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Not remotely true Archbishop. A few weeks ago the PIE military had the ability to keep more than two ships in Throne World space at the same time.

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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine

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For the cost of 7 tech2 frigates, a basilisk class logistics cruiser, and Eris class Interdictor and a lone Rupture class cruiser we were able to account for 6 enemy tech2 frigates, 4 cruisers, 2 Battlecruisers and 4 more executions of enemy capsule pilots from the wreckage and more importantly,

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we could go where we choose, fight where we wanted too, move with complete freedom and shut down all loyalist movement outside their largely static heavy fleets.

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The ex PIE admiral Gaven LokÆri himself paid a price for his overconfidence in this manner, for while a CVA fleet were ôblockadingö what they assumed was SF fleet capability in Amarr a light raiding force blew his Harbinger class Battlecruiser to pieces and scrambled his pod in the wreckage to usher him personally into his next reincarnation.

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The situation continued to improve and the next 24 hours saw the Fraction raiding gangs travelling from Amarr and the Throne worlds to the depths of Providence and back again, striking without warning and without mercy to take the lives of CVA and their allies anywhere they were found.

For the loss of a single Crow class interceptor we destroyed: 4 Battleships (2 Abaddons, Raven, Dominix) a Vagabond class Heavy Assault Cruiser, a Myrmidon class Battlecruiser, 4 tech1 cruisers, a pair of Interceptor class frigates and a further eight capsule pilot executions to drive the message solidly home. Nowhere is space is safe from the reach of the Star Fraction in a declared war.

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Amarrian Morale slipping in the Throne Worlds û A duel to remember

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Amarrian casualties continued to mount the following day with SF forces finding cause to clear Amarr Prime again from CVA counterattack with a pair of Battleships (Maestrom and Megathron) Munin class Heavy Assault Cruiser, and three tech2 frigates being slain over the course of the day for the exchange of 4 SF Battlecruisers and 4 tech2 frigates of various grades.

But prize of place for the days fighting was the single combat victory of Free Captain Kin OreynÆs Thorax class cruiser over CVA pilot CountingCurses in a Zealot class Heavy assault Cruiser under the shadow of the EmperorÆs Statue at the Academy Station.

Bringing pure guts and relentless combat talent to the fore the dashing Captain Oreyn charged the startled CVA Zealot commander and rapidly overcame the enhanced defences and firepower of the Amarrian vessel to win a famous victory for the Star Fraction that would go on to be broadcast on all the leading holonetworks across the inner sphere that day.

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Thorax vs Zealot û a brilliant result for Gallente panache over Amarrian pride and adding insult to injury the cheeky Captain Oreyn quickly docked his trusty thorax to return with a salvage vessel and managed to extract almost 100m isk worth of rare components from the breached hull of his deposed adversary. Combat zeal and economic smarts û truly the mindset of a Free Captain!

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Originally by: Rodj Blake

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On the subject of duels, I hear that your CEO had an interesting one

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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine

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Originally by: Rodj Blake

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On the subject of duels, I hear that your CEO had an interesting one

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Not that we know of, do tell?

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I wouldn't dream of going into the specifics here because I have no desire to derail the thread and it didn't happen last week, nor was it against a loyalist.

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Originally by: Rodj Blake

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I wouldn't dream of going into the specifics here because I have no desire to derail the thread and it didn't happen last week, nor was it against a loyalist.

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No idea what you are talking about, I'm guessing neither do you

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I can see why you as an SF spin doctor would claim to have no knowledge of such an embarrassing incident, but since this isn't the thread to discuss friction between the factionistas and their "allies" in Bloodveil, I won't enlighten you.

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Originally posted by: Jasmine Constantine
Not remotely true Archbishop. A few weeks ago the PIE military had the ability to keep more than two ships in Throne World space at the same time.

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Originally posted by: Rodj Blake
I can see why you as an SF spin doctor would claim to have no knowledge of such an embarrassing incident, but since this isn't the thread to discuss friction between the factionistas and their "allies" in Bloodveil, I won't enlighten you.

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As we never kept a functioning operational base there anyway nothing is new. Amarr has been used in the past as a rallying point and ceremonial headquarters for PIE but our operational areas have always been quite different.

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An excellent observation Admiral Blake in light of the reported circumstances of this event it is very clear Jasmine wouldn't wish to comment about such an embarassing turn of events for her cousin Jade and her Slepiner.

I would suggest though that the Star Fraction send a technician to repair their killboard database.... it seeems an entry that was there just the other day has vanished! As we know the levels to which they rely on this killboard for their war diary information something like this could cripple their PR operations on IGS. After all showing that they have an inaccurate database would automatically render all their statistical and recorded statements suspect and moot.

I would send that technician immediately if I were you.

This is assuming the disappearance of this entry was simply a "computer error" and not an intentional act given the statements by the Star Fraction that their database is open to all for review.

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An excellent observation Admiral Blake in light of the reported circumstances of this event it is very clear Jasmine wouldn't wish to comment about such an embarassing turn of events for her cousin Jade and her Slepiner.

I would suggest though that the Star Fraction send a technician to repair their killboard database.... it seeems an entry that was there just the other day has vanished! As we know the levels to which they rely on this killboard for their war diary information something like this could cripple their PR operations on IGS. After all showing that they have an inaccurate database would automatically render all their statistical and recorded statements suspect and moot.

I would send that technician immediately if I were you.

This is assuming the disappearance of this entry was simply a "computer error" and not an intentional act given the statements by the Star Fraction that their database is open to all for review.

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I am going to be quite open and honest about this because the truth is not something to fear.

Jade Constantine's Sleipnir class vessel was destroyed in an accident during weapons and shield systems testing in which pilots of the Sani Sabik alliance took part.

The incident was investigated and pending this the kill entry was posted to our database in line with our policy of posting all kills where enemy action may have taken place.

The investigation determined that the incident was, in fact, an accident caused by the inattention of a Sani Sabik alliance pilot. Jade Constantine was reimbursed in full at market rate for ship and fittings.

The kill entry was then intentionally removed as we have a very simple and straightforward policy with regards to our killboard.

All losses due to enemy capsuleer action are posted.

Losses resulting from training or testing accidents, tournaments or other non-warfare related losses where only friendlies are involved are not posted.

To repeat: every loss inflicted on Star Fraction pilots by enemy action must be posted. This is a requirement within the Star Fraction that is rigorously enforced. These losses are made publicly available along with our kills for anyone to peruse.

The suggestion our killboard is inaccurate, within this clear and simple policy, is a slur. We will take no lessons on our killboard policies from those who, for whatever reason, choose not to publicise any losses whatever.

I may add that there was a recent incident of a false kill being accidently posted by the CVA alliance. We entirely accepted it was an accident and cast no aspersions on the CVA's honour as a result of that.

We expect our courtesy in that matter to at least be respected in kind.

The Cosmopolite

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So then, what you're telling is that Jade was unaware of her alliance's policy regarding loss mails, and so posted it, only removing it later when she realised that she needn't have done so?

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I would think you could simply accept that and move on.
The Cosmopolite

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No. Try reading more carefully.

I have said all that needs to be said about the incident. It has no bearing on the war in any way. Our killboard is maintained as accurately as possible for its purpose of tracking military actions involving our pilots, win or lose.

I would think you could simply accept that and move on.

The Cosmopolite

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So then, what you're telling is that Jade was unaware of her alliance's policy regarding loss mails, and so posted it, only removing it later when she realised that she needn't have done so?

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No. Try reading more carefully.

I have said all that needs to be said about the incident. It has no bearing on the war in any way. Our killboard is maintained as accurately as possible for its purpose of tracking military actions involving our pilots, win or lose.

I would think you could simply accept that and move on.

The Cosmopolite

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So, if your version of events is correct, someone must have been unaware of your policy and put it there, only for it to be removed later.

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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine

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I would think you could simply accept that and move on.
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Come on Cosmo, that would suggest they had something else to do while suppressed hopelessly in stations and nursing their wounded pride and sense of burning humiliation at the outcome of the war so far

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So, if your version of events is correct, someone must have been unaware of your policy and put it there, only for it to be removed later.

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I would think you should probably look to the presence of phantom killmail padding on your war board before throwing this stone in a glass house Rodj.

(but this does amply illustrate why CRC rules forbid the explicit discussion of killmails on this communications medium - it inevitably leads to this kind of silly, off topic and fruitless discussion)

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If you recall, I was against a lengthy discussion on the subject of Jade's Sleipnir, but you insisted on bringing it up.

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Meanwhile, if you're aware of any erroneous posts on our killboard, I'm sure that you can work out a way of informing me of the specifics without breaking any rules.

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If you recall, I was against a lengthy discussion on the subject of Jade's Sleipnir, but you insisted on bringing it up.

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So, if your version of events is correct, someone must have been unaware of your policy and put it there, only for it to be removed later.

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Did I hit too close too home, or so far away from it that you found it better to argue with a preacher of slavery and a practitioner of ineptitude?

Other melodies I suppose. Or perhaps Mr. Archbishop and his cronies represent too good an opportunity for further humiliation?

I would have raised the issue elsewhere as I have read in the past that the free captains don't like discussions of that nature in their diaries, but I was reluctant to do that for a number of reasons. I'll take it up elsewhere then I guess. Maybe a more fruitful endeavor.

Maybe my pilots photo just scared you? I promise that it's just some kind of CONCORD incompetence, I really do have a fleshy head like the rest of you...

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Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 04/05/2007 14:56:25
On the subject of this mornings little fight:

I do think as we were the ones who chose to start that little engagement, which due to a mistake on our part in the opening manuevers went to the Deciever, and as we had complete operational freedom throughout the engagement, it is rather odd for you to try and spin it as if you were somehow controlling the system.

In fact, before we chose to engage, I was able to dock and undock unscathed in any way shape or form from emperor at will. As your entire pilot complement save one was docked there, this is a rather odd phenomenon for someone who supposedly has been denied Amarr as a base of operations.

We are still fully capable of useing our HQ as a base of operations and we will remain capable of this despite your best efforts.

You really have done nothing but change the faces of the hostiles in Amarr.

edit:(gramatical fixes and such)

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