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Nyx STeeLGamers
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Posted - 2007.11.11 18:41:00 -
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look at 99% of the noob alliances killboard, and then take a look on all ships, nothing is imballanced, well the amarr WAS imballanced, but then i heard 25% more damage to the new t2 bs : ))) lovely.. i dont fly minnie, but i love to hunt vagas down, there is so many funny ways to take down a vaga:P and the vaga :D web it and neut it :PP so funny lol
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joshmorris
Ravenous Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.11 18:55:00 -
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Edited by: joshmorris on 11/11/2007 18:55:38
Originally by: Ryas Nia overload web == dead vaga kinetic missles == dead vaga or vaga that runs away huginn/rapier == dead vaga sensor damps == dead vaga or one that runs away ..... ..... .....
Its not our fault you suck.
Kinetic missles = him running away Overload web = vaga slowing down for a fraction of a second until the momentom carrys it outa overload web range. Huggin/rapier = every1 spamming them instead of vaga in a few months. Sensor damps = Not anymore.
Nerf poly rigs NOT the vaga. This means that everything which isnt suppost to speed tanks doesnt AND means that u dont get them insanely *** vagas.
And/or make small/medium web drones they wont be overpowered they will just make nano ships shi* themselfs a lil so they be more carefull or run, (this will give slow gallente blaster shipsa chance to reduce the vagas speed to a point where they can get close to do ANY form of damage BUT if the vaga is clever (not just vaga any other nano ships) clever meaning experienced not just any old noob ( so its not a I win button) then they can get away/pop teh drones before harm comes.
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Pesadel0
Ordem dos Templarios Pax Atlantis
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Posted - 2007.11.11 19:04:00 -
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No.
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ViperVenom
Labteck Corporation LTD. Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2007.11.11 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: Gallente McNuggets Nuff said.
No other HAC (or other ship) comes even close to the Vagabond in over-poweredness. It has speed, DPS and tank.
Just look at 99% of the alliances killboards and see how many peeps are flying it to see that every noob and his iWin button are flying one.
This is a side-effect of the Nano nerf. Now peeps all fly the only remaining nano ships - Vaga and to a lesser extent, Nanophoon.
Time to plug the hole. Let the noobs learn how to fly ships that actually, you know, involve a bit of risk and brain power.
Moved from Eve General Discussion to Ships and Modules -Eldo
Well let me hit a few key points about the Vaga..
1)It cost a arm and a leg not saying that it should be good cuz it cost so much just saying. 2) Vaga tank is crappy. Kin missiles Pwn it 3) Vaga DPS is crappy.. you can not hit your target going over 5600m/s They have to cut odd mwd to engage in a fight. If they can't win they Kite. The a Nano Selip does the same thing but it has nasty DPS. 4) Vaga fights in fall off. Heck most if not all Minnie ships fight in fall off. Wich kills dps. 5) Huggin will pwn a vaga.
There u have it. 4)
Boo CCP!!!!
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Cambarus
Kissaki Confederation
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Posted - 2007.11.11 21:41:00 -
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I myself don't fly a vaga, and I've fought them quite a few times, not once thinking that they're overpowered.
The ship has horrible dps, and tbh if you're dying to a solo vaga in anything bigger then a cruiser then at you.
If it's going fast enough not to get hit then it's also going too fast to hit you, people whine about there not being enough enough counters to a vaga, but fit a tracking disruptor on ANY ship and the vaga becomes useless, how's that for a counter?
As for having the ability to run away, any ceptor and most dictors can do the same. If you want to catch a fast ship then you gotta bring a hughin/rapier or a group of faster ships, this is how it works for all the really fast ships so why should the vaga, a hac designed specifically to be ridiculously fast, be any different?
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Brutus Proqqus
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Posted - 2007.11.12 09:01:00 -
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Edited by: Brutus Proqqus on 12/11/2007 09:03:42 Edited by: Brutus Proqqus on 12/11/2007 09:03:27 I don't think the Vaga is overpowered. I just think all the other HAC's are udnerpowered. The Vaga fills in tis role as HEAVY Assault Cruise perfectly. The other HAC's just fail to deliver imo. The Zealot is the amarr version of the Vaga if you ask me but it just sucks ass compared to it. IMO Don't nerf the vaga but give a boost to the other HAC's instead. Same for AF's. These ships are meant to be dps heavy and in practice they fail at this point i think.
Oh and why the hell is every1 comparing every single ship and their mother's to the vagabond? Comparing the speed of an interceptor to the speed of a vaga is just ********. And saying another minmatar ship can own a vaga is ******** too. Only proves minmatar are even more OP.
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Inflexible
Rytiri Lva
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Posted - 2007.11.12 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: Brutus Proqqus The Vaga fills in tis role as HEAVY Assault Cruise perfectly.
I fail to see how Vaga fills role of HEAVY ASSAULT cruiser. I'd call it Light Escape Cruiser instead. Deimos is something that can be called heavy assault cruiser .
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Malvahne
Sativah Holandica
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Posted - 2007.11.12 10:34:00 -
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selling tissues for all your crying needs. just 3 isk per unit.
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Satura
Caldari Mucho Dolor The Insomniacs
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Posted - 2007.11.12 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: Inflexible
Originally by: Brutus Proqqus The Vaga fills in tis role as HEAVY Assault Cruise perfectly.
I fail to see how Vaga fills role of HEAVY ASSAULT cruiser. I'd call it Light Escape Cruiser instead. Deimos is something that can be called heavy assault cruiser .
Deimos = sick close range dps. Vaga = sick speed moderate to low dps. ----------------- Where is the problem? Want all ships to be the same or what? I can say the same thing about Crow. But i don't think they are imbalanced. Tbh almost nothing needs nerfing, instead some ships could use small buffs. |
Molly Neuro
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Posted - 2007.11.12 12:11:00 -
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Originally by: Depp Knight
Originally by: Ryas Nia overload web == dead vaga kinetic missles == dead vaga or vaga that runs away huginn/rapier == dead vaga sensor damps == dead vaga or one that runs away .....
Its not our fault you suck.
Overload web? If its a faction web then yeh if not = mid slots are all blown up.
Kinetic missiles does not = a vaga dead it however = Vaga running away.
Huggin = yeh true, one ship from one race can hurt and even kill the vaga. Maybe, I have seen a vaga go under 50ms because it was webbed to hell and still kill a rapier, harpy and I think a caracal. No joke, tank, dps too good.
Sensor Damps again does not = dead vaga is just means the vaga runs away.
The problem is the vaga has a good tank as itĘs speed tank with good shield regen makes the tank very good, while having great dps. It can be used in "ALL" situations, from fleet to solo. It can be used as tackler, support pwner or bs slayer but the biggest problem is not the vagas versatility, nor dps, nor tank its the fact that it can flee. If the vaga canĘt kill you it will just run away.
Only exception is 2 large neuts, if the vaga pilot cannot react quickly enough it will die. But not many pilots out there fit 2 large neuts.
BoB's recruitment standards appear to have slipped.......
"I have seen a vaga go under 50ms because it was webbed to hell and still kill a rapier, harpy and I think a caracal. No joke, tank, dps too good."
You have to be kidding - the vaga did 50m/s and managed to kill all three? I call BS on that, either that or they were all idiots. If the rapier knew what they were doing the vaga would be on the edge of falloff even with barrage, and the odds are the rapier had either extenders or damps -either of which would make it very unlikely for the vaga to win. Especially with a caracal hitting it with kinetic missiles.
"The problem is the vaga has a good tank as itĘs speed tank with good shield regen makes the tank very good, while having great dps. It can be used in "ALL" situations, from fleet to solo. It can be used as tackler, support pwner or bs slayer but the biggest problem is not the vagas versatility, nor dps, nor tank its the fact that it can flee. If the vaga canĘt kill you it will just run away."
Vaga does not have "great dps" it has moderate dps at best - please go fly one for a while and then come back to talk about it. Vaga must slow down to hit anything and must keep range (barrage) unless it knows 100% that the target doesn't have a web or friends on the way. It also does not have a "very good" tank - it's tank relies totally on speed - take that away and it dies.
"bs slayer"
I think your passion for nerfing the vaga has the better of you... No way is it a BS slayer, if you can get a BS in a belt, then you might be able to kill it assuming they can't perma tank you and don't have mates coming to rescue them. It's more of a "slow grinding" than a "slayer"
Vaga is a really well balanced ship imo - it does decent (but not great) damage, can avoid blobs and is a nice solo hunting ship. But you have to pick your targets, it relies totally on speed for it's tank, it's not hard to kill and it's not hard in a big ship to tank it. I'd treat a vaga in local with respect / hopeful anticipation depending on what I'm in - but it's not a ship to be terrified of.
Vaga catches you at a gate - warp off / go back to the gate - wait for the aggro and jump - he won't have a web Vaga catches you in a belt - if you can't kill it or tank it or wait on your friends coming to save you - you really need to pay better attention to local and your scanner.
on a side note - forcing someone to run away is a win, you don't have to get a killmail to win a fight. That flies in the face of most of the posters here but there you go |
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Brixer
Dai Dai Hai
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Posted - 2007.11.12 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Inflexible
Originally by: Brutus Proqqus The Vaga fills in tis role as HEAVY Assault Cruise perfectly.
I fail to see how Vaga fills role of HEAVY ASSAULT cruiser. I'd call it Light Escape Cruiser instead. Deimos is something that can be called heavy assault cruiser .
Lol, I want one of these Minnie LECs ..
On a more serious note.. Just nerf the Vaga too, because people don't know how to counter it. (Like drones from a myrm). Better yet.. Make the MWD chance based.. Yatzee online!
If someone didn't get the irony.. STOP nerfing everything!
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Odium47
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Posted - 2007.11.12 12:55:00 -
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God...what morons. Vagabond has no tanking ability. It only runs and shoot. By the way, you cant aim anything if you go radial at over 1300 m/s. Also, a MWD will increse its signature to over 900m. You dont need target painters for that! 220 mm has low tracking and with barrage it will be even lower. Not even the dual 180 mm can do any better. Vaga is such a killer because people who fly it, usually run away if they take considerable dmg. So flying a ship a lot it will improove your navigational skills as well as tactical skills, unlike the morons that always fly passive Drakes and calculate their shield rezielience everyday using EFT or simulating fights outside stations. Learn to fly you chumps! If Vaga is getting its speed skill nerfed i dont think there will be any reason to keep the ship in the game. CCP could easily pull it out, or replace it.
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Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2007.11.12 13:13:00 -
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im sure its been said before in this thread, but just to keep it fresh;
The vaga is the only minmattar ship that ACTUALLY plays all the roles that minmattar stand for, its fast, does okay dmg and cant tank.
its like nerfing the blaster dominix because it does too much dmg and plays all gallante roles to well
Leave vaga alone!
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d026
THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.11.12 13:20:00 -
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the vaga would be fine with a 3-4k max velocity.
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Polkageist
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Posted - 2007.11.12 13:30:00 -
[165]
go cry somewhere else, play the game and shut up!
Cry with momma. Momma love you, momma will keep you happy.
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Divus
Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.11.12 13:49:00 -
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nah nugget, the vaga is fine, just go train it, lean to fly it, go kill something with it, and come here talk about it again. nuff said.
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Uninvited Guests
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Posted - 2007.11.12 16:05:00 -
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Here is the thing...
To put it short: Vagas are breaking the speed vs dps balance.
Do you hear people complain about interceptors being overpowered because they can pick their fights, speed tank and run when they wish? No. Why? Because an inty has a balanced dps compared to its survivability.
Now look at the vaga. Even with half azzed fittings it still reaches close to interceptor speeds, ontop of it it has a cruiser hull (even if its not a tough hull its still better then a frig hull) and does alot more dps then an inty. This here is the balance issue.
This is the exact reason why they nerfed nano domis. A battleship hull going 5-6km/s avoiding everything because stuff that can damage it cant hit it (heavier missile types and heavier turret type) and light stuff that can actually hit it does way too little damage against this type of hull. They removed the nano domi. Soon its time to remove some of the vagas speed or dps. It needs a tweak. Either it goes as fast as an interceptor but then nerf its dps or it goes a bit slower and then it can still have its dps. Either way it needs a little fix.
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Ione Hunt
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.11.12 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Here is the thing...
To put it short: Vagas are breaking the speed vs dps balance.
Do you hear people complain about interceptors being overpowered because they can pick their fights, speed tank and run when they wish? No. Why? Because an inty has a balanced dps compared to its survivability.
Now look at the vaga. Even with half azzed fittings it still reaches close to interceptor speeds, ontop of it it has a cruiser hull (even if its not a tough hull its still better then a frig hull) and does alot more dps then an inty. This here is the balance issue.
This is the exact reason why they nerfed nano domis. A battleship hull going 5-6km/s avoiding everything because stuff that can damage it cant hit it (heavier missile types and heavier turret type) and light stuff that can actually hit it does way too little damage against this type of hull. They removed the nano domi. Soon its time to remove some of the vagas speed or dps. It needs a tweak. Either it goes as fast as an interceptor but then nerf its dps or it goes a bit slower and then it can still have its dps. Either way it needs a little fix.
Then again, the Vaga has probably THE worst tank of all HACs, but you kinda forgot to mention that I guess _______________
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Uninvited Guests
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Posted - 2007.11.12 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: Ione Hunt
Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Here is the thing...
To put it short: Vagas are breaking the speed vs dps balance.
Do you hear people complain about interceptors being overpowered because they can pick their fights, speed tank and run when they wish? No. Why? Because an inty has a balanced dps compared to its survivability.
Now look at the vaga. Even with half azzed fittings it still reaches close to interceptor speeds, ontop of it it has a cruiser hull (even if its not a tough hull its still better then a frig hull) and does alot more dps then an inty. This here is the balance issue.
This is the exact reason why they nerfed nano domis. A battleship hull going 5-6km/s avoiding everything because stuff that can damage it cant hit it (heavier missile types and heavier turret type) and light stuff that can actually hit it does way too little damage against this type of hull. They removed the nano domi. Soon its time to remove some of the vagas speed or dps. It needs a tweak. Either it goes as fast as an interceptor but then nerf its dps or it goes a bit slower and then it can still have its dps. Either way it needs a little fix.
Then again, the Vaga has probably THE worst tank of all HACs, but you kinda forgot to mention that I guess
No I said it had a weak hull. Youre still totally missing the point. Read my post again.
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Ione Hunt
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.11.12 16:34:00 -
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Originally by: Lyria Skydancer
Originally by: Ione Hunt
Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Here is the thing...
To put it short: Vagas are breaking the speed vs dps balance.
Do you hear people complain about interceptors being overpowered because they can pick their fights, speed tank and run when they wish? No. Why? Because an inty has a balanced dps compared to its survivability.
Now look at the vaga. Even with half azzed fittings it still reaches close to interceptor speeds, ontop of it it has a cruiser hull (even if its not a tough hull its still better then a frig hull) and does alot more dps then an inty. This here is the balance issue.
This is the exact reason why they nerfed nano domis. A battleship hull going 5-6km/s avoiding everything because stuff that can damage it cant hit it (heavier missile types and heavier turret type) and light stuff that can actually hit it does way too little damage against this type of hull. They removed the nano domi. Soon its time to remove some of the vagas speed or dps. It needs a tweak. Either it goes as fast as an interceptor but then nerf its dps or it goes a bit slower and then it can still have its dps. Either way it needs a little fix.
Then again, the Vaga has probably THE worst tank of all HACs, but you kinda forgot to mention that I guess
No I said it had a weak hull. Youre still totally missing the point. Read my post again.
Well, all your saying is that the hull (tank??) is better than a frig hull, which makes it sound as if the tank would be ok even if speed gets nerfed. But compared to other HACs that tank SUCKS and if speed gets nerfed the Vaga is screwed because:
- It will do less damage than the other HACs - It will have the weakest tank of all other HACs - It won't have anything to make up for those two downsides anymore.. _______________
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.12 16:42:00 -
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Edited by: LUKEC on 12/11/2007 16:43:24 About vaga tanks... it does outtank zealot any day, since zealot can't tank at all due to moderate cap use of it's guns. Even fitting cap relay don't help at all. About cerb tank, most cerbs can't fit 2 LSE and active tanking cerb, yeah lol...
Did you see any tanked eagles recently? Any tanked muninns recently?
Oh wait, deimos outtanks it, ishtar outtanks it? Try fitting those ships, but when you realize 1 heavy neut or filling 1/3 slots with cap mods just to have some sort of tank...
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Tau IX
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Posted - 2007.11.12 16:44:00 -
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The amount of Vaga-defenders in this thread means something, and it less like that Vaga is balanced, more like 'dont touch it, I want to keep pwning, thats why I trained it!'
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Uninvited Guests
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Posted - 2007.11.12 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Ione Hunt
Originally by: Lyria Skydancer
Originally by: Ione Hunt
Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Here is the thing...
To put it short: Vagas are breaking the speed vs dps balance.
Do you hear people complain about interceptors being overpowered because they can pick their fights, speed tank and run when they wish? No. Why? Because an inty has a balanced dps compared to its survivability.
Now look at the vaga. Even with half azzed fittings it still reaches close to interceptor speeds, ontop of it it has a cruiser hull (even if its not a tough hull its still better then a frig hull) and does alot more dps then an inty. This here is the balance issue.
This is the exact reason why they nerfed nano domis. A battleship hull going 5-6km/s avoiding everything because stuff that can damage it cant hit it (heavier missile types and heavier turret type) and light stuff that can actually hit it does way too little damage against this type of hull. They removed the nano domi. Soon its time to remove some of the vagas speed or dps. It needs a tweak. Either it goes as fast as an interceptor but then nerf its dps or it goes a bit slower and then it can still have its dps. Either way it needs a little fix.
Then again, the Vaga has probably THE worst tank of all HACs, but you kinda forgot to mention that I guess
No I said it had a weak hull. Youre still totally missing the point. Read my post again.
Well, all your saying is that the hull (tank??) is better than a frig hull, which makes it sound as if the tank would be ok even if speed gets nerfed. But compared to other HACs that tank SUCKS and if speed gets nerfed the Vaga is screwed because:
- It will do less damage than the other HACs - It will have the weakest tank of all other HACs - It won't have anything to make up for those two downsides anymore..
Youre still missing the point. Even if its speed gets nerfed so it normally is slower then an inty its still faster then the other hacs.
Who cares about the actual tank? Even speed nerfed it will be able to tank a battleship, yes speed tank it. How can you say its tank sucks? Do you know how many people die in other hacs compared to a vagabond?
The vaga should be faster then all the other cruisers/hacs BUT slower then inties (if you dont wanna tweak the dps). This way inties can atleast tackle it without dying 99% of the time.
Its simply wrong to have a ship be invincible except when you bring a web-master with you.
Youre using the same argument as the people that wanted to keep their nano domis before the nano nerf:
"but when i speed tank it, it is paper thin!" "my nano domi doesnt outdamage a gank mega!"
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Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.11.12 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Tau IX The amount of Vaga-defenders in this thread means something, and it less like that Vaga is balanced, more like 'dont touch it, I want to keep pwning, thats why I trained it!'
I think its more to do with the fact that the vaga is fun to fly, like the stabber, you can go out solo in it, and get into fights, and make no mistake your not invincible flying a vaga its quite easy to lose them if your not very carefull, but it seems that if a ship is fun to fly, people who cant fly it will whine on the forums about it being overpowered and it will get nerfed, personally i dont think vaga is overpowered, given that everyone and anyone is running about in rapiers as much as people are running about in vaga's
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Ulstan
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.11.12 17:02:00 -
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Quote: The other HAC's just fail to deliver imo. The Zealot is the amarr version of the Vaga if you ask me but it just sucks ass compared to it. IMO Don't nerf the vaga but give a boost to the other HAC's instead. Same for AF's
I agree entirely. Nerf the polycarbs a bit to bring a nanoed vaga back into the realm of reason. Do *not* nerf the vaga, rather, buff the other HAC's. (And AF's too so people use them as well as interceptors). Let's see the other HAC's cruising around taking out t1 battleships, and then we'll have balance among the HAC class.
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Ione Hunt
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.11.12 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Gneeznow
Originally by: Tau IX The amount of Vaga-defenders in this thread means something, and it less like that Vaga is balanced, more like 'dont touch it, I want to keep pwning, thats why I trained it!'
I think its more to do with the fact that the vaga is fun to fly, like the stabber, you can go out solo in it, and get into fights, and make no mistake your not invincible flying a vaga its quite easy to lose them if your not very carefull, but it seems that if a ship is fun to fly, people who cant fly it will whine on the forums about it being overpowered and it will get nerfed, personally i dont think vaga is overpowered, given that everyone and anyone is running about in rapiers as much as people are running about in vaga's
That's exactly the point. It's one of the last few ships that allow you to PVP and escape blobs. The only thing that saves it is speed, take that away, and EVE Online will turn into BLOB Online
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Uninvited Guests
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Posted - 2007.11.12 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: Ione Hunt
Originally by: Gneeznow
Originally by: Tau IX The amount of Vaga-defenders in this thread means something, and it less like that Vaga is balanced, more like 'dont touch it, I want to keep pwning, thats why I trained it!'
I think its more to do with the fact that the vaga is fun to fly, like the stabber, you can go out solo in it, and get into fights, and make no mistake your not invincible flying a vaga its quite easy to lose them if your not very carefull, but it seems that if a ship is fun to fly, people who cant fly it will whine on the forums about it being overpowered and it will get nerfed, personally i dont think vaga is overpowered, given that everyone and anyone is running about in rapiers as much as people are running about in vaga's
That's exactly the point. It's one of the last few ships that allow you to PVP and escape blobs. The only thing that saves it is speed, take that away, and EVE Online will turn into BLOB Online
So its better that you have your vaga to avoid blob online while everyone else is stuck with blob online? Yeah that sounds right.
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EadTaes
Minmatar Veni Vidi Vici. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.12 18:02:00 -
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You nerf morons just suck. When will you understand that nerfing every thing will just have no end.
Right now it's nerf the vaga. Then people will find a new ships and it will be nerf that ship. and then nerf that other ship and so on.
If their is a problem you need to find a good constructive solution to it.
Like to all those nano ships they only way to stop it is to implement a max speed cap. Ship classes thata re supposed to move fast like ceptors get very high speed caps like 10k m/s and BS's that are supposed to be slow get a 2000m/s cap. That would have solved all of the nano ship problems for good. 0.0 Policing, Econnomic Control & NPC Agents |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Uninvited Guests
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Posted - 2007.11.12 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: EadTaes You nerf morons just suck. When will you understand that nerfing every thing will just have no end.
Right now it's nerf the vaga. Then people will find a new ships and it will be nerf that ship. and then nerf that other ship and so on.
If their is a problem you need to find a good constructive solution to it.
Like to all those nano ships they only way to stop it is to implement a max speed cap. Ship classes thata re supposed to move fast like ceptors get very high speed caps like 10k m/s and BS's that are supposed to be slow get a 2000m/s cap. That would have solved all of the nano ship problems for good.
The ways of the ccp are mysterious! In nerf bat they trust! So say we all!
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Aya Otosaki
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Posted - 2007.11.12 18:24:00 -
[180]
Originally by: Ione Hunt
Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Here is the thing...
To put it short: Vagas are breaking the speed vs dps balance.
Do you hear people complain about interceptors being overpowered because they can pick their fights, speed tank and run when they wish? No. Why? Because an inty has a balanced dps compared to its survivability.
Now look at the vaga. Even with half azzed fittings it still reaches close to interceptor speeds, ontop of it it has a cruiser hull (even if its not a tough hull its still better then a frig hull) and does alot more dps then an inty. This here is the balance issue.
This is the exact reason why they nerfed nano domis. A battleship hull going 5-6km/s avoiding everything because stuff that can damage it cant hit it (heavier missile types and heavier turret type) and light stuff that can actually hit it does way too little damage against this type of hull. They removed the nano domi. Soon its time to remove some of the vagas speed or dps. It needs a tweak. Either it goes as fast as an interceptor but then nerf its dps or it goes a bit slower and then it can still have its dps. Either way it needs a little fix.
Then again, the Vaga has probably THE worst tank of all HACs, but you kinda forgot to mention that I guess
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