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murder one
Gallente
Death of Virtue
Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.05.27 07:55:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fendahl
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The next patch also makes it possible to detect cloaked ships with scan probes, so the BS fleet could have its scouts scan for hidden surprises.
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O RLY?
Because I said so...
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Malcore Trisus
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.05.27 08:16:00 -
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I predict more logoffski by ratting battleships and less SS and cloak.
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Alski
Gallente
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2007.05.27 08:21:00 -
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I predict lots more whine threads, and a global shortage of cheese.
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F2C MaDMaXX
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.05.27 08:55:00 -
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Link/proof?
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Natural Selection Developer
Sound FX
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.05.27 08:57:00 -
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Sounds good to me. I dont think ships were intended to be able to hide themselfs forever. It creates a lot of problems.
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Garia666
Amarr
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
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Posted - 2007.05.27 08:57:00 -
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 Originally by: F2C MaDMaXX
Link/proof?
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=525843
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Blue Pixie
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Posted - 2007.05.27 09:00:00 -
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I predict people with Covert Ops Cloaking Device II BPOs will love this even more than what inventions did for their profits.
I also predict I'll be flying a Curse much more often than a Pilgrim, at least until the crybabies get NOS nerfed (which I'm almost certain is next on their agenda).
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Garia666
Amarr
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
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Posted - 2007.05.27 09:04:00 -
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i have mixed feelings about it..
special designed ships like the cover ops and the recon ships shouldnt be able to get scanned.. i dont mind any other ship tough.
But if its easy to scan for those well... i figure you get my point
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James Duar
Merch Industrial
We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.05.27 09:06:00 -
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Originally by: Malcore Trisus
I predict more logoffski by ratting battleships and less SS and cloak.
You realize this is actually a good thing? No wasted time for a target who's not about.
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Hellown
Avis de Captura
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Posted - 2007.05.27 09:20:00 -
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Thanks CCP, again you give into the whiners, i Hope this doesnt affect the covert ops/recon ships.
Eve: Where Whining carebears get EVERYTHING they ask for.
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Twilight Moon
Minmatar
Malicious Intentions
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.27 09:29:00 -
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lol....I frosee the following happening:
1) You probe out a cloaker.
2) You warp to them
3) You see nothing when you get there because the damn thing is still cloaked, and you landed more than 2500m away from it
4) You fly about aimlessly trying to run into it, not knowing if it has warped yet or not.
5) You whine on the forums a bit more.
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MOS DEF
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.05.27 09:34:00 -
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Originally by: Twilight Moon
lol....I frosee the following happening:
1) You probe out a cloaker.
2) You warp to them
3) You see nothing when you get there because the damn thing is still cloaked, and you landed more than 2500m away from it
4) You fly about aimlessly trying to run into it, not knowing if it has warped yet or not.
5) You whine on the forums a bit more.
Ding Ding Ding!
We have a winner!
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Ponderous Thunderstroke
Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2007.05.27 09:36:00 -
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For our next trick, all you have to do is look in the direction of a cloaked ship and he immediately uncloaks and is stuck in space for 5 minutes...
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fire 59
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.27 09:38:00 -
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Edited by: fire 59 on 27/05/2007 09:38:10
Originally by: Twilight Moon
lol....I frosee the following happening:
1) You probe out a cloaker.
2) You warp to them
3) You see nothing when you get there because the damn thing is still cloaked, and you landed more than 2500m away from it
4) You fly about aimlessly trying to run into it, not knowing if it has warped yet or not.
5) You whine on the forums a bit more.
I think the deal with this isn't about cloak specific ships like recons, co ops etc. It's every ratter and hostile ship class fitting a cloak and doing the afk thing or whatever. If you need to log, what's the problem but if your just doing the overnight thing, you move so slowly that they will eventually get you. If someone is behind the wheel, there is no problem is there ?
Edit - Most shocking moment was a goonswarm noob ship cloaking, was too shocked to try and decloak it
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murder one
Gallente
Death of Virtue
Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.05.27 09:46:00 -
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Personally I wouldn't have any issue at all with scanning/probing regular ships fitted with cloaks. That is to say: all ships except Recons, Covert Ops and Stealth Bombers.
The above three classes simply need to be allowed to fit Covert Ops cloaks (including the SBs), and everyone else not fitting COC2s can be probed/scanned down. Problem solved.
Because I said so...
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Blue Pixie
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Posted - 2007.05.27 09:49:00 -
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Originally by: fire 59
I think the deal with this isn't about cloak specific ships like recons, co ops etc.
Actually, CCP Fendahl's remark was in reference to Stealth Bombers. Granted, they aren't recons or cov ops, but they are 'least in theory "cloak specific" ships.
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James Duar
Merch Industrial
We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.05.27 09:49:00 -
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Originally by: Twilight Moon
lol....I frosee the following happening:
1) You probe out a cloaker.
2) You warp to them
3) You see nothing when you get there because the damn thing is still cloaked, and you landed more than 2500m away from it
4) You fly about aimlessly trying to run into it, not knowing if it has warped yet or not.
This seems balanced to me. Cov Ops and Recons will never get caught, but it's likely that it's a tad too risky to leave them AFK overnight (still, if you only get to say, 100km of the target ship, then that's really a 100km sphere which is about 4.2 million cubic kilometers of space a single ship could be in, with an effective volume of ~66 cubic kilometers meaning you need to search approximately 8,000 separate portions of space assuming you move between the intersections of 8 cubes in the space which is an approximation but it seems pretty valid in this case).
The big story is that if you probe out a ratter, he's stuck watching you circle with a difficult decision.
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Blue Pixie
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Posted - 2007.05.27 09:52:00 -
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Originally by: murder one
Personally I wouldn't have any issue at all with scanning/probing regular ships fitted with cloaks. That is to say: all ships except Recons, Covert Ops and Stealth Bombers.
The above three classes simply need to be allowed to fit Covert Ops cloaks (including the SBs), and everyone else not fitting COC2s can be probed/scanned down. Problem solved.
Not saying I disagree with you, but then again... what would be the point of the other cloaking mods?
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Kanitsu Hiyaboosa
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Posted - 2007.05.27 09:55:00 -
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Well if your part of BoD they could detect cloaked ships before the patch, hell they can even join a waring corp without permission.
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Twilight Moon
Minmatar
Malicious Intentions
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.27 09:57:00 -
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Originally by: Kanitsu Hiyaboosa
Well if your part of BoD they could detect cloaked ships before the patch, hell they can even join a waring corp without permission.
Theres a thread for this crap....and this thread isnt it.
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Takis Shiro
Mining and Missions Industries
THE V I G I L
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Posted - 2007.05.27 09:59:00 -
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So while I scan for exploration sites where I have to stand still for hours waiting on scans or else i lose any data I have been gathering I can now be probed out by someone who isnt gimped by the fact all their CPU is used for running a probe launcher?
Great.
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000Hunter000
Gallente
Magners Marauders
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Posted - 2007.05.27 10:02:00 -
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Originally by: Hellown
Eve: Where Whining carebears get EVERYTHING they ask for.
 @ comparing feature whiners and carebears as beeing 1 and the same.
Yes i consider myself a carebear and i absolutely HATE the idea of making cloaked ships scannable, whats the point of cloaks if u can still find them anyways and decloak them?
Anyone wanna buy a buzzard and a falcon? 
CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!!
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murder one
Gallente
Death of Virtue
Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.05.27 10:29:00 -
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Originally by: Blue Pixie
Originally by: murder one
Personally I wouldn't have any issue at all with scanning/probing regular ships fitted with cloaks. That is to say: all ships except Recons, Covert Ops and Stealth Bombers.
The above three classes simply need to be allowed to fit Covert Ops cloaks (including the SBs), and everyone else not fitting COC2s can be probed/scanned down. Problem solved.
Not saying I disagree with you, but then again... what would be the point of the other cloaking mods?
It would still make you difficult to find. Just not (literally) impossible. If they weighted the accuracy of the probe result with the size of the target and other factors, then ratting BS with cloaks fitted would be the most vulnerable, and other ships less so.
There just needs to be some way to kill macro ratters when they cloak.
Because I said so...
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Aramendel
Amarr
Queens of the Stone Age
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.27 10:43:00 -
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Edited by: Aramendel on 27/05/2007 10:47:58
Originally by: Twilight Moon
lol....I frosee the following happening:
1) You probe out a cloaker.
2) You warp to them
3) You see nothing when you get there because the damn thing is still cloaked, and you landed more than 2500m away from it
4) You fly about aimlessly trying to run into it, not knowing if it has warped yet or not.
5) You whine on the forums a bit more.
Unless the cloaker is afk, then you should find him eventually. And that is a good think IMO (and I say that as a recon pilot).
Originally by: Blue Pixie
Not saying I disagree with you, but then again... what would be the point of the other cloaking mods?
Ambushes? Never saw a bird of prey waiting in deep space till the enterprise has left the sector. The "afk hiding forever" use of cloaks is IMO a corruption of their intended use. Also, it will be still very possible to use cloaks to evade an enemy, even if they probe you, you just cannot do it without effort.
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franny
Phoenix Knights
Dark Nebula Galactic Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.27 10:50:00 -
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I have mixed feeligns about it
i'll probably just 'speed fit' my recon/covert ops, and start off at weird angles when I need to afk
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Kramer Verone
Amarr
TeamMX
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Posted - 2007.05.27 11:03:00 -
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Edited by: Kramer Verone on 27/05/2007 11:02:25
Originally by: fire 59
I think the deal with this isn't about cloak specific ships like recons, co ops etc.
Wrong. At least form that snipet the OP quoted. I don't think ratting ravens provide warp ins for fleets.......lol
more directly to the point, a hidden suprise form the quote are the bombers/cloaked titan since remote DD will be nerfed.
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar
Guardians of the Dawn
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.05.27 11:04:00 -
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Lol scan for hidden surprises? THRE IS NO SURPRISE IN EVE. Not with Local as it is!
Remove cloaked ships from local at least!!!! AND delay local feed up a bit for everybody (5 min would be nice)
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Presidente Gallente
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Posted - 2007.05.27 11:08:00 -
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I just cloak and keep moving. The probe-hero warps in and I am out of de-cloak range anyways.
So it's senseless to change cloak. Cloak is cloak means cloak. Period.
Whining for nerfing cloak is like
- nerf gate camping because it sucks
- nerf the skills of a 4 years player because he sucks
- nerf gangs because 10v1 sucks
- nerf insta-warps because they suck
- nerf everything I can't deal with because that sucks
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.05.27 11:08:00 -
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Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 27/05/2007 11:07:48
Weird thing about to be said inc!
This is actually quite logical for ausch a ralistic game as EVE.
Do you people really think nations would just sit on their assets as cloaked ships ran around doing gods only know what?
Nope, they built anti devices. Then probably the cloakers would build better cloaks or adapt.
It's funny how the same people who say "this is a real game, go play wow if you don't like it" whine when something realistic happens 
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murder one
Gallente
Death of Virtue
Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.05.27 11:12:00 -
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Read OP for update.
Because I said so...
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