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Orangir
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.02 01:17:00 -
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Edited by: Orangir on 02/08/2007 01:17:44 Edited by: Orangir on 02/08/2007 01:17:35
Originally by: Murina Oh gr8 you again lol yes gratz youve taken a system or 2 does that mean when bob pushed you back that they were winning or are you gonna spin it into a tactical withdrawal.
When you get to the point your covering a huge amount of conquered space you will stall and fall prey to the compact blob you create with your success.
Yes i said success if you check my posts ive never actualy claimed they were not just that the mechanics of eve will do to you exactly what it did to bob.
Oh and your trolls are awful in fact the worst and most juvinille ive ever seen but they are considerably better than your lemming alliance.
So is the newest BoB talking point "well you're only taking back lost systems so you're still losing" because that's like saying the Axis was winning until the Allies finally pushed them back across the Rhine, and that's a silly thing to imply.
You see Eve is a lot like WWII because
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Murina
Gallente The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.02 01:24:00 -
[422]
Originally by: Orangir Edited by: Orangir on 02/08/2007 01:17:44 Edited by: Orangir on 02/08/2007 01:17:35
Originally by: Murina Oh gr8 you again lol yes gratz youve taken a system or 2 does that mean when bob pushed you back that they were winning or are you gonna spin it into a tactical withdrawal.
When you get to the point your covering a huge amount of conquered space you will stall and fall prey to the compact blob you create with your success.
Yes i said success if you check my posts ive never actualy claimed they were not just that the mechanics of eve will do to you exactly what it did to bob.
Oh and your trolls are awful in fact the worst and most juvinille ive ever seen but they are considerably better than your lemming alliance.
So is the newest BoB talking point "well you're only taking back lost systems so you're still losing" because that's like saying the Axis was winning until the Allies finally pushed them back across the Rhine, and that's a silly thing to imply.
You see Eve is a lot like WWII because
Nope your winning bud il never claim your not if you are but if you consider that unlees you or bob can find a way to actualy remove players from eve enmasse then the "compact blob" will always be the result of a successful campaign and it will always beat an enemy that has to cover large areas.
That is not a slight against you bob or anybody else its just the way it is.
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Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.02 01:39:00 -
[423]
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
Originally by: CrispyKritters
Originally by: Murina
Realy then you did not just reciently take back the systems BOB pushed you out of???.
We have your system, thanks for those
Actualy invictus has ours it cost em a MS quite a few other capitals buckets full of conventional ships, oh and i love mentioning it yes 22 bil to leave em alone for 3 months.
You better believe Fatal is a fearsome PVP alliance, not just anyone can splinter off and stake a claim in the drone regions!
And then sell that claim and move into space conquered for them!
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.02 01:44:00 -
[424]
Originally by: Martin VanBuren
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
Originally by: CrispyKritters
Originally by: Murina
Realy then you did not just reciently take back the systems BOB pushed you out of???.
We have your system, thanks for those
Actualy invictus has ours it cost em a MS quite a few other capitals buckets full of conventional ships, oh and i love mentioning it yes 22 bil to leave em alone for 3 months.
You better believe Fatal is a fearsome PVP alliance, not just anyone can splinter off and stake a claim in the drone regions!
And then sell that claim and move into space conquered for them!
A+ for effort F- for content.
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Aduna
Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.02 13:14:00 -
[425]
Originally by: Bu Jinkan
Originally by: Aduna something to think about:
if Goons exist for the sole reason of fighting BoB, what would happen to Goons once BoB is no longer around for Goons to fight?
We'll grief them in PotBS.
count me in :)
Originally by: James 315 Goon logistics may have the most efficient manner of griefing BoB that there is:every Goon tower in a BoB system is a punch in BoB's stomach and a middle finger to Dianabolic's crew |
Stinkywrix
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.02 13:18:00 -
[426]
Originally by: Orangir So is the newest BoB talking point "well you're only taking back lost systems so you're still losing" because that's like saying the Axis was winning until the Allies finally pushed them back across the Rhine, and that's a silly thing to imply.
You see Eve is a lot like WWII because
Well in actuality, EVE is a lot like the eastern front in WWII. You see, 9-9 was a lot like Stalingrad, furthermore Your signature was inappropriate, email [email protected] to find out why (don't forget to include a link to it) -Sahwoolo |
DTee
The Huns
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Posted - 2007.08.02 13:52:00 -
[427]
Edited by: DTee on 02/08/2007 13:54:16 T2 prices my good friend are not even close to what they used to be. If you produce inhouse, which probably BoB also do. Your on a pretty level plane.
The advantage still lies with BoB indeed. 100b in rent everymonth can't be bad for the alliance wallet, I'm guessing.I can't imagine goons/ra/tcf are making that much JUST for their alliance let alone themselves. If BoB started handing out equipment to its pilots it could supply them for a long long time.
The question of Morale is indeed a complicated one but let me remind you. You aren't Victorious of your own will, your are victorious when you break the enemies. BoBs will is not broken yet. Molle still sits on his pedestal plotting and planning,i wouldn't underestimate him.
I would check all your roles for rights to anchoring pos's and hanger access. I'm expecting this to get dirtier!
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.08.02 14:10:00 -
[428]
Originally by: DTee Edited by: DTee on 02/08/2007 14:02:50 T2 prices my good friend are not even close to what they used to be. If you produce inhouse, which probably BoB also do. Your on a pretty level plane.
The advantage still lies with BoB indeed. 100b in rent everymonth can't be bad for the alliance wallet, I'm guessing.I can't imagine goons/ra/tcf are making that much JUST for their alliance let alone themselves. If BoB started handing out equipment to its pilots it could supply them for a long long time, WITHOUT any of the troops from the front line needing to RAT or LEAVE the front line. I expect it is quite the opposite for RSF, whow ill at some point loose momentum because of the rate they are loosing ships.
The question of Morale is indeed a complicated one but let me remind you. You aren't Victorious of your own will, your are victorious when you break the enemies. BoBs will is not broken yet. Molle still sits on his pedestal plotting and planning,i wouldn't underestimate him.
I would check all your roles for rights to anchoring pos's and hanger access. I'm expecting this to get dirtier!
IAC and AAA have taken the perfect opportunity to harass Fix and divert MC BUT i doubt that MC were or are stupid enough to fall for something like that. The fact that its non capital help (no dreads). I'm expecting the Dreads are being saved for a combined op with BoB at a later date to kill lots of RSF caps or for the defense of "NOL". There are probably better targets in BoB space other then NOL.
Also BoB had alot of reserves for a war like this, which they expected against ASCN. I can hardly imagine what they have in reserves NOW.Afterall the ASCN war wasn't much of a fight. They've probably got more reserves since then.
DTee, this is not the BoB of last year. A lot bigger, but not nearly as good. I fought in the BoB-ASCN war, and the BoB of today is making mistakes I've never seen them make in the ASCN war.
Part of it is of course that Redswarm has a hard core of PvPers which is far stronger than ASCN ever had, but even then, I see silly mistakes that are not needed.
And about the issue of morale and isk. ASCN didn't lose because of isk, there were hundreds of billions left, there was just noone left willing to use the isk to fight. A singly guy can rat a months worth of fuel for a deathstar POS in 1 day, or considering nsurance, 3 or 4 BS worth. As long as morale is high, losses are irrelevant. And you can judge for yourself whether morale is high in the Redswarm/TCF/Southern Coalition...
------------------------------------------------ Murphy's Golden Rule: Whoever has the gold, makes the rules.
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Marko Zhang
Chargin Mah Lazors
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Posted - 2007.08.02 14:15:00 -
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Originally by: DTee I can hardly imagine what they have in reserves NOW.
I just peed my Space Pants.
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DTee
The Huns
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Posted - 2007.08.02 14:22:00 -
[430]
Edited by: DTee on 02/08/2007 14:22:29 Edited by: DTee on 02/08/2007 14:21:59
Originally by: Marko Zhang
Originally by: DTee I can hardly imagine what they have in reserves NOW.
I just peed my Space Pants.
Funnily enough so did I!
I can understand what you mean about it not being the old BoB.Every player that joins BoB is cultured in to the habits of BoB as an organisation. Such as staying aligned, warping quickly following instructions.The new members ofcourse add to that and certain BoB corps with VERY open recruitment policies is probably the reason for the diluted state of affairs.
I also agree with the mention of Morale, that is something as i mentioned very Complicated. As I am not part of BoB anymore I can't imply that i know what their Morale is like.
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Ivan Milat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.02 14:25:00 -
[431]
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
Originally by: Martin VanBuren
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
Originally by: CrispyKritters
Originally by: Murina
Realy then you did not just reciently take back the systems BOB pushed you out of???.
We have your system, thanks for those
Actualy invictus has ours it cost em a MS quite a few other capitals buckets full of conventional ships, oh and i love mentioning it yes 22 bil to leave em alone for 3 months.
You better believe Fatal is a fearsome PVP alliance, not just anyone can splinter off and stake a claim in the drone regions!
And then sell that claim and move into space conquered for them!
A+ for effort F- for content.
Much like your alliance
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KIATolon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.02 14:55:00 -
[432]
Originally by: DTee Edited by: DTee on 02/08/2007 14:22:29 Edited by: DTee on 02/08/2007 14:21:59
Originally by: Marko Zhang
Originally by: DTee I can hardly imagine what they have in reserves NOW.
I just peed my Space Pants.
Funnily enough so did I!
I can understand what you mean about it not being the old BoB.Every player that joins BoB is cultured in to the habits of BoB as an organisation. Such as staying aligned, warping quickly following instructions.The new members ofcourse add to that and certain BoB corps with VERY open recruitment policies is probably the reason for the diluted state of affairs.
I also agree with the mention of Morale, that is something as i mentioned very Complicated. As I am not part of BoB anymore I can't imply that i know what their Morale is like.
BoB dont have that much ISK anymore, really. The whole "100 billion a day/week/whatever" was misinformation put out to scare the misinformed.
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Dionisius
Gallente LEGI0N SOUL CARTEL
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Posted - 2007.08.02 16:51:00 -
[433]
Originally by: KIATolon
Originally by: DTee Edited by: DTee on 02/08/2007 14:22:29 Edited by: DTee on 02/08/2007 14:21:59
Originally by: Marko Zhang
Originally by: DTee I can hardly imagine what they have in reserves NOW.
I just peed my Space Pants.
Funnily enough so did I!
I can understand what you mean about it not being the old BoB.Every player that joins BoB is cultured in to the habits of BoB as an organisation. Such as staying aligned, warping quickly following instructions.The new members ofcourse add to that and certain BoB corps with VERY open recruitment policies is probably the reason for the diluted state of affairs.
I also agree with the mention of Morale, that is something as i mentioned very Complicated. As I am not part of BoB anymore I can't imply that i know what their Morale is like.
BoB dont have that much ISK anymore, really. The whole "100 billion a day/week/whatever" was misinformation put out to scare the misinformed.
Actually they have quite a bit more.
Not counting cap ships stil repackaged and ready to substitute the ones that end up in a "wrecked" state in space. _______________________
Originally by: Splagada Edited by: Splagada on 21/06/2007 13:51:39 in eve you can break their windows, take over the house, and throw the children in the fire. |
CrispyKritters
Caldari GoonFleet
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Posted - 2007.08.02 17:25:00 -
[434]
Originally by: Dionisius
Actually they have quite a bit more.
Not counting cap ships stil repackaged and ready to substitute the ones that end up in a "wrecked" state in space.
Are you a BoB financial analyst or something?
I hear BoB has 100 trillion isk in reserve just waiting for the right moment to throw at us along with 500 faction fitted ships, 100 dreads, and 200 carriers.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.02 17:39:00 -
[435]
Originally by: Ivan Milat
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
Originally by: Martin VanBuren
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
Originally by: CrispyKritters
Originally by: Murina
Realy then you did not just reciently take back the systems BOB pushed you out of???.
We have your system, thanks for those
Actualy invictus has ours it cost em a MS quite a few other capitals buckets full of conventional ships, oh and i love mentioning it yes 22 bil to leave em alone for 3 months.
You better believe Fatal is a fearsome PVP alliance, not just anyone can splinter off and stake a claim in the drone regions!
And then sell that claim and move into space conquered for them!
A+ for effort F- for content.
Much like your alliance
M8 id get a mirror if i were you bud cos that statment pretty much sums up all of goon.
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Jomin Herdsy
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.02 18:42:00 -
[436]
If BoB has so many capitals in reserve and deep enough pockets to replace them how come they havenĘt risked deploying them to decisively defeat our capswarm or to destroy our POSs? Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo |
TZeer
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.08.02 19:49:00 -
[437]
Originally by: Jomin Herdsy If BoB has so many capitals in reserve and deep enough pockets to replace them how come they havenĘt risked deploying them to decisively defeat our capswarm or to destroy our POSs?
Greed and the drive to cover their own ass if everything goes to hell...
Same stuff happend to ASCN, according to our internal forums, our own industry produced over 100 carriers and almost the same amount of dreads before the war with bob...
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Dionisius
Gallente LEGI0N SOUL CARTEL
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Posted - 2007.08.02 21:23:00 -
[438]
Originally by: CrispyKritters
Originally by: Dionisius
Actually they have quite a bit more.
Not counting cap ships stil repackaged and ready to substitute the ones that end up in a "wrecked" state in space.
Are you a BoB financial analyst or something?
I hear BoB has 100 trillion isk in reserve just waiting for the right moment to throw at us along with 500 faction fitted ships, 100 dreads, and 200 carriers.
Nope, no analist, info came from bob members in a casual talk, as its no big secret and makes perfect sense.
BoB collect payment weekly/monthly from the pets, and have ships stocked, atm they are prolly one of the best stocked alliances in the game.
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Originally by: Splagada Edited by: Splagada on 21/06/2007 13:51:39 in eve you can break their windows, take over the house, and throw the children in the fire. |
The Beatnuts
UA Industry Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.02 21:42:00 -
[439]
Originally by: Dionisius
BoB collect payment weekly/monthly from the pets, and have ships stocked, atm they are prolly one of the best stocked alliances in the game.
After my personal hangar.
Don't speak english - f1, f2, f3
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Plim
Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.08.02 21:51:00 -
[440]
Originally by: The Beatnuts
Originally by: Dionisius
BoB collect payment weekly/monthly from the pets, and have ships stocked, atm they are prolly one of the best stocked alliances in the game.
After my personal hangar.
And my fridge.
Rudolf: "I was sworn to absolute secrecy by Santa Claus." |
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Dionisius
Gallente LEGI0N SOUL CARTEL
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Posted - 2007.08.02 21:54:00 -
[441]
Originally by: Plim
Originally by: The Beatnuts
Originally by: Dionisius
BoB collect payment weekly/monthly from the pets, and have ships stocked, atm they are prolly one of the best stocked alliances in the game.
After my personal hangar.
And my fridge.
Then what are you waiting to pass me a beer??? _______________________
Originally by: Splagada Edited by: Splagada on 21/06/2007 13:51:39 in eve you can break their windows, take over the house, and throw the children in the fire. |
Fuglife
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.08.02 21:55:00 -
[442]
Originally by: Plim
Originally by: The Beatnuts
Originally by: Dionisius
BoB collect payment weekly/monthly from the pets, and have ships stocked, atm they are prolly one of the best stocked alliances in the game.
After my personal hangar.
And my fridge.
and my axe!
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.02 22:14:00 -
[443]
Originally by: Dionisius
Nope, no analist, info came from bob members in a casual talk, as its no big secret and makes perfect sense.
BoB collect payment weekly/monthly from the pets, and have ships stocked, atm they are prolly one of the best stocked alliances in the game.
Might want to ask EVOL about that.
Also, you said analist lol.
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Lee Bian
Amarryan Nations GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.03 06:36:00 -
[444]
Originally by: Plim
Originally by: The Beatnuts
Originally by: Dionisius
BoB collect payment weekly/monthly from the pets, and have ships stocked, atm they are prolly one of the best stocked alliances in the game.
After my personal hangar.
And my fridge.
Fatty.
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Relaria Hossin
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.03 07:32:00 -
[445]
I can tell who the goons are without even looking at the name or the corp/alliance ticker.
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Lee Bian
Amarryan Nations GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.03 07:39:00 -
[446]
Originally by: Relaria Hossin I can tell who the goons are without even looking at the name or the corp/alliance ticker.
because of the men in our signatures?
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Alias11
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.03 07:45:00 -
[447]
Originally by: Relaria Hossin I can tell who the goons are without even looking at the name or the corp/alliance ticker.
furthermore
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Dionisius
Gallente LEGI0N SOUL CARTEL
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Posted - 2007.08.03 10:04:00 -
[448]
Originally by: NO BRAKES
Originally by: Dionisius
Nope, no analist, info came from bob members in a casual talk, as its no big secret and makes perfect sense.
BoB collect payment weekly/monthly from the pets, and have ships stocked, atm they are prolly one of the best stocked alliances in the game.
Might want to ask EVOL about that.
Also, you said analist lol.
Why would i ask EVOL about one thing that is cristal clear? BoB alliance has received ALOT of isks from pet rents, sold items, etc etc and so on, they are most rich alliance, or one of the most rich, alliances in the game.
In other words, they have the gear, but they seem to be lacking the imagination to use the gear properly.
Not that i'm pro-BoB or anything, actually i despise most of their members with exception for a few people in there that are actually nice and decent, while the rest, pets included are only tools with lots of isks to spend and acting like they matter.
Now i'm not either pro-Goon because you guys are less polished version of BoB, but if it meens people have to support you just to reach an end... that being the end of BoB or at least the end of a large portion of their territory then so be it, its choosing between the less of 2 evils.
Only thing your alliance probably differs is that you don't put on that silly friends mask on foruns and GF you guys are respectable and all that crap that everyone else puts on in here when i fleet or gang i've smacked, i've seen others smack and everyone disrespects everyone and their mother in oposite gangs, petitions fly around and all that crap.
So after this little rant of mine and just for finals, someone needs to use the old thing called imagination and instead of going head on with the foe try to start hitting were it worst the most besides the pride...
Oh and i don't give a ******* if i make one mistake or 2 or whatever writing in english. _______________________
Originally by: Splagada Edited by: Splagada on 21/06/2007 13:51:39 in eve you can break their windows, take over the house, and throw the children in the fire. |
NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.03 14:37:00 -
[449]
Originally by: Dionisius
Originally by: NO BRAKES
Originally by: Dionisius
Nope, no analist, info came from bob members in a casual talk, as its no big secret and makes perfect sense.
BoB collect payment weekly/monthly from the pets, and have ships stocked, atm they are prolly one of the best stocked alliances in the game.
Might want to ask EVOL about that.
Also, you said analist lol.
Why would i ask EVOL about one thing that is cristal clear? BoB alliance has received ALOT of isks from pet rents, sold items, etc etc and so on, they are most rich alliance, or one of the most rich, alliances in the game.
Lurk more
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CrispyKritters
Caldari GoonFleet
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:17:00 -
[450]
Originally by: Dionisius
Originally by: NO BRAKES
Originally by: Dionisius
Nope, no analist, info came from bob members in a casual talk, as its no big secret and makes perfect sense.
BoB collect payment weekly/monthly from the pets, and have ships stocked, atm they are prolly one of the best stocked alliances in the game.
Might want to ask EVOL about that.
Also, you said analist lol.
Why would i ask EVOL about one thing that is cristal clear? BoB alliance has received ALOT of isks from pet rents, sold items, etc etc and so on, they are most rich alliance, or one of the most rich, alliances in the game.
In other words, they have the gear, but they seem to be lacking the imagination to use the gear properly.
Not that i'm pro-BoB or anything, actually i despise most of their members with exception for a few people in there that are actually nice and decent, while the rest, pets included are only tools with lots of isks to spend and acting like they matter.
Now i'm not either pro-Goon because you guys are less polished version of BoB, but if it meens people have to support you just to reach an end... that being the end of BoB or at least the end of a large portion of their territory then so be it, its choosing between the less of 2 evils.
Only thing your alliance probably differs is that you don't put on that silly friends mask on foruns and GF you guys are respectable and all that crap that everyone else puts on in here when i fleet or gang i've smacked, i've seen others smack and everyone disrespects everyone and their mother in oposite gangs, petitions fly around and all that crap.
So after this little rant of mine and just for finals, someone needs to use the old thing called imagination and instead of going head on with the foe try to start hitting were it worst the most besides the pride...
Oh and i don't give a ******* if i make one mistake or 2 or whatever writing in english.
You're going to base your assessment of BoB finances on what you heard from a BoB member?
Their actions speak more then any plebian from BoB could. If they had this so called fortune, they could have pos spammed us back to Syndicate or at least fight this war a little more... efficiently.
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