Originally by: Astus Diabolus

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Hi everyone,
I personally went to this system to find out why he did this. Magus refused to communicate with myself until I gave him a fiery salvo of language.

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Originally by: Ductoris

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At this rate I'm going to ask for a BOB sub-forum.

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Originally by: Astus Diabolus

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small corp of aussies who aren't able to defend themselves yet.

Pirates are pirates, mercs are mercs, I don't see how difficult that is to grasp.

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Originally by: Ductoris

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At this rate I'm going to ask for a BOB sub-forum.

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Originally by: Astus Diabolus

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Pirates are pirates, mercs are mercs, I don't see how difficult that is to grasp.

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REPO one of the few remaining independant merc corps left in Empire is currently recruiting. We well never join any merc allaince for quick easy ganking kills, we try our best to keep some kind of honour in our work and respect the majority of our targets.

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mature, professional and the ability to remember that this is a only a game so no smack talkers.

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Originally by: Jezala

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Secondly, what the hell was your pilot thinking of when he decided to mine in a hulk in a 0.2 system with no security?

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Originally by: Astus Diabolus

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Noting the requirements for their recruiting:

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REPO one of the few remaining independant merc corps left in Empire is currently recruiting. We well never join any merc allaince for quick easy ganking kills, we try our best to keep some kind of honour in our work and respect the majority of our targets.

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and:

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mature, professional and the ability to remember that this is a only a game so no smack talkers.

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It seems that they are merely painting a picture of being mature contract killers, meanwhile they are acting like spiteful children.

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Originally by: Jezala

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The moment you called one of us a "jew killer" we had the war dec vote put in. Failure to make amends and settle this diplomatically with a little grease (isk) will result in the war going active in about 37 hours.

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Originally by: Astus Diabolus

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I do apologise for the "jew killer" comment, however it seems your corp member failed to mention his own words towards myself. He gave as good as he received and has brought shame on your corp by claiming a sensless kill was a contract (I don't see how killing a noob miner can be contract).

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Originally by: ShyLion

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Hi Astus,

I apologize for the late reply. I understand such a loss can cause frustration, but we unfortunately can not find any indication in our logs or files of any discrepancy or combat related troubles around that time that could have been the cause of, nor helped in the case of your loss. Lacking this verification we are bound by our reimbursement policy (located at http://www.eve-online.com/pnp/Repo-reimbursment.asp) which stipulates that we can only compensate through verification. Therefore, we can not do so in this case.

Please train your pilots to watch local and remind them to only fly what they are willing to lose. If you feel a recreation of the same issue would help us identify and help cure your problem, feel free to contact us again when you are in the same system with a hulk or similar ship. We would be happy to oblige. I do hope you will be able to recover from this loss as quickly as possible.


Best Regards,
ShyLion
Repo Industries Customer Support

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Originally by: Flinx Evenstar

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Oh..once again..if he is a noob miner..how the **** did he buy a Hulk...Ebay ?

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Originally by: Astus Diabolus

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Originally by: Flinx Evenstar

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Oh..once again..if he is a noob miner..how the **** did he buy a Hulk...Ebay ?

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Try corp funds...

As for Repo wanting to discuss this, it's only been since I've posted here that they are even willing to come to the table. The intention of this thread was to get this to happen - I can see Repo don't want their name dragged through the mud because of the actions of one of their own pilots, we respect this and are willing to discuss terms of non-engagement.

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Originally by: Astus Diabolus

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Originally by: Flinx Evenstar

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Oh..once again..if he is a noob miner..how the **** did he buy a Hulk...Ebay ?

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Try corp funds...

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Originally by: Corren'Thallion deLorian

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Oh, and as a last note on this, as this is the last thing I'll ever say on this subject, what was said was hardly anti-semetic, and if someone goes so completely crazy over such a statement, how can they survive all the horrors of the internet? Hell, we call our good friends and neighbours in New Zealand much worse.

This is not a defence, this is an apology for the remarks, and it is my honest belief that to go to war or demand a ransom of us for this or ANY remark is nothing but griefing.

Consider the destruction of our hulk the debt repaid.

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Originally by: Magus Nebula

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Actually we tried to get a hold of your CEO but he blocked most of us, and refused to speak in local.

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Originally by: Corren'Thallion deLorian

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Official Apologies have been given for the comment. Apologies were given the moment that I heard about it. AT NO POINT are we defending the use of said comment.

Attempts to solve this with words with the offending parties have been met with disrespect.

Astus was trying to keep the attention of this man who had previously been known to be a pirate to us so our mining team could get out unscathed, which by the way, succeeded.

In refference to the Hulk thing, we have 1 or 2 experienced players in the corp, how else would I be able to run the bloody thing?

Oh, and as a last note on this, as this is the last thing I'll ever say on this subject, what was said was hardly anti-semetic, and if someone goes so completely crazy over such a statement, how can they survive all the horrors of the internet? Hell, we call our good friends and neighbours in New Zealand much worse.

This is not a defence, this is an apology for the remarks, and it is my honest belief that to go to war or demand a ransom of us for this or ANY remark is nothing but griefing.

Consider the destruction of our hulk the debt repaid.

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Originally by: Karinith

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I'll be damned if it doesn't get posted now: "hardly anti-semetic"??

THE DEBT HAS NOT BEEN REPAID. You will accept the ultimatum as specified by Gabrial1 or we will forcibly see to it that the debt has been repaid in another manner.

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Originally by: Corren'Thallion deLorian

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Oh, and as a last note on this, as this is the last thing I'll ever say on this subject, what was said was hardly anti-semetic, and if someone goes so completely crazy over such a statement, how can they survive all the horrors of the internet? Hell, we call our good friends and neighbours in New Zealand much worse.

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Originally by: Ductoris

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At this rate I'm going to ask for a BOB sub-forum.

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Originally by: Astus Diabolus

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Originally by: Karinith

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I'll be damned if it doesn't get posted now: "hardly anti-semetic"??

THE DEBT HAS NOT BEEN REPAID. You will accept the ultimatum as specified by Gabrial1 or we will forcibly see to it that the debt has been repaid in another manner.

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I can see this is a lost cause, war dec away, it will make no difference to us, will just end up costing your corp funds. If you understood what anti-semetic means it would be a start. Also, you don't seem to have the logs of the original incident.

I can see you have no desire of settling this amicably, nor do you have any desire to see both sides of the coin - it's ok saying "[ 2007.07.11 14:24:22 ] Magus Nebula > dont need to, ill make you come just like your mom", but heaven forbid anyone else make outrageous claims.

You will find that war decing a corp that spends a lot of time in high sec space is just a waste of your own time and effort. Enjoy wasting a war on a nobody corp that won't profit you in the slightest.

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• 1. You and/or members of your corp are racists and deserve a beating.
  2. Magus never commented that there was actually a contract against you (check your logs).
  3. Trolling for sympathy or a response to your liking by posting this thread was a mistake (yea, REAL BIG).
  4. You still didn't read or understand Jezala's post and need to read it again:
  

  Originally by: Jezala

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  The moment you called one of us a "jew killer" we had the war dec vote put in. Failure to make amends and settle this diplomatically with a little grease (isk) will result in the war going active in about 37 hours.

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  5. Reading the Eve-O forums during server issues can be very entertaining.

Originally by: Astus Diabolus

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You will find that war decing a corp that spends a lot of time in high sec space is just a waste of your own time and effort. Enjoy wasting a war on a nobody corp that won't profit you in the slightest.

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Originally by: Magus Nebula

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2. And the mom thing, oh yea, ill admit, i was pretty ****ed, since im part of a jewish family.

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TBH this is an internet game, mom jokes are included in the coding of the game

Edit:Flinx, your not supposed to tell them ffs.

Originally by: Ductoris

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At this rate I'm going to ask for a BOB sub-forum.

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Originally by: scabbsssjr

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Edit:Flinx, your not supposed to tell them ffs.[/yellow]

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Originally by: Astus Diabolus

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smart reasoning... just for the record, I have nothing against jews, or germans, I have something against self-righteous trolls (yourself) and arrogant people who try to blame their vindictive actions on something else.

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Originally by: Karinith

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I'll be damned if it doesn't get posted now: "hardly anti-semetic"??

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Originally by: Astus Diabolus

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so it's not ok to call someone a "jew killer" because you're quarter jewish... but it's ok for someone to say they f**ked your mother, even though you've got one of them.

smart reasoning... just for the record, I have nothing against jews, or germans, I have something against self-righteous trolls (yourself) and arrogant people who try to blame their vindictive actions on something else.

It's easy enough to block someone, why did he not do so? I think the connection between the logic part of his brain and the motor-control centres was severed at birth. He wanted to play along as much as I did.

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Originally by: ShyLion

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2. Magus never commented that there was actually a contract against you (check your logs).

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Originally by: Astus Diabolus

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It seems the plan all along was to get a wardec out of this. I hope Repo feel big and tough for wardecing a small Corp.

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Originally by: Astus Diabolus

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Originally by: ShyLion

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2. Magus never commented that there was actually a contract against you (check your logs).

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Uhh, he only gave you the 2nd log. Nice bit of editing work there Magus.

As for being a racist, think what you will, but it's far from being racist... if I was racist I would have said the complete oposite. Calling someone a **** is not bieng racist, it's either telling someone their an oppressive force, or trying to get a rise out of them. The latter is the case.

I know most of you posting at the moment are from the US, so it doesn't surprise me that you lack the understanding of context. I'm affraid that my efforts to settle this diplomatically have been a waste of bytes, enjoy trying to get into high sec when you're pretty much pirates.

It seems the plan all along was to get a wardec out of this. I hope Repo feel big and tough for wardecing a small Corp.

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Originally by: Astus Diabolus

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As for being a racist, think what you will, but it's far from being racist... if I was racist I would have said the complete oposite. Calling someone a **** is not bieng racist, it's either telling someone their an oppressive force, or trying to get a rise out of them. The latter is the case.

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Originally by: Astus Diabolus

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1. so it's not ok to call someone a "jew killer" because you're quarter jewish...

2. but it's ok for someone to say they f**ked your mother, even though you've got one of them.

smart reasoning... just for the record,

3. I have nothing against jews, or germans,

4. I have something against self-righteous trolls (yourself) and arrogant people who try to blame their vindictive actions on something else.

5. It's easy enough to block someone, why did he not do so? I think the connection between the logic part of his brain and the motor-control centres was severed at birth. He wanted to play along as much as I did.

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Originally by: Ductoris

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At this rate I'm going to ask for a BOB sub-forum.

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Originally by: Astus Diabolus

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Just remember, if your members weren't such idiots, none of this would have happened.

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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I was sworn to absolute secrecy by CCP

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Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu

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Note that the pilot who lost the Hulk in a 0.2 system had less than 1.5mil sp according to his CEO .

Oh, EvE is a harsh and unforgiving universe, get used to it. Things like this happen all the time and frankly, nobody cares.

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Originally by: "CorrenThallion"

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Today, if I get to speak to their CEO, which is unlikely, I'm going to offer my wallet, plus my ships in an attempt to stop this war.

I will repeat, my position as CEO is also a responsibility that the people under me enjoy the game, because if they're not enjoying the game with me, then they'll search for somewhere/someone else.

I do hope they'll realize that we're new, that I'm new and all that. They know only Astus and myself, both of us are new players, hopefully they'll believe we're noobs for noobs, that's the only avenue I have.

I'm going to speak to them and see if they're happy with what's in my wallet, and podding me and all destroying all of my ships. I'd prefer to take all the punishment than have anything like this happen to the corp.

uughh... ****... after this NO talking in LOCAL, FOR EVERYONE, unless it's ABSOLUTELY necessary, perhaps even pretend not to speak english, I don't give a ****.

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Originally by: Astus Diabolus

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If you are, as you say, "in game training", why was the excuse of a "contract" given. Why did he just not say off the bat "I destroyed the hulk to teach you a lesson, lesson learned, bye".

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Originally by: "Cyberus"

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cause its has no sence anyway your brains is simply wont accept that anyway.

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Originally by: Astus Diabolus

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Originally by: Magus Nebula

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Actually we tried to get a hold of your CEO but he blocked most of us, and refused to speak in local.

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This is a blatant lie. Your CEO refused to have any contact with our CEO at the time of the incident. Our CEO was not even in system, so I don't know how he could speak in local.

I personally think you're just a bored pilot trying to get your corp to wardec a low SP corp. You already have 2 wars going, why waste your last one on a small insignifigant corp? I think you've been feeding your CEO lies just to satisfy your own desires.

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Originally by: Phinger

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Seriously all i see is a lot of wardec the noobs.....when it was actually one player.
Do we goto war as countries because on person on the street in another country calls u a name? If we did the world would be at World War number 100 plus.

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Originally by: Phinger

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Seriously all i see is a lot of wardec the noobs.....when it was actually one player.
Do we goto war as countries because on person on the street in another country calls u a name? If we did the world would be at World War number 100 plus. If we cant get this resolved, 20 -30 new players quit the game who had nuthing to do with it. and the Corp just folds up.....cause as the CEO stated earlier he wants his members to enjoy playing the game....and if its going to be just grief for the new players he will just fold it up.

Phinger


This is a game designed for fun. Not a country.

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Originally by: Xealot

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Edited by: Xealot on 12/07/2007 04:07:54
You dont make any sense, you cant compare real life politics to the actions made in the game like that. Perhaps this view is something to consider, They are going to war dec you because one of your members did something to warrant a war dec, and I hope you do realise that nobody needs to justify an act of war in EVE.. They want to kill this guy over and over, and you are still keeping him in your corp. That means you go down with him.. It's as simple as that

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Originally by: Astus Diabolus

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Just letting all potential customers of Repo Industries know that they are not Mercenaries, they are, in fact, pirates.

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Originally by: Gnulpie

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Hehe, it looks like those mercs are not that doing well. Otherwise they hardly would waste their time with such a small corp - unless they would have a contract but they don't have accordingly to the op and their actions.

If they would be good, they would go for juicy targets. I doubt that the ops corp will pay any money and I advise him to refuse all terms and payments - just ignore.

And as another hint, if you don't have the firepower to back up your actions, just back off. Low sec is dangerous, especially for miners. If you are a lonely miner you will usally die and it is not worth the profit.

As a sidenote, I think it is funny that a 1-month old char mines in low sec in a hulk and then seriously complains of getting killed. IF you want to mine in low sec, choose cheap ships like the mining cruisers, their yield is with good cruiser skills also very high and they are easy to replace. But no, it needs to be always the 'best', the most expensive... A few skills doesn't make you a skilled pilot

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Originally by: Phinger

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as usual u get a smattering of some decent thought... majority crap. I am going to run and hide now. Let me know what the outcome is in the coming weeks.

Phinger

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Originally by: Dahak2150

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I came into this thread not knowing what to expect.

Now I'm rooting for Repo.

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Originally by: Astus Diabolus

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On Tuesday 10/07/07 one of our Hulks was mining in low sec. Usually this system is fairly safe, but today, it seems that this so-called "merc" decided to commit piracy against our defenseless Hulk. The Hulk pilot was not only defenseless, but also a very new player...

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Originally by: Astus Diabolus

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... until I gave him a fiery salvo of language.

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The exchange of words rose to a level where he then proceeded to demand his CEO wardec us for this.

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Originally by: Mattduk

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Originally by: Dahak2150

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I came into this thread not knowing what to expect.

Now I'm rooting for Repo.

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I'm rooting for neither of them. They are both to blame. Things said on both sides which both sides should have taken much less seriously, and a pirate corp reaching for an excuse to shoot something.

I mean, really, guys... it's pathetic. we've all been called much worse than 'jew-killer' and we've all heard the momma jokes. Why either side is getting riled over such nonsense is beyond me.
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Oh, and a note to the uneducated. 'Jew-Killer' is not an anti-semitic remark. Calling someone a 'Jew-killer' is not saying anything bad about jewish people. BEING a 'Jew-Killer', on the other hand, is. I hope this distinction can clear up the obvious confusion amongst the ignorant posters in this thread.

So, please, move on, the pair of you.

Kind regards
Mattduk

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Originally by: Jezala

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Originally by: Mattduk

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Originally by: Dahak2150

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I came into this thread not knowing what to expect.

Now I'm rooting for Repo.

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I'm rooting for neither of them. They are both to blame. Things said on both sides which both sides should have taken much less seriously, and a pirate corp reaching for an excuse to shoot something.

I mean, really, guys... it's pathetic. we've all been called much worse than 'jew-killer' and we've all heard the momma jokes. Why either side is getting riled over such nonsense is beyond me.
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Oh, and a note to the uneducated. 'Jew-Killer' is not an anti-semitic remark. Calling someone a 'Jew-killer' is not saying anything bad about jewish people. BEING a 'Jew-Killer', on the other hand, is. I hope this distinction can clear up the obvious confusion amongst the ignorant posters in this thread.

So, please, move on, the pair of you.

Kind regards
Mattduk

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I take it you didn't read the log. Read the log first and then come back and revise your statements.

Despite the fact that "Jew Killer" by itself is not anti-semitic, the way it was employed most definitely made it so. In addition, how it was used was a very racially offensive insult to both Germans and Jewish alike.

Being young or new to the game gives you no free passes on your conduct nor reputation in game. It is a rare luxury afforded to us players by EVE to forcibly correct any deviant behavior deemed not acceptable by the community.

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Originally by: Astus Diabolus

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Funny thing is, they won't attack the russians up there, hell no

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Originally by: juduzz

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Originally by: Astus Diabolus

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Pirates are pirates, mercs are mercs, I don't see how difficult that is to grasp.

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Actualy its more like mercs are just hired pirates

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Originally by: Mattduk

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Originally by: Jezala

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Originally by: Mattduk

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Originally by: Dahak2150

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I came into this thread not knowing what to expect.

Now I'm rooting for Repo.

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I'm rooting for neither of them. They are both to blame. Things said on both sides which both sides should have taken much less seriously, and a pirate corp reaching for an excuse to shoot something.

I mean, really, guys... it's pathetic. we've all been called much worse than 'jew-killer' and we've all heard the momma jokes. Why either side is getting riled over such nonsense is beyond me.
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Oh, and a note to the uneducated. 'Jew-Killer' is not an anti-semitic remark. Calling someone a 'Jew-killer' is not saying anything bad about jewish people. BEING a 'Jew-Killer', on the other hand, is. I hope this distinction can clear up the obvious confusion amongst the ignorant posters in this thread.

So, please, move on, the pair of you.

Kind regards
Mattduk

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I take it you didn't read the log. Read the log first and then come back and revise your statements.

Despite the fact that "Jew Killer" by itself is not anti-semitic, the way it was employed most definitely made it so. In addition, how it was used was a very racially offensive insult to both Germans and Jewish alike.

Being young or new to the game gives you no free passes on your conduct nor reputation in game. It is a rare luxury afforded to us players by EVE to forcibly correct any deviant behavior deemed not acceptable by the community.

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You sir, need to grow some more skin, otherwise life for you in this game AND in real life is going to be a sorrowful one. Sticks and stones...

Yeah I read the log. I still think it's entirely pathetic that you are taking some words on an internet chat channel so much to heart.

Yeah, the hulk pilot made a mistake, and paid for it. Yeah, the OP should never have started this thread, but he's new to the community and isn't aware of how this game has changed over the years and now there are way too many people who want an 'arcade-style, log in and shoot sh1t, then log off' game, instead of the deeply involved game the creators intended. He's finding out the hard way, whereas a week on this forum would have pointed out the 'character' of many of the players he might face.

It's really none of my business, and I wish both corps all the success they deserve. I just wish you would all put down the dress rehearsal clothing and just play the game. All this squabling over a few words said in local is going to give you all ulcers. If I had 1 isk for every time I have been insulted by both rookie and veteran alike, I wouldn't have to go to work tomorrow ;)

You're both as bad as each other.

Respectfully
Mattduk

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Originally by: Splagada

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Edited by: Splagada on 21/06/2007 13:51:39
in eve you can break their windows, take over the house, and throw the children in the fire.

Originally by: scabbsssjr

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1. Wrong section of the forums.

2. IBTL no corp ticker showing

3. Who says mercs can't be pirates? Some of the best mercs are pirates or former pirates.

4. How much do you actually know about mercs? You are just 1 month old ingame.

5. If a guy is soloing a hulk not aligned to a station ready to warp he deserves to lose it, he had a chance to escape, he just didn't think the guy was a threat.

6. You provoked him with your own language, why shouldn't they want to get back at you for using fiery language?

Originally by: Astus Diabolus

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Hi everyone,
I personally went to this system to find out why he did this. Magus refused to communicate with myself until I gave him a fiery salvo of language.

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Originally by: gabrial1

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Why do I need a reason to war someone anyway?

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[ 2007.07.11 13:37:38 ] Astus Diabolus > at least I don't kill jews
[ 2007.07.11 13:38:34 ] Astus Diabolus > aww, poor magus - can't take down a noob
[ 2007.07.11 13:39:01 ] Magus Nebula > actually i got a 500mil hulk
[ 2007.07.11 13:39:35 ] Magus Nebula > oh wait was he one of yours
[ 2007.07.11 13:39:37 ] Astus Diabolus > your point? you can't take down a 3 mil cruiser *cries for magarse*
[ 2007.07.11 13:39:54 ] Magus Nebula > i can but i dont feel like chasing you down
[ 2007.07.11 13:40:06 ] Magus Nebula > your ship will not stand up to mine
[ 2007.07.11 13:40:08 ] Astus Diabolus > you have to bring your boyfriends to find me
[ 2007.07.11 13:40:20 ] Astus Diabolus > haha, if you could find me it would
[ 2007.07.11 13:40:41 ] Astus Diabolus > I'd eat you for breakfast, then **** nuggets of jewkiller in the arvo

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Originally by: Magus Nebula

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Originally by: Mattduk

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You sir, need to grow some more skin, otherwise life for you in this game AND in real life is going to be a sorrowful one. Sticks and stones...

Yeah I read the log. I still think it's entirely pathetic that you are taking some words on an internet chat channel so much to heart.

Yeah, the hulk pilot made a mistake, and paid for it. Yeah, the OP should never have started this thread, but he's new to the community and isn't aware of how this game has changed over the years and now there are way too many people who want an 'arcade-style, log in and shoot sh1t, then log off' game, instead of the deeply involved game the creators intended. He's finding out the hard way, whereas a week on this forum would have pointed out the 'character' of many of the players he might face.

It's really none of my business, and I wish both corps all the success they deserve. I just wish you would all put down the dress rehearsal clothing and just play the game. All this squabling over a few words said in local is going to give you all ulcers. If I had 1 isk for every time I have been insulted by both rookie and veteran alike, I wouldn't have to go to work tomorrow ;)

You're both as bad as each other.

Respectfully
Mattduk

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Much worse than jew killer? I see you've never lost anyone to that incident known as the holocaust, so go tell it to my family about how it isnt really that bad to be called a jew killer. Was i wrong for making the mom joke, yea prob, but after an hour of that i was a little mad. And yes we've all been insulted and smacked a lil, but this goes way beyond that in my opinion.

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Originally by: Max Godsnottlingson

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For those of you guys who don't know Repo, let me tell you something about The Confederation of Independent Corperations dealings with Repo.

We first met them back end of last year, when they war decked us. What followed was the best damned war we have ever taken part in. The guys fought hard gave no favours and asked no favours.

But you know, the guys never once resorted to SMACK nor insults. These are some of the friendlies guys in game, and who understand that it's a game.

As a consequence between our two groups there's a hell of a lot of friendship. Yes they are Mercs, yes, there is a possibility that they may wardeck us again, if somebody pays them enough. But you know what. Our guys know that we will have a bloody good, hard worked, and possibly painful war, but we'll have fun.

I won't comment on the 'other side' of this argument. I don't know them. But I do know that Repo leadership would never tollerate any of their members engaging in such comments.

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Originally by: Mistress Suffering

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Don't venture into lowsec unless you are prepared to either fight or avoid fighting. Failure to do so will simply result in stupid losses.

Hire your own mercenaries to solve it. If you can afford 500M Hulks for unprepared noob pilots, you can afford a small merc corp capable of chasing off Repo.

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Originally by: Jarne

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I agree to Mattduk here.

Astus is clearly to blame for all this. But REPO, you don't make yourself look good here, either. You're just much too unforgiving. Learn to take it easy. NOW! :)

Ah, and btw:

Originally by: gabrial1

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Why do I need a reason to war someone anyway?

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Because otherwise it would be griefing. You should know the rules. Not that there is no reason in this case...

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Originally by: Mattduk

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Originally by: Magus Nebula

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Originally by: Mattduk

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You sir, need to grow some more skin, otherwise life for you in this game AND in real life is going to be a sorrowful one. Sticks and stones...

Yeah I read the log. I still think it's entirely pathetic that you are taking some words on an internet chat channel so much to heart.

Yeah, the hulk pilot made a mistake, and paid for it. Yeah, the OP should never have started this thread, but he's new to the community and isn't aware of how this game has changed over the years and now there are way too many people who want an 'arcade-style, log in and shoot sh1t, then log off' game, instead of the deeply involved game the creators intended. He's finding out the hard way, whereas a week on this forum would have pointed out the 'character' of many of the players he might face.

It's really none of my business, and I wish both corps all the success they deserve. I just wish you would all put down the dress rehearsal clothing and just play the game. All this squabling over a few words said in local is going to give you all ulcers. If I had 1 isk for every time I have been insulted by both rookie and veteran alike, I wouldn't have to go to work tomorrow ;)

You're both as bad as each other.

Respectfully
Mattduk

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Much worse than jew killer? I see you've never lost anyone to that incident known as the holocaust, so go tell it to my family about how it isnt really that bad to be called a jew killer. Was i wrong for making the mom joke, yea prob, but after an hour of that i was a little mad. And yes we've all been insulted and smacked a lil, but this goes way beyond that in my opinion.

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Magus, firstly you see nothing of my loss, as it is not immediately apparant. To suggest otherwise is a giant leap of faith. Remember, the Jewish aren't the only persecuted people in history. How about those Palestinians, eh?

Secondly, I am sorry for the loss of your close family member to an incident that occured over 60 years ago. A great many people lost loved ones during that period of history, from many countries around the world, including the residents of London, England. It was truly a tragic affair. However, history cannot be changed, and we all have to live our lives in the present.

Thirdly, I have not once stated that any insult in game is acceptable behaviour. I am simply addressing the way it is being handled on this forum. Sure, Bad things were said, but you will never escape hearing bad things unless you want to live in a bubble in the basement. I also fully believe that some of the reaction is facilitated by the arms length nature of the internet. I am sure there are some people out there that could call you anything they damn well pleased, anti-semetic or not, right to your face, and you wouldn't lift a finger, nor utter a sound in defiance, less you lose your astonishingly good looks as a result. Sometimes you just have to ignore it. Times, for example, when you can't do a sausage about it. Say, over an internet chat channel, maybe?

If they did something to warrant a war declaration, then declare war on them and then let that be their lesson. Dragging it through this forum won't solve anything. Now I know you didn't start the thread, they did, which was a silly thing to do, but that doesn't automatically change the 'two wrongs don't make a right' rule.

This is a small, new corp that you are picking on. Their ramblings about your pilots piratical activities won't change the opinion of most of the readers of these forums. It's a given nowadays that mercs pirate in their spare time. Unfortunately, the onus is on the merc to prove otherwise. So when such a corp mentions it on the forums, it's hardly a shocker. Ignore it, declare war, kill them, move on. Job done.

Respectfully,
Mattduk

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Originally by: Pinstar

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....The nature of PVP is that more often than not, sombody is going to lose a ship.

That go

Originally by: Crax McGee

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Look at all you lot acting all big by picking on a new guy.
you lot are the ones who need 2 stfu and let him learn without smack.

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Originally by: Dungar Loghoth

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BoB have no one to blame but themselves for removing the complexes and giving RA so much free time

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Originally by: Astus Diabolus

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On Tuesday 10/07/07 one of our Hulks was mining in low sec.

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Originally by: Astus Diabolus

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Hi everyone,

Just letting all potential customers of Repo Industries know that they are not Mercenaries, they are, in fact, pirates.

....EDITED BLAH BLAH BLAH

As a representative of ANZEC I invite any larger more experienced corp who wishes to stamp out piracy to aid us. We need all the help we can get with this and we would be greatful for help from anyone.

The actions of a pirate are not the same as the actions of a mercenary.

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Originally by: CCP Sharkbait

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i have untrashed this bug report and i will take car

Originally by: Ralle030583

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P.S. cu in space and dont camp Esescama station is boring i'm not there *g*
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Originally by: Torshin

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Originally by: Mattduk

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Magus, firstly you see nothing of my loss, as it is not immediately apparant. To suggest otherwise is a giant leap of faith. Remember, the Jewish aren't the only persecuted people in history. How about those Palestinians, eh?

Secondly, I am sorry for the loss of your close family member to an incident that occured over 60 years ago. A great many people lost loved ones during that period of history, from many countries around the world, including the residents of London, England. It was truly a tragic affair. However, history cannot be changed, and we all have to live our lives in the present.

Thirdly, I have not once stated that any insult in game is acceptable behaviour. I am simply addressing the way it is being handled on this forum. Sure, Bad things were said, but you will never escape hearing bad things unless you want to live in a bubble in the basement. I also fully believe that some of the reaction is facilitated by the arms length nature of the internet. I am sure there are some people out there that could call you anything they damn well pleased, anti-semetic or not, right to your face, and you wouldn't lift a finger, nor utter a sound in defiance, less you lose your astonishingly good looks as a result. Sometimes you just have to ignore it. Times, for example, when you can't do a sausage about it. Say, over an internet chat channel, maybe?

If they did something to warrant a war declaration, then declare war on them and then let that be their lesson. Dragging it through this forum won't solve anything. Now I know you didn't start the thread, they did, which was a silly thing to do, but that doesn't automatically change the 'two wrongs don't make a right' rule.

This is a small, new corp that you are picking on. Their ramblings about your pilots piratical activities won't change the opinion of most of the readers of these forums. It's a given nowadays that mercs pirate in their spare time. Unfortunately, the onus is on the merc to prove otherwise. So when such a corp mentions it on the forums, it's hardly a shocker. Ignore it, declare war, kill them, move on. Job done.

Respectfully,
Mattduk

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get out of this thread and log into the game you useless troll

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Originally by: Jezala

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We weren't camping the Esescama station, we were too distracted playing this game: Winter Bells

My high score so far is 135,495,230

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Originally by: CCP Sharkbait

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i have untrashed this bug report and i will take car

Originally by: Magus Nebula

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I was just told from one of the Officers in this aussie corp that they are glad this thread went up, Saying that CVA now wants them to join their alliance, inspite of recent events. I guess umm... congrats? I really hope thats not what you guys were aiming for this whole time in this forum.

Also i would like to take this time to thank all our former war targets for your helpful responses and keeping it professional.

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Originally by: Astus Diabolus

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stuff

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Originally by: Mattduk

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Originally by: Magus Nebula

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I was just told from one of the Officers in this aussie corp that they are glad this thread went up, Saying that CVA now wants them to join their alliance, inspite of recent events. I guess umm... congrats? I really hope thats not what you guys were aiming for this whole time in this forum.

Also i would like to take this time to thank all our former war targets for your helpful responses and keeping it professional.

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CVA do not recruit corporations unless they have been actively assisting them in CVA space for at least 6 months. That's straight from the Hardin's mouth.

Regards
Mattduk

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Originally by: Hardin

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Originally by: Mattduk

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Originally by: Magus Nebula

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I was just told from one of the Officers in this aussie corp that they are glad this thread went up, Saying that CVA now wants them to join their alliance, inspite of recent events. I guess umm... congrats? I really hope thats not what you guys were aiming for this whole time in this forum.

Also i would like to take this time to thank all our former war targets for your helpful responses and keeping it professional.

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CVA do not recruit corporations unless they have been actively assisting them in CVA space for at least 6 months. That's straight from the Hardin's mouth.

Regards
Mattduk

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Ooops how the hell did I get involved in all this

Yes CVA generally only recruit corps who have been active in helping us in our space for a long period and have proven their capabilities and understand our allegiance to Amarr.

I have not been involved or indeed seen any internal discussion on the recruitment of the op's corp - although that is not to say they haven't talked to someone within CVA. If they have it certainly hasn't been progressed to any serious degree.

We do shoot REPO and have a lot of fun doing so. I am sure they feel the same way about us . If the op's corp feel particularly victimised they could move to 9UY (or any other part of Providence) and live under our shield of Holy Amarrian Justice - in the same way that many other neutral individuals and corporations do.

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Originally by: Magus Nebula

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PS We Just Killed thier POS in Tirbam, now to wait for the war 2 start!!

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Originally by: CCP Sharkbait

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i have untrashed this bug report and i will take car

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From ANZEC

Well. It looks like it's going to actually be war.

During the setup of our medium POS last night Astus, while trying to keep Magus Nebula distracted while our shields were down (succeeding) made racially charged comments towards him. Their corporation has decided to go to war with us for such a small thing, and to be honest, it's more likely an excuse than a reason, I mean ****, they're on the internet you'd think they'd get used to jew jokes.

They've a mass of extremely experienced players with plenty of cash to back themselves up.

They have also made demands we couldn't possibly come to. After work today, I'm going to do my best to resolve this in my way, I DO NOT want war, it would be nothing but bad for us right now.

If my tactic does not work, then everyone, whether they want to or not, must remain in station at all times and DO NOT leave unless you're in a completely worthless throw-away junk pile.

This goes against everything I wanted out of being a CEO because it puts you all in a position to enjoy the game less.

Please note: The aggressor corporation is full of children, they will not possibly listen to any means of reasoning, that is why my line is likely to fail.

So now, just follow what Phinger has said in the Corp Eve-mail.

You'll know soon enough if I evade war or not.

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Originally by: Rachen Mysuna

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Edited by: Rachen Mysuna on 13/07/2007 10:38:16
nothing new here, pirates mostly have no honor at all


mining in lowsec with hulk though

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Originally by: Phinger

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Seriously all i see is a lot of wardec the noobs.....when it was actually one player.
Do we goto war as countries because on person on the street in another country calls u a name? If we did the world would be at World War number 100 plus. If we cant get this resolved, 20 -30 new players quit the game who had nuthing to do with it. and the Corp just folds up.....cause as the CEO stated earlier he wants his members to enjoy playing the game....and if its going to be just grief for the new players he will just fold it up.

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Originally by: Sral TBear

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Originally by: Rachen Mysuna

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Edited by: Rachen Mysuna on 13/07/2007 10:38:16
nothing new here, pirates mostly have no honor at all


mining in lowsec with hulk though

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The Plunder-Bears code

1. Always repect other players

2. Dont smack talk not on forums, not on local (private convo if requestet by other player is ok to smack in)

3. Always pay honnor to ransoms, if you fail to do so you will be punished by the plunder-bears

4. Always respect a 1 vs 1. Dont let it come down to a fight on words, a 1 vs 1 is exactly that a 1 vs 1

5. Never shoot at a blue. Doing this will be punsihed by the plunder-bears

6. Always help a fellow -PUB- in need. But use your brain, dont loose a expencive ship in a fight you cant win no mater what

7. In gang / fleet combat you will folow any order isued by the alliance FC. Failing to do this will be punished by the Plunder-bears

8. Always take on a griefer / griefer corp. You get a request for help against these types you paas it on to the alliance and the alliance WILL respond

9. Enjoy eve, its a game, even good persons are bad in eve, split personalitys

10. Remember our moto, live by it, play by it. "We dont give a shi**"

nope no honnor at all

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Originally by: Jezala

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We weren't camping the Esescama station, we were too distracted playing this game:Winter Bells

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Originally by: Jezala

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The moment you called one of us a "jew killer" we had the war dec vote put in. Failure to make amends and settle this diplomatically with a little grease (isk) will result in the war going active in about 37 hours.

Secondly, what the hell was your pilot thinking of when he decided to mine in a hulk in a 0.2 system with no security? We did you guys a favor by reprimanding said pilot and taking his toy away.

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Quote:

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From ANZEC

Well. It looks like it's going to actually be war.

They've a mass of extremely experienced players with plenty of cash to back themselves up.

They have also made demands we couldn't possibly come to. After work today, I'm going to do my best to resolve this in my way, I DO NOT want war, it would be nothing but bad for us right now.

If my tactic does not work, then everyone, whether they want to or not, must remain in station at all times and DO NOT leave unless you're in a completely worthless throw-away junk pile.

This goes against everything I wanted out of being a CEO because it puts you all in a position to enjoy the game less.

Please note: The aggressor corporation is full of children, they will not possibly listen to any means of reasoning, that is why my line is likely to fail.

You'll know soon enough if I evade war or not.

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Quote:

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Fact is most of us are grown men. And we have one grown woman.

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Originally by: AntiHero

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Quote:

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Fact is most of us are grown men. And we have one grown woman.

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Two, actually, Coryigon

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Originally by: Duck Andcover

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Edited by: Duck Andcover on 13/07/2007 15:54:55
Edited by: Duck Andcover on 13/07/2007 15:52:05

Originally by: Jezala

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We weren't camping the Esescama station, we were too distracted playing this game:Winter Bells

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That's disgustingly cute and strangely addictive

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Originally by: Marcus Grisbius

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Edited by: Marcus Grisbius on 13/07/2007 20:51:44

Originally by: Duck Andcover

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Edited by: Duck Andcover on 13/07/2007 15:54:55
Edited by: Duck Andcover on 13/07/2007 15:52:05

Originally by: Jezala

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We weren't camping the Esescama station, we were too distracted playing this game:Winter Bells

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That's disgustingly cute and strangely addictive

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Generally if you see us in station seemingly AFK we're probably mesmerized by that darn rabbit. GAH! Why'd Jez have to find that stupid game.

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Originally by: Aslovi

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OMFG this guy just doesn't learn, I've logged on today to find what I'm about to post in corp mail. [The chat log will be uploaded when the member next gets online]

2007.07.14 02:24
Chasm Illyaki > make it quick
Astus Diabolus > bring it**** monkey
Chasm Illyaki > name the place
Astus Diabolus > VII/I
Chasm Illyaki > be there in a sec sugar ****
Astus Diabolus > bring it anti-semite****
Astus Diabolus > having fun?
Chasm Illyaki > you're no fun
Astus Diabolus > none at all jew killer
Chasm Illyaki > come back, i want your courpse
Astus Diabolus > as I said to your monkey of a CEO last night, you're the ones losing ISK, not us

This is just amazing the guy just keeps going you think his CEO would have had a word and said to STFU.

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Originally by: Aslovi

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OMFG this guy just doesn't learn, I've logged on today to find what I'm about to post in corp mail. [The chat log will be uploaded when the member next gets online]

2007.07.14 02:24
Chasm Illyaki > make it quick
Astus Diabolus > bring it**** monkey
Chasm Illyaki > name the place
Astus Diabolus > VII/I
Chasm Illyaki > be there in a sec sugar ****
Astus Diabolus > bring it anti-semite****
Astus Diabolus > having fun?
Chasm Illyaki > you're no fun
Astus Diabolus > none at all jew killer
Chasm Illyaki > come back, i want your courpse
Astus Diabolus > as I said to your monkey of a CEO last night, you're the ones losing ISK, not us

This is just amazing the guy just keeps going you think his CEO would have had a word and said to STFU.

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Originally by: Hardin

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If the op's corp feel particularly victimised they could move to 9UY (or any other part of Providence) and live under our shield of Holy Amarrian Justice - in the same way that many other neutral individuals and corporations do.

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Quote:

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Hey gabe i will be back on sunday send me a eve-mail, i got some sec status that i need to burn up, these guys should not be allowed to fly a hauler full of rubber dog **** out of hong kong, alone to play eve. I want to kill some of them. Oh and by the way whichever one of you posted that winterbells game needs to be shot i just played it for a like a hour on a gatecamp and missed like five kills.

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Originally by: Aslovi

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2007.07.14 02:24
Chasm Illyaki > make it quick
Astus Diabolus > bring it**** monkey
Chasm Illyaki > name the place
Astus Diabolus > VII/I
Chasm Illyaki > be there in a sec sugar ****
Astus Diabolus > bring it anti-semite****
Astus Diabolus > having fun?
Chasm Illyaki > you're no fun
Astus Diabolus > none at all jew killer
Chasm Illyaki > come back, i want your courpse
Astus Diabolus > as I said to your monkey of a CEO last night, you're the ones losing ISK, not us

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Originally by: AntiHero

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I would like to start off by saying this:
REPO is a close knit corp, most of these guys have been flying together for a very long time, and when someone out there in the "Game" personally offends one of our members to such a degree as this we will respond with whatever force we see fit to handle the situation, if it's to pull them into conversation and discuss it then fine, or it's to war dec them and grief them to hell then thats our right as a corporation in EVE to the dec anyone we feel we want to.

Remarks such as was stated in the log is not acceptable anywhere, regardless of it being in a game, would you call a perfect stranger in the pub a "Jew-Killer"? No, unless you wanted a fight. Why should EVE be any different then that? It is a place to gather and meet with people and friends much like a bar, so why act moronic?

And yes it is a game and we very much enjoy playing it the way we play. Are we pirates? No, but if we are out looking for war targets as Magnus was and fall across an opportunity such as one put in front of us like with Magnus we will take it if we have the security to achieve it.

For those of you saying that they were not being anti-somatic you need to read the log and look at the comments referring to gas chambers and so forth. If you cannot see that as being anti-somatic then I suggest more education. As for the mom ***** that Magnus made, sure it was inappropriate, but what do you expect from a person who is Jewish to respond after listening to this guy go on for an hour with such racial slander as this? Should he have done it? Probably not but if I was in his same shoes I would not of been as controlled as he was.


By the way I am black, and I know for a fact if I were to be hit with racist comments like this I would not of handled it as well as Magnus.

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Originally by: Chasm Illyaki

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Originally by: AntiHero

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I would like to start off by saying this:
REPO is a close knit corp, most of these guys have been flying together for a very long time, and when someone out there in the "Game" personally offends one of our members to such a degree as this we will respond with whatever force we see fit to handle the situation, if it's to pull them into conversation and discuss it then fine, or it's to war dec them and grief them to hell then thats our right as a corporation in EVE to the dec anyone we feel we want to.

Remarks such as was stated in the log is not acceptable anywhere, regardless of it being in a game, would you call a perfect stranger in the pub a "Jew-Killer"? No, unless you wanted a fight. Why should EVE be any different then that? It is a place to gather and meet with people and friends much like a bar, so why act moronic?

And yes it is a game and we very much enjoy playing it the way we play. Are we pirates? No, but if we are out looking for war targets as Magnus was and fall across an opportunity such as one put in front of us like with Magnus we will take it if we have the security to achieve it.

For those of you saying that they were not being anti-somatic you need to read the log and look at the comments referring to gas chambers and so forth. If you cannot see that as being anti-somatic then I suggest more education. As for the mom ***** that Magnus made, sure it was inappropriate, but what do you expect from a person who is Jewish to respond after listening to this guy go on for an hour with such racial slander as this? Should he have done it? Probably not but if I was in his same shoes I would not of been as controlled as he was.


By the way I am black, and I know for a fact if I were to be hit with racist comments like this I would not of handled it as well as Magnus.

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wait...
anti, you're black too? dang i thought i was the only brotha in corp.

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Originally by: CCP Arkanon

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We're a company of professionals, not some LAN party gone bad.

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Originally by: Mogrin

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Whats a mercenary?
Oh, a thread full of roleplayers...

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Originally by: Thronde

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Boybeater is IMO the core of Repo the rest are uninteresting = P

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Originally by: Ace Vorkos

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I have never really read all the e-drama in the previous pages, but it seems ANZEC have actually won a defensive war? Or at least temporary, until Repo re-dec them. Seems like they have guts, those Kiwiauzies,
/this is personal opinion/

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Originally by: Aslovi

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ANZEC have run into OSS and BRUCE space where you guys are offering them protection, even after all the smack and racist comments.
We tried the diplo route to resolve it, but REPO never has done Politics and we are now Red to most of Syndicate.

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Originally by: JC Allmighty

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Dude..? They didn't want a war

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Originally by: JC Allmighty

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So anyway, fair enough.. it's EVE and it's on.. but now they have a little support and you're complaining that the situation isn't fair!? Diplomacy is all a small corp has against bigger forces, looks like they've used that aspect well.

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Originally by: Derek

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7 pages in this thread, what has the world gone to, or should I say, how bored is everyone.

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Originally by: Astus Diabolus

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so it's not ok to call someone a "jew killer" because you're quarter jewish... but it's ok for someone to say they f**ked your mother, even though you've got one of them.

smart reasoning... just for the record, I have nothing against jews, or germans, I have something against self-righteous trolls (yourself) and arrogant people who try to blame their vindictive actions on something else.

It's easy enough to block someone, why did he not do so? I think the connection between the logic part of his brain and the motor-control centres was severed at birth. He wanted to play along as much as I did.

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Originally by: Derek

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7 pages in this thread, what has the world gone to, or should I say, how bored is everyone.

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Originally by: Astal Atlar

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repo .... funny guys flying inties and af dieing easily such a large topic for them pls. god save me...

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Originally by: cal nereus

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Screw research, we have opinions.

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