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Stoffer Ninjapirate
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.26 22:28:00 -
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If your alliance isn't allowed to decide which corps join your alliance, and Dianabolic does it for you, you are a pet.
I'd like to hear from some of the members of GBC (Greater BOB Community) what they think about this policy, because apparently it applies to them.
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mama guru
Gallente Corp 1 Allstars Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.26 22:30:00 -
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Edited by: mama guru on 26/07/2007 22:30:01 First
Edit: also, i agree. -YOU ARE NOW READING MY SIGNATURE-
EVE is like the "Fisherman's Friend" of MMOs. If it's too hard, you are too weak. |

Felxia
CrossFire Collective
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Posted - 2007.07.26 22:30:00 -
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Is this true. Well from a security point of view I understand but I guess it's what you pay for paying rent in bobs space.
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Stoffer Ninjapirate
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.26 22:50:00 -
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Originally by: Felxia Is this true. Well from a security point of view I understand but I guess it's what you pay for paying rent in bobs space.
Yep.
To be part of BOBs fantastic coalition, you not only have to pay a high rent for horrible pieces of space, they also decide who gets into your alliance and who doesn't.
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Achaiah
Black Bag Ops
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Posted - 2007.07.26 22:52:00 -
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Also, if your alliance accepts that Joshua Foiritain mark your alliance's space as BoB space in that map of his, you are a pet.
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PirateShampoo
Minmatar UK Corp FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.26 22:53:00 -
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Edited by: PirateShampoo on 26/07/2007 22:54:41 Can't say I know of any alliance in which BoB has any say whatsoever in which corporations are members. You have some proof?
If this is your definition of a BoB pet there are NO bob pets in existence unless of course you can categorically prove otherwise?
No? I did not think so. 
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BuIIseye
Amarr Pax Amarria Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.26 22:54:00 -
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A pet in need is a pet indeed
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Because of the name I have a higher chance of a wrecking shot, please don't tell the GM's or they'll nerf me =/ |

Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.07.26 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: Achaiah Also, if your alliance accepts that Joshua Foiritain mark your alliance's space as BoB space in that map of his, you are a pet.
Joshua has a pillow with molle printed on it.
- Gob
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Torshin
Prophets Of a Damned Universe
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Posted - 2007.07.26 22:57:00 -
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It applies to newer members to the GBC as your relationship grows with BOB so do your rights -------------------------------------------
Backdoor Bandit - Unofficial leader of the new 'Post with your main or STFU' campaign. I'm Shinra and I'm the champion of Eve. |

Stoffer Ninjapirate
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.26 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: PirateShampoo Edited by: PirateShampoo on 26/07/2007 22:55:09 Can't say I know of any alliance in which BoB has any say whatsoever in which corporations are members. You have some proof?
If this is your definition of a BoB pet then there are NO bob pets in existence unless of course you can categorically prove otherwise?
No? I did not think so. 
It's the standard message corps get when they try to join a lot of the GBC alliances. Start a corp, try it out. You'll be told to speak to Dian, it's hilarious.
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Stoffer Ninjapirate
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.26 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: PirateShampoo Edited by: PirateShampoo on 26/07/2007 22:55:09 Can't say I know of any alliance in which BoB has any say whatsoever in which corporations are members. You have some proof?
If this is your definition of a BoB pet then there are NO bob pets in existence unless of course you can categorically prove otherwise?
No? I did not think so. 
Oh whoops buddy, see post 9.
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PirateShampoo
Minmatar UK Corp FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.26 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate
Originally by: PirateShampoo Edited by: PirateShampoo on 26/07/2007 22:55:09 Can't say I know of any alliance in which BoB has any say whatsoever in which corporations are members. You have some proof?
If this is your definition of a BoB pet then there are NO bob pets in existence unless of course you can categorically prove otherwise?
No? I did not think so. 
It's the standard message corps get when they try to join a lot of the GBC alliances. Start a corp, try it out. You'll be told to speak to Dian, it's hilarious.
Just saying it does not make it so... if only... where is your proof for this accusation.
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.26 23:00:00 -
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Kinda like your ftz huh 
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PirateShampoo
Minmatar UK Corp FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.26 23:01:00 -
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Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate
Originally by: PirateShampoo Edited by: PirateShampoo on 26/07/2007 22:55:09 Can't say I know of any alliance in which BoB has any say whatsoever in which corporations are members. You have some proof?
If this is your definition of a BoB pet then there are NO bob pets in existence unless of course you can categorically prove otherwise?
No? I did not think so. 
Oh whoops buddy, see post 9.
Oh, Torshin is an expert in BoB and GBC is he? Nice for him. Again just saying does not constitute proof.
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dastommy79
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.26 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Torshin It applies to newer members to the GBC as your relationship grows with BOB so do your rights
That sounds awesome!!!!! Sign me up 
Oh wait bob can **** my ******* *** and **** ** ****. Further more, *** ****** **** *****S. 
No love for the man sigs :( Bummer. -Garthagk |

Stoffer Ninjapirate
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.26 23:07:00 -
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Originally by: fire 59 Edited by: fire 59 on 26/07/2007 23:06:48 Kinda like your ftz huh 
Edit - and the irony of the goonies talking about pets after there failed ftz which charged the residents and told them what they could do and fact they are the biggest pet ingame is laughable.
Throwing stones in glass houses eh 
You're pretty stupid when it comes to how things work.
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.26 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate
Originally by: fire 59 Edited by: fire 59 on 26/07/2007 23:06:48 Kinda like your ftz huh 
Edit - and the irony of the goonies talking about pets after there failed ftz which charged the residents and told them what they could do and fact they are the biggest pet ingame is laughable.
Throwing stones in glass houses eh 
You're pretty stupid when it comes to how things work.
You're pretty stupid in regards to everything
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dastommy79
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.26 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: fire 59
Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate
Originally by: fire 59 Edited by: fire 59 on 26/07/2007 23:06:48 Kinda like your ftz huh 
Edit - and the irony of the goonies talking about pets after there failed ftz which charged the residents and told them what they could do and fact they are the biggest pet ingame is laughable.
Throwing stones in glass houses eh 
You're pretty stupid when it comes to how things work.
You're pretty stupid in regards to everything
That is the greatest burn of all time, goons just lost the war 
No love for the man sigs :( Bummer. -Garthagk |

Stoffer Ninjapirate
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.26 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: fire 59
Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate
Originally by: fire 59 Edited by: fire 59 on 26/07/2007 23:06:48 Kinda like your ftz huh 
Edit - and the irony of the goonies talking about pets after there failed ftz which charged the residents and told them what they could do and fact they are the biggest pet ingame is laughable.
Throwing stones in glass houses eh 
You're pretty stupid when it comes to how things work.
You're pretty stupid in regards to everything
But on a serious note, which alliances are on the list where they can't chose stuff like capplicant corps by themselves?
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.26 23:16:00 -
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Originally by: dastommy79
Originally by: fire 59
Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate
Originally by: fire 59 Edited by: fire 59 on 26/07/2007 23:06:48 Kinda like your ftz huh 
Edit - and the irony of the goonies talking about pets after there failed ftz which charged the residents and told them what they could do and fact they are the biggest pet ingame is laughable.
Throwing stones in glass houses eh 
You're pretty stupid when it comes to how things work.
You're pretty stupid in regards to everything
That is the greatest burn of all time, goons just lost the war 
Do you mind, me and the goonie are having a heart to heart
GOONIES = OMNIPOTENCE INCARNATE |
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Righteous Fury
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.07.26 23:19:00 -
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hay guys, I'm trying to recruit some more corps to help me pay rent, any suggestions?
oops, wait, don't pay rent. free veldspar \o/
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dastommy79
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.26 23:22:00 -
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Ok, i'll sit this one out but it better get good 
No love for the man sigs :( Bummer. -Garthagk |

fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.26 23:22:00 -
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Edited by: fire 59 on 26/07/2007 23:23:22 The definition of pet conversation always comes up when the enemy (you ot atm ) try to demonise your opposition ( bob and allies ). You say what you think it is and it is your opinion, just becasue you make a thread and your comrades agree doesn't make it fact
I personally think all this pet malarky is silly. And where does it stop btw. You lot say fix, axe, blablabla are pets, we say iac, goonies, iron etc were pets. You jump up and down and change the goalposts so it makes us sound bad while not quite classifying you but makes us fit YOUR idea of what it is
Edit - Emote takes 2 anti forum ***** tablets and goes to bed 
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Maraude Fury
Minmatar Shadow Of The Light R i s e
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Posted - 2007.07.26 23:27:00 -
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All I'll say is this.
None of our corps have ever been "Denied".
So it's had no effect.
No effect, no need to whine.
Besides. The Corps BOB wouldn't want joining an allied alliance, are the ones we as alliance members, wouldn't want joining anyways.
So if Our alliance's Recruiting Rules, coincide with BOB recruiting standards, how is this effecting us any differently then our existing Alliance Recruiting Rules?
Maraude Fury CEO: Shadow Of The Light .SOL.
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Vasili Z
Beasts of Burden YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.07.26 23:29:00 -
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Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Originally by: Achaiah Also, if your alliance accepts that Joshua Foiritain mark your alliance's space as BoB space in that map of his, you are a pet.
Joshua has a pillow with molle printed on it.
- Gob
I was wondering where that went. ----
Everything I say represents my corporation and their views.
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Stoffer Ninjapirate
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.26 23:35:00 -
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Originally by: fire 59 Edited by: fire 59 on 26/07/2007 23:23:22 The definition of pet conversation always comes up when the enemy (you ot atm ) try to demonise your opposition ( bob and allies ). You say what you think it is and it is your opinion, just becasue you make a thread and your comrades agree doesn't make it fact
I personally think all this pet malarky is silly. And where does it stop btw. You lot say fix, axe, blablabla are pets, we say iac, goonies, iron etc were pets. You jump up and down and change the goalposts so it makes us sound bad while not quite classifying you but makes us fit YOUR idea of what it is
Edit - Emote takes 2 anti forum ***** tablets and goes to bed 
Again, which alliances in GBC does Dian decide who joins and who doesn't?
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Jin Steele
Port Royal Independent Kontractors Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.07.26 23:46:00 -
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we were pets?
i lol at you sir.
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Heilios
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.07.26 23:48:00 -
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Originally by: fire 59 Edited by: fire 59 on 26/07/2007 23:23:22 The definition of pet conversation always comes up when the enemy (you ot atm ) try to demonise your opposition ( bob and allies ). You say what you think it is and it is your opinion, just becasue you make a thread and your comrades agree doesn't make it fact
I personally think all this pet malarky is silly. And where does it stop btw. You lot say fix, axe, blablabla are pets, we say iac, goonies, iron etc were pets. You jump up and down and change the goalposts so it makes us sound bad while not quite classifying you but makes us fit YOUR idea of what it is
Edit - Emote takes 2 anti forum ***** tablets and goes to bed 
that looks to me like hes starting to crumble... 
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Heilios
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.07.26 23:54:00 -
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Originally by: Maraude Fury All I'll say is this.
None of our corps have ever been "Denied".
So it's had no effect.
No effect, no need to whine.
Besides. The Corps BOB wouldn't want joining an allied alliance, are the ones we as alliance members, wouldn't want joining anyways.
So if Our alliance's Recruiting Rules, coincide with BOB recruiting standards, how is this effecting us any differently then our existing Alliance Recruiting Rules?
does your willingness to pay for your space and bobs willingness to take for it, coinciding together, really mean you are not a pet?
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Scatim Helicon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.26 23:59:00 -
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Edited by: Scatim Helicon on 26/07/2007 23:59:14
Originally by: fire 59 Edited by: fire 59 on 26/07/2007 23:06:48 Kinda like your ftz huh
Quite the opposite. The biggest failing (from this grunt's perspective) that we had with the FTZ was that we threw it open to whoever wanted in and didn't vet applicants properly for what we needed, and so rather than the influx of miners and producers we were hoping to get we ended up with 90%+ ratters, which aren't all that great in a scheme primarily aimed at building up local markets.
Sorry about the lack of flaming in this post, I'll try harder next time.
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Aeleva
Caldari Hegemonic Core
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Posted - 2007.07.27 00:16:00 -
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Originally by: Scatim Helicon Edited by: Scatim Helicon on 26/07/2007 23:59:14
Originally by: fire 59 Edited by: fire 59 on 26/07/2007 23:06:48 Kinda like your ftz huh
Quite the opposite. The biggest failing (from this grunt's perspective) that we had with the FTZ was that we threw it open to whoever wanted in and didn't vet applicants properly for what we needed, and so rather than the influx of miners and producers we were hoping to get we ended up with 90%+ ratters, which aren't all that great in a scheme primarily aimed at building up local markets.
Sorry about the lack of flaming in this post, I'll try harder next time.
Its hard to mine when there is no security and you are likely to get ganked before long.
Of note with regards to GBC - The very good reason bob will vet applicants is that they dont want crappy isk farmy corps joining up, or leechers. If you want to join you need to be able to pull your weight and help out, not just leech off your fellow alliance members and make them look bad.
TBH i think its the most sensible policy.
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Gaunty
Macabre Votum INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.07.27 01:01:00 -
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Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Originally by: Achaiah Also, if your alliance accepts that Joshua Foiritain mark your alliance's space as BoB space in that map of his, you are a pet.
Joshua has a pillow with molle printed on it.
- Gob
Bwahahaha 
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Yggdrassill Yeltsin
The Greater Goon
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Posted - 2007.07.27 01:14:00 -
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Edited by: Yggdrassill Yeltsin on 27/07/2007 01:18:01
Originally by: Aeleva
Originally by: Scatim Helicon Edited by: Scatim Helicon on 26/07/2007 23:59:14
Originally by: fire 59 Edited by: fire 59 on 26/07/2007 23:06:48 Kinda like your ftz huh
Quite the opposite. The biggest failing (from this grunt's perspective) that we had with the FTZ was that we threw it open to whoever wanted in and didn't vet applicants properly for what we needed, and so rather than the influx of miners and producers we were hoping to get we ended up with 90%+ ratters, which aren't all that great in a scheme primarily aimed at building up local markets.
Sorry about the lack of flaming in this post, I'll try harder next time.
Its hard to mine when there is no security and you are likely to get ganked before long.
Of note with regards to GBC - The very good reason bob will vet applicants is that they dont want crappy isk farmy corps joining up, or leechers. If you want to join you need to be able to pull your weight and help out, not just leech off your fellow alliance members and make them look bad.
TBH i think its the most sensible policy.
I don't think anyone is arguing that this isn't a reasonable step for BoB (from a harsh Machiavellian standpoint, anyway). The point is that any sovereign alliance that allows itself to be dictated to by BoB should probably reconsider any rationale they make to themselves and others that they are in fact sovereign and independent.
If you are ruled by another, that other rules you. Simple. Not that there's anything wrong with that, if that's what you're into.
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Obron Mettlo
Minmatar Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.27 01:25:00 -
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S******dly tried to be BoB pets but Dian told us no  -----------------
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Orangir
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.27 01:27:00 -
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Originally by: PirateShampoo Just saying it does not make it so... if only... where is your proof for this accusation.
At one point, Goonswarm had an entire alliance lined up to become a BoB pet, which then fell through after the war broke out early. The average Goon knows much more about how BoB handles their pets than the pets do themselves, mostly because the leaders of your alliance will try to hide the fact that BoB controls pretty much every aspect of it.
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.27 01:29:00 -
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Originally by: Scatim Helicon
Originally by: fire 59 Kinda like your ftz huh
Quite the opposite. The biggest failing (from this grunt's perspective) that we had with the FTZ was that we threw it open to whoever wanted in and didn't vet applicants properly for what we needed, and so rather than the influx of miners and producers we were hoping to get we ended up with 90%+ ratters, which aren't all that great in a scheme primarily aimed at building up local markets.
Sorry about the lack of flaming in this post, I'll try harder next time.
It isn't hard to agree with the enemy when sense prevails.
Nailed, Scatim.
Smack can come in local! Reikoku Diplomatic Forums |

Yggdrassill Yeltsin
The Greater Goon
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Posted - 2007.07.27 01:30:00 -
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Originally by: PirateShampoo Just saying it does not make it so... if only... where is your proof for this accusation.
This point isn't really up for debate now that several of said pets have admitted it in the thread. Can we move on?
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.27 01:32:00 -
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Originally by: Yggdrassill Yeltsin Edited by: Yggdrassill Yeltsin on 27/07/2007 01:18:01
Originally by: Aeleva
Originally by: Scatim Helicon Edited by: Scatim Helicon on 26/07/2007 23:59:14
Originally by: fire 59 Edited by: fire 59 on 26/07/2007 23:06:48 Kinda like your ftz huh
Quite the opposite. The biggest failing (from this grunt's perspective) that we had with the FTZ was that we threw it open to whoever wanted in and didn't vet applicants properly for what we needed, and so rather than the influx of miners and producers we were hoping to get we ended up with 90%+ ratters, which aren't all that great in a scheme primarily aimed at building up local markets.
Sorry about the lack of flaming in this post, I'll try harder next time.
Its hard to mine when there is no security and you are likely to get ganked before long.
Of note with regards to GBC - The very good reason bob will vet applicants is that they dont want crappy isk farmy corps joining up, or leechers. If you want to join you need to be able to pull your weight and help out, not just leech off your fellow alliance members and make them look bad.
TBH i think its the most sensible policy.
I don't think anyone is arguing that this isn't a reasonable step for BoB (from a harsh Machiavellian standpoint, anyway). The point is that any sovereign alliance that allows itself to be dictated to by BoB should probably reconsider any rationale they make to themselves and others that they are in fact sovereign and independent.
If you are ruled by another, that other rules you. Simple. Not that there's anything wrong with that, if that's what you're into.
Everyone does it.
Or, rather, everyone with half a brain - any space holding entity that allows a guest groupt to join without any checks and balances on their membership will also do so to any other group in that community. Security for one, means security for all - those that don't realise that won't fit in so it really is no loss if people prefer to be "sovereign" in someone elses space (oxymorons are great, aren't they?)
In criticising groups that accept our rule on this, you also criticise your own. If that is your intention, more power to you, it does however (imo) show a distinct lack of understanding of the tenant / landlord relationship of 0.0 space. Reikoku Diplomatic Forums |

BustyBounty
Caldari Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.27 01:33:00 -
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Quote: The very good reason bob will vet applicants is that they dont want crappy isk farmy corps joining up, or leechers. If you want to join you need to be able to pull your weight and help out, not just leech off your fellow alliance members and make them look bad.
how much do you pay bob a month?
are you allowed to run any complexes within the space you are renting?
are you allowed to mine and rat in whatever system you like within the borders of the space you are renting?
do bob require you to pay rent during war times when you are already losing ships to defend there space for them?
do bob help you defend in times of need?
genuine questions im just curious ------------------------------------------ My opinions are my own and not that of the alliance I belong to. |

Death Priest
Stronghold corp Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.27 01:38:00 -
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Edited by: Death Priest on 27/07/2007 01:38:04
Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate
Originally by: Felxia Is this true. Well from a security point of view I understand but I guess it's what you pay for paying rent in bobs space.
Yep.
To be part of BOBs fantastic coalition, you not only have to pay a high rent for horrible pieces of space, they also decide who gets into your alliance and who doesn't.
If this is True then SOMEONE has a Titanic Ego and E-Peen that must be constantly "Petted" Anyone or any Alliance that allows this much control of a rented space might as well quit the game. No Flames intended but this sounds rediculous TBH 
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.27 01:45:00 -
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Originally by: BustyBounty how much do you pay bob a month?
are you allowed to run any complexes within the space you are renting?
are you allowed to mine and rat in whatever system you like within the borders of the space you are renting?
do bob require you to pay rent during war times when you are already losing ships to defend there space for them?
do bob help you defend in times of need?
genuine questions im just curious
Costs vary.
Yes.
Yes, on some levels you get exclusive access to the belts.
No, we discount or, depending on how involved people are, completely waive the fee.
We try.
Feel free to eve-mail any further questions, I've taken them as genuine but I fear the forums will turn them otherwise.
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Proxay
Gallente Fallen Angel's Blade.
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Posted - 2007.07.27 01:46:00 -
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Originally by: Death Priest Edited by: Death Priest on 27/07/2007 01:38:04
Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate
Originally by: Felxia Is this true. Well from a security point of view I understand but I guess it's what you pay for paying rent in bobs space.
Yep.
To be part of BOBs fantastic coalition, you not only have to pay a high rent for horrible pieces of space, they also decide who gets into your alliance and who doesn't.
If this is True then SOMEONE has a Titanic Ego and E-Peen that must be constantly "Petted" Anyone or any Alliance that allows this much control of a rented space might as well quit the game. No Flames intended but this sounds rediculous TBH 
There's a hundred ways to spin this.
Landlord > Hi, that roommate you want, was previously a tenant and he ****ed up my rooms Tenant > Oh, really? Landlord > Yeah I'd really appreciate it if you didn't bring him back, it's not worth it to have him around. Tenant > Oh I see, fair enough.
Summary's ftw.
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Yggdrassill Yeltsin
The Greater Goon
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Posted - 2007.07.27 02:00:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Proxay
Originally by: Death Priest Edited by: Death Priest on 27/07/2007 01:38:04
Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate
Originally by: Felxia Is this true. Well from a security point of view I understand but I guess it's what you pay for paying rent in bobs space.
Yep.
To be part of BOBs fantastic coalition, you not only have to pay a high rent for horrible pieces of space, they also decide who gets into your alliance and who doesn't.
If this is True then SOMEONE has a Titanic Ego and E-Peen that must be constantly "Petted" Anyone or any Alliance that allows this much control of a rented space might as well quit the game. No Flames intended but this sounds rediculous TBH 
There's a hundred ways to spin this.
Landlord > Hi, that roommate you want, was previously a tenant and he ****ed up my rooms Tenant > Oh, really? Landlord > Yeah I'd really appreciate it if you didn't bring him back, it's not worth it to have him around. Tenant > Oh I see, fair enough.
Summary's ftw.
Computer
Game
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Mihailo Great
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.27 02:16:00 -
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Originally by: Aeleva
Its hard to mine when there is no security and you are likely to get ganked before long.
What security does the GBC have other than from a sieging ennemy? none. BOB does not stop gankers roaming through your space. Ask GONAD.
Originally by: Aeleva
Of note with regards to GBC - The very good reason bob will vet applicants is that they dont want crappy isk farmy corps joining up, or leechers. If you want to join you need to be able to pull your weight and help out, not just leech off your fellow alliance members and make them look bad.
TBH i think its the most sensible policy.
Problem is, it never was true, but nice try. Xelas anyone? Miners with Attitude? It is perhaps you have ****ty alliance names that most other pets don't remember them, but a lot of BOB pets are no more.
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Proxay
Gallente Fallen Angel's Blade.
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Posted - 2007.07.27 02:20:00 -
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Originally by: Mihailo Great
Problem is, it never was true, but nice try. Xelas anyone? Miners with Attitude? It is perhaps you have ****ty alliance names that most other pets don't remember them, but a lot of BOB pets are no more.
Problem is, you don't know what you're talking about here.
Xelas <-> Bob had no communications, Xelas was in the entirety of about a year working completely separate from bob, and about the only thing the two entities shared was an intel channel or two.
Xelas wasn't a bob renter, they were never vetted for which corps joined or not, Xelas was there to 'occupy' fountain, and to deter small entities from ever getting a foothold.
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Neo Triton
Amarr Unamed Mofos
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Posted - 2007.07.27 02:22:00 -
[46]
thats not true, they let fatal in......
Nt
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cal nereus
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.27 03:17:00 -
[47]
The FTZ was a Free Trade Zone, ANYONE could participate as long as they respected a couple rules. There was no exclusion.
The idea of one alliance dictating what corps could join another alliance, on the other hand, does imply exclusion.
That's the proposed difference, although personally I fail to see any proof of the latter happening, and the former did not exactly work... ---
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Zarimax Mishka
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.27 03:41:00 -
[48]
It's going to get REAL interesting when these pets û RISE, RMF, SOCO û get sovereignty level 4 and realize that they can turtle up with cyno jammers and jump bridges and invulnerable POSes and defend themselves without paying BoB a penny...
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Luc Ferros
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Posted - 2007.07.27 03:42:00 -
[49]
You know the south park episode that made fun of WoW? Those guys make me think that that is what the BoB CEOs look like 
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RabbidFerret
Target Practice Inc. Frontline.
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Posted - 2007.07.27 04:03:00 -
[50]
1 a: a pampered and usually spoiled child b: a person who is treated with unusual kindness or consideration : darling 2: a domesticated animal kept for pleasure rather than utility.
I see nothing about alliances here.
However, 2a is a common misconception- Cats make very good utility tools, you just have to know how to use them.
Co-CEO Target Practice Inc. Frontline. Alliance
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Rikeka
Amarr Eye of God X-PACT
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Posted - 2007.07.27 04:08:00 -
[51]
From a security point of view, is a smart thing to do... +-+-+-+-+ "I am matter... I am anti-matter... I can see your past... I can see your future... I consume time... And I will consume you!"
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Proxay
Gallente Fallen Angel's Blade.
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Posted - 2007.07.27 04:31:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Yggdrassill Yeltsin
Originally by: Proxay
There's a hundred ways to spin this.
Landlord > Hi, that roommate you want, was previously a tenant and he ****ed up my rooms Tenant > Oh, really? Landlord > Yeah I'd really appreciate it if you didn't bring him back, it's not worth it to have him around. Tenant > Oh I see, fair enough.
Summary's ftw.
Computer
Game
Since your mind is too small to comprehend analogies, here's another version.
BoB > Hi there, you know that corporation you want to recruit, we've had past incidents with them, and they've generally proved to be quite useless. GBC Member > Really? BoB > Yeah, we'd appreciate it if you didn't bring them into the GBC since it'd probably end up with them leaching resources and probably just screwing up things. GBC Member > kk, np.
Did you understand that one? Or do I need to teach you the ABC, followed by basic English?
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Orangir
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.27 04:41:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Proxay
Originally by: Yggdrassill Yeltsin
Originally by: Proxay
There's a hundred ways to spin this.
Landlord > Hi, that roommate you want, was previously a tenant and he ****ed up my rooms Tenant > Oh, really? Landlord > Yeah I'd really appreciate it if you didn't bring him back, it's not worth it to have him around. Tenant > Oh I see, fair enough.
Summary's ftw.
Computer
Game
Since your mind is too small to comprehend analogies, here's another version.
BoB > Hi there, you know that corporation you want to recruit, we've had past incidents with them, and they've generally proved to be quite useless. GBC Member > Really? BoB > Yeah, we'll kick you out and set you red if you bring them into the GBC, oh and your rent is due, plus we're holding a mandatory op in 9-9 be there or your alliance will be removed, also we're going to require another batch of POSes so get on that. GBC Member > kk, np.
Did you understand that one? Or do I need to teach you the ABC, followed by basic English?
hurf blurf fixed for reality
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Angelus Damelon
Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.07.27 04:50:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Zarimax Mishka It's going to get REAL interesting when these pets û RISE, RMF, SOCO û get sovereignty level 4 and realize that they can turtle up with cyno jammers and jump bridges and invulnerable POSes and defend themselves without paying BoB a penny...
Or is BoB forbidding pets from getting constellation capitals?
ahahahahah RMF or SOCO defending themselves aaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha
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Proxay
Gallente Fallen Angel's Blade.
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Posted - 2007.07.27 05:01:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Orangir
hurf blurf fixed for reality
How many alliances have been booted from the GBC Mr. Goon?
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Johnny ReeRee
The ReeRee Brigade
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Posted - 2007.07.27 05:05:00 -
[56]
Edited by: Johnny ReeRee on 27/07/2007 05:09:22
Originally by: Achaiah Also, if your alliance accepts that Joshua Foiritain mark your alliance's space as BoB space in that map of his, you are a pet.
You mean like how the goonies used to send sad little notes to Joshua begging him to mark goonie space as RA space, because they didn't want the attention? (This was after getting crushed utterly in Syndicate.)
RA let you guys use a plex yet?
Seeing goonies and IAC people going on about pets over and over and over again pretty much is an automatic winner for the "Best inadvertent self-reference" category for the Interwebs awards. Just great stuff.
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Orangir
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.27 05:23:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Proxay
Originally by: Orangir
hurf blurf fixed for reality
How many alliances have been booted from the GBC Mr. Goon?
Xelas and GONAD in the past month alone? Not sure about any before that, I never paid attention to BoB pets until we started removing them.
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Proxay
Gallente Fallen Angel's Blade.
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Posted - 2007.07.27 05:25:00 -
[58]
Edited by: Proxay on 27/07/2007 05:26:10
Originally by: Orangir
Originally by: Proxay
Originally by: Orangir
hurf blurf fixed for reality
How many alliances have been booted from the GBC Mr. Goon?
Xelas and GONAD in the past month alone? Not sure about any before that, I never paid attention to BoB pets until we started removing them.
Xelas and The H orde to my knowledge, and for good reason looking back, it's not like they'll attack a useful and committed ally. You're simply trying to score e-points with your fellow goons for trying to belittle your foe.
You fail, and I can only hope that the enemies you belittle come back to bite you in the arse and destroy your alliance.
H orde is a swear word!?!?!?!
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cal nereus
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.27 05:29:00 -
[59]
Edited by: cal nereus on 27/07/2007 05:30:06 There are two types of organizational structures that I see at work here: hierarchy and committee.
BoB and its allies seem to be very hierarchical, while RA and Goonswarm are less so.
RedSwarm seems to be an alliance of autonomous entities, although clearly one is the big bear and the other the bees. The bees help the bear and the bear helps the bees, and although one seems more dangerous than the other, both mutually benefit from the relationship. Command is not centralized with one or the other except in times when it is needed.
Band of Brothers and most of its allies, on the other hand, are a true hierarchy. One dominant powerhouse that is on the top of a pyramid containing the other lesser powers at the base. Some real-world analogies might include the League of Delos (Athens) or the Warsaw Pact (Soviet Union). I would like to point out that this hierarchical structure of alliance has worked in the past, and from a security view point it is a smart move on the part of BoB.
There are exceptions in both camps, but I'm not going to mention them, because I'm wallowing in my own bias.  ---
Grismar.net |

Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.27 06:10:00 -
[60]
Originally by: fire 59
Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate
Originally by: fire 59 Edited by: fire 59 on 26/07/2007 23:06:48 Kinda like your ftz huh 
Edit - and the irony of the goonies talking about pets after there failed ftz which charged the residents and told them what they could do and fact they are the biggest pet ingame is laughable.
Throwing stones in glass houses eh 
You're pretty stupid when it comes to how things work.
You're pretty stupid in regards to everything
Fire 59 is the worst poster on eve-o, quote dis if ur down
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killerco
Gallente Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.07.27 06:22:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate
Originally by: Felxia Is this true. Well from a security point of view I understand but I guess it's what you pay for paying rent in bobs space.
Yep.
To be part of BOBs fantastic coalition, you not only have to pay a high rent for horrible pieces of space, they also decide who gets into your alliance and who doesn't.
so did yopu pay back your debt/rent too RA yet? 
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Orangir
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.27 06:36:00 -
[62]
Edited by: Orangir on 27/07/2007 06:37:35
Originally by: Proxay You fail, and I can only hope that the enemies you belittle come back to bite you in the arse and destroy your alliance.
Goonswarm will rue the day they belittled the likes of Rise, Southern Connection, and Red Moon Federation. I can only hope they'll show pity and set us blue when we're forced to evacuate our assets from SP. 
Originally by: killerco so did yopu pay back your debt/rent too RA yet? 
Wait, people still believe that myth?
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Righteous Fury
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.07.27 06:46:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Orangir Wait, people still believe that myth?
Probably around the same amount of people who believe that all GBC participants pay rent. Oh. wait.
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nickycakes
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.27 06:50:00 -
[64]
whaddya know, goons get laughed off SA forums so they have to have their circlejerk thread parties here
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Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.27 06:51:00 -
[65]
Come on folk, the point isn't that only letting certain people into their space is good policy - it is. We realize this. The point is that many of the BoB pets defend themselves against pet allegations by saying that they are free and independent entities who simply happen to pay rent, whereas the reality is more along the lines of BoB telling them exactly what is and is not allowed and kicking them out should they not meet expectations.
Which is pretty amusing considering we're playing an e-space e-game.
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Johnny ReeRee
The ReeRee Brigade
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Posted - 2007.07.27 06:52:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Orangir Edited by: Orangir on 27/07/2007 06:37:35
Originally by: Proxay You fail, and I can only hope that the enemies you belittle come back to bite you in the arse and destroy your alliance.
Goonswarm will rue the day they belittled the likes of Rise, Southern Connection, and Red Moon Federation. I can only hope they'll show pity and set us blue when we're forced to evacuate our assets from SP. 
Originally by: killerco so did yopu pay back your debt/rent too RA yet? 
Wait, people still believe that myth?
So, when RA tells you to jump, do you say "how high?" or "Как высоко?".
Have they let you run any complexes yet?
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Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.27 06:54:00 -
[67]
Edited by: Martin VanBuren on 27/07/2007 06:53:53
Originally by: Johnny ReeRee
Originally by: Orangir Edited by: Orangir on 27/07/2007 06:37:35
Originally by: Proxay You fail, and I can only hope that the enemies you belittle come back to bite you in the arse and destroy your alliance.
Goonswarm will rue the day they belittled the likes of Rise, Southern Connection, and Red Moon Federation. I can only hope they'll show pity and set us blue when we're forced to evacuate our assets from SP. 
Originally by: killerco so did yopu pay back your debt/rent too RA yet? 
Wait, people still believe that myth?
So, when RA tells you to jump, do you say "how high?" or "Как высоко?".
Have they let you run any complexes yet?
Hahaha goonies are so ignorant about the GBC they are so dumb now lets make a bunch of assumptions about their relationship with RA this will make us look intelligent.
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Johnny ReeRee
The ReeRee Brigade
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Posted - 2007.07.27 06:54:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Martin VanBuren Come on folk, the point isn't that only letting certain people into their space is good policy - it is. We realize this. The point is that many of the BoB pets defend themselves against pet allegations by saying that they are free and independent entities who simply happen to pay rent, whereas the reality is more along the lines of BoB telling them exactly what is and is not allowed and kicking them out should they not meet expectations.
Which is pretty amusing considering we're playing an e-space e-game.
So why is then you fell under RA's skirts in the first place? It's just a game right? Why didn't you stand on your own?
RA let you in a complex yet?
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.27 07:05:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Gneeznow
Originally by: fire 59
Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate
Originally by: fire 59 Edited by: fire 59 on 26/07/2007 23:06:48 Kinda like your ftz huh 
Edit - and the irony of the goonies talking about pets after there failed ftz which charged the residents and told them what they could do and fact they are the biggest pet ingame is laughable.
Throwing stones in glass houses eh 
You're pretty stupid when it comes to how things work.
You're pretty stupid in regards to everything
Fire 59 is the worst poster on eve-o, quote dis if ur down
Your lips are moving but all i hear is waa waa waa waaa waaaaa. Scary when theres two sides to an argument isn't it 
GOONIES = OMNIPOTENCE INCARNATE |

Groox
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.07.27 07:09:00 -
[70]
Just for the record. Can we have "official" Goonswarm approved BOB pets list?
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Deeviant
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.27 07:22:00 -
[71]
Fire 59 is not only the worst poster on Eve-O, but perhaps the entire internet. Her mother would be proud.
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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.07.27 07:32:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Martin VanBuren
Hahaha goonies are so ignorant about the GBC they are so dumb now lets make a bunch of assumptions about their relationship with RA this will make us look intelligent.
Which is exactly what you goonies are doing WRT the GBC.
Double standards FTW?
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Lorn Yeager
Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.07.27 07:36:00 -
[73]
Its getting comical how much goons beat the "omg you are pets" horse.
Whats the point anyway? Are we suppose to loose morale and stop shooting?
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Laura Baretta
Minmatar Excidium.
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Posted - 2007.07.27 07:47:00 -
[74]
Why do you embarrass yourself by creating topics like this?
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Koboldew
Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.07.27 07:55:00 -
[75]
Originally by: nickycakes whaddya know, goons get laughed off SA forums so they have to have their circlejerk thread parties here
Cakie you made my day 
Pet this, Pet that ummm ok... What ever helps you log on at night...
p.s. When do U.s. highschool/jr highs/middleschools start up again.. me thinks it will be alittle less busy around here then...
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Alice Cholmondeley
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Posted - 2007.07.27 08:35:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Deeviant Fire 59 is not only the worst poster on Eve-O, but perhaps the entire internet. Her mother would be proud.
Naming yourself after a forum community that hates you: Priceless. |

Deaell Portt
Koshaku Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.27 08:50:00 -
[77]
Typical goons bull****. Pet,wh*** who cares.
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The Anointed
Caldari KR0M The Red Skull
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Posted - 2007.07.27 09:07:00 -
[78]
Makes sense to me. It prevents all sorts of problems.
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Sooshie
Gallente The 5 Amigo's LLC. NxT LeveL
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Posted - 2007.07.27 11:11:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate
Originally by: Felxia Is this true. Well from a security point of view I understand but I guess it's what you pay for paying rent in bobs space.
Yep.
To be part of BOBs fantastic coalition, you not only have to pay a high rent for horrible pieces of space, they also decide who gets into your alliance and who doesn't.
they have to make sure the rent bills are paid on time.
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Halkin
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.07.27 11:16:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate If your alliance isn't allowed to decide which corps join your alliance, and Dianabolic does it for you, you are a pet.
I'd like to hear from some of the members of GBC (Greater BOB Community) what they think about this policy, because apparently it applies to them.
troll, and also you are a hypocrit. checks your own backyard before you crap in someone elses
Originally by: Paper Rock's fine, nerf Scissors
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Tintagel Seer
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Posted - 2007.07.27 11:16:00 -
[81]
Goes all giddy at being in a BoB post on COAD
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.27 11:33:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Deeviant Fire 59 is not only the worst poster on Eve-O, but perhaps the entire internet. Her mother would be proud.
Aaww baby, it's okay. I'm sorry if i find it easy to outwit you and make you sad and run to your mommy. It must be tough to have some folks see through the trash and actually say it is such, how dare they. I envisiage you getting upset and sitting with a trembling lip and tears in your eyes.
Just rememebr, the words are only pixels on a screen and can't hurt you baby, or get you in your dreams. Just pull your blanky up and fill your hot water bottle up and you will be fine 
GOONIES = OMNIPOTENCE INCARNATE |

DTee
The Huns
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Posted - 2007.07.27 11:42:00 -
[83]
Edited by: DTee on 27/07/2007 11:46:33 Paying rent is lame. Especially if you live in npc regions :/
*looks at fountain*
Those paying BoB 1b to live there sadden me, since making 1b for doing absoloutely NOTHING is sad. I wish i'd thought of it. Maybe I'm just jealous! Dian you genious!
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Ogodai John
The Bakhunov Family
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Posted - 2007.07.27 11:42:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley
Originally by: Deeviant Fire 59 is not only the worst poster on Eve-O, but perhaps the entire internet. Her mother would be proud.
Naming yourself after a forum community that hates you: Priceless.
Speaking for a forum community that thinks you're a spineless alt: even more priceless. So priceless, one could almost call it "cheap". 
Nah, seriously, you're one of the better BoB officially unofficial involved bystanders here. Not good, granted, but not as bad as most of the others.
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Heikki
Gallente Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.07.27 11:50:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate If your alliance isn't allowed to decide which corps join .. you are a pet
Considering that our structure is slowly approaching (ok, lets imagine it would be) that of Feudal Europe, wouldn't the proper terms be like 'serf', 'vasal', or even 'barony'? All being words used to describe parties in dependant but un-equal relationships.
A pet is more associated with something kept for company and amusement; can't really see Sir Molle having that twisted sense of humour (and should you kick your dog in groins, you'll make it angry ; unlike what happens with BOB and her vasals).
Perhaps we really need 'Walking in Station' and Eve-TV to see the political landscape in reality : who all need to bow and lick Molle's toes on BOB's reception.
-Lasse against dipoles
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Stoffer Ninjapirate
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.27 12:53:00 -
[86]
Edited by: Stoffer Ninjapirate on 27/07/2007 12:53:46
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Yggdrassill Yeltsin Edited by: Yggdrassill Yeltsin on 27/07/2007 01:18:01
Originally by: Aeleva
Originally by: Scatim Helicon Edited by: Scatim Helicon on 26/07/2007 23:59:14
Originally by: fire 59 Edited by: fire 59 on 26/07/2007 23:06:48 Kinda like your ftz huh
Quite the opposite. The biggest failing (from this grunt's perspective) that we had with the FTZ was that we threw it open to whoever wanted in and didn't vet applicants properly for what we needed, and so rather than the influx of miners and producers we were hoping to get we ended up with 90%+ ratters, which aren't all that great in a scheme primarily aimed at building up local markets.
Sorry about the lack of flaming in this post, I'll try harder next time.
Its hard to mine when there is no security and you are likely to get ganked before long.
Of note with regards to GBC - The very good reason bob will vet applicants is that they dont want crappy isk farmy corps joining up, or leechers. If you want to join you need to be able to pull your weight and help out, not just leech off your fellow alliance members and make them look bad.
TBH i think its the most sensible policy.
I don't think anyone is arguing that this isn't a reasonable step for BoB (from a harsh Machiavellian standpoint, anyway). The point is that any sovereign alliance that allows itself to be dictated to by BoB should probably reconsider any rationale they make to themselves and others that they are in fact sovereign and independent.
If you are ruled by another, that other rules you. Simple. Not that there's anything wrong with that, if that's what you're into.
Everyone does it.
Or, rather, everyone with half a brain - any space holding entity that allows a guest groupt to join without any checks and balances on their membership will also do so to any other group in that community. Security for one, means security for all - those that don't realise that won't fit in so it really is no loss if people prefer to be "sovereign" in someone elses space (oxymorons are great, aren't they?)
In criticising groups that accept our rule on this, you also criticise your own. If that is your intention, more power to you, it does however (imo) show a distinct lack of understanding of the tenant / landlord relationship of 0.0 space.
Hey, thanks for atleast being honest. What I'd really like to know, is which alliances are not allowed to administer their own corp recruitment?
And about understanding the tenant / landlord thing, it's more likely about not understanding that everyone doesn't play the game the same way. You know, some people are power hungry slave drivers, some are not.
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jernej
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.27 13:09:00 -
[87]
If you need the backup of three alliances before you can leave your POS, you are a pet.
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Nlewis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.27 13:20:00 -
[88]
I say we kick these goonies out of 0.0 space so we can all enjoy eve online
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Lorn Yeager
Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.07.27 13:21:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate
What I'd really like to know, is which alliances are not allowed to administer their own corp recruitment?
Say... have your altcorp been rejected somewhere? ;-)
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Torshin
Prophets Of a Damned Universe
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Posted - 2007.07.27 13:27:00 -
[90]
Edited by: Torshin on 27/07/2007 13:28:30 Im going to do a mass reply to the number of posts that involve me or my former alliance.
1. Fatal guy actually I am pretty much an expert on the GBC. I ran every corp that I was attempting to have join my alliance through Avancade before accepting their application. He never once said no. 2. Random GOON who thinks he knows anything about GONAD rent contract with BOB something the great. No where in my talks with Avancade or Dianabolic was it agreed upon that BOB would defend us from Black Ops of GOONs. It was a failure on my part to underestimate the focus that the goons would put on us and an over estimation of how quickly bob would move forward and take 77s. 3. Random GOON who claims GONADs were thrown out like Xelas. We fell apart because of a failure to establish cohession between our corps and internal issues amongst the leadership team. These were catalyized by a constant GOON black Ops presence. 4. Angelus either you are ignorant or just trying really hard to troll because RMF is a strong alliance and has held out against seiges many times. Your alliance is trying way to hard to bandwagon onto the GOONs back, i know you guys consider yourself one in the same but you should think about who you are talking about before you post. You are a much better poster on SHC then on Eve-O.
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Backdoor Bandit - Unofficial leader of the new 'Post with your main or STFU' campaign. I'm Shinra and I'm the champion of Eve. |
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Yggdrassill Yeltsin
The Greater Goon
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Posted - 2007.07.27 13:34:00 -
[91]
Edited by: Yggdrassill Yeltsin on 27/07/2007 13:35:33 Edited by: Yggdrassill Yeltsin on 27/07/2007 13:35:00
Originally by: Lorn Yeager
Its getting comical how much goons beat the "omg you are pets" horse.
Whats the point anyway? Are we suppose to loose morale and stop shooting?
There's a fundamental misunderstanding here. Goons are assuming that the alliances under BoB want to be independent entities and desire to have pride in controlling themselves, because that's the way the goons feel. If all of the "pets" in this thread are to be believed, being independent simply isn't that valuable to them, so the goons aren't getting the psychological value that they would if they were talking to people similar to themselves.
I suppose you should agree to disagree. 
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Yggdrassill Yeltsin
The Greater Goon
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Posted - 2007.07.27 13:40:00 -
[92]
Originally by: cal nereus Edited by: cal nereus on 27/07/2007 05:30:06 There are two types of organizational structures that I see at work here: hierarchy and committee.
BoB and its allies seem to be very hierarchical, while RA and Goonswarm are less so.
RedSwarm seems to be an alliance of autonomous entities, although clearly one is the big bear and the other the bees. The bees help the bear and the bear helps the bees, and although one seems more dangerous than the other, both mutually benefit from the relationship. Command is not centralized with one or the other except in times when it is needed.
Band of Brothers and most of its allies, on the other hand, are a true hierarchy. One dominant powerhouse that is on the top of a pyramid containing the other lesser powers at the base. Some real-world analogies might include the League of Delos (Athens) or the Warsaw Pact (Soviet Union). I would like to point out that this hierarchical structure of alliance has worked in the past, and from a security view point it is a smart move on the part of BoB.
There are exceptions in both camps, but I'm not going to mention them, because I'm wallowing in my own bias. 
Nice
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Princess Jodi
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.07.27 13:45:00 -
[93]
Originally by: PirateShampoo Edited by: PirateShampoo on 26/07/2007 22:55:09 Can't say I know of any alliance in which BoB has any say whatsoever in which corporations are members. You have some proof?
If this is your definition of a BoB pet then there are NO bob pets in existence unless of course you can categorically prove otherwise?
No? I did not think so. 
Ask Fix. That was the condition placed on them when Bob 'saved' them from the greuling war over a year ago when 6 alliances were pounding on them. Its why our corp left. We were also forbidden from putting up our own Outpost. All stations were to be owned by Bob.
Enough proof for ya?
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Alias11
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.27 14:18:00 -
[94]
Originally by: fire 59
Originally by: Deeviant Fire 59 is not only the worst poster on Eve-O, but perhaps the entire internet. Her mother would be proud.
Aaww baby, it's okay. I'm sorry if i find it easy to outwit you and make you sad and run to your mommy. It must be tough to have some folks see through the trash and actually say it is such, how dare they. I envisiage you getting upset and sitting with a trembling lip and tears in your eyes.
Just rememebr, the words are only pixels on a screen and can't hurt you baby, or get you in your dreams. Just pull your blanky up and fill your hot water bottle up and you will be fine 
shouting 'ur stoopit' over and over a man of wit does not make, don't you have some terrible attempts at baiting to do in local somewhere?
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PirateShampoo
Minmatar UK Corp FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.27 15:42:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Princess Jodi
Originally by: PirateShampoo Edited by: PirateShampoo on 26/07/2007 22:55:09 Can't say I know of any alliance in which BoB has any say whatsoever in which corporations are members. You have some proof?
If this is your definition of a BoB pet then there are NO bob pets in existence unless of course you can categorically prove otherwise?
No? I did not think so. 
Ask Fix. That was the condition placed on them when Bob 'saved' them from the greuling war over a year ago when 6 alliances were pounding on them. Its why our corp left. We were also forbidden from putting up our own Outpost. All stations were to be owned by Bob.
Enough proof for ya?
Ya that will do, so it's obvious that are multiple standards operating here then? I know for a fact that BoB did not ever vet FATAL member corp when we had our little stay in fountain. I am fairly sure AXE was not vetted in this manner also?
So in response to the OP, its clear that not all so called pets are made equal and by his own definition some people regullary called pets by your allies princess are not pets, and some are.. Does that clear everything up?
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Pociomundo
Gallente World Order The Imperial Order
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Posted - 2007.07.27 17:06:00 -
[96]
Originally by: BuIIseye A pet in need is a pet indeed
a pet with weed is better
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Nick Curso
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.27 17:09:00 -
[97]
Originally by: BuIIseye A pet in need is a pet indeed
a pet with weed is better
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Kola XXX
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.27 19:12:00 -
[98]
Do you people actually play eve or just read crap here, assume is real and discuss?
When are the renters gonna turn on BoB, they can have thier own lev 4 sov blah blah.
The op's statements are ********. "If your alliance isn't allowed to decide which corps join your alliance, and Dianabolic does it for you, you are a pet." if not you are a spy riddled alliance like redswam begging for renters to trun on thier landlords cuz you have ran out of luck...see you in space. oh  
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Johnny ReeRee
The ReeRee Brigade
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Posted - 2007.07.27 19:16:00 -
[99]
Edited by: Johnny ReeRee on 27/07/2007 19:21:00
Originally by: Yggdrassill Yeltsin Edited by: Yggdrassill Yeltsin on 27/07/2007 13:35:33 Edited by: Yggdrassill Yeltsin on 27/07/2007 13:35:00
Originally by: Lorn Yeager
Its getting comical how much goons beat the "omg you are pets" horse.
Whats the point anyway? Are we suppose to loose morale and stop shooting?
There's a fundamental misunderstanding here. Goons are assuming that the alliances under BoB want to be independent entities and desire to have pride in controlling themselves, because that's the way the goons feel. If all of the "pets" in this thread are to be believed, being independent simply isn't that valuable to them, so the goons aren't getting the psychological value that they would if they were talking to people similar to themselves.
I suppose you should agree to disagree. 
If you really feel that way, then how come the goonies didn't act as an independent entity?
Why did you run and hide behind RA's skirts after you were driven out of Syndicate? Why didn't you stand on your own? Why did you beg Joshua to have goonie-occupied systems labelled as RA on his map?
I'd be amused, but goonie logics frighten and confuse me! lawlz!11!
[insert ironic amusement here]
P.S. RA ever let you run a complex down there?
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Scatim Helicon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.27 20:23:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Aeleva
Originally by: Scatim Helicon rather than the influx of miners and producers we were hoping to get we ended up with 90%+ ratters
Its hard to mine when there is no security and you are likely to get ganked before long.
No more so than to rat - PvE Ravens don't really last much longer when caught by a roaming PvP gang than mining Ospreys do - and as I said we had no shortage of ratters.
Besides, the fact that the FTZ was operating for as long as it did in our space, and that we shut it down ourselves when we determined that it wasn't working out for us (rather than have it fall apart under us as the tenants got endlessly perma-ganked and said 'screw this' after a week or two), suggests that things weren't as bad as you say, no?
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Falryx
Caldari Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e
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Posted - 2007.07.27 20:37:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Zarimax Mishka It's going to get REAL interesting when these pets û RISE, RMF, SOCO û get sovereignty level 4 and realize that they can turtle up with cyno jammers and jump bridges and invulnerable POSes and defend themselves without paying BoB a penny...
Or is BoB forbidding pets from getting constellation capitals?
Speaking for RISE, we've no interest in trying to unilaterally change our arrangement with BoB and the GBC. Sov4 will not change that we find our allies in the GBC to largely be easier to work with and more likely to cover one-another's back than the political alliances we enjoyed prior to joining the GBC.
We like our allies, we respect the agreements we 'signed' when we came to Feythabolis, and we're enjoying the fights (please keep bringing 'em and keep 'em smack free -- we like that best!).
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Deeviant
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.27 22:16:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Johnny ReeRee
I'd be amused, but goonie logics frighten and confuse me! lawlz!11!
Don't get my wrong here, but I'm pretty sure "logics" of any type confuse you. But its rather normal rather, nothing to post with an alt about.
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Waldorf
Black Nova Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.27 22:31:00 -
[103]
I find it highly ironic to hear Goons talk about 'pet' alliances when they themselves are the biggest 'pet' alliance in the game! 
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phillie blunt
Live And Let Die
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Posted - 2007.07.27 22:45:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Waldorf I find it highly ironic to hear Goons talk about 'pet' alliances when they themselves are the biggest 'pet' alliance in the game! 
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.27 23:32:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Alias11
Originally by: fire 59
Originally by: Deeviant Fire 59 is not only the worst poster on Eve-O, but perhaps the entire internet. Her mother would be proud.
Aaww baby, it's okay. I'm sorry if i find it easy to outwit you and make you sad and run to your mommy. It must be tough to have some folks see through the trash and actually say it is such, how dare they. I envisiage you getting upset and sitting with a trembling lip and tears in your eyes.
Just rememebr, the words are only pixels on a screen and can't hurt you baby, or get you in your dreams. Just pull your blanky up and fill your hot water bottle up and you will be fine 
shouting 'ur stoopit' over and over a man of wit does not make, don't you have some terrible attempts at baiting to do in local somewhere?
If you mean by me baiting, responding to you guys giggling and snorting about rl suicide. No thanks, no point arguing with stupid people, they drag you down to there level and beat you with experience 
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Savesti Kyrsst
Minmatar White-Noise Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.27 23:36:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Nick Curso
Originally by: BuIIseye A pet in need is a pet indeed
a pet with weed is better
A pet with ******* and all the rest 
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Meter
Caldari Firing Squad Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.27 23:38:00 -
[107]
Edited by: Meter on 27/07/2007 23:38:43
Originally by: fire 59
Originally by: Alias11
Originally by: fire 59
Originally by: Deeviant Fire 59 is not only the worst poster on Eve-O, but perhaps the entire internet. Her mother would be proud.
Aaww baby, it's okay. I'm sorry if i find it easy to outwit you and make you sad and run to your mommy. It must be tough to have some folks see through the trash and actually say it is such, how dare they. I envisiage you getting upset and sitting with a trembling lip and tears in your eyes.
Just rememebr, the words are only pixels on a screen and can't hurt you baby, or get you in your dreams. Just pull your blanky up and fill your hot water bottle up and you will be fine 
shouting 'ur stoopit' over and over a man of wit does not make, don't you have some terrible attempts at baiting to do in local somewhere?
If you mean by me baiting, responding to you guys giggling and snorting about rl suicide. No thanks, no point arguing with stupid people, they drag you down to there level and beat you with experience 
Edit: that wasn't very polite of me :(
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Yggdrassill Yeltsin
The Greater Goon
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Posted - 2007.07.28 00:27:00 -
[108]
Edited by: Yggdrassill Yeltsin on 28/07/2007 00:29:32
Originally by: Johnny ReeRee Edited by: Johnny ReeRee on 27/07/2007 19:21:00
Originally by: Yggdrassill Yeltsin Edited by: Yggdrassill Yeltsin on 27/07/2007 13:35:33 Edited by: Yggdrassill Yeltsin on 27/07/2007 13:35:00
Originally by: Lorn Yeager
Its getting comical how much goons beat the "omg you are pets" horse.
Whats the point anyway? Are we suppose to loose morale and stop shooting?
There's a fundamental misunderstanding here. Goons are assuming that the alliances under BoB want to be independent entities and desire to have pride in controlling themselves, because that's the way the goons feel. If all of the "pets" in this thread are to be believed, being independent simply isn't that valuable to them, so the goons aren't getting the psychological value that they would if they were talking to people similar to themselves.
I suppose you should agree to disagree. 
If you really feel that way, then how come the goonies didn't act as an independent entity?
Why did you run and hide behind RA's skirts after you were driven out of Syndicate? Why didn't you stand on your own? Why did you beg Joshua to have goonie-occupied systems labelled as RA on his map?
I'd be amused, but goonie logics frighten and confuse me! lawlz!11!
[insert ironic amusement here]
P.S. RA ever let you run a complex down there?
The entire point of this thread, which you seem to be ignoring, is that living in the same space and protecting each other is one thing; living in the same space, (maybe) protecting each other, AND one organization controlling internal affairs of another are two different things.
The relationship between Goonswarm and RA is not the same fundamental relationship as that between BoB and it's allies- the devil is in the details in this argument.
I would assume that Goonfleet asked not to be listed as seperate because they wanted time to build and arm while they moved into their new space. What does this have to do with RA controlling internal Goonfleet policies and politics? Nothing. Ding ding ding...the point of the thread.
As for the complexes, I notice none of the goons are answering you. I'm not in goonfleet, so I can say that as far as I understand, they didn't want them anyway.
OHLOL
LET THE BASHING BEGIN
Real question, as a relatively new player- are complexes still easy to run now that most of the static ones are gone? Is there a 10/10 somewhere in a certain area of space every day, or is it more random than that?
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Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.28 00:37:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Waldorf I find it highly ironic to hear Goons talk about 'pet' alliances when they themselves are the biggest 'pet' alliance in the game! 
Oh man you got us there, pack it up COAD goons lets go home
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CynWulf
Exiled.
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Posted - 2007.07.28 01:39:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate If your alliance isn't allowed to decide which corps join your alliance, and Dianabolic does it for you, you are a pet.
I'd like to hear from some of the members of GBC (Greater BOB Community) what they think about this policy, because apparently it applies to them.
man seriously STFU and go get a job. freaking Goons... whaaa whaaa whaaa
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CrispyKritters
Caldari GoonFleet
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Posted - 2007.07.28 01:58:00 -
[111]
Edited by: CrispyKritters on 28/07/2007 01:59:16
Originally by: Martin VanBuren
Originally by: Waldorf I find it highly ironic to hear Goons talk about 'pet' alliances when they themselves are the biggest 'pet' alliance in the game! 
Oh man you got us there, pack it up COAD goons lets go home
WAIT! We have to ask our Red Overloads whether we can pack up yet or if we need to continue. We don't want to angry them or they might kick us out of Fountain... oh wai
Originally by: CynWulf
Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate If your alliance isn't allowed to decide which corps join your alliance, and Dianabolic does it for you, you are a pet.
I'd like to hear from some of the members of GBC (Greater BOB Community) what they think about this policy, because apparently it applies to them.
man seriously STFU and go get a job. freaking Goons... whaaa whaaa whaaa
no u
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Murina
Gallente The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.28 02:34:00 -
[112]
Oh joy another anti bob thread phrased as a question.
Id say the corps or alliances that pay rent in bob space (if they do) are proly the carebear type who do not fight but just make isk but i know for a fact that fatal pay nothing and in fact got 2 station for fighting along side bob allies and mc in the north.
So by your measure because we were the ones getting paid does that make bob our pets?.
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Musgrat
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Posted - 2007.07.28 02:44:00 -
[113]
Edited by: Musgrat on 28/07/2007 02:44:26 edited
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musgrattio
Convergent Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.07.28 02:46:00 -
[114]
This is my understanding of our relationship with BoB. It is somewhat inherently inaccurate, as I didn't make the actual deal, and it was never posted in its entirety to my understanding. That said, basically FIX gets control of FIX space, but in BoB's name. We own 4 stations in Q, and BoB owns 1. Other than that, they have next to 0 poses in Q, while we basically have some in every system. So the Sov thing is not an issue.
As for letting corps in, if we really wanted another corp in FIX, it would get in. In the beginning, it was strongly suggested to limit ourselves to bigger and fewer corps. That has worked very well for us, but so you know, we have added corps since that strong suggestion. But FIX generally agree that bigger/fewer corps are much better, because it gives more structure to the overall alliance. You get to keep most of the crappy issues inside your corp without having to bother the alliance about it.
In the end, we really don't care that you don't like our relationships with BoB, because:
1) You assume everyone wants to be like you....... No really, Goons do think that. 2) You have never been able to beat BoB+allies, and that really ****es you off. Understandably. 3) You don't get that there is more to the game than winning. I genuinely like BoB, after flying with them just a few times. They are the best, and we accept that. I mean really, if we were better than BoB, there would be some reason to not like the current relationship. But as it stands now, it gives us a plethora of ways to grow that we would not be able to take advantage of any other way.
So we're happy with our arrangement. It is widely known that when we are strong enough to hold our space, it will be ours. The thing is, we have become the punching bag of the South, and while that makes my day, it has disadvantages. Such as a high burnout/dropout rate within FIX. I understand, it's not for everybody. But it seems like just when we start to really get good, we have a wave of guys leaving. Like I said, that's fine. There are enough loyal guys that it never gets desperate, and it's nice to always have new faces in gang.
So I hope this gives you a little better picture of the relationship between BoB and FIX. I do try to stay out of these threads, but it seemed a little one-sided. Hopefully the average CAOD reader will see that most of the time, when you have to resort to name calling and labeling your opponents such things as "pets," it's because you don't have anything else worth listening to. Oh btw, this applies to everyone here. There are some FIX and BoB that would do well to stop posting here. But hey, it is all in fun right??? hmmmm........ silly people.
See you guys in space, and fly safe.
musgrattio
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Milena Rage
The Aftermath
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Posted - 2007.07.28 04:55:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Johnny ReeRee Edited by: Johnny ReeRee on 27/07/2007 05:09:22
Originally by: Achaiah Also, if your alliance accepts that Joshua Foiritain mark your alliance's space as BoB space in that map of his, you are a pet.
You mean like how the goonies used to send sad little notes to Joshua begging him to mark goonie space as RA space, because they didn't want the attention? (This was after getting crushed utterly in Syndicate.)
RA let you guys use a plex yet?
Seeing goonies and IAC people going on about pets over and over and over again pretty much is an automatic winner for the "Best inadvertent self-reference" category for the Interwebs awards. Just great stuff.
ilu
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Deeviant
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.28 05:47:00 -
[116]
Edited by: Deeviant on 28/07/2007 05:48:51 Edited by: Deeviant on 28/07/2007 05:48:19
Originally by: musgrattio
plethora of ways to grow
Originally by: musgrattio
plethora of ways
Originally by: musgrattio
PLETHORA
Hey, plethora was Word of the Day on May 29, 1999!
Thank you for clearing the whole Fix -- BoB thing up though.
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Fire Hawk
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.28 07:02:00 -
[117]
Edited by: Fire Hawk on 28/07/2007 07:03:23
Every time BoB does a massacre IG, fictional goon posts start to fill the CAOD.
We must think of the CAOD...
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Pociomundo
Gallente World Order The Imperial Order
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Posted - 2007.07.28 09:28:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Savesti Kyrsst
Originally by: Pociomundo
Originally by: BuIIseye A pet in need is a pet indeed
a pet with weed is better
A pet with ******* and all the rest 
a pet who's dressed in leather
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Starfall Hammer
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Posted - 2007.07.28 09:32:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Murina So by your measure because we were the ones getting paid does that make bob our pets?.
No, I am pretty sure everyone still views you as the pets.
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cal nereus
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.28 09:39:00 -
[120]
Its the difference between a hierarchical alliance and a co-operative alliance. The first has one power dominating the others (Athens in the League of Delos or the USSR in the Warsaw Pact). The second has multiple powers helping each other (The Triple Entente before the Great War or an animal kingdom analogy of the bears and the bees sharing the honey). ---
Grismar.net |
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Zhaine
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.28 10:14:00 -
[121]
Originally by: BustyBounty
1 - how much do you pay bob a month?
2 - are you allowed to run any complexes within the space you are renting?
3 - are you allowed to mine and rat in whatever system you like within the borders of the space you are renting?
4 - do bob require you to pay rent during war times when you are already losing ships to defend there space for them?
5 - do bob help you defend in times of need?
genuine questions im just curious
1 - Nothing.
2 - With static complexes going/gone, of course 
3 - Yup, in any of the space in our constellations, which isn't "rented" as we don't pay "rent".
4 - As we don't pay anything anyway, no.
5 - Not really, they're kinda busy. We wouldn't want they're supercaps stealing all our fights tbh!
Hope that answers your questions! - - - - - - - - - -
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Mihailo Great
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.28 10:29:00 -
[122]
Originally by: musgrattio This is my understanding of our relationship with BoB. It is somewhat inherently inaccurate, as I didn't make the actual deal, and it was never posted in its entirety to my understanding. That said, basically FIX gets control of FIX space, but in BoB's name. We own 4 stations in Q, and BoB owns 1. Other than that, they have next to 0 poses in Q, while we basically have some in every system. So the Sov thing is not an issue.
BOB have sovereignty of 8 systems in Querious.
Sucks that a Goon grunt knows more about your sov status than yourself eh?
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.28 10:32:00 -
[123]
 Originally by: Mihailo Great
Originally by: musgrattio This is my understanding of our relationship with BoB. It is somewhat inherently inaccurate, as I didn't make the actual deal, and it was never posted in its entirety to my understanding. That said, basically FIX gets control of FIX space, but in BoB's name. We own 4 stations in Q, and BoB owns 1. Other than that, they have next to 0 poses in Q, while we basically have some in every system. So the Sov thing is not an issue.
BOB have sovereignty of 8 systems in Querious.
Sucks that a Goon grunt knows more about your sov status than yourself eh?
A matter of perspective i think young man. 8 poses isn't alot to most folk y'know
GOONIES = OMNIPOTENCE INCARNATE |

Mihailo Great
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.28 10:44:00 -
[124]
Originally by: fire 59 A matter of perspective i think young man. 8 poses isn't alot to most folk y'know
Whenever we see you in local, we laugh hard on our TS. It's because you're mostly clueless of anything.
Sov in 8 systems does not equal only 1 large pos per sov claiming system, nor does it mean there aren't more POS not claiming sov in the other systems, especially station systems.
You really think BOB trusts FIX enough not to hold them by the leash?
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.28 10:53:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Mihailo Great
Originally by: fire 59 A matter of perspective i think young man. 8 poses isn't alot to most folk y'know
Whenever we see you in local, we laugh hard on our TS. It's because you're mostly clueless of anything.
Sov in 8 systems does not equal only 1 large pos per sov claiming system, nor does it mean there aren't more POS not claiming sov in the other systems, especially station systems.
You really think BOB trusts FIX enough not to hold them by the leash?
Aaww that's so cute, you actually look for me in local . ( emote blows kiss) . You being a goonie talking about leashes is the ultimate irony. The pet of pets, talking about someone else being a pet 
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General Apocalypse
Amarr The Merchant Marines
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Posted - 2007.07.28 10:56:00 -
[126]
The goons and TCF are Red Alliance pets so you fail to deliver 
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.07.28 11:01:00 -
[127]
Originally by: General Apocalypse The goons and TCF are Red Alliance pets so you fail to deliver 
Please explain -=-=-
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Proxay
Gallente Fallen Angel's Blade.
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Posted - 2007.07.28 11:12:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Mihailo Great
Whenever we see you in local, we laugh hard on our TS. It's because you're mostly clueless of anything.
Forgive me for nit-picking, but shouldn't you be calling primaries/secondaries or maybe yet, even better, discussing strategies, not making a lot of stupid, random, unnecessary noise?
Fallen Angel's Recruitment |

Zeoliter
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.28 11:13:00 -
[129]
2-6-0
2 2 6 6 0 0
2-6-0
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Mihailo Great
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.28 11:13:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Proxay Forgive me for nit-picking, but shouldn't you be calling primaries/secondaries or maybe yet, even better, discussing strategies, not making a lot of stupid, random, unnecessary noise?
No, that's the dumbest thing I'v ever heard.
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Zhaine
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.28 12:05:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Zeoliter 2-6-0
2 2 6 6 0 0
2-6-0
Say wha? - - - - - - - - - -
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Murina
Gallente The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.28 12:45:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Starfall Hammer
Originally by: Murina So by your measure because we were the ones getting paid does that make bob our pets?.
No, I am pretty sure everyone still views you as the pets.
Cool at a rate of 2 outposts every time we kick sombodys ass out of 0.0 collar me and call me bowser.
Perhaps after you pay goon your $10 to join them and post with your corp/alliance showing you should re-evaluate how you define fets lol. how you define pets
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slip66
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.28 13:06:00 -
[133]
Edited by: slip66 on 28/07/2007 13:08:20
Originally by: Death Priest Edited by: Death Priest on 27/07/2007 01:38:04
Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate
Originally by: Felxia Is this true. Well from a security point of view I understand but I guess it's what you pay for paying rent in bobs space.
Yep.
To be part of BOBs fantastic coalition, you not only have to pay a high rent for horrible pieces of space, they also decide who gets into your alliance and who doesn't.
If this is True then SOMEONE has a Titanic Ego and E-Peen that must be constantly "Petted" Anyone or any Alliance that allows this much control of a rented space might as well quit the game. No Flames intended but this sounds rediculous TBH 
It sounds ridiculous because thats what you want to hear :)
Would you allow space full of isk farmers ? Nor would it make sense to let in a corp that was known to associate with hostile alliances.
Open them eyes up Herbs, not everything is exactly what you hear... ;)
I'm sure this is true for each side of this fight aswell.
Originally by: StOrM ViPeR Theres a skill called surgical strike in game I've learned that it actually stands for Band of Brothers |

Proxay
Gallente Fallen Angel's Blade.
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Posted - 2007.07.28 13:38:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Zhaine
Originally by: Zeoliter 2-6-0
2 2 6 6 0 0
2-6-0
Say wha?
Doomsday kills by shrike yesterday.
Fallen Angel's Recruitment |

Dagam
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.28 13:57:00 -
[135]
Edited by: Dagam on 28/07/2007 14:04:46
Originally by: Murina
Cool at a rate of 2 outposts every time we kick sombodys ass out of 0.0 collar me and call me bowser.
Perhaps after you pay goon your $10 to join them and post with your corp/alliance showing you should re-evaluate how you define fets lol. how you define pets
Well 10 bux is to Lowtax, it lets you post on his forums and is one of the requirements for joining Goonfleet. But there's alot more to SA membership than joining Goonfleet and more to the Goonswarm alliance than Goonfleet so vOv. What does it mean to be a BoB pet? Forget rent, building an outpost for them, not disagreeing with them on the forums, or fighting for them. It means they take credit for your accomplishments when you're doing well and when you have no more use to them/doing badly you're blamed and made their scapegoat. They're using you to make themselves, their precious killboards and e-reps, look better. You might think you won't end up like Xelas or The Horde, but besides these former pets they turned on how many tenants from before the ASCN/BOB war do you see around?
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Murina
Gallente The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.28 14:25:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Dagam Edited by: Dagam on 28/07/2007 13:59:36
Originally by: Murina
Cool at a rate of 2 outposts every time we kick sombodys ass out of 0.0 collar me and call me bowser.
Perhaps after you pay goon your $10 to join them and post with your corp/alliance showing you should re-evaluate how you define fets lol. how you define pets
Well 10 bux is to Lowtax, it lets you post on his forums and is one of the requirements for joining Goonfleet. But there's alot more to SA membership than joining Goonfleet and more to the Goonswarm alliance than Goonfleet so vOv. What does it mean to be a BoB pet? Forget rent, building an outpost for them, not disagreeing with them on the forums, or fighting for them. It means they take credit for your accomplishments when you're doing well and when you have no more use to them/doing badly you're blamed and made their scapegoat. They're using you to make themselves, their killboards and e-reps, look better. You might think you won't end up like Xelas or The Horde, but besides these former pets they turned on how many tenants since the ASCN/BOB war do you see around?
It seems to me that most goons say at first that we have no acomplishments when talking about battles fought then when its convieniant that BOB are stealing these non existant acomplishments.
So witch is it? or as myself and others have noticed you tend to pitch whatever is siutable depending on what ever the goon alt has started the thread about and ignore the totaly contradictory statments you make?.
I will never join BOB or be part of a corp/alliance who pays anybody to live in 0.0 space. But fine you say i do not know the complexities of the RA/goon membership and your right i do not but niether do you know about the details of how alliances like mine operate.
We get paid for any service we do for BOB or any other alliance. We pay, build or fight for nobody who does not pay us for it so by the goon measurement of how a pet is defined we are not even close. And its not like RA/goon does not have their own allies (or pets if you prefer) but i suppose you call each other friends or buddys or other non offensive names hey?.
The whole PET issue is ra/goon and allies attempt to stop ppl from joining or allying with BOB because you use blob tactics and cannot win any other way so the more ppl who join BOB or ally with them the less advantage in numbers you have its that simple.
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KIATolon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.28 14:34:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Murina Cool at a rate of 2 outposts every time we kick sombodys ass out of 0.0 collar me and call me bowser.
Perhaps after you pay goon your $10 to join them and post with your corp/alliance showing you should re-evaluate how you define fets lol. how you define pets
I am going to destroy your alliance. You heard it here first.
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Murina
Gallente The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.28 14:46:00 -
[138]
Originally by: KIATolon
Originally by: Murina Cool at a rate of 2 outposts every time we kick sombodys ass out of 0.0 collar me and call me bowser.
Perhaps after you pay goon your $10 to join them and post with your corp/alliance showing you should re-evaluate how you define fets lol. how you define pets
I am going to destroy your alliance. You heard it here first.
But we were having so much fun with ppl we actualy respect like razor and buddies we realy do not wanna see the neighbourhood go down hill with the likes of you and your low lifes coming up to branch.
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KIATolon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.28 14:47:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Murina
Originally by: KIATolon
Originally by: Murina Cool at a rate of 2 outposts every time we kick sombodys ass out of 0.0 collar me and call me bowser.
Perhaps after you pay goon your $10 to join them and post with your corp/alliance showing you should re-evaluate how you define fets lol. how you define pets
I am going to destroy your alliance. You heard it here first.
But we were having so much fun with ppl we actualy respect like razor and buddies we realy do not wanna see the neighbourhood go down hill with the likes of you and your low lifes coming up to branch.
Well say goodbye to your fun. I'm going to crush your poxy alliance when I'm done running omnipotence itself back to their home systems.
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Murina
Gallente The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.28 14:52:00 -
[140]
Originally by: KIATolon
Well say goodbye to your fun. I'm going to crush your poxy alliance when I'm done running omnipotence itself back to their home systems.
Whew and i though it would actualy happen this side of never lol.
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KIATolon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.28 14:53:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Murina
Originally by: KIATolon
Well say goodbye to your fun. I'm going to crush your poxy alliance when I'm done running omnipotence itself back to their home systems.
Whew and i though it would actualy happen this side of never lol.
0
"lol"
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dastommy79
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.28 15:27:00 -
[142]
Originally by: Pociomundo
Originally by: Savesti Kyrsst
Originally by: Pociomundo
Originally by: BuIIseye A pet in need is a pet indeed
a pet with weed is better
A pet with ******* and all the rest 
a pet who's dressed in leather
a pet who'll tease is better
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Emrod
Legion Du Lys GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.28 15:58:00 -
[143]
Pets or not, the only thing matter is destroy all Bob and friend until they finish their eve-life in Empire or they quit the game forever.
Who are the pets or not? Tbh I dont ******* care.
The universal law in Eve anyways is if you are red or neutral in the overview... YOU MUST DIE!
end of topic.
I sell some logoff t2 module,improved forum flamming tachyon beam and Bob Lag generator faction item, contact me ingame for more info :P |

Emrod
Legion Du Lys GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.28 16:06:00 -
[144]
Originally by: General Apocalypse The goons and TCF are Red Alliance pets so you fail to deliver 
Who are you?
I sell some logoff t2 module,improved forum flamming tachyon beam and Bob Lag generator faction item, contact me ingame for more info :P |

James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.07.28 16:41:00 -
[145]
So, hypothetically, if someone has a policy (like, we vet all your members) and people accept it, does that mean they are a) Getting sufficient value from the deal that this is acceptable b) being fools for suffering an 'unfair' condition.
*shrug*
There's enough fools in EVE I suppose, but I can't help but feel that vetting member corps is a pretty good idea. 'specially when you have intel that the other guy may not.
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Alias11
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.28 16:46:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Murina
Originally by: KIATolon
Well say goodbye to your fun. I'm going to crush your poxy alliance when I'm done running omnipotence itself back to their home systems.
Whew and i though it would actualy happen this side of never lol.
We've killed better than you before and we'll kill better than you again
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.28 17:01:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Alias11
Originally by: Murina
Originally by: KIATolon
Well say goodbye to your fun. I'm going to crush your poxy alliance when I'm done running omnipotence itself back to their home systems.
Whew and i though it would actualy happen this side of never lol.
We've killed better than you before and we'll kill better than you again
Erm actualy you hav'nt realy killed anybody others did it for you and you claimed the forum boasting rights for at best making up the numbers.
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KIATolon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.28 17:07:00 -
[148]
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
Originally by: Alias11
Originally by: Murina
Originally by: KIATolon
Well say goodbye to your fun. I'm going to crush your poxy alliance when I'm done running omnipotence itself back to their home systems.
Whew and i though it would actualy happen this side of never lol.
We've killed better than you before and we'll kill better than you again
Erm actualy you hav'nt realy killed anybody others did it for you and you claimed the forum boasting rights for at best making up the numbers.
I hope 12xspeed and gunny are impressed with the trouble you're getting your alliance in right now.
A lack of knowledge is never a good starting point. A lack of knowledge whilst smacking the most powerful corp in eve because you think they're still tech1noobslol is really going to land you in hot water.
When I'm done with what I'm doing (as I said before) I'm going to be looking for targets, and you guys have done a good job of ensuring you're it.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.28 17:20:00 -
[149]
Originally by: KIATolon
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
Originally by: Alias11
Originally by: Murina
Originally by: KIATolon
Well say goodbye to your fun. I'm going to crush your poxy alliance when I'm done running omnipotence itself back to their home systems.
Whew and i though it would actualy happen this side of never lol.
We've killed better than you before and we'll kill better than you again
Erm actualy you hav'nt realy killed anybody others did it for you and you claimed the forum boasting rights for at best making up the numbers.
I hope 12xspeed and gunny are impressed with the trouble you're getting your alliance in right now.
A lack of knowledge is never a good starting point. A lack of knowledge whilst smacking the most powerful corp in eve because you think they're still tech1noobslol is really going to land you in hot water.
When I'm done with what I'm doing (as I said before) I'm going to be looking for targets, and you guys have done a good job of ensuring you're it.
And for sombody who makes derogatory remarks about a lack of knowledge you should realy check who is leading FATAL before making claims about gunny or 12.
And by all means bring it were a pvp alliance so the more fighting the better although i realy feel a distaste at having to fight lag swarm after so many enjoyable fights against razor and their buddies.
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Alias11
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.28 17:26:00 -
[150]
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
Originally by: Alias11
Originally by: Murina
Originally by: KIATolon
Well say goodbye to your fun. I'm going to crush your poxy alliance when I'm done running omnipotence itself back to their home systems.
Whew and i though it would actualy happen this side of never lol.
We've killed better than you before and we'll kill better than you again
Erm actualy you hav'nt realy killed anybody others did it for you and you claimed the forum boasting rights for at best making up the numbers.
I don't think we needed any help killing GONAD
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KIATolon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.28 17:32:00 -
[151]
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean And for sombody who makes derogatory remarks about a lack of knowledge you should realy check who is leading FATAL before making claims about gunny or 12.
And by all means bring it were a pvp alliance so the more fighting the better although i realy feel a distaste at having to fight lag swarm after so many enjoyable fights against razor and their buddies.
I never said gunny or 12xSpeed were leading fatal, however I know they're VERY wise gentleman, and from MY experience they would not enjoy you making claims I am positive your corp would not be willing to back up.
if by "pvp alliance" you mean you sell out and run to the protection of others asap, then yeah, you're right.
If by "pvp alliance" you mean you are willing to fight, financially, territorially and on the battlefield, then I disagree. Fatal want an easy ride as their selling out proved.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.28 18:01:00 -
[152]
Originally by: KIATolon
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean And for sombody who makes derogatory remarks about a lack of knowledge you should realy check who is leading FATAL before making claims about gunny or 12.
And by all means bring it were a pvp alliance so the more fighting the better although i realy feel a distaste at having to fight lag swarm after so many enjoyable fights against razor and their buddies.
I never said gunny or 12xSpeed were leading fatal, however I know they're VERY wise gentleman, and from MY experience they would not enjoy you making claims I am positive your corp would not be willing to back up.
if by "pvp alliance" you mean you sell out and run to the protection of others asap, then yeah, you're right.
If by "pvp alliance" you mean you are willing to fight, financially, territorially and on the battlefield, then I disagree. Fatal want an easy ride as their selling out proved.
Considering gunny was leading FATAL when we "sold out" as you say it must have been a wise decesion cos he made it and as i see you say he is a wise man. (You should realy think about or at least read what you've already posted LOL and a especialy considerng your lack of knowledge comments).
And your comments about running away asap when we held ym- for over 2 weeks against a coalition of 30-40 times our number show how ignorant you are.
We were reduced pretty much to ftr drone bombing in shuttles when the offer came in and part of the deal was we did not come back for 3 months so theres the reason we were in fountain for that amount of time. And after the time was up the drone area was virtualy worthless due to ore prices so we hired out to BOB and went to branch with MC and were given the 2 stations we wanted for fighting up there.
Thats the true history buddy like it or not try to spin it or not its up to you but i suggest you check the facts before you try to respin it.
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KIATolon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.28 18:10:00 -
[153]
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
Originally by: KIATolon
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean And for sombody who makes derogatory remarks about a lack of knowledge you should realy check who is leading FATAL before making claims about gunny or 12.
And by all means bring it were a pvp alliance so the more fighting the better although i realy feel a distaste at having to fight lag swarm after so many enjoyable fights against razor and their buddies.
I never said gunny or 12xSpeed were leading fatal, however I know they're VERY wise gentleman, and from MY experience they would not enjoy you making claims I am positive your corp would not be willing to back up.
if by "pvp alliance" you mean you sell out and run to the protection of others asap, then yeah, you're right.
If by "pvp alliance" you mean you are willing to fight, financially, territorially and on the battlefield, then I disagree. Fatal want an easy ride as their selling out proved.
Considering gunny was leading FATAL when we "sold out" as you say it must have been a wise decesion cos he made it and as i see you say he is a wise man. (You should realy think about or at least read what you've already posted LOL and a especialy considerng your lack of knowledge comments).
And your comments about running away asap when we held ym- for over 2 weeks against a coalition of 30-40 times our number show how ignorant you are.
We were reduced pretty much to ftr drone bombing in shuttles when the offer came in and part of the deal was we did not come back for 3 months so theres the reason we were in fountain for that amount of time. And after the time was up the drone area was virtualy worthless due to ore prices so we hired out to BOB and went to branch with MC and were given the 2 stations we wanted for fighting up there.
Thats the true history buddy like it or not try to spin it or not its up to you but i suggest you check the facts before you try to respin it.
TWO WEEKS
YOU HELD THAT SYSTEM FOR A WHOLE TWO WEEKS
I've taken dumps that lasted longer than your space occupancy.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.28 18:20:00 -
[154]
Originally by: KIATolon
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
Originally by: KIATolon
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean And for sombody who makes derogatory remarks about a lack of knowledge you should realy check who is leading FATAL before making claims about gunny or 12.
And by all means bring it were a pvp alliance so the more fighting the better although i realy feel a distaste at having to fight lag swarm after so many enjoyable fights against razor and their buddies.
I never said gunny or 12xSpeed were leading fatal, however I know they're VERY wise gentleman, and from MY experience they would not enjoy you making claims I am positive your corp would not be willing to back up.
if by "pvp alliance" you mean you sell out and run to the protection of others asap, then yeah, you're right.
If by "pvp alliance" you mean you are willing to fight, financially, territorially and on the battlefield, then I disagree. Fatal want an easy ride as their selling out proved.
Considering gunny was leading FATAL when we "sold out" as you say it must have been a wise decesion cos he made it and as i see you say he is a wise man. (You should realy think about or at least read what you've already posted LOL and a especialy considerng your lack of knowledge comments).
And your comments about running away asap when we held ym- for over 2 weeks against a coalition of 30-40 times our number show how ignorant you are.
We were reduced pretty much to ftr drone bombing in shuttles when the offer came in and part of the deal was we did not come back for 3 months so theres the reason we were in fountain for that amount of time. And after the time was up the drone area was virtualy worthless due to ore prices so we hired out to BOB and went to branch with MC and were given the 2 stations we wanted for fighting up there.
Thats the true history buddy like it or not try to spin it or not its up to you but i suggest you check the facts before you try to respin it.
TWO WEEKS
YOU HELD THAT SYSTEM FOR A WHOLE TWO WEEKS
I've taken dumps that lasted longer than your space occupancy.
We had the system for months you moron (you realy only read what suits you and ignore the facts don't you you clown) i said the war lasted over 2 weeks and a 80 man alliance with 1 dread against a entire region of alliances numbering 40-1 in their favor with over 30 dreads lasting 2 and a half weeks i agree is somthing that a amteur like you would need to disrespect as the blob metality is your only tactic.
Out for a pint now later nooblet.
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Evil Thug
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.07.28 18:23:00 -
[155]
Edited by: Evil Thug on 28/07/2007 18:23:04
Originally by: KIATolon
TWO WEEKS
YOU HELD THAT SYSTEM FOR A WHOLE TWO WEEKS
I've taken dumps that lasted longer than your space occupancy.
I`m pretty shamed regarding that fact. FATAL leaders are old CA core. An alliance, where all my friends loved to be. You left that system after 2 weeks Disgrace. When there were SA + ATUK vs Ruteam (2k vs 300) we held cache till n00b script0r beg for nap in m53 local. Your attitude is real joke. Stop pretending that you are cool, because you are not. Suck bob tit, till we come to you in fountain. Then - you`ll suck our ****. Sorry, we don`t have **** to suck 
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Deeviant
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.28 18:27:00 -
[156]
Edited by: Deeviant on 28/07/2007 18:28:36
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
Out for a pint now later nooblet.
Your going to have to wipe the BoB Breast Milk Mustache off your face before you can say anything like that with even a ounce of credibility.
edit: beaten by the thug
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Alias11
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.28 18:32:00 -
[157]
I'm gonna step out for a bit at least because tolon and et are way better at this than me
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munchy
Alcatraz Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.28 19:28:00 -
[158]
anyone claiming that the goons "hid" behind RA are stupid, when goons allied with RA, ra was at war with about 5 alliances, and was down to 1 station.
personally, if i was hiding, i wouldnt try to hide behind an alliance in that situation. ---
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Iasius
Warp Angels Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2007.07.28 22:31:00 -
[159]
I am a TCF pet. All i got was some speedos with holes in, an Electrolux food blender and some snails.
The FTZ works very well for my corp. Pay my bills and its up to my lot to make something happen. Outbreak are running us around but its good training for my nubs.
Warp Angels Recruitment Banditry eve-o Thread
. Warp Angels - Acorns To Trees. Now Recruiting. |

Torshin
Prophets Of a Damned Universe
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Posted - 2007.07.29 02:07:00 -
[160]
Originally by: Alias11
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
Originally by: Alias11
Originally by: Murina
Originally by: KIATolon
Well say goodbye to your fun. I'm going to crush your poxy alliance when I'm done running omnipotence itself back to their home systems.
Whew and i though it would actualy happen this side of never lol.
We've killed better than you before and we'll kill better than you again
Erm actualy you hav'nt realy killed anybody others did it for you and you claimed the forum boasting rights for at best making up the numbers.
I don't think we needed any help killing GONAD
lol you had plenty of help -------------------------------------------
Backdoor Bandit - Unofficial leader of the new 'Post with your main or STFU' campaign. I'm Shinra and I'm the champion of Eve. |
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KIATolon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.29 02:18:00 -
[161]
Originally by: Torshin lol you had plenty of help
but we didn't NEED it
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fallen merovigean
KDM Corp Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.07.29 02:27:00 -
[162]
BOB, I will be your pet', ummmm, your pet wolverine, yea, and um I'll have like uber sharp claws, and seduce all your BOB women into pet'ing my super hard sticky things untill i calm down, and then the Goon-e-nators will try and seduce me,but I'll shoot em with super hard quails of doom, right in there face. Im pretty shure it will hurt. Let me be your pet, please, please, please (I cant afford rent but as a wolverine im great with women) 
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Cringeley
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.29 02:40:00 -
[163]
Originally by: fallen merovigean BOB, I will be your pet', ummmm, your pet wolverine, yea, and um I'll have like uber sharp claws, and seduce all your BOB women into pet'ing my super hard sticky things untill i calm down, and then the Goon-e-nators will try and seduce me,but I'll shoot em with super hard quails of doom, right in there face. Im pretty shure it will hurt. Let me be your pet, please, please, please (I cant afford rent but as a wolverine im great with women) 
Did I read you right you want to yiff bob and fight us with your quills?
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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.07.29 02:47:00 -
[164]
Originally by: KIATolon
Originally by: Murina
Originally by: KIATolon
Originally by: Murina Cool at a rate of 2 outposts every time we kick sombodys ass out of 0.0 collar me and call me bowser.
Perhaps after you pay goon your $10 to join them and post with your corp/alliance showing you should re-evaluate how you define fets lol. how you define pets
I am going to destroy your alliance. You heard it here first.
But we were having so much fun with ppl we actualy respect like razor and buddies we realy do not wanna see the neighbourhood go down hill with the likes of you and your low lifes coming up to branch.
Well say goodbye to your fun. I'm going to crush your poxy alliance when I'm done running omnipotence itself back to their home systems.
Tolon, for someone who hates BoB so much, do you realise that you sound EXACTLY like them with statements such as this one?
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Torshin
Prophets Of a Damned Universe
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Posted - 2007.07.29 03:58:00 -
[165]
Originally by: KIATolon
Originally by: Torshin lol you had plenty of help
but we didn't NEED it
lol oh so true -------------------------------------------
Backdoor Bandit - Unofficial leader of the new 'Post with your main or STFU' campaign. I'm Shinra and I'm the champion of Eve. |

Raeff
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.29 04:12:00 -
[166]
Originally by: munchy anyone claiming that the goons "hid" behind RA are stupid, when goons allied with RA, ra was at war with about 5 alliances, and was down to 1 station.
personally, if i was hiding, i wouldnt try to hide behind an alliance in that situation.
1 for 2 .. RA had already retaken 4-6 stations and were pushing back hard before goons ever joined them however
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KIATolon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.29 05:04:00 -
[167]
Originally by: Deschenus Maximus
Originally by: KIATolon
Originally by: Murina
Originally by: KIATolon
Originally by: Murina Cool at a rate of 2 outposts every time we kick sombodys ass out of 0.0 collar me and call me bowser.
Perhaps after you pay goon your $10 to join them and post with your corp/alliance showing you should re-evaluate how you define fets lol. how you define pets
I am going to destroy your alliance. You heard it here first.
But we were having so much fun with ppl we actualy respect like razor and buddies we realy do not wanna see the neighbourhood go down hill with the likes of you and your low lifes coming up to branch.
Well say goodbye to your fun. I'm going to crush your poxy alliance when I'm done running omnipotence itself back to their home systems.
Tolon, for someone who hates BoB so much, do you realise that you sound EXACTLY like them with statements such as this one?
1) I dont hate bob. 2) If the way I speak bothers you then maybe you shouldn't be on bob's side 3) It was a parody, everyone else got it.
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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.07.29 05:11:00 -
[168]
Originally by: KIATolon
1) I dont hate bob.
K
Originally by: KIATolon 2) If the way I speak bothers you then maybe you shouldn't be on bob's side
Who said it bothered me?
Originally by: KIATolon 3) It was a parody, everyone else got it.
I doubt everyone else got it.
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Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.29 05:45:00 -
[169]
Originally by: Deschenus Maximus
I doubt everyone else got it.
I did.
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Admiral Feelgood
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.29 06:32:00 -
[170]
Originally by: Deschenus Maximus
I doubt everyone else got it.
Well yeah not everyone in Digital Renegades but you guys don't get much of anything.
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Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.29 07:03:00 -
[171]
Originally by: Admiral Feelgood
Originally by: Deschenus Maximus
I doubt everyone else got it.
Well yeah not everyone in Digital Renegades but you guys don't get much of anything.
Especially when it comes to poon BOYA!
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Troy Harlem
Magellanic Itg GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.29 07:30:00 -
[172]
Originally by: fire 59
Originally by: Deeviant Fire 59 is not only the worst poster on Eve-O, but perhaps the entire internet. Her mother would be proud.
Aaww baby, it's okay. I'm sorry if i find it easy to outwit you and make you sad and run to your mommy. It must be tough to have some folks see through the trash and actually say it is such, how dare they. I envisiage you getting upset and sitting with a trembling lip and tears in your eyes.
Just rememebr, the words are only pixels on a screen and can't hurt you baby, or get you in your dreams. Just pull your blanky up and fill your hot water bottle up and you will be fine 
Ahahah this is the best post on eveo. Thank you, fire 59 for making this post (the best post on eveo) becasue it's the best post on eveo (I'm glad you made it)
thank you. fire 59. thanks.
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.29 08:54:00 -
[173]
Originally by: Troy Harlem
Originally by: fire 59
Originally by: Deeviant Fire 59 is not only the worst poster on Eve-O, but perhaps the entire internet. Her mother would be proud.
Aaww baby, it's okay. I'm sorry if i find it easy to outwit you and make you sad and run to your mommy. It must be tough to have some folks see through the trash and actually say it is such, how dare they. I envisiage you getting upset and sitting with a trembling lip and tears in your eyes.
Just rememebr, the words are only pixels on a screen and can't hurt you baby, or get you in your dreams. Just pull your blanky up and fill your hot water bottle up and you will be fine 
Ahahah this is the best post on eveo. Thank you, fire 59 for making this post (the best post on eveo) becasue it's the best post on eveo (I'm glad you made it)
thank you. fire 59. thanks.
Thx sweetheart. I want to thank my family, my co workers and god for making this possible. It took alot of hard work and dedication and most importantly teamwork.
But on a more serious note, bit of a delayed troll there ennit,you're getting slow lad
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Troy Harlem
Magellanic Itg GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.29 09:00:00 -
[174]
I'm not trolling man, that was my favorite post. I read this whole thread and then went back and found it so I could quote it and tell you how much I loved it. It was the best post.
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Zhaine
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.29 09:30:00 -
[175]
Yes, KIATolon isn't being serious. . . That could be the funniest thing I've heard on CAOD all week.
Man there are some horrifically sad posts in here, the number of people that want to actually drive their enemies out of the game is incredible.
Get. A. Grip. - - - - - - - - - -
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Cringeley
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.29 10:02:00 -
[176]
Edited by: Cringeley on 29/07/2007 10:03:16
Originally by: Zhaine Yes, KIATolon isn't being serious. . . That could be the funniest thing I've heard on CAOD all week.
Man there are some horrifically sad posts in here, the number of people that want to actually drive their enemies out of the game is incredible.
Get. A. Grip.
Are Coreli Corporation ever going to be allowed to build up in any way in 0.0 space again? No.
For the moment, we are leaving wherever the hell Coreli Corporation hangs out, Delve or some ****, but we will continue to monitor the Coreli Corporation and should we feel that they have done anything of note in the game, we will destroy it.
I am sure that some of those remaining Coreli Corporation members will be rejoicing at having survived this long against us but I can only ask you were you have been recently.
Keep watching Coreli Corporation members, because we will.
We will be back, with gangs, with fleets, with RSF.
We command your game now. As long as you remain in Coreli Corporation, we make you play our way and nothing you say will really convince yourself that this isn't true.
All Too Easy.
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Alias11
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.29 10:04:00 -
[177]
Originally by: Zhaine Yes, KIATolon isn't being serious. . . That could be the funniest thing I've heard on CAOD all week.
Man there are some horrifically sad posts in here, the number of people that want to actually drive their enemies out of the game is incredible.
Get. A. Grip.
You'll have to excuse me if I quote this one for its nougaty core of fluffy irony.
Also if tolon is being serious then I think we've solved nearly every dog overcrowding problem, as well as any non-pregnant sister problems we might have had
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Cringeley
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.29 10:13:00 -
[178]
Originally by: Alias11 Edited by: Alias11 on 29/07/2007 10:05:12 You just have that damn thing in your clipboard at all times, don't you.
For the moment, I am leaving this thread, but I will continue to monitor the Alias11 and should I feel that he has done anything of note in the forums I will destroy it.
All Too Easy.
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Teron D'Amun
The Burning Orphans Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.07.29 11:08:00 -
[179]
Goons provide useful quotes here and in other threads to use some months down the road if things don't go well for them. Or I just provided a quote myself to be used in the future.
the suspense is almost killing me tbqh.
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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.07.29 14:38:00 -
[180]
Originally by: Admiral Feelgood
Originally by: Deschenus Maximus
I doubt everyone else got it.
Well yeah not everyone in Digital Renegades but you guys don't get much of anything.
Tbh, how many members of Digital Renegades do you know?
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Etien Aldragoran
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.29 18:00:00 -
[181]
Originally by: Deschenus Maximus
Originally by: Admiral Feelgood
Originally by: Deschenus Maximus
I doubt everyone else got it.
Well yeah not everyone in Digital Renegades but you guys don't get much of anything.
Tbh, how many members of Digital Renegades do you know?
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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.07.29 18:27:00 -
[182]
Originally by: Etien Aldragoran
2 morons in Vagabonds that ran away from a ratting raven. Thats enough for me.
So 2 people is enough to plaster a 300+ man alliance with generalisations?
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Etien Aldragoran
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.29 18:34:00 -
[183]
Originally by: Deschenus Maximus
Originally by: Etien Aldragoran
2 morons in Vagabonds that ran away from a ratting raven. Thats enough for me.
So 2 people is enough to plaster a 300+ man alliance with generalisations?
First impressions and all that. Also, thats all the DR people I know, personally, I'm pretty sure thats not all Goonfleet as a whole knows, and concensus is that they're all as "special" as those two. Considering your posting, it doesn't seem like much of a stretch either. ------------------------------------------------------ I am not a nice person, never have, never will be, its my burden to deal with the consequences of my actions. |

Deschenus Maximus
Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.07.29 18:37:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Etien Aldragoran
Originally by: Deschenus Maximus
Originally by: Etien Aldragoran
2 morons in Vagabonds that ran away from a ratting raven. Thats enough for me.
So 2 people is enough to plaster a 300+ man alliance with generalisations?
First impressions and all that. Also, thats all the DR people I know, personally, I'm pretty sure thats not all Goonfleet as a whole knows, and concensus is that they're all as "special" as those two. Considering your posting, it doesn't seem like much of a stretch either.
Please do elaborate as to how "special" my posting is.
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Etien Aldragoran
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.29 18:43:00 -
[185]
Back of the shortbus special. I'm sure you can figure it out without having it spelled out for you, although, maybe not. No point in elaborating further though, it would just get moderated. ------------------------------------------------------ I am not a nice person, never have, never will be, its my burden to deal with the consequences of my actions. |

Deschenus Maximus
Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.07.29 18:46:00 -
[186]
Edited by: Deschenus Maximus on 29/07/2007 18:49:36 Edited by: Deschenus Maximus on 29/07/2007 18:49:13
Originally by: Etien Aldragoran Back of the shortbus special. I'm sure you can figure it out without having it spelled out for you, although, maybe not. No point in elaborating further though, it would just get moderated.
Translation: I really have no clue who you are, or who your alliance is, and though I say you are a ******, I really have nothing to back this claim up with, so I will make up some excuse as to "elaboration would simply get modded".
Nice try.
Originally by: Etien Aldragoran
Edit: Actually, I think I've seen you hiding cloaked in the Konora pipe a couple of times too, hows that go for you, entertaining to watch space taxi's run by all day long without engaging?
More proof that you're talking out of your ass, as I have no clue where the **** Konora is.
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Etien Aldragoran
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.29 18:54:00 -
[187]
Originally by: Deschenus Maximus
Originally by: Etien Aldragoran Back of the shortbus special. I'm sure you can figure it out without having it spelled out for you, although, maybe not. No point in elaborating further though, it would just get moderated.
Translation: I really have no clue who you are, or who your alliance is, and though I say you are a ******, I really have nothing to back this claim up with, so I will make up some excuse as to "elaboration would simply get modded".
Nice try.
More like, you're a mental incompetent, and given the other DR morons I've run into it seems like you've gravitated to your peers in the world of the feeble minded. Ergo, making an assumption, based off first impressions, which is more than enough for me, your whole alliance is composed of the braindead, and vegetables barely able to roll their wheelchair over to the computer and type out some idiotic dribble on forums, while saliva drools down their chin and they **** themselves, because they're too goddamned stupid to ask for help going to the bathroom.
Of course the preceding paragraph has a shelflife of about 3 minutes because somebody will come along and deem it trolling and flaming, instead of the solicited opinion it actually was. ------------------------------------------------------ I am not a nice person, never have, never will be, its my burden to deal with the consequences of my actions. |

Deschenus Maximus
Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.07.29 18:57:00 -
[188]
Originally by: Etien Aldragoran
More like, you're a mental incompetent, and given the other DR morons I've run into it seems like you've gravitated to your peers in the world of the feeble minded. Ergo, making an assumption, based off first impressions, which is more than enough for me, your whole alliance is composed of the braindead, and vegetables barely able to roll their wheelchair over to the computer and type out some idiotic dribble on forums, while saliva drools down their chin and they **** themselves, because they're too goddamned stupid to ask for help going to the bathroom.
So... do you ACTUALLY believe that? Yes or no?
Originally by: Etien Aldragoran Of course the preceding paragraph has a shelflife of about 3 minutes because somebody will come along and deem it trolling and flaming, instead of the solicited opinion it actually was.
Mods, please don't delete this, as it was indeed solicited.
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Etien Aldragoran
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.29 18:59:00 -
[189]
Konora is the closest empire system to northern goonspace. I assumed you'd know where it was, if it was your dumb ass camping the empire pipe, hiding like a little girl waiting for an AFK hauler or something to come through there so you could get your jollies off another "battle kill." ------------------------------------------------------ I am not a nice person, never have, never will be, its my burden to deal with the consequences of my actions. |

Deschenus Maximus
Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.07.29 19:06:00 -
[190]
Edited by: Deschenus Maximus on 29/07/2007 19:09:48
Originally by: Etien Aldragoran Konora is the closest empire system to northern goonspace. I assumed you'd know where it was, if it was your dumb ass camping the empire pipe, hiding like a little girl waiting for an AFK hauler or something to come through there so you could get your jollies off another "battle kill."
So, do you have any proofs of this claim? Like fraps or something?
Originally by: Etien Aldragoran Edit: Yes, it is my "studied" opinion, based off the fact that DR pretty much gets laughed at in intel channels when they come through, waving their*****s around for 2 minutes before running off looking for another easy gank. The morons running away from a Raven was particularly hilarious from my point of view.
Soo... we get laughed at, and yet you do nothing to kill us when we "come in to wave our*****s around"?
And goons don't look for easy ganks?
Originally by: Etien Aldragoran Your posting is also particularly aweful, more verbal*****waving and BoBaganda wrapped up in a steaming pile of barely literate fecal rantings.
Please post examples of this.
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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.07.29 21:02:00 -
[191]
So, Mr Aldragoran... Am I to surmise from your lack of reply that you really have no proof, and were talking out of your ass this whole time? 'Cause it sure seems like it (and I know that it is indeed fact).
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Etien Aldragoran
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.29 22:52:00 -
[192]
Edited by: Etien Aldragoran on 29/07/2007 22:53:07
Originally by: Deschenus Maximus So, Mr Aldragoran... Am I to surmise from your lack of reply that you really have no proof, and were talking out of your ass this whole time? 'Cause it sure seems like it (and I know that it is indeed fact).
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know you were hanging so much on my every word that my going to the grocery store, and fixing myself some dinner was going to cause an apoplectic breakdown for you. The fact that you find an argument over on a forum, after no replies for a whole 2 hours is proof enough that your posting is dog****.
As for the "proof" on you camping the pipe to empire, I said I thought it was you, and if it was you. Here I'll quote the relevant parts:
Quote: Actually, I think I've seen you hiding cloaked in the Konora pipe
Quote: I assumed you'd know where it was, if it was your dumb ass camping the empire pipe,
I even bolded the important words for you. Apparently however it was just some other ****** with a similar name, quite possibly from the same corp, although since it wasn't that big a deal my memory is somewhat hazy on that, so shockingly I COULD be wrong. That might have been a problem if I'd said "you were here, on X day, in X system" instead of "Wasn't it you camping the pipe to empire from goonspace, cowering from my mighty executioner space taxi." Again your posting comprehension has failed you, reinforcing my views of how worthless your corp must be.
As to the not killing you when you come around*****waving, have you ever seen the MASH episode about 5 O'clock Charlie? Yeah DR is about the same level of annoyance as he was, something to laugh at daily, while going about your business, because wasting time dealing with the matter is too much of a hassle. Unless you want to be the Frank Burns****got who thinks that the world is falling because some incompetent is disrupting your day for a whole 30 seconds.
But the fact of the matter is, I've tired of the sordid amusement lambasting you has given me, so have a nice day. ------------------------------------------------------ I am not a nice person, never have, never will be, its my burden to deal with the consequences of my actions. |

Deschenus Maximus
Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.07.29 23:10:00 -
[193]
Edited by: Deschenus Maximus on 29/07/2007 23:12:14
Originally by: Etien Aldragoran Edited by: Etien Aldragoran on 29/07/2007 22:53:07
Originally by: Deschenus Maximus So, Mr Aldragoran... Am I to surmise from your lack of reply that you really have no proof, and were talking out of your ass this whole time? 'Cause it sure seems like it (and I know that it is indeed fact).
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know you were hanging so much on my every word that my going to the grocery store, and fixing myself some dinner was going to cause an apoplectic breakdown for you. The fact that you find an argument over on a forum, after no replies for a whole 2 hours is proof enough that your posting is dog****.
How is it dog****? Please explain in comprehensive manner what parts and/or how my vocabulary/syntax is dog****. Or is it something else besides that?
Originally by: Etien Aldragoran As for the "proof" on you camping the pipe to empire, I said I thought it was you, and if it was you. Here I'll quote the relevant parts:
Quote: Actually, I think I've seen you hiding cloaked in the Konora pipe
Quote: I assumed you'd know where it was, if it was your dumb ass camping the empire pipe,
I even bolded the important words for you. Apparently however it was just some other ****** with a similar name, quite possibly from the same corp, although since it wasn't that big a deal my memory is somewhat hazy on that, so shockingly I COULD be wrong. That might have been a problem if I'd said "you were here, on X day, in X system" instead of "Wasn't it you camping the pipe to empire from goonspace, cowering from my mighty executioner space taxi." Again your posting comprehension has failed you, reinforcing my views of how worthless your corp must be.
The lesson here is don't go around accusing people of doing stuff that they aren't.
And frankly, if this is what you base your opinion of a corp on... 
Originally by: Etien Aldragoran As to the not killing you when you come around*****waving, have you ever seen the MASH episode about 5 O'clock Charlie? Yeah DR is about the same level of annoyance as he was, something to laugh at daily, while going about your business, because wasting time dealing with the matter is too much of a hassle. Unless you want to be the Frank Burns****got who thinks that the world is falling because some incompetent is disrupting your day for a whole 30 seconds.
Well, continue ignoring us, an we'll continue having "easy ganks" against you. Win-win, it would seem.
Originally by: Etien Aldragoran But the fact of the matter is, I've tired of the sordid amusement lambasting you has given me, so have a nice day.
Oh, you will soooooooo reply. You can't keep away, don't try to deny it. You can't let me have the last word; no self-respecting forum-***** would. You can't let a measily BoB pet have the last laugh; what kind of universe would we be living in if us poor, mindless slaves were allowed to talk back and have the last word against you, the almighty, all knowing Etien Aldragoran?
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Fearless Ferret
Caldari KDM Corp Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.07.29 23:13:00 -
[194]
Originally by: Martin VanBuren Come on folk, the point isn't that only letting certain people into their space is good policy - it is. We realize this. The point is that many of the BoB pets defend themselves against pet allegations by saying that they are free and independent entities who simply happen to pay rent, whereas the reality is more along the lines of BoB telling them exactly what is and is not allowed and kicking them out should they not meet expectations.
Which is pretty amusing considering we're playing an e-space e-game.
FIX don't pay rent...
Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie
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Commander Solo
Caldari Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.07.30 21:53:00 -
[195]
All Digital Renegades pilots out of this thread please, no exceptions.
It is interesting to note the levels of hypocrisy from both sides in this thread, and that is something I do not care for. We are here to play and enjoy the game, regardless of peopleÆs opinions of us. The slander coming from both sides is also indicative of the sad direction that eve is heading in.
I believe that you do think we are insignificant, so insignificant that a coalition backed invasion of our space was deemed necessary, from three alliances no less. All three of which have been repelled humiliated by DR and RISE pilots this weekend to the extent that their pilots refused to join a gang to save their only foothold in our space. You sent your ôalliesö in and they got spanked by ôpetsö. I will be the first to say that they fought valiantly and I expect them to try again soon, we await their next attempt with baited breath.
Now can we all get back to playing the game instead of playing forum footsie with each other?
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Emeline Cabernet
Amarr KVA Noble Inc. Institute of Cooperative Education
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Posted - 2007.07.30 22:21:00 -
[196]
Originally by: Proxay Edited by: Proxay on 27/07/2007 05:26:10
Originally by: Orangir
Originally by: Proxay
Originally by: Orangir
hurf blurf fixed for reality
How many alliances have been booted from the GBC Mr. Goon?
Xelas and GONAD in the past month alone? Not sure about any before that, I never paid attention to BoB pets until we started removing them.
Xelas and The H orde to my knowledge, and for good reason looking back, it's not like they'll attack a useful and committed ally. You're simply trying to score e-points with your fellow goons for trying to belittle your foe.
You fail, and I can only hope that the enemies you belittle come back to bite you in the arse and destroy your alliance.
H orde is a swear word!?!?!?!
stfu and speak for yourself. us, the horde, were the only ones fighting in fountain at the time. most of the good corps left cus we were told by dice to remove our pos refinerys cus they werent making any isk on the station in satyr.
what happend later would never have happend if it wasnt for dice's greed. not beeing able to dock on the xelas station cus mitch was too important to speak with us didnt make the situation much better.
for a good reason my ass.. idiot
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