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Andy Sharvas
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2012.01.10 12:47:00 -
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Pierre LaFayette wrote:So what is to stop the bears from gathering a few BB fleets and use them against your romps against the mom sites? Tears could flow both ways.
Good luck. We always fly with lots of projected ECCM. Lots and lots and lots. I'd like to see you try though.
Anyone with a wardec or player agression timer won't be getting reps. Feel free to run the site without reps though.
@Senn: Logi will be covered by LFARM and possibly a few good friends. Guardians are welcome to show up, but I'm making sure that if some griefer guardians decide to bug out, it won't affect things too much. |

Buruk Utama
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
75
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Posted - 2012.01.10 12:57:00 -
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Oh please fly mothership sites pvp fitted and record the outcome. |

Roxwar
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.01.10 13:10:00 -
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I not somebody who knows much about incursions, but removing the mothership will at worst force the incursion runners to jump 5/10/15/20 systems to the next one right and farm that one until the mom appears again, rinse and repeat.
How is that going to anything other that slightly inconvenience the incursion runners? http://roxwar.blogspot.com/ |

Andy Sharvas
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2012.01.10 13:17:00 -
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Roxwar wrote:I not somebody who knows much about incursions, but removing the mothership will at worst force the incursion runners to jump 5/10/15/20 systems to the next one right and farm that one until the mom appears again, rinse and repeat.
How is that going to anything other that slightly inconvenience the incursion runners?
We're not just killing one. We're killing all of them. Consecutively. Then doing so again when they respawn in a day or so (giving the regular incursion runners a few hours to fill up the blue bar first) Then again. Repeat until bored. |

Soho Joe
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.01.10 13:24:00 -
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Roxwar wrote:I not somebody who knows much about incursions, but removing the mothership will at worst force the incursion runners to jump 5/10/15/20 systems to the next one right and farm that one until the mom appears again, rinse and repeat.
How is that going to anything other that slightly inconvenience the incursion runners?
But here is the deal, BTL has been trying to make incursions exclusive to their ELITE group for a long time and If you get out of line they act all huffy and important. And they will farm a site for days on end, then when mom appears they will war dec and ban you OMG! from BTL channels, if you form a mom fleet.
I approve of OP's plan hope you get massive amounts of BTL tears, and as far as the ship replacement fund...LMFAO!!! Its just another Bullshit scam to get the FC,s more isk. I say killem all (In Game that is) |

Lady Ayeipsia
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Cascade Imminent
18
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Posted - 2012.01.10 14:17:00 -
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I don't fully understand the incursion farming techniques. Still, couldn't the bears just not spawn the,mom and farm the sites prior to? |

Andy Sharvas
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2012.01.10 14:21:00 -
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Lady Ayeipsia wrote:I don't fully understand the incursion farming techniques. Still, couldn't the bears just not spawn the,mom and farm the sites prior to?
The mothership spawns when enough non-mothership sites have been run. The only way not to spawn it would be to not farm the incursion sites. |

knobber Jobbler
United Highsec Front The 99 Percent
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Posted - 2012.01.10 15:21:00 -
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So to stop those nasty carebears doing incursions, you're going to do them instead?
Doesn't that make you carebears doing incursions as well?
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Zixie Draco
Tactical Knightmare
33
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Posted - 2012.01.10 15:43:00 -
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...so many mad people, so many. Would you like a kitten? |

Typherian
Legio Invicta Many Reckless Corps
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Posted - 2012.01.10 16:03:00 -
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Do it and post the rage chat logs somewhere. Farm their tears the same way they farm incursions. |

Krissada
Lead Farmers Academy Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2012.01.10 16:53:00 -
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knobber Jobbler wrote:So to stop those nasty carebears doing incursions, you're going to do them instead?
Doesn't that make you carebears doing incursions as well?
Says the carebear from the "united highsec front" ... 
The short answer is no.
The longer answer is also no. |

Londor Rogers
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.10 17:06:00 -
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Great idea Im in I hope we can make this work. |

Lakshata Chawla
Imperial Guardians
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Posted - 2012.01.10 17:10:00 -
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Last time this happened there was rage and deaththreats on the guy that did it so have fun. I will be out of an isk faucet till you get bored, but most of BTL sucks anyways. |

Asurymen
The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2012.01.10 18:22:00 -
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Guardian pilot signing in, I'm all for making people rage. |

Sizeof Void
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
134
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Posted - 2012.01.10 19:30:00 -
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Wouldn't you generate more tears by ganking the Orca's which the full-time Incursion runners use to haul their PVE ships from one site to another?
Also, I'm curious as to why you previously used blackbirds and ECM to jam logi ships, rather than a couple of Mitten's patented gank-fit Brutix's (or perhaps even a small gang of dessies) to pop them instead? Forcing a logi off the field isn't nearly as effective as blowing them up, esp. over the long term. The Incursion fleet would need to replace them before continuing farming - which is a bit more expensive and problematic than replacing BS shooters. |

Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
136
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Posted - 2012.01.10 19:43:00 -
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I approve of this product/service/endeavour.
Emergent game-play in action--dig it, baby! I A/F/K cloak in Jita. Does that count? |

Poloturion
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2012.01.10 19:46:00 -
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Sizeof Void wrote:Wouldn't you generate more tears by ganking the Orca's which the full-time Incursion runners use to haul their PVE ships from one site to another?
Well that would require waiting for the bears to end the incursion. If only we had a way to know when the bears would be hauling their shinies ... 
Sizeof Void wrote:Also, I'm curious as to why you previously used blackbirds and ECM to jam logi ships, rather than a couple of Mitten's patented gank-fit Brutix's (or perhaps even a small gang of dessies) to pop them instead?
It takes less resources to jam a logi than gank it, and you can do it with concord on grid. You also take less sec status hit since all you are doing is aggressing them. |

Andy Sharvas
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2012.01.10 19:53:00 -
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Sizeof Void wrote:Wouldn't you generate more tears by ganking the Orca's which the full-time Incursion runners use to haul their PVE ships from one site to another?
Not necessarily. Besides, there are people who already do that, and you don't get to see what's in the SMA or CHA or a dead orca.
Quote: Also, I'm curious as to why you previously used blackbirds and ECM to jam logi ships, rather than a couple of Mitten's patented gank-fit Brutix's (or perhaps even a small gang of dessies) to pop them instead? Forcing a logi off the field isn't nearly as effective as blowing them up, esp. over the long term. The Incursion fleet would need to replace them before continuing farming - which is a bit more expensive and problematic than replacing BS shooters.
Expense, reliability,, and fun. Logis in a site are very tough targets to take down. They move fast, have high resists and decent buffer. Its possible to suicide gank them, but it tends to be more work than its worth, and costs a lot more than a group of blackbirds.
Also, when we started, nobody really realized why there were suddenly 12 blackbirds in their OTA. A group of alpha tempests warping in would have been a fairly obvious suicide gank fleet. |

Sizeof Void
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
134
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Posted - 2012.01.10 20:04:00 -
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Poloturion wrote:Sizeof Void wrote:Wouldn't you generate more tears by ganking the Orca's which the full-time Incursion runners use to haul their PVE ships from one site to another? Well that would require waiting for the bears to end the incursion. If only we had a way to know when the bears would be hauling their shinies ...  Good point. FYI, I had just read Jester's blog - "The caravan of the heavens" - which is what put the idea in my head.
Poloturion wrote:Sizeof Void wrote:Also, I'm curious as to why you previously used blackbirds and ECM to jam logi ships, rather than a couple of Mitten's patented gank-fit Brutix's (or perhaps even a small gang of dessies) to pop them instead? It takes less resources to jam a logi than gank it, and you can do it with concord on grid. You also take less sec status hit since all you are doing is aggressing them. Another good point. I sometimes forget about the sec status hit - it doesn't mean much when you are already below -5.
BTW - regarding Concord, you can always pull them off grid prior to your attack. The Goon pilots did this very effectively during their Gallente ice interdiction, simply by undocking in a noob frig, doing something bad to attract Concord away from the ice field, and then launching their suicide attack on the mining ship. |

Freundliches Feuer
The Deadman Project
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Posted - 2012.01.10 20:10:00 -
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Best thread/idea ever! Im in, joining channel as we speak. |

Tore Vest
Vikinghall
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Posted - 2012.01.10 20:13:00 -
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Sizeof Void
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
134
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Posted - 2012.01.10 20:14:00 -
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Andy Sharvas wrote:Also, when we started, nobody really realized why there were suddenly 12 blackbirds in their OTA. A group of alpha tempests warping in would have been a fairly obvious suicide gank fleet. lol... true enough!
Perhaps you should try the same thing with a bunch of Badger II's? :) |

Bernie Nator
Insidious Design Talocan United
55
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Posted - 2012.01.10 20:15:00 -
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I say you just jam them all. With raspberry. :3 |

FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks Petition Blizzard
746
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Posted - 2012.01.10 20:34:00 -
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If I'm ever actually around when this is happening, I'll be there.
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Krissada
Lead Farmers Academy Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2012.01.10 20:40:00 -
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snipe!
EDIT: Failed miserably.
Regardless we have just had the first few tear donations in our channel. It was beautiful. They compared us to goons and said we would fail miserably just like they did when they attempted the first thing. One of them literally said that we would die in a fire like they did. I think these arrogant incurbears have misunderstood something. We are the ones that kill it with fire - not the other way around 
"Me 1st" wrote: if u think ur gona waltz in and pop moms wiht a bunch of randoms i cant wait to watch u burn.
"Fellios Method " wrote: so the creation of this channel is a resulting of a bunch of butthurt monkeys that can't figure out how to make their own isk Fellios Method > goons tried this **** that you monkeys are trying to pull once and they died horribly in a fire
PS: To any moderator this is not posting chat logs. I am simply quoting the crybabies. |

TalonKarrde84
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.01.10 20:51:00 -
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This tired old song?
Didn't you guys learn when Goons lost all those tech moons trying to pop our moms?
I'm gonna level with you guys. As spacerich as incursions have made us, blitzing sites for hours on end does get a little dull (we organize pvp roams just to break up the monotony of all that isk pouring into our wallets). 
I thank you in advance for the entertainment, and look forward to seeing your comical wipes on Kundalini Manifest sites. 
That is, assuming that the 80% of people in this thread with incursion alts are actually willing to lose the income. 
Posting on my main, btw.  |

Callous Jade
Narcissistic Ventures
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Posted - 2012.01.10 20:56:00 -
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TalonKarrde84 wrote:This tired old song? Didn't you guys learn when Goons lost all those tech moons trying to pop our moms? I'm gonna level with you guys. As spacerich as incursions have made us, blitzing sites for hours on end does get a little dull (we organize pvp roams just to break up the monotony of all that isk pouring into our wallets).  I thank you in advance for the entertainment, and look forward to seeing your comical wipes on Kundalini Manifest sites.  That is, assuming that the 80% of people in this thread with incursion alts are actually willing to lose the income.  Posting on my main, btw. 
Look out guys, he does peeveepee roams and has a whopping 2 kills to show for it... |

Freundliches Feuer
The Deadman Project
0
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Posted - 2012.01.10 21:00:00 -
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ohnoes... |

TalonKarrde84
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.10 21:08:00 -
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Callous Jade wrote:TalonKarrde84 wrote:This tired old song? Didn't you guys learn when Goons lost all those tech moons trying to pop our moms? I'm gonna level with you guys. As spacerich as incursions have made us, blitzing sites for hours on end does get a little dull (we organize pvp roams just to break up the monotony of all that isk pouring into our wallets).  I thank you in advance for the entertainment, and look forward to seeing your comical wipes on Kundalini Manifest sites.  That is, assuming that the 80% of people in this thread with incursion alts are actually willing to lose the income.  Posting on my main, btw.  Look out guys, he does peeveepee roams and has a whopping 2 kills to show for it...
Implying Falcons with no weapons fitted end up on tons of killmails  |

Alua Oresson
The Dominion of Light BLACK-MARK
56
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Posted - 2012.01.10 21:16:00 -
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TalonKarrde84 wrote:Implying Falcons with no weapons fitted end up on tons of killmails 
If you are doing it right and using ECM modules on the Falcon, yes, you will end up on the killmails. Hell, I've whored onto killmails with ECM drones on a TCU kill. |
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