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Gaius Kador PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.08 18:32:00 - [151] Originally by: Eddie Gordo Originally by: Gaius Kador Originally by: Lady Summerrain Wow congratz CVA, but Harden, I have a small question. At least you didnt mistype his name Hardon, you must never do that! ;) You do realise thats all he is EVER going to get called now. Stay on-topic dog, or I'll whip your granma :p ----------------------------------------------
Silvestri Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.06.08 18:32:00 - [152] That has got to be the longest report ever. Was a good one though. It was more of a battle report of the southern area down there. IAC vs. ISS...memories...MC invasion. What fun. Congrats on 9UY.
WackyPlayer	Posted - 2007.06.08 18:33:00 - [153] Edited by: WackyPlayer on 08/06/2007 18:31:59 delete please
Calypso's Wrath Caldari Black Watch Legionnaires	Posted - 2007.06.08 18:47:00 - [154] Originally by: Aindrias Edited by: Aindrias on 08/06/2007 16:51:51 Edited by: Aindrias on 08/06/2007 16:51:21 Originally by: Lady Summerrain Wow congratz CVA, but Harden, I have a small question. Since when is NOS a "friendly" local alliance, and not a valued ally? Is that the reason Fang alliance was allowed to take over sov in FSW? Has anyone told NOS that they are no longer a CVA ally, just a local friendly alliance? Well anyway gratz On the contrary, FANG was allowed FSW due to a past agreement made. NOS was always teetering on keeping that system or not due to it's difficult defensive issues (multiple pipe leading into it, no real economic value either). NOS was more than willing to fight FANG and CVA and Sylph were ready as well. The agreement was equitable to all parties involved. As far as I'm concerned, CVA and NOS are FRIENDS and Keepers of Providence. I'd rather be called a FRIEND than an Ally anyways, it's much more warm and fuzzy. Friends I'd never leave in a bad spot, allies.. well.. when the going gets too rough.. LOL when the going gets too rough... Your corp mates POS up?
Eveliddia Amarr The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.08 19:04:00 - [155] Originally by: Calypso's Wrath Originally by: Aindrias Edited by: Aindrias on 08/06/2007 16:51:51 Edited by: Aindrias on 08/06/2007 16:51:21 Originally by: Lady Summerrain Wow congratz CVA, but Harden, I have a small question. Since when is NOS a "friendly" local alliance, and not a valued ally? Is that the reason Fang alliance was allowed to take over sov in FSW? Has anyone told NOS that they are no longer a CVA ally, just a local friendly alliance? Well anyway gratz On the contrary, FANG was allowed FSW due to a past agreement made. NOS was always teetering on keeping that system or not due to it's difficult defensive issues (multiple pipe leading into it, no real economic value either). NOS was more than willing to fight FANG and CVA and Sylph were ready as well. The agreement was equitable to all parties involved. As far as I'm concerned, CVA and NOS are FRIENDS and Keepers of Providence. I'd rather be called a FRIEND than an Ally anyways, it's much more warm and fuzzy. Friends I'd never leave in a bad spot, allies.. well.. when the going gets too rough.. LOL when the going gets too rough... Your corp mates POS up? Not sure about you but when the going gets tough.... I stay cloaked
Calypso's Wrath Caldari Black Watch Legionnaires	Posted - 2007.06.08 19:18:00 - [156] Eveliddia, i hear ya.. I should follow that mantra, :( I lost 3 arazu's last month.
CiderKing Gallente Perpetua Umbra Brotherhood Of Steel	Posted - 2007.06.08 20:31:00 - [157] Originally by: Pouncer Eventually it was decided we would keep UK blue, set CVA neutral, ignore any demands the latter might make, and remove ourselves from the conflict. Some time after that, BOS was in for a shock - our primary nemesis, ENH, had been invited to UK's shared anti-piracy intel channel. The introduction was something I, and many other BOS pilots, will never forget: Sapphrine > channel changed for ENH in channel Green Halo > oh dear TRGr > huh?there haev been ENH in channel? or you're letting them in? Mistress Suffering > I believe I am the first to have been in this channel now. Mistress Suffering > Has not been any prior. Avious Tylepthine > hey its enh in unite-now 3 days ago I would have killed someone over this Green Halo > lol Mistress Suffering > Don't worry, we're still the same cheerful friendly types we were before. Green Halo > Good to hear :P Alois Hammer > lol TRGr > lol Avious Tylepthine > I guess this means your not killing BoS anymore right? Mistress Suffering > No, BoS is being removed. Avious Tylepthine > what do you mean? Sapphrine > u'k, any questions, ask your councilors UK then stood idly by as ENH put several BOS towers into reinforced mode. A call went out to IAC and CVA for help. IAC, who we hadn't really interacted with for months due to their war with UK, immediately offered us sanctuary in their space. CVA, our long-standing enemy, who had every reason to believe this was some sort of elaborate UK-BOS ruse to ambush their capital ships, immediately sent several carriers to rep our shields, and put a fleet on standby in case we needed it for additional support. With the addition of a somewhat mealy-mouthed response from Maggot about what was going on between UK and ENH, the BOS senate voted with uncharacteristic speed to set UK red. That sort of morphed into orange, as many BOS pilots were still conflicted in their feelings toward UK (e.g., I let several UK ships that appeared to be evacuating from Unity station pass unmolested through a gatecamp in Y-MPWL). Nevertheless, BOS' long-standing friendship with UK is at an end, and the alliance has decided to leave Providence. And those UK pilots we've flown with this past year who wonder why BOS pilots interject cries of "Amarr Victor!" in threads like this now know the rest of the story. Ah, I miss your write-ups Pouncer! (BOS lost 3 towers to ENH after the NAP with U'K btw) BOS has indeed left that section of space, too much drama, not enough good ore/rats :) Special thanks to IAC for letting us live in Catch. Special thanks to ENH, you guys are very good at what you do, and I'd like to think some of us learned from you. (Playing with FIX has shown I did atleast. ) -Cider
Aindrias Amarr Fomus-Amarr Industrial Novus Ordos Seclorum	Posted - 2007.06.08 20:41:00 - [158] Quote: when the going gets too rough... your corpmates put POS's up I don't understand =-( LOL Soon.. yes... soon... cloaker of DOOM! ;-) See what you can do with Paintbrush?
Isyel Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.06.08 20:45:00 - [159] Aw.. Sounds like an epic struggle indeed. Hm, one one hand i'm extremely happy stuff actually moved a bit down there, that struggle was stagnating for too long. Maybe being driven out for the moment will cause a shift in the U'K and make them return to kick Amarr arses on a whole new level. Who knows, who knows. On the other hand it's kind of ironic you're trying so hard to eradicate one of the rare groups willing to actively rp with you all the time and don't get tired of some of your.. uhm.. less rp-adept people, to put it nicely. Good luck to the U'K, may you come back in force and kick them out already, they become a bit tiresom after a while when they settle down. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Originally by: Wrangler We don't want to discriminate anyone! We want both anti-social and social players to grief each other!
Scaramouche Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.06.08 21:07:00 - [160] Edited by: Scaramouche on 08/06/2007 21:06:35 Ok, so now we've read the book...when is the dvd available? .............................................................................................. Remember, only dead fish and broken sticks go with the flow.
Yakov Draken Minmatar The Newb Patrol Knights Of Syndicate	Posted - 2007.06.08 22:13:00 - [161] A sad day indeed. Well fought all. Originally by: zoolkhan b) thanks to all current allies who turned up and aided us w/o asking for a reward just out of .. respect i guess. I am still stunned. And i hope we can uphold some wires to each other. I am seriously touched and i certainly have slightly better balanced view on "the evil pirates" topic. (i am still anti-pirate by heart, but these guys rock) I think the U'K should learn a lesson here. Anti-piracy is a distraction when the real issue is the slavers. Originally by: zoolkhan uniting the matari tribes? i always wanted to do that - in fact u'k was that - we united the matari tribes of the time. New clans arose, but they preferr to support amarr by supporting the republic. QFT The new clans also focused on anti-piracy over anti-slaver. IMO anti-piracy is a hold over from anti-pk rpers and a major distraction, if not the major distraction, from the real issue facing the Matar. Good luck for the future U'K. I hope one day to fight by your side against the slavers.
Hardin Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.09 08:17:00 - [162] Originally by: Yakov Draken IMO anti-piracy is a hold over from anti-pk rpers and a major distraction, if not the major distraction, from the real issue facing the Matar. Good luck for the future U'K. I hope one day to fight by your side against the slavers. Ah but you see for the Amarr side 'anti-piracy' has always been a stong 'uniter' of the various Amarr RP groups because of our belief in 'protecting the Empire'. I think unconsciously that thinking spilled over to the Minnie side. I can see why Minmatar groups may be better off not being involved in smiting piracy or indeed working with pirates (they are 'terrorists' after all. The only problem with that is it is kinda hard to 'recruit' to your cause when directly or indirectly you are shooting as many Minmatars as Amarrian. The only solution would be to base that piracy in an Amarr region but even that would still give the 'slaver' Amarrian a huge PR advantage because all the **ed off locals would gravitate to the 'law-bringing' Amarrians - as happened to a certain extent in Providence. ------------------------------ CVA - Kicking Arse For The Empire - http://eve-files.com/dl/83607 AMARR VICTOR**
Keorythe Caldari Terra Rosa Militia	Posted - 2007.06.09 08:52:00 - [163] Originally by: Hardin The only solution would be to base that piracy in an Amarr region but even that would still give the 'slaver' Amarrian a huge PR advantage because all the **ed off locals would gravitate to the 'law-bringing' Amarrians - as happened to a certain extent in Providence. A month ago, most corps and alliances in Providence would have never thought about offensively attacking UK. UK did their thing and CVA did theirs while everyone just took advantage of the "rent free" 0.0 space that CVA offered. It was funny to see that some groups out there taking advantage of CVA's space were almost hostile to them for stupid little reasons. When UK started to show up with known pirate organizations to raid and kill any nuetrals it **ed off alot of people. Evoke was understandable but BUM and Ein were not. Alot of those "friends" of CVA were people coming after UK because of the deals they made with local pirates. In their desperation to defend their territory, UK ended up smearing their own name with many of the non-affiliated locals living in both CVA and UK space. I found it very ironic that many of those groups were more than happy to raid R3/Misaba but rarely showed up for any sort of defense of 9uy. With great power comes great responsibility...and hawt cyborz!
Master OlavPancrazio Einherjar Rising	Posted - 2007.06.09 08:59:00 - [164] Originally by: Keorythe Originally by: Hardin The only solution would be to base that piracy in an Amarr region but even that would still give the 'slaver' Amarrian a huge PR advantage because all the **ed off locals would gravitate to the 'law-bringing' Amarrians - as happened to a certain extent in Providence. A month ago, most corps and alliances in Providence would have never thought about offensively attacking UK. UK did their thing and CVA did theirs while everyone just took advantage of the "rent free" 0.0 space that CVA offered. It was funny to see that some groups out there taking advantage of CVA's space were almost hostile to them for stupid little reasons. When UK started to show up with known pirate organizations to raid and kill any nuetrals it **ed off alot of people. Evoke was understandable but BUM and Ein were not. Alot of those "friends" of CVA were people coming after UK because of the deals they made with local pirates. In their desperation to defend their territory, UK ended up smearing their own name with many of the non-affiliated locals living in both CVA and UK space. I found it very ironic that many of those groups were more than happy to raid R3/Misaba but rarely showed up for any sort of defense of 9uy. I find it funny someone who has never partaken in combat in Providence would try to act like his opinion mattered.
Hardin Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.09 09:04:00 - [165] Guys lets try and keep it polite... Unfortunately as you would expect on CAOD some people will take advantage of a post like this which was created to try and provide a relatively balanced picture (albeit from CVA perspective) to have a pop at CVA or UK. That was not what this thread was created for. So please unless you want to add some information (a bit like the chap from BOS did on the previous page) that gives everyone an insight into Providence politics (and hasn't been said already) then please try and avoid digs which will just instogate flames. Cheers ------------------------------ CVA - Kicking Arse For The Empire - http://eve-files.com/dl/83607 AMARR VICTOR
Amandi Casimi Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.09 09:11:00 - [166] Anyone else notice that Hardin is one ugly bastard? :) Anyways... Fun fights, and I hope the raids from UK keep coming. I gotta have someone to kill. Let neutrals be neutrals.
Rawthorm Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.06.09 11:05:00 - [167] A very nice write up tho damm you, I missed a target I was laying in wait for while reading this shakes fist
LordAmarus Minmatar Einherjar Rising	Posted - 2007.06.09 12:23:00 - [168] Originally by: CiderKing Originally by: Pouncer Eventually it was decided we would keep UK blue, set CVA neutral, ignore any demands the latter might make, and remove ourselves from the conflict. Some time after that, BOS was in for a shock - our primary nemesis, ENH, had been invited to UK's shared anti-piracy intel channel. The introduction was something I, and many other BOS pilots, will never forget: Sapphrine > channel changed for ENH in channel Green Halo > oh dear TRGr > huh?there haev been ENH in channel? or you're letting them in? Mistress Suffering > I believe I am the first to have been in this channel now. Mistress Suffering > Has not been any prior. Avious Tylepthine > hey its enh in unite-now 3 days ago I would have killed someone over this Green Halo > lol Mistress Suffering > Don't worry, we're still the same cheerful friendly types we were before. Green Halo > Good to hear :P Alois Hammer > lol TRGr > lol Avious Tylepthine > I guess this means your not killing BoS anymore right? Mistress Suffering > No, BoS is being removed. Avious Tylepthine > what do you mean? Sapphrine > u'k, any questions, ask your councilors UK then stood idly by as ENH put several BOS towers into reinforced mode. A call went out to IAC and CVA for help. IAC, who we hadn't really interacted with for months due to their war with UK, immediately offered us sanctuary in their space. CVA, our long-standing enemy, who had every reason to believe this was some sort of elaborate UK-BOS ruse to ambush their capital ships, immediately sent several carriers to rep our shields, and put a fleet on standby in case we needed it for additional support. With the addition of a somewhat mealy-mouthed response from Maggot about what was going on between UK and ENH, the BOS senate voted with uncharacteristic speed to set UK red. That sort of morphed into orange, as many BOS pilots were still conflicted in their feelings toward UK (e.g., I let several UK ships that appeared to be evacuating from Unity station pass unmolested through a gatecamp in Y-MPWL). Nevertheless, BOS' long-standing friendship with UK is at an end, and the alliance has decided to leave Providence. And those UK pilots we've flown with this past year who wonder why BOS pilots interject cries of "Amarr Victor!" in threads like this now know the rest of the story. Ah, I miss your write-ups Pouncer! (BOS lost 3 towers to ENH after the NAP with U'K btw) BOS has indeed left that section of space, too much drama, not enough good ore/rats :) Special thanks to IAC for letting us live in Catch. Special thanks to ENH, you guys are very good at what you do, and I'd like to think some of us learned from you. (Playing with FIX has shown I did atleast. ) -Cider Np :p was our pleasure , have fun , fly safe and pew pew those FIXes as for the rest , lets keep it polite gentleman. Words mean crap especially forum words , so pls if you have a difference of opinion , decide who's right on the battlefield :p Have No Fear , I Is Here
Vyktor Abyss The Abyss Corporation	Posted - 2007.06.09 20:30:00 - [169] Splendid write up Mr.Hardin...as fair a write up as I've seen here to date. Though as has been said earlier you really are one ugly barstard! No chance you'll make emporer with a mug like that! - Ideas are my business...maybe thats why I'm always skint! Please read my ideas
Johncrab Minmatar Typo Corp	Posted - 2007.06.09 23:29:00 - [170] Awesome report Hardin... as usual. Wish you the best of luck for what comes next UK. Have to say though, that I find disapointing you guys chose such high profile pirate corps/alliances to help you defend Unity. Think most of us (outsiders that have been cheering for UK all this time) have a hard time buying this issue. Was it worth throwing away one highly respected UK's doctrine (to fight against pirates), in order to defend Unity at all costs?
Azver Deroven Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.06.10 00:45:00 - [171] In all honestly, Im really, REALLY, anoyed by the fact that I missed it all. Ticks me off big time, really... But my congratulations to winners and what I gathered, even losers need to be pat into back for putting up good fight. So, where we gonna have this goin' on next time?
Maggot Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.06.10 01:27:00 - [172] Originally by: Johncrab Awesome report Hardin... as usual. Wish you the best of luck for what comes next UK. Have to say though, that I find disapointing you guys chose such high profile pirate corps/alliances to help you defend Unity. Think most of us (outsiders that have been cheering for UK all this time) have a hard time buying this issue. Was it worth throwing away one highly respected UK's doctrine (to fight against pirates), in order to defend Unity at all costs? Anti-piracy is not U'K doctrine, but it is something most of the members feel very strongly about. U'K members are not allowed to pirate. All of the allies who helped U'K in this war asked to assist after seeing CVA mass a huge array of forces against us. We did not 'choose' any of them. Those that did join the U'K side were all honourable and well regarded combat veterans, and we certainly needed their help. All of the allies who assisted U'K in the war agreed to NRDS in U'K space. When you are faced with such numbers and have no support from the locals whom you historically protected then such help was welcome. If you have any suggestions as to whose help we should have taken as an alternative I am all ears ;)
zoolkhan Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.06.10 06:57:00 - [173] Edited by: zoolkhan on 10/06/2007 07:02:59 you protect them, clear the pipes repair their posses repeadetely and that is ok. During that time you may even get a "thanks guys" in local if youre lucky. But usually the constant policing and assistance is taken for granted. you do something that is as bad as chosing a known pirate as ally - still you protect people, by enforcing NRDS amongst them in the area where you have the say - and all good things you have ever done, are washed away and you go from blue to red in an instant. ... i guess we have to accept this reality. EDIT: i was never so naive to expect help from people who can barely help themselfes i do not really hold the passivity of our neighbours in that matter against them, as they first and only wafe of pilots would have been turned to wrecks on the first day. i just had higher expectations into their ability to see things from our angle just for a moment before going red. ushra'khan had little choice. And yes - it was worth it U'K recruit! ..we come for our people..
Eiro Minmatar ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.06.10 10:37:00 - [174] Excellent writeup! A pleasure to read. Just one nitpick: Originally by: Hardin sounding the death knell for ISS We're still alive and kicking, although certainly changed and no longer in Catch/Providence ;) Eiro
Pouncer Minmatar Dark and Light inc. D-L	Posted - 2007.06.10 15:37:00 - [175] Originally by: Maggot All of the allies who assisted U'K in the war agreed to NRDS in U'K space. Just thought I'd point out that's a rather meaningless gesture, given that: 1. The pirates were free to set anyone red without regard to your own standings. 2. Your local allies lived in their own space instead of yours. We weren't the least bit surprised to see that ENH's first action after NAPing UK was to go after BOS towers instead of CVA's.
Mistress Suffering Einherjar Rising	Posted - 2007.06.10 17:46:00 - [176] Unsurprising really, since we didn't approach UK with an offer of alliance, merely an exchange of "I won't shoot at you" to cease distracting them from the war they already had on hand. At that time we had an active wardec (empire and otherwise) against BoS so you and SR were indeed the targets of choice. We never made any shared military arrangement with UK whatsoever, but unlike some of their neighbors, simply felt they were getting the shaft and lent a hand when opportunity permitted. I'm glad to have done so, and think a lot of people really showed their true colors over the course of this conflict.
Johncrab Minmatar Typo Corp	Posted - 2007.06.10 17:56:00 - [177] Thanks for the replys and clarifications Maggot and zoolkhan. And no, I have no suggestions As I mentioned, I'm just an outsider reading the news about the struggle for a long time and didn't understood how you guys eneded up fighting on the same side.
Didier Oriol Einherjar Rising	Posted - 2007.06.11 05:54:00 - [178] Nice Writeup Hardin... A little biased, but that is to be expected, seeing as how one person can only have perspective from their own side of the conflict. Fighting vs CVA Allies et al was always good fun Look forward to shooting you guys in the future! Fly safe... but please don't warp your pods out ;)
Caya Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.06.11 08:01:00 - [179] Excellent work and even better report. My only wish is there was emperor watching your achievements.
Redbad Minmatar Tempered Steel Legion	Posted - 2007.06.11 09:30:00 - [180] Such fine piece of work needs a special place on you website CCP, that it not be lost in the Maelstrom that is called CAOD! RB join us today!

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