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Kerdrak Amarr 3B Legio IX Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2007.05.08 17:20:00 - [121] Originally by: Egne Ver Originally by: Kerdrak Edited by: Kerdrak on 08/05/2007 05:50:38 FLA don't need MC... They can beat them: http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/6544/flatacticsbe1.jpg Ahh... thats right you can post stuff from anyones forums except BOD's too I forgot. Bah, only a small revenge... ________________________________________ First atheist amarr on EVE
Dash Ripcock 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.05.08 17:44:00 - [122] Originally by: Angor Originally by: Dash Ripcock Originally by: Banlish Oh for pete's sake... Class B These are the mercs that are really starting to make a name for themselves and have been working in certain sectors of EVE for months if not years Many people associated Outbreak with working in the north for instance However these mercs can take AND recieve a pounding without shattering. Mercs in this class can take almost horrendous losses in a battle and they still have good replacements stashed elsewhere and can come back, meaner and ready for payback. Class A These mercs are known by almost everyone, by name at the very least. Or by the fact that along some of their careers they've faced these mercs and know how good they are. (Example: I've only been in EVE for around 20 months but I've fought against Burn Eden, Outbreak, Veto, KIA and MC. Why? Because they take contracts almost anywhere and are willing to travel to setup a new offensive) On top of that, these kinds of mercs deploy all kinds of crazy gear that even some corps cannot deploy. Large groups of capitals, super capitals, full tech 2 fleets, etc. They can bring the fight, and some bring it 23/7 or until the contract lapses. They also hold their contract as an unbreakable bond, they won't dishonor the spirt of the contract. That's a nice post Banlish, just one minor detail. Outbreak aren't mercenaries. Nobody hires us. We either want in on a fight or we don't. No discredit to your original post as it's excellent. Umm, really? So when you guys came to help us out in YM- you were doing it for free, just for the fun of it? I always thought you were being paid to help us. I'm quite amazed to find out you sacrifice ships for nothing, you must be being bank rolled somehow? Also, why are you helping Ushar Kahn if your not being paid, do you just hate CVA or something? Anyway credit to you if this is infact true. Nothing? Destroying relentless fleets and the first Mothership in game... nothing? The cost of fielding T2 fitted fleet battleships in combat pales in comparison to such prizes! Outbreak - The Movie
SwindonBadger 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.05.08 19:15:00 - [123] Edited by: SwindonBadger on 08/05/2007 19:13:49 Id like to hire the MC. I can offer them some important corpses as payment but I dont think I could out do what bob have to offer with that. If u do have a better offer in isk-ship value to give over bob u have something to bargin with. Only then do u get to phase 2, does ur corp alliance back up its word, bob are known for seeing things through. Love or hate bob they have gotten where they are by not backing down and continuing to hold there heads and see things through no matter how the other side fights. If u have A the isk and B the rep ull have much better chance of getting somewhere with mc. I dont belive they arnt a merc corp, I think they follow a contract to the bone. Would you trust mc if they suddenly said u know what mid contract with bob we will just turn on them. As regards to 0utbreak, not for one day have we been a merc corp. If u enjoy shooting things without pollatics, employers with like minded folks willing to go all over the place to find new fights and see the gallaxi ... do it, u dont have to be a merc or a super alliance. We like collecting loot ... as you would exspect, and u bet ur life mc make some nice isk like that let alone any pay checks.
Exortius Amarrus The Clearwater Society Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.05.08 19:19:00 - [124] Originally by: Gariuys You know what the problem is with MC... and it's a problem most will agree on... they're good, and at the end of the day, if you need what only they can deliver, you'll hire em. "And in a pool of despair, bathed in the light of ignorance, a ray of hope." ------------------------
Paltar Eternal Rising EternalRising	Posted - 2007.05.08 19:20:00 - [125] Originally by: Kerdrak Originally by: Egne Ver Originally by: Kerdrak Edited by: Kerdrak on 08/05/2007 05:50:38 FLA don't need MC... They can beat them: http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/6544/flatacticsbe1.jpg Ahh... thats right you can post stuff from anyones forums except BOD's too I forgot. Bah, only a small revenge... Not sure what your point is about the pic from FLA's forums. It seems to be just a suggestion for fitting from someone internally who actually stuck it out to fight and was trying to think outside the box with what he had available in order to keep fighting. Not sure on your reasons for leaving FLA, but I'm sure it wasn't exhaustion from fighting off the hordes so perhaps you don't have room to criticize the pilots that did stay to fight? Probably 65% of FLA's military force has always been "work with what you have" Its a blessing and a curse, on the one hand when you try to lead them out you have no faith in the consistency of your force, but on the other you know those guys who've dotted up to fight are doing it because they want to defend their space regardless of their vocation or much flaunted carebear status. Back to the topic at hand, I'm sure when this whole war thing has died out, MC will have plenty of offers on the table regardless of what they've been perceived as doing in this war. End of the day they are one of the premier fighting forces with negotiable affiliation, and there will be plenty of future conflicts that don't involve BOB where someone considers that a few isk for a sure win isn't such a bad idea. www.eternalrising.net
dastommy79 Artic Blue Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.08 20:09:00 - [126] Originally by: Kerdrak Edited by: Kerdrak on 08/05/2007 05:50:38 FLA don't need MC... They can beat them: http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/6544/flatacticsbe1.jpg WOW I used to have a very high respect for 3b, that is all gone now. I understand that u dont like to fly cheap ships, but the post in FLA Forums (not caod btw noob) was not meant for the everyday pvp're. It was a suggestion to get our industrialist bretheren into a somewhat effective fighting force. But anyways when the good fight came, you guys ran away so i have to say these carebears flying thorax's and caracals are better fighters then you. Seriously that was pretty lame http://www.scoutca.com/fekesig2.jpg
Kerdrak Amarr 3B Legio IX Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2007.05.08 20:33:00 - [127] Edited by: Kerdrak on 08/05/2007 20:29:41 Originally by: dastommy79 Originally by: Kerdrak Edited by: Kerdrak on 08/05/2007 05:50:38 FLA don't need MC... They can beat them: http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/6544/flatacticsbe1.jpg WOW I used to have a very high respect for 3b, that is all gone now. I understand that u dont like to fly cheap ships, but the post in FLA Forums (not caod btw noob) was not meant for the everyday pvp're. It was a suggestion to get our industrialist bretheren into a somewhat effective fighting force. But anyways when the good fight came, you guys ran away so i have to say these carebears flying thorax's and caracals are better fighters then you. Seriously that was pretty lame I talk for myself not for my corp, don't be stupid please... If you don't know, don't talk. About seeing me flee? you must have been dreaming it mate (wet dreams FTW). Btw, I never have seen one of your corp fighting so proof of STFU :). I wouldn't flee from your entire alliance, I cant tank you all You know what is lame? deleting all killboard related stuff and backstabbing corps when leaves that "alliance" Hahahaha, keep mining mate and get a clue before posting. PD: yes, I'm not a diplomat... ________________________________________ First atheist amarr on EVE
Frygok Minmatar Mean Anglo-Danes	Posted - 2007.05.08 20:46:00 - [128] Is it now allowed to post links with informations such as this, even though it is not constructive and is only flaming/trolling? I am quite clear that after a certain incident, the moderators specified these rules. However it now seems like we can link to any personal informations from internal forums and not getting it modded(as the post below the link in this thread has been modded out). Very interesting.
Kerdrak Amarr 3B Legio IX Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2007.05.08 20:53:00 - [129] Originally by: Frygok Is it now allowed to post links with informations such as this, even though it is not constructive and is only flaming/trolling? I am quite clear that after a certain incident, the moderators specified these rules. However it now seems like we can link to any personal informations from internal forums and not getting it modded(as the post below the link in this thread has been modded out). Very interesting. Yes, too much vital/strategical info in the pic... ________________________________________ First atheist amarr on EVE
Frygok Minmatar Mean Anglo-Danes	Posted - 2007.05.08 21:08:00 - [130] Originally by: Kerdrak Originally by: Frygok Is it now allowed to post links with informations such as this, even though it is not constructive and is only flaming/trolling? I am quite clear that after a certain incident, the moderators specified these rules. However it now seems like we can link to any personal informations from internal forums and not getting it modded(as the post below the link in this thread has been modded out). Very interesting. Yes, too much vital/strategical info in the pic... Not really. But it seems that posting stuff from internal boards are now okay? It is an interesting development in this particular forum, I dare say!

Marko Debreault 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.05.08 21:25:00 - [131] Originally by: Angor Umm, really? So when you guys came to help us out in YM- you were doing it for free, just for the fun of it? I always thought you were being paid to help us. I'm quite amazed to find out you sacrifice ships for nothing, you must be being bank rolled somehow? Also, why are you helping Ushar Kahn if your not being paid, do you just hate CVA or something? Anyway credit to you if this is infact true. We were not paid, or even asked, by either FATAL or UK to come and fight. On both occasions we approached them and asked if we could participate in the fighting. We seek out these sorts of conflicts because its fun and we need the practice. Isk is really not a consideration. There are unique considerations that lead us to choose one side over the other, but at this point in OB's history we have never accepted isk to kill anyone. We've accepted isk to not kill someone, but that's a different story.
dastommy79 Artic Blue Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.08 21:25:00 - [132] Originally by: Kerdrak Edited by: Kerdrak on 08/05/2007 20:29:41 Originally by: dastommy79 Originally by: Kerdrak Edited by: Kerdrak on 08/05/2007 05:50:38 FLA don't need MC... They can beat them: http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/6544/flatacticsbe1.jpg WOW I used to have a very high respect for 3b, that is all gone now. I understand that u dont like to fly cheap ships, but the post in FLA Forums (not caod btw noob) was not meant for the everyday pvp're. It was a suggestion to get our industrialist bretheren into a somewhat effective fighting force. But anyways when the good fight came, you guys ran away so i have to say these carebears flying thorax's and caracals are better fighters then you. Seriously that was pretty lame I talk for myself not for my corp, don't be stupid please... If you don't know, don't talk. About seeing me flee? you must have been dreaming it mate (wet dreams FTW). Btw, I never have seen one of your corp fighting so proof of STFU :). I wouldn't flee from your entire alliance, I cant tank you all You know what is lame? deleting all killboard related stuff and backstabbing corps when leaves that "alliance" Hahahaha, keep mining mate and get a clue before posting. PD: yes, I'm not a diplomat... LMAO look at the killboard you noob :P. Not bad stats for a "carebear", better than yours. Thats ok, dont look back, keep running.... there might be bobits behind ya. Keep running u can do it. RUN!!!!!!!!!!! BOB!!!!!!!!!!!!! lmao i'll give your corp credit, i think they are good pvp'rs but they need to lose the "noobs" ie you. You give your corp a bad name, maybe you should stop posting also my corp is 1/10 the size of yours and maybe you would see more of us if u ganged with the rest of the alliance instead of going off on your own and gettin popped by NPC's. Keep running, keep running............... bobs right behind you http://www.scoutca.com/fekesig2.jpg
Kerdrak Amarr 3B Legio IX Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2007.05.08 21:36:00 - [133] Originally by: dastommy79 LMAO look at the killboard you noob :P. Not bad stats for a "carebear", better than yours. Thats ok, dont look back, keep running.... there might be bobits behind ya. Keep running u can do it. RUN!!!!!!!!!!! BOB!!!!!!!!!!!!! lmao i'll give your corp credit, i think they are good pvp'rs but they need to lose the "noobs" ie you. You give your corp a bad name, maybe you should stop posting also my corp is 1/10 the size of yours and maybe you would see more of us if u ganged with the rest of the alliance instead of going off on your own and gettin popped by NPC's. Keep running, keep running............... bobs right behind you We will see soon ________________________________________ First atheist amarr on EVE
NATMav F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.05.08 22:04:00 - [134] Quick, someone post something from BoB's board so it will get snipped and locked. -------------------------------------
Chib Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.05.08 22:12:00 - [135] lollerskates @ this thread......thought it an overdue time for this topic to be revived imo there will always be mercenaries because there will always be a need, but i honestly believe the days of "neutrality" are over...nobody can avoid politics especially MC now that they have their place in this war although i direct a question to seleene and ofc you can tell me to mind my own business but are MC fighting because theyre on contract or because you're very close friends of bob and wish to help them against the coalition ---------------------------------------------
Myndpyre Ryche Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.08 22:59:00 - [136] The only defination of the word "Mercenary" that I care about is from the people who pay me.
Zhajad Khalud The Red Rage	Posted - 2007.05.09 00:55:00 - [137] Originally by: Kerdrak Edited by: Kerdrak on 08/05/2007 05:50:38 FLA don't need MC... They can beat them: http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/6544/flatacticsbe1.jpg Run for it, MC, they're coming for you in stabbed caracals On a more serious note, its a good thing im browsing this while cooking, I'm all hungry now!
Dracolich North Star Networks Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.05.09 01:26:00 - [138] MC will never be true mercs again - not without kladdkaka...
king jks Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.05.09 01:26:00 - [139] The problem I see with speculating whether or not such and such entity is truly neutral is that such discussion is irrelevant. Due to the nature of politics and human nature in large groups, the tendency is for large entities to polarize to one another. Of course you'll have some people who are at various levels of neutrality in the middle, but one always has speculations in times of great conflict such as these, and no one ever wants to be on the receiving end of a beating. The way I see it, the war in the North is over. Various D2 and Coalition forces leaving for other things have drastically drained what resources were available in a losing-fight in the first place. Unless something drastic happens, the Coalition will eventually fade from existence. The real conflict we must be looking for is on the horizon, since after BoB/MC is done with the north, they will almost certainly turn their full attention to the looming threat of RAGOON and friends. And rest assured MC will be contracted yet again for the war on the south, unless, as said before, something drastic happens. Speculations abound, I forsee one of two things happening. RAGOON wins, but due to the nature of the alliance, and ahem cultural differences, they are unable to keep the alliance going, in-fighting results. And since RA, while having demonstrated exempliary skill in accumulating new territories, are not well known for their ability to hold and defend such territory, they will be once again subject to attack from whatever the second largest entity there is. In this case I believe it will be the GOONS. Or. BoB/MC win. They continue to hold territory, work together, have new residents in the conquered territory until various powers want some space of their own, given that with the fall of both the north and the south, BoB will own close to 75% of the available 0.0 space. Or, MC moves on, perhaps gaining regions of their own, or moving on to a nomadic mercenary life style. However, at this point, whichever happens, happens. MC will always be what they are, or will always want to be a mercenary force. I personally think it is an interesting lifestyle, since they seem to do what sovereign forces do anyway, except they get paid by other third parties to do it. I think I will enjoy watching from the sidelines as the events unfold, but I don't think anyone is exempt from the consequences of this war.
Tomas Ysidro Caldari Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.09 02:16:00 - [140] Dracolich wins the thread tbh :P

joefishy S.A.S Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.05.09 08:36:00 - [141] for the kladdkaka. !!!! ************************************************************************
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.09 11:44:00 - [142] Originally by: Chib although i direct a question to seleene and ofc you can tell me to mind my own business but are MC fighting because theyre on contract or because you're very close friends of bob and wish to help them against the coalition We are on contract. - Vid - 'P-2 Defense'
Lunas Feelgood Maza Nostra RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.09 12:07:00 - [143] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Chib although i direct a question to seleene and ofc you can tell me to mind my own business but are MC fighting because theyre on contract or because you're very close friends of bob and wish to help them against the coalition We are on contract. haha nice Originally by: Shamis Orzoz When the going gets tough...the tough join Bob. Originally by: Shin Ra Didn't u get the memo? Bending over is the new honorable thing to do!
Ran Fujimiya Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.09 15:17:00 - [144] One of my personal favorite treats in the spring/summer time is nice and simple: PB & Honey + extra (variantion on "The Elvis") - grill 3 or more slices of Bacon (not the Canadian style) - toast 2 slices of high-grain wheat bread - slice a generous layer of peanut-butter across each toasted slice - slice up 1 bananna, position slices evenly across one of the PB covered bread slices - pour however much honey you like over the banannas - place the bacon on top of the honey and banannas, close it up and enjoy. Try it while drinking a Cream Stout or the like and it adds a nice little touch to the experience (Some people like to add hot-sauce to this, but I think that just gives too much flavor in a bad way) The taste will surprise you like a doomsday on a freighter OP yarr _______________________________________________________________________________________________
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.09 15:47:00 - [145] None of this nancy stuff, you need a proper butty to stick to your ribs. 2 fat doorstops. Slart tons of butter one side of each of 'em. Fry (or grill if you're health conscious) half a dozen rounds of good quality smoked bacon. Gently slap the cooked bacon into your butty. Drown in brown sauce and eat. /me rubs fat belly. Blog at: The Jammy Blog
Chuck Dawg Artic Blue Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.10 04:27:00 - [146] Edited by: Chuck Dawg on 10/05/2007 04:26:12 Originally by: Kerdrak Edited by: Kerdrak on 08/05/2007 21:20:40 Originally by: dastommy79 Originally by: Kerdrak Edited by: Kerdrak on 08/05/2007 05:50:38 FLA don't need MC... They can beat them: http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/6544/flatacticsbe1.jpg WOW I used to have a very high respect for 3b, that is all gone now. I understand that u dont like to fly cheap ships, but the post in FLA Forums (not caod btw noob) was not meant for the everyday pvp're. It was a suggestion to get our industrialist bretheren into a somewhat effective fighting force. But anyways when the good fight came, you guys ran away so i have to say these carebears flying thorax's and caracals are better fighters then you. Seriously that was pretty lame I talk for myself not for my corp, don't be stupid please... If you don't know, don't talk. About seeing me flee? you must have been dreaming it mate (wet dreams FTW). Btw, I never have seen one of your corp fighting so proof or STFU :). I wouldn't flee from your entire alliance, I can tank you all You know what is lame? deleting all killboard related stuff and backstabbing corps when leaves that "alliance" Hahahaha, keep mining mate and get a clue before posting. PD: yes, I'm not a diplomat... It's backstabbing when an alliance deletes ur KB stats when you leave? But yet when you leave the alliance becuase they're being attacked thats called what? If anything you deserve all the ** that hits your fan. You tucked your tail between your legs and ran away. One day you're there, the next you're gone. (FYI your KB stats are not deleted genius. You may want to look again http://freelancer-alliance.net/Killboard/?a=corp_detail&crp_id=4800) We never PVP? Oh in please. Like Dastommy said we're 1/10th your size but yet we were always near the top of the KB. We only mine? Are you on ***? 3B Legio would mine so much they had to move to our designated system to eat up our roids becase E-FICO was raped of all the roids. Hell you guys mine so damned much you have a ship replacement and capital ship program. Your pilots dont have to buy their own ships and just mine for the corp. So don't even start with the whole carebear claims because you're calling the kettle black. But heck i suppose that a gang of 10 hulks and 10 coveters isnt carebear material right? But yet us mining in a rokh/mega is the definition of carebear. Hell I'm glad you guys left. You did things for the better of the corp and not the alliance. You ganged by yourselfs and flew to other places instead of coming to where you were needed most the time. Good riddance is what I'd call a happy ending.
Kerdrak Amarr 3B Legio IX Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2007.05.10 08:50:00 - [147] Originally by: Chuck Dawg It's backstabbing when an alliance deletes ur KB stats when you leave? But yet when you leave the alliance becuase they're being attacked thats called what? If anything you deserve all the ** that hits your fan. You tucked your tail between your legs and ran away. One day you're there, the next you're gone. (FYI your KB stats are not deleted genius. You may want to look again http://freelancer-alliance.net/Killboard/?a=corp_detail&crp_id=4800) We never PVP? Oh in please. Like Dastommy said we're 1/10th your size but yet we were always near the top of the KB. We only mine? Are you on *? 3B Legio would mine so much they had to move to our designated system to eat up our roids becase E-FICO was raped of all the roids. Hell you guys mine so damned much you have a ship replacement and capital ship program. Your pilots dont have to buy their own ships and just mine for the corp. So don't even start with the whole carebear claims because you're calling the kettle black. But heck i suppose that a gang of 10 hulks and 10 coveters isnt carebear material right? But yet us mining in a rokh/mega is the definition of carebear. Hell I'm glad you guys left. You did things for the better of the corp and not the alliance. You ganged by yourselfs and flew to other places instead of coming to where you were needed most the time. Good riddance is what I'd call a happy ending. Stop talking about 3B, my reason to stay against FLA is something personal. The reason why 3B left FLA is different and was posted in your forums. I left FLA before, when everybody stop fighting and the idea of "strategic" was train for caracals with WCS... About the killboard stats: - 3B was in FLA very few time. But on top of the killboard since the first day. Check that. In all operations, bringing capitals and biggest gangs to all operations while being FLA. You can't whine about 3B, it's out of discussion. As I told, I'm talking by myself (freedom of word FTW). - You have a new killboard. OK, thanks for fixing that. Now you are a bit less lame. You are all free to set "Kerdrak" neg standing and cry for the embarrassing picture. I have been embarrassed too when ~4 hostiles camped the station and nobody undocked to kick them, or when a gang of 50 FLA was in a warm POS while a 10 pirate gang was laughing at us... There was, and are fine people in FLA, but what killed FLA are the bunch of cowards/noobs and wallet **s (with billions in their pocket) who undocks in tech 1 frigs to fight while rat in full tech 2/faction ships. This will be my last post about this theme. Seem you can't separate personal opinions from whole corps. ________________________________________ First atheist amarr on EVE*
Stitcher Caldari legion of qui Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.10 11:36:00 - [148] That's quite enough, please. Chuck, I'd appreciate if we could maintain the seperation between individual and corp here. I'd rather not see the whole of 3B Legio IX persecuted for the actions of a single member. Kerdrak, the reason FLA presently has an issue with you is that you publically posted info from the members-only section of our private forum, and did so maliciously in order to make us look bad. What you posted is a single post from an entire sub-forum pertaining to ship and fleet fittings, and was not even made by an FLA fleet commander or anyone in a position of sufficient authority to declare an official fleet setup. W/stabs are not now and have never been a part of the FLA recommended fleet setup. I'm not about to go into the specifics of what we do recommend that our pilots fly, but suffice it to say, that list is not it. Your only reason for posting that was to make FLA look bad because you have some kind of a grudge against us, and that's very poor show. It simply isn't cricket, old chap. -Stitcher FLA Senior Fleet Commander. *** Training of the skill "Bamboo Stick" to level 5 has been completed.
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.10 12:11:00 - [149] Originally by: Stitcher Your only reason for posting that was to make FLA look bad because you have some kind of a grudge against us, and that's very poor show. It simply isn't cricket, old chap. -Stitcher FLA Senior Fleet Commander. Makes him look bitter and sad rather than you bad, I saw it as a guy with some heart geeing up to bring more with what he has, and props for that. Posting private forums is wrong m'kay? Blog at: The Jammy Blog
Stitcher Caldari legion of qui Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.10 12:25:00 - [150] Originally by: Grimster Makes him look bitter and sad rather than you bad That's what I was hoping, but you know... got to cover all the bases. Thank you, however. *** Training of the skill "Bamboo Stick" to level 5 has been completed.



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