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Zhaine Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.07.28 10:14:00 - [121] Originally by: BustyBounty 1 - how much do you pay bob a month? 2 - are you allowed to run any complexes within the space you are renting? 3 - are you allowed to mine and rat in whatever system you like within the borders of the space you are renting? 4 - do bob require you to pay rent during war times when you are already losing ships to defend there space for them? 5 - do bob help you defend in times of need? genuine questions im just curious 1 - Nothing. 2 - With static complexes going/gone, of course 3 - Yup, in any of the space in our constellations, which isn't "rented" as we don't pay "rent". 4 - As we don't pay anything anyway, no. 5 - Not really, they're kinda busy. We wouldn't want they're supercaps stealing all our fights tbh! Hope that answers your questions! - - - - - - - - - -
Mihailo Great GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.28 10:29:00 - [122] Originally by: musgrattio This is my understanding of our relationship with BoB. It is somewhat inherently inaccurate, as I didn't make the actual deal, and it was never posted in its entirety to my understanding. That said, basically FIX gets control of FIX space, but in BoB's name. We own 4 stations in Q, and BoB owns 1. Other than that, they have next to 0 poses in Q, while we basically have some in every system. So the Sov thing is not an issue. BOB have sovereignty of 8 systems in Querious. Sucks that a Goon grunt knows more about your sov status than yourself eh?
fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.28 10:32:00 - [123] Originally by: Mihailo Great Originally by: musgrattio This is my understanding of our relationship with BoB. It is somewhat inherently inaccurate, as I didn't make the actual deal, and it was never posted in its entirety to my understanding. That said, basically FIX gets control of FIX space, but in BoB's name. We own 4 stations in Q, and BoB owns 1. Other than that, they have next to 0 poses in Q, while we basically have some in every system. So the Sov thing is not an issue. BOB have sovereignty of 8 systems in Querious. Sucks that a Goon grunt knows more about your sov status than yourself eh? A matter of perspective i think young man. 8 poses isn't alot to most folk y'know GOONIES = OMNIPOTENCE INCARNATE
Mihailo Great GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.28 10:44:00 - [124] Originally by: fire 59 A matter of perspective i think young man. 8 poses isn't alot to most folk y'know Whenever we see you in local, we laugh hard on our TS. It's because you're mostly clueless of anything. Sov in 8 systems does not equal only 1 large pos per sov claiming system, nor does it mean there aren't more POS not claiming sov in the other systems, especially station systems. You really think BOB trusts FIX enough not to hold them by the leash?
fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.28 10:53:00 - [125] Originally by: Mihailo Great Originally by: fire 59 A matter of perspective i think young man. 8 poses isn't alot to most folk y'know Whenever we see you in local, we laugh hard on our TS. It's because you're mostly clueless of anything. Sov in 8 systems does not equal only 1 large pos per sov claiming system, nor does it mean there aren't more POS not claiming sov in the other systems, especially station systems. You really think BOB trusts FIX enough not to hold them by the leash? Aaww that's so cute, you actually look for me in local . ( emote blows kiss) . You being a goonie talking about leashes is the ultimate irony. The pet of pets, talking about someone else being a pet GOONIES = OMNIPOTENCE INCARNATE
General Apocalypse Amarr The Merchant Marines	Posted - 2007.07.28 10:56:00 - [126] The goons and TCF are Red Alliance pets so you fail to deliver goon = A fool, or someone considered silly
Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.07.28 11:01:00 - [127] Originally by: General Apocalypse The goons and TCF are Red Alliance pets so you fail to deliver Please explain -=-=-
Proxay Gallente Fallen Angel's Blade.	Posted - 2007.07.28 11:12:00 - [128] Originally by: Mihailo Great Whenever we see you in local, we laugh hard on our TS. It's because you're mostly clueless of anything. Forgive me for nit-picking, but shouldn't you be calling primaries/secondaries or maybe yet, even better, discussing strategies, not making a lot of stupid, random, unnecessary noise? Fallen Angel's Recruitment
Zeoliter Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.28 11:13:00 - [129] 2-6-0 2 2 6 6 0 0 2-6-0
Mihailo Great GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.28 11:13:00 - [130] Originally by: Proxay Forgive me for nit-picking, but shouldn't you be calling primaries/secondaries or maybe yet, even better, discussing strategies, not making a lot of stupid, random, unnecessary noise? No, that's the dumbest thing I'v ever heard.
Zhaine Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.07.28 12:05:00 - [131] Originally by: Zeoliter 2-6-0 2 2 6 6 0 0 2-6-0 Say wha? - - - - - - - - - -
Murina Gallente The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.28 12:45:00 - [132] Originally by: Starfall Hammer Originally by: Murina So by your measure because we were the ones getting paid does that make bob our pets?. No, I am pretty sure everyone still views you as the pets. Cool at a rate of 2 outposts every time we kick sombodys ass out of 0.0 collar me and call me bowser. Perhaps after you pay goon your $10 to join them and post with your corp/alliance showing you should re-evaluate how you define fets lol. how you define pets
slip66 Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.28 13:06:00 - [133] Edited by: slip66 on 28/07/2007 13:08:20 Originally by: Death Priest Edited by: Death Priest on 27/07/2007 01:38:04 Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate Originally by: Felxia Is this true. Well from a security point of view I understand but I guess it's what you pay for paying rent in bobs space. Yep. To be part of BOBs fantastic coalition, you not only have to pay a high rent for horrible pieces of space, they also decide who gets into your alliance and who doesn't. If this is True then SOMEONE has a Titanic Ego and E-Peen that must be constantly "Petted" Anyone or any Alliance that allows this much control of a rented space might as well quit the game. No Flames intended but this sounds rediculous TBH It sounds ridiculous because thats what you want to hear :) Would you allow space full of isk farmers ? Nor would it make sense to let in a corp that was known to associate with hostile alliances. Open them eyes up Herbs, not everything is exactly what you hear... ;) I'm sure this is true for each side of this fight aswell. Originally by: StOrM ViPeR Theres a skill called surgical strike in game I've learned that it actually stands for Band of Brothers
Proxay Gallente Fallen Angel's Blade.	Posted - 2007.07.28 13:38:00 - [134] Originally by: Zhaine Originally by: Zeoliter 2-6-0 2 2 6 6 0 0 2-6-0 Say wha? Doomsday kills by shrike yesterday. Fallen Angel's Recruitment
Dagam GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.28 13:57:00 - [135] Edited by: Dagam on 28/07/2007 14:04:46 Originally by: Murina Cool at a rate of 2 outposts every time we kick sombodys ass out of 0.0 collar me and call me bowser. Perhaps after you pay goon your $10 to join them and post with your corp/alliance showing you should re-evaluate how you define fets lol. how you define pets Well 10 bux is to Lowtax, it lets you post on his forums and is one of the requirements for joining Goonfleet. But there's alot more to SA membership than joining Goonfleet and more to the Goonswarm alliance than Goonfleet so vOv. What does it mean to be a BoB pet? Forget rent, building an outpost for them, not disagreeing with them on the forums, or fighting for them. It means they take credit for your accomplishments when you're doing well and when you have no more use to them/doing badly you're blamed and made their scapegoat. They're using you to make themselves, their precious killboards and e-reps, look better. You might think you won't end up like Xelas or The Horde, but besides these former pets they turned on how many tenants from before the ASCN/BOB war do you see around?
Murina Gallente The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.28 14:25:00 - [136] Originally by: Dagam Edited by: Dagam on 28/07/2007 13:59:36 Originally by: Murina Cool at a rate of 2 outposts every time we kick sombodys ass out of 0.0 collar me and call me bowser. Perhaps after you pay goon your $10 to join them and post with your corp/alliance showing you should re-evaluate how you define fets lol. how you define pets Well 10 bux is to Lowtax, it lets you post on his forums and is one of the requirements for joining Goonfleet. But there's alot more to SA membership than joining Goonfleet and more to the Goonswarm alliance than Goonfleet so vOv. What does it mean to be a BoB pet? Forget rent, building an outpost for them, not disagreeing with them on the forums, or fighting for them. It means they take credit for your accomplishments when you're doing well and when you have no more use to them/doing badly you're blamed and made their scapegoat. They're using you to make themselves, their killboards and e-reps, look better. You might think you won't end up like Xelas or The Horde, but besides these former pets they turned on how many tenants since the ASCN/BOB war do you see around? It seems to me that most goons say at first that we have no acomplishments when talking about battles fought then when its convieniant that BOB are stealing these non existant acomplishments. So witch is it? or as myself and others have noticed you tend to pitch whatever is siutable depending on what ever the goon alt has started the thread about and ignore the totaly contradictory statments you make?. I will never join BOB or be part of a corp/alliance who pays anybody to live in 0.0 space. But fine you say i do not know the complexities of the RA/goon membership and your right i do not but niether do you know about the details of how alliances like mine operate. We get paid for any service we do for BOB or any other alliance. We pay, build or fight for nobody who does not pay us for it so by the goon measurement of how a pet is defined we are not even close. And its not like RA/goon does not have their own allies (or pets if you prefer) but i suppose you call each other friends or buddys or other non offensive names hey?. The whole PET issue is ra/goon and allies attempt to stop ppl from joining or allying with BOB because you use blob tactics and cannot win any other way so the more ppl who join BOB or ally with them the less advantage in numbers you have its that simple.
KIATolon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.28 14:34:00 - [137] Originally by: Murina Cool at a rate of 2 outposts every time we kick sombodys ass out of 0.0 collar me and call me bowser. Perhaps after you pay goon your $10 to join them and post with your corp/alliance showing you should re-evaluate how you define fets lol. how you define pets I am going to destroy your alliance. You heard it here first.
Murina Gallente The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.28 14:46:00 - [138] Originally by: KIATolon Originally by: Murina Cool at a rate of 2 outposts every time we kick sombodys ass out of 0.0 collar me and call me bowser. Perhaps after you pay goon your $10 to join them and post with your corp/alliance showing you should re-evaluate how you define fets lol. how you define pets I am going to destroy your alliance. You heard it here first. But we were having so much fun with ppl we actualy respect like razor and buddies we realy do not wanna see the neighbourhood go down hill with the likes of you and your low lifes coming up to branch.
KIATolon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.28 14:47:00 - [139] Originally by: Murina Originally by: KIATolon Originally by: Murina Cool at a rate of 2 outposts every time we kick sombodys ass out of 0.0 collar me and call me bowser. Perhaps after you pay goon your $10 to join them and post with your corp/alliance showing you should re-evaluate how you define fets lol. how you define pets I am going to destroy your alliance. You heard it here first. But we were having so much fun with ppl we actualy respect like razor and buddies we realy do not wanna see the neighbourhood go down hill with the likes of you and your low lifes coming up to branch. Well say goodbye to your fun. I'm going to crush your poxy alliance when I'm done running omnipotence itself back to their home systems.
Murina Gallente The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.28 14:52:00 - [140] Originally by: KIATolon Well say goodbye to your fun. I'm going to crush your poxy alliance when I'm done running omnipotence itself back to their home systems. Whew and i though it would actualy happen this side of never lol.
KIATolon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.28 14:53:00 - [141] Originally by: Murina Originally by: KIATolon Well say goodbye to your fun. I'm going to crush your poxy alliance when I'm done running omnipotence itself back to their home systems. Whew and i though it would actualy happen this side of never lol. 0 "lol"
dastommy79 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.28 15:27:00 - [142] Originally by: Pociomundo Originally by: Savesti Kyrsst Originally by: Pociomundo Originally by: BuIIseye A pet in need is a pet indeed a pet with weed is better A pet with ******* and all the rest a pet who's dressed in leather a pet who'll tease is better No love for the man sigs :( Bummer. -Garthagk
Emrod Legion Du Lys GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.28 15:58:00 - [143] Pets or not, the only thing matter is destroy all Bob and friend until they finish their eve-life in Empire or they quit the game forever. Who are the pets or not? Tbh I dont ******* care. The universal law in Eve anyways is if you are red or neutral in the overview... YOU MUST DIE! end of topic. I sell some logoff t2 module,improved forum flamming tachyon beam and Bob Lag generator faction item, contact me ingame for more info :P
Emrod Legion Du Lys GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.28 16:06:00 - [144] Originally by: General Apocalypse The goons and TCF are Red Alliance pets so you fail to deliver Who are you? I sell some logoff t2 module,improved forum flamming tachyon beam and Bob Lag generator faction item, contact me ingame for more info :P
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.07.28 16:41:00 - [145] So, hypothetically, if someone has a policy (like, we vet all your members) and people accept it, does that mean they are a) Getting sufficient value from the deal that this is acceptable b) being fools for suffering an 'unfair' condition. shrug There's enough fools in EVE I suppose, but I can't help but feel that vetting member corps is a pretty good idea. 'specially when you have intel that the other guy may not.
Alias11 GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.28 16:46:00 - [146] Originally by: Murina Originally by: KIATolon Well say goodbye to your fun. I'm going to crush your poxy alliance when I'm done running omnipotence itself back to their home systems. Whew and i though it would actualy happen this side of never lol. We've killed better than you before and we'll kill better than you again
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.28 17:01:00 - [147] Originally by: Alias11 Originally by: Murina Originally by: KIATolon Well say goodbye to your fun. I'm going to crush your poxy alliance when I'm done running omnipotence itself back to their home systems. Whew and i though it would actualy happen this side of never lol. We've killed better than you before and we'll kill better than you again Erm actualy you hav'nt realy killed anybody others did it for you and you claimed the forum boasting rights for at best making up the numbers.
KIATolon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.28 17:07:00 - [148] Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Originally by: Alias11 Originally by: Murina Originally by: KIATolon Well say goodbye to your fun. I'm going to crush your poxy alliance when I'm done running omnipotence itself back to their home systems. Whew and i though it would actualy happen this side of never lol. We've killed better than you before and we'll kill better than you again Erm actualy you hav'nt realy killed anybody others did it for you and you claimed the forum boasting rights for at best making up the numbers. I hope 12xspeed and gunny are impressed with the trouble you're getting your alliance in right now. A lack of knowledge is never a good starting point. A lack of knowledge whilst smacking the most powerful corp in eve because you think they're still tech1noobslol is really going to land you in hot water. When I'm done with what I'm doing (as I said before) I'm going to be looking for targets, and you guys have done a good job of ensuring you're it.
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.28 17:20:00 - [149] Originally by: KIATolon Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Originally by: Alias11 Originally by: Murina Originally by: KIATolon Well say goodbye to your fun. I'm going to crush your poxy alliance when I'm done running omnipotence itself back to their home systems. Whew and i though it would actualy happen this side of never lol. We've killed better than you before and we'll kill better than you again Erm actualy you hav'nt realy killed anybody others did it for you and you claimed the forum boasting rights for at best making up the numbers. I hope 12xspeed and gunny are impressed with the trouble you're getting your alliance in right now. A lack of knowledge is never a good starting point. A lack of knowledge whilst smacking the most powerful corp in eve because you think they're still tech1noobslol is really going to land you in hot water. When I'm done with what I'm doing (as I said before) I'm going to be looking for targets, and you guys have done a good job of ensuring you're it. And for sombody who makes derogatory remarks about a lack of knowledge you should realy check who is leading FATAL before making claims about gunny or 12. And by all means bring it were a pvp alliance so the more fighting the better although i realy feel a distaste at having to fight lag swarm after so many enjoyable fights against razor and their buddies.
Alias11 GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.28 17:26:00 - [150] Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Originally by: Alias11 Originally by: Murina Originally by: KIATolon Well say goodbye to your fun. I'm going to crush your poxy alliance when I'm done running omnipotence itself back to their home systems. Whew and i though it would actualy happen this side of never lol. We've killed better than you before and we'll kill better than you again Erm actualy you hav'nt realy killed anybody others did it for you and you claimed the forum boasting rights for at best making up the numbers. I don't think we needed any help killing GONAD

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