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Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
19
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Posted - 2012.01.21 12:36:00 -
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Lord Vega wrote:in a couple of months when its all shut down or youll be tired to run a blockade, then what have you gained? We would have gained lulz Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience. |

Krissada
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
79
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Posted - 2012.01.21 12:39:00 -
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Lord Vega wrote:Krissada wrote:Lord Vega wrote:Blocking highsec incursions and thinking all the carebears will move out and do lowsec incursions are NOT gonna happen. If you are thinking it will procure more pvp for the station huggers in low you are sorely mistaken.
The bears will stay in empire or quit the game as they always had, reducing the eve playerbase..
What are you excactly gaining from blocking the highsec incursions? other than wrecking the game.. i mean, is there a personal gain to this that is actually within the reach of viable?
in a couple of months when its all shut down or youll be tired to run a blockade, then what have you gained? Implying no actual PvPers have gone to highsec to do incursions. Who cares about the carebears anyway they can't fight for ****.  Can i take that answer as "nothing" ?
For your level of reading comprehension? Yes, that probably means nothing. |

Lord Vega
TAU CETI CENTER
1
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Posted - 2012.01.21 12:40:00 -
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Krissada wrote:Lord Vega wrote:Krissada wrote:Lord Vega wrote:Blocking highsec incursions and thinking all the carebears will move out and do lowsec incursions are NOT gonna happen. If you are thinking it will procure more pvp for the station huggers in low you are sorely mistaken.
The bears will stay in empire or quit the game as they always had, reducing the eve playerbase..
What are you excactly gaining from blocking the highsec incursions? other than wrecking the game.. i mean, is there a personal gain to this that is actually within the reach of viable?
in a couple of months when its all shut down or youll be tired to run a blockade, then what have you gained? Implying no actual PvPers have gone to highsec to do incursions. Who cares about the carebears anyway they can't fight for ****.  Can i take that answer as "nothing" ? For your level of reading comprehension? Yes, that probably means nothing.
I got a good level of comprehension, i just didnt want to read 30 pages and make a qualified conclusion like the rest..
im just asking the topic starter a simple question he can not answer publically apparently.
fyi: pvp'ers that have gone to highsec for incursions are carebears, just to clarify your comprehension. |

Krissada
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
79
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Posted - 2012.01.21 12:45:00 -
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Lord Vega wrote: I got a good level of comprehension, i just didnt want to read 30 pages and make a qualified conclusion like the rest..
im just asking the topic starter a simple question he can not answer publically apparently.
Oh dear. Since I am in a good mood lately I will cut it out for you. Yes, we are achieving our goals, but we are no where done yet.
Those pilots who once went to lowsec, nullsec or w-space but came to highsec to do incursions are going back because there are no incursions. I spot with my eye many of these in the incursion channels 
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Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
264
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Posted - 2012.01.21 12:47:00 -
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I fully endorse this product and/or service. Good on you all, keep those incursiosn short and sweet lads. Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |

JamesCLK
Lone Star Exploration Lone Star Partners
31
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Posted - 2012.01.21 12:55:00 -
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Since when does anyone need a reason to do whatever they want in EVE? It's all about perspective.
I think this isn't as much about "we want carebears to move to 0.0, derp" as it is "FFS CCP, 600 billion ISK a week from hisec incursion faucets, with no risk?! UNACCEPTABLE! :froth:". Even then it's more likely just to be "for the luls, we want tears".
I'd love to actually get some numbers on how much ISK is being injected into the economy from lowsec and 0.0 incursions though.
Emergent gameplay, where's the problem? |

Lord Vega
TAU CETI CENTER
1
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Posted - 2012.01.21 13:05:00 -
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It still seems most of the goals from this are directly whine, the few answers i got point more to the removal of highsec incursions because the low and nullsec people are butthurt over carebears are making isk.
It was the same with missions, anoms ect. ect.
Your answer did not satisfy my question as its just a goal and not what you will have gained from this goal. If its more presence in low/null, why not say that.. im still saying that its not gonna happen for the bears, which you directing this whole thing against in your first post.
Can i conclude your only gain are low to some movement of previous pvp'ers to null and low and some lulz then?
else feel free to fill up some more arguments as this is such a good beneficial idea for the eve community as you so proclaim.
edit: seeing as good reasons are not excactly raining from the skies, ill give this project about 2 weeks before it dies out due to no direct gain or goal... Seeing a somewhat recruitment for it already tells me you have a problem getting people for your fleets. |

Mikal Red
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
5
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Posted - 2012.01.21 13:34:00 -
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Lord Vega wrote:edit: seeing as good reasons are not excactly raining from the skies Good reason - it's fun to see the self entitled brat's in BTL Pub et al. cry and whine over the fact that their no-risk ISK printing method is now not viable for the foreseeable duration.
Cause and effect.
Lord Vega wrote:Seeing a somewhat recruitment for it already tells me you have a problem getting people for your fleets. Ahahaha, you are just pulling crap out of thin air now. There have been no problems getting people from the main runners of this in the fleets. |

Lord Vega
TAU CETI CENTER
1
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Posted - 2012.01.21 13:40:00 -
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Mikal Red wrote:Lord Vega wrote:edit: seeing as good reasons are not excactly raining from the skies Good reason - it's fun to see the self entitled brat's in BTL Pub et al. cry and whine over the fact that their no-risk ISK printing method is now not viable for the foreseeable duration. Cause and effect.
Stop assuming things that are incorrect and start posting on it, else feel free to quote me on that.
Only strengthenen my theory on your lack of gain from this, seeing as your only argument are still whine over risk vs reward. Im only trying to determine how useless this project is, so i can plan when my alt can run highsec incursions again. If the arguments are as poor as yours, that wont take long luckily. |

Mikal Red
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
5
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Posted - 2012.01.21 13:48:00 -
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Lord Vega wrote:Only strengthenen my theory on your lack of gain from this You really are dense aren't you? For me, as a person, the gain is the fun I get from playing EvE as intended inside the Sandbox.
There doesn't have to be any other gain, the game is here to be fun and that it's being. For me at least.
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fetter FurzFetisch
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.01.21 13:50:00 -
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looooooooooooooooooooooooooool, the mastecarebear wants all mom sites for himself. best try of a communityscam i saw for a long time....... whoever takes part on these fleets is ******** as hell. when will ppl stop whining about stuff around instead of fixing their own matters? |

Miranda Etxebarria
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.01.21 13:52:00 -
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Sin Istersly wrote:If I came along and popped your PVP ship before you could pop someone else, that's griefing even. I'm disrupting your plans.
No, that's called PvP. Happens all the time. You need to get out more.
Quote:The term griefing, within eve however, is mostly only applied to people who's PRIMARY intention is to disrupt someone elses planned actions. Your causing grief by changing those plans. It's a fairly simple concept, I dont see how your missing it.
Disrupting someone else's planned actions is called "playing the game". I'm a trader, when I buy stuff, my planned action may be to sell it at a 50% mark-up, under the assumption that all other traders in that market have something to gain by not slashing the prices. Nevertheless, it happens all the time (I do it myself if I feel I can gain something in the long run). Again, PvP.
I'm still pretty new to this game, but it is glaringly clear that you are not entitled to any kind of income or activity. You can-mine, someone can steal your stuff. You trade, someone can manipulate the markets or just annihilate your profit margin. You haul, someone can blow up your ship and steal your cargo. You want to PvP, someone can play endless station games. You want to wardec someone, they can hide behind a decshield. You want to farm incursions, someone can kill the mothership as soon as it appears. All working as intended.
PS: ppl who claim to need incursion ISK to PvP are dumb. And mostly lying. |

Lord Vega
TAU CETI CENTER
1
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Posted - 2012.01.21 14:00:00 -
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Mikal Red wrote:Lord Vega wrote:Only strengthenen my theory on your lack of gain from this You really are dense aren't you?  For me, as a person, the gain is the fun I get from playing EvE as intended inside the Sandbox. There doesn't have to be any other gain, the game is here to be fun and that it's being. For me at least.
That sounds great, that means my alt can return doing highsec incursions in about 2 weeks when your large griefing fleet required for this have lost its members to direct boredom, due to no gain but the lulz and apparently some returning players to low/null, which arent even meassureable and thus inconclusive. Unless a fruitful argument drops in.
until then i got some sec status to burn on suicides and other ganks, while this gets boring. |

Krissada
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
79
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Posted - 2012.01.21 14:02:00 -
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*cries while holding her golden award*
First I would like to thank these wonderful people from Kill it with fire, Bricks, Skunks and of course those hardworking people from C&P that showed up in our channel to fight alongside with us. *wipes tear away*
This could not have been done without you *sops* and by all means this is definitely not the end of it. We shall continue our crusade and hammer some sense into CCP's game and the head of these mindless incursion runners.
If an incursion spawns today then feel free to join in with us on either
a. Taking it down. b. Causing an immense amount of grief with suicide fleets.
To all those who had no faith in our ability. Well have you seen what we have accomplished so far? Threadnoughts everywhere, drama and tears everywhere and last but not least no incursion anywhere in highsec!  |

Lord Vega
TAU CETI CENTER
1
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Posted - 2012.01.21 14:02:00 -
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Miranda Etxebarria wrote:
PS: ppl who claim to need incursion ISK to PvP are dumb. And mostly lying.
What would the opposite argument be? ppl who claim highsec incursions are ruining pvp are dumb and mostly lying :) |

Lord Vega
TAU CETI CENTER
1
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Posted - 2012.01.21 14:05:00 -
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Krissada wrote: To all those who had no faith in our ability. Well have you seen what we have accomplished so far? Threadnoughts everywhere, drama and tears everywhere and last but not least no incursion anywhere in highsec! 
Your accomplishments amuses me, seeing you cant argument for why you are doing this :D
fyi: threadnaughts and drama made by you. |

Krissada
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
79
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Posted - 2012.01.21 14:21:00 -
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Lord Vega wrote:
fyi: threadnaughts and drama made by you.
You make me blush, sir! No comments I don't talk with faceless people. |

Krissada
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
79
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Posted - 2012.01.21 14:21:00 -
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Lord Vega wrote:
fyi: threadnaughts and drama made by you.
You make me blush, sir! No comments I don't talk with faceless people. (creeps me out) |

Lord Vega
TAU CETI CENTER
1
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Posted - 2012.01.21 14:26:00 -
[589] - Quote
Krissada wrote:Lord Vega wrote:
fyi: threadnaughts and drama made by you.
You make me blush, sir! No comments I don't talk with faceless people. (creeps me out)
In technical sense that is the same result as not being able to comment. |

Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
19
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Posted - 2012.01.21 14:30:00 -
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Lord Vega wrote:Your accomplishments amuses me, seeing you cant argument for why you are doing this :D
fyi: threadnaughts and drama made by you. Well not sure about you, but I cant argument about anything, and read the first post, the reasons are spelled out there.
(for the sake of the lazy/stupid) - hi-sec incursions create a huge reward with almost no risk, any comparable levels of income have a much higher amount of risk attached to them. In addition, the isk from incursions comes from thin air(space?) most other ways to earn isk transfer it from player to player. This is compounded by the fact that the mechanics involving the mothership and despawning incursions are broken, allowing the most profitable sites to be farmed for isk 23/7.
This is bad and it should stop, but CCP are waiting for the summer expantion to do anything about them (and even then, probably not enough). Therefore it falls upon the denizens of C&P to be a stopgap measure, the tears are just a bonus.
either that or simply just for lulz.  Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience. |

Lord Vega
TAU CETI CENTER
1
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Posted - 2012.01.21 14:39:00 -
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I still see no reason why you are butthurt over people in highsec makes less ISK than you.. what are you stopping besides the carebear income?
If mechanics are the problem you should also be closing ALL low and nullsec incursions as they also procure ISK out of thin air.
i can still only conclude you people are just butthurt, as the primary reason in this thread is "risk vs reward" and lulz. This entire thread is a big whine thread over broken mechanics, yet you seem to live on the carebear tears.
edit: also there is 7 returning players in my current corp now that came back from years of inactivity to try out incursions, 2 of them have already unsubbed... some gain. |

Sin Istersly
Pinnacle Services Coalition The-Nation
24
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Posted - 2012.01.21 14:54:00 -
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Hoxothul wrote:Holy crap Sin Istersly, you must be freaking brain damaged, I mean seriously, did you take a blow to your head as a child?
We are not nullsec players, we are highsec and wormhole dwellers.
I'm the one braindamaged when your the one who thinks that me referring specifically to the lowsec/nullsec players somehow included you?
Let me be more clear so you can understand, I wasnt directing those comments at you. |

Sin Istersly
Pinnacle Services Coalition The-Nation
24
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Posted - 2012.01.21 14:55:00 -
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Miranda Etxebarria wrote:Sin Istersly wrote:If I came along and popped your PVP ship before you could pop someone else, that's griefing even. I'm disrupting your plans. No, that's called PvP. Happens all the time. You need to get out more. Quote:The term griefing, within eve however, is mostly only applied to people who's PRIMARY intention is to disrupt someone elses planned actions. Your causing grief by changing those plans. It's a fairly simple concept, I dont see how your missing it. Disrupting someone else's planned actions is called "playing the game". I'm a trader, when I buy stuff, my planned action may be to sell it at a 50% mark-up, under the assumption that all other traders in that market have something to gain by not slashing the prices. Nevertheless, it happens all the time (I do it myself if I feel I can gain something in the long run). Again, PvP. I'm still pretty new to this game, but it is glaringly clear that you are not entitled to any kind of income or activity. You can-mine, someone can steal your stuff. You trade, someone can manipulate the markets or just annihilate your profit margin. You haul, someone can blow up your ship and steal your cargo. You want to PvP, someone can play endless station games. You want to wardec someone, they can hide behind a decshield. You want to farm incursions, someone can kill the mothership as soon as it appears. All working as intended. PS: ppl who claim to need incursion ISK to PvP are dumb. And mostly lying.
At what point in did I say it wasnt playing the game or that I'm against that? I didnt. |

Zackgar
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
13
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Posted - 2012.01.21 16:36:00 -
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Lol, now weve broken all your ISK printing machines in highsec, were going to our wormhome to play with our own  |

Jovan Geldon
SniggWaffe EVE Corporation 123566322353
287
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Posted - 2012.01.21 17:09:00 -
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Sin Istersly wrote:wordswordswords
That was an awful lot of typing you did there to basically say "blah blah grief blah blah my ~opinion~ blah blah STOP BEING NASTY TO EACH OTHER ON THE INTERNET IT HURTS MY FEELINGS ABLOO ABLOO"
Also your name is p. gay, just saying |

Nephilius
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
292
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Posted - 2012.01.21 17:11:00 -
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I support killing Moms!
Wait...that didn't sound right... If you bring down a giant, you're a hero. If you kill something weak-even if it has to die-then you will endure contempt. |

Llyona
SKEET ELITE Sk33t Fl33t
4
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Posted - 2012.01.21 17:24:00 -
[597] - Quote
Zackgar wrote:Lol, now weve broken all your ISK printing machines in highsec, were going to our wormhome to play with our own 
You are quite misinformed on what an isk faucet is. |

Krissada
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
79
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Posted - 2012.01.21 17:27:00 -
[598] - Quote
Llyona wrote:Zackgar wrote:Lol, now weve broken all your ISK printing machines in highsec, were going to our wormhome to play with our own  You are quite misinformed on what an isk faucet is.
He didn't say faucet. He said ISK printing machine, it's a relative term.  |

Tiye Q
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.01.21 17:44:00 -
[599] - Quote
Grey Azorria wrote:Lord Vega wrote:Your accomplishments amuses me, seeing you cant argument for why you are doing this :D
fyi: threadnaughts and drama made by you. Well not sure about you, but I cant argument about anything, and read the first post, the reasons are spelled out there. (for the sake of the lazy/stupid) - hi-sec incursions create a huge reward with almost no risk, any comparable levels of income have a much higher amount of risk attached to them. In addition, the isk from incursions comes from thin air(space?) most other ways to earn isk transfer it from player to player. This is compounded by the fact that the mechanics involving the mothership and despawning incursions are broken, allowing the most profitable sites to be farmed for isk 23/7. This is bad and it should stop, but CCP are waiting for the summer expantion to do anything about them (and even then, probably not enough). Therefore it falls upon the denizens of C&P to be a stopgap measure, the tears are just a bonus. either that or simply just for lulz. 
Not true. Try running an incursion (anywhere, hi/lo/null) with no logi. Almost no risk is soloing a level 4 with a local tank. Vanguard sites require 2-3 logi pilots. No logi means you have a 100% chance of losing your ships. There is plenty of risk there, and this is not to mention that most people will be meeting their logi pilots for the first time in a pickup fleet. Another risk.
I have seen grand displays of cognitive dissonance displayed by those who have nothing but hate in their heart for incursions and incursion runners.
Those who are currently griefing, etc... do not have the mental fortitude or dexterity to keep their efforts up. Generally if you hold up something else that is shiny, it will get their attention. This happened previously with lvl 4 missions, wh's, and ice.... |

Zackgar
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
13
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Posted - 2012.01.21 17:51:00 -
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Llyona wrote:Zackgar wrote:Lol, now weve broken all your ISK printing machines in highsec, were going to our wormhome to play with our own  You are quite misinformed on what an isk faucet is.
Sleeper blue loot, sold to npc buy orders, injects raw ISK into the game. So despite not saying that, it is also true. YFW you realise that not only are you misinformed as to how wormholes work, your also misinformed as to how reading works as well.
Also you are mad... I like that... |
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