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Wayward Hooligan
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.13 19:39:00 -
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What I always fail to understand is why the empire dwellers who hate pirates always want the devs to help them out.
Why can't they band together and go take back some low sec space?
It's very possible and they have all the resources in the world to do it.
40 carebears in HAC/Command/Recons could keep a section of low sec more or less secure once they learned to fly as a gang.
Make low sec more valueable.
High sec gets l1, l2 and l3 agents, low sec gets l1 l2 l3 and l4 agents and 0.0 gets l1 l2 l3 l4 and l5 agents.
Move ice out of empire into low sec/0.0.
Move some of the uber minerals out of 0.0 and into low sec.
These kinds of changes wouldn't force people to move anywhere but they would make low sec a hell of a lot more valueable. Groups would probably want to be there for the isk/loot rewards.
Might actually see groups of carebears playing together in an organized fashing.
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Khamal Jolstien
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Posted - 2007.07.13 20:59:00 -
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I don't see the problem. I honestly do not. Low security space is low security space; what do you expect to happen if you're wondering about? Bring some friends and you'll deter the nubbin pirates.
This isn't WOW. For the most part, we aren't children and the devs aren't being paid to babysit us or bring us milk and cookies when we get killed in low sec.
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Felysta Sandorn
Caldari
System-Lords
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Posted - 2007.07.13 21:02:00 -
[123]
Page 8 necro for the lose... I thought I ended this discussion! 
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.07.13 21:36:00 -
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SiJira <-- this is the person you want to ban for the necro. Everyone boo SiJira.
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Felysta Sandorn
Caldari
System-Lords
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Posted - 2007.07.13 21:57:00 -
[125]
 Originally by: Derovius Vaden
SiJira <-- this is the person you want to ban for the necro. Everyone boo SiJira.
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Tekterra
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Posted - 2007.07.13 22:28:00 -
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Did I hear some one said normal player take sec hit when killing a pirate in none 0.0 system? This indeed needs to be changed. Why because if a pirate is allow to kill normal players then normal plaeyrs should be allow to kill pirates with out penalty. My current understanding is you can't enter higher security system when your security rating is too low. What dose this mean? dose it mean if you hit -5 security rating you can't even enter 0.5 system? Will concord attack you on sight if you do enter higher security system? If this is how it is now then the system is not so bad. In another word it would seem that 0.0-0.4 is pirate world and 0.5-1.0 if normal player world. There fore entering 0.4 system is like invading pirate teritory.
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ghosttr
Amarr
ARK-CORP
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.13 22:31:00 -
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Edited by: ghosttr on 13/07/2007 22:31:34
The reason is that most people who claim to be pirates dont have the balls to go anywhere they cant immediately hide. Unless they have a station in every system and docking rights they wont come.
& WTF is up with the necro
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Do not read this thread!!!
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.07.14 14:53:00 -
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Originally by: ghosttr
Edited by: ghosttr on 13/07/2007 22:31:34
The reason is that most people who claim to be pirates dont have the balls to go anywhere they cant immediately hide. Unless they have a station in every system and docking rights they wont come.
& WTF is up with the necro
or maybe they cant afford to be going up against bubbles?
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The Hooch
Minmatar
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.14 15:43:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Pirates are constantly posting with ideas on how to get the majority of the EVE player population out of high-sec and into low-sec. As one of these "normal" players, its time we fight back with ideas on how to get pirates out of low-sec and into 0.0 where the alliances can destroy them with the rest of the riff-raff.
Suggestions?
Cheese and bread to go along with your constant whining? What, that little hole you have down there in the southeast of the map have too many pirates and bad guys for you? (yes, I am keeping tack you, so when I have a dull moment I will hunt you)
This game is nearly 4 years old, you are 6 months and you ***** more than anyone I have seen. Grow some nads and learn to fight or join a corp with low sec connections that will protect your lame self.
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Oki Riverson
Amarr
Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2007.07.14 17:30:00 -
[130]
Going nowhere :)
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Hotice
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Posted - 2007.07.14 17:41:00 -
[131]
Originally by: The Hooch
Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Pirates are constantly posting with ideas on how to get the majority of the EVE player population out of high-sec and into low-sec. As one of these "normal" players, its time we fight back with ideas on how to get pirates out of low-sec and into 0.0 where the alliances can destroy them with the rest of the riff-raff.
Suggestions?
Cheese and bread to go along with your constant whining? What, that little hole you have down there in the southeast of the map have too many pirates and bad guys for you? (yes, I am keeping tack you, so when I have a dull moment I will hunt you)
This game is nearly 4 years old, you are 6 months and you ***** more than anyone I have seen. Grow some nads and learn to fight or join a corp with low sec connections that will protect your lame self.
Now listen to the all mighty tough guy who just killed that scary Badger II! 
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.07.14 18:19:00 -
[132]
Edited by: SiJira on 14/07/2007 18:19:12
seriously though
taking sec hits for killing a pirate just cause he isnt fully outlawed is a joke
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The Hooch
Minmatar
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.14 18:24:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Hotice
Originally by: The Hooch
Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Pirates are constantly posting with ideas on how to get the majority of the EVE player population out of high-sec and into low-sec. As one of these "normal" players, its time we fight back with ideas on how to get pirates out of low-sec and into 0.0 where the alliances can destroy them with the rest of the riff-raff.
Suggestions?
Cheese and bread to go along with your constant whining? What, that little hole you have down there in the southeast of the map have too many pirates and bad guys for you? (yes, I am keeping tack you, so when I have a dull moment I will hunt you)
This game is nearly 4 years old, you are 6 months and you ***** more than anyone I have seen. Grow some nads and learn to fight or join a corp with low sec connections that will protect your lame self.
Now listen to the all mighty tough guy who just killed that scary Badger II!
Why yes I did, and made about 15 million from it too. It's how I make a living, by shooting war targets in empire. But I am not above belt raiding either in low sec or 0.0 .
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.07.15 18:55:00 -
[134]
Originally by: The Hooch
Originally by: Hotice
Originally by: The Hooch
Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Pirates are constantly posting with ideas on how to get the majority of the EVE player population out of high-sec and into low-sec. As one of these "normal" players, its time we fight back with ideas on how to get pirates out of low-sec and into 0.0 where the alliances can destroy them with the rest of the riff-raff.
Suggestions?
Cheese and bread to go along with your constant whining? What, that little hole you have down there in the southeast of the map have too many pirates and bad guys for you? (yes, I am keeping tack you, so when I have a dull moment I will hunt you)
This game is nearly 4 years old, you are 6 months and you ***** more than anyone I have seen. Grow some nads and learn to fight or join a corp with low sec connections that will protect your lame self.
Now listen to the all mighty tough guy who just killed that scary Badger II!
Why yes I did, and made about 15 million from it too. It's how I make a living, by shooting war targets in empire. But I am not above belt raiding either in low sec or 0.0 .
privateers still exist?
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Capt Rob
Minmatar
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.15 19:02:00 -
[135]
every 1 in 0.0 is a pirate.....duh
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Kharadran Sullath
Caldari
IntoXication Inc
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Posted - 2007.07.15 19:06:00 -
[136]
Let's make necroing a punishable offense.
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Feng Schui
Minmatar
The Ninja Coalition
New Eve Order
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Posted - 2007.07.15 19:34:00 -
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I kind of liked the idea of at least allowing "outlaws" being able to enter high sec space.
At least, let them enter high sec, but have to pay a "toll fee" to use the stargates and to dock at stations.
And they can be shot on sight ofc.
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Moridin920
Gallente
Dust Echoes
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.16 07:29:00 -
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Edited by: Moridin920 on 16/07/2007 07:32:09
Originally by: Nanobotter Mk2
I would agree it seems to me that there are loads of pirates begging CCP to push empire players into low sec for them to have easy targets all day long, I think the real answer is pushing pirates out to 0.0 atleast in some way.
1( make sec hits count and mean something. No high sec or low sec station should let you dock once you are below -4 status, and you should get bigger sec hits for blowing up ships. This way priates would atleast need to travel to 0.0 to find a station, and low sec will be more dangerous for them as thay can no longer insta dock.
2) remove penalty of taking sec hit when killing pirates. Anyone with -2 or worse = no sec hit when killed in low sec.
I think the real answer is just what CCP is doing; ignoring the requests of the pirates. Just like they are ignoring all the carebears who tell CCP they should nerf pirates. Lately it seems like a lot of people have gone from defending their own style of play to aggressively attacking the styles of others. Yeah, I'm a pirate. Yeah, I want more people in low sec so I have more targets. Doesn't mean I want CCP to nerf high sec in some way.
Besides we already can't instadock. 30 seconds, remember? Might not seem like a lot to you but when the guy has a friends with recon ships in the system it's a long time to wait. Not letting us dock except for in 0.0 is a little dumb because then we would all be in the small amount of 0.0 that is NPC controlled. We can't just dock in random stations that we don't have docking rights in, and we can't pirate in our own alliance space (if our alliance even has outposts).
As for #2, just wait until you are attacked first. If you are actively seeking out the guy with a -3 security rating and kill him, then to me you are deserving of a sec hit; you engaged in an act of piracy yourself, regardless of how much you claim to be an anti-pirate. Really it's not that hard, the first thing he will do is turn the warp scramble on, and then you click your weapons. He isn't going to normally have a full volley of fire on you right off the bat, so don't worry too much about losing that advantage (first thing we do is warp scramble and web if applicable). If he is just starting to fire on you before warp scrambling you, chances are you are going to be dead before you can warp, fight back, or do anything else (instapopping ftw), so don't even worry about killing them, period. =D
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.07.18 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Feng Schui
I kind of liked the idea of at least allowing "outlaws" being able to enter high sec space.
At least, let them enter high sec, but have to pay a "toll fee" to use the stargates and to dock at stations.
And they can be shot on sight ofc.
toll fee
that doesnt make sense you dont let criminals walk around just cause they pay up
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Jacques Danton
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.07.18 16:33:00 -
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Edited by: Jacques Danton on 18/07/2007 16:39:45
Originally by: Chelone
Here's an idea. Make it 100% legal to attack anyone with even the smallest negative concord standing, anywhere in 0.1-0.4.
You pirates want us to come to lowsec? Great, take away the security hit we'd take for aggroing you, so we can spank your ass good.
Exactly! What sort of non-sense is it to see a pirate that you know will hunt you down but have to wait for him to make the first move (thus engage you when the cirumstances are best for HIM) or suffer a sec hit. What sort of moronity is that? If a pirate sees a Caldari railgun-fitted ship the Caldari is screwed unless he takes the first shot to make use of his range bonuses for example or he can chose to wait to get shot first at a range hardly beneficial for him, as a small example.
Additionally - pirates with negative sec rating should NOT be allowed to dock in low-sec stations, why are known criminals allowed to dock in safely to save their sorry ass, definitely not in corporate stations of any sort they shoudn't...
The way I see it pirates have it pretty easy - with a bit of rat hunting they dictate rules of engagement or the stupid system penalises you (the carebear) otherwise (i.e. the sec system in low sec space seems to favor the pirates of all people) and they can safely dock and use stations as if nothing happened... total non-sense.
I'm all for making a pirate's life "balanced" as in attach a real cost to it - make pirates unable to dock in low-sec stations unless they are non-corporate brothels of sorts, make pirates unable to issue insurance for their ships in corporate stations (which legit corporation would openly deal with known criminals, eh?), make pirates unable to use clone facilities in such stations for the same reason too. Why not having the corporation rating count in as well - if someone is a member of a known pirate organization why should it matter that his security rating is -1.0 for example? If the corporate rating is negative - let people fry the bastards on the spot! If not account-attached penalties make the char-related penalties for choosin the way of the criminal stack up as a price to pay. And to avoid using alts to bypass the whole penalty if every implemented - why not have Concord reduce the sec rating of alts dealing with criminals? A person caught collaborating with proven criminals with a record and otherwise shot on the spot should get their rating reduced as a minimum - make alts usage not that easy!
And why is Concord paying criminals for ratting? Would the police pat on the shoulder and pay someone they would gladly blow to pieces if they met personally under different circumstances?
Low-sec is ridiculous in many of the ways it's set and I see very little reason to go there unless I have to and usually I don't. Oh, and the local CHAT channel "magic" recon-tool that tells everyone that I've entered the system and exactly who I am, how old my char is and who I work for or that I'm still in the station they saw me enter is a "great" stimulus for me to go to low-sec too...
And why hunting somebody with a nice bounty on his head that is not -5.0 should penalize me in ANY way too - bounty hunters are the good guys usually...
Criminals in this game are hardly EVER treated as such!
Frankly I prefer 0.0 than low-sec as I think that low-sec actually favors the pirates more than the "carebears".
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.07.18 17:41:00 -
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relax the idea is that even if you are an antipirate once you start fighting losec the only place to go is 0.0
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