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Razor Jaxx Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.05.04 16:13:00 - [211] They recruit fighters. Maybe you should try it someday, admiral.
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.05.04 16:23:00 - [212] Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri I see that the Star Fraction recruitment standards have reached a new low. I find that highly offensive. I always understood that I represented the lowest of the low, destined as I am for that Circle of Molok's Pit reserved for apostates and heretics. * The Cosmopolite chuckles... The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Gaius Kador PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.04 16:27:00 - [213] I've yet to use said saved quote. Patience is a virtue. Salutations to Star Fraction for the engagement in Amarr earlier today, however, you are still vain beyond compare if that is what you think I implied. Given the chance, I have been leading small squads against the Star Fraction at every opportunity. ----------------------------------------------
Kallanagh Tellen Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.05.04 16:28:00 - [214] Originally by: The Cosmopolite I find that highly offensive. I always understood that I represented the lowest of the low, destined as I am for that Circle of Molok's Pit reserved for apostates and heretics. * The Cosmopolite chuckles... Well it's always nice to have a goal grins Serve the Emperor Above all Others
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.05.04 16:40:00 - [215] Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri We are still fully capable of useing our HQ as a base of operations and we will remain capable of this despite your best efforts. Is that an actual base of operations or an Archbishop style ceremonial only base? Star Fraction is recruiting
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.04 17:36:00 - [216] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri We are still fully capable of useing our HQ as a base of operations and we will remain capable of this despite your best efforts. Is that an actual base of operations or an Archbishop style ceremonial only base? Why do you find the concept of a decentralised deployment model so hard to comprehend? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Jonny Damordred Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.05.04 17:44:00 - [217] Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri I do think as we were the ones who chose to start that little engagement, which due to a mistake on our part in the opening manuevers went to the Deciever, and as we had complete operational freedom throughout the engagement, it is rather odd for you to try and spin it as if you were somehow controlling the system. Translation: The pilots lost their ships because they wanted to... Yah, thats the ticket! Cheers, Jonny D. -----
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.05.04 18:18:00 - [218] Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri We are still fully capable of useing our HQ as a base of operations and we will remain capable of this despite your best efforts. Is that an actual base of operations or an Archbishop style ceremonial only base? Why do you find the concept of a decentralised deployment model so hard to comprehend? Decentralized deployment is easy to understand. Guerrilla warfare is also easy. However, a lack of centralized command and control (or in PIE's case non-existent) now that's a concept that I haven't heard of before. Again you are making excuses for your corp's short comings. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminati From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Sable Schroedinger Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.05.04 18:30:00 - [219] Edited by: Sable Schroedinger on 04/05/2007 18:26:34 I think it very clear from your corps statements during the war dec thread that your heartland is in Amarr. You're just making excuses to cover your retreat now. You tell us that lying is a sin, but I think you've found sinning before god far more preferable than letting go of your pride. Oh Rodj, how art thou fallen... -------------------------------------------- Join Now
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.04 19:24:00 - [220] Originally by: Sable Schroedinger Edited by: Sable Schroedinger on 04/05/2007 18:26:34 I think it very clear from your corps statements during the war dec thread that your heartland is in Amarr. You're just making excuses to cover your retreat now. You tell us that lying is a sin, but I think you've found sinning before god far more preferable than letting go of your pride. Oh Rodj, how art thou fallen... Nope, when we move away from Amarr, we do so with good reason. When we we move into Amarr, again we have a good reason. When we have no active ops, our pilots are free to attend to their own business. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.05.04 19:44:00 - [221] Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Sable Schroedinger Edited by: Sable Schroedinger on 04/05/2007 18:26:34 I think it very clear from your corps statements during the war dec thread that your heartland is in Amarr. You're just making excuses to cover your retreat now. You tell us that lying is a sin, but I think you've found sinning before god far more preferable than letting go of your pride. Oh Rodj, how art thou fallen... Nope, when we move away from Amarr, we do so with good reason. This still sounds a lot like spin that the Sani Sabik have been accused of in the past. You will say anything just to keep PIE looking good in the eyes of the rest of the pilots on IGS. Perhaps you would like to elaborate? When we we move into Amarr, again we have a good reason. When we have no active ops, our pilots are free to attend to their own business. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminati From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.04 19:59:00 - [222] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri We are still fully capable of useing our HQ as a base of operations and we will remain capable of this despite your best efforts. Is that an actual base of operations or an Archbishop style ceremonial only base? Considering that I was outfitting new ships and manuevering around the base throughout the night, It was no different than any other PIE base and no different than any normal night in Amarr. I happen to base my ships there because you heathens seem to congregate around that station no matter what flag you fly under. And Johnny, a decision to engage that goes south is hardly choseing to die. The simple fact is that the three of us opened that engagement while your pilots reacted, and win or lose that implies that we could manuever wherever we chose. That the engagement went to the Deciever was due to a fairly simple miscalculation on our part. But until that decision to engage we had full operational freedom of movement, perhaps best evidenced by the fact that right before the fight my Harbinger was able to dock, load up a new set of drones, undock and leave the station entirely unscathed. In fact, your pilots didnt even bother trying to intercept. Hardly what I would call denying Amarr to us. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.04 20:10:00 - [223] Originally by: Razor Jaxx They recruit fighters. Maybe you should try it someday, admiral. Your words dishonor the memory of the crew your allies lost fighting last night. They died in for a false cause, and will suffer the consequences of that, but you should at least show the decency common even to heathens of respect for your own dead, as is you just make clear exactly how much of a pathetic honorless cur you really are. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Tareen Kashaar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.05.04 20:19:00 - [224] Edited by: Tareen Kashaar on 04/05/2007 20:15:32 Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri They died in for a false cause, and will suffer the consequences of that, but you should at least show the decency common even to heathens of respect for your own dead, as is you just make clear exactly how much of a pathetic honorless cur you really are. They knew the risks, and they get great life insurance. And dying for a false cause? I think you're mistaking our crews for your own. --- WTS: Forum Signatures, 30mil a piece. Evemail me!
Namingway Important Yet Underrated Video Game Characters	Posted - 2007.05.05 00:28:00 - [225] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Get your story straight! Originally by: Octavinus Augustus Let me state this clearly: Before this war PIE and her allies have used Amarr and surrounding systems as a base of operations. Octavinus Augustus response to SF War Dec Note he says (repeatedly) "Base of Operations" not "ceremonial headquarters" there is quite a difference and your spinning is a little bit obvious at this point. I hate to be the wet blanket on your propaganda para, but you seem to be focusing more on the word Amarr, and less on and surrounding systems. Now your group claims to be intelligent, and the work some of you have done for agents of the empires you claim to hate can most likely give you the location of your enemies' staging points. You think that Amarr is their main system of operation, you're ignoring that he said it's part of the collection of systems they operate in. I' would imagine that you're smart enough to realize that you're incorrectly placing an empasis on the wrong part of what Octavinus said. You're acting as if Amarr is home to their main base of operation, simply because it's the main system in the Amarr Empire. But think about it, what paramilitary organization actually uses their empire's capital system for a staging point? KD were nowhere near it, I don't recall the last time I've seen CYI activity in Luminaire, and to be fair, I've never paid attention to the minmatar groups, but they seem to be more active in lowsec, or providence.
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.05 00:37:00 - [226] Just to clarify something as Jasmine seems confused. BASE OF OPERATIONS The headquarters facility of PIE Incorporated where our administrative staff live and work, support officers work to administer the various licenses and such our operations require, slave markets are kept, where we maintain our ceremonial headquarters, where we meet on occasion for rallies and other events to serve the Empire as needed. OPERATIONAL BASE The bases we actually operate out of on a daily basis in conducting the business that we do, locations with corporate hangars containing combat ships, blueprints, production facilities, cloning facilities, mechanical shops for warships, supplies and ammunition and most personal items owned by the pilots. Just to make it easier to understand though as the mighty Star Fraction shipped items into Emperor station under Concord protection before the war (calling it "Logistics") I will ask them... did you see PIE fleets roaming around Amarr constantly? Or did you see occasional PIE pilots moving in and our and through the capital system? As you've already commented in your initial war declaration that we were no where to be found when you moved in it would seem to be the later of the two options above. Likewise even currently PIE officers like Admiral Lok'ri and myself operate in Amarr, dock at Emperor at will, move about the capital as we see fit, nothing has changed. In the three plus years I've been a PIE officer I've never gone anywhere without the risk of attack and destruction thus whatever it is you're doing is simply the status quo for us. I hope this clears it up for you. Archbishop PIE WEBSITE ARCHBISHOP'S BLOG
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.05 01:10:00 - [227] Originally by: Jonny Damordred Translation: The pilots lost their ships because they wanted to... Yah, thats the ticket! Well, it certainly shoots holes in the Star Fraction theory that PIE or the Paramilitaries won't engage for sheer pride and honor, at any rate.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.05.05 13:39:00 - [228] Originally by: Garreck Originally by: Jonny Damordred Translation: The pilots lost their ships because they wanted to... Yah, thats the ticket! Well, it certainly shoots holes in the Star Fraction theory that PIE or the Paramilitaries won't engage for sheer pride and honor, at any rate. I think he was being sarcastic you know ... Star Fraction is recruiting
Sun Win Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2007.05.06 02:48:00 - [229] Originally by: Archbishop Just to clarify something as Jasmine seems confused. BASE OF OPERATIONS is different from Quote: OPERATIONAL BASE Now Quafe is all over my coms device! Amarrian manoeuvres must be a nightmare. "Warp to the Rally Point!" ... ... "Where is everyone?" "I'm at the Rally Point!" "Err, I think I went to the Point of Rallying..." "Oh lord save me, I've warped to the Rally Location!" New to Eve? Learn to Fly - join channel: "Eve University" or read here
Jonny Damordred Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.05.06 03:18:00 - [230] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Garreck Originally by: Jonny Damordred Translation: The pilots lost their ships because they wanted to... Yah, thats the ticket! Well, it certainly shoots holes in the Star Fraction theory that PIE or the Paramilitaries won't engage for sheer pride and honor, at any rate. I think he was being sarcastic you know ... Ding! Ding! Ding! Tell her what she has won Cosmo! Cheers, Jonny D. -----
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.05.07 14:16:00 - [231] Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 07/05/2007 14:15:15 Originally by: Sun Win Originally by: Archbishop Just to clarify something as Jasmine seems confused. BASE OF OPERATIONS is different from Quote: OPERATIONAL BASE Now Quafe is all over my coms device! Amarrian manoeuvres must be a nightmare. "Warp to the Rally Point!" ... ... "Where is everyone?" "I'm at the Rally Point!" "Err, I think I went to the Point of Rallying..." "Oh lord save me, I've warped to the Rally Location!" Got to admit I was smiling with this ... imagine an archbishop led war-fleet (I know I know very unlikely but hey its a hypothetical ) "Warp to the Ashab gate and engage Primary Target!" "Firing Prelate!" "Burning the heretic!" "All lasers on the scum my lord!" "Wait wait why are you engaging the Target of Primaries?" "Your pardon pontif is there a difference?" "Of course you fool. The Primary Target is my personal administrative designation for the chief recepticle of gods divine rage whereas the Target of Primaries is the practical reflection of gods disfavour in mundane space!" "Ummm, yes thats clear now oh great spiritual autocrat!" "Then why is sub commander double ensign Kador scrambling the Ashab gate billboard?" Star Fraction is recruiting
Tomahawk Bliss The Aegis Militia Aegis Militia	Posted - 2007.05.07 14:41:00 - [232] grasping at straws i see, feeling a bit left out and forgotten? If you can't cut it in the badlands, don't complain when you don't matter. Now I believe there are some nice small empire bases pro-republic groups you could go shoot at, and you wouldn't even have to base outside of high sec to do it...of course I wouldn't suggest Pator as a staging area mind (just a suggestion). Gogo Yubari> You can't destroy your enemy with the power of thought alone like many forum-warriors seem to think. GLBTA Channel
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.05.07 15:08:00 - [233] Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 07/05/2007 15:05:30 Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss grasping at straws i see, feeling a bit left out and forgotten? Not at all Tomahawk, nice of AM to redec so we can kill your comrades again! Mista looks nice! Star Fraction is recruiting
Tomahawk Bliss The Aegis Militia Aegis Militia	Posted - 2007.05.07 15:32:00 - [234] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 07/05/2007 15:05:30 Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss grasping at straws i see, feeling a bit left out and forgotten? Not at all Tomahawk, nice of AM to redec so we can kill your comrades again! Mista looks nice! but wait, what about Amarr? Surely having space dominance in Amarr is important...you just spent four weeks hammering home that point after all. Hypocrisy much? perhaps, just perhaps, you picked the wrong system to start with. Mista is a better location, but still not the best. You know where you have to go to make an impact. until you are there accept that you will not matter and don't get bitter about it (unless IÆve misinterpreted the inane word play bantering as anything other than bitter anger at being duped by your arch-enemies? Does it burn that Archbishop helped play SF?) as to you war currently, you do know that PIE is still not effected by any of this conflict right? i mean your great plan of breaking PIE hasn't even slowed them down. how can a broken corp be on the frontlines of a regional battle for dominance of Providence? could you remind me again what your operational goals are? Gogo Yubari> You can't destroy your enemy with the power of thought alone like many forum-warriors seem to think. GLBTA Channel
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.05.07 15:46:00 - [235] Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss but wait, what about Amarr? Surely having space dominance in Amarr is important...you just spent four weeks hammering home that point after all. Hypocrisy much? Hardly. We have it Tomahawk. Its done. We have pretty much 24/7 dominance in Amarr. You gave up remember? You expect us to camp an empty system round the clock? If AM have an active wardec and are based in Mista we'll come and shoot you there too. Where exactly is the "hypocrisy" in this? I think you've been listening to Archbishop too long and he simply doesn't understand the word. Quote: as to you war currently, you do know that PIE is still not effected by any of this conflict right? i mean your great plan of breaking PIE hasn't even slowed them down. how can a broken corp be on the frontlines of a regional battle for dominance of Providence? As an organisation they are less than 33% as active as they were at the beginning of the war. We track their pilots online status you know. I'm sure their few remaining pilots are riding the coat-tails of the CVA in providence since its about the only thing they can still do. Quote: could you remind me again what your operational goals are? You can read I imagine. Go read the declaration. Star Fraction is recruiting
Tomahawk Bliss The Aegis Militia Aegis Militia	Posted - 2007.05.07 16:34:00 - [236] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine As an organisation they are less than 33% as active as they were at the beginning of the war. We track their pilots online status you know. I say again, PIE is not only uneffected but on the forefront of Empire exspantion. it is the hight of arrogance to assume your war dec is any more effective than Ushra'khans has been for years. why even m0o couldn't topple the Amarr groups, and they were more than SF has ever been or ever will be. face it sugg, you aren't even second fiddle in a school time band...unless of course you want to dip your toes into where PIE is at? Mista is nice for AM...but didn't you say you were trying to break PIE? changing goals mid stream again? makes sense i guess, when one path leads to faliure a smart man changes course. Gogo Yubari> You can't destroy your enemy with the power of thought alone like many forum-warriors seem to think. GLBTA Channel
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.07 16:40:00 - [237] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine As an organisation they are less than 33% as active as they were at the beginning of the war. We track their pilots online status you know. Wrong. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.05.07 17:09:00 - [238] Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 07/05/2007 17:05:36 Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Jasmine Constantine As an organisation they are less than 33% as active as they were at the beginning of the war. We track their pilots online status you know. Wrong. Ah Rodj, enjoying your promotion to chief amarrian morale officer? But sadly the statistics do not back up your claims. Your average online / combat gang partcipation numbers are currently standing at about 33% of your maximum witnessed levels (at the high point). Your lowpoint actually reaches moments where you have only a single combat pilot active for half the day. Its not impressive. Star Fraction is recruiting
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.07 17:13:00 - [239] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 07/05/2007 17:10:15 Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 07/05/2007 17:05:36 Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Jasmine Constantine As an organisation they are less than 33% as active as they were at the beginning of the war. We track their pilots online status you know. Wrong. Ah Rodj, enjoying your promotion to chief amarrian morale officer? But sadly the statistics do not back up your claims. Your average online / combat gang partcipation numbers are currently standing at about 33% of your maximum witnessed levels (at the high point). Your lowpoint actually reaches moments where you have only a single combat pilot active for half the day. Its not impressive. Of course, when you compare an average with a maximum, the maximum comes out on top. I could equally point to the thirty pilots you had online during the final Brother Joshua escort operation and compare it with the five or so pilots you typically had available a week or so later, but I won't because such a comparison would also be statistical nonsense. Now, perhaps you would care to stop trying to derail your own thread. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.05.07 17:40:00 - [240] Originally by: Rodj Blake I could equally point to the thirty pilots you had online during the final Brother Joshua escort operation and compare it with the five or so pilots you typically had available a week or so later, but I won't because such a comparison would also be statistical nonsense. You could say that certainly, but then you'd be lying. What is your point again? Star Fraction is recruiting

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