See this? This is how much you don't get it.

The third option would have been that they're doing it because they can get more tears by telling incursion scrubs exactly what they're going to do and how they will do it, because they know scrubs are worthless and can't do anything to stop them.

but as for the market, it won't get any better, it's already been ruined for life.... take startrek online for instance (wow,eq2,etc.)
only way to fix that is to put a max cap on market/contract items for each individual item

as for mission runners It takes long drooling days and hrs even at lvl 4 mission's just to get enough isk for a basic crusier and setup and god for give a battle crusier or tech 2 frig

The market will repair itself over time (so long as this isk faucet stays reduced to a dribble). The eve economy is a lot more robust than any other mmo economy and you really should give CCP credit for that.

If you're running L4 missions and can't afford a t2 fit bc or T2 frig after 1 hour you're doing it wrong.

Lol, now weve broken all your ISK printing machines in highsec, were going to our wormhome to play with our own

That was an awful lot of typing you did there to basically say "blah blah grief blah blah my ~opinion~ blah blah STOP BEING NASTY TO EACH OTHER ON THE INTERNET IT HURTS MY FEELINGS ABLOO ABLOO"

Also your name is p. gay, just saying

This is very true - When someone gets beaten there are tears sometimes for sure, but when someone is told to their face how, when, and where then they really have a chance to discoverer just how little balls, intelligence and initiative they truly have.

THIS is when the real tears come from, the truly golden ones you keep printouts in your hope chest of to treasure forever.

depends on mission really, if u have the hull to carry everything that you killed and scape it before you leave you can make somewhere between 1mil to15 mil additional to the mission

but most peeps dont like to go to low/null sec till they have enough to replace their ships and fits a half-a-dozen times and dear load don't try to mission there Its only asking for them to kill you while being attack by PvE npc's

I do have one question for you guys... what is the goal behind all this? if you say tears I am going to presume your a r3tard.

Well this is exciting.

I don't do PVE.. and I never will... I suffered a few days of PVE so i can run locators. Worst week of my EVE life.

I do have one question for you guys... what is the goal behind all this? if you say tears I am going to presume your a r3tard.

I know incursions pay out way to much isk. There is no risk for the amount of reward people are getting, so what is your end goal? I know people have been saying alot of things, Hell I think just changing the warp gate to sites to allow for only certain type ships for the site will up the risk vs reward.

But I don't run incursion so I don't know.

You would treasure the act of making someone cry? Well at least you can admit how truely deplorable you are. Most evil people are delusional enough to also claim to not be so cruel. That's the point I was making earlier. I dont have a problem with griefers being griefers, I dont have an issue with people hunting each other or going to destroy others well laid plans. I just have a very low opinion of you as, and I use the term loosely, 'persons'. It takes a very insecure, unstable, and troubled individual to take joy in anothers tears. Dont mistake, I'm not crying, its your life to abuse as you please, not mine. I choose to be who I am, you choose to be who you are. I didnt start this arguement either, you guys did. I joined about halfway thru, and now your all attacking me for being different. Oh, and kudos to your success, always good to see plans come to fruition.

I never said I dont get it, I said I dont approve. But I guess that's not allowed by your communist outlook either. If I dont agree with you I'm just wrong? That's ok, I can live with that.

Are there already new fleets on his way to end the newly spawned incursions ? And how can I join with my alt to help take down the MS as fast as possible so that the routes through empire are safe again to travel without harrasment from Sansha Pirats ?

Well sir, feel free to join in our ingame channel "Grief the Bears".
Yes, today too we plan on taking down incursions \o/

While I have found no use for tears, (I was told they would keep a POS fueled and online, this is not true) I hope that your actions maybe get the incursion runners to get creative and respond with more than bans and moronic fist waving.

In 2 days my corporation will join with huge Thrasher fleets Kissada`s honorable effort to reduce the risk free ISK injection into the EVE economy.
May the tears flow in epic porportions....

I am not a game designer and thus that is not up to me to decide the exact amount, but when I earn the equivalent in a C5 with faction, t3 and capital ships running sites as I can running sites in highsec with no risk of being hotdropped by rooks and kings with 5 guardians, 3 bhaalgorns and a ton of t3's then why would I ever want to actually do sites in w-space?
I could just live there just for the PvP and excitement, not for the site and have alts bringing in the isk in highsec.
Yep sounds like a damn nice game change to me. Might as well remove all the sleepers from wormhole.

Oh while we talk about inflation. Did you notice that nanoribbons (they come from w-space) have gone up to over 8 million isk now? I am sure it's not because people aren't running sites anymore in w-space.

Not true. Try running an incursion (anywhere, hi/lo/null) with no logi. Almost no risk is soloing a level 4 with a local tank. Vanguard sites require 2-3 logi pilots. No logi means you have a 100% chance of losing your ships. There is plenty of risk there, and this is not to mention that most people will be meeting their logi pilots for the first time in a pickup fleet. Another risk.

I have seen grand displays of cognitive dissonance displayed by those who have nothing but hate in their heart for incursions and incursion runners.

Those who are currently griefing, etc... do not have the mental fortitude or dexterity to keep their efforts up. Generally if you hold up something else that is shiny, it will get their attention. This happened previously with lvl 4 missions, wh's, and ice....

if you all are so worried about the isk faucet.. what about moon goo, or the goons chasing up ice prices.. I'll tell you why.. none of you care about the isk or the players of eve, most of you probably joined the goons in their quest.. its the tears and other selfish reasons that this crusade has been led. If greifing is your thing.. then so be it.. but don't try hide it behind a cause for the good of others or the game.. If incursions were negatively impacting the game CCP would change it.. anyway.. i'll hop off my soap box now

Ahhh... the farcical stand of "For the Good of EVE" is just as thin and absurd as it has sounded all along... the griferbears are playing thier way, and lying about it, as usual.

I care not that they grief, just wish they had the ballz to stand up for what they really want and thier reasons for doing it... the desire to create Tears = nuthing but grief.

Well I'll stand up for it.

I just spent an hour and 50 minutes in fleet cackling madly as we ended all three highsec incursions and harvested an endless ocean of tears from incursion channels. I did this for no other reason than that it's ******* hilarious.