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Istoledat	Posted - 2007.05.14 20:23:00 - [1] 0.0 pvp seems like a game of waiting at gates (for hours). This to me is not really pvp it's just waiting for the other team to get bored and say F-it or they go away. If they do say f-it and come through a gate then it's a turkey shoot lag fest for a few min. Low sec pvp gate camps, this is about as close as this game comes real heart pounding pvp. I only hope that putting lvl 5 missions in low sec will make these areas more populated and thus perpetuating this style of play. Empire no pvp there unless you have war decs. WoW you can pvp non stop all day long with targets all over the place. NON STOP ALL DAY LONG. I have gotten over 800 kills in that game in one day. That's a lot of action. The big difference is that Eve has a harsh penalty and wow has no penalty. So in the end what do we learn? Harsh penalty = Less pvp. Let the flaming commence
MotoTsume Gallente Clan Black Scorpion	Posted - 2007.05.14 20:24:00 - [2] no flame, just a question why are you here, and not playing WoW? It's just a game........Or is it?????
nickycakes Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.14 20:25:00 - [3] i guess if spamming 1 or 2 buttons over and over for hours for 0 reward and no incentive to actually be good is your bag, then bye
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.05.14 20:25:00 - [4] Originally by: Istoledat 0.0 pvp seems like a game of waiting at gates (for hours). This to me is not really pvp it's just waiting for the other team to get bored and say F-it or they go away. If they do say f-it and come through a gate then it's a turkey shoot lag fest for a few min. Low sec pvp gate camps, this is about as close as this game comes real heart pounding pvp. I only hope that putting lvl 5 missions in low sec will make these areas more populated and thus perpetuating this style of play. Empire no pvp there unless you have war decs. WoW you can pvp non stop all day long with targets all over the place. NON STOP ALL DAY LONG. I have gotten over 800 kills in that game in one day. That's a lot of action. The big difference is that Eve has a harsh penalty and wow has no penalty. So in the end what do we learn? Harsh penalty = Less pvp. Let the flaming commence You're absolutely right. One question though. What did you feel when you ran into a group of hostiles in Alterac Valley? There's your answer. signature removed - please contact us to find out why (include the URL of your sig) - Jacques([email protected])
DiuxDium	Posted - 2007.05.14 20:25:00 - [5] Edited by: DiuxDium on 14/05/2007 20:24:30 /duel e; the poster 2-3 posts up has my vote. I can get NON STOP ACTION. By playing counter-strike, what's your point? Get this, different games have different goals! ------------- The above user should never be taken seriously.
Acli	Posted - 2007.05.14 20:26:00 - [6] pvp in wow is like killing rats in eve.
Istoledat	Posted - 2007.05.14 20:26:00 - [7] Originally by: nickycakes i guess if spamming 1 or 2 buttons over and over for hours for 0 reward and no incentive to actually be good is your bag, then bye as apposed to pushing Fkeys? huge difference eh?
Istoledat	Posted - 2007.05.14 20:27:00 - [8] Originally by: MotoTsume no flame, just a question why are you here, and not playing WoW? Don't get me wrong, I LIKE EVE A LOT! My point is that this macho you must loose all your stuff for pvp is actually hindering pvp.
The Pointless Gallente Lacks a Point Ltd	Posted - 2007.05.14 20:27:00 - [9] Originally by: Istoledat Originally by: nickycakes i guess if spamming 1 or 2 buttons over and over for hours for 0 reward and no incentive to actually be good is your bag, then bye as apposed to pushing Fkeys? huge difference eh? Uh... HeLlOoOoOoOoOo? EVE is totally different from WoW. Why compare them? ----------------------------------------------- "And I scream in a thousand voices!"
Kiviar Caldari Dirty Sanchez Ltd	Posted - 2007.05.14 20:29:00 - [10] Well he is right; wow does have a considerably larger amount of PVP. However, it isn't really possible to compare the two games, as they are completely different. A better comparison might be Shadowbane since it had city building and such. As for one or the other being a better pvp game, that really comes down to personal preference. Forums are what?
DiuxDium	Posted - 2007.05.14 20:29:00 - [11] Originally by: Istoledat Originally by: nickycakes i guess if spamming 1 or 2 buttons over and over for hours for 0 reward and no incentive to actually be good is your bag, then bye as apposed to pushing Fkeys? huge difference eh? itt someone who has never been in a fleet command position. Every single big fight in EVE has a weeks, or even months of preparations behind it. Counter-Strike is the game for you though it'd seem. p.s Counter-Strike rocks, as does Eve. ------------- The above user should never be taken seriously.
Afrodite Etnellag	Posted - 2007.05.14 20:32:00 - [12] Originally by: Istoledat Originally by: nickycakes i guess if spamming 1 or 2 buttons over and over for hours for 0 reward and no incentive to actually be good is your bag, then bye as apposed to pushing Fkeys? huge difference eh? You do not get the whole picture, there must be a reason to PVP, in eve you have plenty, political, isk gain, griefing(which results in isk gain) WoW, on the other hand miss a lot of those reasons to pvp, actually it has none so yeah the whole idea might look the same, but its not
Janu Hull Caldari Order of Z Industries	Posted - 2007.05.14 20:33:00 - [13] Originally by: Istoledat Originally by: MotoTsume no flame, just a question why are you here, and not playing WoW? Don't get me wrong, I LIKE EVE A LOT! My point is that this macho you must loose all your stuff for pvp is actually hindering pvp. The first rule of EVE Club, never fly a ship you can't afford to lose. The second rule of EVE Club, NEVER FLY A SHIP YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE. This is my sig, there are many others just like it. With me, my sig is worthless. Without (or with even) my sig, I am worthless...
Elles D Caldari The Aduro Protocol Ground Zeero	Posted - 2007.05.14 20:34:00 - [14] Originally by: Istoledat 0.0 pvp seems like a game of waiting at gates (for hours). This to me is not really pvp it's just waiting for the other team to get bored and say F-it or they go away. If they do say f-it and come through a gate then it's a turkey shoot lag fest for a few min. Low sec pvp gate camps, this is about as close as this game comes real heart pounding pvp. I only hope that putting lvl 5 missions in low sec will make these areas more populated and thus perpetuating this style of play. Empire no pvp there unless you have war decs. WoW you can pvp non stop all day long with targets all over the place. NON STOP ALL DAY LONG. I have gotten over 800 kills in that game in one day. That's a lot of action. The big difference is that Eve has a harsh penalty and wow has no penalty. So in the end what do we learn? Harsh penalty = Less pvp. Let the flaming commence No pvp in high-sec?! Try can-stealing m8....
David Ryan Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.05.14 20:36:00 - [15] ..go play WoW then? -------------------
madaluap Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.05.14 20:38:00 - [16] wow = worse than testserver pvp, you lose nothing. Not even the time it takes to warp back to station, think about what went wrong, how you can counter it the next time, fit a better setup and undock again. After a while it just gets boring. Btw what do you think when a 40 billion ship goes down and what do you think when a lvl 70 omfg uberhax char dies? EvE is the first game that ever got my hands shaken and adrenaline rushing. _________________________________________________ Breetime A killmail!11!1 omgrawr: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
smashsmash	Posted - 2007.05.14 20:38:00 - [17] i don't like pvp in either game. i don't like pvp for that matter. i'm use to the pvpers in eve making fun of my apathy, but i'm prepared to defend them to the death.
Lynal Gallente Peregrin Avionics	Posted - 2007.05.14 20:45:00 - [18] Originally by: Istoledat Originally by: MotoTsume no flame, just a question why are you here, and not playing WoW? Don't get me wrong, I LIKE EVE A LOT! My point is that this macho you must loose all your stuff for pvp is actually hindering pvp. but thats the difference... WoW pvp is meh... oh darn, i got ganked by some high lvl ally on my way to the FP, darn. just rez and move on... the worst they can do is corpse camp you and annoy you... pvp in WoW has no meaning. you don't lose anything (yet for some reason there seemed to be ALOT of people afraid to really get into a fight... like dying would be painful or something)... the rewards for WoW pvp are pitiful compared to the pve rewards... WoW pvp just doesn't have the adrenaline that comes with EvE pvp.
Kiviar Caldari Dirty Sanchez Ltd	Posted - 2007.05.14 20:52:00 - [19] Originally by: madaluap wow = worse than testserver pvp, Originally by: Lynal WoW pvp just doesn't have the adrenaline that comes with EvE pvp. Go to a wow forum and you will hear people go on and on about how boring and time consuming pvp in eve is. People have different ideas about what is fun. Forums are what?
Rakshassa	Posted - 2007.05.14 20:53:00 - [20] having played wow pvp and not eve pvp i cnt give a balanced opinion but from my impression of eve pvp is there isnt much objectivity to it. in WoW you pvp(ed) for honor and ranks and reputation and fun and the penalty for death was very low and some classes were incredably adaptive and required multiple techiques to win in pvp (See Druids.) hyrbid gear allowed such classes to be a jake of all trades master of none which in pvp was one of the best ways to be. ''gate camping'' did happen in the form of instance camping when you were going to raid. Now in Eve the pvp system does seem very odd, its very gank based it seems (all the gate camping) theres some mission ganking ive read about but again its very gank based. there seems to be very little objective in eve pvp appart from war decs and fighting over 0.0 space but this doesnt seem to be done much as the large allaicens can crush pretty much anyone who tries to take their space. the gank mentality comes down to the very harsh penalties for dieing in eve. loosing ur ship and possibly ur pod is expensive at least in terms to the wow death pentalties. battle grounds may not be a bad idea for eve, you need to que in stations, and you fight for story objectives, penalties for death are reduced in some way. for a pvp focused game eve does little to make pvp have objectives.
Janu Hull Caldari Order of Z Industries	Posted - 2007.05.14 21:00:00 - [21] There's another level of EVE PvP that involves player sovreignty. Its something to aspire to, but very very few people will ever see that level of major league action. For the vast majority of us, PvP here is really not too much different from PvP in WoW in terms of functionality. The looting of corpses and total loss of items is a slightly steeper slope for losing, but nothing insurmountable if you're intelligent and prepared. This is my sig, there are many others just like it. With me, my sig is worthless. Without (or with even) my sig, I am worthless...
PirateShampoo Minmatar UK Corp FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.14 21:13:00 - [22] Not at all, their are many sov owning, or renting corps that have to defend their space where you can get a taste of 0.0 and alliance based life, they have different requirements but if you have been with the game a few months your sure to find one that suits. See the recruitment channels, masses of posts from various 0.0 dwelling corporation.
Rakshassa	Posted - 2007.05.14 21:17:00 - [23] i would disagree with that, i was an officer of a moderate pve guild (BWL before BC when i quit) (background, i was feral(druid) and speced for pve feral tanking but anyway) casul pvp was so much more fun than it appears in eve, on TS with a couple of good mates drunk as anything working together and having a pretty ******* fun time in BGs after a raid OR solo perfecting the techiniques to beat various classes. where as the casul pvp in eve is just gank or be ganked it seems.
Teron D'Amun The Burning Orphans Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.05.14 21:29:00 - [24] Edited by: Teron D''Amun on 14/05/2007 21:32:12 Edited by: Teron D''Amun on 14/05/2007 21:30:37 Originally by: Rakshassa there seems to be very little objective in eve pvp appart from war decs and fighting over 0.0 space but this doesnt seem to be done much as the large allaicens can crush pretty much anyone who tries to take their space. what pvp objectives does wow have exactly? in the early days of the TM-SS zerg cluster** there might have been a little meaning to it, as it allowed your newb characters in that area to quest unmolested when people started to go more and more into BRM you had entrances to BRD/BRS/MC/BWL camped, but it didn't stop anyone from going to those instances, you died once maybe twice if your guild wasn't steamrolling them on their way in, but apart from that annoyance, there was no real PvP goal there to be achieved it doesn't matter at all if your faction wins or looses a battleground, nothing changed in the outside world, instead you queue up again to do the same thing over and over and over then they came up with the lolsand in Silithus and capture the towers in EPL - want to know the really funny part about them? They did jack and ** for pvp but instead were used by any raiding guild worth its salt to buff up (the %hitpoint buff you got when capturing a tower was completed) to make things a little easier in Naxxramas-Sapphiron/Kel'Thuzad especially BC had those 'world objectives' that hand out buffs, but yet again, those helped PvE not PvP (who do you think benefited more from the zone wide damage and experience gain buffs - PvPers or grinders/questers?)
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.05.14 21:32:00 - [25] If you want non-stop PvP in EVE you just have to declare war on the right alliance. I don't know what you're smoking but WoW senseless ganking for nothing does nothing for me, now hand over thine whacky tobaccy and begone infidel! Also Known As
Janu Hull Caldari Order of Z Industries	Posted - 2007.05.14 21:35:00 - [26] Originally by: Teron D'Amun then they came up with the lolsand in Silithus Always wondered what became of that idea. When it was first suggested about collecting dust from worms in a desert, you couldn't go a day without someone saying "The spice must FLOW!". Did they do a blue eye glowie effect when you were buffed from it? This is my sig, there are many others just like it. With me, my sig is worthless. Without (or with even) my sig, I am worthless...
Ogdru Jahad Amarr Ihatalo Internal Security Ihatalo Cartel	Posted - 2007.05.14 21:51:00 - [27] Originally by: Istoledat Originally by: MotoTsume no flame, just a question why are you here, and not playing WoW? Don't get me wrong, I LIKE EVE A LOT! My point is that this macho you must loose all your stuff for pvp is actually hindering pvp. Not everyone sits on a gate waiting for his lil ship to come along... someof us roam around in small groups looking for combat. sometimes we get what we desire. others we get more than we chewed off. at the end of the day Eve like any other game is what you make of it. - .
Kather Turbulent	Posted - 2007.05.14 21:53:00 - [28] thats like saying counterstrike has more pvp than eve avast, matey! Yarr old sig is too large, the maximum allowed filesize is 24,000 bytes. -Hango
Araxmas The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency	Posted - 2007.05.14 22:06:00 - [29] cough Twinks I've said my bit and I will now take my absence. -------- Robbie Rotten left me
Khorian Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.14 22:11:00 - [30] Edited by: Khorian on 14/05/2007 22:10:42 When I played WoW I often got ganked while exping. The funny thing is, I ran back immediately to where I died to resume what I was doing and often got killed again and again and again. I did it on purpose, to show them how useless it was and that they where wasting their own time, not mine, and every time they got bored and left. I called it "pulling a ghandi" and it worked great. The thing is, WoW PvP is useless, meaningless. Its nothing, really. It's fun once in a while, but so is CS:S. --------------------- This is the signature

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