Not true. Try running an incursion (anywhere, hi/lo/null) with no logi. Almost no risk is soloing a level 4 with a local tank. Vanguard sites require 2-3 logi pilots. No logi means you have a 100% chance of losing your ships. There is plenty of risk there, and this is not to mention that most people will be meeting their logi pilots for the first time in a pickup fleet. Another risk.

Not true. Try running an incursion (anywhere, hi/lo/null) with no logi.

Yeah, picking up bad logi or joining a griefer fleet is a risk because you aren't careful and fly with people you trust. But it's a risk exactly the same way getting hit by a terrible driver the second you step out your front door is a risk. Drunk/bad/griefer logi/fc does not count. Try again.

The flaw in that argument is this is a MMO. i.e. you play with others.

Wow, just wow....

First of all, alt post, don't care.

I'll start with addressing the mom-killers: Way to go, you nailed three incursions in less then 24 hours. Not a bad run in and of itself. Something to be aware of, not all 'Incursionbears' are going to go back to other areas. Some of us were forcibly evicted from our nice little printing presses in W-Space. Matter of fact, Kill it with Fire was nearly responsible for causing me to leave game on a permanent basis with one of their tower raids in the recent past. 5 billion lost in 15 minutes can do that to someone.

On to the Incursion runners: Time to stand up and do something about this. How you do it, really doesn't matter much to me. I stand to make tons off the coming conflict. Please, just do something about the insults they have thrown your way.

Wow, just wow....

Matter of fact, Kill it with Fire was nearly responsible for causing me to leave game on a permanent basis with one of their tower raids in the recent past. 5 billion lost in 15 minutes can do that to someone.

Oh ****, I remember you! were you the one where we rocked up, blew up your capital fleet and then demanded you give us your rorqual to leave? Or were you one of the guys who gave me starbase config when i asked for it and wondered where all your stuff went?

Oh wait, theres been so many of you I dont, so no, you are not special...

You are however exceedingly mad

Are you one of the rorqual people?

http://goo.gl/vpylW

*cries while holding her golden award*

First I would like to thank these wonderful people from Kill it with fire, Bricks, Skunks and of course those hardworking people from C&P that showed up in our channel to fight alongside with us.
*wipes tear away*

This could not have been done without you *sops* and by all means this is definitely not the end of it. We shall continue our crusade and hammer some sense into CCP's game and the head of these mindless incursion runners.

If an incursion spawns today then feel free to join in with us on either

a. Taking it down.
b. Causing an immense amount of grief with suicide fleets.

To all those who had no faith in our ability. Well have you seen what we have accomplished so far? Threadnoughts everywhere, drama and tears everywhere and last but not least no incursion anywhere in highsec!

You truly amaze me... you sit whining about how sad your life is and you don't' make enough isk to enjoy eve... imagine what you could have done with the time you wasted doing this??? This is what I did, 1:30 mins incursions... just over 100mil. Ran some Ca's.. maybe 200mil.. did some null explorations and got an escalation.. got some friends and between 4 of us we got a Nightmare BPC., and some other bits.. so in 5 hrs made round 700mil.. all you did was carry on whining.. Oh and apparently you made me sad by stopping my isk faucet as you killed incursions.. What did your null "buddies" do while helping.. Oh they made millions too, their moongoo just keeps coming.. so once again.. you still loose out... shame..

While you were typing this I made over 9000 isk exploding belt rats in my titan.

Matter of fact, Kill it with Fire was nearly responsible for causing me to leave game on a permanent basis with one of their tower raids in the recent past. 5 billion lost in 15 minutes can do that to someone.

He didn't say faucet. He said ISK printing machine, it's a relative term.

Just curios why the Incursion runners don't do something to stop the popping of the mom.. hire some mercs to dec the corps involved in the running of the mom's, harass the wh of those corps involved..

ah, I am sorry to hear that we didn't live up to your expectation.

Could you please fill this customer satisfaction survey so we may better serve you next time ?

1. Why didn't you quit the game permanently ?

a. Our timing was bad, Please include your desired time slot for corp thefts

How about 27:30 hours, on Feb 39th 3037?

b. Our members were not courteous. Please include the name and insults of the offending members accompanied by chat logs if possible.

Not enough trash talk in corp, include more next time. Would have loved to have a verbal tit-for-tat next time.

c. The isk/hr was not enough. 5 billion in 15 minutes is below our average isk/hr on corp thefts, do you have any suggestions to increase the efficiency of our operations ?

How about trying for capital BPOs next time?

d. Tears overflowed the bucket and were wasted. Recently our corporation has added "T2 Buckets (tm)" as a pre-requisite for all applicants. You can contact our HR department for more information.

Tears? What tears? I remember irritation, and a sense of awe once past the irritation.


2. Will our new business frontier (incursions) influence your decision to quit the game ? If so please mention any specific action which may help this cause. If not, please include any other fields in which we may operate to help achieve that goal.

Removing me from this game would require you to permanently wardec my place of employment IRL... Good luck with that endeavor.

3. How is your isk/hr loss in this new field (incursions) compared to our previous business with you ? Please include any relevant suggestions on how to increase our efficiency.

As I have not suffered any loss of ISK/hr due to these actions. Please, keep up the funny hijinks.

PS : shamelessly got the idea from ADHC customer satisfaction survey.

Just curios why the Incursion runners don't do something to stop the popping of the mom.. hire some mercs to dec the corps involved in the running of the mom's, harass the wh of those corps involved..

you know i should be annoyed but then i think you know what screw it im tired of these damn elitists in HIGHSEC and are not bitter vet traders i just dont care any more the plex prices are too high the carebear politics are beyond stupid and the channel i did HQ fleets with is dead to me so i just dont care go for it make them cry i back this. Im tired hearing that this is a btl/tdf incursion says who sansha?

You truly amaze me... you sit whining about how sad your life is and you don't' make enough isk to enjoy eve... imagine what you could have done with the time you wasted doing this??? This is what I did, 1:30 mins incursions... just over 100mil. Ran some Ca's.. maybe 200mil.. did some null explorations and got an escalation.. got some friends and between 4 of us we got a Nightmare BPC., and some other bits.. so in 5 hrs made round 700mil.. all you did was carry on whining.. Oh and apparently you made me sad by stopping my isk faucet as you killed incursions.. What did your null "buddies" do while helping.. Oh they made millions too, their moongoo just keeps coming.. so once again.. you still loose out... shame..

This is rather interesting... The causes leader "an experienced incursion runner"
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1478787

This is rather interesting... The causes leader "an experienced incursion runner"
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1478787

Don't think that even dedicated carebears can see the light about how horrible the current isk faucet is? They can.

Plus, characters can be sold, might not be the same player behind the name any more.

if you all are so worried about the isk faucet.. what about moon goo, or the goons chasing up ice prices.. I'll tell you why.. none of you care about the isk or the players of eve, most of you probably joined the goons in their quest.. its the tears and other selfish reasons that this crusade has been led. If greifing is your thing.. then so be it.. but don't try hide it behind a cause for the good of others or the game.. If incursions were negatively impacting the game CCP would change it.. anyway.. i'll hop off my soap box now

Awesome work guys

We are catching a few bears trying to get to lowsec incursions lol.
OMNOMNOMNOM

I find it amusing however that a bunch of nullsec strategically "savvy" players are broadcasting their next move to the community. That'd be like North Korea informing whatever nation of their first nuclear strike. "Hey, we're going to attack you. Just so you know, later." Which brings that actual purpose of this thread into question. Ultimately, I think either their not going to do a damn thing, or their just hoping to scare people into killing the mothership themselves without any effort from the nullbears. Either way, it's a strategy that will likely not accomplish whatever it's intended.