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Endeavour Starfleet
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.22 08:47:00 -
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Mothership site spotted go get it!
Another primetime day without incursions should put nice pressure on the BS so called leadership. |
Endeavour Starfleet
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
606
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Posted - 2012.01.22 08:53:00 -
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Another Incursion in Haurala going to get to pwn multiple incursion sites today. The Tears from TDF and BTL leadership will be terrific! |
Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
686
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Posted - 2012.01.22 09:43:00 -
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Alizma wrote:Frankly CCP has made it way to eazy to be pirates in this game, giving hualers, traders and miners very little defence.
Doing something like this just makes the game pointless, what do you get out of it? whats the point, why stress the other players? just so you can be greedy and have everything to your self?
Again i seriouslly disaprove of this actions, goes to show how much Eve online has declined to balless swines.
You were playing a game ill-suited to your gentle temperament. Give my warm regards to your fellow gamers in SW:TOR.
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Tenris Anis
Schattenengel Clan
17
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Posted - 2012.01.22 10:53:00 -
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Dino Boff wrote:Little clarification. Krissada's fleet is not blitzing the motherships. We are just killing them as soon as they show up as it was meant to be. As a result some of those incursion events have been very short.
But the responsibility is on the capsulers who are blitzing this event and on CCP who didn't fix some of the sites. Without these broken sites, HS incursion wouldn't generate this crazy amount of ISK, those incursion wouldn't be so short, capsulers would focus on getting that mothership down instead of farming those events and HS bears wouldn't be so addicted to that easy ISK.
Thanks to Krissada for fixing the game.
HS Incursions NEVER ever did generate a crazy amount of ISK in the first place. People just screwed up their math when calculating their incursion incomes.
Traveling to incursions ain-¦t free. Wait times for fleets are not free. Losing a contested site is not free. You are losing time everywhere in the process to run incursion. Some people seem to forget this when they are talking how much they make per hour. Sure you can do a site every 6 minutes or so, but only once you have done all preparations before. And you can not just login make 30 millions in 30 minutes and just log off. You have to commit more time into a profitable incursion run, else side factors are eating your profits and you would have been better off running l4s in high or sanctums/whatever in null. There is risk involved even in vgs, it may not really the risk to lose your ship, but you can and do end up for example traveling 20 systems just to realize that someone did kill the mother, and this happens even before the current events on regular basis. |
Dzajic
58
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Posted - 2012.01.22 11:43:00 -
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For n-th time. There is nothing broken or exploited about how Incursions used to be. You are making stuff up to justify your actions to rest of the community; you know you are doing it for tears and lulz, but for some mysterious reason you are striving to prove that you are doing a good thing and benefiting the game.
Once again I will point out to CSM minutes. Nor CCP, nor its game economist, nor CSM have pointed out that Incursions are broken and that any exploits are being used.
So I suppose you are just so much more cleaver than CCP and CSM and see what they do not. |
Khanh'rhh
One Man Rodgering
643
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Posted - 2012.01.22 12:36:00 -
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I love how all you need to do is run the Incursions as they were originally intended (not leaving them to be farmed) and suddenly you're drowning in entitled carebear tears.
Keep it up, guys.
Quite from BTL last night: "I've cancelled my account. I will only play again if CCP ban this griefing"
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"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Mikal Red
Lead Farmers
Kill It With Fire
8
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Posted - 2012.01.22 12:44:00 -
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Dzajic wrote:Once again I will point out to CSM minutes. Nor CCP, nor its game economist, nor CSM have pointed out that Incursions are broken and that any exploits are being used.
So I suppose you are just so much more cleaver than CCP and CSM and see what they do not. I'm sorry, what?
CSM Minutes wrote: the time for adjustments based on player behavior data is at hand GÇô adjusting the distribution of the sites and adjusting the payout being highest on the list That was agreed by both CCP and the CSM. Page 8. So it would seem there are things that need to be fixed, like people have been saying.
Also, it's not spelt cleaver. |
Dzajic
59
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Posted - 2012.01.22 14:14:00 -
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Yes VGs need tweaking. I will not deny that. Only one class of sites out of 4 being worth doing is broken content.
Though nothing is said to be as broken, and especially destroying the game, as you claim.
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FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
Petition Blizzard
784
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Posted - 2012.01.22 14:27:00 -
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Fronkfurter McSheebleton wrote:FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Really? The incursion community couldn't muster a few dozen PVP ships to group up and wardec us? It's not that they lack numbers, it's that they lack the will (or maybe the courage) to actually do it. The consistency, sir. The organization that is enjoyed by having everyone in a single alliance with(more or less) the same goals. That is what they lack. It's not just one group of people...
But we're not a single alliance, either. We're a coalition of three groups, with a few other people who are along for the fun. |
gascanu
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.01.22 15:06:00 -
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i really don't get all this hate about incursions; at least ppl are "working" for they're isk, not booting like some of the 0.0 "ellite pvpers" do...
also speaking about "too much isk" : that's a tiny bit from what some large alliance are getting from moon mining; getting a PASSIVE income of several trillions isk/month ,now that is something worth of being fixed, not john doe doind 2-3 hundred millions/day. 
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XXSketchxx
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
115
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Posted - 2012.01.22 15:21:00 -
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gascanu wrote: i really don't get all this hate about incursions; at least ppl are "working" for they're isk, not booting like some of the 0.0 "ellite pvpers" do... also speaking about "too much isk" : that's a tiny bit from what some large alliance are getting from moon mining; getting a PASSIVE income of several trillions isk/month ,now that is something worth of being fixed, not john doe doind 2-3 hundred millions/day.
haha you think incursions are work
also confirming no effort goes in to claiming moons, they just sort of fall into the laps of their owners |
fuer0n
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
71
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Posted - 2012.01.22 16:24:00 -
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gascanu wrote: i really don't get all this hate about incursions; at least ppl are "working" for they're isk, not booting like some of the 0.0 "ellite pvpers" do... also speaking about "too much isk" : that's a tiny bit from what some large alliance are getting from moon mining; getting a PASSIVE income of several trillions isk/month ,now that is something worth of being fixed, not john doe doind 2-3 hundred millions/day.
exactly, don't see some of the csm bitching about that though do we.
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Ispia Jaydrath
Reib Autonomous Industries
19
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Posted - 2012.01.22 17:37:00 -
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fuer0n wrote:gascanu wrote: i really don't get all this hate about incursions; at least ppl are "working" for they're isk, not booting like some of the 0.0 "ellite pvpers" do... also speaking about "too much isk" : that's a tiny bit from what some large alliance are getting from moon mining; getting a PASSIVE income of several trillions isk/month ,now that is something worth of being fixed, not john doe doind 2-3 hundred millions/day. exactly, don't see some of the csm bitching about that though do we.
You mean aside from the parts where:
Quote:The CSM spoke critically of the technetium bottleneck and the need to rebalance moon income. The CSM noted that alliance income should be tied more closely to actually possessing territory rather than sov-independent income sources like moons.
and
Quote:The CSM stated that a sovholding allianceGÇÖs primary income should stem from the territory itself, such as the taxation of line memberGÇÖs ratting income or Planetary Interaction, rather than from sovless income sources such as moons. The CSM noted that there is too much emphasis on moons, particularly technetium, as a source of alliance income.
So anyway, you are incredibly bad at the internet. |
Katherine Starlight
Apex Tech
Xenogenesis Alliance
3
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Posted - 2012.01.22 17:38:00 -
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incursions are decreasing the value of ISK, which is something CSM and CCP are striving towards.
they are all politician, they force **** down your throat and you love it because you don't know any better than believing their lies when the true objective is their own profit from your loss, But then again some people want to live in totalitarian dictatorship.
CSM is NOT the voice of EVE players, they are just random people up in their own ego thinking they are important.
Team BFF was the voice of the EVE players.
Highsec does not need an infinite isk-farm. |
XXSketchxx
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
115
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Posted - 2012.01.22 18:07:00 -
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Katherine Starlight wrote:
CSM is NOT the voice of EVE players, they are just random people up in their own ego thinking they are important.
You're literally an idiot that doesn't know what democracy is.
If you want the CSM to represent your voice, organize people to vote for someone you support hurrrrrrrr |
XXSketchxx
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
115
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Posted - 2012.01.22 18:10:00 -
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Ispia Jaydrath wrote:fuer0n wrote:gascanu wrote: i really don't get all this hate about incursions; at least ppl are "working" for they're isk, not booting like some of the 0.0 "ellite pvpers" do... also speaking about "too much isk" : that's a tiny bit from what some large alliance are getting from moon mining; getting a PASSIVE income of several trillions isk/month ,now that is something worth of being fixed, not john doe doind 2-3 hundred millions/day. exactly, don't see some of the csm bitching about that though do we. You mean aside from the parts where: Quote:The CSM spoke critically of the technetium bottleneck and the need to rebalance moon income. The CSM noted that alliance income should be tied more closely to actually possessing territory rather than sov-independent income sources like moons. and Quote:The CSM stated that a sovholding allianceGÇÖs primary income should stem from the territory itself, such as the taxation of line memberGÇÖs ratting income or Planetary Interaction, rather than from sovless income sources such as moons. The CSM noted that there is too much emphasis on moons, particularly technetium, as a source of alliance income. So anyway, you are incredibly bad at the internet.
Don't you know anything? High sec pubbies can't read.
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Substantia Nigra
NFI industrial
Revival Of The Talocan Empire
437
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Posted - 2012.01.22 18:59:00 -
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XXSketchxx wrote:
You're literally an idiot that doesn't know what democracy is.
xxsketchxx = emperor salazar = veteran troll who seems to get rocks off from name calling and trying to make others look / feel stupid. Hell, I don't need anyone else's help to look stupid.
As for thread content? Another example of ppl trying to force others to play eve differently. Main difference here is that it's not all moaning and whining and name-calling. Whatever you may think of them, or their motivation, they have at least gotten off their asses as the have done something constructive / destructive. Way better than the interminable bleating and self-serving pseudo rationalisations.
Go for it guys, go for it. I doubt the incursion community would be too fussed by all this. They prolly know already how quickly those involved will lose interest.
We can build and sell pretty much every ship. Check my bio for details. Our pirate epic arc completion packages really are very good: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12973&find=unread |
Spineker
109
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Posted - 2012.01.22 19:47:00 -
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Democracy in Eve? WTF that is stupid to even pretend it. |
Khanh'rhh
One Man Rodgering
645
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Posted - 2012.01.22 20:02:00 -
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gascanu wrote: also speaking about "too much isk" : that's a tiny bit from what some large alliance are getting from moon mining
Moons, of any type, do not create ISK. In fact, mining them is an ISK sink (removes ISK from the game) when you consider taxation on the sale of the technetium.
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"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Niko Takahashi
United Starbase Systems
26
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Posted - 2012.01.22 23:07:00 -
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Roxwar wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Roxwar wrote:
Maybe i dont see the bigger picture so only commenting on what i gleen from these forums, but what effect does it have on your experience of playing eve, your game, that high sec players are farming a particular event and earning lots of isk?
The bigger picture is this: despite low and 0.0 sec incursions nominally pay out better, low sec and 0.0 players come to hi sec (or jump clone to hi sec) to farm hi sec incursions. Even former rich WH players abandon WHs to switch into doing hi sec incursions. Now, the reasons are many but I suppose the main one is this: Low sec and 0.0 incursions pay more but must be done on far worse ships and T2 fittings therefore they end up being done at more risk and MUCH less efficiency than high sec ones. Therefore the low sec / 0.0 dwellers do their math and all come to hi sec. Furthermore, unlike hi sec, the more you stay at a given site, the exponentially higher the probability of being found by aggressors. This automagically promotes hi sec incursions as THE way to farm ISK. Expecially when made not to end. In the past, this happened for other game features (i.e. L4) and CCP used some hard nerfs, multiple times. Ahh, now i see more clearly. But using that very same logic, Darius is actually not only messing with high sec playes, but WH/Low/Null players all at the same time yes? So basically in effect, he's alienating 99% of the EVE player base in doing what he's doing? Way to get yourself re-elected for CSM  I have to ask ( excuse the noobism here ) but from reading the forums, does being a CSM member require you to be a complete douche most of the time and make a point of ruining everybody elses game just because their idea of fun differ's from your own? Seems thats the general concensus from here regarding people such as The Mittani and Darius and the actions they've taken and the way in which they managed to get the actual owners to change the game mechanics in certain regards to suit their own ideals as to how THEY think the game should work.
Well pretty much CSM and 75% of null are full of people like that. There are few wxception to this rule but most of them are like that.
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XXSketchxx
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
117
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Posted - 2012.01.22 23:25:00 -
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Substantia Nigra wrote:XXSketchxx wrote:
You're literally an idiot that doesn't know what democracy is.
xxsketchxx = emperor salazar = veteran troll who seems to get rocks off from name calling and trying to make others look / feel stupid. Hell, I don't need anyone else's help to look stupid.
You really have a crush on me don't you buddy?
You wanna give me a blow job or something? |
Spineker
109
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Posted - 2012.01.22 23:46:00 -
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Suppose they killed all the MoMs today.
Do they pop up somewhere else after the MoM death or is that it for today?
Maybe if they stopped the respawn and had them pop up somewhere else it would stop the drama. It is the farming that people are up in arms about not incursions themselves or that is how I see it anyway. |
Kaanchana
Rocket Rajas
156
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Posted - 2012.01.23 00:59:00 -
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Spineker wrote:Suppose they killed all the MoMs today.
Do they pop up somewhere else after the MoM death or is that it for today?
Maybe if they stopped the respawn and had them pop up somewhere else it would stop the drama. It is the farming that people are up in arms about not incursions themselves or that is how I see it anyway.
AFAIK they don't pop up again. Once u kill the mom, it means that incursion is over and the next one will spawn at a random area and at a random time. Its definitely not like running anoms in 0.0 
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Dino Boff
Lead Farmers
Kill It With Fire
2
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Posted - 2012.01.23 01:52:00 -
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Spineker wrote:Suppose they killed all the MoMs today.
They are actually dead, thanks to Krissada's fleet and with BTL/DTL's help. 3 New incursions should show up in the next 24-48 hours. |
Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
0
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Posted - 2012.01.23 07:17:00 -
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Katherine Starlight wrote:incursions are decreasing the value of ISK, which is something CSM and CCP are striving towards.
they are all politician, they force **** down your throat and you love it because you don't know any better than believing their lies when the true objective is their own profit from your loss, But then again some people want to live in totalitarian dictatorship.
CSM is NOT the voice of EVE players, they are just random people up in their own ego thinking they are important.
Team BFF was the voice of the EVE players.
Highsec does not need an infinite isk-farm.
Basically. If you read the latest CSM report you'll see it's by Tech moon holders for Tech moon holders. It's all about keeping power in the hands of the few at the expense of the rest.
XXSketchxx wrote:You're literally an idiot that doesn't know what democracy is.
HAHAHAHA, the irony of this post! Not only don't you know what democracy is by thinking the CSM is some form of democracy, you also think it exists in EVE.
You really are terrible at poasting. |
gascanu
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.01.23 07:23:00 -
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XXSketchxx wrote:gascanu wrote: i really don't get all this hate about incursions; at least ppl are "working" for they're isk, not booting like some of the 0.0 "ellite pvpers" do... also speaking about "too much isk" : that's a tiny bit from what some large alliance are getting from moon mining; getting a PASSIVE income of several trillions isk/month ,now that is something worth of being fixed, not john doe doind 2-3 hundred millions/day. haha you think incursions are work also confirming no effort goes in to claiming moons, they just sort of fall into the laps of their owners
haha you think that warping a carrier in anomalies is work....
also confirming that joining a HUGE napfest to get/keep moons is effort
p.s: i also think that farming anomalies with titans/supers is hard work. |
Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
0
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Posted - 2012.01.23 07:30:00 -
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Ispia Jaydrath wrote:You mean aside from the parts where: Quote:The CSM spoke critically of the technetium bottleneck and the need to rebalance moon income. The CSM noted that alliance income should be tied more closely to actually possessing territory rather than sov-independent income sources like moons. and Quote:The CSM stated that a sovholding allianceGÇÖs primary income should stem from the territory itself, such as the taxation of line memberGÇÖs ratting income or Planetary Interaction, rather than from sovless income sources such as moons. The CSM noted that there is too much emphasis on moons, particularly technetium, as a source of alliance income. So anyway, you are incredibly bad at the internet.
And this part
Quote:The CSM proposed adding R32 Alchemy as a possible fix for the Technetium bottleneck.
NOOOOOOOOO, dun nerf our Tech moonz  |
Khanh'rhh
One Man Rodgering
645
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Posted - 2012.01.23 10:56:00 -
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gascanu wrote:haha you think that warping a carrier in anomalies is work.... also confirming that joining a HUGE napfest to get/keep moons is effort p.s: i also think that farming anomalies with titans/supers is hard work.
Confirming taking sov and setting up intel channels happens by itself, and cannot be threatened by other alliances.
Also, a "non invasion pact" does not mean "do not shoot my ratting Nyx pact" since, you know, that's exactly what happens.
Non-invasion pacts are nearly exclusively due to the :effort: involved in sov mechanics and nothing to do with a desire to not shoot or be shot at.
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"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
XXSketchxx
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
121
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Posted - 2012.01.23 13:05:00 -
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Super Whopper wrote:XXSketchxx wrote:You're literally an idiot that doesn't know what democracy is. HAHAHAHA, the irony of this post! Not only don't you know what democracy is by thinking the CSM is some form of democracy, you also think it exists in EVE. You really are terrible at poasting.
You might want to look up the word "irony"
Because you're using it wrong. |
Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
62
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Posted - 2012.01.23 13:27:00 -
[240] - Quote
And you complain about people having pirate battleships.....
I mean I won't argue vanguards are a bit broken, but you can still make 60 mil/hr or better running L4's, even...it's not THAT out of line, especially compared to what you can do in sov space.... |
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