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Xrensa
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:11:00 -
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Big fight going to happen/in progress, discuss it here.
Setup: All towers owned by bob in 0oyz are reinforced, with timers coming out at various times. The majority of them were kited and are coming out in goon prime time. 0oyz is just barely still in sov 2, if we don't take these towers today they'll have a cyno jammer and that's no fun at all. BoB has called in all of their various pets to help them since the timing for bob is kinda bad. All hell will break loose. Action is already under way.
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Mae West
Black Watch Legionnaires
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:12:00 -
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Edited by: Mae West on 14/09/2007 19:12:43 I can only assume pew pew is going on.
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mama guru
Gallente Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:12:00 -
[3]
First post of signifigance. Go goons, and have fun -YOU ARE NOW READING MY SIGNATURE-
EVE is like the "Fisherman's Friend" of MMOs. If it's too hard, you are too weak. |
MacQueen
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:14:00 -
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Woo stuck in cyno limbo for an hour. This sucks :(
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castraitory
Minmatar Sunshine Carebear Crew
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:15:00 -
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Map shows 500plus in system, guess theres lag,desync people dead before they load, usual fleet fight,guess we will have to wait till tommorrow before we know what will happen as system will be jammed for hours.
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Zathuraa
Applied Cyronics
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:15:00 -
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Summary:
Jump In. Lag.
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thoth foc
Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Xrensa All hell will break loose.
mhm.. if all hell is breaking loose, this must be serious internet ship stuff again _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) ATUK (.5.) DICE (BOB) Elcyion Lacar
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Porks
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: Zathuraa Summary:
Lag.
fixed
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papaPadla
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:20:00 -
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am i dead yet? if not i should be on the r97 gate about 150-ish off it -------------------------------------
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Xrensa
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:21:00 -
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Right now lag is so bad that people warping to belts and on gatecamps are getting killed by Angels of all things...
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Ahistaja
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:21:00 -
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Jumped in, got killed in 15 minutes before anything even loaded, been waiting for another 45 minutes for the grid for the ship to actually destroy and the pod to appear.
Scatim Helicon > NEED FOR SPEED IS A TOTAL SUCCESS QUOTE DIS IF U R DOWN
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Jaeger J
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:21:00 -
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30ish minutes of load time..... This is a horrible showing...SB ran better then this...
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Porks
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:22:00 -
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Originally by: Jaeger J 30ish minutes of load time..... This is a horrible showing...SB ran better then this...
Only 30?
45 minutes of undock time, 35 minutes of attempted cyno time which failed anyway :colbert:
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Zyta Eke
Bombshell Cartel
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: papaPadla am i dead yet?
I hate that feeling. Nothing has appeared but you know you're already dead.
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Black Jumper
Altera Odyssea Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:26:00 -
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Another wasted evening thanks to CCP.
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EdFromHumanResources
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:26:00 -
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The lag is epic. I managed to jump into system, then emergency warp to the gate, then warp to a SS all without ever loading the grid. Which apparently had a bubble and a large fleet on it. Any of you BoB folks C/D the stuff I hear about angels spawning at the gate and kicking you around a bit?
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Moon Kitten
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:29:00 -
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I have a fever and the only cure is more lag.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler You're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures
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Ahistaja
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:30:00 -
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Soiha > is a man not entitled to the loaded grid of his warps? no, says the man in iceland, it belongs to the lag
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Robet Katrix
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:30:00 -
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Several Hostile Dreads are down for sure.
lots of lag.
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Dooshotron
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:30:00 -
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I warped to gang, crashed, logged in dead but for a few minutes had a good look at field.
Confirmed TRIPLE BS SPAWN ON GATE!!11!!1.
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Roland 99
Minmatar Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:32:00 -
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No one can log in ( in 00y or any adjacent system) no can fight no one can do **** but lag. Thanks CCP. Your new server stability and performance enhancements are truly groundbreaking.....I meant serverbreaking >< ________
The only thing lower than a coward is a pet and I vow to eradicate every last one of you. |
DeadProphet
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: EdFromHumanResources Any of you BoB folks C/D the stuff I hear about angels spawning at the gate and kicking you around a bit?
confirmed
:P
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Shrike
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:33:00 -
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I see dead people.
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Wo0ki3
Caldari Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:34:00 -
[24]
Originally by: Dooshotron I warped to gang, crashed, logged in dead but for a few minutes had a good look at field.
Confirmed TRIPLE BS SPAWN ON GATE!!11!!1.
yer,
there on top on the red caps wreaks....
lootin the good stuff! :( Jih4d>Wo0ki3
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ahistaja Soiha > is a man not entitled to the loaded grid of his warps? no, says the man in iceland, it belongs to the lag
Quoted for epic.
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Elder Bob
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:34:00 -
[26]
My average command respond time over the last 20 minutes has been 3 minutes and 47 seconds. I'd think this was pretty good, if I was in the system with the fight. However, I'm not, I'm in an adjacent system where there is no combat.
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Lasakywa
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:34:00 -
[27]
HMmmlag..Mmmkay
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Jim Linger
Pyrrhus Sicarii
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:35:00 -
[28]
there is no lag in eve
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TWD
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:35:00 -
[29]
HOLY **** THE NPCS OPN THE GATE ARE JKILILIGN US ALL HEPL.
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Tomas Ysidro
Caldari Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:35:00 -
[30]
Originally by: Ahistaja Soiha > is a man not entitled to the loaded grid of his warps? no, says the man in iceland, it belongs to the lag
Best local quote of the day :D
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Nomispanco
Minmatar Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:36:00 -
[31]
Hum Meh Anable to load , anable to warp out , anable to lock , anable to shoot whos is shooting you ? Just impossible to play
-- Nomispanco --
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FowlPlayChiken
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:36:00 -
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I have 8 minute desync lag and slideshow syndrome. Balls to the enemy for jumping in. GF. may there be more to come. bawk
http://nhimebaugh.wetpaint.com/ Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
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Metal Dude
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:37:00 -
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What? There's lag in EVE? Nooooo. Can't be.
CCP: There's no evidence supporting the claim that the loss happened as a result of the malfunction of our severs/database during your reported time.
1. Try to clear up your cache.
2. Open as few applications as possible when you play EVE on your computer.
3. Shut down any P2P software which may disrupt the network connection between our sever and your client when playing EVE.
Hope that hepls. Now go away.
The truth will set you free
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Dooshotron
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:37:00 -
[34]
Massive respect for taking the chance.
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lofty29
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:37:00 -
[35]
Well I got to test my new FPS and thats all I wanted.
With 300 or so on grid, and a huge fighter, max settings + full effects on, I got 20 FPS while frapsing ---
Project Mayhem 2 |
Porks
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:38:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Dude What? There's lag in EVE? Nooooo. Can't be.
CCP: There's no evidence supporting the claim that the loss happened as a result of the malfunction of our severs/database during your reported time.
1. Try to clear up your cache.
2. Open as few applications as possible when you play EVE on your computer.
3. Shut down any P2P software which may disrupt the network connection between our sever and your client when playing EVE.
Hope that hepls. Now go away.
Oh CCP
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:39:00 -
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gg to jumping in (I lost a bet on that :$)
lol @ the whining. Reikoku Diplomatic Forums |
Tabaldak
Caldari Darklite inc
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:40:00 -
[38]
It's a trap.
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Citric Acid
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:40:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Dianabolic gg to jumping in (I lost a bet on that :$)
lol @ the whining.
We were traffic controlled. If you lost caps primarily because of that, I think you'd be a little angry.
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:41:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Tabaldak It's a trap.
Where's Ackbar when you need him?
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scally
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: Tabaldak It's a trap.
Where's Ackbar when you need him?
lagged i bet ah p00p!
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stephane devaulx
Gallente COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Dude What? There's lag in EVE? Nooooo. Can't be.
CCP: There's no evidence supporting the claim that the loss happened as a result of the malfunction of our severs/database during your reported time.
1. Try to clear up your cache.
2. Open as few applications as possible when you play EVE on your computer.
3. Shut down any P2P software which may disrupt the network connection between our sever and your client when playing EVE.
Hope that hepls. Now go away.
how doeas this influence the fact that you can't jump in a system ?
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Porks
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:44:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: Tabaldak It's a trap.
Where's Ackbar when you need him?
Trying to undock 4 systems away
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Sentinel Eeex
Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:45:00 -
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Lag is unreal.
Not bad. Not extremelly bad.
It is just unreal.
Eve - The Turn Based Strategy \o/ |
Isben Yamas
COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:46:00 -
[45]
well done bob.
Isben
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Kerkar
Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:49:00 -
[46]
I have the best story so far, on the r97 gate in my stabber, ragoon have jumped in and lag has hit, suddenly i start taking damage. I get messages up informing me the NPCs are shooting me! FS! I manage to finally warp out on fire at 50% structure. Not fired a single shot :(
Please let this be FIXED!!
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Caf
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:52:00 -
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Hit "jump" button and waited. Awhile later arrived in R97, saw nothing. Finally the health bars popped up, they were red, and I couldn't see my ship. Stuck on "boarding ship" screen as my pod loaded. A half hour later that screen was sill frozen that way and yet I had somehow moved about 300km off the gate. Never actually got to see a hostile or even the gate. Need for Speed.
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castraitory
Minmatar Sunshine Carebear Crew
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:52:00 -
[48]
There is no lag, only extra thinking time.
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Stoffer Ninjapirate
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:52:00 -
[49]
Another battle decided by complete chance due to lag. Respect to CCP for bringing it (and by it, I mean ****ty lag)
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Elder Bob
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:53:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: Tabaldak It's a trap.
Where's Ackbar when you need him?
He's probably still trying to load 2 systems from Endor.
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papaPadla
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:53:00 -
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Originally by: Porks
Originally by: Metal Dude What? There's lag in EVE? Nooooo. Can't be. CCP: There's no evidence supporting the claim that the loss happened as a result of the malfunction of our severs/database during your reported time. 1. Try to clear up your cache. 2. Open as few applications as possible when you play EVE on your computer. 3. Shut down any P2P software which may disrupt the network connection between our sever and your client when playing EVE. Hope that hepls. Now go away.
Oh CCP
YEEEEEEE i love that automated response.. the evidence is prolly hidden by the smoke coming out of the server... but
since the forums seem to be working... can we play in here? everyone writing down theyr mooves... i bet is faster than in game -------------------------------------
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Stoffer Ninjapirate
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: papaPadla
Originally by: Porks
Originally by: Metal Dude What? There's lag in EVE? Nooooo. Can't be. CCP: There's no evidence supporting the claim that the loss happened as a result of the malfunction of our severs/database during your reported time. 1. Try to clear up your cache. 2. Open as few applications as possible when you play EVE on your computer. 3. Shut down any P2P software which may disrupt the network connection between our sever and your client when playing EVE. Hope that hepls. Now go away.
Oh CCP
YEEEEEEE i love that automated response.. the evidence is prolly hidden by the smoke coming out of the server... but
since the forums seem to be working... can we play in here? everyone writing down theyr mooves... i bet is faster than in game
Ok, my support fleet is chilling in Ooy on a gate.
Your turn.
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Porks
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: papaPadla
YEEEEEEE i love that automated response.. the evidence is prolly hidden by the smoke coming out of the server... but
since the forums seem to be working... can we play in here? everyone writing down theyr mooves... i bet is faster than in game
Actually, that's not a bad comparison. Remember the old turn based strategy games, Age of Wonders etc? That had a play-by-email option where you could play a turn or two per night by exchanging the move data over email.
But then again, being able to move once per night was actually more than I was able to do today
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Cascade Welp
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:57:00 -
[54]
1. e4
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Cdr Foxbat
Vanguard Frontiers INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:57:00 -
[55]
Originally by: TWD HOLY **** THE NPCS OPN THE GATE ARE JKILILIGN US ALL HEPL.
In OOY rats farm you............
Originally by: Marduk Felzhen
Originally by: Vorian Atraties i bid my kidney...
i bid his other kidney
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Stoffer Ninjapirate
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:58:00 -
[56]
Alternatively, we can all make WoW chars and roleplay EVE battles till lag is fixed (which will be never)
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Black Jumper
Altera Odyssea Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:04:00 -
[57]
Rook King H7.
Damn, i'm still in OOY ... Wait, wait OOY ? I'M ALIVEEEE !
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FBI fofofofofofofofofof
Gallente G00NFLEET
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:04:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Vile rat I apologize to any person who joined the game based off of that shacknews article. The game is not playable. The game hasn't been playable for the past year. The game is so horribly broken that I'm stunned that we all still pay money for this pile of crap and I'm embarrassed that my name is now associated with this.
Its all bobs fault, to NOL!!!!!!!!
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Cyllaina
Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:06:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Vile rat I apologize to any person who joined the game based off of that shacknews article. The game is not playable. The game hasn't been playable for the past year. The game is so horribly broken that I'm stunned that we all still pay money for this pile of crap and I'm embarrassed that my name is now associated with this.
If people actually joined Eve over the shacknews article on becoming a super spy that rarely logs in to play the game, they deserve this lag =p
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DirtyHarry
Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:06:00 -
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Took over an hour to log on (i missed it all >.<), heard many enemy dreads go down via TS, killboards will tell the story in a few hours i'm sure.
RKK INNIT - Havo / DH |
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Stoffer Ninjapirate
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:07:00 -
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Good thing CCP chose a code that's fast to write but doesn't perform as well as others.
Oh wai......
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FowlPlayChiken
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:07:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Vile rat I apologize to any person who joined the game based off of that shacknews article. The game is not playable. The game hasn't been playable for the past year. The game is so horribly broken that I'm stunned that we all still pay money for this pile of crap and I'm embarrassed that my name is now associated with this.
hey what other game can you even have a battle with over 500 people at once?:-p
yea, was bloody laggy tho. I cooked up a sexy thai chicken while i was waiting for grid to load. it loaded a couple mins after I got back with my food. lol
http://nhimebaugh.wetpaint.com/ Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
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mama guru
Gallente Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: FowlPlayChiken I have 8 minute desync lag and slideshow syndrome. Balls to the enemy for jumping in. GF. may there be more to come. bawk
Dont bring that GF bull**** now thanks, there was no fight. Props to Coalition for jumping in tho, i got a feeling they kinda saw this coming(as bob and company aswell) -YOU ARE NOW READING MY SIGNATURE-
EVE is like the "Fisherman's Friend" of MMOs. If it's too hard, you are too weak. |
Korvin Eeex
Gallente DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:08:00 -
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Astonishing job by CCP. I am sure that your logs will show nothing wrong as usual.
50 minutes of loading - well done. Give us more T2 ships we really need them.
Lag does not exist ... It is all just a matter of perception.
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Kyodai Koga
Altera Odyssea Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:08:00 -
[65]
Thanks CCP, 1h45 of waiting in front of my loading screen, at least I've been able to watch the South Africa - England rugby match.
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Porks
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:08:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate Good thing CCP chose a code that's fast to write but doesn't perform as well as others.
Oh wai......
what are you talking about i don't see any problem with using mssql server and an interpreted language in a 39000 pcu game
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lofty29
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:09:00 -
[67]
Would you like some lag with your CapFleet? ---
Project Mayhem 2 |
Stoffer Ninjapirate
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:09:00 -
[68]
Originally by: DirtyHarry Took over an hour to log on (i missed it all >.<), heard many enemy dreads go down via TS, killboards will tell the story in a few hours i'm sure.
Story is the same as most other big battles, everyone is lagged, a fraction of the ships that jump get in, someone wins.
We should just stop the big fleet battles. have the FCs roll a dice, the lowest number self destructs their fleet. It's would be way quicker, with less lag.
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Isabel Sweet
Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:10:00 -
[69]
i died to a tempest i did not saw while shooting some enemies that were not seeing me. and i bubbled some enemy bs and i did not saw my own bubble. That sums this fight!
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Stoffer Ninjapirate
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:11:00 -
[70]
Originally by: FowlPlayChiken
Originally by: Vile rat I apologize to any person who joined the game based off of that shacknews article. The game is not playable. The game hasn't been playable for the past year. The game is so horribly broken that I'm stunned that we all still pay money for this pile of crap and I'm embarrassed that my name is now associated with this.
hey what other game can you even have a battle with over 500 people at once?:-p
yea, was bloody laggy tho. I cooked up a sexy thai chicken while i was waiting for grid to load. it loaded a couple mins after I got back with my food. lol
Lag wasn't as big a problem as only a fraction of our cap fleet being able to jump in.
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Shadowsword
COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:11:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Cdr Foxbat
In OOY rats farm you............
All too true. ------------------------------------------
What is Oomph? It the sound Amarr players makes when they get kicked in the ribs. |
Astasia Orian
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:11:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Vile rat I apologize to any person who joined the game based off of that shacknews article. The game is not playable. The game hasn't been playable for the past year. The game is so horribly broken that I'm stunned that we all still pay money for this pile of crap and I'm embarrassed that my name is now associated with this.
Posts like this warm my heart in so many ways.
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Caf
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:11:00 -
[73]
Originally by: FowlPlayChiken I cooked up a sexy thai chicken while i was waiting for grid to load. it loaded a couple mins after I got back with my food. lol
Hah I'm kinda hungry now. Post recipe please.
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:12:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Vile rat I apologize to any person who joined the game based off of that shacknews article. The game is not playable. The game hasn't been playable for the past year. The game is so horribly broken that I'm stunned that we all still pay money for this pile of crap and I'm embarrassed that my name is now associated with this.
How amusing, when the lag works in your favour (hi hi jv1v) it's "game mechanics" and "hey, it's not our fault we've got friends".
But when you get owned in the face the game is unplayable and you're suddenly "embarrassed"?
tbf, after the showing from GF tonight I'd be pretty damned embarrassed too. Unlucky. Reikoku Diplomatic Forums |
mama guru
Gallente Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:13:00 -
[75]
Well i know damn sure that im never ever flying a capital ship in a system with more then 200 people in it. -YOU ARE NOW READING MY SIGNATURE-
EVE is like the "Fisherman's Friend" of MMOs. If it's too hard, you are too weak. |
Stoffer Ninjapirate
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:14:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Vile rat I apologize to any person who joined the game based off of that shacknews article. The game is not playable. The game hasn't been playable for the past year. The game is so horribly broken that I'm stunned that we all still pay money for this pile of crap and I'm embarrassed that my name is now associated with this.
How amusing, when the lag works in your favour (hi hi jv1v) it's "game mechanics" and "hey, it's not our fault we've got friends".
But when you get owned in the face the game is unplayable and you're suddenly "embarrassed"?
tbf, after the showing from GF tonight I'd be pretty damned embarrassed too. Unlucky.
You're pretty stupid. This goes both ways. Any big battle ends up like this one, one side wins because they other is crippled by entering system, either by lag or half the capfleet crashing.
Lag isn't tolerable, it doesn't matter who wins.
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Nlewis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:15:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Vile rat I apologize to any person who joined the game based off of that shacknews article. The game is not playable. The game hasn't been playable for the past year. The game is so horribly broken that I'm stunned that we all still pay money for this pile of crap and I'm embarrassed that my name is now associated with this.
How amusing, when the lag works in your favour (hi hi jv1v) it's "game mechanics" and "hey, it's not our fault we've got friends".
But when you get owned in the face the game is unplayable and you're suddenly "embarrassed"?
tbf, after the showing from GF tonight I'd be pretty damned embarrassed too. Unlucky.
DON'T YOU SEE!?!?!?!?! OUR LAGSPLOITS HAVE FAILED US
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Lasakywa
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:15:00 -
[78]
Does CCP read this topic or any topic about lag ?
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Orangir
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:17:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Dianabolic How amusing, when the lag works in your favour (hi hi jv1v) it's "game mechanics" and "hey, it's not our fault we've got friends".
But when you get owned in the face the game is unplayable and you're suddenly "embarrassed"?
tbf, after the showing from GF tonight I'd be pretty damned embarrassed too. Unlucky.
Nice troll, a little heavy on the irrational bitterness though. Calm down.
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jeffb
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:17:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Astasia Orian
Originally by: Vile rat I apologize to any person who joined the game based off of that shacknews article. The game is not playable. The game hasn't been playable for the past year. The game is so horribly broken that I'm stunned that we all still pay money for this pile of crap and I'm embarrassed that my name is now associated with this.
Posts like this warm my heart in so many ways.
You got trolled kiddo :)
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Cythrawl
Caldari Central Defiance
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:21:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate
Originally by: DirtyHarry Took over an hour to log on (i missed it all >.<), heard many enemy dreads go down via TS, killboards will tell the story in a few hours i'm sure.
Story is the same as most other big battles, everyone is lagged, a fraction of the ships that jump get in, someone wins.
We should just stop the big fleet battles. have the FCs roll a dice, the lowest number self destructs their fleet. It's would be way quicker, with less lag.
FCs with the grid already loaded rolls with +10 added to number, then yes.
The other thing though...
Considering the hell the server's been through over the past 2 days with stability, who decides its a bright idea to jump into a system with a system so full of capitals it looks like someone went wild on the test server and dropped a bunch in space?
It's really a little mad, but that's lemming warfare for you.
Cythrawl DEFY Director Clowns Scare Me
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Originally by: Black Torment OH GOD, DROWNING IN TINFOIL.
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Vrizuh
Eve Defence Force Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:21:00 -
[82]
This thread is in dire need of troll. Never let it be said that a former resident of 0oy would allow the new owners to go lacking:
http://pics.livejournal.com/madmarty/pic/000tf9ks
Ok, chances are pretty good that that link wont work unless you have an emo/lj account. I would put the picture somewhere else but copyright infringement etc etc.
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Nackturion
Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:22:00 -
[83]
I will say in my short time of reading about battles on COAD, it does seem that every major fleet battle is won by the team with the less lagbomb. That just doesn't seem right to me :)
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:22:00 -
[84]
TONIGHT I PUT MY CAOD CLEANER TO GET SOME REST
FILTER IS OFF for a WHILE
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Cassius Hawkeye
Minmatar Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:22:00 -
[85]
Originally by: mama guru however i still doubt LV and CO wound have won simply because of how outnumberd and outgunned they were.
Maybe..but it would have been nice to have had the chance to defend JV. We all know the end of that.
In the end lag affects us all...
GJ BOB/MC/Allies -----------------------------------------
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:24:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate Lag isn't tolerable, it doesn't matter who wins.
I agree absolutely. I've always said that. However karma certainly is a *****, and you guys have used "lag" to your advantage many a time, hence my amusement at posts such as vile rats.
Of course, if you would read my post, at no point did I say that it was acceptable, but hey ho, if you're still licking those wounds I guess we can let that slide.
Sure you are, instead of complaining about the lag, you're talking about how embarrasing this is for RSF. I'm not sure why it's embarrasing for someone to have more than half their fleet unable to jump in because this game is unplayable the second you try to pvp.
It ain't embarrassing for RSF at all. We all know that Mittani has specifically said to avoid "epic" fights. TCF and RA need not be embarrassed, they play this as the game it is.
You guys don't. You take it faaaar too seriously. For "serious business", yep, you're an embarrassment.
But hey ho, your ships die like ours, and everyone else's, let's hope daddy mittani doesn't hold it against you. Reikoku Diplomatic Forums |
FowlPlayChiken
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:25:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Caf
Originally by: FowlPlayChiken I cooked up a sexy thai chicken while i was waiting for grid to load. it loaded a couple mins after I got back with my food. lol
Hah I'm kinda hungry now. Post recipe please.
this is the closest recipe i can find to what I made. cept only used a single breast, and diddnt cut it. also, used no broccoli or garlic, and added basil and a touch of sea salt.
2 whole chicken *******, skinned, boned & cut into bite-size pieces 1/2 c. peanut butter 1/2 c. water 2 tbsp. soy sauce 1 tbsp. brown sugar 2 tbsp. peanut or vegetable oil 2 or 3 cloves garlic, minced 1/2 tsp. crushed red pepper 3 to 4 c. sliced broccoli or spinach
In a small bowl, blend peanut butter, water, soy sauce and sugar; set aside. In a wok or large skillet, heat oil over high heat. Add garlic and pepper; stir-fry 30 seconds. Add chicken, stir-fry until firm and white, about 5 minutes. Add broccoli or spinach, stir-fry until bright green, about 3 minutes. Stir in peanut butter mixture. Cook, stirring constantly until sauce is smooth, about 3 minutes. Serves 4.
http://nhimebaugh.wetpaint.com/ Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
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Ulesi
FinFleet Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:25:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate
You're pretty stupid. This goes both ways. Any big battle ends up like this one, one side wins because they other is crippled by entering system, either by lag or half the capfleet crashing.
Stupid is jumping your fleet into that and then whining it was laggy. Srsly.
Originally by: Puupuu dude... your face...
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Citric Acid
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:26:00 -
[89]
Edited by: Citric Acid on 14/09/2007 20:26:19
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate Lag isn't tolerable, it doesn't matter who wins.
I agree absolutely. I've always said that. However karma certainly is a *****, and you guys have used "lag" to your advantage many a time, hence my amusement at posts such as vile rats.
Of course, if you would read my post, at no point did I say that it was acceptable, but hey ho, if you're still licking those wounds I guess we can let that slide.
Your the ones who got your **** kicked in for the past 3 months, funny you only drop by CAOD when you have a small victory so you can gloat over it.
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Cythrawl
Caldari Central Defiance
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:26:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Vrizuh This thread is in dire need of troll. Never let it be said that a former resident of 0oy would allow the new owners to go lacking:
http://pics.livejournal.com/madmarty/pic/000tf9ks
Ok, chances are pretty good that that link wont work unless you have an emo/lj account. I would put the picture somewhere else but copyright infringement etc etc.
Why not link directly to the comic from his site? http://www.comics.com/comics/getfuzzy/archive/images/getfuzzy2007016295914.gif
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Originally by: Black Torment OH GOD, DROWNING IN TINFOIL.
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Rail Duke
Mean Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:26:00 -
[91]
welp
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Neoromi
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:27:00 -
[92]
Fleet battle in Revelation 2
Tonight we had a "fleet battle" in OOY-. About 400 people on coalition side, two on BOB side,we jumping on them. Result ? Our fleet annihilated, no one could see nor activate any gun, for some reason enemy fleet was able to shoot 10 ship a minutes. We are asking for every single ship destroyed in OOY- tonight to be fully reimbursed.
Revelation lag in fleet battle has proven to be just as bad if not worse than pre revelation 2 lag, lost synch problem have increased. The end of the Titan era has brought people back into fight, to hit once again the lag wall.
In case of no rembursement off all TCF fleet ship i ll cancel all my eve account .
Neoromi TCF alliance .
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Stoffer Ninjapirate
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:27:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate Lag isn't tolerable, it doesn't matter who wins.
I agree absolutely. I've always said that. However karma certainly is a *****, and you guys have used "lag" to your advantage many a time, hence my amusement at posts such as vile rats.
Of course, if you would read my post, at no point did I say that it was acceptable, but hey ho, if you're still licking those wounds I guess we can let that slide.
Sure you are, instead of complaining about the lag, you're talking about how embarrasing this is for RSF. I'm not sure why it's embarrasing for someone to have more than half their fleet unable to jump in because this game is unplayable the second you try to pvp.
It ain't embarrassing for RSF at all. We all know that Mittani has specifically said to avoid "epic" fights. TCF and RA need not be embarrassed, they play this as the game it is.
You guys don't. You take it faaaar too seriously. For "serious business", yep, you're an embarrassment.
But hey ho, your ships die like ours, and everyone else's, let's hope daddy mittani doesn't hold it against you.
Let's hope you at some point grow a pair of balls big enough to complain about the state of things and we might see some change.
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Mylea Tenebrae
Elegance Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:27:00 -
[94]
And like as usual, BoB & Co kill some Cap Ship, in the lagfest, and loose none.
Really I don't understand How can you kill as much of ships if "nobody" can play? You kill 9 Cap Ship in 30 min, that's insane... And you loose just 9 poor little ships according to your killboard
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:28:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Citric Acid Edited by: Citric Acid on 14/09/2007 20:26:19
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate Lag isn't tolerable, it doesn't matter who wins.
I agree absolutely. I've always said that. However karma certainly is a *****, and you guys have used "lag" to your advantage many a time, hence my amusement at posts such as vile rats.
Of course, if you would read my post, at no point did I say that it was acceptable, but hey ho, if you're still licking those wounds I guess we can let that slide.
Your the ones who got your **** kicked in for the past 3 months, funny you only drop by CAOD when you have a small victory so you can gloat over it.
Cry much? Reikoku Diplomatic Forums |
NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:28:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Ulesi
Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate
You're pretty stupid. This goes both ways. Any big battle ends up like this one, one side wins because they other is crippled by entering system, either by lag or half the capfleet crashing.
Stupid is jumping your fleet into that and then whining it was laggy. Srsly.
Sup JV1V.
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BoB sucks
Burning Bush Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:28:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate Lag isn't tolerable, it doesn't matter who wins.
I agree absolutely. I've always said that. However karma certainly is a *****, and you guys have used "lag" to your advantage many a time, hence my amusement at posts such as vile rats.
Of course, if you would read my post, at no point did I say that it was acceptable, but hey ho, if you're still licking those wounds I guess we can let that slide.
Like EC-PBR?
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Scavok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:28:00 -
[98]
Superior tactics and skill obviously, congrats on your well earned victory
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:29:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Citric Acid Edited by: Citric Acid on 14/09/2007 20:26:19
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate Lag isn't tolerable, it doesn't matter who wins.
I agree absolutely. I've always said that. However karma certainly is a *****, and you guys have used "lag" to your advantage many a time, hence my amusement at posts such as vile rats.
Of course, if you would read my post, at no point did I say that it was acceptable, but hey ho, if you're still licking those wounds I guess we can let that slide.
Your the ones who got your **** kicked in for the past 3 months, funny you only drop by CAOD when you have a small victory so you can gloat over it.
Cry much?
He's got a point, you seem to be 'absent' from the forums for long stretches at a time. Usually these stretches involve periods of time that you are losing regions.
Now goons, goons complain ALL the time.
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Hellaciouss
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:29:00 -
[100]
Edited by: Hellaciouss on 14/09/2007 20:33:35
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Cythrawl
Caldari Central Defiance
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:29:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Citric Acid Edited by: Citric Acid on 14/09/2007 20:26:19
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate Lag isn't tolerable, it doesn't matter who wins.
I agree absolutely. I've always said that. However karma certainly is a *****, and you guys have used "lag" to your advantage many a time, hence my amusement at posts such as vile rats.
Of course, if you would read my post, at no point did I say that it was acceptable, but hey ho, if you're still licking those wounds I guess we can let that slide.
Your the ones who got your **** kicked in for the past 3 months, funny you only drop by CAOD when you have a small victory so you can gloat over it.
As opposed to talking trash in every single forum post...
Win, sir, win.
Funny thing is I don't like BoB or Goons, but Goons go out of their way to make people dislike em. Good show. Guess who I want to win?
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Originally by: Black Torment OH GOD, DROWNING IN TINFOIL.
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:29:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Scavok Superior tactics and skill obviously, congrats on your well earned victory
Mad props for engaging -------- I tanked D2 capital fleet and all I got was truncated Erebus mail.
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BuIIseye
Amarr Pax Amarria Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:31:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Mylea Tenebrae And like as usual, BoB & Co kill some Cap Ship, in the lagfest, and loose none.
Really I don't understand How can you kill as much of ships if "nobody" can play? You kill 9 Cap Ship in 30 min, that's insane... And you loose just 9 poor little ships according to your killboard
Remember, When enemys jump in and die to lag, its "lol @ noobs" When you jump and die, its BoB hax
------------------------------ Yes i am hax0r
Because of the name I have a higher chance of a wrecking shot, please don't tell the GM's or they'll nerf me =/ |
KIATolon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:33:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Dianabolic
It ain't embarrassing for RSF at all. We all know that Mittani has specifically said to avoid "epic" fights. TCF and RA need not be embarrassed, they play this as the game it is.
You guys don't. You take it faaaar too seriously. For "serious business", yep, you're an embarrassment.
But hey ho, your ships die like ours, and everyone else's, let's hope daddy mittani doesn't hold it against you.
Your goonswarm information is monumentally out of date. I guess you dont have enough of us on MSN. So how many fighters did t20 say it takes to lag out a system?
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Scavok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:34:00 -
[105]
Originally by: LUKEC
Originally by: Scavok Superior tactics and skill obviously, congrats on your well earned victory
Mad props for engaging
I can't accept these props, all managed to do was mash the jump button on 2 accounts for an hour.
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Cmdr Sp0ck
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:34:00 -
[106]
Kudos to our enemies for bringing it. |
Citric Acid
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:34:00 -
[107]
Edited by: Citric Acid on 14/09/2007 20:36:08
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Citric Acid Edited by: Citric Acid on 14/09/2007 20:26:19
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate Lag isn't tolerable, it doesn't matter who wins.
I agree absolutely. I've always said that. However karma certainly is a *****, and you guys have used "lag" to your advantage many a time, hence my amusement at posts such as vile rats.
Of course, if you would read my post, at no point did I say that it was acceptable, but hey ho, if you're still licking those wounds I guess we can let that slide.
Your the ones who got your **** kicked in for the past 3 months, funny you only drop by CAOD when you have a small victory so you can gloat over it.
Cry much?
Why don't you lose 80+ billion in undefended towers over it. Not very good with this logistics thing are we, now that Blacklights gone, I hear he still chooses WoW over your company. Oh and where's Dear friend Digital communist, years of spewing worthless propaganda get to his head?
The Mittani quotes are pretty funny, your spies most be so good, thinking he's still in charge.
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Xrensa
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:34:00 -
[108]
My beard was getting all itchy recently because of the changing weather (my skin gets really dry in the fall) so I shaved it. When I came back the system had loaded! So, here's my advice: Shave your beard. Especially you, lady scarlet.
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TWD
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:34:00 -
[109]
Originally by: KIATolon
Originally by: Dianabolic
It ain't embarrassing for RSF at all. We all know that Mittani has specifically said to avoid "epic" fights. TCF and RA need not be embarrassed, they play this as the game it is.
You guys don't. You take it faaaar too seriously. For "serious business", yep, you're an embarrassment.
But hey ho, your ships die like ours, and everyone else's, let's hope daddy mittani doesn't hold it against you.
Your goonswarm information is monumentally out of date. I guess you dont have enough of us on MSN. So how many fighters did t20 say it takes to lag out a system?
Shut up, and shave. |
Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:35:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Neoromi
In case of no rembursement off all TCF fleet ship i ll cancel all my eve account .
Please go into your settings and enable corp or alliance to continue posting in CAOD - Kreul Intentions
Neoromi TCF alliance .
You frederick alt? me, myself and I ------> |
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Queen Hopy
Your Friendly Booster Company
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:35:00 -
[111]
Will James now write a post about why goons are losing the war in the south?
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Extregar Qvint
Caldari FinFleet
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:35:00 -
[112]
Fun things to do on earth while waiting for alternative reality to come out of time loop:
1. Dishes 2. Bankmeeting to evaluate chance of getting subprime loan 3. Solving yesterdays crosswords (once more)
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Ahistaja
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:36:00 -
[113]
Edited by: Ahistaja on 14/09/2007 20:36:01
Quote: Sure you are, instead of complaining about the lag, you're talking about how embarrasing this is for RSF. I'm not sure why it's embarrasing for someone to have more than half their fleet unable to jump in because this game is unplayable the second you try to pvp.
It ain't embarrassing for RSF at all. We all know that Mittani has specifically said to avoid "epic" fights. TCF and RA need not be embarrassed, they play this as the game it is.
You guys don't. You take it faaaar too seriously. For "serious business", yep, you're an embarrassment.
But hey ho, your ships die like ours, and everyone else's, let's hope daddy mittani doesn't hold it against you.
Haha, I like the way you (t)roll.
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Tzrailasa
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:37:00 -
[114]
I still find it amusing that the party who brings 500 people (RA/pets) in a fight to shoot at 250 people (BoB/allies) is crying so hard over lag
My views are my own. They do not represent the views of my corporation or alliance. |
Lasakywa
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:37:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Queen Hopy Will James now write a post about why goons are losing the war in the south?
It's Jamie, for the bob side ;)
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Oli4Oli4
Viper Squad Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:37:00 -
[116]
Good luck to all.
Bad to here the servers are crap once again
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Lucias Trask
Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:38:00 -
[117]
We saw James315 run through in a 35 man gang the other day... it was a long argument on if it was worth suiciding our 12 man gang just to primary him and melt his ship. [PANIC] |
Citric Acid
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:39:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Tzrailasa I still find it amusing that the party who brings 500 people (RA/pets) in a fight to shoot at 250 people (BoB/allies) is crying so hard over lag
Man you must be a math professor or something with the way you count.
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Doc Punkiller
Caldari Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:39:00 -
[119]
Here's another recipe while waiting for the grid to load :
1) pour single malt in a glass 2) drink 3) enjoy it as time passes slowly
repeat at will.
If you want to see something moving on your screen you can also watch the rugby worldcup.
Originally by: FowlPlayChiken I cooked up a sexy thai chicken while i was waiting for grid to load. it loaded a couple mins after I got back with my food. lol
this is the closest recipe i can find to what I made. cept only used a single breast, and diddnt cut it. also, used no broccoli or garlic, and added basil and a touch of sea salt.
2 whole chicken *******, skinned, boned & cut into bite-size pieces 1/2 c. peanut butter 1/2 c. water 2 tbsp. soy sauce 1 tbsp. brown sugar 2 tbsp. peanut or vegetable oil 2 or 3 cloves garlic, minced 1/2 tsp. crushed red pepper 3 to 4 c. sliced broccoli or spinach
In a small bowl, blend peanut butter, water, soy sauce and sugar; set aside. In a wok or large skillet, heat oil over high heat. Add garlic and pepper; stir-fry 30 seconds. Add chicken, stir-fry until firm and white, about 5 minutes. Add broccoli or spinach, stir-fry until bright green, about 3 minutes. Stir in peanut butter mixture. Cook, stirring constantly until sauce is smooth, about 3 minutes. Serves 4.
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slip66
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:40:00 -
[120]
dammit Im missing the lag.
Seriously though Im impressed TCF&RA jumped in. Some funny one lines in this thread!
Originally by: StOrM ViPeR Theres a skill called surgical strike in game I've learned that it actually stands for Band of Brothers |
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Scavok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:40:00 -
[121]
Edited by: Scavok on 14/09/2007 20:41:18
Originally by: Tzrailasa I still find it amusing that the party who brings 500 people (RA/pets) in a fight to shoot at 250 people (BoB/allies) is crying so hard over lag
We had about 350-370, it was hard to tell since capitals and support were never in the same system at the same time. Local in 0OY before we jumped in was over 310. But yeah hyperbole is cool.
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Blazde
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:41:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Metal Dude CCP: There's no evidence supporting the claim that the loss happened as a result of the malfunction of our severs/database during your reported time.
1. Try to clear up your cache.
2. Open as few applications as possible when you play EVE on your computer.
3. Shut down any P2P software which may disrupt the network connection between our sever and your client when playing EVE.
I did these three things once in a 500 man fleet battle and suffered no lag whatsoever. True story.
No wait.. it's not. _
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Khorian
Gallente Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:41:00 -
[123]
If it makes you Evil Coalition people feel better, didn't see much of the fight either. I heard it was fun tho, shooting helpless goons is always fun. I personally was reading the newspaper and cooked some spagetthi with tomato sauce. After I ate it all I decided I would warp to a planet and see if that grid loads any faster. After 5 minutes my warpdrive engaged and I was off. But no grid to be found there either, so I warped back to the gate. 5 minutes later I arrived after I had taken a ****.
Then the grid loaded, but it was all friendly! I wanted to shoot something damnit! So I heard there was a Dread at the Star. I wapred there and afeter 5 minutes my grid loaded. Local was down to 390 then. Everything seemed to stabilize but I didn't make it onto the mail because of my wimpy T2 rail brutix. Another Dread appeared right infront of me and we killed that aswell. Didn't make the mail AGAIN because of THIS
I fear this day will end up with no significant mails for me. Only a Rifter and a Velator for me :(
But we secured 0oy-z from the axis of evil, so its all good!
YARRRR
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Pestilent Industries Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:41:00 -
[124]
I feel the love for CCP in this thread.
Rhaegor Stormborn Fleet Admiral - Pestilent Industries Amalgamated [PIA] Recruitment Thread |
Aiolos Caci
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:42:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Neoromi In case of no rembursement off all TCF fleet ship i ll cancel all my eve account .
Neoromi TCF alliance .
Ohh noes! Please don't do that! Someone call Oveur!
I would also suggest threatening your ISP, the guy who sold you the PC, and your mom, just in case...
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papaPadla
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:42:00 -
[126]
Originally by: KIATolon
Your goonswarm information is monumentally out of date. I guess you dont have enough of us on MSN. So how many fighters did t20 say it takes to lag out a system?
Is KIAmoron... back from the dead... lemme explain the thing for the brain chalanged: there are 300 ppl in system you try to jump in another 300... if you think that lag was bcouse bob lagsploited ... nevermind... ull nevere getit no matter what -------------------------------------
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Mylea Tenebrae
Elegance Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:43:00 -
[127]
Originally by: BuIIseye
Originally by: Mylea Tenebrae And like as usual, BoB & Co kill some Cap Ship, in the lagfest, and loose none.
Really I don't understand How can you kill as much of ships if "nobody" can play? You kill 9 Cap Ship in 30 min, that's insane... And you loose just 9 poor little ships according to your killboard
Remember, When enemys jump in and die to lag, its "lol @ noobs" When you jump and die, its BoB hax
I never heard a TCF say that after win a lagfest fleetbattle... (lol@noob)
But.. 12 cap ships (now) killed also quickly with this lag...
I'm not in the battle, I just see the killboard, and search for an explanation.
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Tzrailasa
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:43:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Scavok
Originally by: Tzrailasa I still find it amusing that the party who brings 500 people (RA/pets) in a fight to shoot at 250 people (BoB/allies) is crying so hard over lag
We had about 350-370, it was hard to tell since capitals and support were never in the same system at the same time. Local in 0OY before we jumped in was over 310. But yeah hyperbole is cool.
...plus the 90 man AAA gang that you somehow conveniently forgot.
And out of the 310, at least 20 were yours. So ok, 460 vs 290...
Argument is still valid for laughing...
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Vivian Archemides
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:43:00 -
[129]
Edited by: Vivian Archemides on 14/09/2007 20:45:39 Edited by: Vivian Archemides on 14/09/2007 20:45:07
Originally by: Khorian
Then the grid loaded, but it was all friendly! I wanted to shoot something damnit! So I heard there was a Dread at the Star. I wapred there and afeter 5 minutes my grid loaded. Local was down to 390 then. Everything seemed to stabilize but I didn't make it onto the mail because of my wimpy T2 rail brutix. Another Dread appeared right infront of me and we killed that aswell. Didn't make the mail AGAIN because of THIS
YARRRR
That pic... is a beautiful thing... how fast did the dread melt?
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Barra Cheveyo
Gallente Stratos Styx
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:44:00 -
[130]
Half of eve on one side and the other half on the other cramming everything they've got into one lousy system.
Do the rest of eve a favor and spread out a little bit.
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Blood Impact
Maphesto's children
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:44:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Xrensa Big fight going to happen/in progress, discuss it here.
Setup: All towers owned by bob in 0oyz are reinforced, with timers coming out at various times. The majority of them were kited and are coming out in goon prime time. 0oyz is just barely still in sov 2, if we don't take these towers today they'll have a cyno jammer and that's no fun at all. BoB has called in all of their various pets to help them since the timing for bob is kinda bad. All hell will break loose. Action is already under way.
BoB KM - 14 September 2007 - Goon/RA/Friends 217 vs 23 BoB/MC/Friends
BOB + pets bite alot and the time wasn't the best? wonder what happened if it was... BoB KB shows 11 capitals down in Goon/RA/Friends side and 0 on theyre own? Can you give us exact numbers on the capital losses?
Gtz to both sides.
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Maksiim
Doom and Gloom Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:45:00 -
[132]
FanFest is for... |
the Poet
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:45:00 -
[133]
Edited by: the Poet on 14/09/2007 20:46:56
CONGRATS on only getting the Russians to jump in and die. I can only assume it was a goon FC running the circus.
*snip* Do not use your sig to troll. -Elmo Pug |
Jonathan Peterbilt
Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:46:00 -
[134]
Originally by: KIATolon
Originally by: Dianabolic
It ain't embarrassing for RSF at all. We all know that Mittani has specifically said to avoid "epic" fights. TCF and RA need not be embarrassed, they play this as the game it is.
You guys don't. You take it faaaar too seriously. For "serious business", yep, you're an embarrassment.
But hey ho, your ships die like ours, and everyone else's, let's hope daddy mittani doesn't hold it against you.
Your goonswarm information is monumentally out of date. I guess you dont have enough of us on MSN. So how many fighters did t20 say it takes to lag out a system?
Did they cheat against you again? Damn hackers I say....
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Citric Acid
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:46:00 -
[135]
Edited by: Citric Acid on 14/09/2007 20:46:36
Originally by: papaPadla
Originally by: KIATolon
Your goonswarm information is monumentally out of date. I guess you dont have enough of us on MSN. So how many fighters did t20 say it takes to lag out a system?
Is KIAmoron... back from the dead... lemme explain the thing for the brain chalanged: there are 300 ppl in system you try to jump in another 300... if you think that lag was bcouse bob lagsploited ... nevermind... ull nevere getit no matter what
Oh man the super genius papaPadla, calling KIATolon a moron when he can't even spell "never","get it","because", or "you'll."
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SFShootme
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:47:00 -
[136]
gf
nuff said. - Tho shall give Life, for Life. |
Khorian
Gallente Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:49:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Vivian Archemides Edited by: Vivian Archemides on 14/09/2007 20:45:39 Edited by: Vivian Archemides on 14/09/2007 20:45:07
Originally by: Khorian
Then the grid loaded, but it was all friendly! I wanted to shoot something damnit! So I heard there was a Dread at the Star. I wapred there and afeter 5 minutes my grid loaded. Local was down to 390 then. Everything seemed to stabilize but I didn't make it onto the mail because of my wimpy T2 rail brutix. Another Dread appeared right infront of me and we killed that aswell. Didn't make the mail AGAIN because of THIS
YARRRR
That pic... is a beautiful thing... how fast did the dread melt?
A little under a minute or so.
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LoveLoveHate
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:50:00 -
[138]
Edited by: LoveLoveHate on 14/09/2007 20:51:24 RSF bring massive amounts of revenue into Eve through new players excited to participate in fleet combat. Meanwhile BoB sticks massive amounts of lag inducing fighters on gates to avoid/ruin fights and these two circumstances are somehow equal? I'm a neutral participant in this, but talking to people and seeing the killmails (where fighters overwhelming represent the killers today) validates my position. As a matter of fact, fighters represent the ONLY thing on killmails.
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Stoffer Ninjapirate
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:52:00 -
[139]
Originally by: SFShootme gf
nuff said. -
It's the braindead idiots like you who just pay your monthly fee and bend over when asked to that keep this game ****ty.
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lofty29
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:53:00 -
[140]
Originally by: LoveLoveHate Meanwhile BoB sticks massive amounts of lag inducing fighters on gates to avoid/ruin fights and these two circumstances are somehow equal?
Rofl, we warped in our capitals only AFTER we had visual on theirs. We saw a cyno, but due to the lag, no capitals. Once we actually had a report of a capital, we warped the carriers in. ---
Project Mayhem 2 |
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Sharona Rox
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:54:00 -
[141]
Originally by: LoveLoveHate Edited by: LoveLoveHate on 14/09/2007 20:51:24 RSF bring massive amounts of revenue into Eve through new players excited to participate in fleet combat. Meanwhile BoB sticks massive amounts of lag inducing fighters on gates to avoid/ruin fights and these two circumstances are somehow equal? I'm a neutral participant in this, but talking to people and seeing the killmails (where fighters overwhelming represent the killers today) validates my position. As a matter of fact, fighters represent the ONLY thing on killmails.
Neutral my ass, goonfag alt more like
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Xanaxa
Amarr Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:55:00 -
[142]
Edited by: Xanaxa on 14/09/2007 20:54:48
Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate
Originally by: SFShootme gf
nuff said. -
It's the braindead idiots like you who just pay your monthly fee and bend over when asked to that keep this game ****ty.
And it's posts like these that make my day Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Eldo Davip ([email protected]) |
jeffb
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:56:00 -
[143]
mad props for bringing da frighters
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Nlewis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:56:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Sharona Rox
Originally by: LoveLoveHate Edited by: LoveLoveHate on 14/09/2007 20:51:24 RSF bring massive amounts of revenue into Eve through new players excited to participate in fleet combat. Meanwhile BoB sticks massive amounts of lag inducing fighters on gates to avoid/ruin fights and these two circumstances are somehow equal? I'm a neutral participant in this, but talking to people and seeing the killmails (where fighters overwhelming represent the killers today) validates my position. As a matter of fact, fighters represent the ONLY thing on killmails.
Neutral my ass, goonfag alt more like
post with your main
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HaulandHaul
Gallente Caldari Deep Space Ventures Caldari Deep Space Industral
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:57:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate
Originally by: SFShootme gf
nuff said. -
It's the braindead idiots like you who just pay your monthly fee and bend over when asked to that keep this game ****ty.
It's the ******* that create these kinda replys that jump in and die. *snip* Modifying another player's signature graphic to insult them is trolling. -Rauth Kivaro ([email protected]) |
Jonathan Peterbilt
Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:57:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Sharona Rox
Originally by: LoveLoveHate Edited by: LoveLoveHate on 14/09/2007 20:51:24 RSF bring massive amounts of revenue into Eve through new players excited to participate in fleet combat. Meanwhile BoB sticks massive amounts of lag inducing fighters on gates to avoid/ruin fights and these two circumstances are somehow equal? I'm a neutral participant in this, but talking to people and seeing the killmails (where fighters overwhelming represent the killers today) validates my position. As a matter of fact, fighters represent the ONLY thing on killmails.
Neutral my ass, goonfag alt more like
Nope, more like TCF alt, only they prefer "RSF".
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Mylea Tenebrae
Elegance Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:58:00 -
[147]
Edited by: Mylea Tenebrae on 14/09/2007 20:59:26 Ok I understand, after a better view on the killboard.
BoB & Co had only Carriers and Motherships, whereas RSF had much more Dread. When the lag is so hard, drone fighters is a better weapon than guns :)
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Selene D'Celeste
Caldari The D'Celeste Estate
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:59:00 -
[148]
I'm impressed with the mostly civilized banter between BoB/GS on here. You all must be having fun bonding during the shared lag? =)
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Adamantium Beams
Section XIII
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:01:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Jonathan Peterbilt So how many towers did RaGoons killed today?
As much ship without a cloak in your assets
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abukede
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:01:00 -
[150]
Confirmed ... 10 Ragoon Dreads down
Dice is the Predator and Eve is our prey.
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Nlewis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:04:00 -
[151]
It's funny how all the dread killmails are full of fighters. oh thats right fighters operate the same whether there's lag or not
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Jet Max
Gallente JuBa Corp RONA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:04:00 -
[152]
Edited by: Jet Max on 14/09/2007 21:04:44
Originally by: Khorian
Originally by: Vivian Archemides Edited by: Vivian Archemides on 14/09/2007 20:45:39 Edited by: Vivian Archemides on 14/09/2007 20:45:07
Originally by: Khorian
Then the grid loaded, but it was all friendly! I wanted to shoot something damnit! So I heard there was a Dread at the Star. I wapred there and afeter 5 minutes my grid loaded. Local was down to 390 then. Everything seemed to stabilize but I didn't make it onto the mail because of my wimpy T2 rail brutix. Another Dread appeared right infront of me and we killed that aswell. Didn't make the mail AGAIN because of THIS
YARRRR
That pic... is a beautiful thing... how fast did the dread melt?
A little under a minute or so.
Damn thats a coolest pic i ever seen in eve!
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Rail Duke
Mean Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:05:00 -
[153]
http://spcachallenge.angelfire.com/august.html
vote for no. 4 if you're down
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Jamie 315
Yet Another CAOD Inspired 1 Woman Alt Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:05:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Lasakywa
Originally by: Queen Hopy Will James now write a post about why goons are losing the war in the south?
It's Jamie, for the bob side ;)
I have no side. Read my posts, I insult both parties so stfu ra slave.
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lofty29
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:05:00 -
[155]
Originally by: Nlewis It's funny how all the dread killmails are full of fighters. oh thats right fighters operate the same whether there's lag or not
Exploits are great, hey? ---
Project Mayhem 2 |
Khorian
Gallente Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:06:00 -
[156]
This is a view of the R97 gate. I think it's beautiful. It's all in the eye of the Beholder you see :P
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Moe Sczyzlak
Caldari Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:07:00 -
[157]
The fact that Goons, well known for allways bringing insane numbers in to any fight, are the ones complaining most about lag, just boggles the mind. Try to come in to a system with LESS than 400 ppl sometime and we will all have a more enjoyable experience. The fact that you then have the nerve to actually blame US for the lag is not even worth commenting on. It's just too much.
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Citric Acid
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:10:00 -
[158]
Edited by: Citric Acid on 14/09/2007 21:10:27
Originally by: Moe Sczyzlak The fact that Goons, well known for allways bringing insane numbers in to any fight, are the ones complaining most about lag, just boggles the mind. Try to come in to a system with LESS than 400 ppl sometime and we will all have a more enjoyable experience. The fact that you then have the nerve to actually blame US for the lag is not even worth commenting on. It's just too much.
When did we ever blame you for the lag? Oh and I'm sorry, we'll just tell half our fleet they can't come, and you can put away half of your 400 fighters.
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FBI fofofofofofofofofof
Gallente G00NFLEET
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:11:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Aiolos Caci
Originally by: Neoromi In case of no rembursement off all TCF fleet ship i ll cancel all my eve account .
Neoromi TCF alliance .
Ohh noes! Please don't do that! Someone call Oveur!
I would also suggest threatening your ISP, the guy who sold you the PC, and your mom, just in case...
Please dont, i will buy you a new one if ccp doesnt come through. this is exactly what bob wants. BOB = LAG
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Gidien Kane
Amarr OneHundredRed
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:15:00 -
[160]
Edited by: Gidien Kane on 14/09/2007 21:15:28
Originally by: FBI fofofofofofofofofof
Originally by: Aiolos Caci
Originally by: Neoromi In case of no rembursement off all TCF fleet ship i ll cancel all my eve account .
Neoromi TCF alliance .
Ohh noes! Please don't do that! Someone call Oveur!
I would also suggest threatening your ISP, the guy who sold you the PC, and your mom, just in case...
Please dont, i will buy you a new one if ccp doesnt come through. this is exactly what bob wants. BOB = LAG
THIS IS WHY THE TERRORIST HATE YOU GK-
*snip* Sig removed. Please email us if you would like to know why. -Conuion Meow ([email protected]) |
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Rail Duke
Mean Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:16:00 -
[161]
Originally by: FBI fofofofofofofofofof
Originally by: Aiolos Caci
Originally by: Neoromi In case of no rembursement off all TCF fleet ship i ll cancel all my eve account .
Neoromi TCF alliance .
Ohh noes! Please don't do that! Someone call Oveur!
I would also suggest threatening your ISP, the guy who sold you the PC, and your mom, just in case...
you're the worst troll
Please dont, i will buy you a new one if ccp doesnt come through. this is exactly what bob wants. BOB = LAG
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:20:00 -
[162]
Originally by: Citric Acid Edited by: Citric Acid on 14/09/2007 20:36:08
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Citric Acid Edited by: Citric Acid on 14/09/2007 20:26:19
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate Lag isn't tolerable, it doesn't matter who wins.
I agree absolutely. I've always said that. However karma certainly is a *****, and you guys have used "lag" to your advantage many a time, hence my amusement at posts such as vile rats.
Of course, if you would read my post, at no point did I say that it was acceptable, but hey ho, if you're still licking those wounds I guess we can let that slide.
Your the ones who got your **** kicked in for the past 3 months, funny you only drop by CAOD when you have a small victory so you can gloat over it.
Cry much?
Why don't you lose 80+ billion in undefended towers over it. Not very good with this logistics thing are we, now that Blacklights gone, I hear he still chooses WoW over your company. Oh and where's Dear friend Digital communist, years of spewing worthless propaganda get to his head?
The Mittani quotes are pretty funny, your spies most be so good, thinking he's still in charge.
Hey, why don't you flee from syndicate to the other side of the universe, become uttely reliant on another enterty for survival and struggle while fighting against a numerically smaller foe about it.
Oops sorry, you are, lol.
How many objectives met tonight guys, according to your propoganda we were already defeated and in failure cascade so obviously we couldnt have won, james 315 said so rememeber. oops, guess your propoganda falls on it's face today
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Moe Sczyzlak
Caldari Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:21:00 -
[163]
Edited by: Moe Sczyzlak on 14/09/2007 21:22:16
Originally by: Citric Acid Edited by: Citric Acid on 14/09/2007 21:10:27
Originally by: Moe Sczyzlak The fact that Goons, well known for allways bringing insane numbers in to any fight, are the ones complaining most about lag, just boggles the mind. Try to come in to a system with LESS than 400 ppl sometime and we will all have a more enjoyable experience. The fact that you then have the nerve to actually blame US for the lag is not even worth commenting on. It's just too much.
When did we ever blame you for the lag? Oh and I'm sorry, we'll just tell half our fleet they can't come, and you can put away half of your 400 fighters.
WHEN did you ever..? Well start by looking up in this very thread. To add to that I have the example of us being in a fleet of 69 ships in RIT a few weeks back. A goonfleet of 300+ jumped in and local chat was immediatly filled with whines about lag and aparently the general concensus was that it was our fault. Go figure. :/
P.S. I can respect the argument about not telling people that they cant join though. Just don't blame us. We dont like the lag anymore than you do. D.S.
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Levka
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:23:00 -
[164]
Edited by: Levka on 14/09/2007 21:25:26
Originally by: Nlewis It's funny how all the dread killmails are full of fighters. oh thats right fighters operate the same whether there's lag or not
Whats wrong with fighters exactly?
Let me think. CCP introduces carriers, ships that cannot equip guns and its primary weapon are fighters. So, what exactly is wrong with them, i dont understand.
If you say that they cause lag, well sir "drone warfare" as i call it, been around since day one. I remember when i was in alliance up North and jumping in to systems just to see 100+ drones waiting for you. Its nothing new, one of the side effects of using drones.
Carrier is extremely efefctive ship if used properly under any conditions, but unlike what pepople think we dont bring them to cause lag, we bring them cause they are very efficient.
------------------------------------------------ If you can't dazzle them with brilliance baffle them with BullSh$t. |
EnacheV1
Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:30:00 -
[165]
I see only RA and TCF capitals in the losses, where were goonswarms capitals ?
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Fry Fortune
Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:31:00 -
[166]
I'm going to copy the bob forum tactic when they lose (disclaimer)
stupid bobbits are just falling into our trap we have you where we want now.
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Tzrailasa
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:32:00 -
[167]
Edited by: Tzrailasa on 14/09/2007 21:33:57
Originally by: Sentinel Eeex
Originally by: Tzrailasa I still find it amusing that the party who brings 500 people (RA/pets) in a fight to shoot at 250 people (BoB/allies) is crying so hard over lag
<picture of 541 in local>
LOCAL never spiked over this (at least for me).
Explain me the math again, please?
Dropped connections, lots of your capitals jumping out (or never jumping in) leaving their friends to die, the ~80 non-capital ships who never jumped in from R97, plus of cause the ~90 man AAA gang who ran away again when they saw the way the battle was going....
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DeadProphet
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:32:00 -
[168]
Originally by: Neoromi
In case of no rembursement off all TCF fleet ship i ll cancel all my eve account .
Neoromi TCF alliance .
oh cmon, everytime TCF fights in what is obviously (DOH!) going to be a super laggy fight they threaten to quit :P
I do feel sorry for everyone who loses ships to this absolute crap, but grow up a bit eh, put the toys back in the pram.
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Jonathan Peterbilt
Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:34:00 -
[169]
Edited by: Jonathan Peterbilt on 14/09/2007 21:35:47
Originally by: Mylea Tenebrae Edited by: Mylea Tenebrae on 14/09/2007 21:28:03 And you don't think about lag with your swarm of drone fighters? That's the same thing on the two sides...
I think that everybody want to win, and don't really search for good fight in this sort of battle...
Dont be a hypocrit and search your killboard for pilot named Drazi. He lost a carrier to your carrier/MS blob recently. Is that what you call "improper" use of fighters?
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Ahistaja
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:34:00 -
[170]
Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn I feel the love for CCP in this thread.
To be honest, they and the new sov system are to blame. Cyno jammers (or in this case, the threat of cyno jammers) make huge BS blobs the only possible method for conquering territory.
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Nahia Senne
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:36:00 -
[171]
Good fight RA. Good fight TCF.
Next time, ask goons to send some caps of their own. Maybe the battle would have turned differently.
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Mylea Tenebrae
Elegance Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:36:00 -
[172]
BoB don't want to generate lag, they know there will lag in this battle. So They come with carriers and motherships only, because they know that the drones are not affect by the lag :)
BoB's drone swarm against Goons swarm :p Use game mechanics !
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Elder Bob
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:37:00 -
[173]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Nlewis It's funny how all the dread killmails are full of fighters. oh thats right fighters operate the same whether there's lag or not
I don't follow.
Guns = Target ship, press F1+ Fighters = Target ship, order to engage
Lag effects both courses of actions equally.
Except, of course, that fighters auto-aggro, which isn't affected by lag at all.
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:37:00 -
[174]
This is why im staying out of fleet battles for awhile. This concept of lag confuses and infuriates me.
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Moe Sczyzlak
Caldari Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:37:00 -
[175]
This debate can go on forever but the fact of the matter remains that the enemy ALLWAYS outnumbers us and thus are in no position to blame us for lag. Period. It's really that simple people. Whine about lag? sure. It's not fun. But stop ******* blaming us for it and for GOD'S sake stop saying "WE WANT OUR SHIPS BACK OR WE'LL QUIT" That is soo infantile.
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:37:00 -
[176]
OMG, the sheer joy of hearing the goons and co whine about lag. Sensory overload. Strategic failure guys. Not once, not even twice but if you include the first time you failed, thats 3 times. How does that spin with your propoganda, tough to swallow, aawww
Smiling irl
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Nlewis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:39:00 -
[177]
Originally by: fire 59 OMG, the sheer joy of hearing the goons and co whine about lag. Sensory overload. Strategic failure guys. Not once, not even twice but if you include the first time you failed, thats 3 times. How does that spin with your propoganda, tough to swallow, aawww
Smiling irl
propz
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KIATolon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:41:00 -
[178]
Originally by: TWD Shut up, and shave.
WTS unbeatable setup and emperors new clothes (will trade for calculator)
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MeatwagonUK
M. Corp M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:44:00 -
[179]
Originally by: Elder Bob Except, of course, that fighters auto-aggro, which isn't affected by lag at all.
Erm, to 'auto-aggro' the victim, as it were, has to aggro either one of the fighters or the carrier from EACH person. How in the hell is he managing to do that if he can't see his screen?
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Cmdr Sp0ck
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:45:00 -
[180]
Originally by: KIATolon
Originally by: TWD Shut up, and shave.
WTS unbeatable setup and emperors new clothes (will trade for calculator)
WTS: CALCULATOR |
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Mylea Tenebrae
Elegance Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:48:00 -
[181]
Originally by: Jonathan Peterbilt Edited by: Jonathan Peterbilt on 14/09/2007 21:35:47
Originally by: Mylea Tenebrae Edited by: Mylea Tenebrae on 14/09/2007 21:28:03 And you don't think about lag with your swarm of drone fighters? That's the same thing on the both sides...
I think that everybody want to win, and don't really search for good fight in this sort of battle...
Dont be a hypocrit and search your killboard for pilot named Drazi. He lost a carrier to your carrier/MS blob recently. Is that what you call "improper" use of fighters?
And I suppose that is my fault? I don't talk for TCF, I talk for me and my opinion.
I like the big eve wars, but the game (and players) don't follow and so I don't like fleetbattle, some is the result... This post is a good example. No fun, for nobody. Just perhaps for the CEOs of the winner's alliances.
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Orree
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:48:00 -
[182]
Originally by: Blazde
Originally by: Metal Dude CCP: There's no evidence supporting the claim that the loss happened as a result of the malfunction of our severs/database during your reported time.
1. Try to clear up your cache.
2. Open as few applications as possible when you play EVE on your computer.
3. Shut down any P2P software which may disrupt the network connection between our sever and your client when playing EVE.
I did these three things once in a 500 man fleet battle and suffered no lag whatsoever. True story.
No wait.. it's not.
AwesomeÖ
I'll have to try that...wait...
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Shoukei
Boobs Ahoy
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:48:00 -
[183]
Originally by: Mylea Tenebrae BoB don't want to generate lag, they know there will lag in this battle. So They come with carriers and motherships only, because they know that the drones are not affect by the lag :)
BoB's drone swarm against Goons swarm :p Use game mechanics !
There were no bob capitals or fighters on the grid when you jumped in. There were no bob capitals or fighters on the grid when you cynoed your capitals in.
Bob carriers warped in only some 20-30 minutes later, when your capitals started loading the grid.
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Ni-Kunni citizen 43535
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:49:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Nahia Senne Good fight RA. Good fight TCF.
Next time, ask goons to send some caps of their own. Maybe the battle would have turned differently.
wake up....there was no fight BoB were shooting, RA were watching empty overview tell thanks to ccp.
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:49:00 -
[185]
Originally by: Nlewis
Originally by: fire 59 OMG, the sheer joy of hearing the goons and co whine about lag. Sensory overload. Strategic failure guys. Not once, not even twice but if you include the first time you failed, thats 3 times. How does that spin with your propoganda, tough to swallow, aawww
Smiling irl
propz
Mad propz for jumping into a numerically inferior foe and losing, badly. Propz for failing for the third time holding ooy and not only losing a little because of bringin the waddling blob, but also because you have been bragging about the loss of feyth from us already and now looking rather silly.
I will try to find the words to emote how i feel abou this common feyth defeat syndrome, bwahahahahahahahaaaa
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papaPadla
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:51:00 -
[186]
god, i failed - yet again - at eve.
from the whole shebang on the gate i managed to get killed by a damn dread... a sinlge dread had the time to shoot my bs with arty's :( then he got out... if he were killed i'd feel vindicated but no, he got out.
i still don't understand this thing where everyone loads only some ships... i mean yeah im waiting 30 minutes to load the grid... but after that, im seeing 2 bs that is just unfair
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Scavok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:52:00 -
[187]
Originally by: EnacheV1 I see only RA and TCF capitals in the losses, where were goonswarms capitals ?
Since when do we have capitals?
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Kyodai Koga
Altera Odyssea Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:54:00 -
[188]
Telling people not to jump more than 150 players in because you're already 300 in the system is probably a bit too much don't you think guys ? :)
Well, enough with the e-peen showing, chest beating and forum fighting on this thread, nobody cares about who's ego is bigger because in tonight battle every player involved lost.
Playing (well, trying to play) in these conditions is clearly not fun, whichever side you're on, stop looking at who between BoB and RSF is the most to blame for it, it's CCP's fault for not being able to bring a satisfying gaming experience in these kind of battles.
I'm really disappointed, with normal lag level those kinds of engagements would really be a blast, instead it's a frustrating experience for everyone involved.
It's a ****in game we're playing and we haven't had fun tonight playing it, get over your ego everyone and realize it's the only thing that matter on the subject.
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MKeeper
Midnight Cartel
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:54:00 -
[189]
Originally by: fire 59
Mad propz for jumping into a numerically inferior foe and losing, badly. Propz for failing for the third time holding ooy and not only losing a little because of bringin the waddling blob, but also because you have been bragging about the loss of feyth from us already and now looking rather silly.
I will try to find the words to emote how i feel abou this common feyth defeat syndrome, bwahahahahahahahaaaa
I'm so glad you didn't start any of your threads with "I won't sink to your level". Would have bee quite a fail
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Levka
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:55:00 -
[190]
On a side note its not all fault of CCP. When game was introduced they never expected us to bring 500-700 people in to one system.
I used to play WoW some time ago and i remember raids on some of the major systems. Servers couldn't even handle 200 people in one spot. This when AQ gates opened and every server crashed cause it coulnt handle the lag. And we talking about BLIZZARD, company with unlimited resources, company that makes over 1 billion dollars in subscription alone per year.
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Scavok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:55:00 -
[191]
Originally by: fire 59
Originally by: Nlewis
Originally by: fire 59 OMG, the sheer joy of hearing the goons and co whine about lag. Sensory overload. Strategic failure guys. Not once, not even twice but if you include the first time you failed, thats 3 times. How does that spin with your propoganda, tough to swallow, aawww
Smiling irl
propz
Mad propz for jumping into a numerically inferior foe and losing, badly. Propz for failing for the third time holding ooy and not only losing a little because of bringin the waddling blob, but also because you have been bragging about the loss of feyth from us already and now looking rather silly.
I will try to find the words to emote how i feel abou this common feyth defeat syndrome, bwahahahahahahahaaaa
You failed sieging JV1V 3 times and also tried to rent out xgh/gdon, just sayin'
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Jehuty Vanricadia
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 21:57:00 -
[192]
Edited by: Jehuty Vanricadia on 14/09/2007 21:57:33
Originally by: KIATolon
Originally by: Dianabolic
It ain't embarrassing for RSF at all. We all know that Mittani has specifically said to avoid "epic" fights. TCF and RA need not be embarrassed, they play this as the game it is.
You guys don't. You take it faaaar too seriously. For "serious business", yep, you're an embarrassment.
But hey ho, your ships die like ours, and everyone else's, let's hope daddy mittani doesn't hold it against you.
Quote: Your goonswarm information is monumentally out of date. I guess you dont have enough of us on MSN. So how many fighters did t20 say it takes to lag out a system?
Yes 1 week! Ridiculously out of date.
Quote: Never, EVER give anyone an epic battle if you can afford it. Epic battles are for people who want risk, rather than victory. Give me a collapse without a fight any day: the sov matters, not the number of wrecks. Huge throwdowns are often decided by lag and who's closer to london; perhaps if this game had no lag a wise commander would be more willing to throw the dice with everything on the line, but the game doesn't work like that. The 'epic battle' would be node death.
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Sentinel Eeex
Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 22:00:00 -
[193]
Originally by: Tzrailasa Edited by: Tzrailasa on 14/09/2007 21:33:57
Originally by: Sentinel Eeex
Originally by: Tzrailasa I still find it amusing that the party who brings 500 people (RA/pets) in a fight to shoot at 250 people (BoB/allies) is crying so hard over lag
<picture of 541 in local>
LOCAL never spiked over this (at least for me).
Explain me the math again, please?
Dropped connections, lots of your capitals jumping out (or never jumping in) leaving their friends to die, the ~80 non-capital ships who never jumped in from R97, plus of cause the ~90 man AAA gang who ran away again when they saw the way the battle was going....
So it wasn't 500 vs 250 after all, then, if at least 170 people didn't manage to even get into 0OY?
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Nlewis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 22:02:00 -
[194]
Please don't troll - Serathu ([email protected])
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 22:05:00 -
[195]
Originally by: Scavok
Originally by: fire 59
Originally by: Nlewis
Originally by: fire 59 OMG, the sheer joy of hearing the goons and co whine about lag. Sensory overload. Strategic failure guys. Not once, not even twice but if you include the first time you failed, thats 3 times. How does that spin with your propoganda, tough to swallow, aawww
Smiling irl
propz
Mad propz for jumping into a numerically inferior foe and losing, badly. Propz for failing for the third time holding ooy and not only losing a little because of bringin the waddling blob, but also because you have been bragging about the loss of feyth from us already and now looking rather silly.
I will try to find the words to emote how i feel abou this common feyth defeat syndrome, bwahahahahahahahaaaa
You failed sieging JV1V 3 times and also tried to rent out xgh/gdon, just sayin'
You're braggin that a numerically inferior foe was unable to siege outnumbered foe near your core systems 2-3-1. Dam, you showed us.
Just saying ^^
It is so cute becasue you are struggling when you arent at home with your safety blob, just saying, mad propz, respect and honour
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Elder Bob
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 22:07:00 -
[196]
Originally by: Cmdr Sp0ck
Originally by: KIATolon
Originally by: TWD Shut up, and shave.
WTS unbeatable setup and emperors new clothes (will trade for calculator)
WTS: CALCULATOR
Is this some kind of metatroll?
Tragically, I think you might just be so bad at posting that you think making a joke that has already been made by the other side is a good burn.
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Barthezz
Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.14 22:12:00 -
[197]
And yet another fight won by lag... ---
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Pestilent Industries Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.09.14 22:13:00 -
[198]
Originally by: Levka Edited by: Levka on 14/09/2007 22:03:16 On a side note its not all fault of CCP. When game was introduced they never expected us to bring 500-700 people in to one system.
I used to play WoW some time ago and i remember raids on some of the major cities. Servers couldn't even handle 200 people in one spot. Also, when AQ gates opened and every server crashed cause it couldn't handle the lag. And we talking about BLIZZARD, company with unlimited resources, company that makes over 1 billion dollars in subscription alone per year.
Then we need more than one server. Plain and simple. I don't like the idea, but it is idiotic to keep packing people onto one server, selling your game as this mega fleet battle one server MMOG when all it does is lag and crash four or five times a day.
Rhaegor Stormborn Fleet Admiral - Pestilent Industries Amalgamated [PIA] Recruitment Thread |
Jonathan Peterbilt
Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2007.09.14 22:17:00 -
[199]
Originally by: EnacheV1 I see only RA and TCF capitals in the losses, where were goonswarms capitals ?
Thats because they have the equal share in this war. RA is there to bring in the capitals, take down and manage POSs and pay for the war in general. Goons on the other hand are here to bring in the Caracals and Blackbirds, claim the victories and smack/trash the forums. Oh and yes, part of Goon war erfort is to whine to CCP about game "problems" like Titans, lag causing fighters, complain about BOB cheating etc etc.
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Vrizuh
Eve Defence Force Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.09.14 22:17:00 -
[200]
Originally by: Cythrawl
Originally by: Vrizuh This thread is in dire need of troll. Never let it be said that a former resident of 0oy would allow the new owners to go lacking:
http://pics.livejournal.com/madmarty/pic/000tf9ks
Ok, chances are pretty good that that link wont work unless you have an emo/lj account. I would put the picture somewhere else but copyright infringement etc etc.
Why not link directly to the comic from his site? http://www.comics.com/comics/getfuzzy/archive/images/getfuzzy2007016295914.gif
Cos in 1 month, you'll need a subscription to see the image. No matter. Everyone has seen it now I guess. <3 Bucky.
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Cmdr Sp0ck
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 22:19:00 -
[201]
Originally by: Elder Bob
Originally by: Cmdr Sp0ck
Originally by: KIATolon
Originally by: TWD Shut up, and shave.
WTS unbeatable setup and emperors new clothes (will trade for calculator)
WTS: CALCULATOR
Is this some kind of metatroll?
Tragically, I think you might just be so bad at posting that you think making a joke that has already been made by the other side is a good burn.
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Ahistaja
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 22:19:00 -
[202]
Originally by: Levka Edited by: Levka on 14/09/2007 22:03:16 On a side note its not all fault of CCP. When game was introduced they never expected us to bring 500-700 people in to one system.
It's their own fault for introducing cyno jammers, which *require* that many people in battleships to kill.
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Lucias Trask
Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.14 22:19:00 -
[203]
Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn
Originally by: Levka Edited by: Levka on 14/09/2007 22:03:16 On a side note its not all fault of CCP. When game was introduced they never expected us to bring 500-700 people in to one system.
I used to play WoW some time ago and i remember raids on some of the major cities. Servers couldn't even handle 200 people in one spot. Also, when AQ gates opened and every server crashed cause it couldn't handle the lag. And we talking about BLIZZARD, company with unlimited resources, company that makes over 1 billion dollars in subscription alone per year.
Then we need more than one server. Plain and simple. I don't like the idea, but it is idiotic to keep packing people onto one server, selling your game as this mega fleet battle one server MMOG when all it does is lag and crash four or five times a day.
Thats ridiculous... you didnt hear BoB saying that when they were being pushed back because of the lag bombs you dropped all over the place with 200 extra T1 frigates.
They work within the game mechanics, you started lag bombing and they enacted a counter strategy that removes your advantage and turns the tide back towards their ship/character skill superiority.
You played the crazy numbers card, they trumped you with a crazy skills card.
Sounds like a BoB win to me.
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Sentinel Eeex
Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 22:21:00 -
[204]
Originally by: fire 59
You're braggin that a numerically inferior foe was unable to siege outnumbered foe near your core systems 2-3-1. Dam, you showed us.
Just saying ^^
It is so cute becasue you are struggling when you arent at home with your safety blob, just saying, mad propz, respect and honour
Edit - Methinx goons should have gloated, puffed out chests and talked e-tough after victory instead of this huge failure
Oh, noes. Safety blob!
Picture
There were more fighters than players in 0OY. That's just sad...
Please don't post pictures on the forums - link them instead - Serathu ([email protected])
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Moonlight Express
Amarr Moonlight Express Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.14 22:21:00 -
[205]
Well, I guess itÆs time again to attempt to ruin CCP by spaming every gaming magazine and website with favoritism accusations and crooked GMs innuendos. Or maybe every goon can email CCP repeatedly and complain about lag like they complained about the Titans and maybe it will get fixed.
Come on, guys. You have the power. Make CCP fix the lag or get banned by trying. Or maybe you all can just cancel all your accounts and go play WoW. With you gone, maybe no one will want to blob and there only be 100 vs. 100 fights. I mean, in WOW, you can have the servers all to yourself. It could be World of the goons.
Naa, that would not be much fun. What would I do?
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lofty29
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 22:23:00 -
[206]
Originally by: Sentinel Eeex
Originally by: fire 59
You're braggin that a numerically inferior foe was unable to siege outnumbered foe near your core systems 2-3-1. Dam, you showed us.
Just saying ^^
It is so cute becasue you are struggling when you arent at home with your safety blob, just saying, mad propz, respect and honour
Edit - Methinx goons should have gloated, puffed out chests and talked e-tough after victory instead of this huge failure
Oh, noes. Safety blob!
Picture
There were more fighters than players in 0OY. That's just sad...
Well, all it would take would be 1 in 9 players to be in a well-fitted carrier, and yes, there would be more fighters than players. ---
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Ahistaja
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 22:23:00 -
[207]
Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn
Then we need more than one server. Plain and simple. I don't like the idea, but it is idiotic to keep packing people onto one server, selling your game as this mega fleet battle one server MMOG when all it does is lag and crash four or five times a day.
There are already dozens, if not hundreds of physical servers running the gameworld. Every starsystem can be/is run on a separate machine. The common part is the database, which right now doesn't seem to be the bottleneck.
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Elder Bob
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 22:25:00 -
[208]
Originally by: lofty29 Well, all it would take would be 1 in 9 players to be in a well-fitted carrier, and yes, there would be more fighters than players.
And why would 1 in 9 players be in carriers?
If you're fighting on grid, dreads tank better and do more damage. On the other hand, carriers make the server unplayable.
Exactly what was the reasoning behind the decision to order dreadnoughts to not show up, and for every available player to be in a carrier?
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Dooshotron
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 22:25:00 -
[209]
The lag saved some of your capitals, any less we would have scrambled far more.
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Pestilent Industries Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.09.14 22:26:00 -
[210]
Originally by: Lucias Trask Thats ridiculous... you didnt hear BoB saying that when they were being pushed back because of the lag bombs you dropped all over the place with 200 extra T1 frigates.
They work within the game mechanics, you started lag bombing and they enacted a counter strategy that removes your advantage and turns the tide back towards their ship/character skill superiority.
You played the crazy numbers card, they trumped you with a crazy skills card.
Sounds like a BoB win to me.
I think you have me confused with someone else. Last time I fought BoB was over a year and a half ago, and it was in Outer Ring. My feelings on the server are my own because the game sucks right now because of the ****ty server performance and CCPs constant failure to deliver on their promises.
Rhaegor Stormborn Fleet Admiral - Pestilent Industries Amalgamated [PIA] Recruitment Thread |
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Elder Bob
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 22:26:00 -
[211]
Originally by: Dooshotron The lag saved some of your capitals, any less we would have scrambled far more.
If there hadn't been lag, your capitals would have been outnumbered and outgunned by the force jumping in. Sadly, around 1/7 of them got in, and they didn't load.
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Yonker
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Posted - 2007.09.14 22:27:00 -
[212]
Alt post removed - post with your main! If this is your main, see the rules for details on how to stop your posts getting removed - Serathu ([email protected])
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lofty29
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 22:29:00 -
[213]
Originally by: Elder Bob And why would 1 in 9 players be in carriers?
If you're fighting on grid, dreads tank better and do more damage. On the other hand, carriers make the server unplayable.
Exactly what was the reasoning behind the decision to order dreadnoughts to not show up, and for every available player to be in a carrier?
Loooooooooool
Lol
lololol
haahaha
Rofl.
Dreads do more damage than carriers to a completely static structure or another capital ship, yes, but we expected you to bring a huge non-cap gang, which is what you did, no? Carriers are better tanks as they will be loaded with remote repairers, meaning they can remote rep each other and other ships in the fleet. Dreads in siege can't be remote repped, and can't FIT a remote rep capably, so there is no point in using a dread in that scenario.
Please don't troll - Serathu ([email protected]) ---
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Dooshotron
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 22:29:00 -
[214]
Originally by: Elder Bob If there hadn't been lag, your capitals would have been outnumbered and outgunned by the force jumping in. Sadly, around 1/7 of them got in, and they didn't load.
No lag? you tripping? I said any less, as to say if it had cleared we would have killed the lot.
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Tzrailasa
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 22:29:00 -
[215]
Originally by: Ahistaja
Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn
Then we need more than one server. Plain and simple. I don't like the idea, but it is idiotic to keep packing people onto one server, selling your game as this mega fleet battle one server MMOG when all it does is lag and crash four or five times a day.
There are already dozens, if not hundreds of physical servers running the gameworld. Every starsystem can be/is run on a separate machine. The common part is the database, which right now doesn't seem to be the bottleneck.
Actually, AFAIK the bottleneck is not the database, but that even though the EVE server has multiple nodes, each solar system can be handled by max. 1 node.
If that node is maxed out by too many calculations (the main ones being targeting, maneuvering, weapon activations, and damage calculations every time a weapon fires), lag ensues.
In my experience, any fight with 200+ people will end up a lagfest...
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lofty29
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 22:30:00 -
[216]
Originally by: Elder Bob
Originally by: Dooshotron The lag saved some of your capitals, any less we would have scrambled far more.
If there hadn't been lag, your capitals would have been outnumbered and outgunned by the force jumping in. Sadly, around 1/7 of them got in, and they didn't load.
Also, do you think we didnt have eyes on you? About 1/2 of your fleet got in, so dont BS us. ---
Project Mayhem 2 |
Pastora
Russian SOBR Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.14 22:32:00 -
[217]
Honestly, there was no lag. Ask CCP! Logs show no lag, so there was none. We are too hyperactive. Track your time. Base, base, base... _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants. |
Cmdr Sp0ck
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 22:34:00 -
[218]
Originally by: Pastora Honestly, there was no lag. Ask CCP! Logs show no lag, so there was none. We are too hyperactive. Track your time. Base, base, base...
There is no server lag. Only our ISP and computer problems... |
Joeyboy
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.14 22:36:00 -
[219]
Goons whining about lag again?
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Stoned Celt
Bloodnok Technologies
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Posted - 2007.09.14 22:38:00 -
[220]
Originally by: Elder Bob
Originally by: lofty29 Well, all it would take would be 1 in 9 players to be in a well-fitted carrier, and yes, there would be more fighters than players.
And why would 1 in 9 players be in carriers?
If you're fighting on grid, dreads tank better and do more damage. On the other hand, carriers make the server unplayable.
Exactly what was the reasoning behind the decision to order dreadnoughts to not show up, and for every available player to be in a carrier?
I think Lofty has already ridiculed you enough, but perhaps the other reason there were a lot of carriers around was that BOB have quite a few towers to recharge, they're also pretty good at doing that...
"I told you I was ill" - Epitaph on Spike Milligan's Tombstone.
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Elmicker
The Phoenix Rising FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.09.14 22:45:00 -
[221]
I love this. A goon (who shall remain nameless ♥) got sufficiently worked up about this to ban me from #eve-online on quakenet, while spouting tripe such as "moral high ground." . GJ Bobbits 'n' Co.
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 22:47:00 -
[222]
I admit, I'm guilty. I cheated.
I used carrier with fighters
-------- I tanked D2 capital fleet and all I got was truncated Erebus mail.
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Mutant
UA Industry Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.14 22:53:00 -
[223]
most ppl login to game for fun, today bob's have fun and we have lag. we could stop this ops but we hoped to more playable. ra not give any more fun to our opponents, we start play by old rules again.
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Elmicker
The Phoenix Rising FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.09.14 22:58:00 -
[224]
Originally by: Mutant we start play by old rules again.
A problem, then, that it can now take 3+ hours to log in?
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Cmdr Sp0ck
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 23:00:00 -
[225]
Originally by: Mutant most ppl login to game for fun, today bob's have fun and we have lag. we could stop this ops but we hoped to more playable. ra not give any more fun to our opponents, we start play by old rules again.
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Sentinel Eeex
Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 23:00:00 -
[226]
Originally by: matty01
Originally by: Tzrailasa plus of cause the ~90 man AAA gang who ran away again when they saw the way the battle was going....
AAA gang got stuck and had to be moved by a GM
You couldn't be stuck. Server logs show no problems
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Rochel Hakiri
principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.14 23:07:00 -
[227]
Originally by: LUKEC
Originally by: Scavok Superior tactics and skill obviously, congrats on your well earned victory
Mad props for engaging
You deserve a medal just for saying that! I guess it took a lot of skillpoints and experience to do this turkey shooting.
You guys are so fantastic!
Chapeau
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maria stallion
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 23:10:00 -
[228]
Edited by: maria stallion on 14/09/2007 23:10:17
Originally by: Rochel Hakiri
Originally by: LUKEC
Originally by: Scavok Superior tactics and skill obviously, congrats on your well earned victory
Mad props for engaging
You deserve a medal just for saying that! I guess it took a lot of skillpoints and experience to do this turkey shooting.
You guys are so fantastic!
Chapeau
Thanx!!!, but I have to say gratz to you guys aswell, you are a bunch of really great turkies
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 23:12:00 -
[229]
Originally by: Mutant we start play by old rules again.
OLD Rules:
Log off Log on Fit Stabs switch safe spots every 5 seconds
Mad props for TCF to threaten about canceling their aco****s if no reimburment , you guys rock
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Rochel Hakiri
principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.14 23:14:00 -
[230]
Whatevar dude, but please stay away from the forums next time you lose a fight, and restart posting with your alt, like you suppose to
please..
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USN CVN72
Caldari Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.09.14 23:17:00 -
[231]
After Goonswarms reference to the 9-11 attacks a few days ago and with no open apology given from Goons Leadership i hope BOB kicks your ass...
My views are personal.... Goonswarm you have no class and your a disgrace to the game allowing your own members to post crap like a few days ago... you should be ashamed...
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Sentinel Eeex
Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 23:17:00 -
[232]
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
Originally by: Mutant we start play by old rules again.
OLD Rules:
Log off Log on Fit Stabs switch safe spots every 5 seconds
Much better than:
Get devs into BoB Get T2 BPOs and insider knowledge Get them on MSN
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Nician
Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 23:18:00 -
[233]
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
Originally by: Mutant we start play by old rules again.
OLD Rules:
Log off Log on Fit Stabs switch safe spots every 5 seconds
Mad props for TCF to threaten about canceling their aco****s if no reimburment , you guys rock
How are you aware of this?
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jeffb
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2007.09.14 23:20:00 -
[234]
pies
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Vivian Archemides
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Posted - 2007.09.14 23:22:00 -
[235]
Originally by: Elder Bob
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Nlewis It's funny how all the dread killmails are full of fighters. oh thats right fighters operate the same whether there's lag or not
I don't follow.
Guns = Target ship, press F1+ Fighters = Target ship, order to engage
Lag effects both courses of actions equally.
Except, of course, that fighters auto-aggro, which isn't affected by lag at all.
Oh yes.. the Tech 3 auto-aggro fighters... Im going to have to have a BoB pilot assign me fighters next time instead of someone from my own corp. I need some of those auto-aggro Tech 3 drones.
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Indomitus Rex
Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.09.14 23:24:00 -
[236]
Originally by: USN CVN72 After Goonswarms reference to the 9-11 attacks a few days ago and with no open apology given from Goons Leadership i hope BOB kicks your ass...
My views are personal.... Goonswarm you have no class and your a disgrace to the game allowing your own members to post crap like a few days ago... you should be ashamed...
OH GOD, OUR E-HONOR!!!
90% of Goons are American, right? Probably all Muslims. Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug |
Shinori
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 23:27:00 -
[237]
Edited by: Shinori on 14/09/2007 23:27:35
Originally by: USN CVN72 After Goonswarms reference to the 9-11 attacks a few days ago and with no open apology given from Goons Leadership i hope BOB kicks your ass..
Most goons are north americans and you can be assured they had family, friends and acquaintances lost in the attacks, if they can joke about it, maybe you're the one that needs to lighten up?
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 23:27:00 -
[238]
Sensing the need for a more lag intensive version of the Nyx, Band of Brothers authorities commissioned the design of the Thanatos. Designed to act primarily as a cheatwagon for small- to mid-scale engagements, its significant defensive capabilities and specially-fitted lag bays make it ideal for its intended purpose.
-------- I tanked D2 capital fleet and all I got was truncated Erebus mail.
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Nician
Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 23:31:00 -
[239]
Originally by: LUKEC Sensing the need for a more lag intensive version of the Nyx, Band of Brothers authorities commissioned the design of the Thanatos. Designed to act primarily as a cheatwagon for small- to mid-scale engagements, its significant defensive capabilities and specially-fitted lag bays make it ideal for its intended purpose.
Great what do you have to get one of those loose a titan or something?
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Kola XXX
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 23:31:00 -
[240]
I'm late with this reply but :
"Except, of course, that fighters auto-aggro, which isn't affected by lag at all."
we keep hearing this argument. Fighters can attack during lag and such..
If we all fit f.o.F. missles and spam them or if we all use auto targeting units and have weapons primed it s cheating by goon standards?
If the complaint is more based on "they have too many units and cause too much lag " welp , a fighter is better to bring to a fight than an ibis,velator and less lag because it's not a player :)
"All hell will break loose." seriously important.
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Athena Rivera
Minmatar Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.09.14 23:33:00 -
[241]
Originally by: Neoromi Fleet battle in Revelation 2
Tonight we had a "fleet battle" in OOY-. About 400 people on coalition side, two on BOB side,we jumping on them. Result ? Our fleet annihilated, no one could see nor activate any gun, for some reason enemy fleet was able to shoot 10 ship a minutes. We are asking for every single ship destroyed in OOY- tonight to be fully reimbursed.
Revelation lag in fleet battle has proven to be just as bad if not worse than pre revelation 2 lag, lost synch problem have increased. The end of the Titan era has brought people back into fight, to hit once again the lag wall.
In case of no rembursement off all TCF fleet ship i ll cancel all my eve account .
Please go into your settings and enable corp or alliance to continue posting in CAOD - Kreul Intentions
Neoromi TCF alliance .
It really does surprise me how much the outcome of one or even multiple fleet battles can turn the tide of friend or foe. Yet the one that whines threatens to quit the game because of lag. If people can't play the game for what it is, then just stop playing and leave. Simple.
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 23:33:00 -
[242]
Originally by: Sentinel Eeex
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
Originally by: Mutant we start play by old rules again.
OLD Rules:
Log off Log on Fit Stabs switch safe spots every 5 seconds
Much better than:
Get devs into BoB Get T2 BPOs and insider knowledge Get them on MSN
Dear Dork Star Member
The school of applied knowledge is glad to announce the opening of night classes of " How to count to 100 " . please make sure you register all your alliance members since we have a group discount for goonswarm members.
PS: Epic LULZ
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 23:33:00 -
[243]
Originally by: Nician
Originally by: LUKEC Sensing the need for a more lag intensive version of the Nyx, Band of Brothers authorities commissioned the design of the Thanatos. Designed to act primarily as a cheatwagon for small- to mid-scale engagements, its significant defensive capabilities and specially-fitted lag bays make it ideal for its intended purpose.
Great what do you have to get one of those loose a titan or something?
Nah just have moros somewhere else and fly the cheatwagon. I even fit 4 drone control units. I did 40% more lag with them. -------- I tanked D2 capital fleet and all I got was truncated Erebus mail.
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Sentinel Eeex
Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 23:38:00 -
[244]
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
Dear Dork Star Member
The school of applied knowledge is glad to announce the opening of night classes of " How to count to 100 " . please make sure you register all your alliance members since we have a group discount for goonswarm members.
PS: Epic LULZ
Do they teach unbeatable tactics, or how to fly Thoraxes too?
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Erik Amirault
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 23:38:00 -
[245]
Edited by: Erik Amirault on 14/09/2007 23:38:12 Using massive fighter blobs (causing significant lag) isn't a cheat or a hack. It is however incredibly pathetic and indicative of a general inability to succeed by any other way.
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Lucias Trask
Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.14 23:40:00 -
[246]
Originally by: Erik Amirault Edited by: Erik Amirault on 14/09/2007 23:38:12 Using massive fighter blobs (causing significant lag) isn't a cheat or a hack. It is however incredibly pathetic and indicative of a general inability to succeed by any other way.
What like lag bombing with 150 T1 frigates? [PANIC] |
Cmdr Sp0ck
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 23:41:00 -
[247]
Originally by: Erik Amirault Edited by: Erik Amirault on 14/09/2007 23:38:12 Using massive fighter blobs (causing significant lag) isn't a cheat or a hack. It is however incredibly pathetic and indicative of a general inability to succeed by any other way.
Like needing 3:1 odds or more to actually face your opponent you mean? And when that fails you use the forums to whine and scream so that maybe CCP will do something about it? |
Kola XXX
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 23:42:00 -
[248]
Edited by: Kola XXX on 14/09/2007 23:43:06
Originally by: Erik Amirault Edited by: Erik Amirault on 14/09/2007 23:38:12 Using massive fighter blobs (causing significant lag) isn't a cheat or a hack. It is however incredibly pathetic and indicative of a general inability to succeed by any other way.
Like bringing ibis and shuttles to fleet fights when you run out of ships....oh but that is to intentionally cause lag...only a litte difference . .. . .not our fault we have friends..and friends..and friends..and they all have carriers.
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Sentinel Eeex
Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 23:43:00 -
[249]
Originally by: Cmdr Sp0ck
Originally by: Erik Amirault Edited by: Erik Amirault on 14/09/2007 23:38:12 Using massive fighter blobs (causing significant lag) isn't a cheat or a hack. It is however incredibly pathetic and indicative of a general inability to succeed by any other way.
Like needing 3:1 odds or more to actually face your opponent you mean? And when that fails you use the forums to whine and scream so that maybe CCP will do something about it?
Hold on - who fails: we or CCP?
Oh, let me guess - you are satisfied with current state of EVE servers and their performance, right?
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Zeveron
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 23:43:00 -
[250]
Well nice fight but I didnt see it at all :-) Took me 20 mins to login. 10 mins to load the grid, just to see all enemies dead in wrecks :-)
Ahhh nvm, I hope I ll be lucky next time :-)
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Erik Amirault
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 23:46:00 -
[251]
Yea, who would have thought that bringing new people into the game is such an evil thing. It's completely on par with using massive fighter blobs in massively lagged circumstances to kill ships before any players can actually do something. What was I thinking, i'm so crazy. You guys are reaching incredibly far to equivocate the two circumstances when one circumstance is completely out of the players hands (lag/fighters) and the other is not (recruitment, participation and alliance building).
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joshua cane
Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.14 23:50:00 -
[252]
Originally by: Neoromi Fleet battle in Revelation 2
Tonight we had a "fleet battle" in OOY-. About 400 people on coalition side, two on BOB side,we jumping on them. Result ? Our fleet annihilated, no one could see nor activate any gun, for some reason enemy fleet was able to shoot 10 ship a minutes. We are asking for every single ship destroyed in OOY- tonight to be fully reimbursed.
Revelation lag in fleet battle has proven to be just as bad if not worse than pre revelation 2 lag, lost synch problem have increased. The end of the Titan era has brought people back into fight, to hit once again the lag wall.
In case of no rembursement off all TCF fleet ship i ll cancel all my eve account .
Please go into your settings and enable corp or alliance to continue posting in CAOD - Kreul Intentions
Neoromi TCF alliance .
Neoromi isn't a tcf member , he 's only a poor noob in a newb corp
flam spotted
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Pestilent Industries Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.09.14 23:51:00 -
[253]
Edited by: Rhaegor Stormborn on 14/09/2007 23:54:11
Originally by: Erik Amirault Edited by: Erik Amirault on 14/09/2007 23:38:12 Using massive fighter blobs (causing significant lag) isn't a cheat or a hack. It is however incredibly pathetic and indicative of a general inability to succeed by any other way.
Train some skills, get your own carriers, and use your own "auto-aggro" fighters. No one is stopping you. Quit crying about people using commonplace capital ships within the developer provided ruleset and game mechanics. You Goons are like a bunch of screaming school girls reapting the same crap over and over when things don't go your way. I am suprised Red Alliance has aligned themselves with such a shameful pack of idiots.
Rhaegor Stormborn Fleet Admiral - Pestilent Industries Amalgamated [PIA] Recruitment Thread |
Kola XXX
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 23:52:00 -
[254]
"Yea, who would have thought that bringing new people into the game is such an evil thing"
this is the justification for bringing shuttles and noob ships to battles involving caps and supercaps ??.. all new players can fly at least frigs . . .order have been issued from the top of your alliance and the coalition to bring crap and shuttle when out of ships and during "epic fights" . . . .there is no spin for it.
As for the "bringing new people to the game " crap " . . .allowing people to build wealth in your little area of space then scamming them has proly got more players out of eve than in.
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Cmdr Sp0ck
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 23:53:00 -
[255]
Originally by: Sentinel Eeex
Originally by: Cmdr Sp0ck
Originally by: Erik Amirault Edited by: Erik Amirault on 14/09/2007 23:38:12 Using massive fighter blobs (causing significant lag) isn't a cheat or a hack. It is however incredibly pathetic and indicative of a general inability to succeed by any other way.
Like needing 3:1 odds or more to actually face your opponent you mean? And when that fails you use the forums to whine and scream so that maybe CCP will do something about it?
Hold on - who fails: we or CCP?
Oh, let me guess - you are satisfied with current state of EVE servers and their performance, right?
Don't twist it. The fact is that some Goon members feel the need to blame us for the lag: bringing in lots of fighters, bringing in blobs, etc. This is ironic and hypocritical to say the least when it is your alliance that uses superior numbers to fight it's opponents.
Otherwise, yes, CCP fails when they create content which the servers clearly can't handle when used - territorial conquest and the big fleet battles it leads to. No i am not satisfied with how the servers are. But you don't see us blaming you for the current state of the servers, or for bringing blobs, etc. |
Szass Tam
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.14 23:54:00 -
[256]
Edited by: Szass Tam on 14/09/2007 23:53:50
Originally by: joshua cane
flam spotted
Capitaaaaaaaaaaaaaaine Flam tu n'es pas ... de notreeeeuh galaxieeee, mais du fond de l'espaccccce, Capitaine Flaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam ...
Respect for bringing it. Unimpressed by the whinning.
BOB 4TW. |
Erik Amirault
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 00:01:00 -
[257]
Edited by: Erik Amirault on 15/09/2007 00:01:59 That's the biggest load of bull ever. When our newer players run out of ships in the area they use frigates. Frigates are legitimate ships, flown by players, with modules activated by players. That is a perfectly legitimate tactic. I have never heard anyone say to bring random newbie ships to "lag out a system." Additionally, the point is that with cyno-jammers in the game, major battles are going to be determined by who has the most drones active in a system rather than who brings the most pilots, better equipped pilots or more experienced pilots (all of which require actual people). I'm not sure what can be done to adjust drones but needless to say it is in fact a sad strategy.
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Agmar
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 00:02:00 -
[258]
First page in an epic thread. Furthermore, _______
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Pestilent Industries Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.09.15 00:02:00 -
[259]
Originally by: Erik Amirault That's the biggest load of bull ever. When our newer players run out of ships in the area they use frigates. Frigates are legitimate ships, flown my players, with modules activated by players. That is a perfectly legitimate tactic. I have never heard anyone say to bring random newbie ships to "lag out a system." Additionally, the point is that with cyno-jammers in the game, major battles are going to be determined by who has the most drones active in a system rather than who brings the most pilots, better equipped pilots or more experienced pilots (all of which require actual people). I'm not sure what can be done to adjust drones but needless to say it is in fact a sad strategy.
I think you mean effective strategy. Looks like you need to get yourself into a Carrier so you can pwn some BoB ass.
Rhaegor Stormborn Fleet Admiral - Pestilent Industries Amalgamated [PIA] Recruitment Thread |
paracidic
Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.15 00:03:00 -
[260]
Edited by: paracidic on 15/09/2007 00:06:38 I spent 15 minutes at the r97 gate thinking I was at wrong gate. Nothing was there. Just me and the jump gate. I saw my ship get bumped but never saw what bumped me. I could see the gate activate but never saw anything. The all of a sudden I wa sin the middle of the second level of hells fury.
I gotta say on behalf of RMF that was frggin ballsy of you guys to jump in knowing that the lag monster would eat us all. Kudos for the big brass balls. Thanks
\ edit: oh yeah props for the dude that brought his CNR.
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How could they know what we are going to do? We have no idea what we are going to do.
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Sentinel Eeex
Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 00:13:00 -
[261]
Originally by: Cmdr Sp0ck
Don't twist it. The fact is that some Goon members feel the need to blame us for the lag: bringing in lots of fighters, bringing in blobs, etc. This is ironic and hypocritical to say the least when it is your alliance that uses superior numbers to fight it's opponents.
Nothing like GBC did in 25s, for example, right? Don't twist it.
Quote:
Otherwise, yes, CCP fails when they create content which the servers clearly can't handle when used - territorial conquest and the big fleet battles it leads to. No i am not satisfied with how the servers are. But you don't see us blaming you for the current state of the servers, or for bringing blobs, etc.
I bet you'd be blaming if you jumped into 66- to at least try to defend some of 34 large towers.
But you didn't. Ever wondered why? Ask your leaders (of course, words 'strategical' and 'tactical' will be fed to you, but... worth a try).
And of course, you don't blame us for lag or blobbing. Your alts and pets are pretty effective in doing it 24/7, no need for mains to get involved as well.
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Uinein
Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2007.09.15 00:14:00 -
[262]
Originally by: Erik Amirault Edited by: Erik Amirault on 14/09/2007 23:38:12 Using massive fighter blobs (causing significant lag) isn't a cheat or a hack. It is however incredibly pathetic and indicative of a general inability to succeed by any other way.
L L now that is serious business
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Kaaii
Caldari Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.09.15 00:15:00 -
[263]
This fight, brought to you by the number 109.
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while it was terribly laggy, I crashed out right as you all jumped in, I can't help but wonder when we first jumped into (r97?) next to 00y, and you all had setup so nicely, the lag was just a small bit better.
Did you all lag that bad when we jumped in that you couldn't target shoot anything? It took me forever to get locks, and by that time the target was destroyed. I ended up chasing primarys once we started calling them, only to have them die before I could do anything. I think the numbers were about even, maybe a few more either way. what 60+?
How is it that you didn't fair any better on that engagement? Was it lag? Just wondering.
According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
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Blue Medusa
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 00:18:00 -
[264]
Originally by: Erik Amirault Yea, who would have thought that bringing new people into the game is such an evil thing. It's completely on par with using massive fighter blobs in massively lagged circumstances to kill ships before any players can actually do something. What was I thinking, i'm so crazy. You guys are reaching incredibly far to equivocate the two circumstances when one circumstance is completely out of the players hands (lag/fighters) and the other is not (recruitment, participation and alliance building).
They hate low SP characters that want to bring it I knew it!
I completely forgot this war is only for high SP elitist****gots. We're not worthy of loading the grid cause we fly t1 ships and have more friends
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Sentinel Eeex
Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 00:21:00 -
[265]
Originally by: Kaaii
This fight, brought to you by the number 109.
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while it was terribly laggy, I crashed out right as you all jumped in, I can't help but wonder when we first jumped into (r97?) next to 00y, and you all had setup so nicely, the lag was just a small bit better.
Did you all lag that bad when we jumped in that you couldn't target shoot anything? It took me forever to get locks, and by that time the target was destroyed. I ended up chasing primarys once we started calling them, only to have them die before I could do anything. I think the numbers were about even, maybe a few more either way. what 60+?
How is it that you didn't fair any better on that engagement? Was it lag? Just wondering.
Wild guess - you outnumbered gang on the gate and cynoed in capitals?
No. GBC would never outnumber/outblob someone, so I must be wrong.
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Inturist
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 00:21:00 -
[266]
Originally by: Cmdr Sp0ck
Originally by: Pastora Honestly, there was no lag. Ask CCP! Logs show no lag, so there was none. We are too hyperactive. Track your time. Base, base, base...
There is no server lag. Only our ISP and computer problems...
QFT --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Drago Vanguard
Vanguard Corporation
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Posted - 2007.09.15 00:22:00 -
[267]
Edited by: Drago Vanguard on 15/09/2007 00:22:25 I've never seen a bigger pack of whinny ******* in my life. You should all consider thinking before posting.
Respect to those who quietly accepted the craptastic lag like men instead of whinning and blaming the enemy for it.
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Detaitiv
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.09.15 00:30:00 -
[268]
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
Originally by: Sentinel Eeex
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
Originally by: Mutant we start play by old rules again.
OLD Rules:
Log off Log on Fit Stabs switch safe spots every 5 seconds
Much better than:
Get devs into BoB Get T2 BPOs and insider knowledge Get them on MSN
Dear Dork Star Member
The school of applied knowledge is glad to announce the opening of night classes of " How to count to 100 " . please make sure you register all your alliance members since we have a group discount for goonswarm members.
PS: Epic LULZ
Guess it's asking too much of you to own a bit of class, or demonstrate a bit of shame for something that you should be dame ashamed of.
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Nician
Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 00:52:00 -
[269]
Originally by: Kaaii
This fight, brought to you by the number 109.
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while it was terribly laggy, I crashed out right as you all jumped in, I can't help but wonder when we first jumped into (r97?) next to 00y, and you all had setup so nicely, the lag was just a small bit better.
Did you all lag that bad when we jumped in that you couldn't target shoot anything? It took me forever to get locks, and by that time the target was destroyed. I ended up chasing primarys once we started calling them, only to have them die before I could do anything. I think the numbers were about even, maybe a few more either way. what 60+?
How is it that you didn't fair any better on that engagement? Was it lag? Just wondering.
Also shrike cyno'ed into local at an attempt to DD our support fleet I suppose so we all retreated because we wanted to loose them in the black screen in 0oy.
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Hortoken Wolfbrother
Amarr Free Lapland YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.09.15 01:02:00 -
[270]
Goons go all crazy over finding forum **** in their enemies forums. Goons' enemies need only look to caod to find goon's forum ****.
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Pasha Cracken
Caldari Thanos and Killjoy Productions Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.15 01:08:00 -
[271]
Quote: edit: oh yeah props for the dude that brought his CNR.
lmfao ----- Proud owner of infernal Gaming Community Click here! to view our awesome site!
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Jonathan Peterbilt
Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2007.09.15 01:09:00 -
[272]
Edited by: Jonathan Peterbilt on 15/09/2007 01:10:56
Originally by: Blue Medusa
Originally by: Erik Amirault Yea, who would have thought that bringing new people into the game is such an evil thing. It's completely on par with using massive fighter blobs in massively lagged circumstances to kill ships before any players can actually do something. What was I thinking, i'm so crazy. You guys are reaching incredibly far to equivocate the two circumstances when one circumstance is completely out of the players hands (lag/fighters) and the other is not (recruitment, participation and alliance building).
They hate low SP characters that want to bring it I knew it!
I completely forgot this war is only for high SP elitist****gots. We're not worthy of loading the grid cause we fly t1 ships and have more friends
Orly? So you think you should be able to join the game, spend 1 day in high sec learning how to play, jump directly in 00 space in your 3 mil ISK cruiser, scream in local "I am a Goon,I will pwn you all because you all suck !" and then proceed to kill just about every 4 years old character you run into? That my friend is why no1 in EVE has any respect for you and your Goon friends, you dont want to earn resepect and you will never receive it. Most of you will play EVE for a few months and leave anyways...
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FowlPlayChiken
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.09.15 01:13:00 -
[273]
Edited by: FowlPlayChiken on 15/09/2007 01:14:41
Originally by: Shinori Edited by: Shinori on 14/09/2007 23:27:35
Originally by: USN CVN72 After Goonswarms reference to the 9-11 attacks a few days ago and with no open apology given from Goons Leadership i hope BOB kicks your ass..
Most goons are north americans and you can be assured they had family, friends and acquaintances lost in the attacks, if they can joke about it, maybe you're the one that needs to lighten up?
Odd that the americans in other alliances find joking about the greatest tradgedy in US history horribly insensitive and tasteless, such as myself, but the Americans in goonswarm find it amusing. Perhaps this reflects on the calibre of the average goon player. I hate to flame, as its not my style, but ANY jokes about something like that, at this stage, are in very poor taste. Its too soon. Even halocaust jokes are tasteless, and it happened sixty years+ ago. Learn some respect for the men and woman who died, and dont try and rationalise trivialising the 9-11 attacks. Im appalled, frankly.
bawk
http://nhimebaugh.wetpaint.com/ Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
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Dr Smythe
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 01:31:00 -
[274]
Edited by: Dr Smythe on 15/09/2007 01:31:42
Originally by: FowlPlayChiken Edited by: FowlPlayChiken on 15/09/2007 01:14:41
Originally by: Shinori Edited by: Shinori on 14/09/2007 23:27:35
Originally by: USN CVN72 After Goonswarms reference to the 9-11 attacks a few days ago and with no open apology given from Goons Leadership i hope BOB kicks your ass..
Most goons are north americans and you can be assured they had family, friends and acquaintances lost in the attacks, if they can joke about it, maybe you're the one that needs to lighten up?
Odd that the americans in other alliances find joking about the greatest tradgedy in US history horribly insensitive and tasteless, such as myself, but the Americans in goonswarm find it amusing. Perhaps this reflects on the calibre of the average goon player. I hate to flame, as its not my style, but ANY jokes about something like that, at this stage, are in very poor taste. Its too soon. Even halocaust jokes are tasteless, and it happened sixty years+ ago. Learn some respect for the men and woman who died, and dont try and rationalise trivialising the 9-11 attacks. Im appalled, frankly.
bawk
QFT
I'm not even American and I wouldn't say those things but my best friends cousin died in the towers and I find any jokes or humour of any sort offensive.
You guys need to be given a reality check on these forums tbh.
If you feel the need to joke about these things do it amongst yourselves on your own forums or in your corp or alliance chat.
btw good going BoB and friends sorry I couldn't be there. Hopefully RA will now get some sense and distance themselves from these goons.
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TWD
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 01:39:00 -
[275]
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Drago Vanguard
Vanguard Corporation
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Posted - 2007.09.15 01:41:00 -
[276]
Edited by: Drago Vanguard on 15/09/2007 01:42:31
Originally by: Dr Smythe
btw good going BoB and friends sorry I couldn't be there. Hopefully RA will now get some sense and distance themselves from these goons.
It was basically tantamount to making a joke of the Beslan School tragedy, perhaps much worse.
Goons have proven themselves to be scum and anyone who remains Allies with them is scum by proxy.
I don't understand how anybody could hate BoB for 'cheating in an internet spaceship game' while siding with the Goons who trivialize and make jokes of 9/11.
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Nebba Kenezzer
Minmatar Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 01:42:00 -
[277]
In the words of Christina Aguilera:
"Come on over, come on over, baby."
Nebba - The Vocal Majority
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Wizie
Minmatar e X i l e FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.15 01:48:00 -
[278]
Damn goons, show some respect for the people who died in 911, my Uncle Mohammed died as he was on one of the planes as a passenger.
Well actually more a pilot than a passenger lmao
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.09.15 01:49:00 -
[279]
Props to BoB & Co. for bringing it.
And by "it", I mean "fighterblob".
Fair enough though I guess. It was only a matter of time until you finally found a counter to RSF. It will be interesting to see how they counter, and I bet it ends in lots of dead carriers and motherships.
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Erotic Irony
0bsession
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Posted - 2007.09.15 01:54:00 -
[280]
Originally by: FowlPlayChiken Edited by: FowlPlayChiken on 15/09/2007 01:14:41
Originally by: Shinori Edited by: Shinori on 14/09/2007 23:27:35
Originally by: USN CVN72 After Goonswarms reference to the 9-11 attacks a few days ago and with no open apology given from Goons Leadership i hope BOB kicks your ass..
Most goons are north americans and you can be assured they had family, friends and acquaintances lost in the attacks, if they can joke about it, maybe you're the one that needs to lighten up?
Odd that the americans in other alliances find joking about the greatest tradgedy in US history horribly insensitive and tasteless, such as myself, but the Americans in goonswarm find it amusing. Perhaps this reflects on the calibre of the average goon player. I hate to flame, as its not my style, but ANY jokes about something like that, at this stage, are in very poor taste. Its too soon. Even halocaust jokes are tasteless, and it happened sixty years+ ago. Learn some respect for the men and woman who died, and dont try and rationalise trivialising the 9-11 attacks. Im appalled, frankly.
bawk
they are satirizing your exaggerated sense of self-righteous indignation and hilarious language & symbolism of these forums--that you and CVN and others consistently bring real life analogies here and equate fleet battles with the battle of verdun or other such nonesense is the real pathology
you're so appalled by "halocaust," jokes you couldn't be bothered to spell it correctly?
well I never ___ Support Killmail Overhaul
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torN Deception
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 01:55:00 -
[281]
Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn I think you mean effective strategy. Looks like you need to get yourself into a Carrier so you can pwn some BoB ass.
To really make things even, Goonswarm needs to be given its own cheating developer for several months. Make my free dev-spawned BPO a vagabond please! |
Frug
Zenithal Harvest 101010 Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.15 01:56:00 -
[282]
Originally by: torN Deception
To really make things even, Goonswarm needs to be given its own cheating developer for several months. Make my free dev-spawned BPO a vagabond please!
That's right! No matter how much you guys get pwned, you can always cry back about that to make yourself feel better. Sweet deal really. GJ
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Wizie
Minmatar e X i l e FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.15 01:57:00 -
[283]
Originally by: Frug
Originally by: torN Deception
To really make things even, Goonswarm needs to be given its own cheating developer for several months. Make my free dev-spawned BPO a vagabond please!
That's right! No matter how much you guys get pwned, you can always cry back about that to make yourself feel better. Sweet deal really. GJ
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HostageTaker
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 02:29:00 -
[284]
I was ****ed when I couldn't be on for the OP... I was happy when I saw the killboard... I am crying from laughter after reading this thread!
Oh silly gonnies, when will you learn... hahaha
Watching you clowns ***** and moan about lag, LAG!!! when you're the biggest offenders... hilarity of the highest degree!
This thread is: 50% WIN 50% LULZ 50% LEGENDARY
That's 150% MOFOs!!!
>>> EvE-Online Wallpapers <<< |
Alexander Knott
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 02:33:00 -
[285]
Originally by: FowlPlayChiken Odd that the americans in other alliances find joking about the greatest tradgedy in US history horribly insensitive and tasteless, such as myself, but the Americans in goonswarm find it amusing. Perhaps this reflects on the calibre of the average goon player. I hate to flame, as its not my style, but ANY jokes about something like that, at this stage, are in very poor taste. Its too soon. Even halocaust jokes are tasteless, and it happened sixty years+ ago. Learn some respect for the men and woman who died, and dont try and rationalise trivialising the 9-11 attacks. Im appalled, frankly.
This statement shows an appalling ignorance of US history. It is chock full of tragedies that make the 9/11 attacks look like a bloody nose. Which is not to say that 9/11 wasn't a tragedy for the US and eventually Iraq as well, but 'greatest tragedy in US history'? Hardly.
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Elenath
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.09.15 02:48:00 -
[286]
Goons win = they brag about mad skillz that they don't have
Goons lose = they cry like little girls about cheating and make 9/11 jokes
BoB win = forum silence
BoB lose = forum silence
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Wizie
Minmatar e X i l e FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.15 02:51:00 -
[287]
Originally by: Elenath Goons win = they brag about mad skillz that they don't have
Goons lose = they cry like little girls about cheating and make 9/11 jokes
BoB win = forum silence
BoB lose = forum silence
Yeah BoB are always silent on the forums yes sir, you know except for when they kill a mothership given away by one of their members lmao.
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Benibara Ryoko
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Posted - 2007.09.15 03:01:00 -
[288]
Originally by: Kola XXX
to battles involving caps and supercaps ??..
Elitest****got, all ships have their place in battle.
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EdFromHumanResources
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 03:03:00 -
[289]
Edited by: EdFromHumanResources on 15/09/2007 03:03:24
Originally by: Elenath Goons win = they brag about mad skillz that they don't have
Goons lose = they cry like little girls about cheating and make 9/11 jokes
BoB win = forum silence
BoB lose = forum silence
So what you're saying is that you don't read the forums?
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.09.15 03:09:00 -
[290]
Originally by: Elenath
BoB win = forum silence
BoB lose = forum silence
You are deluded or have a VERY short memory
BOB are the chest beating, spin queens
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Erect
He's Erect
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Posted - 2007.09.15 03:09:00 -
[291]
Originally by: Alexander Knott
Originally by: FowlPlayChiken Odd that the americans in other alliances find joking about the greatest tradgedy in US history horribly insensitive and tasteless, such as myself, but the Americans in goonswarm find it amusing. Perhaps this reflects on the calibre of the average goon player. I hate to flame, as its not my style, but ANY jokes about something like that, at this stage, are in very poor taste. Its too soon. Even halocaust jokes are tasteless, and it happened sixty years+ ago. Learn some respect for the men and woman who died, and dont try and rationalise trivialising the 9-11 attacks. Im appalled, frankly.
This statement shows an appalling ignorance of US history. It is chock full of tragedies that make the 9/11 attacks look like a bloody nose. Which is not to say that 9/11 wasn't a tragedy for the US and eventually Iraq as well, but 'greatest tragedy in US history'? Hardly.
I'm a US history professor, please enlighten us?
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Kaldaine
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 03:10:00 -
[292]
What a lovely thread
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Citric Acid
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 03:12:00 -
[293]
THIS THREAD
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Icomeinpeace
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 03:15:00 -
[294]
LAG? Goons you can't be serious, is that all you got? That and bringing up old t20 crap again?
Pathetic.Thanks for the laugh though.
This war isn't over baby, see you in nol.
Oh and on a less flamey note, I missed the action today so lets have more.If you got complaints about lag it happens to us all so stfu and gimme your stuff.
Bob hardly creates threads about bob, just responds to them.I don't even think we started most of the cap kill threads or most of the bob threads even.
Lets get it on ooooo yea
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.09.15 03:18:00 -
[295]
Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 15/09/2007 03:18:29
Originally by: Icomeinpeace LAG? Goons you can't be serious, is that all you got? That and bringing up old t20 crap again?
Pathetic.Thanks for the laugh though.
This war isn't over baby, see you in nol.
Oh and on a less flamey note, I missed the action today so lets have more.If you got complaints about lag it happens to us all so stfu and gimme your stuff.
Bob hardly creates threads about bob, just responds to them.I don't even think we started most of the cap kill threads or most of the bob threads even.
Lets get it on ooooo yea
Forum silence
PS..how's Shrike?
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FowlPlayChiken
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.09.15 03:20:00 -
[296]
PULL! gf:-d
http://nhimebaugh.wetpaint.com/ Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
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Kaldaine
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 03:23:00 -
[297]
Originally by: Erect
Originally by: Alexander Knott
Originally by: FowlPlayChiken Odd that the americans in other alliances find joking about the greatest tradgedy in US history horribly insensitive and tasteless, such as myself, but the Americans in goonswarm find it amusing. Perhaps this reflects on the calibre of the average goon player. I hate to flame, as its not my style, but ANY jokes about something like that, at this stage, are in very poor taste. Its too soon. Even halocaust jokes are tasteless, and it happened sixty years+ ago. Learn some respect for the men and woman who died, and dont try and rationalise trivialising the 9-11 attacks. Im appalled, frankly.
This statement shows an appalling ignorance of US history. It is chock full of tragedies that make the 9/11 attacks look like a bloody nose. Which is not to say that 9/11 wasn't a tragedy for the US and eventually Iraq as well, but 'greatest tragedy in US history'? Hardly.
I'm a US history professor, please enlighten us?
There are none. Every single member of Goonswarm is a draft dodging (if there was a draft at least), unpatriotic, insensitive, callously and intentionally hateful bastard that hates their country. Not one of us has served, is serving or will serve or support the US Military in any capacity. I also refuse to put a yellow sticker on my car.
Thankfully, the US Military supports me and my first amendment right to free speech.
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Depp Knight
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 03:32:00 -
[298]
Originally by: MacQueen This thread is really bitter, and I do not know why. People take their space games seriously, but I suppose it is frustrating lagging and getting no help from the GMs. Sportsmanship from goons and bob is awful right here. The game is broken, I'm sure BoB is lagging out as well, and that sucks. Hopefully ccp will fix the lag with Revelations 3.
Have fun BoB, you're doing really well and looks like you're having a blast.
It does make me sad though that instead of congratulating eachother on a good fight, everyone is simply full of bitter comments about dev misconduct, or how goons are trash and don't deserve to play the game.
This game gets too serious sometimes. (can we conga together or no?)
I agree, though I do get serious about the game I still believe in sportsmanship. Lag is terrible btw. CCP fix it damnit.
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IC Serathu
ISD Interstellar Correspondents
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Posted - 2007.09.15 03:37:00 -
[299]
Thread cleaned.
Please keep it on-topic, friendly and constructive here folks otherwise I will have to start issuing warnings.
Thank you!
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Kaldaine
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 03:40:00 -
[300]
Originally by: Depp Knight
Originally by: MacQueen This thread is really bitter, and I do not know why. People take their space games seriously, but I suppose it is frustrating lagging and getting no help from the GMs. Sportsmanship from goons and bob is awful right here. The game is broken, I'm sure BoB is lagging out as well, and that sucks. Hopefully ccp will fix the lag with Revelations 3.
Have fun BoB, you're doing really well and looks like you're having a blast.
It does make me sad though that instead of congratulating eachother on a good fight, everyone is simply full of bitter comments about dev misconduct, or how goons are trash and don't deserve to play the game.
This game gets too serious sometimes. (can we conga together or no?)
I agree, though I do get serious about the game I still believe in sportsmanship. Lag is terrible btw. CCP fix it damnit.
I require a good 2 hours a night of hating my internet spaceship enemies. Its a good break from beating my dog.
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FowlPlayChiken
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.09.15 03:41:00 -
[301]
another gf. balls for bringing it to us. Pull!
http://nhimebaugh.wetpaint.com/ Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
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Citric Acid
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 03:43:00 -
[302]
We had no chance. Whatever.
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Zeoliter
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 03:46:00 -
[303]
[WTS]: Tissues
109 boxes of tissues up on contract in Jita.
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dastommy79
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.15 03:47:00 -
[304]
BOB i dont like you. You are arogant ****s. Goonswarm are arogant ****s but they dont take the game to seriously.
This issue is what will be your eventualy downfall. Now spawn me a thanatos please.
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WrathOfOprah
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 03:51:00 -
[305]
Originally by: Zeoliter [WTS]: Tissues
109 boxes of tissues up on contract in Jita.
What was that? I'm still trying to activate my modules.
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Shoukei
Boobs Ahoy
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Posted - 2007.09.15 03:51:00 -
[306]
Originally by: dastommy79 BOB i dont like you. You are arogant ****s. Goonswarm are arogant ****s but they dont take the game to seriously.
This issue is what will be your eventualy downfall. Now spawn me a thanatos please.
goons don't take the game seriously, they only spend real life money to buy capital ships/pilots.
here be signatures! |
Caliwyrm O'Libr
The Silent Rage R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.09.15 03:52:00 -
[307]
Wow, where are all the 1 man alt corps in this thread?
Oh, BoB is posting with their mains.. They must have won or something.. =======
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Kaldaine
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 03:56:00 -
[308]
Originally by: Shoukei
Originally by: dastommy79 BOB i dont like you. You are arogant ****s. Goonswarm are arogant ****s but they dont take the game to seriously.
This issue is what will be your eventualy downfall. Now spawn me a thanatos please.
goons don't take the game seriously, they only spend real life money to buy capital ships/pilots.
I spent all week copying bookmarks into reapers. True story. Had to call in sick from work though, might have trouble making rent this month.
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olddone
Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.15 03:57:00 -
[309]
I was fully loaded at the gate watch goons jump in ........to there.....lag death. During the entire fight I could not get one lock in my BB. CCP style fleet fight still sucks eggs.
The will to fight is all you need to kill them, and a few friends. |
Julie Claw
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Posted - 2007.09.15 03:58:00 -
[310]
Alt post removed - post with your main! If this is your main, see the rules for details on how to stop your posts getting removed - Serathu ([email protected])
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Crewmen Redshirt
Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.15 04:02:00 -
[311]
I think was the 1st GBC to die, well that kinda makes sense
Grats to Goons, RA and TAU for bringing it
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forumus trollus
Minmatar We live under bridges inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.15 04:23:00 -
[312]
I quit playing this game, last week giving all my accounts away. I think its pretty silly to pay for a product which doesn't work.
I find it humorous that any of you even chestbeat when you win a battle. regardless of whether Bob or RSF win a battle these days its generally determined by the lag, not by skill.
Bob keep saying goons bring t1 frigs to a battle to lag it up. RSF accuse bob of the fighter spam. You blame each other for doing exactly what the game inteneded, when really it is the inability off ccp to propvide a working product that gives you these tragic stop motion battles.
Of course bob are going to bring more cap ships. They have a playerbase of extrememly high skillpoints. Id be surprised if there are many pilots in their ranks who cant fly a carrier. To think they wouldnt field them is pretty stupid, and to suggest that dreads would make more sense in a fleet battle is also laughable.
On the other hand we have bob accusing rsf of bringing crappy t1 ships to the battle. Sadly, there are always going to be newer players in this game and you dont accept them in your alliance, so guess what, they are probably going to be on the other side. A shuttle is a perfectly good fleet member if it draws primary fire away from another ship. (of course this is relying on a pretty awful opposing fc, but in the current lag quagmire most battles turns into, who knows.)
So here we find ourselves, bickering over who broke the microwave. The one who put too many chicken wings in or the one who put too much pizza in. Everyone enjoys the microwave enough to not want to throw it out the window.
I threw it out the window, not because I didnt like it, but because after the last year of subscription costs, I have seen all of these issues get worse not better, as a consumer, this isnt something I accept.
Good luck to all of you in future, but in 6 months when people look at the alliance map itd be nice to know someone actually carved out a chunk of it for themselves. This beats knowing that the space was given out according to lag lottery allocations. Sadly, I can't find the same kind of epic space battles in my new mmo, however, neither could i find them in Eve anymore.
So yeh this is my first non-biased post so I hope you all enjoy it. Broken game. Lag Dice decide battle outcomes. Ghey
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Dagam
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 04:30:00 -
[313]
hey contract me your stuff if you're quitting
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jernej
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 04:30:00 -
[314]
Originally by: LUKEC I admit, I'm guilty. I cheated.
I used carrier with fighters
You are a nasty, bad, naughty bououy!
Originally by: Evil Thug ...is barely possible due to imbalanced location agents. We managed to get bob only twice with login trap...
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Kif
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 04:33:00 -
[315]
Originally by: forumus trollus I quit playing this game, last week giving all my accounts away. I think its pretty silly to pay for a product which doesn't work.
I find it humorous that any of you even chestbeat when you win a battle. regardless of whether Bob or RSF win a battle these days its generally determined by the lag, not by skill.
Bob keep saying goons bring t1 frigs to a battle to lag it up. RSF accuse bob of the fighter spam. You blame each other for doing exactly what the game inteneded, when really it is the inability off ccp to propvide a working product that gives you these tragic stop motion battles.
Of course bob are going to bring more cap ships. They have a playerbase of extrememly high skillpoints. Id be surprised if there are many pilots in their ranks who cant fly a carrier. To think they wouldnt field them is pretty stupid, and to suggest that dreads would make more sense in a fleet battle is also laughable.
On the other hand we have bob accusing rsf of bringing crappy t1 ships to the battle. Sadly, there are always going to be newer players in this game and you dont accept them in your alliance, so guess what, they are probably going to be on the other side. A shuttle is a perfectly good fleet member if it draws primary fire away from another ship. (of course this is relying on a pretty awful opposing fc, but in the current lag quagmire most battles turns into, who knows.)
So here we find ourselves, bickering over who broke the microwave. The one who put too many chicken wings in or the one who put too much pizza in. Everyone enjoys the microwave enough to not want to throw it out the window.
I threw it out the window, not because I didnt like it, but because after the last year of subscription costs, I have seen all of these issues get worse not better, as a consumer, this isnt something I accept.
Good luck to all of you in future, but in 6 months when people look at the alliance map itd be nice to know someone actually carved out a chunk of it for themselves. This beats knowing that the space was given out according to lag lottery allocations. Sadly, I can't find the same kind of epic space battles in my new mmo, however, neither could i find them in Eve anymore.
So yeh this is my first non-biased post so I hope you all enjoy it. Broken game. Lag Dice decide battle outcomes. Ghey
really nothing else to say past this.
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Dhan
Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2007.09.15 04:35:00 -
[316]
Eve is a fine game, great for most non-pvp activities (majority of eve does this) and even great for 99% of the fighting. It's the 1% of the fleet fights with numbers over 200-300 that it can't handle very well. I wish that was fixed as well.
Those who claim eve have gotten worse over time, you're wrong. Eve used to have problems handling engagements of 30-40 people in one system. It's much better than the past. Problem is the big fleet fights have gone from 40 in a system to 400-600.
Dhan
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Gaogan
Gallente Solar Storm Sev3rance
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Posted - 2007.09.15 04:43:00 -
[317]
Oh my god! 247 pods and 381 ships destroyed in the last 24 hours!!!!!!!!!
I must say I do miss impass/feyhabolis, but I certainly do not miss the epic lag and node crashes from fights like this.
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Indomitus Rex
Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.09.15 04:45:00 -
[318]
Man. . .BOB loses system after system and we don't get a single post out of them. They win one battle because of pure lag and they come out of the woodwork like*****roaches. Oh how the mighty have fallen.
At least Goons are consistent and run their mouths non-stop win or lose. Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug |
MacQueen
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 04:46:00 -
[319]
Originally by: Dhan Eve is a fine game, great for most non-pvp activities (majority of eve does this) and even great for 99% of the fighting. It's the 1% of the fleet fights with numbers over 200-300 that it can't handle very well. I wish that was fixed as well.
Those who claim eve have gotten worse over time, you're wrong. Eve used to have problems handling engagements of 30-40 people in one system. It's much better than the past. Problem is the big fleet fights have gone from 40 in a system to 400-600.
Dhan
Yep.
Also there's no other MMO that handles 400 players in 1 area well. The technology just may not be there.
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 04:55:00 -
[320]
Originally by: Indomitus Rex Man. . .BOB loses system after system and we don't get a single post out of them. They win one battle because of pure lag and they come out of the woodwork like*****roaches. Oh how the mighty have fallen.
At least Goons are consistent and run their mouths non-stop win or lose.
Actually you'll find we've been silent at times of Victory, too, but I guess that doesn't fit in with your logic so is conveniently forgotten, yes? Reikoku Diplomatic Forums |
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Moonlight Express
Amarr Moonlight Express Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.15 04:56:00 -
[321]
Originally by: Indomitus Rex Man. . .BOB loses system after system and we don't get a single post out of them. They win one battle because of pure lag and they come out of the woodwork like*****roaches. Oh how the mighty have fallen.
At least Goons are consistent and run their mouths non-stop win or lose.
Who started this thread? And what was the purpose for it? And you call BoB*****roaches? The irony.
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Fry Fortune
Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 04:57:00 -
[322]
tbh it's just an honor that bob can't handle us on their own, and brought in absolutely everyone they could.
please "hire" MC some more bob, it adds an element of actual good fcing to your normally ****ty performance.
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Ms DaisyMae
Burning Bush Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.09.15 04:58:00 -
[323]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Indomitus Rex Man. . .BOB loses system after system and we don't get a single post out of them. They win one battle because of pure lag and they come out of the woodwork like*****roaches. Oh how the mighty have fallen.
At least Goons are consistent and run their mouths non-stop win or lose.
Actually you'll find we've been silent at times of Victory, too, but I guess that doesn't fit in with your logic so is conveniently forgotten, yes?
It is just a coincidence that BoB wins a battle, and you post more in this thread in CAOD than in last month.
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Bethykins
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2007.09.15 05:03:00 -
[324]
Originally by: Kif
Originally by: forumus trollus I quit playing this game, last week giving all my accounts away. I think its pretty silly to pay for a product which doesn't work.
I find it humorous that any of you even chestbeat when you win a battle. regardless of whether Bob or RSF win a battle these days its generally determined by the lag, not by skill.
Bob keep saying goons bring t1 frigs to a battle to lag it up. RSF accuse bob of the fighter spam. You blame each other for doing exactly what the game inteneded, when really it is the inability off ccp to propvide a working product that gives you these tragic stop motion battles.
Of course bob are going to bring more cap ships. They have a playerbase of extrememly high skillpoints. Id be surprised if there are many pilots in their ranks who cant fly a carrier. To think they wouldnt field them is pretty stupid, and to suggest that dreads would make more sense in a fleet battle is also laughable.
On the other hand we have bob accusing rsf of bringing crappy t1 ships to the battle. Sadly, there are always going to be newer players in this game and you dont accept them in your alliance, so guess what, they are probably going to be on the other side. A shuttle is a perfectly good fleet member if it draws primary fire away from another ship. (of course this is relying on a pretty awful opposing fc, but in the current lag quagmire most battles turns into, who knows.)
So here we find ourselves, bickering over who broke the microwave. The one who put too many chicken wings in or the one who put too much pizza in. Everyone enjoys the microwave enough to not want to throw it out the window.
I threw it out the window, not because I didnt like it, but because after the last year of subscription costs, I have seen all of these issues get worse not better, as a consumer, this isnt something I accept.
Good luck to all of you in future, but in 6 months when people look at the alliance map itd be nice to know someone actually carved out a chunk of it for themselves. This beats knowing that the space was given out according to lag lottery allocations. Sadly, I can't find the same kind of epic space battles in my new mmo, however, neither could i find them in Eve anymore.
So yeh this is my first non-biased post so I hope you all enjoy it. Broken game. Lag Dice decide battle outcomes. Ghey
really nothing else to say past this.
Agreed.
While this game may be the only option for this type of MMo at this lvl currently it isn't gonna be like that forever, plenty of gameing companies creating games along the same lines and if CCP doesnt watch out they wil have a big population decrease... Personally im already looking into what other options there are to play.. regardless if there is less ocntent to eve atleast the content there will work with the game... Sure the ships and mods look cool looking at a market in empire but when u start to put anything together to defensively hold space or offensively take space we have major issues with the game... regardless of what ccp thinks they need to implment the developers into average players make them rain it up earn isk and join in these battles to see what the hours earning ISK produces when u try and use it...
2 hours( and for most ALOT MORE ) earning isk to see your time invested completely vanish b4 your eyes with n idea how it happened is sickining and then to get the same automated dev response to a petition, EVE started out for the fans by the fans... now with eve voice and card games and stuid additions instead of taking care of their fans the have exploited the fans the same ppl who CCP once called their peers... its time to get off your mighty horse ccp play your own freaking game and start fixing the mess you have created.
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Alice Cholmondeley
I Am Legend
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Posted - 2007.09.15 05:16:00 -
[325]
Originally by: Erik Amirault Yea, who would have thought that bringing new people into the game is such an evil thing. It's completely on par with using massive fighter blobs in massively lagged circumstances to kill ships before any players can actually do something. What was I thinking, i'm so crazy. You guys are reaching incredibly far to equivocate the two circumstances when one circumstance is completely out of the players hands (lag/fighters) and the other is not (recruitment, participation and alliance building).
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dastommy79
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.15 05:19:00 -
[326]
ok i will try this again.
Bob is an arogant group of ****s, goons are also arogant ****s but the dont take the game too seriously.
This issue is gonna be bobs downfall, now go spawn me a Nyx
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Xrensa
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 05:29:00 -
[327]
Well I guess this turned out to be a bit anticlimactic. We just didn't get the numbers to have a chance against the fighter blob. We had a few suicide runs for fun but it seems bob wins this round. Ooy local is down to like 80 so I assume their carriers repped the poses and logged.
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Bethykins
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2007.09.15 05:34:00 -
[328]
Originally by: Dhan Eve is a fine game, great for most non-pvp activities (majority of eve does this) and even great for 99% of the fighting. It's the 1% of the fleet fights with numbers over 200-300 that it can't handle very well. I wish that was fixed as well.
Those who claim eve have gotten worse over time, you're wrong. Eve used to have problems handling engagements of 30-40 people in one system. It's much better than the past. Problem is the big fleet fights have gone from 40 in a system to 400-600.
Dhan
I garantee u can do anything in eve in another MMO and enjoy it alot more. the fun in EVE is its open free for all PVP.. u cant deny it no game to date has come across with anything that even touches what eve has to offer for pvp. You can start to do numbers 400-500k server population total.. 100k+ in alliances holding, living or wanting to live in 0.0 and probably even larger numbers.. close to half the server population imo... in that half those alliances have taken part in large scale pvp fleet battles regardless of what percentage u use its alot higher then that... and would be even higher if ppl wernt avoiding these fights at all costs... ppl have left alliances left 0.0 to gank noobs in low sec to avoid this at all cost aswell... and recently u couldnt even fight a 10-30 person engagement without desyncing and who knows what happens. Sure they have fixed that kinda now... but how many years later are they still dealing with the same number count issues and problems. Many games out there have delt with similar pvp numbers and alot of those games ran the entire game off one server...
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Lube Myholes
Nekkid Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.15 05:34:00 -
[329]
All the BOB bragging after weeks of silence here shows only one thing: After month of bad news you needed that "victory" badly to boost your moral. You have entered CYVOC mode !
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Alice Cholmondeley
I Am Legend
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Posted - 2007.09.15 05:38:00 -
[330]
Originally by: Lube Myholes All the BOB bragging after weeks of silence here shows only one thing: After month of bad news you needed that "victory" badly to boost your moral. You have entered CYVOC mode !
Looks to be a case of goons crying and bobbits responding tbh. No one to blame, goons crying is hilarious. |
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tartrus
Templars of Space Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.15 05:41:00 -
[331]
Originally by: Indomitus Rex Man. . .BOB loses system after system and we don't get a single post out of them. They win one battle because of pure lag and they come out of the woodwork like*****roaches. Oh how the mighty have fallen.
At least Goons are consistent and run their mouths non-stop win or lose.
hehe
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OldPueblo
DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 05:59:00 -
[332]
The true winners of this engagement were the gate rats, for their dirty lagsploiting sneak attacks.
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Ztrain
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 06:00:00 -
[333]
Originally by: Fry Fortune tbh it's just an honor that bob can't handle us on their own, and brought in absolutely everyone they could.
Your right because you never fight alone. Let me list the regulars that we see in nearly every egagment with a healty mix of: Goons RA UNL TCF Venom Ka-Tet Frege Curse KOS We are Nice Guy's AAA Gekaduko (before they vanished) Evoke (every now and then) IAC has been poking around before we even went to catch.
The list goes on. So no we don't handle you just by yourselves. But I'd love to see BoB on Goons just the two alliances lol but you'd never let that one happen. Hell who owns omest. Last I looked it was UNL, TCF, and Venom not Goons.
Z Dr. Ztrain or: How I Learned to Stop Mining and Love the Desync |
Mr Digs
Tyranny INC
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Posted - 2007.09.15 06:14:00 -
[334]
Originally by: Ztrain
Originally by: Fry Fortune tbh it's just an honor that bob can't handle us on their own, and brought in absolutely everyone they could.
Your right because you never fight alone. Let me list the regulars that we see in nearly every egagment with a healty mix of: Goons RA UNL TCF Venom Ka-Tet Frege Curse KOS We are Nice Guy's AAA Gekaduko (before they vanished) Evoke (every now and then) IAC has been poking around before we even went to catch.
The list goes on. So no we don't handle you just by yourselves. But I'd love to see BoB on Goons just the two alliances lol but you'd never let that one happen. Hell who owns omest. Last I looked it was UNL, TCF, and Venom not Goons.
Z
You forget EbayTolons old alliance
Pandemic****etion
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Indomitus Rex
Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.09.15 06:23:00 -
[335]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Indomitus Rex Man. . .BOB loses system after system and we don't get a single post out of them. They win one battle because of pure lag and they come out of the woodwork like*****roaches. Oh how the mighty have fallen.
At least Goons are consistent and run their mouths non-stop win or lose.
Actually you'll find we've been silent at times of Victory, too, but I guess that doesn't fit in with your logic so is conveniently forgotten, yes?
Point out some times recently where you've been victorious? Honestly, Diana, I've missed your rants here on CAOD. You used to be right up there with dbp
with
ridiculous
nonsense and
asshattery.
Glad to see you back. I'm sure it won't be long before you make a fool of yourself and then disappear for another few months. We'll all enjoy your stay as long as it lasts tho! Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug |
ED 209
Old Detroit Crime Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.09.15 06:33:00 -
[336]
Originally by: Cmdr Sp0ck
Originally by: KIATolon
Originally by: TWD Shut up, and shave.
WTS unbeatable setup and emperors new clothes (will trade for calculator)
WTS: CALCULATOR
ROFL
Owned the teh face!
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Alice Cholmondeley
I Am Legend
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Posted - 2007.09.15 06:34:00 -
[337]
Originally by: Indomitus Rex
with
ridiculous
nonsense and
asshattery.
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Altar Mei
Solstice Systems Development Concourse
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Posted - 2007.09.15 06:50:00 -
[338]
Originally by: Ztrain
Originally by: Fry Fortune tbh it's just an honor that bob can't handle us on their own, and brought in absolutely everyone they could.
Your right because you never fight alone. Let me list the regulars that we see in nearly every egagment with a healty mix of: Goons RA UNL TCF Venom Ka-Tet Frege Curse KOS We are Nice Guy's AAA Gekaduko (before they vanished) Evoke (every now and then) IAC has been poking around before we even went to catch.
The list goes on. So no we don't handle you just by yourselves. But I'd love to see BoB on Goons just the two alliances lol but you'd never let that one happen. Hell who owns omest. Last I looked it was UNL, TCF, and Venom not Goons.
Z
Was it not bob who was blathering on about wanting fair fights and how they'd love if the entirety of eve brought it to their doorstep? When that happen'd you blued up anybody who could still stand you after the t20 incident, then promptly demonstrated your definition of fair fights...
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ED 209
Old Detroit Crime Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.09.15 07:03:00 -
[339]
Originally by: Mutant most ppl login to game for fun, today bob's have fun and we have lag. we could stop this ops but we hoped to more playable. ra not give any more fun to our opponents, we start play by old rules again.
That mean you're going to start running complexes again or sitting on npc spawn points afk all day running smartbombs?
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Bethy
White Nova Industries R i s e
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Posted - 2007.09.15 07:10:00 -
[340]
Originally by: Ztrain
Originally by: Fry Fortune tbh it's just an honor that bob can't handle us on their own, and brought in absolutely everyone they could.
Your right because you never fight alone. Let me list the regulars that we see in nearly every egagment with a healty mix of: Goons RA UNL TCF Venom Ka-Tet Frege Curse KOS We are Nice Guy's AAA Gekaduko (before they vanished) Evoke (every now and then) IAC has been poking around before we even went to catch.
The list goes on. So no we don't handle you just by yourselves. But I'd love to see BoB on Goons just the two alliances lol but you'd never let that one happen. Hell who owns omest. Last I looked it was UNL, TCF, and Venom not Goons.
Z
Pandemic legion Invictus Freelance alliance Ultima ratio
and still list goes on and on someone click the calculator button while looking at alliance list and start doing the math
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Turin
Caldari Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.09.15 07:13:00 -
[341]
Originally by: Shinori Edited by: Shinori on 14/09/2007 23:27:35
Originally by: USN CVN72 After Goonswarms reference to the 9-11 attacks a few days ago and with no open apology given from Goons Leadership i hope BOB kicks your ass..
Most goons are north americans and you can be assured they had family, friends and acquaintances lost in the attacks, if they can joke about it, maybe you're the one that needs to lighten up?
This is completlety tasteless.
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Turin
Caldari Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.09.15 07:15:00 -
[342]
Originally by: Erik Amirault Edited by: Erik Amirault on 14/09/2007 23:38:12 Using massive fighter blobs (causing significant lag) isn't a cheat or a hack. It is however incredibly pathetic and indicative of a general inability to succeed by any other way.
Well, lets face it. In a fleet battle, if you have a carrier with fighters, its not going to be able to deploy and assign those fighters once the combat commences. the lag monster would completely prohibit that. so other than pre-assigning fighters and haveing them out and ready, how else can you really use them in deffense?
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Civrax
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 07:20:00 -
[343]
Edited by: Civrax on 15/09/2007 07:23:27 I guess we didn't get 0oyz this time, maybe next time.
EDIT: When Feyth starts to fall and RISE losses their space, I'm going to **** my pants laughing at all this smack.
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 07:32:00 -
[344]
Originally by: Erik Amirault Edited by: Erik Amirault on 14/09/2007 23:38:12 Using massive fighter blobs (causing significant lag) isn't a cheat or a hack. It is however incredibly pathetic and indicative of a general inability to succeed by any other way.
Sure.
Your fleet was pretty much dead before carriers get into grid in the first place. They warped with fighters not deployed. When I loaded(one of first capitals for a change), there was 7bs left on the grid and capitals.
Training carrier 5 now,compensates 1 more goon / lvl.
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Jonathan Peterbilt
Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2007.09.15 07:44:00 -
[345]
Originally by: Fry Fortune tbh it's just an honor that bob can't handle us on their own, and brought in absolutely everyone they could.
please "hire" MC some more bob, it adds an element of actual good fcing to your normally ****ty performance.
Handle you on their own? Who are talking about? Goons? Or Goons and RA? Or maybe you are talking about Goons, RA and TCF? Wait, let me add -A- too... Ah I know now you are talking about Goons, RA, TCF,-A- and United Legion. KOS too? Please be specific next time.
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HydroSan
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 07:45:00 -
[346]
Originally by: Ztrain Your right because you never fight alone. Let me list the regulars that we see in nearly every egagment with a healty mix of: Goons RA UNL TCF Venom Ka-Tet Frege Curse KOS We are Nice Guy's AAA Gekaduko (before they vanished) Evoke (every now and then) IAC has been poking around before we even went to catch.
The list goes on. So no we don't handle you just by yourselves. But I'd love to see BoB on Goons just the two alliances lol but you'd never let that one happen. Hell who owns omest. Last I looked it was UNL, TCF, and Venom not Goons.
Z
Your right because you never fight alone. Let me list the regulars that we see in nearly every egagment with a healty mix of: MC FIX RISE ISS YouWhat CoRM Aftermath D-L Exuro Mortis M.Pire Corelum Syndicate (before they vanished) 0utbreak (every now and then) Ev0ke has been poking around before we even went to Omist
The list goes on. So no we don't handle you just by yourselves. But I'd love to see Goons on BoB just the two alliances lol but you'd never let that one happen. Hell who owns feyth. Last I looked it was mostly RISE and CoRM not BoB.
H
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Jonathan Peterbilt
Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2007.09.15 07:54:00 -
[347]
Originally by: HydroSan
Originally by: Ztrain Your right because you never fight alone. Let me list the regulars that we see in nearly every egagment with a healty mix of: Goons RA UNL TCF Venom Ka-Tet Frege Curse KOS We are Nice Guy's AAA Gekaduko (before they vanished) Evoke (every now and then) IAC has been poking around before we even went to catch.
The list goes on. So no we don't handle you just by yourselves. But I'd love to see BoB on Goons just the two alliances lol but you'd never let that one happen. Hell who owns omest. Last I looked it was UNL, TCF, and Venom not Goons.
Z
Your right because you never fight alone. Let me list the regulars that we see in nearly every egagment with a healty mix of: MC FIX RISE ISS YouWhat CoRM Aftermath D-L Exuro Mortis M.Pire Corelum Syndicate (before they vanished) 0utbreak (every now and then) Ev0ke has been poking around before we even went to Omist
The list goes on. So no we don't handle you just by yourselves. But I'd love to see Goons on BoB just the two alliances lol but you'd never let that one happen. Hell who owns feyth. Last I looked it was mostly RISE and CoRM not BoB.
H
You got to be pretty darn stupid not to see Russians are the only reason you are in 00.... If it wasnt for them you'd be all in Rens 911....
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Blight1
Caldari Convergent Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.09.15 07:56:00 -
[348]
Edited by: Blight1 on 15/09/2007 07:55:58 meh
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 08:10:00 -
[349]
Originally by: Orangir
That's funny, considering most killmails from the initial jump in are showing up with pretty much only carriers/motherships on them.
Really? Go check kb and see for yourself.
http://www.killboard.net/kills/page_9/ Gobluin(sp?) was the first bs to die to fighters and at that point, you didn't have more than 6 bs and capitals on the grid. (oh and support maybe,didn't have on overview but was irrelevant at 130km).
We had at that point entire fleet pretty much intact at the gate. However some carriers didn't load fast/client didn't update fast, so they continued killing what they saw, thus anything that logged in or warped to gate. You lost control at gates before caps even got there.
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HydroSan
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 08:15:00 -
[350]
Originally by: Jonathan Peterbilt You got to be pretty darn stupid not to see Russians are the only reason you are in 00.... If it wasnt for them you'd be all in Rens 911....
Christ man come up with something original, not some regurgitated crap you picked up from a BoB alt poster. Citing how many times you killed a dumb goon in his ratting battleship or how effective your 200m ISK force recons are at ganking newbie mining Ospreys would've gotten the point across just fine but you had to cheapen yourself by using such a worthless, overused burn.
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DrRockIT
Caldari Asgard Schiffswerften Ev0ke
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Posted - 2007.09.15 08:17:00 -
[351]
Originally by: Ztrain
Your right because you never fight alone. Let me list the regulars that we see in nearly every egagment with a healty mix of: Goons RA UNL TCF Venom Ka-Tet Frege Curse KOS We are Nice Guy's AAA Gekaduko (before they vanished) Evoke (every now and then) IAC has been poking around before we even went to catch.
The list goes on. So no we don't handle you just by yourselves. But I'd love to see BoB on Goons just the two alliances lol but you'd never let that one happen. Hell who owns omest. Last I looked it was UNL, TCF, and Venom not Goons.
Z
We (Ev0ke) have absolutly nothing to do with that, plz get ur facts straight before mentioning us. Your signature image exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie |
Hunter Vonnegut
Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.15 08:19:00 -
[352]
Originally by: Kif
Originally by: forumus trollus I quit playing this game, last week giving all my accounts away. I think its pretty silly to pay for a product which doesn't work.
I find it humorous that any of you even chestbeat when you win a battle. regardless of whether Bob or RSF win a battle these days its generally determined by the lag, not by skill.
Bob keep saying goons bring t1 frigs to a battle to lag it up. RSF accuse bob of the fighter spam. You blame each other for doing exactly what the game inteneded, when really it is the inability off ccp to propvide a working product that gives you these tragic stop motion battles.
Of course bob are going to bring more cap ships. They have a playerbase of extrememly high skillpoints. Id be surprised if there are many pilots in their ranks who cant fly a carrier. To think they wouldnt field them is pretty stupid, and to suggest that dreads would make more sense in a fleet battle is also laughable.
On the other hand we have bob accusing rsf of bringing crappy t1 ships to the battle. Sadly, there are always going to be newer players in this game and you dont accept them in your alliance, so guess what, they are probably going to be on the other side. A shuttle is a perfectly good fleet member if it draws primary fire away from another ship. (of course this is relying on a pretty awful opposing fc, but in the current lag quagmire most battles turns into, who knows.)
So here we find ourselves, bickering over who broke the microwave. The one who put too many chicken wings in or the one who put too much pizza in. Everyone enjoys the microwave enough to not want to throw it out the window.
I threw it out the window, not because I didnt like it, but because after the last year of subscription costs, I have seen all of these issues get worse not better, as a consumer, this isnt something I accept.
Good luck to all of you in future, but in 6 months when people look at the alliance map itd be nice to know someone actually carved out a chunk of it for themselves. This beats knowing that the space was given out according to lag lottery allocations. Sadly, I can't find the same kind of epic space battles in my new mmo, however, neither could i find them in Eve anymore.
So yeh this is my first non-biased post so I hope you all enjoy it. Broken game. Lag Dice decide battle outcomes. Ghey
really nothing else to say past this.
can I have your stuff?
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forumus trollus
Minmatar We live under bridges inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.15 08:57:00 -
[353]
Originally by: Hunter Vonnegut
Originally by: Kif
Originally by: forumus trollus I quit playing this game, last week giving all my accounts away. I think its pretty silly to pay for a product which doesn't work.
I find it humorous that any of you even chestbeat when you win a battle. regardless of whether Bob or RSF win a battle these days its generally determined by the lag, not by skill.
Bob keep saying goons bring t1 frigs to a battle to lag it up. RSF accuse bob of the fighter spam. You blame each other for doing exactly what the game inteneded, when really it is the inability off ccp to propvide a working product that gives you these tragic stop motion battles.
Of course bob are going to bring more cap ships. They have a playerbase of extrememly high skillpoints. Id be surprised if there are many pilots in their ranks who cant fly a carrier. To think they wouldnt field them is pretty stupid, and to suggest that dreads would make more sense in a fleet battle is also laughable.
On the other hand we have bob accusing rsf of bringing crappy t1 ships to the battle. Sadly, there are always going to be newer players in this game and you dont accept them in your alliance, so guess what, they are probably going to be on the other side. A shuttle is a perfectly good fleet member if it draws primary fire away from another ship. (of course this is relying on a pretty awful opposing fc, but in the current lag quagmire most battles turns into, who knows.)
So here we find ourselves, bickering over who broke the microwave. The one who put too many chicken wings in or the one who put too much pizza in. Everyone enjoys the microwave enough to not want to throw it out the window.
I threw it out the window, not because I didnt like it, but because after the last year of subscription costs, I have seen all of these issues get worse not better, as a consumer, this isnt something I accept.
Good luck to all of you in future, but in 6 months when people look at the alliance map itd be nice to know someone actually carved out a chunk of it for themselves. This beats knowing that the space was given out according to lag lottery allocations. Sadly, I can't find the same kind of epic space battles in my new mmo, however, neither could i find them in Eve anymore.
So yeh this is my first non-biased post so I hope you all enjoy it. Broken game. Lag Dice decide battle outcomes. Ghey
really nothing else to say past this.
can I have your stuff?
read first sentence?
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 09:02:00 -
[354]
Originally by: HydroSan
Originally by: Jonathan Peterbilt You got to be pretty darn stupid not to see Russians are the only reason you are in 00.... If it wasnt for them you'd be all in Rens 911....
Christ man come up with something original, not some regurgitated crap you picked up from a BoB alt poster. Citing how many times you killed a dumb goon in his ratting battleship or how effective your 200m ISK force recons are at ganking newbie mining Ospreys would've gotten the point across just fine but you had to cheapen yourself by using such a worthless, overused burn.
Roflmao, a goon moaning about overusing a burn, omg the irony, hahaha. Props for bringing it though
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Inosin
Caldari Stardust Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.15 09:30:00 -
[355]
Aggain one vitory is enough for Bobmembers to mock their enemys. "Muhaha" "lolrofl" and "" in every second post? Have no achivments in Rl that you have to celebrate yourself ingame that way? Thx remembering why why i dont like you as Players even if i would have remembered anyway.
At all who are suffering lag and desync remember the epic sentence of Bob philosopher DP Preacher wich shines now with its true meaning: "You are all dead , you just dont know it yet"
To the Capital thing. If BoB field carriers and MS only try to make Bombsquads with 5-8 People (exspecially Amarr and Mima Bomber are cheap on the market). They are cheap, fast to skill and can jump in and cloak long before a battle begins. And a couple of Bombs schould easyly eridicate a whole army of fighting drones (in 15km Range) and because no targeting is needed, deployment should be manageable even with bit of lag or desync. Just an idea if you need some Bombs you can contact me ingame i will provide you every number for building costs only , if this would help you. 200 Goons with Bombs would be true Armageddon.
To all who are pefer fighting Bob, instead of living at the mercy of them:
Keep on, if you live in the North, South or East their Strenght is their very big Capfleet (how it was to read here its aggain their plan , just outblob and steamroll aaa/iac with help of all pets and then move on east. But Supercaps are now weaker than bevore Rev2 (which is good)so work togehter and attack on multiple fronts, force them to divide their Capfleet (like the north sucessful did some days ago) and there is a good chance this Nighmare of Eve will end some day.
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Maksiim
Doom and Gloom Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.09.15 09:37:00 -
[356]
^^
Na, just spam the forum's with ridiculous whine threads blaming everything but their own FC's.
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EnacheV1
Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.09.15 09:40:00 -
[357]
I dont understand why someone should bring what ships his enemy thinks will favour him.
For some ops is dreads>carriers for other ops is carriers>dreads depending on situation.
In a system with 0 enemy pos-es and lots of friendly posses out of reinforced is carriers>dreads.
This whole discussion is stupid.
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Alaxen
Caldari Confederation of Red Miners Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.15 10:00:00 -
[358]
Edited by: Alaxen on 15/09/2007 10:02:18 Edited by: Alaxen on 15/09/2007 10:01:57
Originally by: HydroSan you had to cheapen yourself by using such a worthless, overused burn.
Overused burn?
When did CAOD become 'That 70s Show'?
Originally by: EnacheV1 This whole discussion is stupid.
Welcome to CAOD. Please flame safely. --
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 10:02:00 -
[359]
Originally by: Inosin Aggain one vitory is enough for Bobmembers to mock their enemys. "Muhaha" "lolrofl" and "" in every second post? Have no achivments in Rl that you have to celebrate yourself ingame that way? Thx remembering why why i dont like you as Players even if i would have remembered anyway.
At all who are suffering lag and desync remember the epic sentence of Bob philosopher DP Preacher wich shines now with its true meaning: "You are all dead , you just dont know it yet"
To the Capital thing. If BoB field carriers and MS only try to make Bombsquads with 5-8 People (exspecially Amarr and Mima Bomber are cheap on the market). They are cheap, fast to skill and can jump in and cloak long before a battle begins. And a couple of Bombs schould easyly eridicate a whole army of fighting drones (in 15km Range) and because no targeting is needed, deployment should be manageable even with bit of lag or desync. Just an idea if you need some Bombs you can contact me ingame i will provide you every number for building costs only , if this would help you. 200 Goons with Bombs would be true Armageddon.
To all who are pefer fighting Bob, instead of living at the mercy of them:
Keep on, if you live in the North, South or East their Strenght is their very big Capfleet (how it was to read here its aggain their plan , just outblob and steamroll aaa/iac with help of all pets and then move on east. But Supercaps are now weaker than bevore Rev2 (which is good)so work togehter and attack on multiple fronts, force them to divide their Capfleet (like the north sucessful did some days ago) and there is a good chance this Nighmare of Eve will end some day.
basically what you are saying is, ahem, onoes, they have a fleet and cap fleet the same size as us, please bring more help which will almost certainly improve the lag but we can blame it on bob etc
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 10:05:00 -
[360]
Originally by: forumus trollus
Originally by: Hunter Vonnegut
Originally by: Kif
Originally by: forumus trollus I quit playing this game, last week giving all my accounts away. I think its pretty silly to pay for a product which doesn't work.
I find it humorous that any of you even chestbeat when you win a battle. regardless of whether Bob or RSF win a battle these days its generally determined by the lag, not by skill.
Bob keep saying goons bring t1 frigs to a battle to lag it up. RSF accuse bob of the fighter spam. You blame each other for doing exactly what the game inteneded, when really it is the inability off ccp to propvide a working product that gives you these tragic stop motion battles.
Of course bob are going to bring more cap ships. They have a playerbase of extrememly high skillpoints. Id be surprised if there are many pilots in their ranks who cant fly a carrier. To think they wouldnt field them is pretty stupid, and to suggest that dreads would make more sense in a fleet battle is also laughable.
On the other hand we have bob accusing rsf of bringing crappy t1 ships to the battle. Sadly, there are always going to be newer players in this game and you dont accept them in your alliance, so guess what, they are probably going to be on the other side. A shuttle is a perfectly good fleet member if it draws primary fire away from another ship. (of course this is relying on a pretty awful opposing fc, but in the current lag quagmire most battles turns into, who knows.)
So here we find ourselves, bickering over who broke the microwave. The one who put too many chicken wings in or the one who put too much pizza in. Everyone enjoys the microwave enough to not want to throw it out the window.
I threw it out the window, not because I didnt like it, but because after the last year of subscription costs, I have seen all of these issues get worse not better, as a consumer, this isnt something I accept.
Good luck to all of you in future, but in 6 months when people look at the alliance map itd be nice to know someone actually carved out a chunk of it for themselves. This beats knowing that the space was given out according to lag lottery allocations. Sadly, I can't find the same kind of epic space battles in my new mmo, however, neither could i find them in Eve anymore.
So yeh this is my first non-biased post so I hope you all enjoy it. Broken game. Lag Dice decide battle outcomes. Ghey
really nothing else to say past this.
can I have your stuff?
read first sentence?
Sesfan said it is ok to post with your goon main , now dont be a disobediant troll
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Dagam
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 10:26:00 -
[361]
goons don't say "epic space battles" unironically :eng101:
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Tzrailasa
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 10:31:00 -
[362]
Originally by: Orangir Well logic would dictate that you would bring dreads in place of carriers so an actual fight would take place. We had covops constantly on grid at the R97 gate and your entire capfleet pretty much consisted of 60 carriers, 7-10 motherships, and maybe a titan.
I don't want to subscribe to your kind of logic.
Dreads work well against: a. Structures b. Capitals
We weren't there to kill the gate (which is the only structure where the battle was fought), nor were we going to kill our own POS or siege our own station in system.
We were there to kill the massive number of sub-capital ships you brought in. Why the hell should we bring dreads for that???
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.09.15 10:32:00 -
[363]
Not sure why BoB is so smug in this thread. Aside from the fact that all they did was save a system, and haven't been able to take any REDSWARM system for months while losing quite a few themselves, lets look at a bit of history.
Last time Goons complained, it was about titans. Result: titans got a (IMO deserved) nerf.
Currently, we have the 'fighterswarm from hell'. Sure, a valid tactic. But look at longterm playability of the game here. In 6 months, it won't be 50 carriers, it will be 100 carriers. And Goonswarm will undoubtedly be fielding 100 carriers as well.
So what then, we get a fight with a few thousand fighter drones? I would assume CCP is quite aware of what will happen in 6 months time unless they make some serious changes...
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Knocturnal
omen.
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Posted - 2007.09.15 10:41:00 -
[364]
OMG .. how moronic goonz can be... ? They whine about lag and fighterbombing and they still jump noobships in and stuff ?
I'm sick of all this things comming from goonz who brings crap only to generate lag and when somebody comes with something to fight the blobl.. OMG NO CCP HAS TO NERF IT cuz we can't handel...
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Omega Man
The Geddy Foundation
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Posted - 2007.09.15 10:41:00 -
[365]
So BOB have evolved their tactics to take on the Goons desire to fight only at 3 : 1.
They pwn the foe.
Whats not to cheer about? -
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 10:45:00 -
[366]
Originally by: Malachon Draco Not sure why BoB is so smug in this thread. Aside from the fact that all they did was save a system, and haven't been able to take any REDSWARM system for months while losing quite a few themselves, lets look at a bit of history.
Last time Goons complained, it was about titans. Result: titans got a (IMO deserved) nerf.
Currently, we have the 'fighterswarm from hell'. Sure, a valid tactic. But look at longterm playability of the game here. In 6 months, it won't be 50 carriers, it will be 100 carriers. And Goonswarm will undoubtedly be fielding 100 carriers as well.
So what then, we get a fight with a few thousand fighter drones? I would assume CCP is quite aware of what will happen in 6 months time unless they make some serious changes...
Were laughing because the goons complaining about lag is just about the most ridiculous thing ever. Seriously, they bring multi alliance mega blobs and waddle about flexing, then whine when they suffer the same kind of lag other people get all the time when fighting them.
Oh and i seem to recall lv suffered horrnedous lag in jv, where was all the anti lag posts then eh, i seem to recall alot of haha tough luck posts. Your arguments would hold alot more strengh is they didn't laugh when we suffer heavy lag and die but whine when they get heavy lag and die. They dump drones many times in battles in omist but i guess that kind of thing is okay because it's against us yeah.
Bias logic 4tw i guess
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Morning Mist
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 10:58:00 -
[367]
Originally by: fire 59 Bias logic 4tw i guess
I'm not sure can tell the difference between huge fleets of ships, and huge clouds of lag-immune *****machines that all have their own calculations that need to be done that cripple the server to the point that they're the only thing able to move. Oh and having so many fighters on the gate everyone crashes or stares at a blank screen while they get doomsdayed. I'll give you some time to think about it.
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Morning Mist
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 10:59:00 -
[368]
Edited by: Morning Mist on 15/09/2007 11:01:09 derp derp
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.09.15 11:03:00 -
[369]
Originally by: fire 59
Originally by: Malachon Draco Not sure why BoB is so smug in this thread. Aside from the fact that all they did was save a system, and haven't been able to take any REDSWARM system for months while losing quite a few themselves, lets look at a bit of history.
Last time Goons complained, it was about titans. Result: titans got a (IMO deserved) nerf.
Currently, we have the 'fighterswarm from hell'. Sure, a valid tactic. But look at longterm playability of the game here. In 6 months, it won't be 50 carriers, it will be 100 carriers. And Goonswarm will undoubtedly be fielding 100 carriers as well.
So what then, we get a fight with a few thousand fighter drones? I would assume CCP is quite aware of what will happen in 6 months time unless they make some serious changes...
Were laughing because the goons complaining about lag is just about the most ridiculous thing ever. Seriously, they bring multi alliance mega blobs and waddle about flexing, then whine when they suffer the same kind of lag other people get all the time when fighting them.
Oh and i seem to recall lv suffered horrnedous lag in jv, where was all the anti lag posts then eh, i seem to recall alot of haha tough luck posts. Your arguments would hold alot more strengh is they didn't laugh when we suffer heavy lag and die but whine when they get heavy lag and die. They dump drones many times in battles in omist but i guess that kind of thing is okay because it's against us yeah.
Bias logic 4tw i guess
No, there is 2 different things here. Yes everybody suffers horrible lag from time to time. And much of it is completely unavoidable as you can't order people not to show up.
But when it comes to drones, there CCP has options. They could for example reduce the number of normal drones to 3, and double their damage and hitpoints, and reduce the max number of fighter drones to 5, with triple the damage and triple the armor/hull/shield. For Motherships, the bonuses could be tweaked that they can have max 5 fighters, but with 5 times the damage etc so that the total damage is not reduced.
All the lag caused by 500 people showing up is pretty much unavoidable, because any attempt to stop it from CCPs end is easily circumvented/exploitable. But when it comes to drones/fighters, CCP has the tools to actually reduce lag effectively.
And why do you keep avoiding the main point I am trying to make. Think 6 months ahead, think a year ahead. Will the game still be playable for ANYONE if we get 100+ carriers on each side?
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Gyro DuAquin1
Tri Optimum Ev0ke
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Posted - 2007.09.15 11:11:00 -
[370]
Originally by: HydroSan
Originally by: Ztrain Your right because you never fight alone. Let me list the regulars that we see in nearly every egagment with a healty mix of: Goons RA UNL TCF Venom Ka-Tet Frege Curse KOS We are Nice Guy's AAA Gekaduko (before they vanished) Evoke (every now and then) IAC has been poking around before we even went to catch.
The list goes on. So no we don't handle you just by yourselves. But I'd love to see BoB on Goons just the two alliances lol but you'd never let that one happen. Hell who owns omest. Last I looked it was UNL, TCF, and Venom not Goons.
Z
Your right because you never fight alone. Let me list the regulars that we see in nearly every egagment with a healty mix of: MC FIX RISE ISS YouWhat CoRM Aftermath D-L Exuro Mortis M.Pire Corelum Syndicate (before they vanished) 0utbreak (every now and then) Ev0ke has been poking around before we even went to Omist
The list goes on. So no we don't handle you just by yourselves. But I'd love to see Goons on BoB just the two alliances lol but you'd never let that one happen. Hell who owns feyth. Last I looked it was mostly RISE and CoRM not BoB.
H
that we are mentiond by BoB and goons made me giggle, so we have done something right in the past.
Anyhow we engage who comes our way, we havent and will not allign with on side or another.
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Omega Man
The Geddy Foundation
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Posted - 2007.09.15 11:11:00 -
[371]
Well lets leave the thinking about nerfing drones to CCP shall we?
Or do you think BOB countering Goons tactics is somehow unfair? -
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Citric Acid
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 11:20:00 -
[372]
Originally by: Jonathan Peterbilt
Originally by: HydroSan
Originally by: Ztrain
Words
Words
You got to be pretty darn stupid not to see Russians are the only reason you are in 00.... If it wasnt for them you'd be all in Rens 911....
And the RA wouldn't be either. See it's a mutual thing, that's why the call us RedSwarm Federation.
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Halkin
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.15 11:21:00 -
[373]
Originally by: Olli Hokkanen i hope bob loses
so far its been epic, but the players lose everyday with the unreal lag i guess
Originally by: Paper Rock's fine, nerf Scissors
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Tzrailasa
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 11:22:00 -
[374]
Originally by: Malachon Draco But when it comes to drones, there CCP has options....
You're blindly accepting that the goon excuse for loosing battles is valid, which quite frankly the evidence doesn't support.
If fighters were the lag-inducers claimed, then just launching them and have them mill around should lag the server badly.....
IT DOESN'T!!!
Fighters are essentially a turret with a presence in space, thus it requires calculations to detect when it hits other objects. If this additional calculation is so heavy as goons claim, then the above scenario SHOULD lag the server.
Since it doesn't, the argument is hereby proven wrong.
As for the main battle yesterday, the lag kicked in at full force when RA/TCF jumped in and everybody started jumping, locking, maneuvering, warping and shooting. The carriers weren't even on the field then, and their fighters weren't out until later. Numbers of player actions and weapons damage calculations were the great lag inducers, not the fighters. The fighters contribute of.c., but ANY battle with 100's vs. 100's on a single grid WILL end in the same lag mess, fighters or no fighters.
My views are my own. They do not represent the views of my corporation or alliance. |
Nero Winger
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 11:23:00 -
[375]
Originally by: Citric Acid
Originally by: Jonathan Peterbilt
Originally by: HydroSan
Originally by: Ztrain
Words
Words
You got to be pretty darn stupid not to see Russians are the only reason you are in 00.... If it wasnt for them you'd be all in Rens 911....
And the RA wouldn't be either. See it's a mutual thing, that's why the call us RedSwarm Federation.
RA already was in 0.0 before goons even existed.
learn something of your own history please. or your friends history in this case.
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Tetsujin
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 11:23:00 -
[376]
Dear god there are a lot of words in this thread.
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Olli Hokkanen
Full Life Alternative
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Posted - 2007.09.15 11:25:00 -
[377]
Originally by: Nero Winger
Originally by: Citric Acid
Originally by: Jonathan Peterbilt
Originally by: HydroSan
Originally by: Ztrain
Words
Words
You got to be pretty darn stupid not to see Russians are the only reason you are in 00.... If it wasnt for them you'd be all in Rens 911....
And the RA wouldn't be either. See it's a mutual thing, that's why the call us RedSwarm Federation.
RA already was in 0.0 before goons even existed.
learn something of your own history please. or your friends history in this case.
your history isnt very admirable
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OSughhi
Romanian Army of ManiaCS
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Posted - 2007.09.15 11:30:00 -
[378]
Folowing same logic I propose that every 5 goons to fly same ship, one pilot, one gunner, one damage controler, one bm replicator and 1 forum poster. The lag will decrease by 5 factor on RedSwarm fleet battles.
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Fo Kaj
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Posted - 2007.09.15 11:31:00 -
[379]
so the goons spammed here looking for eve to help them blob BOB but it resulted in them loosing a lot of capitals and not getting any where,
LMAO
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Tayler Derden
Solar Dragons Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.15 11:35:00 -
[380]
http://killboard.net/fleetbattle/661/ ye we are evil bloberz lol
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Fo Kaj
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Posted - 2007.09.15 11:38:00 -
[381]
http://killboard.net/kills/page_10/
not any more.........lmao
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 11:42:00 -
[382]
Originally by: Fo Kaj http://killboard.net/kills/page_10/
not any more.........lmao
Lmao
Allied forces strike coalition fleet, wrecking for toys thrown out of pram damage ^^ |
Setana Manoro
Gallente Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.15 11:42:00 -
[383]
Originally by: NO BRAKES
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Citric Acid Edited by: Citric Acid on 14/09/2007 20:26:19
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate Lag isn't tolerable, it doesn't matter who wins.
I agree absolutely. I've always said that. However karma certainly is a *****, and you guys have used "lag" to your advantage many a time, hence my amusement at posts such as vile rats.
Of course, if you would read my post, at no point did I say that it was acceptable, but hey ho, if you're still licking those wounds I guess we can let that slide.
Your the ones who got your **** kicked in for the past 3 months, funny you only drop by CAOD when you have a small victory so you can gloat over it.
Cry much?
He's got a point, you seem to be 'absent' from the forums for long stretches at a time. Usually these stretches involve periods of time that you are losing regions.
Now goons, goons complain ALL the time.
Never thought I'd agree with a Goon ... o.0
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Meja
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 11:44:00 -
[384]
Originally by: Tayler Derden http://killboard.net/fleetbattle/661/ ye we are evil bloberz lol
lol?
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Maksiim
Doom and Gloom Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.09.15 11:44:00 -
[385]
Originally by: Tayler Derden http://killboard.net/fleetbattle/661/ ye we are evil bloberz lol
Waaa waaa waaaa.
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Inosin
Caldari Stardust Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.15 11:47:00 -
[386]
I say it aggain,use Bombs vs Fighters it should work very well ecspacially when there are 50+ Carriers in a small area (on a gate) you can make serious Amount of damage with a few cheap Ships warped in bit eralier and some Bombs.
Think introducing Bombs is a good start to prevent people from building big blobs i bet they will be increased in Power or building will be made cheaper by CCP.
DD is good wayto punish big supportfleets for not dividing into parts.
Wat is needed is way to punsish big Capfleets that are not vulnerable to DD for gathering to big numbers. So Bombing the Capenergy of a whole capfleet to Zero or prevent them from locking with lockbreaker bombs seems a good way for me to force big fleets to divide some day.
Other solution i think would be to change poswarfare a bit maybe that pos are somehow linked that it become effective to attack several Pos in different Systems at the same time. But i think such changes are in general not that easy to balance like some of players think.
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prsr
Gallente JuBa Corp RONA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.15 11:48:00 -
[387]
Originally by: Citric Acid
Originally by: Jonathan Peterbilt
You got to be pretty darn stupid not to see Russians are the only reason you are in 00.... If it wasnt for them you'd be all in Rens 911....
And the RA wouldn't be either. See it's a mutual thing, that's why the call us RedSwarm Federation.
You should do stand-up comedy.
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.09.15 11:52:00 -
[388]
Originally by: Tzrailasa
Originally by: Malachon Draco But when it comes to drones, there CCP has options....
You're blindly accepting that the goon excuse for loosing battles is valid, which quite frankly the evidence doesn't support.
If fighters were the lag-inducers claimed, then just launching them and have them mill around should lag the server badly.....
IT DOESN'T!!!
Fighters are essentially a turret with a presence in space, thus it requires calculations to detect when it hits other objects. If this additional calculation is so heavy as goons claim, then the above scenario SHOULD lag the server.
Since it doesn't, the argument is hereby proven wrong.
As for the main battle yesterday, the lag kicked in at full force when RA/TCF jumped in and everybody started jumping, locking, maneuvering, warping and shooting. The carriers weren't even on the field then, and their fighters weren't out until later. Numbers of player actions and weapons damage calculations were the great lag inducers, not the fighters. The fighters contribute of.c., but ANY battle with 100's vs. 100's on a single grid WILL end in the same lag mess, fighters or no fighters.
So if next week you have to jump into a system with say 200 vexors on the gate and 1000 drones, you won't complain? Or 6 months from now, where you will probably be looking at 100 Goon carriers and a thousand fighters?
Good to know.
------------------------------------------------ Murphy's Golden Rule: Whoever has the gold, makes the rules.
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Nero Winger
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 11:54:00 -
[389]
Originally by: Maksiim
Originally by: Tayler Derden http://killboard.net/fleetbattle/661/ ye we are evil bloberz lol
Waaa waaa waaaa.
a oldie but a goldie
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Dooshotron
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 11:54:00 -
[390]
Short answer, no, no I wont complain I will probably die as usual, head back to Base, get a new ship and get back in fight.
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Wizie
Minmatar e X i l e FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.15 12:03:00 -
[391]
Originally by: Dooshotron Short answer, no, no I wont complain I will probably die as usual, head back to Base, get a new ship and get back in fight.
By base you mean Jita right? oooo ICE BURN ----------------- Sig removed by some noob |
Endoric
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Posted - 2007.09.15 12:19:00 -
[392]
Originally by: Erik Amirault [ I have never heard anyone say to bring random newbie ships to "lag out a system." Additionally, y.
... that is y theair has ebn 54 n00b ships destroyed in 0oy right ? yes 54 not 1 or 2 or 3 54 noobships destroyed in a fleet battle sys but the goons say they do not use n00b ships
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Diehard Si
UK1 Zero Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.15 12:27:00 -
[393]
I went to a house party, got drunk and got tex updates from my mate in the battle himself. By the sounds of it I saw as much of the battle as he did.
I've just been catching up on the great victory on the net now. Feel like i probably got more out of last night than the people that were there. Beer is always better than a screen that doesn't load.
Congrats to the alliance, good kills all poses saved.
A few lessons in not being hypocritcal to be learnt by the goons i think. Maybe next time hey? --------------------------------------
Lets face it, people that use the word 'noob' are blatantly either 12 or with more friends on the internet than in real life! |
Dooshotron
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 12:27:00 -
[394]
Edited by: Dooshotron on 15/09/2007 12:27:35
Originally by: Wizie By base you mean Jita right? oooo ICE BURN
This time actually yes! I fancied a bomber and we don't make them
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Knocturnal
omen.
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Posted - 2007.09.15 12:32:00 -
[395]
Originally by: Malachon Draco
No, there is 2 different things here. Yes everybody suffers horrible lag from time to time. And much of it is completely unavoidable as you can't order people not to show up.
But when it comes to drones, there CCP has options. They could for example reduce the number of normal drones to 3, and double their damage and hitpoints, and reduce the max number of fighter drones to 5, with triple the damage and triple the armor/hull/shield. For Motherships, the bonuses could be tweaked that they can have max 5 fighters, but with 5 times the damage etc so that the total damage is not reduced.
All the lag caused by 500 people showing up is pretty much unavoidable, because any attempt to stop it from CCPs end is easily circumvented/exploitable. But when it comes to drones/fighters, CCP has the tools to actually reduce lag effectively.
And why do you keep avoiding the main point I am trying to make. Think 6 months ahead, think a year ahead. Will the game still be playable for ANYONE if we get 100+ carriers on each side?
Fielding Noobships is ok .. huh ? yeah fleet battles when you bring ship .. but fielding hundreds of t1 firgs and noobships won't create lag ... but huh that's ok...
F*ck Derek we got Xlop. |
Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 12:36:00 -
[396]
Saga continues me, myself and I ------> |
Seldarine
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 12:38:00 -
[397]
fyi another 6 RA capitals down in 0oyz 5 mins ago ______________________________
Seldarine
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Jaeger J
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Posted - 2007.09.15 12:40:00 -
[398]
Originally by: FowlPlayChiken
Originally by: Vile rat I apologize to any person who joined the game based off of that shacknews article. The game is not playable. The game hasn't been playable for the past year. The game is so horribly broken that I'm stunned that we all still pay money for this pile of crap and I'm embarrassed that my name is now associated with this.
hey what other game can you even have a battle with over 500 people at once?:-p
yea, was bloody laggy tho. I cooked up a sexy thai chicken while i was waiting for grid to load. it loaded a couple mins after I got back with my food. lol
Lets see
-DAOC -L2 -SB was more stable with same player numbers -PlanetSide before pop locks -A few Asian games -Pretty much every MMO with large scale pvp
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Stoffer Ninjapirate
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 12:40:00 -
[399]
Originally by: Tzrailasa
Originally by: Malachon Draco But when it comes to drones, there CCP has options....
You're blindly accepting that the goon excuse for loosing battles is valid, which quite frankly the evidence doesn't support.
If fighters were the lag-inducers claimed, then just launching them and have them mill around should lag the server badly.....
IT DOESN'T!!!
Fighters are essentially a turret with a presence in space, thus it requires calculations to detect when it hits other objects. If this additional calculation is so heavy as goons claim, then the above scenario SHOULD lag the server.
Since it doesn't, the argument is hereby proven wrong.
As for the main battle yesterday, the lag kicked in at full force when RA/TCF jumped in and everybody started jumping, locking, maneuvering, warping and shooting. The carriers weren't even on the field then, and their fighters weren't out until later. Numbers of player actions and weapons damage calculations were the great lag inducers, not the fighters. The fighters contribute of.c., but ANY battle with 100's vs. 100's on a single grid WILL end in the same lag mess, fighters or no fighters.
You're pretty stupid and know nothing about how things work.
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Barthezz
Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.15 12:42:00 -
[400]
Originally by: Seldarine fyi another 6 RA capitals down in 0oyz 5 mins ago
Where they able to actually fight this time? ---
Dev's give us a lag-update! |
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General Windypops
Gallente Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2007.09.15 12:45:00 -
[401]
Are you serious? Did Goons genuinely use over 50 noob ships in that battle?
Pathetic.
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Gidien Kane
Amarr OneHundredRed
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Posted - 2007.09.15 12:45:00 -
[402]
Originally by: Seldarine fyi another 6 RA capitals down in 0oyz 5 mins ago
Why is it that only Russian capitals were being used for this op? GK-
*snip* Sig removed. Please email us if you would like to know why. -Conuion Meow ([email protected]) |
Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 12:46:00 -
[403]
why bitternes?
Its just pointless killboard ratio, with some juicy ships
me, myself and I ------> |
Titus Starwalker
Raddick Explorations Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.09.15 12:48:00 -
[404]
check out the last 2 ships on this kill...
RA killed their own capitals...
Linkage
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Tzrailasa
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 12:49:00 -
[405]
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Originally by: Tzrailasa ..removed for shortness
So if next week you have to jump into a system with say 200 vexors on the gate and 1000 drones, you won't complain?
I haven't complained about that until now, have I?
Until they started their whine, that was their usual MO (along with their shuttles and noobships), purely to create lag. Of.c. they stopped using drones when their whine started, but the shuttle/noobship trick continues.
My views are my own. They do not represent the views of my corporation or alliance. |
Tzrailasa
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 12:50:00 -
[406]
Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate
Originally by: Tzrailasa My post
You're pretty stupid and know nothing about how things work.
What a class argument
My views are my own. They do not represent the views of my corporation or alliance. |
Tayler Derden
Solar Dragons Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.15 12:51:00 -
[407]
Originally by: Titus Starwalker check out the last 2 ships on this kill...
RA killed their own capitals...
Linkage
if one capital remote rep another he will shown in mail if another cap die
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Titus Starwalker
Raddick Explorations Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.09.15 12:51:00 -
[408]
Originally by: Tayler Derden
Originally by: Titus Starwalker check out the last 2 ships on this kill...
RA killed their own capitals...
Linkage
if one capital remote rep another he will shown in mail if another cap die
oh.. I didnt know that.. nevermind then
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HaulandHaul
Gallente Caldari Deep Space Ventures Caldari Deep Space Industral
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Posted - 2007.09.15 12:51:00 -
[409]
i love the smell of russki capitals in the morning *snip* Modifying another player's signature graphic to insult them is trolling. -Rauth Kivaro ([email protected]) |
Landen Phoenix
The Rapture
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Posted - 2007.09.15 12:52:00 -
[410]
Originally by: Some guy who's post will be nuked
Originally by: Erik Amirault [ I have never heard anyone say to bring random newbie ships to "lag out a system." Additionally, y.
... that is y theair has ebn 54 n00b ships destroyed in 0oy right ? yes 54 not 1 or 2 or 3 54 noobships destroyed in a fleet battle sys but the goons say they do not use n00b ships
AMAZING the goons exploiting lag with n00b ships, one could almost call them baby Russians
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Jaeger J
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Posted - 2007.09.15 12:52:00 -
[411]
Originally by: Sentinel Eeex
Originally by: Tzrailasa Edited by: Tzrailasa on 14/09/2007 21:33:57
Originally by: Sentinel Eeex
Originally by: Tzrailasa I still find it amusing that the party who brings 500 people (RA/pets) in a fight to shoot at 250 people (BoB/allies) is crying so hard over lag
<picture of 541 in local>
LOCAL never spiked over this (at least for me).
Explain me the math again, please?
Dropped connections, lots of your capitals jumping out (or never jumping in) leaving their friends to die, the ~80 non-capital ships who never jumped in from R97, plus of cause the ~90 man AAA gang who ran away again when they saw the way the battle was going....
So it wasn't 500 vs 250 after all, then, if at least 170 people didn't manage to even get into 0OY?
Nothing matters. The 2 times I did manage to load after getting wooped by fighters each time it was almost 1.2 hours later that the area became even close to 5% stability. Even at that point with less then 40 of our boys left in system at that time it took 30 or so minutes just to get to the gate and try again.
Any way the fight could have taken place would yield the same results. Both forces lagged to hell with the camping force having a tiny benifit. Fighters killing everyone reguardless.
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The Pilot
UA Industry Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.15 12:57:00 -
[412]
Originally by: Mutant most ppl login to game for fun, today bob's have fun and we have lag. we could stop this ops but we hoped to more playable. ra not give any more fun to our opponents, we start play by old rules again.
ETA until "we play for fun only and don't want to be bothered with RA anymore «THEFIVE"
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 12:59:00 -
[413]
Edited by: Darcuese on 15/09/2007 12:59:26
Originally by: The Pilot
Originally by: Mutant
ra not give any more fun to our opponents, we start play by old rules again.
ETA until "we play for fun only and don't want to be bothered with RA anymore «THEFIVE"
things with timings and poses are bit different then back then btw
But keep on please me, myself and I ------> |
Ari Xali
Caldari Raddick Explorations Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.09.15 13:10:00 -
[414]
I was there last night. I have to say first of all congrats to RAGOONS for bringing it last night. I had a blast.
The lag last night was unbelievable, but we managed, I warped onto the gate and had to wait about 3 minutes for the Battle to load up. All the while I'm praying to whatever diety's there are that I'm not being targeted and killed whilst waiting.
Targeting and Attacking enemy ships was hard - it took a while for commands to go and be picked up - I nearly lost my fighters to smartbombs at 1 stage but managed to recall them.
But in the end it was a blast. A fight I'm proud to have been a part of...
My only complaint apart from the Lag?..
I got the Killmail for Roman Pilgrim's Revelation, cept that it got truncated as being too large with me off the Killmail....so I don't get the credit on the Killboards. lol.
Next time maybe..
Ari Xali Rad**** Roughnecks Roughnecks Forever! |
The Pilot
UA Industry Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.15 13:10:00 -
[415]
Originally by: Darcuese Edited by: Darcuese on 15/09/2007 12:59:26
Originally by: The Pilot
Originally by: Mutant
ra not give any more fun to our opponents, we start play by old rules again.
ETA until "we play for fun only and don't want to be bothered with RA anymore «THEFIVE"
things with timings and poses are bit different then back then btw
But keep on please
Your troops are still the same - nothing changed.
If you think that POS timers saved you, then i can only wish you good luck, for what it's worth.
We're awaiting a real confrontation but as always, the thing we fear the most is MACTEP's screams and the lag.
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Kirah Ovai
Altcenaries
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Posted - 2007.09.15 13:14:00 -
[416]
Welp, thanks for killing the ******* Server.
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Endeva
Caldari Most Wanted INC
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Posted - 2007.09.15 13:18:00 -
[417]
Originally by: Mutant most ppl login to game for fun, today bob's have fun and we have lag. we could stop this ops but we hoped to more playable. ra not give any more fun to our opponents, we start play by old rules again.
according to killboard today RA old rules doesnt work anymore
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 13:19:00 -
[418]
Originally by: The Pilot
Your troops are still the same - nothing changed.
If you think that POS timers saved you, then i can only wish you good luck, for what it's worth.
At least we now have more satisfaction to kill something that is built to be used in space. You go on continuing to find the way to twist something me, myself and I ------> |
The Pilot
UA Industry Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.15 13:21:00 -
[419]
Originally by: Darcuese
At least we now have more satisfaction to kill something that is built to be used in space.
Rather than built for?
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Alfragide
Nova Lusitania Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.15 13:23:00 -
[420]
Well on the 14 th tryed to log at around 20h Eve time and lag just didnt let me so oc who defends has the upper hand but still lag fires both ways so the main prob will be the Need for extra fuel for the Extra Speed announced by CCP :p
Player organization and commitment to play are 100 % but CCP nodes don't wanna know.
Time has really come for CCP to try and resolve this issue before get us all walking on planets and out of EVE. AvT Nova LusitGnia |
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Zell
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.09.15 13:24:00 -
[421]
Edited by: Zell on 15/09/2007 13:25:23
How is the inability for RA to farm broken complexes effecting their economy now?
Does this mean they actually have to build them with money they earned instead?
Will they continue to throw them into the system like logs on a fire?
Or throw goons instead...
A coward dies a thousand times, the brave die just once.. |
Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 13:24:00 -
[422]
Anyway...saga continue me, myself and I ------> |
Cmdr Sp0ck
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 13:25:00 -
[423]
Originally by: Tayler Derden
Originally by: Titus Starwalker check out the last 2 ships on this kill...
RA killed their own capitals...
Linkage
if one capital remote rep another he will shown in mail if another cap die
Another one of CCP's "features" i suppose.
Because we all know that repping/boosting a friendly is an act of aggression... |
LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 13:25:00 -
[424]
Originally by: The Pilot
Originally by: Mutant most ppl login to game for fun, today bob's have fun and we have lag. we could stop this ops but we hoped to more playable. ra not give any more fun to our opponents, we start play by old rules again.
ETA until "we play for fun only and don't want to be bothered with RA anymore «THEFIVE"
For sure not when you login caps right into our embrace. I wonder what were your scouts doing?
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 13:26:00 -
[425]
Originally by: LUKEC
For sure not when you login caps right into our embrace. I wonder what were your scouts doing?
Just beacause one may be a Russian, it doesnt mean he can stand some vodka me, myself and I ------> |
Maksiim
Doom and Gloom Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.09.15 13:27:00 -
[426]
:'(
FanFest is for... |
NeverL
Enterprise Estonia Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.09.15 13:32:00 -
[427]
i like it when goons cry ----------------- My dream is to become the best forum warrior there is. Even better then Molle Sir. |
Kieranda
Weyland-Yutani Future Technologies Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.15 13:37:00 -
[428]
Originally by: Jaeger J
Originally by: FowlPlayChiken hey what other game can you even have a battle with over 500 people at once?:-p
Lets see
-DAOC -L2 -SB was more stable with same player numbers -PlanetSide before pop locks -A few Asian games -Pretty much every MMO with large scale pvp
none of those games you listed had anywhere near stable performance with 500 people and more on the same field, zone, region, let alone 100
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Tzrailasa
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 13:39:00 -
[429]
Edited by: Tzrailasa on 15/09/2007 13:40:38
Originally by: Kirah Ovai Welp, thanks for killing the ******* Server.
The server crash happened WELL after the fight (more than 30 minutes later).
No correlation between the two, and not usable as an excuse for the battle result either
My views are my own. They do not represent the views of my corporation or alliance. |
thoth foc
Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2007.09.15 13:43:00 -
[430]
Originally by: The Pilot
Your troops are still the same - nothing changed.
I'd agree.. your fleets still tend to end up dead when lag actually permits fighting.. _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) ATUK (.5.) DICE (BOB) Elcyion Lacar
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Sentinel Eeex
Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 13:49:00 -
[431]
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: The Pilot
Your troops are still the same - nothing changed.
I'd agree.. your fleets still tend to end up dead when lag actually permits fighting..
Rofl. Last night, you've redefined meaning of words "blob" and "lag"
But please bobbits, talk some more about unbeatable tactics, great skill and teamwork. It's fun to read. |
Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 14:07:00 -
[432]
Saga is still on me, myself and I ------> |
DeadProphet
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 14:11:00 -
[433]
Edited by: DeadProphet on 15/09/2007 14:11:29 Tt was all good when you were bringing 400+ every day, with drones out all the time, to win by default. But now the other side is blobbing too (not even with the same numbers) its suddenly an absolute travesty.
congratulations, this is what eve territorial conquest is now.
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Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.15 14:12:00 -
[434]
Lag is one thing, but getting 2 crashes everyday is just ********.
CCP had this problem the whole week. Can't you find a damn fix???
Everytime I hear CCP officials claiming they are bussiness professionals, it makes me cry!
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Sentinel Eeex
Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 14:17:00 -
[435]
Originally by: DeadProphet Edited by: DeadProphet on 15/09/2007 14:11:29 Tt was all good when you were bringing 400+ every day, with drones out all the time, to win by default. But now the other side is blobbing too (not even with the same numbers) its suddenly an absolute travesty.
congratulations, this is what eve territorial conquest is now.
But wait - your skill is amazing, you always fight outnumbered and outgunned. So what's the problem in being outnumbered?
I really liked the But now the other side is blobbing too (not even with the same numbers) part.
You can have your calculator back, if you want |
Jonathan Peterbilt
Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2007.09.15 14:21:00 -
[436]
Originally by: Seldarine fyi another 6 RA capitals down in 0oyz 5 mins ago
With so many lost capitals you'd think they will run out of ISK......
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Reto
The Last Resort
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Posted - 2007.09.15 14:21:00 -
[437]
by the amout of bob pilots posting here it seems bob finally got a victory against its red nightmare. (i miss the "chilling tendrils of fear" posts of molle here btw) however i hope that the situation was fruitful for everyone in this conflict since remember kids, a capital blob of an alliance cant be in 2 places at the same time. so if one blob implodes by lag the rest of u can enjoy lag free fight somewhere else.
Originally by: s4mp3r0r "Hey man, you're mom has a cruise missile".
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thoth foc
Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2007.09.15 14:22:00 -
[438]
Originally by: Sentinel Eeex
Rofl. Last night, you've redefined meaning of words "blob" and "lag"
Cry some more please.. ragoonies complaining about ppl blobbing them and lag is just too funneh
btw, 0oy wasnt nearly the worst lag/blobbing i've seen _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) ATUK (.5.) DICE (BOB) Elcyion Lacar
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Sentinel Eeex
Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 14:23:00 -
[439]
Originally by: Jonathan Peterbilt
Originally by: Seldarine fyi another 6 RA capitals down in 0oyz 5 mins ago
With so many lost capitals you'd think they will run out of ISK......
With so many lost large towers, you'd think they will run out of ISK...
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 14:27:00 -
[440]
Originally by: Reto by the amout of bob pilots posting here it seems bob finally got a victory against its red nightmare. (i miss the "chilling tendrils of fear" posts of molle here btw) however i hope that the situation was fruitful for everyone in this conflict since remember kids, a capital blob of an alliance cant be in 2 places at the same time. so if one blob implodes by lag the rest of u can enjoy lag free fight somewhere else.
We're posting because it's funny seeing goons cry about lag that they create with there waddling blobs
Allied forces strike coalition fleet, wrecking for toys thrown out of pram damage ^^ |
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Nero Winger
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 14:29:00 -
[441]
well. Goons Blobbed us 2 months long. Nobody heard even one BoB crying about that. now we fought one battle where we had an advantage in numbers, and whole eve is SHOUTING CCP fix the servers (well, mostly RA and Goonies).
I dont wonder why.
Adapt guys, dont cry, just adapt to changes.
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Seth Quantix
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 14:35:00 -
[442]
Cry me to the moon..........
Goons talking about blobbing yet they are using multi alliances to attack a single one.......i don't do math but i think there is a number problem there.
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Sentinel Eeex
Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 14:36:00 -
[443]
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Sentinel Eeex
Rofl. Last night, you've redefined meaning of words "blob" and "lag"
Cry some more please.. ragoonies complaining about ppl blobbing them and lag is just too funneh
Cooleh mateh. 1337teh speecheh?
Quote:
btw, 0oy wasnt nearly the worst lag/blobbing i've seen
Therefore, it was ok, because it wasn't nearly the worst lag/blobbing you've seen.
Wait - you weren't there, yet you claim you've seen it?
You wouldn't have alt in BoB now, would you? |
Dooshotron
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 14:37:00 -
[444]
Originally by: Sentinel Eeex
With so many lost large towers, you'd think they will run out of ISK...
Its cool we went round all the renters and collected war bonds...
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Sentinel Eeex
Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 14:38:00 -
[445]
Originally by: Nero Winger well. Goons Blobbed us 2 months long. Nobody heard even one BoB crying about that.
I am sorry. Are you reading eve-o forums, or you just came today first time, to post this? |
S1ckness
Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.09.15 14:40:00 -
[446]
Originally by: Nero Winger well. Goons Blobbed us 2 months long. Nobody heard even one BoB crying about that. now we fought one battle where we had an advantage in numbers, and whole eve is SHOUTING CCP fix the servers (well, mostly RA and Goonies).
I dont wonder why.
Adapt guys, dont cry, just adapt to changes.
Heres the funny thing.
You were slowly but surely pushed out of systems by RAGOON when they had number advantage. Your forum presence became almost non-existant.
The adaptation that BOB employed.... spam POS and bring a bigger blob.
Guess what you can expect in return.
And for sure, GOON/RA are better at POS and blob than you guys.
The only thing that remains to be seen is if the servers can hold up... NOT
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 14:43:00 -
[447]
Edited by: fire 59 on 15/09/2007 14:43:16
Originally by: Sentinel Eeex
Originally by: Nero Winger well. Goons Blobbed us 2 months long. Nobody heard even one BoB crying about that.
I am sorry. Are you reading eve-o forums, or you just came today first time, to post this?
Burn . Dam nero, he showed you. Respect for bringing it though
Allied forces strike coalition fleet, wrecking for toys thrown out of pram damage ^^ |
thoth foc
Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2007.09.15 14:45:00 -
[448]
Originally by: Sentinel Eeex
Quote: btw, 0oy wasnt nearly the worst lag/blobbing i've seen
Therefore, it was ok, because it wasn't nearly the worst lag/blobbing you've seen.
Wait - you weren't there, yet you claim you've seen it?
You wouldn't have alt in BoB now, would you?
Where did i say i wasnt there? Your tears seem to be hindering your vision..
I have characters in bob.. reading my signature might kinna give that away.. _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) ATUK (.5.) DICE (BOB) Elcyion Lacar
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Sentinel Eeex
Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 14:51:00 -
[449]
Originally by: thoth foc
Where did i say i wasnt there? Your tears seem to be hindering your vision..
I have characters in bob.. reading my signature might kinna give that away..
<insert obligatory "post with your alt" comment here > |
Nahia Senne
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 14:52:00 -
[450]
Edited by: Nahia Senne on 15/09/2007 14:53:54
Originally by: S1ckness You were slowly but surely pushed out of systems by RAGOON when they had number advantage. Your forum presence became almost non-existant.
The adaptation that BOB employed.... spam POS and bring a bigger blob.
Guess what you can expect in return.
And for sure, GOON/RA are better at POS and blob than you guys.
The only thing that remains to be seen is if the servers can hold up... NOT
Goons were pushed out of their territory. Props to them for taking it back. Now they are trying to take BoB territory. Failure to do so after they already advertised victory is what this goon whine thread is about.
POS spam was coalition adaptation. They have way more pos than BoB does. They have way more alliances spamming them as well.
Yeah, i agree with you. Coalition is way better at POS spamming and blobbing.
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.09.15 15:03:00 -
[451]
Originally by: Nahia Senne Edited by: Nahia Senne on 15/09/2007 14:53:54
Originally by: S1ckness You were slowly but surely pushed out of systems by RAGOON when they had number advantage. Your forum presence became almost non-existant.
The adaptation that BOB employed.... spam POS and bring a bigger blob.
Guess what you can expect in return.
And for sure, GOON/RA are better at POS and blob than you guys.
The only thing that remains to be seen is if the servers can hold up... NOT
Goons were pushed out of their territory. Props to them for taking it back. Now they are trying to take BoB territory. Failure to do so after they already advertised victory is what this goon whine thread is about.
POS spam was coalition adaptation. They have way more pos than BoB does. They have way more alliances spamming them as well.
Yeah, i agree with you. Coalition is way better at POS killing and blobbing.
Fixed that typo for you.
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Cyleth
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 15:04:00 -
[452]
Originally by: Sentinel Eeex
Originally by: Jonathan Peterbilt
Originally by: Seldarine fyi another 6 RA capitals down in 0oyz 5 mins ago
With so many lost capitals you'd think they will run out of ISK......
With so many lost large towers, you'd think they will run out of ISK...
Mad props for steamrolling 00Y!!! -- Listen to Club BNC on BoB Radio. Visit our website for schedules.
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EnacheV1
Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.09.15 15:07:00 -
[453]
Yesterday a group of alliances lost a lot of ships. Maybe it was lag maybe not, i dont know.
But today the same thing happens and i start to wonder if there isn't an error that those alliances are repeatedly doing.
No names involved, just a thought on an event that seems to occure twice in a row, i just wonder if there is a small fault on your field commanders as well.
P.S. pardon my english.
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ChalSto
The Galactic Empire
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Posted - 2007.09.15 15:09:00 -
[454]
"So I looked, and behold, a pale horse. And the name of him who sat on it was Death, and Hell followed with him." REV 6, 7-8
Translation: If you are in a lag battle, you are allready dead; you just dont know yet....
Evil will allways triumph, becouse Good is dumb
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Djerin
Obsidian Exploration Services
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Posted - 2007.09.15 15:10:00 -
[455]
Lots of chest beating in here. I'll tell you to remember it when next blob makes you lose again. Especially the "lulz you whiners" posters.
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Metal Dude
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 15:12:00 -
[456]
Payback is a *****
The truth will set you free
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Ponderous Thunderstroke
Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.15 15:14:00 -
[457]
Yeah, and you guys haven't even begun to eat your full helping of bit*h yet.
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larietta
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.09.15 15:20:00 -
[458]
wow lag was bad pew pew was good was off line most ov the fleet fights CTD 4TS took me 12 hours to get back online.... ps... stop locking me
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Alice Cholmondeley
I Am Legend
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Posted - 2007.09.15 15:23:00 -
[459]
Originally by: NATMav
Fixed that typo for you.
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Krychton
Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.09.15 15:33:00 -
[460]
I love this thread, Goons cry out victory before they achieve it. lol ----
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papaPadla
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 15:36:00 -
[461]
MAN i think i have read that a dozen times. So let me get it right: our carriers warp to the gate in the middle of the fight... they start deploying the fighters... and the fighters just went out and killed everything in site?
ok... they do autoattack... but that in itself means that someone managed to lock them and fire on them... right?
or are the bob fighters uber smart/hacked and they go after all hostiles in the area? by the way most goons tell the story in here you would think that bob fleet didnt even need to load the grid and the fighters were already killing everyone
That is all there is to this thread... everyone knows how things are when a system is lagged out... everyone... well most ppl fought in lag at some point... coming with this stupid argument that things would be different if bob wouldnt have use figthers is just that... stupid.
if you have a system with 300 ppl in it and you try jumping in another 300-400 it will lagg everyone to hell. If half or more of the goon fleet logged off after jumping and the imediatly tryed to log back in that added to the lag waay more than the fighters... and as we have seen, this is exactly what the goons tryed to do: the old logofsky that's why the battle was so single sided.
hats off for trying to bring it... but you knew the server cant handle a 500-700 man fight... trying to spin it around like the lag was bob's fault is just goonard -------------------------------------
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Erosie
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Posted - 2007.09.15 15:38:00 -
[462]
Originally by: Knocturnal
Originally by: Malachon Draco
No, there is 2 different things here. Yes everybody suffers horrible lag from time to time. And much of it is completely unavoidable as you can't order people not to show up.
But when it comes to drones, there CCP has options. They could for example reduce the number of normal drones to 3, and double their damage and hitpoints, and reduce the max number of fighter drones to 5, with triple the damage and triple the armor/hull/shield. For Motherships, the bonuses could be tweaked that they can have max 5 fighters, but with 5 times the damage etc so that the total damage is not reduced.
All the lag caused by 500 people showing up is pretty much unavoidable, because any attempt to stop it from CCPs end is easily circumvented/exploitable. But when it comes to drones/fighters, CCP has the tools to actually reduce lag effectively.
And why do you keep avoiding the main point I am trying to make. Think 6 months ahead, think a year ahead. Will the game still be playable for ANYONE if we get 100+ carriers on each side?
Fielding Noobships is ok .. huh ? yeah fleet battles when you bring ship .. but fielding hundreds of t1 firgs and noobships won't create lag ... but huh that's ok...
There's a diffenrence between bringing real people to the fight, people who all have an EvE account mind you, and bringing loads and loads of fighters, drones, and whatnot. Fighter & Drones wont complain about lag, but they also dont pay for Oveurs newest Lamborghini is it? That BoB & Co dont have enough friends to field even numbers againts the Coalition, so instead use their expensive toy's to lag a system down is kind of lame imho.
You know real people complain when things are not treaten even. Suprise?? Yeah lets flame them for that, but please stfu when all those people create a threadnought which is also within the game mechanics. Yes indeed, your fighters/drones cant post here...
BoB = scum of EvE and all should know about this. You will never encounter a small roaming BoB gang of 10 - 20, because they're affraid to lose. Noone other alliance does this, i have respect for Fix, RISE, MC and all other Alliance alliances, exect BoB. Really you BoB guys are soo lame. And all the time chest beating when they won an uneven match. tsk tsk
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sov68n
Caldari Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 15:39:00 -
[463]
Originally by: Nero Winger Adapt guys, dont cry, just adapt to changes.
lol you idiot, what changes? server lag doesnt progressively get worse so as to impose a situation of "change."
We blob more because you blob more. we did adapt. stfu. If anything the lag is your fault because you brought the giant blobs to the front in the first place.
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Icomeinpeace
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 15:43:00 -
[464]
Originally by: sov68n If anything the lag is your fault because you brought the giant blobs to the front in the first place.
K i didn't just see a goon post this did i?
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 15:45:00 -
[465]
Still dont understand why bitternes?
As somebody else said, there were lot more fights with far more worst lag then last night.
And, will say again....its all just pointless killboard ratio in the end me, myself and I ------> |
Xanaxa
Amarr Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 15:46:00 -
[466]
Originally by: sov68n
Originally by: Nero Winger Adapt guys, dont cry, just adapt to changes.
lol you idiot, what changes? server lag doesnt progressively get worse so as to impose a situation of "change."
We blob more because you blob more. we did adapt. stfu. If anything the lag is your fault because you brought the giant blobs to the front in the first place.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMwdAc1Dzfg Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Eldo Davip ([email protected]) |
Ruiryu
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Posted - 2007.09.15 15:54:00 -
[467]
Originally by: Seth Quantix Cry me to the moon..........
Goons talking about blobbing yet they are using multi alliances to attack a single one.......i don't do math but i think there is a number problem there.
One second I have to laugh.
Are you new to the game or forums?
Really. . . BoB isn't the only alliance attacking here. You have your pets and other alliances in here as well. Rise? Red Moon Federation? Fetal? MC? CoW? Are those alliances figments of imagination or am I just going crazy?
Please dude, as much as your bobbite fanboism is stop to think about what your posting.
As far as BoB space goes, and us invading and trying to take it. Ahhhh. . . It's 0.0 space kiddo, secondly the areas were steam rolling at this time well wasn't yours to begin with. We will let you know when were taking "your" space, until then leave the posting to those who can think.
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Mirena Bauler
Capital Spaceship Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.15 15:57:00 -
[468]
Originally by: Erosie
Stuff
care to post with main ?
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papaPadla
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 15:58:00 -
[469]
Originally by: sov68n
Originally by: Nero Winger Adapt guys, dont cry, just adapt to changes.
lol you idiot, what changes? server lag doesnt progressively get worse so as to impose a situation of "change."
We blob more because you blob more. we did adapt. stfu. If anything the lag is your fault because you brought the giant blobs to the front in the first place.
When have the goonb ever used another thatctic but the huge frig blob? adapt means to use something new... not just make the damn blob bigger and no... using more noob ships to inflate the bob does not mean they have adapted -------------------------------------
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Mirena Bauler
Capital Spaceship Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.15 15:58:00 -
[470]
Originally by: Ruiryu
MOre stuff
And Goonies fighing without RA and others ?
U just a ******* tard :)
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Sasha Evergreen
Gallente Sand Castle Generals
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Posted - 2007.09.15 15:59:00 -
[471]
Originally by: Ruiryu One second I have to laugh.
Are you new to the game or forums?
Really. . . BoB isn't the only alliance attacking here. You have your pets and other alliances in here as well. Rise? Red Moon Federation? Fetal? MC? CoW? Are those alliances figments of imagination or am I just going crazy?
When were Goons attacking BOB? Goons sucessfully defended against a BOB invasion and now are attacking some other alliances in the neighbourhood.
Yeah, we know, BOB does intend to claim all the glory for themselves in the end, and possilbly dissolve some of the weaker allies like they did with Xelas.
Who killed D2?
Band of Brothers did.
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Ruiryu
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Posted - 2007.09.15 16:01:00 -
[472]
Originally by: Mirena Bauler
Originally by: Erosie
Stuff
care to post with main ?
This is my main ******. Move along. Check in game who this character is. Stop making pointless posts.
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Mirena Bauler
Capital Spaceship Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.15 16:03:00 -
[473]
Originally by: Ruiryu
Originally by: Mirena Bauler
Originally by: Erosie
Stuff
care to post with main ?
This is my main ******. Move along. Check in game who this character is. Stop making pointless posts.
So just go to ******* settings , and select - show corporation option . Asshat
Have a nice day :)
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Erosie
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Posted - 2007.09.15 16:03:00 -
[474]
Originally by: Mirena Bauler
Originally by: Erosie
Stuff
care to post with main ?
No, you?? My main is a BoB spy you see, whats your excuse??
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Ruiryu
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Posted - 2007.09.15 16:03:00 -
[475]
Originally by: Sasha Evergreen
Originally by: Ruiryu One second I have to laugh.
Are you new to the game or forums?
Really. . . BoB isn't the only alliance attacking here. You have your pets and other alliances in here as well. Rise? Red Moon Federation? Fetal? MC? CoW? Are those alliances figments of imagination or am I just going crazy?
When were Goons attacking BOB? Goons sucessfully defended against a BOB invasion and now are attacking some other alliances in the neighbourhood.
Yeah, we know, BOB does intend to claim all the glory for themselves in the end, and possilbly dissolve some of the weaker allies like they did with Xelas.
Who killed D2?
Band of Brothers did.
Need I mention who did all the work before BoB cleaned the remaining bit up to finish that fight? Really the propaganda here is sickening, MC did all the work bob just moved in at the end. But GG at the attempt to make my post pointless. Move along whos next?
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papaPadla
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 16:03:00 -
[476]
Originally by: Erosie There's a diffenrence between bringing real people to the fight, people who all have an EvE account mind you, and bringing loads and loads of fighters, drones, and whatnot. Fighter & Drones wont complain about lag, but they also dont pay for Oveurs newest Lamborghini is it? That BoB & Co dont have enough friends to field even numbers againts the Coalition, so instead use their expensive toy's to lag a system down is kind of lame imho.
You know real people complain when things are not treaten even. Suprise?? Yeah lets flame them for that, but please stfu when all those people create a threadnought which is also within the game mechanics. Yes indeed, your fighters/drones cant post here...
BoB = scum of EvE and all should know about this. You will never encounter a small roaming BoB gang of 10 - 20, because they're affraid to lose. Noone other alliance does this, i have respect for Fix, RISE, MC and all other Alliance alliances, exect BoB. Really you BoB guys are soo lame. And all the time chest beating when they won an uneven match. tsk tsk
come cry on my shoulder
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papaPadla
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 16:05:00 -
[477]
Originally by: Ruiryu Need I mention who did all the work before BoB cleaned the remaining bit up to finish that fight? Really the propaganda here is sickening, MC did all the work bob just moved in at the end. But GG at the attempt to make my post pointless. Move along whos next?
ever heard of sarcasm? -------------------------------------
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Mirena Bauler
Capital Spaceship Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.15 16:06:00 -
[478]
Originally by: Erosie
Originally by: Mirena Bauler
Originally by: Erosie
Stuff
care to post with main ?
No, you?? My main is a BoB spy you see, whats your excuse??
LOL , try something new u silly boy/girl :)
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Erosie
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Posted - 2007.09.15 16:06:00 -
[479]
Originally by: papaPadla
Originally by: Erosie bla
come cry on my shoulder
No i wont, i dont know where that shoulder has been. Besides im affraid its still wet from the last time your Alliance buddy cried on it, when his lost a expensive internet spaceship..
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 16:08:00 -
[480]
Originally by: Erosie
Originally by: Knocturnal
Originally by: Malachon Draco
No, there is 2 different things here. Yes everybody suffers horrible lag from time to time. And much of it is completely unavoidable as you can't order people not to show up.
But when it comes to drones, there CCP has options. They could for example reduce the number of normal drones to 3, and double their damage and hitpoints, and reduce the max number of fighter drones to 5, with triple the damage and triple the armor/hull/shield. For Motherships, the bonuses could be tweaked that they can have max 5 fighters, but with 5 times the damage etc so that the total damage is not reduced.
All the lag caused by 500 people showing up is pretty much unavoidable, because any attempt to stop it from CCPs end is easily circumvented/exploitable. But when it comes to drones/fighters, CCP has the tools to actually reduce lag effectively.
And why do you keep avoiding the main point I am trying to make. Think 6 months ahead, think a year ahead. Will the game still be playable for ANYONE if we get 100+ carriers on each side?
Fielding Noobships is ok .. huh ? yeah fleet battles when you bring ship .. but fielding hundreds of t1 firgs and noobships won't create lag ... but huh that's ok...
There's a diffenrence between bringing real people to the fight, people who all have an EvE account mind you, and bringing loads and loads of fighters, drones, and whatnot. Fighter & Drones wont complain about lag, but they also dont pay for Oveurs newest Lamborghini is it? That BoB & Co dont have enough friends to field even numbers againts the Coalition, so instead use their expensive toy's to lag a system down is kind of lame imho.
You know real people complain when things are not treaten even. Suprise?? Yeah lets flame them for that, but please stfu when all those people create a threadnought which is also within the game mechanics. Yes indeed, your fighters/drones cant post here...
BoB = scum of EvE and all should know about this. You will never encounter a small roaming BoB gang of 10 - 20, because they're affraid to lose. Noone other alliance does this, i have respect for Fix, RISE, MC and all other Alliance alliances, exect BoB. Really you BoB guys are soo lame. And all the time chest beating when they won an uneven match. tsk tsk
Afraid to lose ,roflmaooooooo, hahahahaa. Reminded me of the time when we had 30 ish caps and they had 70+ and we sat and 'WAITED' for them to jump us. Sure sounds like fear to me, your propoganda is weak little girl, arf
Allied forces strike coalition fleet, wrecking for toys thrown out of pram damage ^^ |
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papaPadla
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 16:09:00 -
[481]
Originally by: Erosie No i wont, i dont know where that shoulder has been. Besides im affraid its still wet from the last time your Alliance buddy cried on it, when his lost a expensive internet spaceship..
ummmm as always you missed the point little alt... -------------------------------------
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 16:11:00 -
[482]
Edited by: fire 59 on 15/09/2007 16:11:42
Originally by: sov68n
Originally by: Nero Winger Adapt guys, dont cry, just adapt to changes.
lol you idiot, what changes? server lag doesnt progressively get worse so as to impose a situation of "change."
We blob more because you blob more. we did adapt. stfu. If anything the lag is your fault because you brought the giant blobs to the front in the first place.
Hang on, you're saying that it's us who are the blobbers, hahahahaha, omg i haven't laughed so much in ages. Seriously, i wonder about the mental health of you guys, do you actually believe this dribble coming out of your mouths, it's hilarious, and abit scary in a deluded hannibal lectur kind of way.
I recommend a film,ice cream and tissue for your salty tears
Allied forces strike coalition fleet, wrecking for toys thrown out of pram damage ^^ |
Ahmune
Sheer Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.15 16:14:00 -
[483]
Interesting times. __________________________________________
CAOD Thought of the Day: I see angry people. |
feedbegin
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Posted - 2007.09.15 16:15:00 -
[484]
playing like BOB do to freeze all attacking force is a very good tactic who will make them invulnerable ,in any other game using mechanic like that will be considered as exploit
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Mirena Bauler
Capital Spaceship Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.15 16:32:00 -
[485]
Originally by: feedbegin Alt post removed - post with your main! If this is your main, see the rules for details on how to stop your posts getting removed - Serathu ([email protected])
I told u u - go to settings - select option - show corporation
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Tney
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Posted - 2007.09.15 16:34:00 -
[486]
I think the only way the goons know how to 'adapt' is to write a letter to CCP threatening to quit the game if they dont fix their problems for them.
Basically the only counter to a blob right now is a blob. Well played BoB.
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Olli Hokkanen
Full Life Alternative
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Posted - 2007.09.15 16:37:00 -
[487]
TONIGHT WE DINE IN 0oyz
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Hank Rearden
Gallente Hooded Monk Mining Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.15 16:38:00 -
[488]
What is truely interesting about all of this is not who wins or looses but how this pans out in the long run. Last time the Swarm basically Blackmailed CCP into making game changes to thier advantage threw probably illegal defemation all over the internet. The real interesting thing hear is will CCP be blackmialed again and if they are ... what does that mean for EVE should everyone just give the swarm there logins now or will CCP actually stand up this time. This is what makes this thread truely interesting I personally am on the fence I love eve but I would love to have the time for something else as well. I suppose I am sort of like some form of addict hoping for the habit to be taken away so to the Swarm Blackmail them again to CCP grow some integrity eather way I will be half content now back to it everyone.
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Olli Hokkanen
Full Life Alternative
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Posted - 2007.09.15 16:42:00 -
[489]
Originally by: Hank Rearden What is truely interesting about all of this is not who wins or looses but how this pans out in the long run. Last time the Swarm basically Blackmailed CCP into making game changes to thier advantage threw probably illegal defemation all over the internet. The real interesting thing hear is will CCP be blackmialed again and if they are ... what does that mean for EVE should everyone just give the swarm there logins now or will CCP actually stand up this time. This is what makes this thread truely interesting I personally am on the fence I love eve but I would love to have the time for something else as well. I suppose I am sort of like some form of addict hoping for the habit to be taken away so to the Swarm Blackmail them again to CCP grow some integrity eather way I will be half content now back to it everyone.
hi dbp
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Hank Rearden
Gallente Hooded Monk Mining Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.15 16:46:00 -
[490]
LOL check charecter history this one is older then dbps I think so he is my alt but close enough I would think.
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Florio
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 17:00:00 -
[491]
Edited by: Florio on 15/09/2007 17:01:50 Edited by: Florio on 15/09/2007 17:00:37
Originally by: sov68n We blob more because you blob more. we did adapt. stfu. If anything the lag is your fault because you brought the giant blobs to the front in the first place.
omg! i just have to highlight this it astounds me! that's a goon talking!
The only goon tactic is brainless blobbing, both in game and on the forums. This is because they have **** tactics and **** leadership. Pretty much the only response to a 3:1 odds goon blob is to even up the ratio by bringing allies to the party. So the goons have brought us to this point and that they are crying about it makes me belly laugh. And if some of them are suggesting we started it, well, everyone in eve is just gonna laugh at them 'cos everyone knows the truth. There is a possible solution for goons, but I just don't think they're a good enough alliance for it.
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Olli Hokkanen
Full Life Alternative
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Posted - 2007.09.15 17:06:00 -
[492]
Originally by: Florio Edited by: Florio on 15/09/2007 17:01:50 Edited by: Florio on 15/09/2007 17:00:37
Originally by: sov68n We blob more because you blob more. we did adapt. stfu. If anything the lag is your fault because you brought the giant blobs to the front in the first place.
omg! i just have to highlight this it astounds me! that's a goon talking!
The only goon tactic is brainless blobbing, both in game and on the forums. This is because they have **** tactics and **** leadership. Pretty much the only response to a 3:1 odds goon blob is to even up the ratio by bringing allies to the party. So the goons have brought us to this point and that they are crying about it makes me belly laugh. And if some of them are suggesting we started it, well, everyone in eve is just gonna laugh at them 'cos everyone knows the truth. There is a possible solution for goons, but I just don't think they're a good enough alliance for it.
whatever method kills bob is acceptable afterall you set so high standards yourself
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Ruiryu
Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 17:19:00 -
[493]
Originally by: Florio Edited by: Florio on 15/09/2007 17:01:50 Edited by: Florio on 15/09/2007 17:00:37
Originally by: sov68n We blob more because you blob more. we did adapt. stfu. If anything the lag is your fault because you brought the giant blobs to the front in the first place.
omg! i just have to highlight this it astounds me! that's a goon talking!
The only goon tactic is brainless blobbing, both in game and on the forums. This is because they have **** tactics and **** leadership. Pretty much the only response to a 3:1 odds goon blob is to even up the ratio by bringing allies to the party. So the goons have brought us to this point and that they are crying about it makes me belly laugh. And if some of them are suggesting we started it, well, everyone in eve is just gonna laugh at them 'cos everyone knows the truth. There is a possible solution for goons, but I just don't think they're a good enough alliance for it.
I could say the same thing about the bob gangs and fleets I've seen. Your FCing hasn't been anything to boast about either bud. BoB tactics have been equally been lame and not to mention you guys have a nice record of exploiting the hell out of the game. Before you start talking tactics, you might want to make sure your slate is damn clean. Other wise you get this. Move along, and try again later.
This is here is another great example of another BoB with out the ability to think about what he is posting.
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 17:23:00 -
[494]
It's very nice to be able to pop back to read CAOD occasionally and find that everyone is just as ******** as ever
This thread was most entertaining over breakfast today.
Blog
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Khorian
Gallente Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.09.15 17:30:00 -
[495]
Edited by: Khorian on 15/09/2007 17:31:41 The goons invented the mega blob in JV1V. One thousand ships for the destruction of one PoS. End of story :)
Sow wind, reap storm. Welcome to BoB territory, we hope you enjoy your stay. NOW you can show what you are really made off, you claim to be quite good PoS killers. Bring it on.
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Kieranda
Weyland-Yutani Future Technologies Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.15 17:30:00 -
[496]
Question remains, would BOB have complained as much if they would have lost this fight due to the lag favouring the other side?
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Ruiryu
Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 17:32:00 -
[497]
Originally by: Kieranda Question remains, would BOB have complained as much if they would have lost this fight due to the lag favouring the other side?
They have once already.
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Kaaii
Caldari Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.09.15 17:33:00 -
[498]
Originally by: Kieranda Question remains, ..
No it doesn't... Oooh wait, i see what you did there.
According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
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Joeyboy
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.15 17:42:00 -
[499]
This is now the second time goons have lost big and whined about lag. Not too long ago, BOB pets lost big (8 caps?) and whined about lag, and the goons were all over them saying it was just an excuse...
To me, this sounds like the goons are sore losers.
Even worse, they are constantly on the forums smacking about their soon to be victory.
Personally, I root for the side that has the least obnoxious smack on the forums. For the last few months the BOB side has been less obnoxious than the goon side, so GO BOB!
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Eskalin
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 17:44:00 -
[500]
There is an ASCN level of whine in this thread I'm impressed
If babies were not meant to be eaten then they wouldn't be hibachi sized.
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Twoside
Gallente Seven.
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Posted - 2007.09.15 17:52:00 -
[501]
It took just 1 won battle to bring bob back to their old low level? This thread needs more windy****s and other alts, all this showing face is very disturbing! |
fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 18:12:00 -
[502]
Originally by: Twoside It took just 1 won battle to bring bob back to their old low level? This thread needs more windy****s and other alts, all this showing face is very disturbing!
Got nothing to do with beating the coalition, not exactly the first time it has happened in this 7 mth long war. Were just ha-ha'ing and lol-ing at the blobbers whineing, not just a little, but alot about something that they waddle about all proud about creating.
Pure comedy
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Lochmar Fiendhiem
Caldari International Multi-Player Consortium Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.15 18:18:00 -
[503]
I'm confused here, bob lost 2 regions, then won one battle due to they're all awe-inspiring tactic of flooding local to the point of breaking so that one one but the GBC can get in or out (not due to camps but due to insane lag) and now, all of a sudden, the tables have been turned?
sorry bob, 2 regions DOES NOT equal 1 battle.
they outblobbed us in ed- with 500 somone people and even more fighters then that, and did the exact same thing in 25s.
Bob's new tactic, fighter lag of doooooooooooooom.
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ED 209
Old Detroit Crime Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.09.15 18:20:00 -
[504]
Originally by: Erik Amirault Edited by: Erik Amirault on 14/09/2007 23:38:12 Using massive fighter blobs (causing significant lag) isn't a cheat or a hack. It is however incredibly pathetic and indicative of a general inability to succeed by any other way.
Hearing goons talk that way makes me hard.
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Ruiryu
Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 18:21:00 -
[505]
Originally by: Joeyboy This is now the second time goons have lost big and whined about lag. Not too long ago, BOB pets lost big (8 caps?) and whined about lag, and the goons were all over them saying it was just an excuse...
To me, this sounds like the goons are sore losers.
Even worse, they are constantly on the forums smacking about their soon to be victory.
Personally, I root for the side that has the least obnoxious smack on the forums. For the last few months the BOB side has been less obnoxious than the goon side, so GO BOB!
Take a look at the level of this battle and the one your comparing it to. GG on using your brain to compare these two fights. Go back to being a mindless bobbit.
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 18:24:00 -
[506]
Congrats on bob to winning a battle. Anyone arguing that goons somehow won something here is ******* ********. We got beat. Ok, we got beat. It happens. We have certainly lost plenty before and we will again. However BoB, it belittles you to be so proud about being able to lock down a system while you repair towers. This was not some "grand strategy" it was a solid numbers defense.
In the meantime, good fight, and let's not forget who has been pushing who back until this point eh?
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Plaetean
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2007.09.15 18:24:00 -
[507]
OMG wtf BoB? What are you thinking using fighters in an engagement? lolzorhax?!
Goons complaining about blobbing is fantastic irony, go bring down the forums about it..
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 18:28:00 -
[508]
Originally by: Lochmar Fiendhiem I'm confused here, bob lost 2 regions, then won one battle due to they're all awe-inspiring tactic of flooding local to the point of breaking so that one one but the GBC can get in or out (not due to camps but due to insane lag) and now, all of a sudden, the tables have been turned?
sorry bob, 2 regions DOES NOT equal 1 battle.
they outblobbed us in ed- with 500 somone people and even more fighters then that, and did the exact same thing in 25s.
Bob's new tactic, fighter lag of doooooooooooooom.
Fotm excuse it seems. You lot had 300+ in ed, we had 200 so how did you get around to us having 500 people in system? Day by day i thank god or whatever the hell is out there that im aligned to the people i am because your lot are the whiniest bunch of excuse making sore losers ever.
Dust yourself of and get on with it.
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Daysan
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Posted - 2007.09.15 18:45:00 -
[509]
I think, finally, BoB have discovered what MC knew all along: Carrier Fleet > BS fleet. This appears to be BoB implementing this long over due realization. So, stop whining. I do very much dislike bob, but the more i hear out of RAGOONFEDIAAAAC etc, I don't like BoB any more, but i like you whiney lot one hell of a lot less.
If anyone in this game is guilty of maliciously causing lag, goons and AAA are at the top of that list. Too bad RA had to get caught in with this mob.
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ED 209
Old Detroit Crime Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.09.15 18:47:00 -
[510]
Originally by: Wizie
Originally by: Dooshotron Short answer, no, no I wont complain I will probably die as usual, head back to Base, get a new ship and get back in fight.
By base you mean Jita right? oooo ICE BURN
No, the drone regions, where all the weak rejects go.
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ED 209
Old Detroit Crime Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.09.15 18:50:00 -
[511]
Originally by: The Pilot
Originally by: Mutant most ppl login to game for fun, today bob's have fun and we have lag. we could stop this ops but we hoped to more playable. ra not give any more fun to our opponents, we start play by old rules again.
ETA until "we play for fun only and don't want to be bothered with RA anymore «THEFIVE"
LOL, go ahead and spam small pos everywhere, see what that gets you.
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Eskalin
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 18:58:00 -
[512]
i think we have heard this before
If babies were not meant to be eaten then they wouldn't be hibachi sized.
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ED 209
Old Detroit Crime Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.09.15 19:00:00 -
[513]
Originally by: Darcuese Still dont understand why bitternes?
As somebody else said, there were lot more fights with far more worst lag then last night.
And, will say again....its all just pointless killboard ratio in the end
The bittrness is because last week when bob repped the towers, goons chickend out and didnt attack bob despite have a 3:1 ratio in ships and caps (ofc no goon caps :p). So, they all flamed their leadership on their forums and ingame. It was way worse than what you see here as far as tantrums go. SO, their leadership had no choice but to engage bob saturday. It is pure comedy with what resulted. I'll tell ya, buying goon forum access for 5M isk was well worth the commedy I read daily. I'll keep reading that well aftr my eve account expires.
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Shadowsword
COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.15 19:25:00 -
[514]
I won't comment on this battle, but from personal experience, I'm pretty sure that there's something fishy about titan's jump portails, and carriers releasing their fighters. The lag generated by those two things is all out of proportion with players jumping via a gate, of a handfull of players launching their drones.
Example: one of TCF's battles against morsus mihi, back in tribute. The lag was fine, then MM cynoed 4 carriers on top of us. The graphical effects made us lag a bit, but it was quickly coming back the previous performance level. Then they launched their fighters, and it became a slide-show for 10 minutes. ------------------------------------------
What is Oomph? It the sound Amarr players makes when they get kicked in the ribs. |
Nova Cygni
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 19:26:00 -
[515]
Edited by: Nova Cygni on 15/09/2007 19:27:56 my favorite part of these threads is when people who have apparently never even seen a true fleet battle, and certainly were nowhere around for the battle being discussed, decide that they have incredibly useful commentary to add on it. its pretty cute.
fighters are broken. not their DPS, not their design, not their abilities. there is something broken in their coding, and its making fleet battles terrible.
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Kaldaine
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 19:36:00 -
[516]
Originally by: Daysan
If anyone in this game is guilty of maliciously causing lag, goons and AAA are at the top of that list. Too bad RA had to get caught in with this mob.
Do you actually have proof of this or are you going by the usual stereotypes like everyone else on the forums? Im sure if one of our enemies had actually killed someone with a single bookmark in their hold we would have the front page of caod filled with posts about goonie lagsploits and bookmark bombs. I guess you can also claim we intentionally lag using rookie ships and shuttles as long as you dont actually look at killboards or anything. Lately even our frigate losses are at an all time low, even though those are legitimate combat ships. I could further go into gang numbers, numbers of BS and T2 ships and capitols but Ill let you find those things out for yourself.
These lol goonies intentionally lag arguements fall flat pretty quickly for want of proof and are the result of events that happened over a year ago. They are easily debunked by spending 5 minutes on our enemies killboard.
Im not counting the losses from yesterday as it was decided to suicide into system for fun when it became impractical to fight our way in.
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Shoukei
Boobs Ahoy
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Posted - 2007.09.15 19:44:00 -
[517]
Originally by: Nova Cygni my favorite part of these threads is when people who have apparently never even seen a true fleet battle, and certainly were nowhere around for the battle being discussed, decide that they have incredibly useful commentary to add on it. its pretty cute.
there is only one thing cute about this thread. that is seeing people who excel at causing lag and crashing nodes cry and whine.
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Yggdrassill Yeltsin
The Greater Goon
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Posted - 2007.09.15 19:44:00 -
[518]
Edited by: Yggdrassill Yeltsin on 15/09/2007 19:44:37
Originally by: Kaldaine
These lol goonies intentionally lag arguements fall flat pretty quickly for want of proof and are the result of events that happened over a year ago. They are easily debunked by spending 5 minutes on our enemies killboard.
Not that you're wrong, but if you're going to use this argument about Goons and lag, you're going to be making it applicable to BoB and cheating in a few months.
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Kaldaine
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 19:46:00 -
[519]
Originally by: Yggdrassill Yeltsin Edited by: Yggdrassill Yeltsin on 15/09/2007 19:44:37
Originally by: Kaldaine
These lol goonies intentionally lag arguements fall flat pretty quickly for want of proof and are the result of events that happened over a year ago. They are easily debunked by spending 5 minutes on our enemies killboard.
Not that you're wrong, but if you're going to use this argument about Goons and lag, you're going to be making it applicable to BoB and cheating in a few months.
I reserve the right to hypocrisy
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Meica XXL
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2007.09.15 19:49:00 -
[520]
Originally by: Kaldaine
Originally by: Daysan
If anyone in this game is guilty of maliciously causing lag, goons and AAA are at the top of that list. Too bad RA had to get caught in with this mob.
Do you actually have proof of this or are you going by the usual stereotypes like everyone else on the forums? Im sure if one of our enemies had actually killed someone with a single bookmark in their hold we would have the front page of caod filled with posts about goonie lagsploits and bookmark bombs. I guess you can also claim we intentionally lag using rookie ships and shuttles as long as you dont actually look at killboards or anything. Lately even our frigate losses are at an all time low, even though those are legitimate combat ships. I could further go into gang numbers, numbers of BS and T2 ships and capitols but Ill let you find those things out for yourself.
These lol goonies intentionally lag arguements fall flat pretty quickly for want of proof and are the result of events that happened over a year ago. They are easily debunked by spending 5 minutes on our enemies killboard.
Im not counting the losses from yesterday as it was decided to suicide into system for fun when it became impractical to fight our way in.
I laughed, as always regarding hypocritical goons posts. So many words ... from someone who doesn't take a game about internetz spaceshipz too seriously. Hrhrhrhr.
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ry ry
StateCorp The State
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Posted - 2007.09.15 19:50:00 -
[521]
Edited by: ry ry on 15/09/2007 19:50:45
Without getting involved in the smack, there is a valid point here.
Eve can't physically do the giant fleet battles you want it to.
CCP know that. we know that. hell, even ******* derek knows that. The question is, how can they fix it? bare in mind the can't just 'fix' lag with a little bit of code optimisation. its really not that simple, and if it was CCP clearly would have done that ages ago.
I don't know the answer, but hard limits on ships in system and instanced fleet battles are just two of the rubbish suggestions that spring instantly to mind.
Anybody got any better suggestions?
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Yggdrassill Yeltsin
The Greater Goon
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Posted - 2007.09.15 19:55:00 -
[522]
Edited by: Yggdrassill Yeltsin on 15/09/2007 19:56:22
Originally by: ry ry Edited by: ry ry on 15/09/2007 19:50:45
Without getting involved in the smack, there is a valid point here.
Eve can't physically do the giant fleet battles you want it to.
CCP know that. we know that. hell, even ******* derek knows that. The question is, how can they fix it? bare in mind the can't just 'fix' lag with a little bit of code optimisation. its really not that simple, and if it was CCP clearly would have done that ages ago.
I don't know the answer, but hard limits on ships in system and instanced fleet battles are just two of the rubbish suggestions that spring instantly to mind.
Anybody got any better suggestions?
Why not start with the little code optimizations and go from there? It seems preferable to gutting the PVP heart of the game, and if there's any visible difference at all it'll make people happier for a little while. If the game keeps growing, those optimizations and fixes to fighter mechanics will need to be done REGARDLESS; saying how it's blackmail or bitter goons doesn't change that. Why not deal with it sooner rather than later?
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ry ry
StateCorp The State
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Posted - 2007.09.15 19:57:00 -
[523]
i'm just not convinced that slicker code will ever make 500 ship battles viable.
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Tilta
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 19:58:00 -
[524]
Originally by: Khorian Edited by: Khorian on 15/09/2007 17:31:41 The goons invented the mega blob in JV1V. One thousand ships for the destruction of one PoS. End of story :)
Sow wind, reap storm. Welcome to BoB territory, we hope you enjoy your stay. NOW you can show what you are really made off, you claim to be quite good PoS killers. Bring it on.
EC-P8R.
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Yggdrassill Yeltsin
The Greater Goon
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Posted - 2007.09.15 20:04:00 -
[525]
Originally by: Tilta
Originally by: Khorian Edited by: Khorian on 15/09/2007 17:31:41 The goons invented the mega blob in JV1V. One thousand ships for the destruction of one PoS. End of story :)
Sow wind, reap storm. Welcome to BoB territory, we hope you enjoy your stay. NOW you can show what you are really made off, you claim to be quite good PoS killers. Bring it on.
EC-P8R.
What happened there?
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Kozak
Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.09.15 20:09:00 -
[526]
Originally by: Daysan If anyone in this game is guilty of maliciously causing lag, goons and AAA are at the top of that list. Too bad RA had to get caught in with this mob.
I heard You like child ****ography. Without any proof, anyone can say anything I guess. I heard that you also like to make love to goats. I don't have proof, but I said it on these forums so it's true.
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Kozak
Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.09.15 20:12:00 -
[527]
Originally by: Khorian Sow wind, reap storm. Welcome to BoB territory, we hope you enjoy your stay. NOW you can show what you are really made off, you claim to be quite good PoS killers. Bring it on.
I though it was Rise territory. LOL!
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Omega Man
The Geddy Foundation
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Posted - 2007.09.15 20:16:00 -
[528]
alarming levels of irony have been detected in this thread.
Those without a sense of humor should consult a Band of Brother corp member instantly for assistance in understanding why this is all so funny. -
Happy user of CAOD troll cleaner http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=584345 |
Yggdrassill Yeltsin
The Greater Goon
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Posted - 2007.09.15 20:22:00 -
[529]
Edited by: Yggdrassill Yeltsin on 15/09/2007 20:22:41
Originally by: Omega Man alarming levels of irony have been detected in this thread.
Those without a sense of humor should consult a Band of Brother corp member instantly for assistance in understanding why this is all so funny.
As long as we can agree that the problems causing the worst of the lag (in this case drone swarms) need to be fixed as soon as possible, I don't think anyone would have a problem with mocking goonfleeters who said that BoB is being unfair by 'exploiting game mechanics.'
We just have to be sure that we're considering the difference between Goonfleet folks who want the lag fixed because it makes the game unplayable and Goonfleet folks who want it fixed because 'wahh BoB haxlagsploits.' Because that **** IS really funny.
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Tzrailasa
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 20:23:00 -
[530]
Originally by: Daysan If anyone in this game is guilty of maliciously causing lag, goons and AAA are at the top of that list. Too bad RA had to get caught in with this mob.
I'll jump in and defend AAA here.
I've never seen them bring anything but their best effort. Some of their tactics I might not agree with, but they're good players, and doesn't IMHO use lag as a weapon.
RA and their pets on the other hand....
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queen1121
Empire Dreams
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Posted - 2007.09.15 20:25:00 -
[531]
Originally by: Kozak
Originally by: Khorian Sow wind, reap storm. Welcome to BoB territory, we hope you enjoy your stay. NOW you can show what you are really made off, you claim to be quite good PoS killers. Bring it on.
I though it was Rise territory. LOL!
I've heard it was ASCN territory. LOL!
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Omega Man
The Geddy Foundation
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Posted - 2007.09.15 20:26:00 -
[532]
Originally by: Kozak
Originally by: Daysan If anyone in this game is guilty of maliciously causing lag, goons and AAA are at the top of that list. Too bad RA had to get caught in with this mob.
I heard You like child ****ography. Without any proof, anyone can say anything I guess. I heard that you also like to make love to goats. I don't have proof, but I said it on these forums so it's true.
You guess wrong, its why libel and slander are offences backed up by law. -
Happy user of CAOD troll cleaner http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=584345 |
COJOi
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 20:28:00 -
[533]
Goons got pwned again! WTF! Good fight Goons and congragulations for bringing it. Good fight.
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Yggdrassill Yeltsin
The Greater Goon
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Posted - 2007.09.15 20:28:00 -
[534]
Originally by: Omega Man
Originally by: Kozak
Originally by: Daysan If anyone in this game is guilty of maliciously causing lag, goons and AAA are at the top of that list. Too bad RA had to get caught in with this mob.
I heard You like child ****ography. Without any proof, anyone can say anything I guess. I heard that you also like to make love to goats. I don't have proof, but I said it on these forums so it's true.
You guess wrong, its why libel and slander are offences backed up by law.
Tada! You strengthen his point.
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Yggdrassill Yeltsin
The Greater Goon
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Posted - 2007.09.15 20:30:00 -
[535]
Originally by: COJOi Goons got pwned again! WTF! Good fight Goons and congragulations for bringing it. Good fight.
What, just now?
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Tzrailasa
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 20:30:00 -
[536]
Edited by: Tzrailasa on 15/09/2007 20:31:30
Originally by: Yggdrassill Yeltsin As long as we can agree that the problems causing the worst of the lag (in this case drone swarms) need to be fixed as soon as possible...
While we agree that lag needs to be fixed, drones are far down on the list of things causing lag.
If they WERE lag causing, then just having them out would make a system laggy.
THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN!
Example: 100 carriers launch their drones and have them orbit... No significant increase in lag. If the argument was in any way valid, then this WOULD cause the system to grind to a halt. Since it doesn't, the argument is patently FALSE.
The lag doesn't start until ships start shooting each other. Massive amounts of player actions, and repeated weapon calculations are the cause of lag, not something as relatively simple to calculate as a drone...
My views are my own. They do not represent the views of my corporation or alliance. |
Ace Frehley
Minmatar Trinity Nova KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.15 20:31:00 -
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Edited by: Ace Frehley on 15/09/2007 20:31:43 And to another very importent newz.
My fridge just blobed me with a overwehlming amount of cold beer Btw that type of blobing I will allow to continue
Over and out..
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sapage1
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 20:36:00 -
[538]
Originally by: Nova Cygni Edited by: Nova Cygni on 15/09/2007 19:27:56 my favorite part of these threads is when people who have apparently never even seen a true fleet battle, and certainly were nowhere around for the battle being discussed, decide that they have incredibly useful commentary to add on it. its pretty cute.
fighters are broken. not their DPS, not their design, not their abilities. there is something broken in their coding, and its making fleet battles terrible.
Long time reader first time poster but I would just like to point out the irony of you posting about people who have not been in fleet battles and giving their option and then segwaying to a diatribe on how the "coding" of fighters is broken when you know nothing about the game code yourself.
Congrats you win at broken logic.... Your Sig is great but we are not allowed to let you have it.... |
Mr Broker
Station Gremlings
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Posted - 2007.09.15 20:40:00 -
[539]
Originally by: Tzrailasa
While we agree that lag needs to be fixed, drones are far down on the list of things causing lag.
at least we agree they're on the list of lag generators, so let's see what's what after they're fixed.
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Yggdrassill Yeltsin
The Greater Goon
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Posted - 2007.09.15 20:42:00 -
[540]
Originally by: Mr Broker
Originally by: Tzrailasa
While we agree that lag needs to be fixed, drones are far down on the list of things causing lag.
at least we agree they're on the list of lag generators, so let's see what's what after they're fixed.
Yup!
Originally by: Tzrailasa Edited by: Tzrailasa on 15/09/2007 20:31:30
Originally by: Yggdrassill Yeltsin As long as we can agree that the problems causing the worst of the lag (in this case drone swarms) need to be fixed as soon as possible...
While we agree that lag needs to be fixed, drones are far down on the list of things causing lag.
If they WERE lag causing, then just having them out would make a system laggy.
THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN!
Example: 100 carriers launch their drones and have them orbit... No significant increase in lag. If the argument was in any way valid, then this WOULD cause the system to grind to a halt. Since it doesn't, the argument is patently FALSE.
The lag doesn't start until ships start shooting each other. Massive amounts of player actions, and repeated weapon calculations are the cause of lag, not something as relatively simple to calculate as a drone...
I'm a small-gang player in Syndicate, and I notice a notable (though of course not crippling) increase in lag when a 20 man gang launches their drones. That's just my personal experience in contrast to yours...take it for what you will.
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Nlewis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.15 20:47:00 -
[541]
lag itt
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Shoukei
Boobs Ahoy
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Posted - 2007.09.15 20:50:00 -
[542]
i think drones should be removed from the game. they cause lag.
here be signatures! |
Cyleth
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 20:51:00 -
[543]
Originally by: Twoside It took just 1 won battle to bring bob back to their old low level? This thread needs more windy****s and other alts, all this showing face is very disturbing!
Only disturbing thing is you never got over few things by the looks of it. -- Listen to Club BNC on BoB Radio. Visit our website for schedules.
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Yggdrassill Yeltsin
The Greater Goon
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Posted - 2007.09.15 20:54:00 -
[544]
Originally by: Shoukei i think drones should be removed from the game. they cause lag.
Facetious or not, this is a valid argument. Past a certain point, the lag they create is going to be small next to the coolness factor of having drones in the game. That's where it becomes crucial to eliminate auto-aggression in lag prone environments, where the side with the grid loaded can decimate an opposing fleet with AI, even when players on both sides can't lock.
Originally by: Cyleth
Originally by: Twoside It took just 1 won battle to bring bob back to their old low level? This thread needs more windy****s and other alts, all this showing face is very disturbing!
Only disturbing thing is you never got over few things by the looks of it.
Could you try rephrasing that? I don't understand.
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Cyleth
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 20:56:00 -
[545]
Originally by: Yggdrassill Yeltsin
Originally by: Cyleth
Originally by: Twoside It took just 1 won battle to bring bob back to their old low level? This thread needs more windy****s and other alts, all this showing face is very disturbing!
Only disturbing thing is you never got over few things by the looks of it.
Could you try rephrasing that? I don't understand.
No -- Listen to Club BNC on BoB Radio. Visit our website for schedules.
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Yggdrassill Yeltsin
The Greater Goon
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Posted - 2007.09.15 20:59:00 -
[546]
Originally by: Cyleth
Originally by: Yggdrassill Yeltsin
Originally by: Cyleth
Originally by: Twoside It took just 1 won battle to bring bob back to their old low level? This thread needs more windy****s and other alts, all this showing face is very disturbing!
Only disturbing thing is you never got over few things by the looks of it.
Could you try rephrasing that? I don't understand.
No
Okay. It's just not proper English- I really don't understand.
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Greme
Amarr Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.09.15 21:34:00 -
[547]
Originally by: Yggdrassill Yeltsin That's where it becomes crucial to eliminate auto-aggression in lag prone environments.
Exactly why removing drone auto-agression altogether would be a good thing. I cannot really see any uses for it, it infact causes more trouble for the user than good in alot of situations (eg if they want to jump, dock etc - especially when the bug existed where they would not de-aggro), and the rest of the time is not truly needed (right click - engage ftw?).
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Twoside
Gallente Seven.
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Posted - 2007.09.15 21:35:00 -
[548]
Originally by: Cyleth
Originally by: Twoside It took just 1 won battle to bring bob back to their old low level? This thread needs more windy****s and other alts, all this showing face is very disturbing!
Only disturbing thing is you never got over few things by the looks of it.
Thanks for your concern, I'll be fine some day I'm sure. Also, welcome back to CAOD, I must admit I had to giggle when someone thought you were an alt instead of the genuine article :) |
Ztrain
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 21:42:00 -
[549]
Edited by: Ztrain on 15/09/2007 21:47:35 The problem is not in the drone code. The drones will significantly eat up your computers resources and cause video lag. But as far as server system lag not going to do a whole lot. On deploy or scoop as they are generated or removed may cause a little. But in general, No, what causes more of the lag would be how the server handles the handoffs between the nodes and the initial loading of the grid.
For example we knew how many were in r97 I believe if I recall correctly it was about 240-280 ish. Could be wrong but it was about there. Ether way the initial call came over TS that they were jumping in from the cov ops on the other side. I watch 0oyz local jump up by 40 ships and stop. The server had reached it's maximum capacity for node transfers. Back in ASCN this is why we used to have to have ships by race jump through the gates because the nodes would crash if everyone jumped at once. Well the nodes are not seemingly caped around 40 node to node transactions at a time and will not allow more then that. r97 continued to drop as people jumped but they were not handed off to the 0oyz system until much much later.
As they jumped through in to 0oyz until they had loaded the grid they register as being in transition. After the decloak time is reached a decision is made as to emergency warp off the gate or not. People are still loading the grid and can not move so they emergency in the bubble decloak and die. When they are killed it makes yet another state change on the node. This is the same thing that causes sever lag when a DD goes off. All the ships getting changed in to pods and wreaks the server has problems with. So now you have people trying to session change, update everything in the system and grid they just jumped in to and trying to keep up with changes in that picture. The more that changes and happens the longer it takes compounding that lag again and again. Once someone is dead and not longer there it frees up the queue for the next to start the process.
It is kind of like an artificial funnel filter. You can actually see how a fleet is getting read to enter a system. Are they coming in via jump bridge. Will they have caps through a cyno. Will they have a fleet jumping through a gat. Will there be two fleets with two nodes trying to stack on to one. Will there be a significant number of pilots who logoffski in a system trying to log on trap. Etc, having fought Goons who love to blob incessantly has allowed many observations to be made on what actions affect the server in what way's. Hell you could almost set a stop watch on the intervals between lag spikes and plan for them.
Ether way when you fight 60-80 against 300 Goons night after night you learn what works and what doesn't. You evolve and adapt or you die. But that experience has made knowing how the servers are going to react with what they have and what we have all that more easy.
Goons are now calling for nurfs or fixes to drones. Look at the Rev 3 notes. Their being reinvisioned and supposedly code fixed. But tbh like I've said before the drones aren't the issue. Even if we didn't have the drones there probably wouldn't have been the capital ship kills or would have taken longer to kill them but the lag would have been the same regardless.
The only fix is to get competent developers that design a better more efficient architecture and or reduce the amount of people in fleet fights. But knowing that over the past few months Goons have proven that they can only be effective with 3:1 or more I just don't see that happening. Funny how when we put 300 ships in a system the max they can get in is 400 to reach the cap and that would only be a 1.3:1 engagement. The result are, well they speak for themselves.
Z
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 21:43:00 -
[550]
So, which goon gonna write letter this time?
Will he get cooky
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CkoBoPodKuH
Horns and Hoofs Ltd
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Posted - 2007.09.15 22:29:00 -
[551]
Wow. Bobs and pets killed few capitals in laggs and happily run fast to forums to discuss. Be happy at moment. As per RA promise, boring (much more boring than be a Bob) game awaiting you. hehe
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2007.09.15 22:36:00 -
[552]
Originally by: Omega Man ...blah...
Happy user of CAOD troll cleaner http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=584345
That is one of the funniest things ive read ever on these forums
SKUNK
Originally by: Jeximo I also like how your cat only managed to hit the enter button when he/she jumped on your keyboard.
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Shoukei
Boobs Ahoy
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Posted - 2007.09.15 22:58:00 -
[553]
Originally by: CkoBoPodKuH Wow. Bobs and pets killed few capitals in laggs and happily run fast to forums to discuss. Be happy at moment. As per RA promise, boring (much more boring than be a Bob) game awaiting you. hehe
im posting in a goon whine thread about lag, laughing at the whiners with the rest of the crowd.
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ForumPosterAlt
HERRO KITTY
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Posted - 2007.09.15 23:05:00 -
[554]
Hey guys. Whats this thread about?
Because posting on the forums is serious business. |
laotse
Firing Squad Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.15 23:30:00 -
[555]
its good to see bob and al there second man corp they need like finfleet and co post here keep up asking all to join you you already halfway there. ;) some time ago bob did mean something now its the joke of eve http://80.126.192.128:8888/tfd/uploads/1121735338/gallery_11_8_1124480365.jpg
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papaPadla
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 23:32:00 -
[556]
Originally by: Yggdrassill Yeltsin ... That's where it becomes crucial to eliminate auto-aggression in lag prone environments, where the side with the grid loaded can decimate an opposing fleet with AI, even when players on both sides can't lock.
Can you be more stupid? if noone is able to lock how is the damn auto-agress working... jeez have you started to play yesterday? -------------------------------------
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Shoukei
Boobs Ahoy
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Posted - 2007.09.15 23:35:00 -
[557]
Originally by: laotse its good to see bob and al there second man corp they need like finfleet and co post here keep up asking all to join you you already halfway there. ;) some time ago bob did mean something now its the joke of eve
and arrows will blot out the sun. or so i heard
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Voltron
Caldari Ordinary Kriminals
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Posted - 2007.09.15 23:38:00 -
[558]
Someone mention goats?
Volt
It's great touching your own dink isn't it?
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Bethy Chan
Caldari White Nova Industries R i s e
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Posted - 2007.09.15 23:52:00 -
[559]
Originally by: HydroSan
Originally by: Ztrain Your right because you never fight alone. Let me list the regulars that we see in nearly every egagment with a healty mix of: MEMBEERS Goons - 5100 RA - 1400 UNL - 1000 TCF - 1100 Venom - 322 Ka-Tet - 920 Frege - 2570 Curse - 450 KOS - 1720 We are Nice Guy's (died) AAA - 1050 Invictus - 1050 Freelance Alliance - 600 Ultima Ratio - 930 IAC has been poking around before we even went to catch. - 2400 Pandemic Legion - 527 CVA - 600
Rough Total = 22,600 agressive members(plus those not listed)
The list goes on. So no we don't handle you just by yourselves. But I'd love to see BoB on Goons just the two alliances lol but you'd never let that one happen. Hell who owns omest. Last I looked it was UNL, TCF, and Venom not Goons.
Z
Your right because you never fight alone. Let me list the regulars that we see in nearly every egagment with a healty mix of: MEMBERS BoB - 2700 MC - 500 FIX - 960 RISE - 1020 ISS - 550 YouWhat(isnt around much but w/e) - 990 CoRM - 450 Aftermath - 450 D-L - 380 Exuro Mortis - 540 Axiom - 550
Rough Total = 9090
The list goes on. So no we don't handle you just by yourselves. But I'd love to see Goons on BoB just the two alliances lol but you'd never let that one happen. Hell who owns feyth. Last I looked it was mostly RISE and CoRM not BoB.
H
Edit : Fixed what alliances are more active and show up more in my expierences and... well as u can see close to 23 thousand members taking agressive action towards under 10 thousand... and they are complaining about lagg? thats whats funny about this post everywhere or anything we do we are facing a blob...
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Raketefrau
Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.16 00:13:00 -
[560]
Originally by: Hellspawn666
What i dont understand is all the goon wines for how this game is unplayable... WTF did you expect everyone involved surely knew it was gonna be a lagfest with that many capitals on the grid. And obvioulsy traffic control was gonna lock half of you out. This game is certainly playable as long as you dont stick 600 people in a system with hundreads more in the surrounding area... Try and put 600 people fighting with each other in WOW and see where it gets ya....
Cool, so if you get intel that your enemy is going to attack one of your systems, just park 300 pilots in it, and noone will jump in to fight you. The ultimate defense, you don't even have to fight.
This isn't a statement against either side, it's just more annoyance at a game that allows this to happen. It happened to us in MJ 2 weeks ago, you sit there for 5 hours waiting for the enemy to start the fight, and when it finally starts you see one, maybe two enemies, then the desynchs hit and you're ******.
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HERRO KITTY
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Posted - 2007.09.16 00:14:00 -
[561]
Originally by: Bethy Chan
Originally by: HydroSan
Originally by: Ztrain Your right because you never fight alone. Let me list the regulars that we see in nearly every egagment with a healty mix of: MEMBEERS Goons - 5100 RA - 1400 UNL - 1000 TCF - 1100 Venom - 322 Ka-Tet - 920 Frege - 2570 Curse - 450 KOS - 1720 We are Nice Guy's (died) AAA - 1050 Invictus - 1050 Freelance Alliance - 600 Ultima Ratio - 930 IAC has been poking around before we even went to catch. - 2400 Pandemic Legion - 527 CVA - 600
Rough Total = 22,600 agressive members(plus those not listed)
The list goes on. So no we don't handle you just by yourselves. But I'd love to see BoB on Goons just the two alliances lol but you'd never let that one happen. Hell who owns omest. Last I looked it was UNL, TCF, and Venom not Goons.
Z
Your right because you never fight alone. Let me list the regulars that we see in nearly every egagment with a healty mix of: MEMBERS BoB - 2700 MC - 500 FIX - 960 RISE - 1020 ISS - 550 YouWhat(isnt around much but w/e) - 990 CoRM - 450 Aftermath - 450 D-L - 380 Exuro Mortis - 540 Axiom - 550
Rough Total = 9090
The list goes on. So no we don't handle you just by yourselves. But I'd love to see Goons on BoB just the two alliances lol but you'd never let that one happen. Hell who owns feyth. Last I looked it was mostly RISE and CoRM not BoB.
H
Edit : Fixed what alliances are more active and show up more in my expierences and... well as u can see close to 23 thousand members taking agressive action towards under 10 thousand... and they are complaining about lagg? thats whats funny about this post everywhere or anything we do we are facing a blob...
Don't be a tool please.
I have no doubt that the coalitions outnumbers you in ship count most of the time in engagements, but bringing up corporate totals is worthless.
Thats like counting the number of people employed by the military and counting them as combat soldiers, stop.
What matters is engagements. And in McBob's recent carrier blobs, they certainly have outnumbered coalition forces in terms of objects that have to be loaded. (not even going to mention ISK or SPs, you're welcome)
This is not just a problem in EvE. DAoC has the same problem where lag favors AI controlled mushroom-turrets. A few animists could hold off an entire army in laggy situations because the mushrooms never lagged.
There are some lag reducing solutions for drones that can be implemented that could only help the eve experience.
Basically, treat all drones under a ship's control (delegated or not) as one single unit.
Benefits: Server only telling clients the info of one single drone.
However the client could handle the "cool factor" of drones by splitting them up into separate units.
There are some technicalities that would have to be overcome, but its possible, and worth it.
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7sunami
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.16 01:09:00 -
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Why didn't you guys engaged us in ooy, when the numbers were 30vs30? Why didn't you engaged us when it was 60vs60? Why didn't you guys engaged us when it was 120vs120.
If you engaged us much earlier, you wouldn't be coming here and whining about lag, but whining about how you guys got owned on equal numbers.
The fact that you guys waited til you could have a 1:3 ratio over us, is the reason why you guys lost to lag.
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Kaldaine
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.16 01:13:00 -
[563]
Originally by: Bethy Chan
Originally by: HydroSan
Originally by: Ztrain Your right because you never fight alone. Let me list the regulars that we see in nearly every egagment with a healty mix of: MEMBEERS Goons - 5100 RA - 1400 UNL - 1000 TCF - 1100 Venom - 322 Ka-Tet - 920 Frege - 2570 Curse - 450 KOS - 1720 We are Nice Guy's (died) AAA - 1050 Invictus - 1050 Freelance Alliance - 600 Ultima Ratio - 930 IAC has been poking around before we even went to catch. - 2400 Pandemic Legion - 527 CVA - 600
Rough Total = 22,600 agressive members(plus those not listed)
The list goes on. So no we don't handle you just by yourselves. But I'd love to see BoB on Goons just the two alliances lol but you'd never let that one happen. Hell who owns omest. Last I looked it was UNL, TCF, and Venom not Goons.
Z
Your right because you never fight alone. Let me list the regulars that we see in nearly every egagment with a healty mix of: MEMBERS BoB - 2700 MC - 500 FIX - 960 RISE - 1020 ISS - 550 YouWhat(isnt around much but w/e) - 990 CoRM - 450 Aftermath - 450 D-L - 380 Exuro Mortis - 540 Axiom - 550
Rough Total = 9090
The list goes on. So no we don't handle you just by yourselves. But I'd love to see Goons on BoB just the two alliances lol but you'd never let that one happen. Hell who owns feyth. Last I looked it was mostly RISE and CoRM not BoB.
H
Edit : Fixed what alliances are more active and show up more in my expierences and... well as u can see close to 23 thousand members taking agressive action towards under 10 thousand... and they are complaining about lagg? thats whats funny about this post everywhere or anything we do we are facing a blob...
Oh hey a numbers game I want to play!
LV and friends 10000 members vs RA's 1000 members! Hm outnumbered 10 to 1! Well Lotka Volterra is too honorable to blob (and they dont exist anymore) godamn RA logsploits fight fair you bastards! Maybe you should be thankful that you are only outnumbered ~2:1 instead of 10:1 like RA because LV totally destroyed those nasty russians.
I heard LV had the largest in game alliance and bragged about it on these forums right before they died. They would never blob unlike those evil goonies in a smaller alliance!
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Elmicker
The Phoenix Rising FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.09.16 01:44:00 -
[564]
Originally by: Kaldaine LV and friends 10000 members
you're joking, right?
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ED 209
Old Detroit Crime Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.09.16 03:13:00 -
[565]
Originally by: Elmicker
Originally by: Kaldaine LV and friends 10000 members
you're joking, right?
Yes, they had awesome allies like KOS.
Oh by the way, I'd really liek to see an honest answer the the bob guys post two above me.
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Kaldaine
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.16 04:43:00 -
[566]
Originally by: Elmicker
Originally by: Kaldaine LV and friends 10000 members
you're joking, right?
LV bragged about it on these forums a little over a year ago. They war-decced, failed to help and blamed or ignored every single one of the alliances helping them. ERA, KOS, -V- and several others.
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dastommy79
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.16 05:28:00 -
[567]
Originally by: 7sunami Edited by: 7sunami on 16/09/2007 02:46:06 Why didn't you guys engaged us in ooy, when the numbers were 30vs30? Why didn't you engaged us when it was 60vs60? Why didn't you guys engaged us when it was 120vs120.
If you engaged us much earlier, you wouldn't be coming here and whining about lag, but whining about how you guys got owned on equal numbers.
The fact that you guys waited til you could have a 3:1 ratio over us, is the reason why you guys lost to lag.
I want a free nyx, who in yours guys group do i need to contact. I hear u got "special powers"
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Alice Cholmondeley
I Am Legend
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Posted - 2007.09.16 06:15:00 -
[568]
Originally by: dastommy79
I want a free nyx, who in yours guys group do i need to contact. I hear u got "special powers"
I hear you're already 'special'. |
dastommy79
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.16 06:16:00 -
[569]
Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley
Originally by: dastommy79
I want a free nyx, who in yours guys group do i need to contact. I hear u got "special powers"
I hear you're already 'special'.
I hear your made of suck cause your not allowed to post with your main
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ForumPosterAlt
HERRO KITTY
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Posted - 2007.09.16 06:55:00 -
[570]
Originally by: 7sunami Edited by: 7sunami on 16/09/2007 02:46:06 Why didn't you guys engaged us in ooy, when the numbers were 30vs30? Why didn't you engaged us when it was 60vs60? Why didn't you guys engaged us when it was 120vs120.
If you engaged us much earlier, you wouldn't be coming here and whining about lag, but whining about how you guys got owned on equal numbers.
The fact that you guys waited til you could have a 3:1 ratio over us, is the reason why you guys lost to lag.
Dayum son, I think you just made a fact right there!
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Derrios
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.09.16 07:25:00 -
[571]
seems semi relevant and may contain some language not suitable for children :
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Nova Cygni
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.16 07:54:00 -
[572]
UPDATE:
this thread is still awful, the general eve populace is still less intelligent than a turnip, and fighters are still causing stupid amounts of lag.
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Cyleth
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.16 08:03:00 -
[573]
Originally by: Twoside
Originally by: Cyleth
Originally by: Twoside It took just 1 won battle to bring bob back to their old low level? This thread needs more windy****s and other alts, all this showing face is very disturbing!
Only disturbing thing is you never got over few things by the looks of it.
Thanks for your concern, I'll be fine some day I'm sure. Also, welcome back to CAOD, I must admit I had to giggle when someone thought you were an alt instead of the genuine article :)
I have to agree with you.. That was freaking hilarious. -- Listen to Club BNC on BoB Radio. Visit our website for schedules.
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Erotic Irony
0bsession
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Posted - 2007.09.16 08:12:00 -
[574]
Originally by: Nova Cygni UPDATE:
this thread is still awful, the general eve populace is still less intelligent than a turnip, and fighters are still causing stupid amounts of lag.
there's a pretty good thread going on here
oh hey dark shikari ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
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Alice Cholmondeley
I Am Legend
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Posted - 2007.09.16 08:24:00 -
[575]
Originally by: Nova Cygni UPDATE:
this thread is still awful, the general eve populace is still less intelligent than a turnip, and fighters are still causing stupid amounts of lag.
I'm sure you meant the average goon populace. Don't forget to mention the rivers created from goon tears keep flowing steadily as ever. |
Maximus Maridius
Gallente Navy Special Forces
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Posted - 2007.09.16 08:31:00 -
[576]
Originally by: Nova Cygni UPDATE:
this thread is still awful, the general eve populace is still less intelligent than a turnip, and fighters are still causing stupid amounts of lag.
damn! i forgot that you guys didnt send fleets of noobships into systems to crash the nodes... |
Gabriel Karade
Nulli-Secundus
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Posted - 2007.09.16 09:33:00 -
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why? why?? WHY??...Why in the name of god do you do this to yourselves??
If you've got those sorts of numbers what's stopping you from attacking multiple systems at once? Why cram it all into a single system? Server limitations aside, it's common bloody sense (a.k.a Sun Tzu's 'art of the bleeding obvious') to not engage an enemey at the strongest point...
Oh wait I get it, you're all masochists?... ----------
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Sasha Evergreen
Gallente Sand Castle Generals
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Posted - 2007.09.16 09:43:00 -
[578]
Edited by: Sasha Evergreen on 16/09/2007 09:43:57
Originally by: Gabriel Karade why? why?? WHY??...Why in the name of god do you do this to yourselves??
If you've got those sorts of numbers what's stopping you from attacking multiple systems at once? Why cram it all into a single system? Server limitations aside, it's common bloody sense (a.k.a Sun Tzu's 'art of the bleeding obvious') to not engage an enemey at the strongest point...
Because you don't know how POS mechanics work in this game. That is the dumbest advice I'v heard so far. If there were no supercapitals at all and POS hitpoits were reduced by 75%, then yes, they can achieve this and there would be more fun ping ponging around until an ennemy is exhausted, not dicated by their quantity or wealth.
Dedication and cleverness should be the deciding factors.
Blame CCP for turning it into a boring isk sink stalemate. They are kind of understanding what they've done wrong and I guarantee you they will change some mechanics to benefit everyone.
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HankMurphy
Minmatar Pelennor Swarm R i s e
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Posted - 2007.09.16 10:07:00 -
[579]
Edited by: HankMurphy on 16/09/2007 10:13:22
Originally by: Shinori Edited by: Shinori on 14/09/2007 23:27:35
Originally by: USN CVN72 After Goonswarms reference to the 9-11 attacks a few days ago and with no open apology given from Goons Leadership i hope BOB kicks your ass..
Most goons are north americans and you can be assured they had family, friends and acquaintances lost in the attacks, if they can joke about it, maybe you're the one that needs to lighten up?
ok, so i was reading some forumz ready for bed, and i came across this.
and i'm posting... in a thread about a fight i didn't know about till i opened the forums. (some of us do have jobs) was some good reading material till i came across this crap (and i'm glad i never was witness to the original slander the saviors of eve decided to propagate on OUR (all our) forums)
not an official rise or PLN opinion (thought i hope both would follow suit) but there are some places you just dont go. some things are off limits. some things you dont mention because it only takes on speck of decency to recognize that fact.
"i know a guy that died in wwII" -does that make you privledged to say whatever you want about anything involving wwII regardless of its context or the # of other ppl effected by it?
i speak for a hell of a lot of ppl when i say STFU if i was a mod, i'd delete this crap, but i'm not, so i'm responding you guys want all of eve to hate you? fine, but leave RL out of it
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Citric Acid
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.16 10:32:00 -
[580]
Originally by: HankMurphy Edited by: HankMurphy on 16/09/2007 10:13:22
Originally by: Shinori Edited by: Shinori on 14/09/2007 23:27:35
Originally by: USN CVN72 After Goonswarms reference to the 9-11 attacks a few days ago and with no open apology given from Goons Leadership i hope BOB kicks your ass..
Most goons are north americans and you can be assured they had family, friends and acquaintances lost in the attacks, if they can joke about it, maybe you're the one that needs to lighten up?
ok, so i was reading some forumz ready for bed, and i came across this.
and i'm posting... in a thread about a fight i didn't know about till i opened the forums. (some of us do have jobs) was some good reading material till i came across this crap (and i'm glad i never was witness to the original slander the saviors of eve decided to propagate on OUR (all our) forums)
not an official rise or PLN opinion (thought i hope both would follow suit) but there are some places you just dont go. some things are off limits. some things you dont mention because it only takes on speck of decency to recognize that fact.
"i know a guy that died in wwII" -does that make you privledged to say whatever you want about anything involving wwII regardless of its context or the # of other ppl effected by it?
i speak for a hell of a lot of ppl when i say STFU if i was a mod, i'd delete this crap, but i'm not, so i'm responding you guys want all of eve to hate you? fine, but leave RL out of it
How's your reimbursement program coming along? Oh wait...
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HankMurphy
Minmatar Pelennor Swarm R i s e
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Posted - 2007.09.16 10:40:00 -
[581]
Originally by: Citric Acid
How's your reimbursement program coming along? Oh wait...
um, ok?
Yeah it was a bit of a buzz kill post, and WAY off topic. sry bout that. Your buddy's post needed a response none the less.
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JeanPaul Sartre
26th of July Movement
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Posted - 2007.09.16 10:43:00 -
[582]
Originally by: HankMurphy Edited by: HankMurphy on 16/09/2007 10:13:22
Originally by: Shinori Edited by: Shinori on 14/09/2007 23:27:35
Originally by: USN CVN72 After Goonswarms reference to the 9-11 attacks a few days ago and with no open apology given from Goons Leadership i hope BOB kicks your ass..
Most goons are north americans and you can be assured they had family, friends and acquaintances lost in the attacks, if they can joke about it, maybe you're the one that needs to lighten up?
ok, so i was reading some forumz ready for bed, and i came across this.
and i'm posting... in a thread about a fight i didn't know about till i opened the forums. (some of us do have jobs) was some good reading material till i came across this crap (and i'm glad i never was witness to the original slander the saviors of eve decided to propagate on OUR (all our) forums)
not an official rise or PLN opinion (thought i hope both would follow suit) but there are some places you just dont go. some things are off limits. some things you dont mention because it only takes on speck of decency to recognize that fact.
"i know a guy that died in wwII" -does that make you privledged to say whatever you want about anything involving wwII regardless of its context or the # of other ppl effected by it?
i speak for a hell of a lot of ppl when i say STFU if i was a mod, i'd delete this crap, but i'm not, so i'm responding you guys want all of eve to hate you? fine, but leave RL out of it
An iconic disaster that killed a few thousand people and seems to have gained a mythical, semi-reverent respect from people that really were wholly uneffected by it in Real LifeÖ.
This is how that resurrection *******s got started 2000 years ago.
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Quote: If a victory is told in detail, one can no longer distinguish it from a defeat.
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JeanPaul Sartre
26th of July Movement
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Posted - 2007.09.16 10:44:00 -
[583]
*meh* --
Quote: If a victory is told in detail, one can no longer distinguish it from a defeat.
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HankMurphy
Minmatar Pelennor Swarm R i s e
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Posted - 2007.09.16 10:46:00 -
[584]
Originally by: JeanPaul Sartre
An iconic disaster that killed a few thousand people and seems to have gained a mythical, semi-reverent respect from people that really were wholly uneffected by it in Real LifeÖ.
This is how that resurrection *******s got started 2000 years ago.
/me grabs the wheel and steers the thread off the road and into the woods
and, do tell me about the people that were effected by it? plz, go on i'd love to fkin hear it
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Simon Barrow
Basgerin Hounds
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Posted - 2007.09.16 10:58:00 -
[585]
Edited by: Simon Barrow on 16/09/2007 11:00:49 Edited by: Simon Barrow on 16/09/2007 11:00:22 Edited by: Simon Barrow on 16/09/2007 10:59:34
Originally by: HankMurphy
Originally by: JeanPaul Sartre
An iconic disaster that killed a few thousand people and seems to have gained a mythical, semi-reverent respect from people that really were wholly uneffected by it in Real LifeÖ.
This is how that resurrection *******s got started 2000 years ago.
/me grabs the wheel and steers the thread off the road and into the woods
and, do tell me about the people that were effected by it? plz, go on i'd love to fkin hear it
Mate, in your first post you said something like "if I were a mod I would delete it" well as a person without mod powers you should ignore it and let the tread continue on it's course.
What you are doing now is called "feeding the trolls" and even enters the neighbourhood of being an act of trolling in it self.
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Gabriel Karade
Nulli-Secundus
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Posted - 2007.09.16 11:23:00 -
[586]
Edited by: Gabriel Karade on 16/09/2007 11:24:55
Originally by: Sasha Evergreen Edited by: Sasha Evergreen on 16/09/2007 09:43:57
Originally by: Gabriel Karade why? why?? WHY??...Why in the name of god do you do this to yourselves??
If you've got those sorts of numbers what's stopping you from attacking multiple systems at once? Why cram it all into a single system? Server limitations aside, it's common bloody sense (a.k.a Sun Tzu's 'art of the bleeding obvious') to not engage an enemey at the strongest point...
Because you don't know how POS mechanics work in this game. That is the dumbest advice I'v heard so far. If there were no supercapitals at all and POS hitpoits were reduced by 75%, then yes, they can achieve this and there would be more fun ping ponging around until an ennemy is exhausted, not dicated by their quantity or wealth.
Dedication and cleverness should be the deciding factors.
Blame CCP for turning it into a boring isk sink stalemate. They are kind of understanding what they've done wrong and I guarantee you they will change some mechanics to benefit everyone.
I used to run a trio of large POS in IAC space (including one sovereignty 'deathstar') so don't give me that "you don't know how blah blah works..." nonsense.
People used to do just fine with 100 support and 10 dreadnoughts attacking a POS, If you have three times that why try to cram it all into one system when you can hit three simultaneously?
Sorry but the dumbest thing you can do is try to jump into one system and all die on the same gate, but hey, the general Eve populace isn't known for it's intelligence...
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Erotic Irony
0bsession
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Posted - 2007.09.16 11:24:00 -
[587]
Originally by: HankMurphy Edited by: HankMurphy on 16/09/2007 10:13:22
Originally by: Shinori Edited by: Shinori on 14/09/2007 23:27:35
Originally by: USN CVN72 After Goonswarms reference to the 9-11 attacks a few days ago and with no open apology given from Goons Leadership i hope BOB kicks your ass..
Most goons are north americans and you can be assured they had family, friends and acquaintances lost in the attacks, if they can joke about it, maybe you're the one that needs to lighten up?
ok, so i was reading some forumz ready for bed, and i came across this.
and i'm posting... in a thread about a fight i didn't know about till i opened the forums. (some of us do have jobs) was some good reading material till i came across this crap (and i'm glad i never was witness to the original slander the saviors of eve decided to propagate on OUR (all our) forums)
not an official rise or PLN opinion (thought i hope both would follow suit) but there are some places you just dont go. some things are off limits. some things you dont mention because it only takes on speck of decency to recognize that fact.
"i know a guy that died in wwII" -does that make you privledged to say whatever you want about anything involving wwII regardless of its context or the # of other ppl effected by it?
i speak for a hell of a lot of ppl when i say STFU if i was a mod, i'd delete this crap, but i'm not, so i'm responding you guys want all of eve to hate you? fine, but leave RL out of it
shut up ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
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Erotic Irony
0bsession
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Posted - 2007.09.16 11:29:00 -
[588]
Originally by: Gabriel Karade
Originally by: Sasha Evergreen Edited by: Sasha Evergreen on 16/09/2007 09:43:57
Originally by: Gabriel Karade why? why?? WHY??...Why in the name of god do you do this to yourselves??
If you've got those sorts of numbers what's stopping you from attacking multiple systems at once? Why cram it all into a single system? Server limitations aside, it's common bloody sense (a.k.a Sun Tzu's 'art of the bleeding obvious') to not engage an enemey at the strongest point...
Because you don't know how POS mechanics work in this game. That is the dumbest advice I'v heard so far. If there were no supercapitals at all and POS hitpoits were reduced by 75%, then yes, they can achieve this and there would be more fun ping ponging around until an ennemy is exhausted, not dicated by their quantity or wealth.
Dedication and cleverness should be the deciding factors.
Blame CCP for turning it into a boring isk sink stalemate. They are kind of understanding what they've done wrong and I guarantee you they will change some mechanics to benefit everyone.
I used to run a trio of large POS in IAC space (including one sovereignty 'deathstar') so don't give me that "you don't know how blah blah works..." nonsense.
People used to do just fine with 100 support and 10 dreadnoughts attacking a POS, If you have three times that why try to cram it all into one system when you can hit three simultaneously...
I think intuitively you're right Gabe but staggering the strontium timers coupled with the manual control of pos nos and guns on top of jump bridges and cyno jammers favor the defender more than diverting 300 people into three groups.
I suppose making sure those three were efficiently managed and weren't just gangs of people excluded from some other op would be an issue as well, and ultimately, I think people want to be where they think the killmails are. Ofcourse the caveat as you observed is that the game rapidly degrades into an unplayable, unpredictable state.
It's probably easier and more practical to have spies do what you're describing. ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
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Omega Man
The Geddy Foundation
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Posted - 2007.09.16 11:45:00 -
[589]
Originally by: JeanPaul Sartre *meh*
I knew it had to happen but surprised it happened so soon.
It seems to have only taken some 30 years of being dead to blunt the skills of such a great mind.
I much prefered Critique of Dialectical Reason.
And as for the thread. Maybe nerf Goons and not fighters, Goons are the real lag in Eve.
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Director Stoned
Band of Developers
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Posted - 2007.09.16 11:50:00 -
[590]
is there a point to this thread?
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Megacyte Milo
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Posted - 2007.09.16 16:09:00 -
[591]
Cry, Cry, Cry Failswarm...
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.16 16:22:00 -
[592]
^^^ you failed in putting your corp tags on.
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Muff Joos
Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.16 17:33:00 -
[593]
Originally by: 7sunami Edited by: 7sunami on 16/09/2007 02:46:06 Why didn't you guys engaged us in ooy, when the numbers were 30vs30? Why didn't you engaged us when it was 60vs60? Why didn't you guys engaged us when it was 120vs120.
If you engaged us much earlier, you wouldn't be coming here and whining about lag, but whining about how you guys got owned on equal numbers.
The fact that you guys waited til you could have a 3:1 ratio over us, is the reason why you guys lost to lag.
Dear lord, this is a silly person. So by your logic Redswarm Federation should never bring more ships than the enemy has on the field. Your fly with honor(honour) my friend, god I admire you!
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queen1121
Empire Dreams
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Posted - 2007.09.16 17:48:00 -
[594]
Originally by: Muff Joos Edited by: Muff Joos on 16/09/2007 17:37:34
Originally by: 7sunami Edited by: 7sunami on 16/09/2007 02:46:06 Why didn't you guys engaged us in ooy, when the numbers were 30vs30? Why didn't you engaged us when it was 60vs60? Why didn't you guys engaged us when it was 120vs120.
If you engaged us much earlier, you wouldn't be coming here and whining about lag, but whining about how you guys got owned on equal numbers.
The fact that you guys waited til you could have a 3:1 ratio over us, is the reason why you guys lost to lag.
Dear lord, this is a silly person. So by your logic Redswarm Federation should never bring more ships than the enemy has on the field. You fly with honor(honour) my friend, god I admire you!
It's goons complaining about lag, right? Then try not to lag yourself.
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Muff Joos
Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.16 17:58:00 -
[595]
It's goons complaining about lag, right? Then try not to lag yourself.
Oh come on. Everyone is complaining about lag. At the end of every battle report there is always the obligatory "lag was managable/not manageable" addendum no matter what the fleets sizes or sides involved. That is a sure sign of a big problem. But what does your comment have to do with what I said anyway?
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Xrensa
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.16 18:25:00 -
[596]
Just posting to say I'm the proud father of an epic thread.
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Wim'sei
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.16 18:57:00 -
[597]
Originally by: Xrensa Just posting to say I'm the proud father of an epic thread.
What's so epic? All I see is the first post followed by this one.
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alpheon
Caldari Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.17 01:40:00 -
[598]
The original Post : http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=595360&page=18#531 Somethin ELSE this forum is missing...
Originally by: Ztrain Edited by: Ztrain on 15/09/2007 21:50:34 Edited by: Ztrain on 15/09/2007 21:50:34 The problem is not in the drone code. The drones will significantly eat up your computers resources and cause video lag. ... snip ...
I have Something of a Small God as a computer, and well, this I'll argue with, but its hard to prove, since I was stuck in R97 after GF jumped to 0OYZ and wasn't even able to get past a black screen.... might have been all those drones inside the station or something... who knows...
Quote:
...snip... Back in ASCN this is why we used to have to have ships by race jump through the gates because the nodes would crash if everyone jumped at once..
Ooo, thanks for the tactics...
Quote: Well the nodes are not seemingly caped around 40 node to node transactions at a time and will not allow more then that. r97 continued to drop as people jumped but they were not handed off to the 0oyz system until much much later.
Is there some official documentation on this I didn't know about? honest question.
Quote: Goons are now calling for nurfs or fixes to drones. Look at the Rev 3 notes. Their being reinvisioned and supposedly code fixed. But tbh like I've said before the drones aren't the issue. Even if we didn't have the drones there probably wouldn't have been the capital ship kills or would have taken longer to kill them but the lag would have been the same regardless.
Drones, or what ever the problem is, Goons (and me) are asking for CCP to do SOMETHING about it. They've architected a game that makes it a matter of sheer numbers to win. Except for that DoomsDay crap, to win at eve, you need more ships then your opponent has to win. Thats generally the nature of war fare, but the tactics of the game require that in the end. Currently the servers can not handle the load that they're own success has created.
Quote: The only fix is to get competent developers that design a better more efficient architecture and or reduce the amount of people in fleet fights. But knowing that over the past few months Goons have proven that they can only be effective with 3:1 or more I just don't see that happening. Funny how when we put 300 ships in a system the max they can get in is 400 to reach the cap and that would only be a 1.3:1 engagement. The result are, well they speak for themselves.
Obviously, yes. CCP needs to fix the problem, but seriously, complaining that theres 300 goons who want to shoot you is just whining. Of course we're going to bring 300 ships. Its how you win all things being equal. Congrats on being the biggest target in space, and doing a good job of proving your not invulnerable.
Quote: Dr. Ztrain or: How I Learned to Stop Mining and Love the Desync
Be more positive, encourage change, stop accepting the problems. Lets go CCP, less lag wins, more fleet fights for fair wins.
No matter what, I'd prefer that I lose in a fair lag-free fight, then win by lagging out the enemy.
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Ramblin Man
Empyreum
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Posted - 2007.09.17 02:43:00 -
[599]
1 Person = 1 Ship in Combat = 1 Ship's Worth of Calculations 1 Person = 1 Ship + X Drones in Combat = 1+X Ships' Worth of Calculations
If lag begins at Y people fighting, then Y/1 is going to require more people than Y/(1+X). No problem if drones get smartbombed quickly, but fighters don't.
Is the drone problem really more complicated than that?
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Torshin
Prophets Of a Damned Universe Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.09.17 04:18:00 -
[600]
Originally by: alpheon a bunch of stuff.
tbh people might accept the Goons petition if they had created developement forum threads and requested that LV get their titan back when they flooded the system with more pilots then the node could hold. The only reason they want fighters fixxed is because its a tactic that they can not currently beat. Whether is fair or not is irrelevant because NO ONE cares if its fair or not if its working in their favor. -------------------------------------------
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1CE WIND
Minmatar Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.17 06:12:00 -
[601]
Edited by: 1CE WIND on 17/09/2007 06:12:30
Originally by: Vile rat I apologize to any person who joined the game based off of that shacknews article. The game is not playable. The game hasn't been playable for the past year. The game is so horribly broken that I'm stunned that we all still pay money for this pile of crap and I'm embarrassed that my name is now associated with this.
thought youd be more ashamed of being a sleeper spy piece of crap type person then that (aka shinra).
do agree the game has been borked for the last 12 months, roll back eve to cruisers :)
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Citric Acid
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.17 06:27:00 -
[602]
Originally by: Torshin
Originally by: alpheon a bunch of stuff.
tbh people might accept the Goons petition if they had created developement forum threads and requested that LV get their titan back when they flooded the system with more pilots then the node could hold. The only reason they want fighters fixxed is because its a tactic that they can not currently beat. Whether is fair or not is irrelevant because NO ONE cares if its fair or not if its working in their favor.
B-B-B-BITTER
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.17 08:09:00 -
[603]
Originally by: Xrensa Just posting to say I'm the proud father of an epic thread.
And we all love you for it :D
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Le Cardinal
ECP Rogues The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2007.09.17 10:09:00 -
[604]
Originally by: Hellspawn666
Originally by: Vile rat I apologize to any person who joined the game based off of that shacknews article. The game is not playable. The game hasn't been playable for the past year. The game is so horribly broken that I'm stunned that we all still pay money for this pile of crap and I'm embarrassed that my name is now associated with this.
Clearly you have no idea what the game was like before, the servers have massivly increased in performance comparied with 3 years ago when anything more then 40 would lag.
Wrong, i was in fleetbattles with 300+ in local 3 years ago. Fleetbattles worked fairly ok. However, there were about 10-15k players back then on primetime and not 35k as it is today.
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LoganFire
Quam Singulari M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.09.17 10:11:00 -
[605]
The laggers got lagged enjoy it Goons cos more is on the way
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Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.17 10:23:00 -
[606]
Originally by: 1CE WIND
thought youd be more ashamed of being a sleeper spy piece of crap type person then that (aka shinra).
do agree the game has been borked for the last 12 months, roll back eve to cruisers :)
Eliminate anything but small towers, remove sovereignty, and this game would suddenly become really really fun for most 0.0 alliances. I'd probably add a lot more npc 0.0 if I had the controls as well. Oh god just flying through space without POS warfare would be pure bliss.
Vote Vile rat for CCP CEO in '08. He'll get things done.
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NOObbody
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.09.17 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: LoganFire The laggers got lagged enjoy it Goons cos more is on the way
Anyone else still remember mpires whinestorm, when half their capfleet got killed after a nodecrash? --- I was sworn to absolute secrecy! |
Space Harrier
Minmatar Roman Holiday
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Posted - 2007.09.17 10:30:00 -
[608]
I am amused by the amount of whine on display by Goonswarm because it's their turn to lose a few battles through lag.
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Space Harrier
Minmatar Roman Holiday
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Posted - 2007.09.17 10:32:00 -
[609]
Originally by: NOObbody
Originally by: LoganFire The laggers got lagged enjoy it Goons cos more is on the way
Anyone else still remember mpires whinestorm, when half their capfleet got killed after a nodecrash?
No |
Miss KillSome
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.09.17 10:41:00 -
[610]
Originally by: Nlewis
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Vile rat I apologize to any person who joined the game based off of that shacknews article. The game is not playable. The game hasn't been playable for the past year. The game is so horribly broken that I'm stunned that we all still pay money for this pile of crap and I'm embarrassed that my name is now associated with this.
How amusing, when the lag works in your favour (hi hi jv1v) it's "game mechanics" and "hey, it's not our fault we've got friends".
But when you get owned in the face the game is unplayable and you're suddenly "embarrassed"?
tbf, after the showing from GF tonight I'd be pretty damned embarrassed too. Unlucky.
DON'T YOU SEE!?!?!?!?! OUR LAGSPLOITS HAVE FAILED US
according to this: http://www.killboard.net/fleetbattle/665/ ,yeah, u wanted to crash the node again, coz u know that jumpins have higher priority then logins..
Like in JV1V..
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jeffb
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2007.09.17 11:06:00 -
[611]
Originally by: Miss KillSome according to this: http://www.killboard.net/fleetbattle/665/ ,yeah, u wanted to crash the node again, coz u know that jumpins have higher priority then logins..
Like in JV1V..
Check the timestamps genius.
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queen1121
Empire Dreams
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Posted - 2007.09.17 11:19:00 -
[612]
Originally by: jeffb
Originally by: Miss KillSome according to this: http://www.killboard.net/fleetbattle/665/ ,yeah, u wanted to crash the node again, coz u know that jumpins have higher priority then logins..
Like in JV1V..
Check the timestamps genius.
What has timestamp to do with it?
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Porks
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.17 11:32:00 -
[613]
Originally by: queen1121 What has timestamp to do with it?
http://www.killboard.net/fleetbattle/664/kills/ Fleet battle #664 Friday 14 September 2007 18:21 (7920 seconds) in 0OYZ-G (Feythabolis)
^^^ the one with the capital kills
http://www.killboard.net/fleetbattle/665/kills/ Fleet battle #665 Saturday 15 September 2007 00:06 (1680 seconds) in 0OYZ-G (Feythabolis)
^^^ the one you linked
See how there's nearly 6 hours between them?
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LordInvisible
Gallente The Coalition Of Buccaneers Mercenary Services
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Posted - 2007.09.17 11:36:00 -
[614]
Originally by: Porks
Originally by: queen1121 What has timestamp to do with it?
http://www.killboard.net/fleetbattle/664/kills/ Fleet battle #664 Friday 14 September 2007 18:21 (7920 seconds) in 0OYZ-G (Feythabolis)
^^^ the one with the capital kills
http://www.killboard.net/fleetbattle/665/kills/ Fleet battle #665 Saturday 15 September 2007 00:06 (1680 seconds) in 0OYZ-G (Feythabolis)
^^^ the one you linked
See how there's nearly 6 hours between them?
its not about only that engagement from capitals, its whole style u goons try to pull out..
who brings 20 noobships to a battlefield when he can bring anything larger to fight? For what does he bring 20 noob ship if not for making lag worse?
And i'm sure that u have some lag making ships in first engagement too, just didnt manage to jump through..
JV1V..only u got pwned this time.. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Porks
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.17 11:42:00 -
[615]
Originally by: LordInvisible its not about only that engagement from capitals, its whole style u goons try to pull out..
if only your father had done so
Quote: who brings 20 noobships to a battlefield when he can bring anything larger to fight? For what does he bring 20 noob ship if not for making lag worse?
I have no idea, maybe for fun? Hell it'd be quite an awesome fight if you managed to tackle a solo battleship with 20 trainee frigates, and it's not like anything important was happening at the time.
Quote: And i'm sure that u have some lag making ships in first engagement too, just didnt manage to jump through..
Yeah, they were called carriers.
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Vital Efters
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.17 11:52:00 -
[616]
Originally by: LordInvisible
Originally by: Porks
Originally by: queen1121 What has timestamp to do with it?
http://www.killboard.net/fleetbattle/664/kills/ Fleet battle #664 Friday 14 September 2007 18:21 (7920 seconds) in 0OYZ-G (Feythabolis)
^^^ the one with the capital kills
http://www.killboard.net/fleetbattle/665/kills/ Fleet battle #665 Saturday 15 September 2007 00:06 (1680 seconds) in 0OYZ-G (Feythabolis)
^^^ the one you linked
See how there's nearly 6 hours between them?
its not about only that engagement from capitals, its whole style u goons try to pull out..
who brings 20 noobships to a battlefield when he can bring anything larger to fight? For what does he bring 20 noob ship if not for making lag worse?
And i'm sure that u have some lag making ships in first engagement too, just didnt manage to jump through..
JV1V..only u got pwned this time..
We should really leave our newer pilots back in station, they don't deserve to be in 0.0 anyway, right?
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Vital Efters
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.17 12:02:00 -
[617]
/me makes a post
*leans back* That'll show em'
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.17 12:04:00 -
[618]
Originally by: Vital Efters
We should really leave our newer pilots back in station, they don't deserve to be in 0.0 anyway, right?
New pilot is one thing. Chars with 800k SP flying t1 when needed, on account older then a year is different thing me, myself and I ------> |
Porks
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.17 12:26:00 -
[619]
Originally by: Space Harrier /me holds out a bucket to collect the GoonTears raining down from above...
Porks' tears alone filled half a bucket already.
man talk about owned
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Khorian
Gallente Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.09.17 12:31:00 -
[620]
Weird, the goons know that many pilots in one system cause lag. Yet they let people in Newb Ships tag along. That way they shoot themselves in the leg. The place that is taken up by the useless newb ships could have been usefull expirienced pilots. Yes, I would say you better tell your 1 month newbs to stay the **** away from serious business internet spaceship battles. It migth be funny if you do a newb ship roaming gang, but you know full well that bringing them to a Lag Fest does nothing more than add more lag. They are useless.
In return, the operation failed, so the goons complain about lag, too many fighters, ****ty servers, but not about bringing useless pilots with newb ships to the fight.
Now, that they are in the poor victims role again, they can complain openly to CCP about how unplayable EvE is, how Carriers with fighters deployed are like cheating, and because of the 5000 voices in their alliance they will write a new letter with the goal to get Cyno Jammers nerfed, Carriers nerfed etc so they can continue to fight BoB.
No word was lost how both sides of the fight build up their forces. It started with 50 people in both systems, went up to 100, then 150, then 200. Not once did the Coalition try to engage before both sides reached unplayable amount of pilots.
No, again it was BoB who jumped into R97 prior to the huge engagement, when it was 30vs30 to get a fight.
The coalition just waited till they had the numerical advantage as usual. They waited too long and lost the fight. Numbers in 0oy and r97 climbed similar so there could have been fair fights with less than 100 one each side.
The only conclusion I can draw here is that the coalition knew well that it would result in a lag fest. They speculated they might pull another JV1V, where the node crashed and the coalition, through numerical advantage of about 3:1, managed to get more people back in the system right after the crash, literally pushing the defenders out of the game.
Well, it was a possibility, but the node held. Had they succeeded they would probably be laughing at the Alliance right now, just like after JV1V.
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Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.17 12:38:00 -
[621]
The greatest falacy in all of this is that you poor fools think that Goonswarm or any entity attached to it like lag, have ever liked lag and seek to cause lag.
I won't go into any argument about fighters because I think that should be left to CCP to decide and nobody else. Politicising a genuine concern about the game you profess to like is tawdry at best.
The concern over fighters happened before 0oyz and the arguments and spin that have occurred since then are simply disengenuous.
Most of us just want to play the game, even if they are "useless" in t1 frigates and I think everyone at least deserves that much.
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thoth foc
Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2007.09.17 13:10:00 -
[622]
Originally by: Nekumi The greatest falacy in all of this is that you poor fools think that Goonswarm or any entity attached to it like lag, have ever liked lag and seek to cause lag.
Most of us just want to play the game, even if they are "useless" in t1 frigates and I think everyone at least deserves that much.
Your members may not like or seek lag, but large fleets are most common cause of lag.
Your leadership has planned on many occasions to run ops with numbers that will cause lag.
While they may not directly seek the lag, they directly seek the main cause of the lag. This entire thread is based on Bob + allies fielding numbers still under the combined numbers that ragoons fed + allies have fielded, which regularly caused me worse lag than i experienced in 0oy. _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) ATUK (.5.) DICE (BOB) Elcyion Lacar
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Space Harrier
Minmatar Roman Holiday
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Posted - 2007.09.17 13:30:00 -
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thoth foc, don't beat about the bush here, you are too polite.
Goons have indeed sought to induce lag, and in the past have built their entire strategy around the problems it creates.
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Barthezz
Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.17 13:51:00 -
[624]
Wait some of you are blaming goon for bringing noob ships to a system that was going to crash/lag out anyways? I'm guessing you just wanted some more 'quality kills'?
Its not like if the people in those noob ships could actually have done anything if they where in, uh, battleships...
Stop blaming each other and start blaming the real issue at hand and thats the state of the servers. Goons bring this, BoB brings that, its getting tiresome. The issue isnt who brings what, its the fact that a fight of this size gets focused on one system. Nothing is going to change the fact that both sides will bring whatever they can to defend/attack it.
CCP either needs to support a system with 500+ on each side fighting it out OR they need to figure out a true way to split up the blob OR need to figure out how to make said blob less effective then a smaller group of ships.
However either turn out, the issue isnt any alliance, the issue is the bloody servers and the way pos-warfare works at this moment.
But no lets fight amongst ourselves about something we cant fix. ---
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Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.17 14:04:00 -
[625]
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Nekumi The greatest falacy in all of this is that you poor fools think that Goonswarm or any entity attached to it like lag, have ever liked lag and seek to cause lag.
Most of us just want to play the game, even if they are "useless" in t1 frigates and I think everyone at least deserves that much.
Your members may not like or seek lag, but large fleets are most common cause of lag.
Your leadership has planned on many occasions to run ops with numbers that will cause lag.
While they may not directly seek the lag, they directly seek the main cause of the lag. This entire thread is based on Bob + allies fielding numbers still under the combined numbers that ragoons fed + allies have fielded, which regularly caused me worse lag than i experienced in 0oy.
So what you're saying is that people shouldn't have large fleets and that would solve the problem. Frankly I find that ********.
As for the implication once again that Goonswarm, leadership or otherwise seek to cause lag at any stage is unfounded and baseless, just like it was when people said we where using bookmark bombs and other miscellaneous tripe from the very beginnings of goonfleet. If it was true we would no doubt have seen it plastered all over these very forums.
Lag is a problem for everyone, regardless of size and the way the game is framed at the moment especially with regard to sovereignty, large fleets are unavoidable. Wanting to see some of the reasonable issues looked at with regard to lag will make this game better for everyone involved. Saying people shouldn't play past a certain number simply isn't a solution.
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Space Harrier
Minmatar Roman Holiday
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Posted - 2007.09.17 14:07:00 -
[626]
Originally by: Nekumi As for the implication once again that Goonswarm, leadership or otherwise seek to cause lag at any stage is unfounded and baseless.
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Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.17 14:09:00 -
[627]
Originally by: Space Harrier thoth foc, don't beat about the bush here, you are too polite.
Goons have indeed sought to induce lag, and in the past have built their entire strategy around the problems it creates.
And yet when they are on the receiving end, the game somehow needs to be changed.
Do you read your posts or just type stuff and hope you sound as tough as you think you sound in your head?
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Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.17 14:11:00 -
[628]
Originally by: Space Harrier
Originally by: Nekumi As for the implication once again that Goonswarm, leadership or otherwise seek to cause lag at any stage is unfounded and baseless.
You are joking right?
I believe the old adage best to respond to this is, Proof or STFU.
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thoth foc
Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2007.09.17 14:12:00 -
[629]
Originally by: Barthezz Wait some of you are blaming goon for bringing noob ships to a system that was going to crash/lag out anyways? I'm guessing you just wanted some more 'quality kills'?
Its not like if the people in those noob ships could actually have done anything if they where in, uh, battleships...
Stop blaming each other and start blaming the real issue at hand and thats the state of the servers. Goons bring this, BoB brings that, its getting tiresome. The issue isnt who brings what, its the fact that a fight of this size gets focused on one system. Nothing is going to change the fact that both sides will bring whatever they can to defend/attack it.
CCP either needs to support a system with 500+ on each side fighting it out OR they need to figure out a true way to split up the blob OR need to figure out how to make said blob less effective then a smaller group of ships.
However either turn out, the issue isnt any alliance, the issue is the bloody servers and the way pos-warfare works at this moment.
But no lets fight amongst ourselves about something we cant fix.
I totally agree with this.
Unfortunately, methods to reduce blobbing tend to be massively unpopular. To make a smaller group more effective than a larger group, something will be considered "overpowered", because largely, more ppl expect to win.
The perfect example of this is the pre-nerfed titan. No one could afford to lag their own pilots out, as this would mean losing your own fleet. This is no longer likely, and consequently, the lag in fights has rocketed. _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) ATUK (.5.) DICE (BOB) Elcyion Lacar
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Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.17 14:14:00 -
[630]
Originally by: Barthezz Wait some of you are blaming goon for bringing noob ships to a system that was going to crash/lag out anyways? I'm guessing you just wanted some more 'quality kills'?
Its not like if the people in those noob ships could actually have done anything if they where in, uh, battleships...
Let me clear this up a bit. The noob ship/frigate op was several hours after the failed 0oyz assault and was just a goof off op in order to have fun.
From what I understand most people involved in that second "op" had fun.
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Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.17 14:22:00 -
[631]
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Barthezz Wait some of you are blaming goon for bringing noob ships to a system that was going to crash/lag out anyways? I'm guessing you just wanted some more 'quality kills'?
Its not like if the people in those noob ships could actually have done anything if they where in, uh, battleships...
Stop blaming each other and start blaming the real issue at hand and thats the state of the servers. Goons bring this, BoB brings that, its getting tiresome. The issue isnt who brings what, its the fact that a fight of this size gets focused on one system. Nothing is going to change the fact that both sides will bring whatever they can to defend/attack it.
CCP either needs to support a system with 500+ on each side fighting it out OR they need to figure out a true way to split up the blob OR need to figure out how to make said blob less effective then a smaller group of ships.
However either turn out, the issue isnt any alliance, the issue is the bloody servers and the way pos-warfare works at this moment.
But no lets fight amongst ourselves about something we cant fix.
I totally agree with this.
Unfortunately, methods to reduce blobbing tend to be massively unpopular. To make a smaller group more effective than a larger group, something will be considered "overpowered", because largely, more ppl expect to win.
The perfect example of this is the pre-nerfed titan. No one could afford to lag their own pilots out, as this would mean losing your own fleet. This is no longer likely, and consequently, the lag in fights has rocketed.
All we're arguing about is the best way to implement less lag. Your solution is as you suggested completely unworkable and not because people would whine about it.
The reason I believe people whine about reducing numbers is mainly because unless you introduce some hard cap on the actual players allowed into a system (which is clearly abusable) there is no way to stop people grouping up. If you make one or two ship types so powerful that they can do what it takes a normal fleet to do you will just have people grouping these up.
The titan nerf wasn't called for because of this and it is disengenuous of you to even implicate that. It was called because the ship was virtually unkillable by in game methods unless it was piloted by a moron.
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DirtySnipe
Convergent Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.09.17 14:24:00 -
[632]
Edited by: DirtySnipe on 17/09/2007 14:25:45
Quote:
this is the closest recipe i can find to what I made. cept only used a single breast, and diddnt cut it. also, used no broccoli or garlic, and added basil and a touch of sea salt.
2 whole chicken *******, skinned, boned & cut into bite-size pieces 1/2 c. peanut butter 1/2 c. water 2 tbsp. soy sauce 1 tbsp. brown sugar 2 tbsp. peanut or vegetable oil 2 or 3 cloves garlic, minced 1/2 tsp. crushed red pepper 3 to 4 c. sliced broccoli or spinach
In a small bowl, blend peanut butter, water, soy sauce and sugar; set aside. In a wok or large skillet, heat oil over high heat. Add garlic and pepper; stir-fry 30 seconds. Add chicken, stir-fry until firm and white, about 5 minutes. Add broccoli or spinach, stir-fry until bright green, about 3 minutes. Stir in peanut butter mixture. Cook, stirring constantly until sauce is smooth, about 3 minutes. Serves 4.
I have to ask..?? What are c "1/2c.water" ??? Cup? if so what size.?
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Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.17 14:26:00 -
[633]
A cup is a unit of measurement. They don't make different sizes of cups, it's just a "cup".
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DirtySnipe
Convergent Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.09.17 14:34:00 -
[634]
super thanks... the most inportant part of this thread... :)
I to have lost ships to lagg, the killer, nothing you can do but accept it and fight again the next time... :)
anyway off to cook... thanks for help
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thoth foc
Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2007.09.17 14:37:00 -
[635]
Originally by: Nekumi
All we're arguing about is the best way to implement less lag. Your solution is as you suggested completely unworkable and not because people would whine about it.
Which solution did i suggest? and do you want to explain how it is unworkable, rather than forwarding your opinion as some sort of fact?
Originally by: Nekumi
The reason I believe people whine about reducing numbers is mainly because unless you introduce some hard cap on the actual players allowed into a system (which is clearly abusable) there is no way to stop people grouping up. If you make one or two ship types so powerful that they can do what it takes a normal fleet to do you will just have people grouping these up.
The titan nerf wasn't called for because of this and it is disengenuous of you to even implicate that. It was called because the ship was virtually unkillable by in game methods unless it was piloted by a moron.
I wont try to guess for which reasons CCP decided to nerf the titan, as this isnt a debate about titans, i'm not really bothered if you agree the example is possible or not. Some ppl will believe it would have been possible to remotely DD a lagged out fleet, if you dont i'm sure you have good reasons why it wouldnt be possible. _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) ATUK (.5.) DICE (BOB) Elcyion Lacar
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Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.17 14:43:00 -
[636]
Edited by: Nekumi on 17/09/2007 14:44:33 Edited by: Nekumi on 17/09/2007 14:43:43
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Nekumi
All we're arguing about is the best way to implement less lag. Your solution is as you suggested completely unworkable and not because people would whine about it.
Which solution did i suggest? and do you want to explain how it is unworkable, rather than forwarding your opinion as some sort of fact?
Your suggestion that reducing the number of pilots by introducing a powerful ship capable of working in smaller gangs to achieve the same results currently required is unworkable simply because you can't force people to play in smaller groups and if you do it leaves the game open to even more rampant abuse, for example clogging a system with enough people to prevent anyone else coming in. If you can't see that, I can't help you out here.
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Nekumi
The reason I believe people whine about reducing numbers is mainly because unless you introduce some hard cap on the actual players allowed into a system (which is clearly abusable) there is no way to stop people grouping up. If you make one or two ship types so powerful that they can do what it takes a normal fleet to do you will just have people grouping these up.
The titan nerf wasn't called for because of this and it is disengenuous of you to even implicate that. It was called because the ship was virtually unkillable by in game methods unless it was piloted by a moron.
I wont try to guess for which reasons CCP decided to nerf the titan, as this isnt a debate about titans, i'm not really bothered if you agree the example is possible or not. Some ppl will believe it would have been possible to remotely DD a lagged out fleet, if you dont i'm sure you have good reasons why it wouldnt be possible.
I'm not arguing about titans either, you brought it up and I corrected something I felt you said was wrong.
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Kaldaine
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.17 14:44:00 -
[637]
Originally by: Nekumi
Originally by: Space Harrier
Originally by: Nekumi As for the implication once again that Goonswarm, leadership or otherwise seek to cause lag at any stage is unfounded and baseless.
You are joking right?
I believe the old adage best to respond to this is, Proof or STFU.
They have none. BoBs killboard alone can graph the type of ships killed shown over a year among other fancy things. If anyone actually had proof of Goonswarm bookmark bombing or extremely high numbers of rookie ship or shuttle kills from bringing them to fights they would have already posted it. Of course a well thought out post in caod backed by logic and statistics from your enemies killboard is easily defeated by "lol u dum dum goonie lag is all ur fault u created it hur hur hypocrite serious business how about those warbonds" from any of the thousand alts around.
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Orangir
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.17 14:49:00 -
[638]
Originally by: thoth foc I totally agree with this.
Unfortunately, methods to reduce blobbing tend to be massively unpopular. To make a smaller group more effective than a larger group, something will be considered "overpowered", because largely, more ppl expect to win.
The perfect example of this is the pre-nerfed titan. No one could afford to lag their own pilots out, as this would mean losing your own fleet. This is no longer likely, and consequently, the lag in fights has rocketed.
Well the only thing that has changed about the titan is that it's actually killable now. Doomsdaying a fleet is still an effective way to remove a large chunk of your enemy's forces from the field quickly and it is still a very usable tactic as Orange Species showed by doomsdaying a large portion of a fleet we sent to assist IAC. Titans don't discourage blobbing anyway, they encourage it even more by putting a single high-value target onto the field.
The solution isn't to remove blobbing anyway. CCP is running a single-shard game and are investing all of their hardware money into one logical server. The fact that the game can even run when 800 people are in one system, running on a single CPU is a testament to how good the hardware they're using is. Now what needs to catch up is the code. You simply can't run a game of this size on Python, it's something that you need to move to C++ to do. I understand why the original decision was made to code in Python but in the long run CCP is only going to suffer unless they greatly optimize the code or spend the (admittedly massive amount of) time to move the game to C++.
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Space Harrier
Minmatar Roman Holiday
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Posted - 2007.09.17 14:53:00 -
[639]
I'll have a root about & dig out posts / chatlogs the time of the great siege of JV1V against Lotka Volterra - where your entire strategy (combined with RA / TCF / CA / PL was about collapsing the JV1V node - which you subsequently achieved.
LV lost a titan in production (aborted fetus as you nicely put it at the time remember?) and shortly after that dismal display on your part crumpled and sought to enjoy the game elsewhere.
Goon tactic that month was all about griefing (I have the remedial .mp3) and creating a situation of utter unplayability - mostly through lag creation while the people with the actual firepower (RA / TCF) did most the work for you.
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thoth foc
Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2007.09.17 15:05:00 -
[640]
Edited by: thoth foc on 17/09/2007 15:10:38
Originally by: Nekumi
Your suggestion that reducing the number of pilots by introducing a powerful ship capable of working in smaller gangs to achieve the same results currently required is unworkable simply because you can't force people to play in smaller groups and if you do it leaves the game open to even more rampant abuse, for example clogging a system with enough people to prevent anyone else coming in. If you can't see that, I can't help you out here.
I didnt request your help
Design is only limited by the designer imagination. The hard limit like your example seems to suggest would be bad and rather "unsubtle", so i agree your example is unworkable. Limiting the idea to such a poor example is lets say disengenuous?
Originally by: Nekumi I'm not arguing about titans either, you brought it up and I corrected something I felt you said was wrong.
I mentioned the ability that is contained, and a likely effect. I'm sure not everyone had considered this, but i expect your FC's certainly had. Unless you can prove it was inaccurate, then correcting it will be impossible.
Edit
@Orangir i have no interest into getting into a debate about titans.. i am/have referred to a specific aspect of the ship which was an example of a particular game design consideration.. I referred to the ship to make it simpler for ppl to understand the abstract concept. _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) ATUK (.5.) DICE (BOB) Elcyion Lacar
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Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.17 15:16:00 -
[641]
Originally by: thoth foc Edited by: thoth foc on 17/09/2007 15:10:38
Originally by: Nekumi
Your suggestion that reducing the number of pilots by introducing a powerful ship capable of working in smaller gangs to achieve the same results currently required is unworkable simply because you can't force people to play in smaller groups and if you do it leaves the game open to even more rampant abuse, for example clogging a system with enough people to prevent anyone else coming in. If you can't see that, I can't help you out here.
I didnt request your help
Design is only limited by the designer imagination. The hard limit like your example seems to suggest would be bad and rather "unsubtle", so i agree your example is unworkable. Limiting the idea to such a poor example is lets say disengenuous?
Originally by: Nekumi I'm not arguing about titans either, you brought it up and I corrected something I felt you said was wrong.
I mentioned the ability that is contained, and a likely effect. I'm sure not everyone had considered this, but i expect your FC's certainly had. Unless you can prove it was inaccurate, then correcting it will be impossible.
Edit
@Orangir i have no interest into getting into a debate about titans.. i am/have referred to a specific aspect of the ship which was an example of a particular game design consideration.. I referred to the ship to make it simpler for ppl to understand the abstract concept.
I agree with you but at least we aren't trying to make this out as some spin attempt in order to further propaganda for either side. We are discussing this in what I hope is a rational manner with very little trolling.
Nobody should want lag. It messes the game up for everyone and I would be happy to see you put forth your ideas somewhere that might bring them to the attention of the developers and if they are good ones then I'll be the first to give you props for putting them down and getting them put into the game. We need more people like Sarmaul or Bane Glorious in this game and less people spinning it for some imagined political goal that serves nobody's real interest in the long term.
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KIATolon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.17 15:24:00 -
[642]
Originally by: Space Harrier I'll have a root about & dig out posts / chatlogs the time of the great siege of JV1V against Lotka Volterra - where your entire strategy (combined with RA / TCF / CA / PL was about collapsing the JV1V node - which you subsequently achieved.
LV lost a titan in production (aborted fetus as you nicely put it at the time remember?) and shortly after that dismal display on your part crumpled and sought to enjoy the game elsewhere.
Goon tactic that month was all about griefing (I have the remedial .mp3) and creating a situation of utter unplayability - mostly through lag creation while the people with the actual firepower (RA / TCF) did most the work for you.
I led part of that op. I ordered half our fleet to stay offline once the node had gone down (as has already been stated but you've chosen to ignore).
I am sure you can ask the TS spy you got your MP3 from, to verify ;)
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Johnny ReeRee
The ReeRee Brigade
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Posted - 2007.09.17 15:30:00 -
[643]
Originally by: Nekumi
Nobody should want lag. It messes the game up for everyone and I would be happy to see you put forth your ideas somewhere that might bring them to the attention of the developers and if they are good ones then I'll be the first to give you props for putting them down and getting them put into the game. We need more people like Sarmaul or Bane Glorious in this game and less people spinning it for some imagined political goal that serves nobody's real interest in the long term.
What an odd suggestion. It's almost as if you think game performance improvements should come as a result of polling the user-base for suggestions. The goonies have suggested nerfing carriers, so therefore it's incumbent on others to define ways to reduce lag?
I hate to be the one to break it to you, but the game designers are the only people who are actually in a position to figure out where the areas of best improvement lie, and how to implement the appropriate changes. Hundreds of goonies regurgitating some talking point from goonfleet.com about fighter clouds and lag contribute exactly ZERO rationality to the discussion, despite all your pretensions here.
But it is pretty awesome to see dozens of goonies and hundreds of goonie posts crying about lag. So much for the 'interweb spaceships lawlz we don't care more than you don't care!' schtick. I revisited the JV1V thread, and boy were the goonies singing a different song then! Now why would that be?
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Kaldaine
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.17 15:32:00 -
[644]
Originally by: Space Harrier I'll have a root about & dig out posts / chatlogs the time of the great siege of JV1V against Lotka Volterra - where your entire strategy (combined with RA / TCF / CA / PL was about collapsing the JV1V node - which you subsequently achieved.
LV lost a titan in production (aborted fetus as you nicely put it at the time remember?) and shortly after that dismal display on your part crumpled and sought to enjoy the game elsewhere.
Goon tactic that month was all about griefing (I have the remedial .mp3) and creating a situation of utter unplayability - mostly through lag creation while the people with the actual firepower (RA / TCF) did most the work for you.
Im pretty sure you can grab quotes and posts from these forums and ingame and represent them however you wish to. We had to kill it to stay alive as much as LV had to defend it. The same scenario was repeated in F-T when there was thought to be a titan there only with the fight going the other way. Im not sure what you want, I would have expected LV to bring everything they had in such a situation just as much as we did and in such a situation the servers would not handle it. If the places were reversed, I do not see BoB stopping for "honours sake".
Goonswarm isnt here because we want you or anyone else to like us. We have our allies and they are the best around. We do want to grief BoB and friends out of this game and give them no enjoyment. It is, after all, what they already tried to do to us.
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Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.17 15:38:00 -
[645]
Originally by: Johnny ReeRee
Originally by: Nekumi
Nobody should want lag. It messes the game up for everyone and I would be happy to see you put forth your ideas somewhere that might bring them to the attention of the developers and if they are good ones then I'll be the first to give you props for putting them down and getting them put into the game. We need more people like Sarmaul or Bane Glorious in this game and less people spinning it for some imagined political goal that serves nobody's real interest in the long term.
What an odd suggestion. It's almost as if you think game performance improvements should come as a result of polling the user-base for suggestions. The goonies have suggested nerfing carriers, so therefore it's incumbent on others to define ways to reduce lag?
I hate to be the one to break it to you, but the game designers are the only people who are actually in a position to figure out where the areas of best improvement lie, and how to implement the appropriate changes. Hundreds of goonies regurgitating some talking point from goonfleet.com about fighter clouds and lag contribute exactly ZERO rationality to the discussion, despite all your pretensions here.
But it is pretty awesome to see dozens of goonies and hundreds of goonie posts crying about lag. So much for the 'interweb spaceships lawlz we don't care more than you don't care!' schtick. I revisited the JV1V thread, and boy were the goonies singing a different song then! Now why would that be?
Where exactly did I say anything should be done by poll or a quorum or anything other than the developers in CCP? I totally agree that they are the best people to decide on these things. That isn't even up for discussion. I personally have no opinion on the fighters issue currently being put forth up to the point that I haven't even mentioned it until now but I am glad that it is up there because any discourse is better than none. Anything that helps CCP is a good thing and I am fully behind their decisions most of the time.
Nice example of trying to spin this out though. You do a better job of illustrating what I mentioned before than I ever could by trying to explain it in words.
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babinjo
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.09.17 15:43:00 -
[646]
Originally by: Kaldaine
Goonswarm isnt here because we want you or anyone else to like us. We have our allies and they are the best around. We do want to grief BoB and friends out of this game and give them no enjoyment. It is, after all, what they already tried to do to us.
thank you. I thought your suggestions in this thread were more oriented toward less laggy fights
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Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.17 15:45:00 -
[647]
Originally by: babinjo
Originally by: Kaldaine
Goonswarm isnt here because we want you or anyone else to like us. We have our allies and they are the best around. We do want to grief BoB and friends out of this game and give them no enjoyment. It is, after all, what they already tried to do to us.
thank you. I thought your suggestions in this thread were more oriented toward less laggy fights
Your problem is that you can't see the two are mutually exclusive.
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babinjo
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.09.17 15:50:00 -
[648]
Originally by: Nekumi
Originally by: babinjo
Originally by: Kaldaine
Goonswarm isnt here because we want you or anyone else to like us. We have our allies and they are the best around. We do want to grief BoB and friends out of this game and give them no enjoyment. It is, after all, what they already tried to do to us.
thank you. I thought your suggestions in this thread were more oriented toward less laggy fights
Your problem is that you can't see the two are mutually exclusive.
Why are you answering to alt, is beyond me
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Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.17 15:50:00 -
[649]
Originally by: babinjo
Originally by: Nekumi
Originally by: babinjo
Originally by: Kaldaine
Goonswarm isnt here because we want you or anyone else to like us. We have our allies and they are the best around. We do want to grief BoB and friends out of this game and give them no enjoyment. It is, after all, what they already tried to do to us.
thank you. I thought your suggestions in this thread were more oriented toward less laggy fights
Your problem is that you can't see the two are mutually exclusive.
Why are you answering to alt, is beyond me
Quoting for Irony.
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Zenst
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.09.17 18:29:00 -
[650]
The solution I proposed here , would help with this as would also be able to cover cynjo jump in's and bridging.
That said as it stands I'm not aware of ANY invulnability timer for jumpbridges and capitals using cyno's. Maybe thats were people need to be looking.
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Torshin
Prophets Of a Damned Universe Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.09.17 19:47:00 -
[651]
Originally by: Citric Acid
Originally by: Torshin
Originally by: alpheon a bunch of stuff.
tbh people might accept the Goons petition if they had created developement forum threads and requested that LV get their titan back when they flooded the system with more pilots then the node could hold. The only reason they want fighters fixxed is because its a tactic that they can not currently beat. Whether is fair or not is irrelevant because NO ONE cares if its fair or not if its working in their favor.
B-B-B-BITTER
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Eskalin
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.17 21:29:00 -
[652]
in before the lock!!!
If babies were not meant to be eaten then they wouldn't be hibachi sized.
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Muff Joos
Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.17 22:33:00 -
[653]
Originally by: Khorian Weird, the goons know that many pilots in one system cause lag. Yet they let people in Newb Ships tag along. That way they shoot themselves in the leg. The place that is taken up by the useless newb ships could have been usefull expirienced pilots. Yes, I would say you better tell your 1 month newbs to stay the **** away from serious business internet spaceship battles.
When did this stop being a game for you?
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Citric Acid
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.17 23:56:00 -
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Edited by: Citric Acid on 17/09/2007 23:56:32
Originally by: Torshin
Originally by: Citric Acid
Originally by: Torshin
Originally by: alpheon a bunch of stuff.
tbh people might accept the Goons petition if they had created developement forum threads and requested that LV get their titan back when they flooded the system with more pilots then the node could hold. The only reason they want fighters fixxed is because its a tactic that they can not currently beat. Whether is fair or not is irrelevant because NO ONE cares if its fair or not if its working in their favor.
B-B-B-BITTER
Oh sorry i forgot that i was the one crying all over the forums about how broken fighters are.
You would think with how intelligent and brave you are, your alliance would of lasted a little bit longer.
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Torshin
Prophets Of a Damned Universe Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.09.18 04:28:00 -
[655]
Originally by: Citric Acid Edited by: Citric Acid on 17/09/2007 23:56:32
Originally by: Torshin
Originally by: Citric Acid
Originally by: Torshin
Originally by: alpheon a bunch of stuff.
tbh people might accept the Goons petition if they had created developement forum threads and requested that LV get their titan back when they flooded the system with more pilots then the node could hold. The only reason they want fighters fixxed is because its a tactic that they can not currently beat. Whether is fair or not is irrelevant because NO ONE cares if its fair or not if its working in their favor.
B-B-B-BITTER
Oh sorry i forgot that i was the one crying all over the forums about how broken fighters are.
You would think with how intelligent and brave you are, your alliance would of lasted a little bit longer.
nope we failure cascaded straight outta 0.0, have any good insults left? -------------------------------------------
Backdoor Bandit - Unofficial leader of the new 'Post with your main or STFU' campaign. I'm Shinra and I'm the champion of Eve. |
Erotic Irony
0bsession
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Posted - 2007.09.18 06:07:00 -
[656]
Originally by: Torshin
Originally by: Citric Acid Edited by: Citric Acid on 17/09/2007 23:56:32
Originally by: Torshin
Originally by: Citric Acid
Originally by: Torshin
Originally by: alpheon a bunch of stuff.
tbh people might accept the Goons petition if they had created developement forum threads and requested that LV get their titan back when they flooded the system with more pilots then the node could hold. The only reason they want fighters fixxed is because its a tactic that they can not currently beat. Whether is fair or not is irrelevant because NO ONE cares if its fair or not if its working in their favor.
B-B-B-BITTER
Oh sorry i forgot that i was the one crying all over the forums about how broken fighters are.
You would think with how intelligent and brave you are, your alliance would of lasted a little bit longer.
nope we failure cascaded straight outta 0.0, have any good insults left?
here's one:
Torshin Prophets Of a Damned Universe Praesidium Libertatis ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
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Torshin
Prophets Of a Damned Universe Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.09.18 06:32:00 -
[657]
Originally by: Erotic Irony
Originally by: Torshin
Originally by: Citric Acid Edited by: Citric Acid on 17/09/2007 23:56:32
Originally by: Torshin
Originally by: Citric Acid
Originally by: Torshin
Originally by: alpheon a bunch of stuff.
tbh people might accept the Goons petition if they had created developement forum threads and requested that LV get their titan back when they flooded the system with more pilots then the node could hold. The only reason they want fighters fixxed is because its a tactic that they can not currently beat. Whether is fair or not is irrelevant because NO ONE cares if its fair or not if its working in their favor.
B-B-B-BITTER
Oh sorry i forgot that i was the one crying all over the forums about how broken fighters are.
You would think with how intelligent and brave you are, your alliance would of lasted a little bit longer.
nope we failure cascaded straight outta 0.0, have any good insults left?
here's one:
Torshin Prophets Of a Damned Universe Praesidium Libertatis
o Rly? -------------------------------------------
Backdoor Bandit - Unofficial leader of the new 'Post with your main or STFU' campaign. I'm Shinra and I'm the champion of Eve. |
Vital Efters
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.18 10:33:00 -
[658]
Originally by: Torshin
Originally by: Erotic Irony
Originally by: Torshin
Originally by: Citric Acid Edited by: Citric Acid on 17/09/2007 23:56:32
Originally by: Torshin
Originally by: Citric Acid
Originally by: Torshin
Originally by: alpheon a bunch of stuff.
tbh people might accept the Goons petition if they had created developement forum threads and requested that LV get their titan back when they flooded the system with more pilots then the node could hold. The only reason they want fighters fixxed is because its a tactic that they can not currently beat. Whether is fair or not is irrelevant because NO ONE cares if its fair or not if its working in their favor.
B-B-B-BITTER
Oh sorry i forgot that i was the one crying all over the forums about how broken fighters are.
You would think with how intelligent and brave you are, your alliance would of lasted a little bit longer.
nope we failure cascaded straight outta 0.0, have any good insults left?
here's one:
Torshin Prophets Of a Damned Universe Praesidium Libertatis
o Rly?
haha, very interesting
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Valorem
Amarr Forum Moderator
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Posted - 2007.09.18 11:24:00 -
[659]
Since this thread has degenerated into alt posters, trolling, personal attacks and quote pyramids, it is safe to assume that it has run its course.
*Click*
Valorem
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