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IsoMetricanTaliac 2
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.21 23:33:00 -
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This thread looks like it was started by someone who has had it too good for too long & because of that they THINK they have some sort of right to have CCP step in & create an even bigger problem by making them untouchable by other players while they continue farming HUGE amounts of ISK & LP.
We have a situation where these 2 main Incursion running corp/alliances are telling people they have some sort of agreement with CCP to make the rules around how Incursions are run & who can take part. Most people who have any idea would know that this is just a load of rubbish & now that there are players disturbing these farmers they decide that they need to run to the forums & any other place they think people will listen & cry.
I am surprised they haven't started a thread about all the accounts that are going to unsub unless CCP does what THEY want! (Oh wait a minute they have!)   With the amount of ISK you people have made since you started farming I would have to wonder if some of it is being channeled into RMT coffers?
Lets hope CCP does make changes to the amounts of ISK & LP that can be made from running these things endlessly because it is having a negative affect on the market prices of EVERYTHING & those that want to play other parts of the game are instantly put at a disadvantage as they don't have the constant streams of MEGA-ISK coming into their wallets yet they have to deal with the problems it is causing.
I think there also needs to be some sort of statement from CCP about whether these people are able to DICTATE what the rules are around doing Incursions because isn't that boarder line Rule Breaking in it's self?
So cry it up BIG & continue losing your HIGH Value ships because someone has to get the loot from them  
Also it's funny to see these twits trying to come out with some sort of comeback on the forums because it just shows how badly the incursions have made things for those that want to play other aspects of the game. Stop allowing them to keep the damn things running when the SuperCarrier spawns by not killing it. |

Tian Nu
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
16
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Posted - 2012.01.21 23:37:00 -
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play another game if the incursion drama is bugging you, you may discover that the game industry is not only CCP.  |

Din'stalor Alaric
StarHunt Broken Toys
45
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Posted - 2012.01.22 02:17:00 -
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OP - Welcome to Eve Online. I guess you never logged on before? Amirite? Solo 4 Life.1v1 always honored, flying without booster alt since Oct 2010.No ransoms honored even if offered :) |

Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
239
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Posted - 2012.01.22 02:36:00 -
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Heaven forfend that you might try and stop them yourself. |

Nyssa Litari
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
26
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Posted - 2012.01.22 02:47:00 -
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rareden wrote: correction we are fixing the broken system, it just so happens that people such as you are crying that you cant make your op amounts of isk thus making it more enjoyable for us.
So by that logic, all the Incursion runners should be crying for tech moons to be nerfed, yes? So are you killing MOMs in low and null also? You claim to be after balance, after all. Or is it only a slanting in your favor that you're after? |

Haoibuni
Fleet of the Damned Ace of Spades.
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Posted - 2012.01.22 03:10:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDS7boNwtKk |

KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
246
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Posted - 2012.01.22 03:10:00 -
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Nyssa Litari wrote:rareden wrote: correction we are fixing the broken system, it just so happens that people such as you are crying that you cant make your op amounts of isk thus making it more enjoyable for us.
So by that logic, all the Incursion runners should be crying for tech moons to be nerfed, yes? So are you killing MOMs in low and null also? You claim to be after balance, after all. Or is it only a slanting in your favor that you're after? Literally no one is stopping you from forming up a fleet to do that. Have at.  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/39006524/DumbHiseccers.jpg |

Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1151
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Posted - 2012.01.22 03:20:00 -
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How dare null sec have more resources than high sec. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |

JC Anderson
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
169
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Posted - 2012.01.22 03:21:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:How dare null sec have more resources than high sec.
Oh the horror! |

Buff Jesus
15
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Posted - 2012.01.22 03:25:00 -
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KrakizBad wrote:Nyssa Litari wrote:rareden wrote: correction we are fixing the broken system, it just so happens that people such as you are crying that you cant make your op amounts of isk thus making it more enjoyable for us.
So by that logic, all the Incursion runners should be crying for tech moons to be nerfed, yes? So are you killing MOMs in low and null also? You claim to be after balance, after all. Or is it only a slanting in your favor that you're after? Literally no one is stopping you from forming up a fleet to do that. Have at. 
But then their shiny instagib ships might get roughed up on the way there. Madness... New Favorite Eve Hobby: Bumping BS's with a Crow. |

Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1151
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Posted - 2012.01.22 03:30:00 -
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It's not fair to force PVP on people. They should be able to form a public tear collection and have CCP fix it for them. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |

Rendaw
The Green Cross Controlled Chaos
4
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Posted - 2012.01.22 03:37:00 -
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best tears in ages OP this incursion stuff is making forum lurking so fun.
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Sekket
White-Noise
9
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Posted - 2012.01.22 03:52:00 -
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minmatarsebiestormale20091011111 wrote:Basicly BrickSquad and co. have killed another mothership thus closing the incursion.
This is becoming a joke, i get the point that incursions need looking at and balancing. But these idiots cry because they want the whole of eve to play, the way they play. Killing the mom for a laff so the bears cant farm is punishing the normal player.
I run incursions not just for the isk, but the social aspect. This is ofc being ruined because of a bunch of goon wannabes crying because they arent making the huge isk.
CCP needs to put a stop to this now!!. If anything make the incursions run a timer of 3-4days before they move, even if the mom hasnt been killed. (As short term solution for now)
Also CSM's have been involved in these MOM killing fleets. This shows me they out for their own interests or corp/alliance interests. They are ment to be listening to the community not ruining it.
Incursions where ment to bring players together, have fun make some isk be happy, this new style which eve has enjoyed is slowly being torn apart. However i will say again, i agree incursions need balancing to make it good for everyone.
SO CCP SORT OUT THESE IDIOTS WHO ARE RUINING THE GAME
My god, I'm outraged by this turn of events. Imagine the gaul of them playing the game within the parameters that CCP established! - CQ isn't a refuge, it's a cage. |

Myxx
Atropos Group Blood Right
480
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Posted - 2012.01.22 08:00:00 -
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minmatarsebiestormale20091011111 wrote:Basicly BrickSquad and co. have killed another mothership thus closing the incursion.
This is becoming a joke, i get the point that incursions need looking at and balancing. But these idiots cry because they want the whole of eve to play, the way they play. Killing the mom for a laff so the bears cant farm is punishing the normal player.
I run incursions not just for the isk, but the social aspect. This is ofc being ruined because of a bunch of goon wannabes crying because they arent making the huge isk.
CCP needs to put a stop to this now!!. If anything make the incursions run a timer of 3-4days before they move, even if the mom hasnt been killed. (As short term solution for now)
Also CSM's have been involved in these MOM killing fleets. This shows me they out for their own interests or corp/alliance interests. They are ment to be listening to the community not ruining it.
Incursions where ment to bring players together, have fun make some isk be happy, this new style which eve has enjoyed is slowly being torn apart. However i will say again, i agree incursions need balancing to make it good for everyone.
SO CCP SORT OUT THESE IDIOTS WHO ARE RUINING THE GAME You. Uninstall. Now. |

Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
85
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Posted - 2012.01.22 08:03:00 -
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Sounds sorted to me, kill the mom, or kill the Br1ck guys. |

Razor Blue
Hyvat Pahat ja Eric The Polaris Syndicate
9
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Posted - 2012.01.22 08:20:00 -
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minmatarsebiestormale20091011111 wrote:Basicly BrickSquad and co. have killed another mothership thus closing the incursion.
This is becoming a joke, i get the point that incursions need looking at and balancing. But these idiots cry because they want the whole of eve to play, the way they play. Killing the mom for a laff so the bears cant farm is punishing the normal player.
I run incursions not just for the isk, but the social aspect. This is ofc being ruined because of a bunch of goon wannabes crying because they arent making the huge isk.
CCP needs to put a stop to this now!!. If anything make the incursions run a timer of 3-4days before they move, even if the mom hasnt been killed. (As short term solution for now)
Also CSM's have been involved in these MOM killing fleets. This shows me they out for their own interests or corp/alliance interests. They are ment to be listening to the community not ruining it.
Incursions where ment to bring players together, have fun make some isk be happy, this new style which eve has enjoyed is slowly being torn apart. However i will say again, i agree incursions need balancing to make it good for everyone.
SO CCP SORT OUT THESE IDIOTS WHO ARE RUINING THE GAME
Sorry, but this is how Incursions are supposed to work. They are not supposed to provide steady stream of isk 23/7.
One day you get 100mil per hour, next day you get nothing, this is how Incursions are balanced.
Missions provide steady +60mil per hour every single day.
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Xorv
Questionable Acquisitions
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Posted - 2012.01.22 08:21:00 -
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minmatarsebiestormale20091011111 wrote: Incursions where ment to bring players together, have fun make some isk be happy, this new style which eve has enjoyed is slowly being torn apart. However i will say again, i agree incursions need balancing to make it good for everyone.
Yeah I agree, needs to be made good for everyone, Sansha Loyalists and friends have been kicked to the curb by artificial barriers keeping them from enjoying Incursions. Remove CONCORD from these systems with Incursions so everyone can participate, heck you would have been able to try and blow up BrickSquad before they killed the MOM had it not been for the undefeatable CONCORD presence in High Sec.
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Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
85
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Posted - 2012.01.22 08:34:00 -
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Xorv wrote:minmatarsebiestormale20091011111 wrote: Incursions where ment to bring players together, have fun make some isk be happy, this new style which eve has enjoyed is slowly being torn apart. However i will say again, i agree incursions need balancing to make it good for everyone.
Yeah I agree, needs to be made good for everyone, Sansha Loyalists and friends have been kicked to the curb by artificial barriers keeping them from enjoying Incursions. Remove CONCORD from these systems with Incursions so everyone can participate, heck you would have been able to try and blow up BrickSquad before they killed the MOM had it not been for the undefeatable CONCORD presence in High Sec.
Don't even need to do that, a little bit of a sec buffer (which you should be floored if you are an incursion runner) and just fly ina bunch of rooks and jam the logi.
Buh bye mom fleet, and you only take an aggression hit now, a full 2% ship kill.
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Sicex
11
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Posted - 2012.01.22 08:43:00 -
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I feel like I'm in a buffet of tears and I just can't stop eating!
I love you Brick Squad, keep up the good fight by keeping those Sansha bitches out of our backyards!
Edit: I forgot to remind everyone how hard CCP is laughing with glee right now that their sandbox game finally came half circle - full circle occurs when the Bears realize their ships can fit modules called 'Warp Disruptors' that prevent target ships from escaping their ... *ahem* wrath. |

Tub Chil
Heretic University Heretic Nation
11
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Posted - 2012.01.22 11:23:00 -
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you dirty little bears...
you have:
1) Faction fitted T3-s 2) Faction fitted faction battleships 3) Logistics 4) Numbers
Move your pink asses out of noob NPC corps, wardec them and kill them. If you can't do that at least have some honor to STFU. |

Reilly Duvolle
Hydra Squadron
264
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Posted - 2012.01.22 11:32:00 -
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Wow. I dont think I have read this many tears since Kartoons Jihadswarm days. However, drama is good 
Carry on. |

Daniel L'Siata
Echelon Conflict Resolution. Psychotic Tendencies.
77
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Posted - 2012.01.22 11:35:00 -
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Oh god, these tears are delicious, they fill the void in my soul that I can't get with food.
*eats a hotdog and cries* |

Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
274
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Posted - 2012.01.22 11:45:00 -
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minmatarsebiestormale20091011111 wrote:Basicly BrickSquad and co. have killed another mothership thus closing the incursion.
Working exactly as intended (Rico puts on wizard hat and prepares to defend teh RP guys honour..)
Thank -Insert prefered thing to thank-(God/Empress/Empreror/Exotic Dancers/Matari etc) someone is putting an end to the Sansha menace and not letting more helpless peoepl get sucked into the spaceships and turned into erm.. bio-mech alien zombies? (hold on, isnt that that aweful film Skyline?)
Basically these mean spirited people killing Sansha Moms are actually playing the incursions part of Eve right, the rest of you are exploiting the mechanic to farm isk in massive volumes not available anywhere else to the run of the mill player in a spaceship.
Incursions spawns should spawn once and that it for each site. End of farming. Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |

Freundliches Feuer
Exanimo Inc
1
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Posted - 2012.01.22 11:46:00 -
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We were there.... and we will be there for the next one... and the one after that.... umad yet ?
Keep the tears flowin' ;) |
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CCP Spitfire
C C P C C P Alliance
1300

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Posted - 2012.01.22 12:05:00 -
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Hello everyone,
In the interest of keeping the forum a bit less cluttered, I suggest keeping all feedback on the recent Brick Squad campaign in this thread (its title has been changed accordingly to provide a little extra clarity). I'd like to stress that this is not an attempt to censor the discussion or sweep things under the rug, but rather to maintain General Discussion in a more or less healthy state.
I have already sent the feedback on the whole "turbo-running incursions" situation to our developers and hope they will be able to pitch in here soon. Consolidating the conversation in one thread will allow them to read all the arguments more easily and provide their own thoughts in a single place.
We appreciate the concern of both parties involved and will definitely take all feedback into consideration.
Ninja edit: Please keep in mind that all forum rules are still in effect, and failure to adhere to them may result in warnings and/or bans. CCP Spitfire | Russian Community Coordinator @ccp_spitfire |
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Grumpy Owly
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
74
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Posted - 2012.01.22 12:16:00 -
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Tres Farmer wrote:Grumpy Owly wrote:Large Collidable Object wrote:CeneUJiti wrote:Gathering a fleet and doing a NPC site for sole purpose of annoying and angering everyone? I like how you speak for everyone. As an eve player, I'm aggravated by the absurd amounts of isk spilled into eve's economy via incursions. Which accounts for about 5% or less of the faucets. Have you considered how much for instance normal mission running contributes into the mix? Or all the other isk generating capabilities. Regardless of that inflation isnt an issue according to the recent CSM minutes (about 1%) so any "spilling" into the economy isnt a problem as reported by CCP. *snip* 1% per month.. that's 12% per year.. probably more. A currency is being considered 'stable'* in a window of 1-3% per year.. *) stable would be 0%, but there is some more to it and current real world currencies aren't constructed/designed to work with 0% (for the worse of the planet and all it's inhabitants). @OP: you fail @Br1ck & Co: nice job
The 1% is the current inflation value, I assume this is an annual figure not a monthly one. And the fact that CCP reported to the CSM that it wasnt an issue refutes your scare mongering attempt to twist the statistics for personal selfish reasons as opposed to an objective argument.
Seems to be an ongoing trend with the griefers however, in that they need to invent reasons.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4487
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Posted - 2012.01.22 12:16:00 -
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GǪand since everything is going into this thread instead, I suppose I have to respond to a different thread here instead:
saltrock0000 wrote:This is the highest priced MMO on the market. Sure. If by GÇ£highest pricedGÇ¥ you mean GÇ£using the standard price for the industryGÇ¥. I wonder why people keep bringing up this particular piece of nonsense when it's so blatantly falseGǪ  GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |

Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
359
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Posted - 2012.01.22 12:18:00 -
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All of this is just a propaganda campaign to have Darius III re-elected to the CSM. 
Put a timer on the mothership. When timer runs out, mothership is gone, incursion dissapears. No more ISK farming. No more tears from farmers and griefers alike. The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |

Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
212
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Posted - 2012.01.22 12:19:00 -
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CCP Spitfire wrote: I'd like to stress that this is not an attempt to censor the discussion or sweep things under the rug, but rather to maintain General Discussion in a more or less healthy state.
Regardless of whether you stress it or not, I'm sorry but shoehorning multiple threads with different trains of thought into one megathread is effectively censoring the ideas.
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saltrock0000
Obsessive Compulsive Disasters
16
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Posted - 2012.01.22 12:19:00 -
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If CCP activly do anything to change incursions then they WILL loose subscibers. However, IF a group of people get together and decide to act alone and destroy a mothership to stop the endless farming then so be it. ITS FAIR!
EvE is a sandbox and is what you and I make of it.
CCP shouldn't nurf incursions, but at the same time if this "griefing" happens its part of the game and CCP shouldn't take action against them.
- A true incursioners input - |
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