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Archbishop
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.03 13:49:00 -
[121]
 Quote:
Originally by: Rodj Blake
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At last, some refreshing honesty from the factionistas over their war aims.
I'll be sure to quote this again in six months when PIE is still around.
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Originally by: The Cosmopolite
Quote it all you like but remember to quote it as the opinion of one Freecaptain and not as an official communication of the Star Fraction. I could pick and choose what I would wish the war aims of a number of entities involved in the conflict to be by looking at individual comments. I'm not about to do so. I look at official statements of declaration and that's good enough for me.
Well given he admits he doesn't post much on IGS I'll assume its an official position as what else could inspire someone to break their silence. Likewise given your recent wars against KD and CYI it's pretty clear what your objectives are anyway.
Enjoy the scenery in Amarr.... and I look forward to sending you a one year anniversary cake.
Archbishop
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.03 13:51:00 -
[122]
Originally by: The Cosmopolite
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Or could it be that -VV- decided that SF wasn't such a threat after all? SF are not currently threatening normal trade and traffic (and they never were, unless you count blocking the docking the bay as a threat to trade) in Amarr, so that criterion for withdrawing the declaration appears to have been met.
Are you saying that that criterion was always a meaningless one that could be considered to be met at any time?
I'm not saying that is what you are saying but I'd like to know.
The key to it is what -VV- define as 'normal trade and traffic'. We took their initial war declaration at face value and as they are loyalist paramilitaries considered that they would regard any threat posed by us to Amarrian loyalist shipping would have to be removed for that criterion to have been met.
Now, I am quite prepared to accept, if I am told it is so, that the -VV- criterion referred to non-loyalist paramilitary trade and shipping.
The problem with that, is that it has absolutely nothing to do with the Star Fraction as we have never sought to threaten non-loyalist paramilitary trade and shipping. It would be like us inserting into our war aims a criterion such as 'or until PIE cease to threaten normal trade and shipping in Rens/Jita/<insert trade hub of choice>'. I know exactly what the loyalist bloc would have made of such a war aim.
So, let us have clarity. Did the 'normal trade and shipping' include Amarrian loyalist paramilitary vessels or not?
If it did, the -VV- evaluation is simply wrong (SF have destroyed Amarrian loyalist vessels in Amarr and surrounding systems on every day of the war thus far).
If it did not, that clause of the -VV- war aims was a nonsense and all the chest-beating by a certain -VV- member as to meaningful war aims is shown to be utter hypocrisy.
The Cosmopolite
You'll have to ask a -VV- representative for a more concise definition of their policy, but I will say that even loyalist vessels in the Throne Worlds are pretty safe.
As for dodgy war aims, let's not get into a discussion on the SF's war aims.
Operation Judas Goat - get the CVA to declare on SF.
Operation Slaughterhouse - get the CVA to retract its war.
Just think, all of that effort just to get back to square one.
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Octavinus Augustus
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.03 14:02:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Octavinus Augustus
We need to "shut up" Star Fraction you say. That is simply impossible, I'm afraid. IGS is a free forum and people can post whatever they want, truthful or not. Star Fraction publishes their diaries and their views on the current war. Each time they celebrate their own skill and deride the abilities and motivations of their enemies. What can we do except reply with our version of the story? So the "publicity war" is pretty set.
Fight and win. That will "shut us up". A couple of years ago the Star Fraction attacked the CVA and fought a furious six week engagement with pretty even casualties and much slaughter and mayhem on both sides. In the end we couldn't gain decisive superiority in space and retracted the war and admitted defeat. If you achieve the same results today the same thing will happen - we will have the honesty to admit a lost campaign when it happens.
Our integrity and honour in these matters is unquestioned by anyone with a name or reputation to speak of. Don't fall so quickly into the negative dead-ends of your comrades who suggest that "fighting forever" and never admitting a loss in the face of overwhelming evidence is something that the SF consider an admirable trait.
If we lose a war you'll know it.
(and so will everyone on Galnet)
First of all, I assume that this post can only be construed as your personal opinion Jasmine. As Star Fraction has clearly stated in it's orirginal declaration of intent concerning this war:
"The fighters of the Star Fraction will wage war against the Amarr Empire's capsuleer lackies the better to oppose the spread of the tyrannical 'order' that is espoused by the Empire and all who support it."
According to Star Fractions original postings on the topic, your alliance has stated that it's strategic objectives is to threaten our very existence or at least our capacity to function as a coherent entity. You personally seem content to "hurt our pride".
But let's ignore that fact for now.
If you're in this war to hurt our pride, you have chosen a poor way of doing so. In order to truly hurt our pride you will have to either deal a blow to the Empire we are unable to deflect or otherwise deny us the capacity to carry out operations to further our strategic objectives. By sitting still in Amarr you are accomplishing neither.
Our pride is tied up in a lot more than the ability to win or lose one, two or ten engagements of little or no strategic consequence.
Look at the ability of Archbishop to continue his sermons, look at how we help CVA contain the pirates in Providence, look at our success in the matter of escorting Brother Joshua around Empire, look at the countless day to day operations of the Amarr block.
If you wish to "hurt our pride" you need to look to those things. You achieve nothing by sitting in Amarr making bold claims based on little reality.
If you wish to hurt our pride you will have to undertake actions that are a blow to us rather than merely actions that you would consider a blow to yourself had the situation been reversed.
If you wish simply to have a lot of enemies to shoot at however, I think your decision to stay in Amarr is a wise one. We can and will seek you out whenever we wish to do so. You will have targets to shoot at, but strategically you will achieve nothing.
Motto: Vae Victis - Woe to the vanquished. |
Jasmine Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.03 14:12:00 -
[124]
Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 03/05/2007 14:09:42
double post
Star Fraction is recruiting
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The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.03 14:13:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Archbishop
Well given he admits he doesn't post much on IGS I'll assume its an official position as what else could inspire someone to break their silence. Likewise given your recent wars against KD and CYI it's pretty clear what your objectives are anyway.
Enjoy the scenery in Amarr.... and I look forward to sending you a one year anniversary cake.
Archbishop
It's not an official position. We're not setting any firm timeline.
The Cosmopolite
The Star Fraction Communications Portal |
Jasmine Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.03 14:13:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Rodj Blake
That's quite a statement coming from someone with such a reputation for verbosity and underachievement.
Originally by: Rodj Blake
]As for a duel between the two of us, I fail to see what the pointless destruction of your vessel would achieve in the wider strategic sense, and anyway, why should I treat someone beneath contempt as my equal?
I trust you see the irony of these two statements. As a war-diarist I am entirely happy to engage you in a duel of honour whereas you run and hide beneath your mothers bed.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.03 14:26:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Rodj Blake
That's quite a statement coming from someone with such a reputation for verbosity and underachievement.
Originally by: Rodj Blake
]As for a duel between the two of us, I fail to see what the pointless destruction of your vessel would achieve in the wider strategic sense, and anyway, why should I treat someone beneath contempt as my equal?
I trust you see the irony of these two statements. As a war-diarist I am entirely happy to engage you in a duel of honour whereas you run and hide beneath your mothers bed.
The thing is, duels are often seen as matters of personal honour. As a member of Star Faction, you have shown yourself to be without honour.
Now, perhaps you will stop trying to derail your own thread with your pointless challenges and get to the matter in hand - the events of the last two weeks.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Casserina Leshrac
Amarr
Bloodveil
The Sani Sabik
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Posted - 2007.05.03 14:29:00 -
[128]
This goes to my comments about the paramilitaries abandoning Amarr.
So far from the Loyalist side we have heard the following excuses:
1. It a corp vs corp war so the Empire will not get involved.
2. We're not going to fight the Star Fraction because they are not that important.
3. We're supporting those who are fighting by providing critical materials to our allies.
4. Amarr is not a "strategically" important target.
And yet a small professional force is still able to hold Amarr, away from the paramilitaries who have sworn to expand and defend the Empire as a mandate from God.
Really this doesn't say a lot about the paramilitaries ability to follow through.
Casserina
Sani Sabik Illuminati
From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos. |
Jasmine Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.03 14:31:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Octavinus Augustus
If you wish to hurt our pride you will have to undertake actions that are a blow to us rather than merely actions that you would consider a blow to yourself had the situation been reversed.
Its very simple Octavinus. Before this war the general public found PIE to be a credible and capable Amarrian loyalist force with a long history of defending the Empire's interests. After this war the same general public will have received a lesson in just what a stuffed-shirt paper tiger this organisation truly is. Sure Archbishop will continue his sermons and boasting about ship production but the results of this campaign will remain on record and we'll have made a lasting impact on your reputation and legend.
We've shown you can't oppose us in the capital of the Throne Worlds and pushed you back to the hinterlands. Colour that as you like but its quite a significant victory.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.03 14:37:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Casserina Leshrac
This goes to my comments about the paramilitaries abandoning Amarr.
We haven't abandoned Amarr.
Quote:
So far from the Loyalist side we have heard the following excuses:
1. It a corp vs corp war so the Empire will not get involved.
The SF are not a threat to the Empire, so the Empire will not get involved.
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2. We're not going to fight the Star Fraction because they are not that important.
Almost correct.
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3. We're supporting those who are fighting by providing critical materials to our allies.
True friends always support each other. False friends allow their "military wings" to attack each other.
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4. Amarr is not a "strategically" important target.
Amarr's strategic importance depends upon the context. Clearly, anyone wanting to hurt the Empire and with the ability to capture Amarr would be advised to do so as it's an important administrative system with spiritual importance. However, since the factionistas are at best an annoyance their strategy to base themselves in Amarr seems odd.
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And yet a small professional force is still able to hold Amarr, away from the paramilitaries who have sworn to expand and defend the Empire as a mandate from God.
The only people holding the Amarr system are the Amarrian people and their government.
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Really this doesn't say a lot about the paramilitaries ability to follow through.
Rather than questioning our ability to follow through, you should be asking why we would feel the need to defend Amarr from someone who is not a threat.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Sable Schroedinger
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.03 14:41:00 -
[131]
Hey Tommy!
You make a great sheep, but a rotten goat...
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Natasha Donnan
Caldari
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
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Posted - 2007.05.03 14:46:00 -
[132]
Edited by: Natasha Donnan on 03/05/2007 14:43:28
Edited by: Natasha Donnan on 03/05/2007 14:43:06
Originally by: Rodj Blake
The SF are not a threat to the Empire, so the Empire will not get involved.
Lets turn this around slightly and see what we see.
By your own admission the Paramilitaries are not of any significance to the Empire and so the Empire will continue to refuse to defend them even when they are being butchered in the home world...
Amusing isn't it?
What was that commetn about friends again?
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Kallanagh Tellen
Amarr
Epitoth Fleetyards
Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.05.03 14:49:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Natasha Donnan
Edited by: Natasha Donnan on 03/05/2007 14:43:06
Originally by: Rodj Blake
The SF are not a threat to the Empire, so the Empire will not get involved.
Lets turn this around slightly and see what we see.
By your own admission the Paramilitaries are not of any significance to the Empire and and so the Empire will continue to refuse to defend them even when they are being butchered in the home world...
Amusing isn't it?
What was that commetn about friends again?
A matter of beaurocracy at the hands of CONCORD, not that such things matter. PIE and her allies will deal with the matter as necessary, unless the Fractionists are foolish enough to take on the might of the Imperial Navy itself.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.03 14:51:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Natasha Donnan
Edited by: Natasha Donnan on 03/05/2007 14:43:28
Edited by: Natasha Donnan on 03/05/2007 14:43:06
Originally by: Rodj Blake
The SF are not a threat to the Empire, so the Empire will not get involved.
Lets turn this around slightly and see what we see.
By your own admission the Paramilitaries are not of any significance to the Empire and so the Empire will continue to refuse to defend them even when they are being butchered in the home world...
Amusing isn't it?
What was that commetn about friends again?
Who said anything about us getting butchered?
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.03 14:52:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Archbishop
Still given our far smaller size to the Star Fraction at the start of this war in terms of non-planetbound pilots it's clear why you picked PIE as a target. You continue to follow your "trend" of attacking corporations you view as "paper tigers" to gain quick IGS forum war victories over. After failing for so many years in 0.0 to accomplish anything save garnering the distain people generally feel for you I can understand why you fled to Empire and now attack those you view you can gain "fast wins" over. Still you will find that PIE has been around a long time and will continue to be. I'm sure at some point you'll claim "victory" when we have many planetbound pilots and thats fine. Star Fraction is Star Fraction after all. It's kind of a trend.
I'm sorry to say that your conception of our targetting strategy is false. We have consistently selected targets we felt were capable and a serious threat to our future.
At the start of this war PIE had numbers, plus or minus a couple, on a par with the Star Fraction and we had absolutely no reason to suppose that the majority of your pilots were 'planetbound'. I can tell you that some of ours were planetbound and that some of our pilots only operate at the logistical level. We assumed a broadly similar spread would be so in PIE.
Did we have a misconception of PIE when we started? Well, we considered that PIE was a capable military force and that any war against it would advance our cause while testing us in the advancement of that cause. We anticipated your allies would become involved but we really did make the assessment that PIE itself would be capable of posing a serious threat to our operations in and of itself.
Now you tell us that PIE was not capable of doing so.
I really did not anticipate that a vice-admiral and director of PIE would come onto GalNet and say the things you have said.
Regardless of that, we claim victory when it is meaningful to do so. We admit defeat when it is necessary. Others in the nationalist paramilitary coalition acknowledge this. All your blather simply fools yourself and nobody else.
The Cosmopolite
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.03 14:55:00 -
[136]
Originally by: The Cosmopolite
Originally by: Archbishop
Still given our far smaller size to the Star Fraction at the start of this war in terms of non-planetbound pilots it's clear why you picked PIE as a target. You continue to follow your "trend" of attacking corporations you view as "paper tigers" to gain quick IGS forum war victories over. After failing for so many years in 0.0 to accomplish anything save garnering the distain people generally feel for you I can understand why you fled to Empire and now attack those you view you can gain "fast wins" over. Still you will find that PIE has been around a long time and will continue to be. I'm sure at some point you'll claim "victory" when we have many planetbound pilots and thats fine. Star Fraction is Star Fraction after all. It's kind of a trend.
I'm sorry to say that your conception of our targetting strategy is false. We have consistently selected targets we felt were capable and a serious threat to our future.
At the start of this war PIE had numbers, plus or minus a couple, on a par with the Star Fraction and we had absolutely no reason to suppose that the majority of your pilots were 'planetbound'. I can tell you that some of ours were planetbound and that some of our pilots only operate at the logistical level. We assumed a broadly similar spread would be so in PIE.
Did we have a misconception of PIE when we started? Well, we considered that PIE was a capable military force and that any war against it would advance our cause while testing us in the advancement of that cause. We anticipated your allies would become involved but we really did make the assessment that PIE itself would be capable of posing a serious threat to our operations in and of itself.
Now you tell us that PIE was not capable of doing so.
I really did not anticipate that a vice-admiral and director of PIE would come onto GalNet and say the things you have said.
Regardless of that, we claim victory when it is meaningful to do so. We admit defeat when it is necessary. Others in the nationalist paramilitary coalition acknowledge this. All your blather simply fools yourself and nobody else.
The Cosmopolite
Really Cosmopolite, after all of your past comments about people putting words in other people's mouths, I expected better from you.
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Octavinus Augustus
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.03 14:59:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Its very simple Octavinus. Before this war the general public found PIE to be a credible and capable Amarrian loyalist force with a long history of defending the Empire's interests. After this war the same general public will have received a lesson in just what a stuffed-shirt paper tiger this organisation truly is. Sure Archbishop will continue his sermons and boasting about ship production but the results of this campaign will remain on record and we'll have made a lasting impact on your reputation and legend.
So now you're not even in this to hurt our pride but rather to smear our reputation? Is that an official Star Fraction position or merely a consequence of your own private vendetta?
You've posted it yourself in this very post above, PIE has a "long history of defending the Empire's interests". The Empire allows you to use it's facilities in the Throne worlds. How would it look if the defenders of the empire then tried to overrule that decision? Your presence in the Throne worlds are of no real concern to us.
Our reputation has been earned through years of service to the Empire. We still serve the Empire. We shall continue to serve the Empire.
Our reputation will remain intact, regardless of your actions or your presence in Amarr.
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
We've shown you can't oppose us in the capital of the Throne Worlds and pushed you back to the hinterlands.
Rule number one when doing propaganda is making what appear to be feasible claims Jasmine. This is just ridiculous.
The Amarr block is perfectly capabale of operating in Amarr whenever we desire. You haven't "pushed" us anywhere - while we frequently come to Amarr in our operations, our main forces were located in Providence before this war, they're located in Providence during this war and they'll be located in Providence after this war.
But you're right in one thing - it is very simple. Star Fraction has made a gross miscalculation when deciding to base yourselves in Amarr prior to this war. You must have imagined that we loyalists would throw ourselves at you piecemeal and in disarray. Instead you find yourselves up against an enemy on whom you have no real impact. Thus your all to evident frustration.
Now, your own pride makes it impossible for you to admit to your mistake.
We shall see each other in space. When we come looking for you - until then enjoy the view from Emp Station in Amarr.
Motto: Vae Victis - Woe to the vanquished. |
Casserina Leshrac
Amarr
Bloodveil
The Sani Sabik
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Posted - 2007.05.03 15:01:00 -
[138]
Rodj, I am thinking that you are missing the point here. A couple of weeks ago the Star Fraction attempted to capture or divert Brother Joshua of the Theology Council from his assigned duties.
PIE was on hand providing cover so that the Speaker of the Truth could finish his mission.
The strike was against an obvious agent of the Empire. And PIE was working as with the said agent and therefore can be considered an agency of the Empire.
While the mission was a success for PIE and the Theology Council. This operation really wasn't about a corp volunteering its services to assisting a government agency. It was a corp empowered as a government entity to fulfill a specific duty.
I am wondering if you have recieved any more "government contracts" since the last incident involving Brother Joshua?
My belief is that you haven't since you left Amarr to the Star Fraction.
Casserina
Sani Sabik Illuminati
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The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.03 15:02:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Really Cosmopolite, after all of your past comments about people putting words in other people's mouths, I expected better from you.
What words have I put in Archbishop's mouth?
He has said that PIE had so many pilots 'planetbound' that the organisation was 'far smaller' than us in terms of the ability to project power in space.
That is simply saying that PIE itself was not capable of posing a threat to us, which is indeed contrary to our assessment before declaring war.
If he was seeking to make some other point, please tell me what it is and I will happily change my interpretation.
The Cosmopolite
The Star Fraction Communications Portal |
Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.03 15:04:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Casserina Leshrac
I am wondering if you have recieved any more "government contracts" since the last incident involving Brother Joshua?
My belief is that you haven't since you left Amarr to the Star Fraction.
You may believe what you like, even if those beliefs are false.
And we haven't left Amarr to the Star Fraction.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Kallanagh Tellen
Amarr
Epitoth Fleetyards
Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.05.03 15:16:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Casserina Leshrac
I am wondering if you have recieved any more "government contracts" since the last incident involving Brother Joshua?
My belief is that you haven't since you left Amarr to the Star Fraction.
You may believe what you like, even if those beliefs are false.
And we haven't left Amarr to the Star Fraction.
Careful Rodj, I think she's after your job.
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Sable Schroedinger
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.03 15:36:00 -
[142]
Originally by: Octavinus Augustus
The Amarr block is perfectly capabale of operating in Amarr whenever we desire. You haven't "pushed" us anywhere
I'm not an adict, I can give up any time I want, I just don't want to is all...
Originally by: Octavinus Augustus
while we frequently come to Amarr in our operations, our main forces were located in Providence before this war, they're located in Providence during this war and they'll be located in Providence after this war.
Hmmm that rings a bell...
Originally by: Octavinus Augustus
Let me state this clearly:
Before this war PIE and her allies have used Amarr and surrounding systems as a base of operations.
During this war PIE and her allies will use Amarr and surrounding systems as a base of operations.
After this war PIE and her allies will use Amarr and surrounding systems as a base of operations.
Octavinus Augustus response to SF War Dec
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.03 15:51:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Sable Schroedinger
Originally by: Octavinus Augustus
The Amarr block is perfectly capabale of operating in Amarr whenever we desire. You haven't "pushed" us anywhere
I'm not an adict, I can give up any time I want, I just don't want to is all...
Originally by: Octavinus Augustus
while we frequently come to Amarr in our operations, our main forces were located in Providence before this war, they're located in Providence during this war and they'll be located in Providence after this war.
Hmmm that rings a bell...
Originally by: Octavinus Augustus
Let me state this clearly:
Before this war PIE and her allies have used Amarr and surrounding systems as a base of operations.
During this war PIE and her allies will use Amarr and surrounding systems as a base of operations.
After this war PIE and her allies will use Amarr and surrounding systems as a base of operations.
Octavinus Augustus response to SF War Dec
Sharper readers will have noticed that those two statements are not mutually exclusive.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Jasmine Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.03 15:54:00 -
[144]
Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 03/05/2007 15:50:26
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Sable Schroedinger
Originally by: Octavinus Augustus
The Amarr block is perfectly capabale of operating in Amarr whenever we desire. You haven't "pushed" us anywhere
I'm not an adict, I can give up any time I want, I just don't want to is all...
Originally by: Octavinus Augustus
while we frequently come to Amarr in our operations, our main forces were located in Providence before this war, they're located in Providence during this war and they'll be located in Providence after this war.
Hmmm that rings a bell...
Originally by: Octavinus Augustus
Let me state this clearly:
Before this war PIE and her allies have used Amarr and surrounding systems as a base of operations.
During this war PIE and her allies will use Amarr and surrounding systems as a base of operations.
After this war PIE and her allies will use Amarr and surrounding systems as a base of operations.
Octavinus Augustus response to SF War Dec
Sharper readers will have noticed that those two statements are not mutually exclusive.
Only if your "base of operations" is a mid point safe for a covert ops frigate every couple of days...
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Kallanagh Tellen
Amarr
Epitoth Fleetyards
Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.05.03 16:04:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Only if your "base of operations" is a mid point safe for a covert ops frigate every couple of days...
Conjecture, stick to the facts please.
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.03 16:26:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Only if your "base of operations" is a mid point safe for a covert ops frigate every couple of days...
Conjecture, stick to the facts please.
I am in Amarr contesting the war in space and you aren't. Which of our opinions on current military deployment is more likely to be pure conjecture I wonder?
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Kallanagh Tellen
Amarr
Epitoth Fleetyards
Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.05.03 16:30:00 -
[147]
Odd, I was picking up cargo there this morning.
Ohhhhhhhhh I'm sorry, I must have broken your immense corp obliterating grasp of the system. Nevermind I'll no doubt see you docked in the vicinity in the near future.
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Sable Schroedinger
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.03 16:32:00 -
[148]
Very true Rodjy boy, which is why I included the link so that the reader can read a it all in context. At which point, your attempts at spin show you to be clutching at straws.
I'm going to leave the rest to the reader, I'm sure they'll be happier making up their own minds 
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Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.03 16:36:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen
Odd, I was picking up cargo there this morning.
Ohhhhhhhhh I'm sorry, I must have broken your immense corp obliterating grasp of the system. Nevermind I'll no doubt see you docked in the vicinity in the near future.
You are not in a state of war with us, your organisation having failed to meet any of its war aims and having retracted in defeat. Challenging us to stop someone in Empire who we are not at war with is completely ridiculous and you know it.
If this is the nonsensical level to which your argument descends when it is pointed out that you are not contesting our presence in Amarr any more, it is no wonder you failed miserably to meet your objectives.
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Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen
Nevermind I'll no doubt see you docked in the vicinity in the near future.
Pretty rich from a man that hasn't even dared appose us in combat.
Archy can't be supplying you well if you're reduced to this in hope of getting a T1 Frigate.
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