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Pepperami
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.08.30 22:19:00 -
[181]
 Originally by: Stamm
I think it's unfair to make that assumption.
CCP do not have a node that can handle 700 people fighting, and nodes can crash if they get under extreme load.
I think it's more likely that the node crashed than CCP took it down. I don't know about the dedicated node. It could be a false rumour, or CCP could mean they'll do it at DT, or it could mean CCP can do it "on the fly".
We were informed of this just before the node went down via a petition.
A-WAR might be Recruiting!
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bluechimera
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.08.30 22:19:00 -
[182]
Ive been reloading my guns for about 15minutes now =(
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Mourning Starr
FireStar Inc
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.30 22:20:00 -
[183]
I 110% expected this to happen, someone please remind me why I play this game 
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Graph ro
Aquilae Stellaris
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.08.30 22:20:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Stamm
Originally by: Graph ro
So we had this gatecamp with a capital fleet and 200ish support on it.
What happened :
1) hostiles jump in, local goes up to 650-700
2) can hardly see any hostiles for like half an hour, a few ceptors appear and blow up
3) half of the hostiles have loaded, we still haven't but we wait
4) finally we start loading a few hostile ships! yay! i start killing stuff after being a sitting duck with my carrier for 40 minutes
5) after 5 minutes, ccp decided to crash the node to move us to a dedicated node. In the middle of a battle. What a good idea.
6) hostiles are somehow faster to login so they formup first and pick up our people logging in back at the gate.
7) the capitals who logged in at the gate, well they were staring still at the black screen, get killed.
Now why did ccp put the node down during a battle. Do it before or after it, why do it in the middle of a battle. That's just plain wrong.
I'm keeping smack out of this thread. It's just sad for everyone, both sides.
I think it's unfair to make that assumption.
CCP do not have a node that can handle 700 people fighting, and nodes can crash if they get under extreme load.
I think it's more likely that the node crashed than CCP took it down. I don't know about the dedicated node. It could be a false rumour, or CCP could mean they'll do it at DT, or it could mean CCP can do it "on the fly".
In any case it can't handle the number of people there, and nobody is at fault. You can't blame people for bringing other people.
Unless either CCP can change Eve so that the game can handle any size blob. Or the game is changed so that it isn't always beneficial to add more people to the blob, then the situation will continue.
Not an assumption. There were petitions filed and answered. I'm not blaming anyone for bringing numbers, that's how the game works.
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Stamm
Amarr
GALAXIAN
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.30 22:21:00 -
[185]
Originally by: Pepperami
Originally by: Stamm
I think it's unfair to make that assumption.
CCP do not have a node that can handle 700 people fighting, and nodes can crash if they get under extreme load.
I think it's more likely that the node crashed than CCP took it down. I don't know about the dedicated node. It could be a false rumour, or CCP could mean they'll do it at DT, or it could mean CCP can do it "on the fly".
We were informed of this just before the node went down via a petition.
I heard the same, despite all the incompetence from GMs etc, I really hope they're not dumb enough to pull a node like this.
Galaxian Recruitment Info |
GreGh Rakrot
Naughty 40
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Posted - 2007.08.30 22:21:00 -
[186]
Stonie001101 > according to my deathmail, i killed my own rapier in a raven
if he doesnt get his ship back then i dont know who will ....
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Darknesss
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.08.30 22:22:00 -
[187]
there was no fight before the node was taken down, we couldnt get in. out of 100 of our snipers 0 could actually see anything.
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NSA LOC'THAR
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Posted - 2007.08.30 22:22:00 -
[188]
great work i wonder why do we still pay to play this game i sould be payed for my nerves at this point u ccp guys realy need to do something and stop apologizing cause i'm sick of your apologize u don't accept my apologize when i don't pay the account in time
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Plague Rexus
Gallente
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.08.30 22:22:00 -
[189]
if people hadnt already realised, everything thats died tonight will be reimbursed.
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NSA Bivas
Gallente
Viper Squad
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.08.30 22:23:00 -
[190]
great work i wonder why do we still pay to play this game i sould be payed for my nerves at this point u ccp guys realy need to do something and stop apologizing cause i'm sick of your apologize u don't accept my apologize when i don't pay the account in time
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Henze
Rens 911
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Posted - 2007.08.30 22:25:00 -
[191]
Originally by: Plague Rexus
if people hadnt already realised, everything thats died tonight will be reimbursed.
hahahahahaha *wipes tear*
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Shirei
Minmatar
Cutting Edge Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.08.30 22:27:00 -
[192]
Originally by: Plague Rexus
if people hadnt already realised, everything thats died tonight will be reimbursed.
Just like people were reimbursed in JV1V and F-T, eh? 
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Yuto Kang
Gallente
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.08.30 22:27:00 -
[193]
Originally by: NSA Bivas
great work i wonder why do we still pay to play this game i sould be payed for my nerves at this point u ccp guys realy need to do something and stop apologizing cause i'm sick of your apologize u don't accept my apologize when i don't pay the account in time
/signed
30 minutes of logging in, 1 hours of loading grid so far and counting. Epic fail CCP, unfortunately as usual.
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Bein Glorious
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.30 22:28:00 -
[194]
I'm not involved in this fight in any direct way, but I just wanted to say that if they adjusted carrier fighters so that they produce less lag (such as simply reducing counts or whatever) situations like this might not be this bad. Though if things are as laggy as they sound, the carriers might not have been able to launch fighters anyway, unless they were out before the initial node crash.
but yeah, fix fighter spam, all i'm sayin' |
Delerium Primus
M. Corp
M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.08.30 22:30:00 -
[195]
One thing i haven't seen in this thread yet is the statement "This wouldn't have happened if Tri hadn't joined in too". I DON'T want to see this. People shouldn't be penalized for joining in and numbers shouldn't be reduced if the servers can't handle it period. Can we hire NASA's supercomputer cluster for the fight plz? ;)
Del
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Yuto Kang
Gallente
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.08.30 22:32:00 -
[196]
Originally by: Delerium Primus
One thing i haven't seen in this thread yet is the statement "This wouldn't have happened if Tri hadn't joined in too". I DON'T want to see this. People shouldn't be penalized for joining in and numbers shouldn't be reduced if the servers can't handle it period. Can we hire NASA's supercomputer cluster for the fight plz? ;)
Del
You dont want this arguement to come up, so you bring it up yourself? I see ...
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NOObbody
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.08.30 22:32:00 -
[197]
Originally by: Plague Rexus
if people hadnt already realised, everything thats died tonight will be reimbursed.
Well the capitals were under control of their pilots, they tanked and sent drones on me...
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Grath Telkin
Amarr
STK Scientific
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Posted - 2007.08.30 22:32:00 -
[198]
Probably the dumbest thing posted here, but in all this, i find it mildly insulting that we cant get a moderator, or dev of ANY kind to post any form of response. 700+ of their players are being totally screwed right now, and they cant bring themselves here to address us directly...
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eleuthereus
Gallente
The Wild Hunt
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.30 22:33:00 -
[199]
LOL - 2 1/2 hours of black screen. And FINALLY back in -- I'm not dead. lol. Ahh, what a day. Condolensces to all around, friend and foe alike.
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Naomi Wildfire
Amarr
Stardust Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.30 22:36:00 -
[200]
Originally by: Plague Rexus
if people hadnt already realised, everything thats died tonight will be reimbursed.
hopefully my wasted playtime too
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Gentle Glide
Naughty 40
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.08.30 22:37:00 -
[201]
Logging in is kewl.
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Originally by: CCP t20
So Let us play and enjoy the game you and I both love on the same level.
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xBlood
Exanimo Inc
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.08.30 22:37:00 -
[202]
Originally by: eleuthereus
Edited by: eleuthereus on 30/08/2007 21:48:24
Edited by: eleuthereus on 30/08/2007 21:48:03
Edited by: eleuthereus on 30/08/2007 21:47:47
Originally by: xBlood
Mpire/Fatal and friends, I hope there will be no chest beating from you. Both sides are completely crippled by this...
And yet we have this from Razor.
hangnoose
Caldari
DAB
RAZOR Alliance
2nd carrier down
third carrier going down now...
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Central Scrutinizer
RAZOR Alliance
Hostile capitals are going down.
3 carriers and a dread are dead, so far.
xBlood, let's hope Razor/Tri and friends heed your words as well.
I can only hope they will.
Mpire/fatal/cow got extremely unlucky today. Node crashed with their capitals on the gate. When logging back in, only a small portion of their fleet was able to get back in.
Thus their capitals were relatively defenseless. CCP is at fault here.
Unlucky to mpire/fatal/cow, but we all know this is a small loss for you 
I managed to fraps the entire fight after the node crash, and so when a movie is published with it in, you will see how one sided the fight was.
Now: Let's keep this smack free and civil.
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Audri Fisher
Caldari
VentureCorp
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.08.30 22:44:00 -
[203]
Originally by: bluechimera
Ive been reloading my guns for about 15minutes now =(
Ammar ftw
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Sin Angel
Caldari
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.08.30 22:56:00 -
[204]
Originally by: Audri Fisher
Originally by: bluechimera
Ive been reloading my guns for about 15minutes now =(
Ammar ftw
Nerf amarr tbfh
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slothe
Caldari
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.08.30 22:56:00 -
[205]
when the game lags with 200+ people, what do you expect with 650+?.....
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Martin Mckenna
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.08.30 22:58:00 -
[206]
Originally by: slothe
when the game lags with 200+ people, what do you expect with 650+?.....
to sit and play pong waiting to log in
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Stamm
Amarr
GALAXIAN
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.30 22:59:00 -
[207]
Originally by: slothe
when the game lags with 200+ people, what do you expect with 650+?.....
Why is it in every big fleet op thread there's always some guy saying bring less.
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Manus Ater
M. Corp
M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.08.30 23:00:00 -
[208]
I agree with every person, both friendly and hostile, in this thread who thinks that all of what happened is absolutely ********. Hopefully petitions are successful for everyone here.
Originally by: Plague Rexus
next time i will just pay to stare at a blank piece of paper, occasionally getting frustrated, screwing up the paper and getting a new sheet.
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.08.30 23:07:00 -
[209]
Massive disaster.
Before the node reinforcement or crash, enemies and friends almost couldn't see eachother, couldn't fight or even issue commands that were executed in under 5 minutes. But at least lag hit both sides and almost nothing was killed.
Then node down, node reinforcement. After logging back in after an eternity, lag was still extreme.
My ship was about 10 AU out and I issuing commands that still took like 5 minutes. I warped to the gate, expected similar numbers there, because everyone was trying to log back in immediately and get back to the gate and fight.
I reached the gate and there was nothing, but I was shot. Tryed to issue commands, but well, maybe 5 minutes later my ship would have reacted to that. Got more and more damage and then I died.
Later I loaded the grid and saw 130-150 enemies, but only 1 friend. Everyone of us tried to log back in as fast as possible and get to the gate, yet there were already 150 people waiting. Dunno if they came from a neighboring system and had it easier to get into the system after the crash again, but it was stupid.
Btw 5 minutes later I was still cruising around in my wrecked vagabond with half of the modules removed and didn't see a killmail. Ok, the whole mail folder wasn't loaded.
I petitioned via website, but couldn't select the lost ship there. Didn't show up. ^^
The node 'reinforcement' ended in a desaster, several capitals died after logging back in and stuff like that.
It was just BS in another sense than battleship. ;)
Ok, that was the BKG fight from my perspective. Thanks.
P.S.: I wanted to supply screenshots of an unresponding orbitting vagabond being raped by a gost enemy over minutes and finally of the loaded grid with a destroyed burning vagabond still cruising around for minutes, but I was too lazy to edit the chat channels out. ^^)
That's it, rant over. Welcome to the node crash lottery. 
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Nagilam
Minmatar
Quam Singulari
M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.08.30 23:07:00 -
[210]
Tonight we suffered from the absurd lag, node crash, 'cant log back in' etc....while our foes, who obviously also suffered this abomination, were a little more fortunate to still get a good portion of thier fleet in and loaded up.
Sad thing is that what happened today (and has happened previously and will happen again) wont change - the game mechanice simply CANNOT handle these type of engagements. CCP will never admit it, but we all know. 2 and half hours later and im still at black screen 'Entering Game'.
Genuine comiserations to all the players who suffered this (i did while in LV against Goons).
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