Originally by: Tomeus

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Come on, you guys knew perfectly well that if you challenged the sov of a drone alliance we'd all respond. Your command has known that for months.

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Originally by: TheAdj

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Last time I checked there are PLENTY of IO people on killmails, including cap on cap pvp kills. You guys are significantly larger than us, and we did regular pvp with you all the time with no problems, we never asked anyone for help because we didn't need it. We couldn't handle the cap fleet you guys brought, so we reached out for help like any sane alliance. You can dismiss us if you want, but so far that isn't working too well for you. I have respect for the pvp abilities of SMASH/RK, but you won't just dismiss us. If someone invaded your space, you'd have friends showing up to help too, don't deny it.

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Originally by: Futher Bezluden

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Originally by: Tomeus

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Come on, you guys knew perfectly well that if you challenged the sov of a drone alliance we'd all respond. Your command has known that for months.

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We at ATLAS heard that rumor. Tomeus, remember the convo you had with CI/ATLAS when PURE attacked CI's sovereignty? You gave everyone there the same assurances. Then suddenly backed out 100%..

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Originally by: Dez Affinity

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Edited by: Dez Affinity on 31/08/2007 08:00:24

Originally by: TheAdj

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Last time I checked there are PLENTY of IO people on killmails, including cap on cap pvp kills. You guys are significantly larger than us, and we did regular pvp with you all the time with no problems, we never asked anyone for help because we didn't need it. We couldn't handle the cap fleet you guys brought, so we reached out for help like any sane alliance. You can dismiss us if you want, but so far that isn't working too well for you. I have respect for the pvp abilities of SMASH/RK, but you won't just dismiss us. If someone invaded your space, you'd have friends showing up to help too, don't deny it.

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I wouldn't dismiss you, that would be illogical of me. Of course you have some merit, afterall you do control space. I was mainly talking about how few of you there are in comparison to your allies.

Originally by: Mazza

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The only people benifiting from this conflict are bob.

I just dont understand why smashkill and friends are doing this, apart from to spread your own influence in the drone regions and spread yet further there is no reason to assault MJ-

The reasons for the assault may or may not be valid depending upon your point of view but that aside others could of sorted out the problem.

Now because of smashkill and friends actions forces have to pulled back from the northern and southern fronts to defend space that in all rights wasn't under threat in the 1st place.

So now peeps such as Goons,RA,MM,Rzr are losing allies as they return to the drone regions to defeat this attack.

Can't you see the bigger picture here? Bob must love this as now pressure is being slackened off on them due to this.

All your doing is isolating yourselfs from everyone else. I hope its worth it guys

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Go do what you have to do, we are not stopping you as far as I'm concerned. We are in no position to pack up and go home just because. We aren't doing this to help BoB and we aren't doing this to prevent you from shooting BoB. We are doing this to remove IO from their space.

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Originally by: Dez Affinity

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Go do what you have to do, we are not stopping you as far as I'm concerned. We are in no position to pack up and go home just because. We aren't doing this to help BoB and we aren't doing this to prevent you from shooting BoB. We are doing this to remove IO from their space.

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Originally by: ForumPosterAlt

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619 ships killed in the last 24 hours, holy balls

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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Originally by: Dez Affinity

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Go do what you have to do, we are not stopping you as far as I'm concerned. We are in no position to pack up and go home just because. We aren't doing this to help BoB and we aren't doing this to prevent you from shooting BoB. We are doing this to remove IO from their space.

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You attacked an ally, you forced our hand. And why can't you just go home? If there are valid grievances I am sure we can work them out, but the moment you brought in dreads and started shooting POS, the path had been set. We do not tolerate sovereignty attacks against MAD-Pact members.

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As you said, we clearly have grievances with IO and I don't think that simply leaving them be is in our best interests.

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Originally by: Mazza

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But destabalising the entire region is a better option?

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Originally by: Dez Affinity

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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Originally by: Dez Affinity

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Go do what you have to do, we are not stopping you as far as I'm concerned. We are in no position to pack up and go home just because. We aren't doing this to help BoB and we aren't doing this to prevent you from shooting BoB. We are doing this to remove IO from their space.

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You attacked an ally, you forced our hand. And why can't you just go home? If there are valid grievances I am sure we can work them out, but the moment you brought in dreads and started shooting POS, the path had been set. We do not tolerate sovereignty attacks against MAD-Pact members.

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First of all just to make sure you know, I don't speak for my alliance or even my corp.

But just packing up and leaving would not only be an embarassment to us but also allow IO to keep their space. For you guys, I think the same applies, for you to commit so many people to the fight then decide to leave, maybe it affect your 'reputation' as well, which is why I don't see you allowing IO to go down. I think that even if you didn't think we had our eyes set on the drone space you would still have reacted similarly in order to make sure no one gets in your way so to speak. As you said, we clearly have grievances with IO and I don't think that simply leaving them be is in our best interests.

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I don't see it as destabalizing the entire region, I see it as destabalizing IO's foothold.

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Originally by: Dez Affinity

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Originally by: Mazza

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But destabalising the entire region is a better option?

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I don't see it as destabalizing the entire region, I see it as destabalizing IO's foothold.

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Originally by: Ebusitanus

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Yes, we could all be using these assets against BoB instead. Hope Diplos might sort this out.

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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin

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Edited by: Tobias Sjodin on 31/08/2007 11:03:49
Edited by: Tobias Sjodin on 31/08/2007 11:02:37

Originally by: Ebusitanus

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Yes, we could all be using these assets against BoB instead. Hope Diplos might sort this out.

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Wow, you say that as if you have no other agenda but to kill bob.

What do you think happens if those goals of yours someone elses are accomplished? Everyone settles peacefully?

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Originally by: Ebusitanus

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Hope Diplos might sort this out.

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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But its pretty clear Smashkill have abandoned all pretenses of being part of the Coalition IMO.

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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin

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Edited by: Tobias Sjodin on 31/08/2007 11:03:49
Edited by: Tobias Sjodin on 31/08/2007 11:02:37

Originally by: Ebusitanus

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Yes, we could all be using these assets against BoB instead. Hope Diplos might sort this out.

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Wow, you say that as if you have no other agenda but to kill bob.

What do you think happens if those goals of yours someone elses are accomplished? Everyone settles peacefully?

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Originally by: Ebusitanus

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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin

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Edited by: Tobias Sjodin on 31/08/2007 11:03:49
Edited by: Tobias Sjodin on 31/08/2007 11:02:37

Originally by: Ebusitanus

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Yes, we could all be using these assets against BoB instead. Hope Diplos might sort this out.

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Wow, you say that as if you have no other agenda but to kill bob.

What do you think happens if those goals of yours someone elses are accomplished? Everyone settles peacefully?

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So much for "we got wronged" part. Ok, then lets just kill each other. Your skull on my desk is as good for an ashtray as that of a Bobit.

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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin

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Edited by: Tobias Sjodin on 31/08/2007 12:04:38
Edited by: Tobias Sjodin on 31/08/2007 12:03:44

Originally by: Ebusitanus

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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin

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Edited by: Tobias Sjodin on 31/08/2007 11:03:49
Edited by: Tobias Sjodin on 31/08/2007 11:02:37

Originally by: Ebusitanus

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Yes, we could all be using these assets against BoB instead. Hope Diplos might sort this out.

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Wow, you say that as if you have no other agenda but to kill bob.

What do you think happens if those goals of yours someone elses are accomplished? Everyone settles peacefully?

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So much for "we got wronged" part. Ok, then lets just kill each other. Your skull on my desk is as good for an ashtray as that of a Bobit.

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You don't seem to understand the words I type, so I'll put it plainly:

1) There is not only one thing that occupies R0ADKILL's agenda.

This was a counter to the "OMG! Why are you wasting your time doing this and that, and whatnot, you should jump on the bandwagon and only have one thing on your mind."

2) There are other concerns we take heed to.

No comment necessary.

3) One of these concerns is blues firing on us. Then we go show them they can't just do that and get away with it.

No, we won't just "forget" incursions like that just because people like INVICTUS set us to red and hoped they'd get away with it. We had you blue while you started attacking us. And now you side with others who have done similar things. Birds of a feather...

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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You keep repeating that, but its bull****.

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And I know you're gonna say:"you have to tell it to a diplomat". Well, no I don't.

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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1. Who says they are someone else's goals?

2.If it happens, I am sure we will find new targets soon enough.

But its pretty clear Smashkill have abandoned all pretenses of being part of the Coalition IMO.

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Originally by: Johnny ReeRee

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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1. Who says they are someone else's goals?

2.If it happens, I am sure we will find new targets soon enough.

But its pretty clear Smashkill have abandoned all pretenses of being part of the Coalition IMO.

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Well, so has INVICTUS, of course. I haven't really seen any recent reports of INVICTUS actually fighting BoB, in Omist, Feythabolis, or anywhere else really.

Does standing on the sidelines cheerleading make you a member of the Coalition?

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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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You keep repeating that, but its bull****.

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It's funny you say this, and then go say...

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And I know you're gonna say:"you have to tell it to a diplomat". Well, no I don't.

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And then say that.


Funny stuff.

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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1. You were told 4 hours before we started shooting.

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Originally by: Futher Bezluden

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We at ATLAS heard that rumor. Tomeus, remember the convo you had with CI/ATLAS when PURE attacked CI's sovereignty? You gave everyone there the same assurances. Then suddenly backed out 100%.

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Originally by: Dawn Princess

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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1. You were told 4 hours before we started shooting.

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Actually it was 4 hours notice before some solo guy killed a miner or something.

The main battle took place about 15 hoursafter you were told, 12 hours after some of your members had been shot and about 3 hours after we had been sat in the next system with a large gang!!!

It only takes about 30 seconds to change standings.
Exactly how much notice do you guys need?

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