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Baun
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Posted - 2004.02.10 06:48:00 -
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Blatant land grab or not I sincerely doubt CFS will be able to much, if anything about it.
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Tyrion Nydaerin
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Posted - 2004.02.10 06:55:00 -
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Edited by: Tyrion Nydaerin on 10/02/2004 06:55:56
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   i heard FA arent very good at capturing stations. I heard they decided to charge over 120 mil for battleship docking, undocked and couldnt get back in for a while.
Hehe, that was me, of course it hadnt occured to me the station would charge its own owner to dock ...
By the way, when I captured this station for AFDT, it was owned by SERPENTIS corp, so don't y'all start saying we stole it from some CFS member
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CT BadIronTree
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Posted - 2004.02.10 06:58:00 -
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hehe m0o realy want this war to happend... so it put oil in the fire (as we say in greece)
hehe good lack
after new stagates...
CFS has FA and SA as problem...
FA dont get some love (no stations)
CA is with no problem...
BUT Xetic is f***ed
from one way in
now they are 5-6 lol
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Friday Dillinja
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Posted - 2004.02.10 07:07:00 -
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LOL, this almost reminds me of morkts crusade against TTI. Good to see he has a new arch enemy.
Oh... and next time someone wants to hire m0o, maybe get a loan from xanadu first? 
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.02.10 07:20:00 -
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the reason why Fountain didnt get any overtakeable stations is couse u already have stations in ur region... EVE is turning into Chaos, power hungry ppl like the ppl in FA want to "expand"! The Stations Wars have just began...
"We brake for nobody"
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FZappa
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Posted - 2004.02.10 07:43:00 -
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the reason why Fountain didnt get any overtakeable stations is couse u already have stations in ur region... EVE is turning into Chaos, power hungry ppl like the ppl in FA want to "expand"! The Stations Wars have just began...
i wasnt aware regions with stations did not
get any new ones . does that mean curse , stain
and venal did not get any takeable stations ?
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.02.10 08:02:00 -
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i wasnt aware regions with stations did not
get any new ones . does that mean curse , stain
and venal did not get any takeable stations ?
Yes, only regions devoid of stations got them, 3 in each region, one for factories, one for refining and one for cloning.
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FZappa
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Posted - 2004.02.10 08:10:00 -
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Edited by: FZappa on 10/02/2004 08:20:25
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Yes, only regions devoid of stations got them, 3 in each region, one for factories, one for refining and one for cloning.
hmm , but then CA has 3+ ?
CFS has 3
FA has ... 0 ? :p
dont suppose they want to share eh ;)
(i mean prepatch non station regions ofc)
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.02.10 08:28:00 -
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Morkt really must be commended for his roleplaying of J. Jonah Jameson (Spiderman's editor) as the angry crazy out-to-get-the-world editor of a self-admitted biased publication (EVE Guardian who has some fine stories and some seriously bent stories worthy of the Grimm's).
Delve is on FA's doorstep, it is far away from CFS space after the introduction of backland highways.
CFS had not announced the regions below Khanid to be closed. Nor did the FA. The FA got to these stations first and claimed them. Everyone had the opportunity to do this as the shields were not up at the time.
The FA diplomats have stated that talks with CFS were going well until Morkt entered and started spouting his hate.
Now the only logical reason Morkt really has for going to a war is because he wants to blow stuff up. It is not in the interest of CFS to make new enemies while they are being manhandled by m0o. Yet that is what Morkt wanted and seems to have gotten.
Morkt has here on these very pages said bluntly that he is about to go on a rampage to make XAN, BIG and the FA look bad.
So why should the words of a man bent on fullfilling either his role as a crazy editor (RPG) or role of a man with a bruised ego and tons of anomity towards others be believed?
Why should Morkt's ravings (because his posts are chockafull of anger, hence my comment on finesse) be taken seriously by the other EVE players?
Does his power as a publisher make his words and self-admitted biased "reporting" (editorials or opinion pieces actually) more valuable?
You know it just might be that way, for those not present at these scenes and only reading Morkts spin (biased reporting most certainly is a spin).
Here's a warning people, Morkt has his own agenda and is not afraid of bending every tool he knows to have it fullfilled. Just because you read it on the "news" doesn't make it true.
Now back to where things happen for real...
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.02.10 08:52:00 -
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Edited by: Talon SilverHawk on 10/02/2004 08:56:40
Edited by: Talon SilverHawk on 10/02/2004 08:56:22
Edited by: Talon SilverHawk on 10/02/2004 08:53:20
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Why not just admit it? "Yeah we want Delve so stfu."
We want to be *in* Delve - not take it over.
We've even offered us self as military partners to the CFS in that area.
And you totally failed to adress my implied question.
We have played it by the book - and even offered assistence.
Which 'CFS law' has the FA broken?
You wanted nothing to do with CFS before those stations appear then you invade take the stations and then turn round and say "we want to be military partners"
Just so transparent.
This has nothing to do with Morkt spin. Whtas happened is whats happened FA are in CFS space full stop.
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.02.10 09:01:00 -
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i would like to know what will happen now! another war maybe? will u bring allies? teLL Meh SOmEtHING!!
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.02.10 09:03:00 -
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on a second glimpse all officials from CFS have been very polite and stateing their interests and intentions, while EF deliberately threw sticks between their legs and tried to stirr up the situation by useing force and trying to hire "help".
A fact maybe unimportant for most ppl is that those stations are new and therefore were not included in any landclaims the cfs might have made.
On a second look the landclaims regarding the region in question are also abit shallow because so far it was underdeveloped and unused due to the lack of infrastructure and additionally even on their OWN website they state no claim on this region in their public show of influencespheres.
Additionally there is always a sharp gasp between claiming and pocessing something.
One necessarily leads not to the other, even in the completely wrong used juristical terms some ppl try to apply to this situation.
Sorry the new stations are in CFS space we dont need to reclaim the stations. The above is lawyer talk.Delve/FIX has always been claimed by CFS. Ok next time a station pops up in FA space we are welcome to come down and claim it then ?
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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Tyrion Nydaerin
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Posted - 2004.02.10 09:05:00 -
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2004.02.10 09:07:00 -
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Just a thought. If you're so keen on being friends during all this negotiating, why take the stations, lock down all offices and put docking fees so high no-one can use em?
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"The main point is that no matter what everyone in our region remains free to travel, fight npcs and mine in peace anywhere CFS has influence."
But not at these stations in CFS protectorate space cause of the charges FA has levied.
Ach Well, now it seems FA'll have to have a military presence in CFS protectorate space to protect their stations drawing away support from their home bases in Fountain. You wonder why people don't just stick to the area they claimed origonally instead of getting greedy.
FA Guy 1> "Hey, look! new stations! lets take them!"
FA Guy 2> "But guys, we already have stations in 0.0 don't we?"
FA Guy 1> "Yeah, but we don't have THOSE ones!"
FA Guy 2> "But aren't they in another alliances territory?"
FA Guy 1> "Yeah? oh... hey, look, if we take them and then say we're not taking the space around them, then we can try and claim the moral high ground!"
FA Guy 2> "Couldn't we ask them if we could have some offices first?"
FA Guy 1> "Hell no, we want ALL those offices!"
FA Guy 2> "Errr... why?"
FA Guy 1> "Because.....they are a strategic stopping off point in preventing incursions into FA space from CFS as they are a dictatorial expansionistic buch of asshats. And besides, we wanted them. so ya boo sucks to them. :P"
FA Guy 2> "Ohhh... you big liar. :)"
FA Guy 1> "Yeah, I know, great isn't it? Hey, look, an EF station, lets go take trhat too!"
FA Guy 2> *rolls eyes*
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IcedBach Jr
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Posted - 2004.02.10 09:15:00 -
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FA does not have any stations since they are all owned by pirate orgs and therefore tax stupidly refining for those with low ratings with the npc pirate orgs. All alliances have gotten stations because they have claimed so many regions for example the arses in CA. FA has conducted a fair policy of protecting Fountain and leaving other regions relatively alone. Now that the stations are in game FA has all right to expand so it can have at least one of those stations. CA for example has gotten about 9 or even more because they have claimed most of .0 space. CFS will never be able to protect all the regions they have claimed so just leave be. If U dont then CFS will most certainly become a past.
This is my personal view and does not reflect anything else.
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Celebon
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Posted - 2004.02.10 09:20:00 -
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Edited by: Celebon on 10/02/2004 09:21:10
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FA does not have any stations since they are all owned by pirate orgs and therefore tax stupidly refining for those with low ratings with the npc pirate orgs. All alliances have gotten stations because they have claimed so many regions for example the arses in CA. FA has conducted a fair policy of protecting Fountain and leaving other regions relatively alone. Now that the stations are in game FA has all right to expand so it can have at least one of those stations. CA for example has gotten about 9 or even more because they have claimed most of .0 space. CFS will never be able to protect all the regions they have claimed so just leave be. If U dont then CFS will most certainly become a past.
This is my personal view and does not reflect anything else.
FA Guy 2> "But guys, we already have stations in 0.0 don't we?"
FA Guy 1> "Yeah, but we don't have THOSE ones!"
FA Guy 2> "But aren't they in another alliances territory?"
FA Guy 1> "Yeah? oh... hey, look, if we take them and then say we're not taking the space around them, then we can try and claim the moral high ground!"
*chuckles*
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Nicholas Marshal
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Posted - 2004.02.10 09:28:00 -
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Edited by: Nicholas Marshal on 10/02/2004 09:31:22
We should not beat about the bush here. What FA has done is akin to N.a.z.i Germany annexing the Sudetenland.
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FZappa
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Posted - 2004.02.10 09:43:00 -
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Edited by: FZappa on 10/02/2004 09:46:49
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We should not beat about the bush here. What FA has done is akin to N.a.z.i Germany annexing the Sudetenland.
excuse me ?
as someone who lost family to the ****s , im
highly offended you compare actions in a pc game
to those of the **** . 
i will now love nothing better then to
go to war with you , just for this comment.
be seeing you around .
greedy CFS wants to have 4 regions claimed ,
fine . just a tiny bit of pressure to the CFS
corps who are content with having only
3 to work on , and you will be falling apart .
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Nicholas Marshal
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Posted - 2004.02.10 09:47:00 -
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Highly offended you may be, but the truth of my comparison is clear for all to see.
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Fred0
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Posted - 2004.02.10 09:49:00 -
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Edited by: Fred0 on 10/02/2004 09:51:33
Crappy RL analogies won't get you far.
What you are doing is akin to what Goebbels did most of his time.
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Extravagant
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Posted - 2004.02.10 09:51:00 -
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You wanted nothing to do with CFS before those stations appear then you invade take the stations and then turn round and say "we want to be military partners"
Just so transparent.
This has nothing to do with Morkt spin. Whtas happened is whats happened FA are in CFS space full stop.
Tal
With all your semi-intelligent arguments using your law, you're still not a very bright fella.
FA and CFS were 60+ jps apart, now they are 1 jp apart. Let's face it. Both FA and CFS have the same right on Delve region. FA previously didn't "claim" it cause they were not connected. Now they are, and FA moved in a part of their forces.
Honestly, you are forced to work together or face the consequences of a long and hard war.
Your choice, but I don't think the CFS can fight off the FA.
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StoreSlem
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Posted - 2004.02.10 09:51:00 -
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Edited by: StoreSlem on 10/02/2004 09:57:52
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FA Guy 1> "Hey, look! new stations! lets take them!"
FA Guy 2> "But guys, we already have stations in 0.0 don't we?"
FA Guy 1> "Yeah, but we don't have THOSE ones!"
FA Guy 2> "But aren't they in another alliances territory?"
FA Guy 1> "Yeah? oh... hey, look, if we take them and then say we're not taking the space around them, then we can try and claim the moral high ground!"
FA Guy 2> "Couldn't we ask them if we could have some offices first?"
FA Guy 1> "Hell no, we want ALL those offices!"
FA Guy 2> "Errr... why?"
FA Guy 1> "Because.....they are a strategic stopping off point in preventing incursions into FA space from CFS as they are a dictatorial expansionistic buch of asshats. And besides, we wanted them. so ya boo sucks to them. :P"
FA Guy 2> "Ohhh... you big liar. :)"
FA Guy 1> "Yeah, I know, great isn't it? Hey, look, an EF station, lets go take trhat too!"
FA Guy 2> *rolls eyes*
No, it was not all like that.
It was more like:
Bizarre> Hey, look! new stations!
StoreSlem> Cool, where are they?
Bizarre> In CFS protectorate.
StoreSlem> I sense a YARRRRRRRRRR
Bizarre> YARRRRRRRR
StoreSlem> YAAAAAAARRRRRRRRR
Bizarre> YARR
StoreSlem> YARR!!!1
Bizarre> YARRRRR
Reah> YARRRRR
StoreSlem> ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US
Bizarre> YARRRR
StoreSlem> YYYYYARR!
Bizarre> YARRRRR
StoreSlem> YARRRR
Bizarre> YARR
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Nicholas Marshal
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Posted - 2004.02.10 09:54:00 -
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What analogy would you use then ? Pray tell.
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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.02.10 10:02:00 -
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Tbh CFS can't defend against m0o, quite how they intend to defend against a much largergroup of pilots is beyond me.
What CFS fails to understand is, eve is about strength of force and skill in pvp. Once your in 0.0 space, all the bull plop lawyer diplomacy stuff won't help you a bit, you gotta pull out your guns and let them do the talking for you...
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Tyrion Nydaerin
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Posted - 2004.02.10 10:02:00 -
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Edited by: StoreSlem on 10/02/2004 09:57:52
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FA Guy 1> "Hey, look! new stations! lets take them!"
FA Guy 2> "But guys, we already have stations in 0.0 don't we?"
FA Guy 1> "Yeah, but we don't have THOSE ones!"
FA Guy 2> "But aren't they in another alliances territory?"
FA Guy 1> "Yeah? oh... hey, look, if we take them and then say we're not taking the space around them, then we can try and claim the moral high ground!"
FA Guy 2> "Couldn't we ask them if we could have some offices first?"
FA Guy 1> "Hell no, we want ALL those offices!"
FA Guy 2> "Errr... why?"
FA Guy 1> "Because.....they are a strategic stopping off point in preventing incursions into FA space from CFS as they are a dictatorial expansionistic buch of asshats. And besides, we wanted them. so ya boo sucks to them. :P"
FA Guy 2> "Ohhh... you big liar. :)"
FA Guy 1> "Yeah, I know, great isn't it? Hey, look, an EF station, lets go take trhat too!"
FA Guy 2> *rolls eyes*
No, it was not all like that.
It was more like:
Bizarre> Hey, look! new stations!
StoreSlem> Cool, where are they?
Bizarre> In CFS protectorate.
StoreSlem> I sense a YARRRRRRRRRR
Bizarre> YARRRRRRRR
StoreSlem> YAAAAAAARRRRRRRRR
Bizarre> YARR
StoreSlem> YARR!!!1
Bizarre> YARRRRR
Reah> YARRRRR
StoreSlem> ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US
Bizarre> YARRRR
StoreSlem> YYYYYARR!
Bizarre> YARRRRR
StoreSlem> YARRRR
Bizarre> YARR
LMFAO
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.02.10 10:19:00 -
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Quote:
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You wanted nothing to do with CFS before those stations appear then you invade take the stations and then turn round and say "we want to be military partners"
Just so transparent.
This has nothing to do with Morkt spin. Whtas happened is whats happened FA are in CFS space full stop.
Tal
With all your semi-intelligent arguments using your law, you're still not a very bright fella.
FA and CFS were 60+ jps apart, now they are 1 jp apart. Let's face it. Both FA and CFS have the same right on Delve region. FA previously didn't "claim" it cause they were not connected. Now they are, and FA moved in a part of their forces.
Honestly, you are forced to work together or face the consequences of a long and hard war.
Your choice, but I don't think the CFS can fight off the FA.
Oh and your such a clever girl. All im saying is FA can put what ever spin you want on it but its still a land grab.
Its gonna be hard for both sides
Sadly
Tal
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Nicholas Marshal
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Posted - 2004.02.10 10:29:00 -
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I look forward with great glee to mounting rapid strike attacks on FA mining vessels in CFS space.
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Jebba IV
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Posted - 2004.02.10 10:49:00 -
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.02.10 10:49:00 -
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Edited by: Riddari on 10/02/2004 10:52:35
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What analogy would you use then ? Pray tell.
The great land runs and such?
Everyone ready on starting lines and off we go, get a nice spot for yourselves.
You have a serious problem comparing overtaking empty stations to invasions that cost millions of lives.
You need perspective.
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2004.02.10 11:00:00 -
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Bizarre> Hey, look! new stations!
StoreSlem> Cool, where are they?
Bizarre> In CFS protectorate.
StoreSlem> I sense a YARRRRRRRRRR
Bizarre> YARRRRRRRR
StoreSlem> YAAAAAAARRRRRRRRR
Bizarre> YARR
StoreSlem> YARR!!!1
Bizarre> YARRRRR
Reah> YARRRRR
StoreSlem> ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US
Bizarre> YARRRR
StoreSlem> YYYYYARR!
Bizarre> YARRRRR
StoreSlem> YARRRR
Bizarre> YARR
Hey, at least you're honest about it as opposed to your FA reps, who've lied and trying to spin it.
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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