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Hera Chawla Ministry of War Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2012.01.20 23:33:00 - [541] - Quote http://i53.tinypic.com/10qmclc.jpg The Aftermath.
Sin Istersly Pinnacle Services Coalition The-Nation 21	Posted - 2012.01.20 23:50:00 - [542] - Quote Lysaeus wrote: Sin Istersly wrote: I've actually seen one of those self entitled brats mouth off to the wrong person and get his head blown off. It was quite horrific while at the same time frighteningly satisfying. So you find the deaths of others satisfying? Do find the meaning inbetween 'frighteningly' and the end of the sentence without reading the whole thing? Or do you just like to cut and paste others words to make them mean what you want? I said it was horrific, try reading it again, this time slowly, you might actually understand it this time.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Ponies for the Ethical Treatment of Asteroids 848	Posted - 2012.01.20 23:57:00 - [543] - Quote I find the deaths of others satisfying
Hoxothul Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire 13	Posted - 2012.01.20 23:58:00 - [544] - Quote Sin Istersly wrote: Lysaeus wrote: Sin Istersly wrote: I've actually seen one of those self entitled brats mouth off to the wrong person and get his head blown off. It was quite horrific while at the same time frighteningly satisfying. So you find the deaths of others satisfying? Do find the meaning inbetween 'frighteningly' and the end of the sentence without reading the whole thing? Or do you just like to cut and paste others words to make them mean what you want? I said it was horrific, try reading it again, this time slowly, you might actually understand it this time. So much back peddling!
Findail Fatal Cure 1	Posted - 2012.01.21 00:07:00 - [545] - Quote Andy Kusoni wrote: Moon minerals and wormhole loot aren't raw isk. They are used in producing modules and ships that are generally beneficial and fun to use for the entire eve playerbase. Raw isk is PvE content that gives you a bounty payout, not an item payout. We dislike PvE that does not provide a service other than direct isk reward. IMO, there shouldn't be very few bounties at all in this game. Income from PvE should be in the form of things that drop and can be sold (eg: salvage, modules, ammo, BPCs). So, things that would be beneficial changes: 1. Remove bounties (bit rough on new players though. Player base will most likely decline) 2. Moon mining depletes ore (mimics actual mining operations. Only moons are exempt from this basic rule) 3. w-space balancing - maybe have npc motherships randomly spawn and attack player owned pos's, forcing the players to either defend or lose all assets stored there. 4. Buff exploration sites with random chance of t3 items, or only spawn certain items in those sites I'm sure there's a lot more that could be done, but whining because hisec players form up to run incursions is ludicrous. Especially when you look at the antics of some alliances in the past e.g. http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=626
Sin Istersly Pinnacle Services Coalition The-Nation 21	Posted - 2012.01.21 00:11:00 - [546] - Quote Hoxothul wrote: Sin Istersly wrote: Lysaeus wrote: Sin Istersly wrote: I've actually seen one of those self entitled brats mouth off to the wrong person and get his head blown off. It was quite horrific while at the same time frighteningly satisfying. So you find the deaths of others satisfying? Do find the meaning inbetween 'frighteningly' and the end of the sentence without reading the whole thing? Or do you just like to cut and paste others words to make them mean what you want? I said it was horrific, try reading it again, this time slowly, you might actually understand it this time. So much back peddling! Backpeddling would imply I took back something I said. I didnt change a damn thing. Do you guys even speak enligsh or is it a second language to you? Once again, try reading it over, more slowly, maybe even google the big words you dont understand.
Hoxothul Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire 13	Posted - 2012.01.21 00:13:00 - [547] - Quote Findail wrote: So, things that would be beneficial changes: 1. Remove bounties (bit rough on new players though. Player base will most likely decline) 2. Moon mining depletes ore (mimics actual mining operations. Only moons are exempt from this basic rule) 3. w-space balancing - maybe have npc motherships randomly spawn and attack player owned pos's, forcing the players to either defend or lose all assets stored there. 4. Buff exploration sites with random chance of t3 items, or only spawn certain items in those sites I'm sure there's a lot more that could be done, but whining because hisec players form up to run incursions is ludicrous. Especially when you look at the antics of some alliances in the past e.g. http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=626 Wow, you are completely and utterly missing the point, impressive!
Poloturion Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire 4	Posted - 2012.01.21 00:54:00 - [548] - Quote Findail wrote: So, things that would be beneficial changes: 1. Remove bounties (bit rough on new players though. Player base will most likely decline) 2. Moon mining depletes ore (mimics actual mining operations. Only moons are exempt from this basic rule) 3. w-space balancing - maybe have npc motherships randomly spawn and attack player owned pos's, forcing the players to either defend or lose all assets stored there. 4. Buff exploration sites with random chance of t3 items, or only spawn certain items in those sites I'm sure there's a lot more that could be done, but whining because hisec players form up to run incursions is ludicrous. Especially when you look at the antics of some alliances in the past e.g. http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=626 The only item you mention even close to being related to what was said was the removal of bounties, which I agree is likely a bad idea and it seems fairly well balanced between the different areas of space. The other changes you mentioned are not means of getting isk directly and unrelated to what is being discussed. Moon goo needs to be reacted into other things and moved somewhere to be worth anything (I think, never mined a moon before). Anything you get in wspace needs to be protected until you can safely build t3 components with it and/or can get it to known space to sell. You already can get special stuff in exploration sites like invention items. Also, who is whining that people form up for incursions? That people form up and learn fleet tactics is great! That they get liquid isk directly as their primary payment is not. Mission runners have salvage and items as a large portion of their reward and miners have to build stuff with what they get and both play the market game to be paid. The recommendation for moving more of the payment from incursions to LP brings incursions in line with these other forms of PvE while providing a possible service to the rest of the community beyond being a source of tears. Finally, I fail to see how your link is relevant. That discussed an issue with an exploit, whereas the issue here is a broken mechanic.
Crazy Jakk Crazy Jakk's Discount Logistics 0	Posted - 2012.01.21 01:29:00 - [549] - Quote Sin Istersly wrote: Hoxothul wrote: Sin Istersly wrote: Lysaeus wrote: Sin Istersly wrote: I've actually seen one of those self entitled brats mouth off to the wrong person and get his head blown off. It was quite horrific while at the same time frighteningly satisfying. So you find the deaths of others satisfying? Do find the meaning inbetween 'frighteningly' and the end of the sentence without reading the whole thing? Or do you just like to cut and paste others words to make them mean what you want? I said it was horrific, try reading it again, this time slowly, you might actually understand it this time. So much back peddling! Backpeddling would imply I took back something I said. I didnt change a damn thing. Do you guys even speak enligsh or is it a second language to you? Once again, try reading it over, more slowly, maybe even google the big words you dont understand. My favorite bit was when he said "enligsh". You know Enligsh is meant to have a capital letter, right?
Lysaeus Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire 6	Posted - 2012.01.21 01:49:00 - [550] - Quote Yeah, I'm having enough fun with him saying he beats kids and enjoys when people die to bother myself with something so petty as a spelling mistake. I like to think I'm not that much of a pedant.

Findail Fatal Cure 1	Posted - 2012.01.21 01:52:00 - [551] - Quote Poloturion wrote: The only item you mention even close to being related to what was said was the removal of bounties, which I agree is likely a bad idea and it seems fairly well balanced between the different areas of space. The other changes you mentioned are not means of getting isk directly and unrelated to what is being discussed. Moon goo needs to be reacted into other things and moved somewhere to be worth anything (I think, never mined a moon before). Anything you get in wspace needs to be protected until you can safely build t3 components with it and/or can get it to known space to sell. You already can get special stuff in exploration sites like invention items. Also, who is whining that people form up for incursions? That people form up and learn fleet tactics is great! That they get liquid isk directly as their primary payment is not. Mission runners have salvage and items as a large portion of their reward and miners have to build stuff with what they get and both play the market game to be paid. The recommendation for moving more of the payment from incursions to LP brings incursions in line with these other forms of PvE while providing a possible service to the rest of the community beyond being a source of tears. Finally, I fail to see how your link is relevant. That discussed an issue with an exploit, whereas the issue here is a broken mechanic. The point is that you're whining about what you perceive as a "broken mechanic" when it doesn't appear to be, then you defend the unbalanced nature of moon mining or wormholes as being ok. So it's very much a case of wanting stuff that doesn't directly affect you nerfed, while leaving your own income source alone, even though it could be balanced out a lot better than it currently is. Sounds like the hisec mission rewards whine all over again. Pretty funny really, considering the t3 market has exploded because of incursion runners. They sure buy a LOT of t3 ships. So what you're really saying is that you want the income of wormhole corps drastically reduced. While I'd agree that it's currently out of proportion to the risk, that move might be too drastic to allow them all to survive. But if market injection of isk is REALLY what concerns you, what about faction items? They too are "created" items, that don't rely on market mechanics to produce. Same goes for faction blueprints. To switch to a purely player driven market would have quite an impact on the game. It would create new career options for invention, but the whining from 0.0 alliances wanting to faction fit cap ships would be huge. Though having to invent faction items would certainly place industrial characters on a much higher standing in alliances than they currently enjoy.
Findail Fatal Cure 1	Posted - 2012.01.21 01:56:00 - [552] - Quote Crazy Jakk wrote: My favorite bit was when he said "enligsh". You know Enligsh is meant to have a capital letter, right? I don't think "Enligsh" is even a word. Guess it is now - you just invented it. Wish I could invent a word
KrakizBad Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension 238	Posted - 2012.01.21 02:00:00 - [553] - Quote Ah, the USTZ bears are logging on now and the tears are flowing anew. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/39006524/DumbHiseccers.jpg
Poloturion Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire 5	Posted - 2012.01.21 02:16:00 - [554] - Quote Findail wrote: The point is that you're whining about what you perceive as a "broken mechanic" when it doesn't appear to be, then you defend the unbalanced nature of moon mining or wormholes as being ok. So it's very much a case of wanting stuff that doesn't directly affect you nerfed, while leaving your own income source alone, even though it could be balanced out a lot better than it currently is. Sounds like the hisec mission rewards whine all over again. Pretty funny really, considering the t3 market has exploded because of incursion runners. They sure buy a LOT of t3 ships. So what you're really saying is that you want the income of wormhole corps drastically reduced. While I'd agree that it's currently out of proportion to the risk, that move might be too drastic to allow them all to survive. But if market injection of isk is REALLY what concerns you, what about faction items? They too are "created" items, that don't rely on market mechanics to produce. Same goes for faction blueprints. To switch to a purely player driven market would have quite an impact on the game. It would create new career options for invention, but the whining from 0.0 alliances wanting to faction fit cap ships would be huge. Though having to invent faction items would certainly place industrial characters on a much higher standing in alliances than they currently enjoy. You say the mechanic isn't broken, then say things are out of balance compared to risk further on ... I don't think isk rewards should be removed entirely from incursions, just swung in the other directions so it is a secondary reward to something creating game-play like LP markets. You don't get it do you? Faction item drops or BPCs are not isk injections. It still requires the movement of expensive items in potentially risky situations to markets where the player has to then sell the item.
Sin Istersly Pinnacle Services Coalition The-Nation 21	Posted - 2012.01.21 02:42:00 - [555] - Quote Crazy Jakk wrote: Sin Istersly wrote: Hoxothul wrote: Sin Istersly wrote: Lysaeus wrote: So you find the deaths of others satisfying? Do find the meaning inbetween 'frighteningly' and the end of the sentence without reading the whole thing? Or do you just like to cut and paste others words to make them mean what you want? I said it was horrific, try reading it again, this time slowly, you might actually understand it this time. So much back peddling! Backpeddling would imply I took back something I said. I didnt change a damn thing. Do you guys even speak enligsh or is it a second language to you? Once again, try reading it over, more slowly, maybe even google the big words you dont understand. My favorite bit was when he said "enligsh". You know Enligsh is meant to have a capital letter, right? I'm sorry I didn't spell check myself more closely, you've already made it apparent you cant understand a clearly made point with the proper words though, so I see no point in putting any effort into remaking my point. Besides, your going to read and think whatever you wish anyway. "Oh my world just fell apart, the trolls on the forums have a low opinion of me. Excuse me while I go kill myself." /sarcasm +5 Lol morons. I made an accidental spelling error, granted. That however can be fixed. Your ignorance and stupidity however is a permanent condition. I certainly hope you didnt pay for your educations. If you did, you got ripped off. I've stated twice I dont beat children, or condone it. I do however spank mine when they have it coming. It's the most definitive way I know of to keep them from growing up into people like you, assuming your grown up, which guessing from your comments, is quite unlikely.
Endeavour Starfleet Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 603	Posted - 2012.01.21 02:47:00 - [556] - Quote The BTL leadership decided that they didn't like people pointing out their utter failure to defend incursions and calls for new leadership and is issuing bans. BTL needs to be replaced. Or it's leadership removed. And I hope these interdiction efforts continue until they are forced to.
Llyona SKEET ELITE Sk33t Fl33t 2	Posted - 2012.01.21 03:45:00 - [557] - Quote I did some investigation earlier today and I have come to the conclusion that this is a poorly thought out campaign and I will explain why I think this. Essentially the main gripe seems to be that High sec incursions should not be as lucrative as they are. Some solutions suggested for CCP to apply to the current incursion system were: Have high sec isk payouts reduced Replace isk payouts with another form of compensation Moving incursions out of high sec entirely Now, whether you agree with these solutions or not is immaterial, as they are already happening. Essentially the current campaign's goal of having CCP reduce or move incursions has already been accomplished by the actions of the participants themselves. Shutting down high sec incursion sites once the mothership appears, effectively reduces the amount of isk that can be farmed from a constellation. This is especially true since a new incursion will not take place for up to 24 hours after it's predecessor closes, thus only allowing low/null sec incursions to continue operating. This only validates the sentiment that the current incursion system is operating as designed and need not be repaired by CCP, since any group of players of sufficient size can effectively end an incursion once the mothership appears.
Theodoric Darkwind PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore 108	Posted - 2012.01.21 03:45:00 - [558] - Quote drdxie wrote: Tian Nu wrote: OldMan Gana wrote: They should move incursions to npc null or at the very least- 0.2 system. Those of us who live in NPC null run the odd angel mission here and there, have one eye on the mission and a bigger eye on local, and there's folks in hi sec running isk farming machines risk free from any hassle? Don't think so. this made me lol if you dont make huge isk in null quit now. There are incursion in lower sec areas.. no one runs them cause you wouldn't be able to trust your own fleet as you all in it for the easy KM.. and that's why you messing with the carebears cause finally they have a way to make easy isk like all the null corps... your just jealous... Some of us do run low/null incursions, and get payouts that the highseccers can only dream of. No trust issues when the entire fleet is alliancemates or blues. nice to see NO ACTIVE HIGHSEC INCURSIONS
Surfin's PlunderBunny Ponies for the Ethical Treatment of Asteroids 857	Posted - 2012.01.21 04:33:00 - [559] - Quote Theodoric Darkwind wrote: drdxie wrote: Tian Nu wrote: OldMan Gana wrote: They should move incursions to npc null or at the very least- 0.2 system. Those of us who live in NPC null run the odd angel mission here and there, have one eye on the mission and a bigger eye on local, and there's folks in hi sec running isk farming machines risk free from any hassle? Don't think so. this made me lol if you dont make huge isk in null quit now. There are incursion in lower sec areas.. no one runs them cause you wouldn't be able to trust your own fleet as you all in it for the easy KM.. and that's why you messing with the carebears cause finally they have a way to make easy isk like all the null corps... your just jealous... Some of us do run low/null incursions, and get payouts that the highseccers can only dream of. No trust issues when the entire fleet is alliancemates or blues. nice to see NO ACTIVE HIGHSEC INCURSIONS The bears decided to head out to a 0.0 incursion while we were in the process of shutting them down... apparently they all died horribly
Keith Planck The Great and Powerful Corporation 54	Posted - 2012.01.21 05:44:00 - [560] - Quote I got a Q train going... Aoki Katsumoto > [05:39:29] Ortan Murdak > Keith Planck > KingCepheus > Katen Love > Keith Planck > Jeune > Keith Planck > Me of Course > [05:35:37] Keith Planck > fridayx13th > Keith Planck > Jubis Moonjuice > [05:34:42] Keith Planck... "so i gues the brick squad was serious" <-- original Curse you CCP and your character limits!!! You still havn't convinced the incursion leaders though, they've seen this kind of **** go on for several months xD http://mlfw.info/f/192/ still waiting for that secret plan darius

Daisai Taurus Quantum Technologies Taurus Quantum Dynamics 9	Posted - 2012.01.21 08:46:00 - [561] - Quote Krissada wrote: Before words ---- Yes, it's this thread again. No, it's not just empty words. This was posted many days ago, but I decided to take it down to have some chats with a few selected people before finalizing everything. _____________________ We have come to the conclusion that even though blackbird suicide ganking is a profitable and very fun activity it only limits the Incursion Bear activities by some degree. If we are to end their reign once and for all which has lasted for almost a year it is time we do it now. We would like to announce the creation of a wonderful and most generous channel named: "Grief the Bears" with the sole purpose of taking down all motherships in highsec as soon as they appear and end the incursion just like CCP intended.... We shall put an end to this inhuman farming and abuse of game mechanics. We have to put a gag to this ISK faucet and shake up those bears. If they wanna do incursions they can go to lowsec or nullsec. What do we require and why do we need you? 30-40 bodies to effectively fight off the site and finish it. Armor buffer fit battleships and a handful subbattleships. T2 logistic ships. Empty tear jars. So join us at the channel ----> Grief the Bears and let us finally put an end to all this. Once all the highsec incursions are down they will not respawn for another 24+ hours. When that one will spawn it will only take the bears 4-5 hours to make the mothership appear and then we shall sweep in yet again and finish it. Can you imagine highsec where the bears only get to incursion 15-20 hours for a whole week? I can and it is filled with tears.... PS: Beware that extracting a sufficient amount of tears will result in merc wardecs hired by rich bears. I see this as a side bonus! _______________ Above is the simple plan. We cannot keep on waiting and whining to CCP. We are taking matters into our own hands with or without you. If you want to join, feel free to. If you rather not that is fine too. But if you want to whine and complain because we are stopping the ISK faucet then make sure you are crying into one of our jars. Fly much reckless Gl trying to get people to fly with someone like you.
Vaerah Vahrokha Vahrokh Consulting 145	Posted - 2012.01.21 11:05:00 - [562] - Quote Findail wrote: But if market injection of isk is REALLY what concerns you, what about faction items? They too are "created" items, that don't rely on market mechanics to produce. Same goes for faction blueprints. To switch to a purely player driven market would have quite an impact on the game. It would create new career options for invention, but the whining from 0.0 alliances wanting to faction fit cap ships would be huge. Though having to invent faction items would certainly place industrial characters on a much higher standing in alliances than they currently enjoy. For what I recall there were three and only three ISK faucets left: 1) Bounties (missioning + ratting + exploration) 2) NPC buy orders for commodities 3) Insurance As of now it is more like: 1) Bounties (incursions + missioning + ratting + exploration + anoms) 2) Very few NPC buy orders left 3) Insurance has been nerfed In the future CCP seems to replace drones mineral drops with more ISK, further augmenting 1) Everything else, EVERYTHING is an ISK sink. This includes - faction modules (LP + ISK get sunk), - PI (zero ISK created, fees visibly sink ISK) - mining (zero ISK created, fees at refining (if not optimal) + fees when selling sink ISK) - moon mining (zero ISK created, fees for upkeeping sov or to pay charters => ISK sink) - trading (zero ISK created, fees at every transaction sink ISK) Therefore even the "big money makers" like trading and moon mining don't ruin the EvE economy, because (huge) amounts of ISK only switch hands, they don't get created out of thin air. Considering how: - missioning has been nerfed like 3 times in the last years - ratting income is an o(missioning) and the possible faction / officer drops are not an ISK faucet, - exploration is mostly blitzed (little ISK faucet) - anomalies have been nerfed to the point that CCP reconsidered the nerf. What's left out that could be hit by a nerf? You guessed it, incursions. Since CCP has the statistics about hi / low and null sec game features in the form of ISK:EHP they may decide which of them to nerf and how. The first change that comes to mind is indeed to slow them down and force the end boss to be killed.
Sin Istersly Pinnacle Services Coalition The-Nation 24	Posted - 2012.01.21 11:09:00 - [563] - Quote Theodoric Darkwind wrote: drdxie wrote: Tian Nu wrote: OldMan Gana wrote: They should move incursions to npc null or at the very least- 0.2 system. Those of us who live in NPC null run the odd angel mission here and there, have one eye on the mission and a bigger eye on local, and there's folks in hi sec running isk farming machines risk free from any hassle? Don't think so. this made me lol if you dont make huge isk in null quit now. There are incursion in lower sec areas.. no one runs them cause you wouldn't be able to trust your own fleet as you all in it for the easy KM.. and that's why you messing with the carebears cause finally they have a way to make easy isk like all the null corps... your just jealous... Some of us do run low/null incursions, and get payouts that the highseccers can only dream of. No trust issues when the entire fleet is alliancemates or blues. nice to see NO ACTIVE HIGHSEC INCURSIONS I find it interesting then that the lowsec nullsec crybabies are complaining. If lowsec and nullsec pays even better as you say, then what are you guys whining about? Highsec incursions would seem to pay the least, and the low/nullsec crybabies are capable of using the same option as the highsec incursioneers do and farm isk from their local incursion. Infact, it's even less risky when the incursion is deep inside your own territorially owned null space. Null already has the potential for extreme amounts of isk, and it sounds like from what you said that you make even more from incursions in low/null sec then the highseccers do. Thank you for throwing your own "It's the risk vs reward" arguement out the window and exposing yourselves for the self righteous stuck up douschebags you really are. Clearly, and I hope the people who hadnt realized it by now can see it, you null/low sec crybabies are just bitching that theirs a new way for capsuleers to make isk without putting them in your territory to gank. If it wasnt transparent enough already (which it was) this idiot has just confirmed it. Besides, anyone with half a brain can sit in game and watch how long it takes for the low/null sec incursions to be closed out in the journal. I for one have noticed that while some of the highsec incursions are now gone, the same low/nullsec incursions that we're their a month ago are still ongoing. At the least your a bunch of tear jerking hipocrits, if not a bunch of spoiled, power tripping golden spooned candy ass tantrum throwing wah-bulances.
Hoxothul Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire 17	Posted - 2012.01.21 11:53:00 - [564] - Quote Holy crap Sin Istersly, you must be freaking brain damaged, I mean seriously, did you take a blow to your head as a child? We are not nullsec players, we are highsec and wormhole dwellers.
Mikal Red Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire 4	Posted - 2012.01.21 11:58:00 - [565] - Quote Sin Istersly wrote: I bet you dont keep an eye on local while your running incursions What's this local you speak of?
Grey Azorria Federation Industries 19	Posted - 2012.01.21 12:18:00 - [566] - Quote Sin Istersly wrote: Thank you for throwing your own "It's the risk vs reward" arguement out the window and exposing yourselves for the self righteous stuck up douschebags you really are. Not in the slightest, while it is true that low sec and null sec incursions do offer higher rewards they also come with much more risk. Hi sec incursions on the other hand carry next to no risk, and still have a huge reward. So I put it to you that it is in fact you who is the self righteous D-bag, also, L2Math. Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
JamesCLK Lone Star Exploration Lone Star Partners 31	Posted - 2012.01.21 12:22:00 - [567] - Quote From what I understand, the issue of site farming bears less impact in lowsec and particularly 0.0. In lowsec, "farming" the incursion sites before killing the mothership is generally inadvisable due to the supposed 'risk' of interference from pirates or other nasty people over an extended period of time; you want to get in and out of filthy pirate space and back to farming hisec sites with as few PVP related losses as possible. This may or may not change depending on how desperate people become during this so called 'blockade'. In 0.0, you have a different issue. Let's for argument's sake consider 0.0 space as risk-free as empire - for the denizens that live in a blue territory; the problem isn't about how long you can farm the incursion in this instance, but how often you get a new incursion inside your territory (blue space). Incursions don't stay in the same constelations and there can only be so many at once; this puts a territory imposed limit on how many hours or sites an organisation can complete over any extended period of time. The payout might be a bit higher, but you can't run these things 23/7. Meanwhile, in hisec, incursioneers are (or should I say 'were') enjoying the ability to farm incursions constantly with no risk for interuption beyond potential traitors in the fleet. BIG difference in long term payout. Hourly income in incursions should not be affected, rather it should be the length at which such farming can be sustained that needs reconsidering. Whether or not lowsec or 0.0 incursions need a nerf though, is a different topic (this one is about hisec only). I don't know why but the hisec incursion organisations remind me so much of the 'end-game' players in SWTOR. To this extent, props to the guys and gals participating in the blockade, you're what EVE is all about
Lord Vega TAU CETI CENTER 1	Posted - 2012.01.21 12:30:00 - [568] - Quote Blocking highsec incursions and thinking all the carebears will move out and do lowsec incursions are NOT gonna happen. If you are thinking it will procure more pvp for the station huggers in low you are sorely mistaken. The bears will stay in empire or quit the game as they always had, reducing the eve playerbase.. What are you excactly gaining from blocking the highsec incursions? other than wrecking the game.. i mean, is there a personal gain to this that is actually within the reach of viable? in a couple of months when its all shut down or youll be tired to run a blockade, then what have you gained?
Krissada Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 78	Posted - 2012.01.21 12:34:00 - [569] - Quote Lord Vega wrote: Blocking highsec incursions and thinking all the carebears will move out and do lowsec incursions are NOT gonna happen. If you are thinking it will procure more pvp for the station huggers in low you are sorely mistaken. The bears will stay in empire or quit the game as they always had, reducing the eve playerbase.. What are you excactly gaining from blocking the highsec incursions? other than wrecking the game.. i mean, is there a personal gain to this that is actually within the reach of viable? in a couple of months when its all shut down or youll be tired to run a blockade, then what have you gained? Implying no actual PvPers have gone to highsec to do incursions. Who cares about the carebears anyway they can't fight for ****.
Lord Vega TAU CETI CENTER 1	Posted - 2012.01.21 12:36:00 - [570] - Quote Krissada wrote: Lord Vega wrote: Blocking highsec incursions and thinking all the carebears will move out and do lowsec incursions are NOT gonna happen. If you are thinking it will procure more pvp for the station huggers in low you are sorely mistaken. The bears will stay in empire or quit the game as they always had, reducing the eve playerbase.. What are you excactly gaining from blocking the highsec incursions? other than wrecking the game.. i mean, is there a personal gain to this that is actually within the reach of viable? in a couple of months when its all shut down or youll be tired to run a blockade, then what have you gained? Implying no actual PvPers have gone to highsec to do incursions. Who cares about the carebears anyway they can't fight for ****. Can i take that answer as "nothing" ?



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