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WT Snacks
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Posted - 2007.08.10 16:31:00 -
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I'm going to assume that the OP is a troll of epic proportions. RSDs are the only piece of ewar left untouched, as ECM was nerfed into oblivion and TP/TD are equally useless. Stop nerfing, start buffing.
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Major Stallion
Four Rings
D-L
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Posted - 2007.08.10 16:49:00 -
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 Originally by: WT Snacks
RSDs are the only piece of ewar left untouched
duh, cant you see why he wants it nerfed?! its the only thing that hasnt been nerfed yet. 
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Lord DarkStar
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United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.10 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: Kaben
Originally by: Lady Caeser
RSDs need to have stacking penalty applied, would solve all these whines
Hmm, I was under the assumption that if you used more then one against the same target they were stack nerfed.
They are - I fly an Arazu and trust me they are stacking nerfed.
They are good but they are not an i-win button,i lost an arazu to 2 bc because they got too close (died in under 10 seconds to their guns the ships themselves are paper),cant damp both like you could with ecm,theres a bit more to the story on how they got to close but the point is they did.
At 30km Arazu itself works fine,anything closer in lock range the ship is dead,as for other ships using them,they dont get the ship bonus,and if you cant get close enough to counter 1 or 2 damps then thats your falt,1 or 2 damps doesnt do much to a BS lock range,expecially when combat normally happens at close range (fleet battles and large gang pvp damps are too useful) so stop whining and learn to fight.
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DMF KingBob
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Posted - 2007.08.10 19:16:00 -
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it is ok to use RSD on an bonus ship but what i mean is using an RSD on an non-bonus ship like a merlin or an vagabond or an curse or what ever and make pvps to easy to win when the victim is non-stop-jammed (range/lockspeed)by an ship with much med slots and no bonuses
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Kieran Jarnush
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Posted - 2007.08.16 11:35:00 -
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i come to think that all ecm and/or offensive modules (nos,ecm,bursts,damps,tracking disrupts,webs & scrams) should be moved to the utility highslots and promote a number of fixed utility highslots per ship where only ecm modules can be mounted to.
like 3 utility slots for curse/pilgrim to fit its nos, 4 on a scorp to fit ecm, 3-4 on an arazu/lachesis to fit damps... you get the deal
it would be much cleaner and dicate how many ecm modules can be fitted onto a ship as well as designing ships that are specially made to fit them. woulda be a large redesign tho...
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aldarrin
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Posted - 2007.08.16 14:10:00 -
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so you are suggesting the old e-war hard point argument?
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Kieran Jarnush
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Posted - 2007.08.16 16:49:00 -
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yeah looks like i'm doin this (bah i'm not original!).
woulda be better than having a nerf here and nerf there every so often.
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Tsin'Valha
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Posted - 2007.08.17 01:48:00 -
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Bah, RSD are the only option... sure, but they are now used in the same way that the multispec II's were used and abused by damn near everyone capable of using ECM multispecs. Before ECM nerf, 20 ships, 20 ECM Multispec II's fitted if able. Post nerf, 20 ships, 20+ remote dampers. So RSD's are balanced? Not by a long shot. In fleet battles involving carrier support the first thing you hear is "Damp the Carriers" and then primaries are called.
Thank all the idiots loading as many damps as possible to their ships for people getting sick of the Damp being the new uber-ewar mod. Yes, IMHO CCP went crazy with the nerfbat on ECM, but should have had the foresight to realize that RSD's would be abused in the same way.
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velocity7
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Posted - 2007.08.17 15:23:00 -
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Edited by: velocity7 on 17/08/2007 15:27:00
I agree; ECMs should be on the same level as RSDs. If RSDs can do it, then ECMs should too. Of course, they have their advantages and disadvantages; ECMs would have their percentage chance of not working, and RSDs would not work if people were too close. This will need tweaking, but there should be a good balance between using one or the other, as some Force Recon ships have bonuses for ECMs as opposed to RSDs.
I should also point out... if you're getting jammed, use FoFs. :)
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DMF KingBob
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Posted - 2007.08.17 16:20:00 -
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Edited by: DMF KingBob on 17/08/2007 16:19:46
the second effect of the RSD (lockspeed) works by every distance
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Hatch
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Posted - 2007.08.18 07:38:00 -
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you got pwned by two newbs, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, GET OVER IT OR GO BACK TO WOW
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Kieran Jarnush
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Posted - 2007.08.18 09:24:00 -
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Originally by: Hatch
you got pwned by two newbs, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, GET OVER IT OR GO BACK TO WOW
your hair looks ****e AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH.
seriously this added as much to the thread as your comment...
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Lugburz
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Posted - 2007.08.18 12:52:00 -
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Originally by: Azirapheal
(expletive alluding to the doggish qualities of the OP's mother and certain sexual acts) OFF
no i dont use sensor damps myself BUT IM ******* SICK OF THE ******* NERF BRIGADE.
you mission*****s get it all your own ******* way dont you?
nerf nos, wtz, nanonerf etc etc etc
you always tell us pirates to adapt, WE DO
NOW MOTHER******* ADAPT YOURSELF.
Im a mission runner 
Never asked for a nerf for anything, tbh i dont know why the idiot at the top wasnt using dampeners himself? maybe hes allergic to anything that does something other than increase your shields/armor/hull.... i bet he's one of the idiots who messed up NOS, bc's, ecm's etc... i havent been here long...
Un nerf the training deadspaces!!!
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Lugburz
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Posted - 2007.08.18 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: DMF KingBob
Edited by: DMF KingBob on 09/08/2007 07:39:05
ECM vs RSD should be balanced but it isnt or why does the pilots use an RSD instead an ECM or TD
it easy to see that RSDs work much better then an ECM or TD
if you think an ECM is blanced to an RSD then replace all your RSD with ECM or is this not easy enough ?
here are the facts again
ECM works not every time and when its works
the enmey cant not lock the target this is 1 effect for some time(1 point for ECM)
RSD works every time (1 point for RSD)and the first effect is it decrease your lock range (2. point for RSD)and the next effect is it decrease your lock speed(3.point)
that cant be to hard to understand
ECM is not a untouchable system but RSD makes sometimes untouchable and this is a balancing problem
http://cisco211.de/eve/kms/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=132
and this is not the first contact with the problem and maybe not the last -.-
Dude, ecm is only crapper than damps because unlike damps ecm has already been nerfed! are you a bit slow? do you need help reading this? would you like a dime bar??
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Dana Serenity
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Posted - 2007.08.18 13:22:00 -
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"IF YOU NERF EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING WILL HAVE TO BE RENERFED!"
Now I understand that inline with keeping the game balanced, small nerfs and boosts are required but there is absolutely no point in nerfing something that has multiple counters against it. RSD's have loads of counters so there is no point to nerfing them.
1) Long range
I have a Rokh that has 200+km targeting range, I have yet to see a sensor dampener able to dampen me from that range
2) Close range
I also have a blasterthron, the turrents only have a 4km range and it has a 99km targeting range, you in your RSD setup is very unlikely to dampen my targeting range to lower than this. As long as I can tank you for the time it takes to target and I'm in range, I'm gonna deal you so much DPS you will pop
3) erm.. RSDS
You've dampened me, great, if I dampen you back, the playing field is even
4) FOF missiles
Yes I hate FOF missiles too but Sensor dampening is an act of aggression, fof missiles will go for a target who is agressing... plain an simple
5) ECM
If a target is jammed, they cant dampen ya!
And well the list goes on.. put simply there is no point in nerfing RSD's when there are multiple counters. And lets face it, they nerf this, every forum whiner will just whine about something else. The first person that claims that ECM's need nerfing cause what is the point of Pvp if you cant even target them. I will personally fly to my locater agent, hunt you down and repeatedly pod you until I get banned for grief tactics
Have a nice day
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Lugburz
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Posted - 2007.08.18 14:09:00 -
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Originally by: Dana Serenity
If your a solder fighting a war in real life, just because you have been in the army for 20 years does not mean that an enemy solder who has only been serving for 1 month can't kill you.
Have a nice day
If you had served for twenty years believing you cant be killed i'd be amazed you were still alive :)
I am invincible, my body is not....
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