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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.06.11 17:02:00 -
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Pirates are constantly posting with ideas on how to get the majority of the EVE player population out of high-sec and into low-sec. As one of these "normal" players, its time we fight back with ideas on how to get pirates out of low-sec and into 0.0 where the alliances can destroy them with the rest of the riff-raff.
Suggestions?
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Vitrael
Stormriders
Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2007.06.11 17:09:00 -
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Pirate? Yes.
Normal player? Yes.
Sorry, I'm not going anywhere.
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Rooker
Lysian Enterprises
United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2007.06.11 17:29:00 -
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There *are* pirates in 0.0. Some of the most fun fights I had out there were with pirate corps that hopped on the bandwagon and flew south.
This one, in particular... <3 Snigg
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Anaalys Fluuterby
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.06.11 17:30:00 -
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Why bother?
Let them live where they live and us where we live. Its not like something *HAS* to be done to "fix" LowSec 
Sandbox, remember? Leave it that way.
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Major Stormer
Caldari
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.11 17:31:00 -
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Edited by: Major Stormer on 11/06/2007 17:29:57
You are just a horrible little troll. You said yourself you never go to low sec, how about you shut your ******* little gob and keep your trap out of chat about places where you never visit!
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.06.11 17:32:00 -
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 Originally by: Major Stormer
Edited by: Major Stormer on 11/06/2007 17:29:57
You are just a horrible little troll. You said yourself you never go to low sec, how about you shut your ******* little gob and keep your trap out of chat about places where you never visit!
Had a bad day? 
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Nanobotter Mk2
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Posted - 2007.06.11 17:35:00 -
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I would agree it seems to me that there are loads of pirates begging CCP to push empire players into low sec for them to have easy targets all day long, I think the real answer is pushing pirates out to 0.0 atleast in some way.
1( make sec hits count and mean something. No high sec or low sec station should let you dock once you are below -4 status, and you should get bigger sec hits for blowing up ships. This way priates would atleast need to travel to 0.0 to find a station, and low sec will be more dangerous for them as thay can no longer insta dock.
2) remove penalty of taking sec hit when killing pirates. Anyone with -2 or worse = no sec hit when killed in low sec.
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Ryas Nia
Minmatar
Stormriders
Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2007.06.11 17:46:00 -
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/me wants an ignore user option on the forums :(
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.11 17:48:00 -
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Pirates already are in 0.0. Just not every single pirate.
Whats your point?
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Nanobotter Mk2
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Posted - 2007.06.11 17:59:00 -
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Quote:
Pirates already are in 0.0. Just not every single pirate.
Whats your point?
Do you read? I think his point was that more pirates should go there then. I mean there are empire pve players in low sec, but pirates keep asking for more to be forced out what is their point.... there are plenty of corps in 0.0 foir pirates to pirate so if they don;t like low sec goto 0.0 seems to be the point, instead of asking for more ducks to be put in the barrel....
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Tsanse Kinske
WeMeanYouKnowHarm
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Posted - 2007.06.11 18:16:00 -
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How can we get more 0.0 residents back to Jita, that's what I want to know.
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.06.11 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Major Stormer
Edited by: Major Stormer on 11/06/2007 17:29:57
You are just a horrible little troll. You said yourself you never go to low sec, how about you shut your ******* little gob and keep your trap out of chat about places where you never visit!
Had a bad day?
in your face angry man.
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Stratocus
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Posted - 2007.06.11 18:17:00 -
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Edited by: Stratocus on 11/06/2007 18:16:09
ok how about this, make security status matter in low sec. have concord run periodic patrols into low sec, once every day or so, and let concord attack anyone with -5.0. all the risk in low sec is shouldered by the new players trying move between high and low sec. give the gate campers something to worry about.
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Serret Nevets
Puppets on Steroids
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Posted - 2007.06.11 18:18:00 -
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Edited by: Serret Nevets on 11/06/2007 18:18:44
Hey Mensa man, just to clarify... low sec= low security
What happened, did a big bad bully blow up your Bantam over the weekend in an area you knew you shouldn't go to cause you can't defend yourself?
get over yourself
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Ferocious FeAr
Eternity INC.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.11 18:20:00 -
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Edited by: Ferocious FeAr on 11/06/2007 18:19:44
Pirates prey on the weak.
Don't hate me, learn to love me |
Douger
Minmatar
Luddites Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.06.11 18:21:00 -
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Originally by: Major Stormer
Edited by: Major Stormer on 11/06/2007 17:29:57
You are just a horrible little troll. You said yourself you never go to low sec, how about you shut your ****** little gob and keep your trap out of chat about places where you never visit!
Just a thought... There are several good decaffinated brands on the market...
Douger
-Douger
To boldly learn what no man has learned before!
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.11 18:21:00 -
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Originally by: Nanobotter Mk2
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Pirates already are in 0.0. Just not every single pirate.
Whats your point?
Do you read? I think his point was that more pirates should go there then. I mean there are empire pve players in low sec, but pirates keep asking for more to be forced out what is their point.... there are plenty of corps in 0.0 foir pirates to pirate so if they don;t like low sec goto 0.0 seems to be the point, instead of asking for more ducks to be put in the barrel....
I read. Do you?
He said "How do we get pirates out of low-sec and in to 0.0?". The answer is- there already are pirates in 0.0. The biggest and most powerful pirate groups are 0.0 groups, not low-sec.
If what he really meant is "How do we get all the pirates out of low sec?", then the answer is "put in CONCORD". Because having piracy is part and parcel of it being low-security.
The "how do we get people in to low-sec?" question is an entirely different question. The point of it is that there is nothing in low-sec to make it more desirable than high-sec or 0.0. Either you're a high-sec person, or you're a 0.0 person. No-one wants to live in low-sec, because theres no real point.
The OP's question is nonsensical. The question he is attempting (poorly) to lampoon actually is a question with some discursive merit.
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.06.11 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: Serret Nevets
Hey Mensa man, just to clarify... low sec= low security
What happened, did a big bad bully blow up your Bantam over the weekend in an area you knew you should go to cause you can't defend yourself?
I'll assume you're referring to me; I know what low-sec means, it does not mean, however, no-sec. Pirates are not being punished for being -10 flying around empire space, even if said empire space is on the outer fringes. It would be like Blue-Beard the pirate anchoring just outside Port Royale the day after he sunk some English Gallions. He's get blown out of the water.
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Fink Angel
Caldari
The Merry Men
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Posted - 2007.06.11 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: Ferocious FeAr
Edited by: Ferocious FeAr on 11/06/2007 18:19:44
Pirates prey on the weak.
OMG, is that Ron Jeremy dressed as Mario in your sig? You scare me! 
(Plus I've now got that Mario "Itsa me, Mario" phrase from the N64 game going around and around in my head. Aaaargh!)
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Baccala
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Posted - 2007.06.11 18:27:00 -
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Pirates can't beat alliances, they don't have space or resources to stay in 0.0, so they sit on the edge and dec wars, gank those going into 0.0... always having that safe jump back to low sec.
It's the law of the pirate... the safest and laziest tactics to grief your opponent.
Low sec is full of scraps... it stinks there, it reaks of rat droppings that aren't worth your time and effort. Low sec rewards suck for nearly being at the same risk of 0.0. Let the pirates own it... cuz no one else wants it.
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MrTripps
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.11 18:30:00 -
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Yeah, cause low sec is already so over crowded.
Pirates do go to 0.0 to get ISK and to raise the sec status so they can get back into empire and lower it again. Wash, rinse, repeat.
"Life is nothing but a competition to be the criminal rather than the victim."
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Shiner BockBeer
Go Go Gadget ForumPostingAlt
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Posted - 2007.06.11 18:46:00 -
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More important question to OP:
Why should we?
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Janu Hull
Caldari
Order of Z Industries
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Posted - 2007.06.11 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: Stratocus
Edited by: Stratocus on 11/06/2007 18:16:09
ok how about this, make security status matter in low sec. have concord run periodic patrols into low sec, once every day or so, and let concord attack anyone with -5.0. all the risk in low sec is shouldered by the new players trying move between high and low sec. give the gate campers something to worry about.
I like this one. :) Conversely, have CONCORD come to the aid of players with +2.0 or better sec status, no matter what system they're in.
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Destiny Calling
Amarr
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.11 18:57:00 -
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I'm a pirate not even candy mountain could tempt me out of low sec. I like being there, and like blinking
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Selene Fenestre
Lemuria Prospecting
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Posted - 2007.06.11 19:00:00 -
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Edited by: Selene Fenestre on 11/06/2007 19:00:48
Edited by: Selene Fenestre on 11/06/2007 19:00:01
Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Pirates are not being punished for being -10 flying around empire space, even if said empire space is on the outer fringes.
I suspect its actually a lot harder than you realise being -10 in Empire.
Edit: Having comma issues today :-/
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Lucy Skylancer
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Posted - 2007.06.11 19:16:00 -
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Edited by: Lucy Skylancer on 11/06/2007 19:21:38
Low-sec:
Originally by: Haffrage
Low security space is exactly that - low security. It's space that the NPC empires claim ownership to, but cannot protect and enforce laws.?
That's the whole idea about it. The risk to be attacked by another player is supposed to be there and a lot higher than in high-sec. If players want protection in low-sec, they have to care about that themselves.
Because high sec is easy mode, the lvl.5 missions won't also be there, but in low-sec.
People are supposed to go out to low sec. to interact more with other players, cooperate more, get away from the mindless grind. ( The server doesn't care that there are e.g. 5 people in a low sec system and 80 people in a high-sec system, as long as numbers aren't in the hundreds. Load-balancing. CCP puts more low-sec systems on one node than high-sec systems, so that high-sec gets more CPU power and that's it. So from a technical view it doesn't matter much, were you are, as long as you don't blob up in a system like in Jita or like in some 0.0 battles. )
People want to get more players into lowsec, because of it's different and more challenging gameplay.
Extreme carebears say that they want that challenging gameplay removed, before they go into low sec., so I'd say they completely miss the point. 
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Princess Jodi
Vendetta Underground
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.06.11 19:25:00 -
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Pirates are not honorable PVP'rs looking for a fight - they are ganking scumbuckets who just want easy kills. As long as they get easy kills in low-sec space, they will stay there.
So: 1.> 0.0 space is protected by Alliances, therefore Pirates don't wanna go there.
2.> Empire has Concord, which will kill Pirates.
Therefore: 3.> Pirates can exist only in low-sec space.
If you don't want Pirates around, you've gotta police the low-sec space yourself. Whap them in the head with a stick a few times, and even the dumbest of them will learn to go somewhere else.
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NightmareX
Caldari
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.11 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: Baccala
Pirates can't beat alliances, they don't have space or resources to stay in 0.0, so they sit on the edge and dec wars, gank those going into 0.0... always having that safe jump back to low sec.
Pirates can't beat alliances? LOL, then you haven't seen our fights in Geminate against Roadkill and Smash alliance.
But we aren't fighting to take over any spaces, we are only fighting to have fun and to kill all day long
Tbh, INFOD is big enough to be able to fight against whatever alliance in EVE. Nothing scares us
Normally we have some gangs going in low sec, but we are mostly fighting in 0.0 space now.
Infinitus Odium - We Are The Bringers Of Hatred |
Ferocious FeAr
Eternity INC.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.11 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Fink Angel
Originally by: Ferocious FeAr
Edited by: Ferocious FeAr on 11/06/2007 18:19:44
Pirates prey on the weak.
OMG, is that Ron Jeremy dressed as Mario in your sig? You scare me!
(Plus I've now got that Mario "Itsa me, Mario" phrase from the N64 game going around and around in my head. Aaaargh!)
Sweet, my job is done!
Don't hate me, learn to love me |
Slayton Ford
Vindicate and Deliverance
ASGARDIAN EMPIRE
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Posted - 2007.06.11 19:53:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX
Tbh, INFOD is big enough to be able to fight against whatever alliance in EVE. Nothing scares us
I really wonder how true this is as I see INFOD harrasing Smash/RK in the north rather then BoB in the south. This holds true to many pirate corps/alliances. How many pirate corps/alliances raid Delve/Querious/Fountain rather then Geminate/Scalding Pass/Catch?
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