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Kallanagh Tellen
Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.05.03 16:45:00 -
[151]
Originally by: The Cosmopolite
Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen Odd, I was picking up cargo there this morning.
Ohhhhhhhhh I'm sorry, I must have broken your immense corp obliterating grasp of the system. Nevermind I'll no doubt see you docked in the vicinity in the near future.
You are not in a state of war with us, your organisation having failed to meet any of its war aims and having retracted in defeat. Challenging us to stop someone in Empire who we are not at war with is completely ridiculous and you know it.
If this is the nonsensical level to which your argument descends when it is pointed out that you are not contesting our presence in Amarr any more, it is no wonder you failed miserably to meet your objectives.
The Cosmopolite
If you are wishing to contest the ownership of Amarr perhaps this would be a matter you should discuss with the Empire, although I am sure that you would have little success.
I believe the matter of objectives has been discussed previously, the laughable nature to which the SF compaign as dropped is a clear signal as to your true level of threat. We stand as ever with the neeed of our allies in PIE, although I am quite sure that their safety is in no great danger.
Your public image in the face of this episode I would gamble is. perhaps when this 'phase' shows any credability then the Vigilia Valeria's stance in the conflict will be reviewed.
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Kallanagh Tellen
Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.05.03 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Sable Schroedinger
Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen Nevermind I'll no doubt see you docked in the vicinity in the near future.
Pretty rich from a man that hasn't even dared appose us in combat.
Archy can't be supplying you well if you're reduced to this in hope of getting a T1 Frigate.
Every man has their place in the great machine, the contributions of the alliances, the corporations and my own play their relative part. Perhaps when your own 'contribution' bring you from under the skirt of CONCORD then we shall discuss the matter further.
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Octavinus Augustus
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.03 16:47:00 -
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A reply to Sable Schroedinger and Jasmine Constantine on my part is in order I assume.
First, let me notice that Ms Constantine fail to reply to the question of wether the objective of simply smearing the reputation of PIE is an official Star Fraction objective or some private objective stemming from a personal vendetta. I guess there is no easy answer to that one.
Originally by: Sable Schroedinger
Originally by: Octavinus Augustus
The Amarr block is perfectly capabale of operating in Amarr whenever we desire. You haven't "pushed" us anywhere
I'm not an adict, I can give up any time I want, I just don't want to is all...
Your reply would carry some weight were it not for the fact that we do operate in Amarr regularly. Will you acknowledge this Mr Schroedinger, or will you join the ranks of those of your allies who falsely claim that we can not?
I sincerely hope that you choose to acknowledge my point Mr Schroedinger - even though we disagree on many points I have never yet known you to speak out against your better knowledge. It would sadden me to see it now.
As for the question of the positions of our bases of operations, I fail to see any discrepancy in my posts. We operate out of bases both in Amarr and Providence - as well as several other places.
If there is some point to your post I have missed Mr Schroedinger, I can only apologize and ask you to reiterate it for my sake. Otherwise I'm afraid it will go unanswered.
Motto: Vae Victis - Woe to the vanquished. |

Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.03 17:38:00 -
[154]
Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 03/05/2007 17:35:06
Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen Odd, I was picking up cargo there this morning. Ohhhhhhhhh I'm sorry, I must have broken your immense corp obliterating grasp of the system. Nevermind I'll no doubt see you docked in the vicinity in the near future.
Haven't your leaders told you? Vigilia Valeria droped the wardec. You are no longer in the war. (as a consequence you can do whatever shopping you like in Amarr)
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.03 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen Every man has their place in the great machine, the contributions of the alliances, the corporations and my own play their relative part.
Unless "your part" is posting on Galnet I can't see how you are achieving much.
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GulletSplitter
Minmatar Colonial Fleet Services
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Posted - 2007.05.03 17:41:00 -
[156]
Thanks for the reply Octavinus Augustus and other PIE folks. I was looking for more of what you guys "take" was on the way the war was moving and it's reasons. I'm surprised at how much came out of the Amarr block over the past 24 hours. So my take from the last few hours of posts is:
1) Come Closer û Is SF to far from the seats of the militiaÆs power? And does Amarr Prime really count when opposing Amarr paramilitaries?
Amarr Take - SF is deemed not important enough cause they should be closer to the Amarr blocks "home". SF Take - That would be suicide because of our size compared to the Amarr Block.
2) A stain upon your honor û Is SF out to sully PIEÆs name or to destroy it as an organization?
Amarr Take - Who cares what the IGS folks think...it's between the Empire, God and ourselves to determine who is honorable. PIE will stay as is regardless. SF Take - We want to show PIE to be honor less "Paper Tigers" and therefore show everyone who will listen that itÆs powerless.
I do have to say IÆve been confused now that we have more ôofficialö SF voices in the fray. Mainly in is it a fight about honor or destruction of PIE? ItÆs probably because IÆm having to skim through the postings instead of fully reading them due to uhàhaving to read through some loading documents. ((OOC: IÆm at work))
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.03 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: Octavinus Augustus First, let me notice that Ms Constantine fail to reply to the question of wether the objective of simply smearing the reputation of PIE is an official Star Fraction objective or some private objective stemming from a personal vendetta. I guess there is no easy answer to that one.
Dear oh Dear. Its not a "smear" if we actively demonstrate you are incapable of meaningful resistence to an enemy presence in your Empire's Capital System - thats a strategic fact. It has always been part of our war-aims (as explained naturally enough in our declaration of war) to reveal that PIE is a worthless and febrile organisation without the courage of its stated convictions and use your bleating as "the goat" to bring others to the slaughter.
But on the wider issue of replies - honestly, if I felt obliged to every aberrant charge or accusation leveled by an amarrian nationalist I'd never have time to actually shoot you. Sometimes individual questions get lost in the general frother. Rodj alone manages to write tens of thousands of words split up into hundreds of quote blocks and twisted illogical shapes - do you honestly think we actually read everything you people write? 
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Kallanagh Tellen
Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.05.03 17:55:00 -
[158]
Originally by: GulletSplitter Thanks for the reply Octavinus Augustus and other PIE folks. I was looking for more of what you guys "take" was on the way the war was moving and it's reasons. I'm surprised at how much came out of the Amarr block over the past 24 hours. So my take from the last few hours of posts is:
1) Come Closer û Is SF to far from the seats of the militiaÆs power? And does Amarr Prime really count when opposing Amarr paramilitaries?
Amarr Take - SF is deemed not important enough cause they should be closer to the Amarr blocks "home". SF Take - That would be suicide because of our size compared to the Amarr Block.
2) A stain upon your honor û Is SF out to sully PIEÆs name or to destroy it as an organization?
Amarr Take - Who cares what the IGS folks think...it's between the Empire, God and ourselves to determine who is honorable. PIE will stay as is regardless. SF Take - We want to show PIE to be honor less "Paper Tigers" and therefore show everyone who will listen that itÆs powerless.
I do have to say IÆve been confused now that we have more ôofficialö SF voices in the fray. Mainly in is it a fight about honor or destruction of PIE? ItÆs probably because IÆm having to skim through the postings instead of fully reading them due to uhàhaving to read through some loading documents. ((OOC: IÆm at work))
I think it is nicely summed up by interests in holovid right and general self importance, somehow I dont believe PIE to be in any substantial risk other than continued aggrivation through communications traffic.
But nevermind, I'm sure if Jasmine and her aids continue to harp on about questionable victories then someone may believe them... maybe.
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.03 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: GulletSplitter Thanks for the reply Octavinus Augustus and other PIE folks. I was looking for more of what you guys "take" was on the way the war was moving and it's reasons. I'm surprised at how much came out of the Amarr block over the past 24 hours. So my take from the last few hours of posts is:
1) Come Closer û Is SF to far from the seats of the militiaÆs power? And does Amarr Prime really count when opposing Amarr paramilitaries?
When it comes to the time that the Amarr Capital System is no longer counted as valid location to confront Amarrian paramilitary organisations then I think we've won a final victory because in all truth and actuality these entities will have severed their own ties with the baseline nationalist governments in the empire and made their own destiny on the frontier.
Ultimately that is the point we are making. We are attacking the link between Empire and Capsule Militia. By breaking that link we choke off the spread of contagion spreading from the old order into the frontier.
Quote: 2) A stain upon your honor û Is SF out to sully PIEÆs name or to destroy it as an organization? Amarr Take - Who cares what the IGS folks think...it's between the Empire, God and ourselves to determine who is honorable. PIE will stay as is regardless. SF Take - We want to show PIE to be honor less "Paper Tigers" and therefore show everyone who will listen that itÆs powerless.
It is impossible to completely destroy a capsule pilot organisation while they retain a single stubborn member prepared to weather any political inclemency and remain docked and galnet posting and operating with false-flagged subordinates in empire space.
It is however very possible to reveal such an organisation to be the "paper tigers" we say they are and demonstrate to the general public that such entities are entirely incapable of fulfilling their own mission-statements let alone opposing the will of independent free captains seeking to demolish the links between the Empire and the Capsule movement.
Quote: I do have to say IÆve been confused now that we have more ôofficialö SF voices in the fray. Mainly in is it a fight about honor or destruction of PIE?
PIE is and has been our "judas goat" - we staked them out in the sunshine and their allies followed them to slaughter. They have been very useful in their role. Ultimately we know we will never silence the like's of Archbishop and his cronies but by eliminating their ability to achieve anything in support of the Empire they claim to revere we prove our point and further the Star Fraction cause.
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Kovid
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.03 18:43:00 -
[160]
Originally by: Archbishop God knows our hearts and knows it is enough.
Another priest presuming to know what god thinks and doing the talking.
Embrace post-humanism. It's much better than making up things as you go along.
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Octavinus Augustus
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.03 18:48:00 -
[161]
Edited by: Octavinus Augustus on 03/05/2007 18:46:28 An answer to GulletSplitter:
First, I must in all honesty point out that I am not an official spokesman on behalf of PIE. I do believe however, that the views I express are shared by my corporation and the Amarr loyalist block in general.
All in all your summation seems to be correct in it's essentials. Let me just make a few comments.
Originally by: GulletSplitter
1) Come Closer û Is SF to far from the seats of the militiaÆs power? And does Amarr Prime really count when opposing Amarr paramilitaries?
Amarr Take - SF is deemed not important enough cause they should be closer to the Amarr blocks "home". SF Take - That would be suicide because of our size compared to the Amarr Block.
To quote the original posts on the Star Fractions strategic objectives: "The fighters of the Star Fraction will wage war against the Amarr Empire's capsuleer lackies the better to oppose the spread of the tyrannical 'order' that is espoused by the Empire and all who support it."
We have merely pointed out that huddling in Amarr does not really serve this purpose. If Star Fraction wish to combat the 'spread of the tyrranical 'order'' the obvious place to do this would be in Providence.
Originally by: GulletSplitter
2) A stain upon your honor û Is SF out to sully PIEÆs name or to destroy it as an organization?
Amarr Take - Who cares what the IGS folks think...it's between the Empire, God and ourselves to determine who is honorable. PIE will stay as is regardless. SF Take - We want to show PIE to be honor less "Paper Tigers" and therefore show everyone who will listen that itÆs powerless.
Again reading the original posts on behalf of Star Fraction, it seems clear to me that they are out to destroy us as a coherent force rather than just smearing our name - that last bit has come solely from Jasmine Constantine I believe.
Even if they wish to show us "powerless" would the way to do that not be to engage us where we could actually get hurt, rather than simply sitting in Amarr waiting for our squads to appear?
Originally by: GulletSplitter
I do have to say IÆve been confused now that we have more ôofficialö SF voices in the fray. Mainly in is it a fight about honor or destruction of PIE?
I think you will find that it is a bot of both, depending on which Star Fraction pilot you ask. The individualist nature of their organisation permits 'independant star captains' to have whatever opinions they want - even if such opinions are in contradiction to official Star Fractionite doctrine. Perhaps this is shown rather well by this statement by Mr Cosmopolite.
I can also state that it is my opinion that most Star Fraction pilots are in fact out to destroy us as a functioning entity rather than merely smearing our good name - most of Star Fractions pilots are way to honorable to stoop to such tactics.
When it comes down to it, I think that the last objective is held only by a minority of one single Star Fraction pilot.
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Tharrn
Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.05.03 20:05:00 -
[162]
Originally by: The Cosmopolite
You are not in a state of war with us, your organisation having failed to meet any of its war aims and having retracted in defeat. Challenging us to stop someone in Empire who we are not at war with is completely ridiculous and you know it.
If this is the nonsensical level to which your argument descends when it is pointed out that you are not contesting our presence in Amarr any more, it is no wonder you failed miserably to meet your objectives.
The Cosmopolite
I answered that on page 3 already - watching you docked up in Emperor Station for hours on end just didn't convince us you are a threat anymore. Sorry, you were probably not docked up but 'had some hours to spend at your leisure'. Calling us defeated in the light of why the war was retracted (and well within the set goals) is quite funny.
At that point in time you posed absolutely no threat as you were pretty much docked up non-stop. As I already pointed out I don't know if that changed as I am currently planetbound.
Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
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The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.03 20:18:00 -
[163]
Originally by: Tharrn
At that point in time you posed absolutely no threat as you were pretty much docked up non-stop. As I already pointed out I don't know if that changed as I am currently planetbound.
We have destroyed Amarrian paramilitary vessels in Amarr and surrounding systems on every day of the war. Indeed, in the seven days preceding your retraction, we destroyed many, many Amarrian vessels across imperial space.
How this amounts to posing 'absolutely no threat' you will no doubt try and explain in the usual convoluted logic of the Amarrian paramilitary.
That won't change the fact that you bowed out of the war with not a single one of your objectives achieved. You can try again but until you do so, you are defeated in terms of your own objectives.
The Cosmopolite
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Kallanagh Tellen
Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.05.03 20:29:00 -
[164]
Edited by: Kallanagh Tellen on 03/05/2007 20:27:39
Originally by: The Cosmopolite
Originally by: Tharrn We have destroyed Amarrian paramilitary vessels in Amarr and surrounding systems on every day of the war. Indeed, in the seven days preceding your retraction, we destroyed many, many Amarrian vessels across imperial space.
How this amounts to posing 'absolutely no threat' you will no doubt try and explain in the usual convoluted logic of the Amarrian paramilitary.
That won't change the fact that you bowed out of the war with not a single one of your objectives achieved. You can try again but until you do so, you are defeated in terms of your own objectives.
The Cosmopolite
Yet PIE remains, you huddle under the safety of CONCORD and your only true presence is as a bleating voice playing to the crowd. No wonder the declaration was not continued. perhaps when you become a serious threat then the Executor shall reconsider, until that day we shall continue to serve our brothers and the Empire.
Edit: Damned layout
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The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.03 20:50:00 -
[165]
Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen
Yet PIE remains, you huddle under the safety of CONCORD and your only true presence is as a bleating voice playing to the crowd. No wonder the declaration was not continued. perhaps when you become a serious threat then the Executor shall reconsider, until that day we shall continue to serve our brothers and the Empire.
We have waived CONCORD protection by entering into formal war with PIE so your talk of that is spurious.
Vigilia Valeria objectives were:
1) See SF retract their war against PIE: not met. 2) See SF retreat from Amarr and its vicinity: not met. 3) See SF cease to be a threat to 'normal trade and shipping': not met.*
You failed to meet any of your objectives. A bitter pill, I am sure, but it remains the case.
The Cosmopolite
* Where said objective is meaningful and 'normal trade and shipping' includes Amarrian loyalist vessels which have continued to be destroyed by us throughout the course of the campaign. If it never included Amarrian loyalist vessels it was, of course, a completely dishonest objective.
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Kallanagh Tellen
Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.05.03 21:06:00 -
[166]
Originally by: The Cosmopolite
We have waived CONCORD protection by entering into formal war with PIE so your talk of that is spurious.
Vigilia Valeria objectives were:
1) See SF retract their war against PIE: not met. 2) See SF retreat from Amarr and its vicinity: not met. 3) See SF cease to be a threat to 'normal trade and shipping': not met.*
You failed to meet any of your objectives. A bitter pill, I am sure, but it remains the case.
The Cosmopolite
* Where said objective is meaningful and 'normal trade and shipping' includes Amarrian loyalist vessels which have continued to be destroyed by us throughout the course of the campaign. If it never included Amarrian loyalist vessels it was, of course, a completely dishonest objective.
The point has already been answered by my superior officer, but let me repeat some of the core repeat:
1) PIE Lives on, even flourishes in the face of the 'adversity' 2) The SF has failed to impact on the activites of either the loyalists to any great degree, essentially bogging itself down to the interior systems 3) The SF fail to carry out an effective presence by avoiding lower security systems.
You have failed to promote yourself as a threat, we have finished with you until the time in which requests our aid (an unlikely prospect considering your current performance).
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Sami Yahn'ko
Gallente The Butterfly Rebellion
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Posted - 2007.05.03 22:07:00 -
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When it comes to the time that the Amarr Capital System is no longer counted as valid location to confront Amarrian paramilitary organizations then I think we've won a final victory because in all truth and actuality these entities will have severed their own ties with the baseline nationalist governments in the empire and made their own destiny on the frontier.
"Final victory" Ms. Constantine? Perhaps here it is just a use of the words to mean a more localized success, but still, no harm and much worthwhile cause in reminding you that "it cannot be". A notion that struck a chord with me long before I took to space, and one I have carried with me and appropriated in my own ways since. I am almost fearing here, that you've momentarily forgotten. I hope the good Doctor chided you, if only slightly. Words such as those, in movements like these, they must be used carefully after all, no?
More importantly, "it cannot be" even if you are talking about that localized hypothetical situation. It is not the case that the stubborn Amarrians will cut any ties whatsoever except the most pragmatic and self-sustaining. In truth, if the Eve Gate contracted tomorrow and collapsed New Eden into a dark age, leaving only PIE alive - we all know what kind of world they would shape, even entirely cut off from the "source" of their meme.
These "people" daily work towards extending the monolith of regression known as the Empire into Providence, all without an Emperor. Their kind would extend it further, without even an Empire itself, let alone an Emperor. If they were capable. Amusingly they're incapable of removing a roster of 80 anarchists from their HQ system, so I really can't emphasize that "if" enough. Nevertheless, if, then. Of this I have no doubt, and I urge you to realize this important truth. Perhaps you already do, and other melodies are playing here so people dance to a different tune. I don't profess or assume to know.
You see I don't think the Empire is the source any more, not for PIE. They have had their fill, and nothing will change for them. I do not think you are capable of "cutting the link" here. No, it is too late to save the likes of PIE and their ilk, and I have my doubts that this is indeed what this war is about.
This is not to repeat the Amarrian dogma that this war is irrelevant, or the cause for which you fight is futile. No, I am trying to illustrate the point that you are in real danger of misunderstanding your enemy, and worse yet, the wars you fight, if you truly believe the likes of PIE can in any significant way, have the link cut from between them and the "source" of the meme that now consumes their minds to the point of an almost embarassing display of their own irrelevance.
I do not think this meme can be purged from PIE. I do not think any link can be truly broken. For PIE, what ties them to their doings now is as unbreakable as the chains that bind slaves to their Vitoc (I hope you like that example, Amarrians, I find it so incredibly apt). I do not think by breaking that link, even if possible, they would make any destiny other than the one their dogma demands they make.
What you can do. What you are doing. What you have done in the past. Is not purging, but punishing. Yes, you may stop a few recruits from joining PIE ranks, more importantly though, you make an example of nationalists, and in doing so, invite reflection, and questioning. I find that myself, to be the crux of your fight. The "paper tiger war" you wage here is not about cures, it is about the prevention that makes them redundant. Inviting a critical, or perhaps even just an initial questioning of previously unchallenged beliefs...I think underneath all of this, that is what you are achieving, rather than severing ties that are so deeply ingrained, they cannot properly be severed.
Perhaps though, I have misunderstood you. I do enjoy such contemplation at times regardless. I hope it's not unwelcome here.
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Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.03 22:27:00 -
[168]
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Why bother when we can blow each others ships to pieces in the Throne World capital Garreck  (nice fight)
Your proposal is acceptable! An embarassing CVA loss in the face of my hours-fresh claim that Star Fraction were not yet excercising strategic control: that engagement was precipitated by completely inaccurate intelligence, a sign of, at the very least, our own lack of strategic control.
I'll see to it that the mistake does not repeat itself.
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The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.04 00:42:00 -
[169]
Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen
You have failed to promote yourself as a threat, we have finished with you until the time in which PIE requests our aid (an unlikely prospect considering your current performance).
Is that so?
* The Cosmopolite chuckles...
Well, we will be sure to bear that in mind.
For the rest, I'm happy to let others look at your stated objectives, determine the facts for themselves, and then make their own minds up as to whether you achieved them or not.
The Cosmopolite
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.04 01:03:00 -
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Quote: Ultimately we know we will never silence the like's of Archbishop and his cronies but by eliminating their ability to achieve anything in support of the Empire they claim to revere we prove our point and further the Star Fraction cause.
Oh I don't know about that... one of those Sani Sabik folks posted something a few posts up asking about any more operations being granted since we escorted Brother Joshua. I guess I'll just say you'll find out about them like you did the last one.
By reading about their success in the news.
Archbishop
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.04 01:11:00 -
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Quote: It is however very possible to reveal such an organisation to be the "paper tigers" we say they are and demonstrate to the general public that such entities are entirely incapable of fulfilling their own mission-statements let alone opposing the will of independent free captains seeking to demolish the links between the Empire and the Capsule movement.
So you are going to "demolish the links between PIE and the Empire". This is your new mission objective? So given this statement you're indicating that the Empire will abandon PIE and never again seek it's assistance because you have "demolished the links".
As I am fairly sure the Empire will continue to approach PIE from time to time for special assignments I could then fairly well assume you've failed this objective as well. If the "links were demolished" after all we'd never help the Empire again right?
Keep trying though maybe you'll come up with an objective you can actually accomplish!
Archbishop
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.04 01:45:00 -
[172]
Originally by: Archbishop As I am fairly sure the Empire will continue to approach PIE from time to time for special assignments
I'm sure the Imperial powers will know where to come if they want Galnet posts making 
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.04 02:21:00 -
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Quote: I'm sure the Imperial powers will know where to come if they want Galnet posts making.
Of course they will just as they did with Brother Joshua and all the other times we've successfully assisted the Empire.
But as you said when the links are demolished and we're not doing anything successful for the Empire you will have your "victory". By that standard then if PIE would complete any mission for the Empire that would likewise indicate you have failed and had been defeated yourself.
I agree with your line of thinking 100% Jasmine thank you for explaining it so clearly.
Archbishop
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.04 02:24:00 -
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Originally by: Archbishop By that standard then if PIE would complete any mission for the Empire that would likewise indicate you have failed and had been defeated yourself.
I think you misunderstand me clergyman. I'm saying that the only mission you could complete for the Empire at the moment is likely to involve composing posts on the Galnet. And with the best will in the world - not even we can stop you doing that.
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.04 03:30:00 -
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Quote: I think you misunderstand me clergyman. I'm saying that the only mission you could complete for the Empire at the moment is likely to involve composing posts on the Galnet. And with the best will in the world - not even we can stop you doing that.
Considering circumstances in PIE today are identical to a few weeks ago when we successfully escorted Brother Joshua I'll happily acknowledge that you aren't able to stop us from doing anything. Thank you for making my point.
Archbishop
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.04 03:35:00 -
[176]
Anyway I've enjoyed our discussion Jasmine it's always nice to interact with the lessor races as it enables me to learn more about their traits and personalities. It helps me plan the eventual Enlightenment of so many different types of people.
But I must retire planetside for a few days so I must leave now. I will make an effort when I return to join the Amarrian bloc fleet in operations. I trust I will see both you and your CEO there at the same time as well. I lost an Armageddon Battleship to your CEO in the previous war and it would be nice to get another shot at her. I have hopes my planetside duties will lighten up enough to give me the opportunity.
Archbishop
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.04 04:00:00 -
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Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 04/05/2007 04:00:53
Originally by: Archbishop Considering circumstances in PIE today are identical to a few weeks ago ...
Not remotely true Archbishop. A few weeks ago the PIE military had the ability to put more than two ships in Throne World space at the same time.
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Sami Yahn'ko
Gallente The Butterfly Rebellion
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Posted - 2007.05.04 05:10:00 -
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Did I hit too close too home, or so far away from it that you found it better to argue with a preacher of slavery and a practitioner of ineptitude?
Other melodies I suppose. Or perhaps Mr. Archbishop and his cronies represent too good an opportunity for further humiliation?
I would have raised the issue elsewhere as I have read in the past that the free captains don't like discussions of that nature in their diaries, but I was reluctant to do that for a number of reasons. I'll take it up elsewhere then I guess. Maybe a more fruitful endeavor.
Maybe my pilots photo just scared you? I promise that it's just some kind of CONCORD incompetence, I really do have a fleshy head like the rest of you...
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Gaius Kador
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.04 07:01:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 04/05/2007 04:00:53
Originally by: Archbishop Considering circumstances in PIE today are identical to a few weeks ago ...
Not remotely true Archbishop. A few weeks ago the PIE military had the ability to put more than two ships in Throne World space at the same time.
I am keeping this to quote, very soon.
Your vanity is astonishing, even for a Gallente wench. ----------------------------------------------
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Sable Schroedinger
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.04 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Gaius Kador
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 04/05/2007 04:00:53
Originally by: Archbishop Considering circumstances in PIE today are identical to a few weeks ago ...
Not remotely true Archbishop. A few weeks ago the PIE military had the ability to put more than two ships in Throne World space at the same time.
I am keeping this to quote, very soon.
Your vanity is astonishing, even for a Gallente wench.
Allow me to fill in the gaps for you, as a busy man might be too busy to do so and with a cliff hanger like that, it seems cruel to leave people waiting.
2 hours after this post where, I think its fair to say our fellow here marked his intension to make Jas eat her words, he brought an Armageddon battleship, flanked by 2 Harbinger battlecruisers to Amarr. Only one of those Harbingers survived the exercise, the other and Amageddon destroyed in short order by a light SF attack wing.
To their credit, however, they did manage to destroy a Thorax and a Vexor (belonging to the same pilot) before they met their fate.
Well done! That truely showed the Gallente Wench! --------------------------------------------
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