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Alski Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.11 22:23:00 - [31] Have drones automaticley restack when they are recalled to the drone bay, it SERIOUSLEY makes manageing drones in a carrier a pain in the ass where you launch a bunch of drones, then return them and you end up with something that looks like this: Hammerhead II x 40 Hammerhead II Hammerhead II Hammerhead II Hammerhead II Hammerhead II Hammerhead II Hammerhead II Hammerhead II Hammerhead II Hammerhead II Hammerhead II Hammerhead II Hammerhead II ya see how ugly that is? i never want to see that again (unless they are damaged of course, i understand that damaged drones can not stack, but for undamaged drones that REALLY makes manageing the drone menu a headache. - (combat) Patch belonging to CCP hits your drones, wrecking their liberty and freedom.
Vevva Voxtron	Posted - 2007.09.11 22:24:00 - [32] I'd like to see the option of abandoning drones. e.g. you're in a dominix and have dropped sentry drones, but are now at range of them. Would be nice to abandon the drones to launch a set of medium drones without having to scoop the first set. Also, all other weapon systems have rigs and/or modules that increase their damage output, e.g. mag stabs, bcs etc.. with the exception of drones. There should be some low slot modules available that enhance drone damage by a similiar percentage to give a bit more ship tweaking flexibility to drone-based combat pilots.
Alski Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.11 22:31:00 - [33] Oh, anouther thing based on my last post, is drone groups... When you have a drone group open on 'drones in space/distant space', and you return them, can the "drones in bay" groups please default to non-expanded, otherwise it flicks the menu around for every drone that comes in and forces you to keep scrolling to the bottom of the drone menu to see how many are still in space, and is also just pointless, i don't need to see a detailed list of the drone group that is in my bay, i need a detailed list of the ones that are still in space. - (combat) Patch belonging to CCP hits your drones, wrecking their liberty and freedom.
Alski Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.11 22:40:00 - [34] Oh one other thing (yeah i'm really loveing this thread ) allthough not drone control related, any chance of looking into webber and target painter drones, webber drones move too slowley and have too short of an activation range to be usefull in slowing anything down that is fast enouth really need webbing, they are also stacking nurfed so even a full carrier load of em will not slow there target down beyond 60%, and thats 13 of em! not just 5 like most people could hope to use, also the fact that they are heavys and not light or medium means that very few people will use them when they could have the damage output of 5 ogres. As for target painter drones... well... they are just utterley useless, mabey if they were 1m3 and there new drone bandwidth useage (if its what we think it is) was also just 1... then mabey people would use them, as it is they are quite possabley one of the top 4 most useless mods in the game. ok, thread *****age over... i'm done... for now - (combat) Patch belonging to CCP hits your drones, wrecking their liberty and freedom.
Alski Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.11 22:51:00 - [35] Oh yeah and a hitpoint buff for fighters would be nice as well, for 15-25m isk a pop, they are awefully weak esp. vs. just about any missiles except torps. umm.. and this: (quote) "- Show hp of delegated fighters !" Originally by: CCP Nozh Hey ya. Attack and follow – The fighters pursue the target if the target warps away. btw finaley makeing that an option fills me with joy... just thought i'd share that. Ok i'm really done now, sry for the spam - (combat) Patch belonging to CCP hits your drones, wrecking their liberty and freedom.
Reaper gI The .Conspiracy	Posted - 2007.09.11 23:10:00 - [36] Originally by: Alski Hammerhead II x 40 Hammerhead II Hammerhead II Hammerhead II Hammerhead II Hammerhead II Hammerhead II Hammerhead II Hammerhead II Hammerhead II Hammerhead II Hammerhead II Hammerhead II Hammerhead II ya see how ugly that is? i never want to see that again (unless they are damaged of course, i understand that damaged drones can not stack, but for undamaged drones that REALLY makes manageing the drone menu a headache. this can partly be sorted by grouping drones and not expanding the groups for the in drone bay section: mine UI normally looks closer to medium EM medium kine light kine light explo light ECM drones in space vespa II vespa II vespa II vespa II vespa II
Clansworth Point-Zero SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.12 04:14:00 - [37] Originally by: Valandril - Let us tell drones to NOT orbit but only approach (tracking issues vs static targets :\|) Orbiting a stationary object should not induce any tracking problems, as radial velocity (the speed at which the target is changing relative heading) is zero. Once in a stable orbit, the target is always at the same direction (90 deg off to one side) from your ship, so there is not tracking penalty. Prospector Class
Haffrage Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.09.12 05:03:00 - [38] See right hand link in my sig. Proposed drone UI change. Seriously, don't lop them into the module rack. That's just a terrible idea. They need their own section that ISN'T so drastically removed from the rest of our ship's, well, everything. As in not on the overview, but not its own window either. Even if it means modifying the entire setup we have now. What we have now is clunky and annoying at best. Please try to make it smooth, linear, and merged. Movable. Preferably not stuck in the center of the screen, and not the bottom. If you could move this to the top of the screen with the active tar I would love you forever, more than I do now ♥ T2 Tier 2 Battlecruisers \| Eve GUI Tweaks
M1AU The X-Trading Company Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.09.12 08:13:00 - [39] Originally by: Laendra Originally by: M1AU Originally by: Laendra Originally by: CCP Nozh Assist Allows you to assign your drones to a gang mate, the drones will follow the gang mate around and attack everything he attacks Hmmm, so if your gang-mate goes all crazy and accidently attacks a wreck of another gang-mate (not yours, and not someone in your corp), as often happens in mission gangs, and your drones attack that wreck do you also get the aggression and CONCORD-idioted? In the same vein, what if he attacks a corp mate of his (and you aren't in the same corp), does CONCORD come after you? Oh, what happens when he turns your own drone against you? Sure, you could regain control, but do you get CONCORD-idioted because you attacked yourself? Does he get CONCORD-idioted for attacking you with your own drones? Does the EVE Universe reset via the paradox???? Well, you realize that this applies for carriers which assigns fighters only? Last time i checked they weren't able to enter "safe" empire space. Anyway, gang/corp/allianz members should not get attacked of assigned fighters. How did you come to that conclusion...based on the order that the information was presented in the OP, it looks like new functionality is being added to standard drones... Originally by: CCP Nozh New Drone Commands: Guard Allows you to assign your drones to a gang mate, the drones will follow the gang mate around and attack everything that attacks him. Assist Allows you to assign your drones to a gang mate, the drones will follow the gang mate around and attack everything he attacks I'm not quite sure but after reading it the third time it looks like you were correct It just stands slightly below the Fighters only: tag, so I thought... well you know... Someone should explain it again.
Haffrage Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.09.12 08:32:00 - [40] Also, a disown key. If my ogres are 50km away and suddenly I'm blobbed, all that's holding me here is a ceptor, I want to be able to cut my ogres and drop some warriors and get myself the hell out of there. T2 Tier 2 Battlecruisers \| Eve GUI Tweaks
Ruato Gallente Gurgleblaster Industries	Posted - 2007.09.12 08:35:00 - [41] Firstly: One possible way to improve drone UI Secondly: Currently drones attack anything pretty much randomly which leads to drone micromanagement. So would be more than helpful if you add selectable AI profile for drones that forces them to attack only certain sized targets and ignore everything else. If i select frigate only attack profile for drones, they attack frigs only. If i select cruisers, they could either attack cruisers only, or UP TO cruisers (ie: kill frigs and cruisers). Thirdly: Make it so that drones always attack as a group instead of spreading their dps all over the place. (currently they spread out on 5 different targets after killing something which leads to drone micromanagement) thats all, kthxbye. --- *Get rid of those bleeping secure containers. bleep!*
Liu	Posted - 2007.09.12 09:16:00 - [42] i am not sure if this thread is the place for this, but here it goes: - reduce launch/scoop drones lag - update drone's stats according to skills when they get fitted on the drone bay - add hotkeys for drone management - disengage drone control panel from overview - add "abbandon drone" option - add "self-destruction" option, so that the drone acts like a mobile one-time-only smart bomb - let us use logistic drones on our own ship - although it is not exactly a drone mechanism, it is stupid that heavy drones missed more shots when the target is webbed than when it is not (really confusing tracking engine) - after killing a target, force all drones to attack the same new target
Augeas	Posted - 2007.09.12 10:07:00 - [43] Can we get rid of the "instant-drone-shield recharge" thingy upon scooping? It's really annoying when, after spending 30 damped seconds trying to lock the bloody thing, you take it to half shield and it's promptly scooped and redeployed with its damage magically repaired...
Alski Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.12 11:10:00 - [44] Originally by: Reaper gI this can partly be sorted by grouping drones and not expanding the groups for the in drone bay section: mine UI normally looks closer to medium EM medium kine light kine light explo light ECM drones in space vespa II vespa II vespa II vespa II vespa II Well of course i use drone groups! it would impossable to manage 1k+ drones without them the problem is that if a drone group for drones in space are open, when you recall them it opens the drone group in your bay as well, if you have a load of drones in a group unstacked that leads to a list a mile long, meaning i have to scroll up through them all to find the drone group, and minimize it so i can then - After even more scrolling down, find my drones in space so i can keep an eye on them. If i have 50 drones in a group, and they have ALL become unstacked due to constant relaunching and scooping as will almost certainley happen in a long fleet battle, that leads to a HUGE amount of scrolling that shouldent happen for 2 reasons: 1- Drones should automaticley restack in the list. 2- A drone group that is open in "drones in space" and are then scooped, should not automaticley reopen a group of "drone in bay", the "drones in bay" group should remain closed unless i open it myself. - (combat) Patch belonging to CCP hits your drones, wrecking their liberty and freedom.

CCP Nozh	Posted - 2007.09.12 11:38:00 - [45] Lots of good ideas, lots of pretty bad ones also.. There seems to be a bit of confusion regarding the "new drone commands" this would apply to all drones. Of course we'd restrict them somehow, for example: òThe drones must be in the owners drone reach òIf the drone owner warps away the drones stop working òIf the gang mate dies the drones return and orbit òIf the gang mate warps away the drones return and orbit òYou cannot tell your drones to guard/assist a pod òDrones will not attack if the target is not a valid target to the owner Concerning the drone settings, aggressive mode is basically how they behave today, perhaps adding a "always focus fire" option is a good idea. When you think you've got a good idea, stop and think what it would do for game balance. Like allowing logistic drones to target yourself, also think of the fun factor..making drones automatically repair a gang member in need is too idiot proof and no fun. Keep the ideas coming! Nozh Game Designer CCP Games

Ellaine TashMurkon MetaForge Ekliptika	Posted - 2007.09.12 11:39:00 - [46] Drones cannot automatically stack in donr bay because they can be damaged. But stacking undamaged and marking damaged as such, would be great :)
Haerana The Republican Guard The Sundering	Posted - 2007.09.12 11:39:00 - [47] Originally by: Alski Well of course i use drone groups! it would impossable to manage 1k+ drones without them the problem is that if a drone group for drones in space are open, when you recall them it opens the drone group in your bay as well, if you have a load of drones in a group unstacked that leads to a list a mile long, meaning i have to scroll up through them all to find the drone group, and minimize it so i can then - After even more scrolling down, find my drones in space so i can keep an eye on them. If i have 50 drones in a group, and they have ALL become unstacked due to constant relaunching and scooping as will almost certainley happen in a long fleet battle, that leads to a HUGE amount of scrolling that shouldent happen for 2 reasons: 1- Drones should automaticley restack in the list. 2- A drone group that is open in "drones in space" and are then scooped, should not automaticley reopen a group of "drone in bay", the "drones in bay" group should remain closed unless i open it myself. I feel your painnnn. im glad its not just me :( And my overview is basically 1/2 of my screen height the rest is drones... oh except the buggy fleet interface and broadcast which constantly fkin maximizes without actually doing so. enter new system or whatever and blam it bumps itself open with blankness so when u try and shut it to get room back it opens so u gotta then shut it then extend dronebay down again. which wastes god knows how much time. grrrrrrr
Macmuelli Gallente Gallente Mercantile Exchange Coalition Of Empires	Posted - 2007.09.12 11:43:00 - [48] More comfort in stations like setting groups there. "drone racks- for all sizes - combined with a repair bonus on drones if they are back" It takes ages setting groups in space if u scroll down for them in overview ( carrier). If u coud open in stations these "racks" and place drones inside u coud easy setting groups in stations then. Limited "drone rack slots" for all ship types. Reducing 5 drones u can see now in space to 1 drone group. Same dmg like 5/ same hitpoints etc... just only reduced objects in space. A mothership coud have max 5 drones groups then. 4x 5 + 1 x 3 "Seperate drone buttons ( group related)" which coud be activated like guns. -push on it will open commands Plz take all drone commands from the actualy overview. Command settings on drones. (skill based via warfare skills) ( drone warfare - drone warfare specialist)( inreased the coordination of your drones) Like : define which kind of ship he had to target first. frigs-> cruisers->bs... etc. So drones coud be setted which ships they kill first. No clue about if this coud be possible and worth coding it. soem ideas breg mac "Ein jeder ernte Ruhm auf seine Weise.....Gunnar von Hlidarendi "
Ruato Gallente Gurgleblaster Industries	Posted - 2007.09.12 12:46:00 - [49] Oh, and remember to add those salvage/loot drones in game while youre at it :p --- *Get rid of those bleeping secure containers. bleep!*
Macmuelli Gallente Gallente Mercantile Exchange Coalition Of Empires	Posted - 2007.09.12 13:47:00 - [50] Reload drones? like reolad ammu on guns. Drones shoud be automaticly reloaded( skillbased). "Ein jeder ernte Ruhm auf seine Weise.....Gunnar von Hlidarendi "
Laendra	Posted - 2007.09.12 14:03:00 - [51] Option to allow automatic grouping in our drone control windows would be awesome. For instance, automatically group EW drones, logistics drones, combat drones, etc. -------------------
Hugh Ruka Caldari Free Traders	Posted - 2007.09.12 14:03:00 - [52] Edited by: Hugh Ruka on 12/09/2007 14:05:16 my spit in the ocean: 1. make the grouped drones finaly ACT LIKE A GROUP. the only reason to group drones is to have some kind of inventory in the dronebay. launched drones NEVER EVER act like they are part of a group. 2. repair option for drones in bay. create a drone repair module for high slot. when drones are in bay, you can mark the damaged ones for repair. module takes cap and repairs drone after drone till there are no marked drones left. this should be slower than any existing remote repping. drone being repaired cannot be launched and module cannot be turned off/offlined if there are drones marked for repair. 3. defualt behavior selector when there are no commands. basicaly a selector for return and orbit or return to dronebay if the drones are out of commands and in one of the command only modes (default should be return and orbit). for example if the assigned player dies/warps etc. 4. Abandon drones button/option would come VERY handy. Will the assigned drones honor ship bandwith? I mean can a Dominix f.e. assign 5 heavy drones to an Eagle (no dronebay of its own) ??? And then launch 5 more of it's own? And one last, please make all drone mods high slot so drone carriers have an alternative modules for NOS. Meds and lows are generaly more used for other things like tank and propulsion/ewar. Originally by: Aravel Thon Originally by: Nith Batoxxx Hi my alt just leanred to fly the ferox............... I am so so terribly sorry...
Altaree Red Frog Investments Blue Sky Consortium	Posted - 2007.09.12 14:57:00 - [53] I would like to see drones always able to fly in a pack instead of choosing their own individual targets. More hotkeys are always wonderful.
Macmuelli Gallente Gallente Mercantile Exchange Coalition Of Empires	Posted - 2007.09.12 21:14:00 - [54] Originally by: Haffrage Also, a disown key. If my ogres are 50km away and suddenly I'm blobbed, all that's holding me here is a ceptor, I want to be able to cut my ogres and drop some warriors and get myself the hell out of there. Woud be funny if u coud give them an " kamikaze command" like they approach the ship and explode like bombs with an ??? dmg. "Ein jeder ernte Ruhm auf seine Weise.....Gunnar von Hlidarendi "
Eka Maladay	Posted - 2007.09.12 22:15:00 - [55] Edited by: Eka Maladay on 12/09/2007 22:17:52 In my opinion. Sentry drone should have the option to follows the ship at the ship's speed. Kinda like 'attached' to the ship itself, in additional to just place down does nothing. But when trying to scope them in this situation it should have a 10 seconds 'unattach' delay. So avoid the unscope and rescope tactic which make it pretty much like a gun turret. If they warp or use MWD while sentry attached to you, they will detach and will requires you to go back and attach / scope again. There should be a way to warp back to drone you left in the field to rescope later, at least, until you jump out of the system. Why is "Drone in distant space' not used for normal drone, only fighter? Drone HP should not be buffed. That is their disadvantage. Their advantage is that they don't use cap and don't use ammo. which more then enough to off set the possibility to be destroy. Drone should also have the option to always attack the same group, having them go to 5 seperate target make no sense.
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2007.09.12 22:18:00 - [56] Drone toggle to attack incoming missiles would be super.
Eka Maladay	Posted - 2007.09.12 22:40:00 - [57] Edited by: Eka Maladay on 12/09/2007 22:46:48 This post is focusing on module and skills There probably need some module that are possible to make drone specialized, like guns. Omni is probably the only useful module beside Drone aug, Drone nav module is entirely useless since drone doesn't use mwd much anyway. Those modules need T2 variations, or at least named variations A damage increase module on high or low slot -might- be nice, to finally use some of the high slot that most drone ship don't have use for anyway. But balance might be tough. 3% damage bonus on a T1 and 5% on a T2 sound reasonable, with some reasonably demanding CPU and grid requirement, make it size specifies ( for example, a large damage mod will only give bonus to large drone, and have heavy grid requirement in line with any other battleship module) . A high slot would be reasonable and highly favorable to drone boat. Module to increase drone space might be useful for -any- ship if it is high or low. Module to repair drone inside of drone bay is a great idea as well, probably a mid slot? Allow logistic drone, or make new type of drone to -takes- damage dealt to owner's ship, but not repair owner ship's damage due to interferes with the bandwidth interface. Basically turning it into a defensive satellite, this might be something to look into as this will solve the problem of Logistic drone being useless in solo situation and all the whiners about logistic drone can't target yourself, and the balance issue if we DO allow drones to target self. Drone need tracking bonus skill. Finally, drone ships should have damage bonus on only one size of drone, either large, medium, or small, not all at once, according to the size of that ship. For example, a dominix should only have damage bonus on large drone. (This is probably going to be considered as a huge nerf)
Slax Kalimatar Minmatar Cyber Rebels	Posted - 2007.09.12 22:51:00 - [58] sounds like Guild Wars. then how about to place flags for your drones on F10 System Map?
Rogerano	Posted - 2007.09.13 01:21:00 - [59] - Ability to abandon drones, as stated elsewhere numerous times. V important for "drone only" boats. - Assist mode should be contextual to the type of drone it is applied to. Logistic drones would help target, combat drones would fight for target. - There is no "sensible" reason why logistics drones can't help the player's own ship. It's counter-intuitive that they can't. Gameplay issues regarding this need to be addressed. As an aside, fixing drones will go a long way to bringing EVE:Online out of Beta. :P
Jurgen Cartis Caldari Interstellar Corporation of Exploration	Posted - 2007.09.13 01:53:00 - [60] Make them focus fire, for god's sake. . . 5 Ogres attacking something is going to hurt, 5 Ogres attacking 5 targets is a waste of 5 perfectly good Ogres. -------------------------------------------------- ICE Blueprint Sales FIRST!! -Yipsilanti Pfft. Never such a thing as a "last chance". ;) -Rauth

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