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Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2007.10.04 23:21:00 - [31] 11 mill for my first zealot... my zealot also took a bit of training before I felt confident taking it into lowsec. trained for nearly t2 EVERYTHING i had fitted before I felt confident in it.
Durethia Momentum. The Reckoning.	Posted - 2007.10.05 02:23:00 - [32] I had around 10 million when I got my first HAC
hellsknights Hells Angels Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.05 06:54:00 - [33] Originally by: Ogdru Jahad Originally by: hellsknights well then you were a newb in a Absolution then, sorry to say. When i consider myself ship ready "trained to fly and equip" i make sure to have the ship skill to 4 and all relative equipment "T2". Don't tell me you had all that at 13mil SP cause if you did i would of loved to kill you. Actually not really, this chr was made just so it can fly an abso. I seen chrs of less sp in the same kind of ship taking short cuts. after all been playing since july 2004, i think i know how to spec a chr for one type of ship only. ship was fully t2 fitted. only fault of the chr at that time was all gunnery related skills were at lvl 4. now they are at lvl 5. that includes HPII and HB II weapons. I did not deviate from my chrs chosen path, A specced chr can afford to be less sp if he or she is aiming for one ship. Ill take your word for it but i still find it hard to believe. recruitment thread Join channel Hells Angels Inc
Acinonyx Jubatus Minmatar Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.05 13:52:00 - [34] Edited by: Acinonyx Jubatus on 05/10/2007 13:54:23 18-19mish area Was a Vaga, and it died to a Ragnarok, so therefore I must now train for a titan. Edit: That ragnarok died actually, now that I think of it... trains for a blob of caps instead
Duhban	Posted - 2007.10.05 19:33:00 - [35] ~8 million sp though frankly i only ran missions with it (but i did level 4s easily)
Tale Tanxury	Posted - 2007.10.05 22:09:00 - [36] A little playing with EveMon: a brand-new Amarr character, fresh out of the tube with roughly 800K skill points, can train to Sacrilege in 129 days and a 3.562m SP. Adding in learning skills to IV results in a 91-day training time and a 3.949m SP total. As for the OP's question, personally I got into a Cerberus at around 16m SP. I have only one char, and my training history has been, shall we say, eclectic to this point.
Chaplain Veritas Amarr	Posted - 2007.10.06 00:11:00 - [37] Edited by: Chaplain Veritas on 06/10/2007 00:19:56 Originally by: Tale Tanxury A little playing with EveMon: a brand-new Amarr character, fresh out of the tube with roughly 800K skill points, can train to Sacrilege in 129 days and a 3.562m SP. Adding in learning skills to IV results in a 91-day training time and a 3.949m SP total. As for the OP's question, personally I got into a Cerberus at around 16m SP. I have only one char, and my training history has been, shall we say, eclectic to this point. interesting, yeah that would have craptastic support skills but yeah you could fly around in space in one at least at that much SP hehe. anyway...... according to evemon i'll have 6.5mill when i get heavy assault ships I along with: small eng turret V small pulse spec V med eng turret V energy sys op V hull upgrades V weapon upgrade V electronics V engineering V mech V drone V spaceship comm V assault ship IV long range target IV controlled burst IV sig analysis IV targeting IV energy management IV scout drone IV battlecruise IV med pulse spec I what else will i need to roll with? seems like 6.5mill is a bit short from the sounds of things, what else would i need to fill out that ship? EDIT: IIIIIIIIIIIII KNOW WHAT I DID WRONG LOL. forgot the required Amarr Cruiser V i'll need for the boat. that bumps my grand total of about 7.6 million SP. THAT makes a lil more sense. Also bumps my training time to 130 days for the whole enchilada....
Kreila Minmatar The Shambling Horde	Posted - 2007.10.06 01:04:00 - [38] 10-15mil on each of my toons
Tappits Caldari Cross Roads	Posted - 2007.10.15 10:59:00 - [39] i had 14mill sp when i first jumped in to my first HAC and it went pop very quick. dont bother till you can fully T2 fit it min -I suck at pvp but that does not stop me from poping your pod :)
Roc Wieler Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.15 12:43:00 - [40] 12,467,529 SP and able to masterfully fly a Vagabond and also a Rapier. I knew what I wanted to do from the start. That helps. Had researched the forums for about a month before I actually signed up to EVE. *** Colonel Roc Wieler Merchant Marines "There's a time to stand up and be a man, but right now son, you should just run." - Roc Wieler
Carniflex Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project	Posted - 2007.10.16 05:42:00 - [41] Around 38 mil. It was not priority for me, as I usually fly battleships or AF's. With tech 2 battleships on the horizon it was at last high enough priority to train for one.
Skraeling Shortbus Caldari The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.10.16 06:36:00 - [42] shrug im at 19m and i cant fly one yet. Love to the Assault Frigate!
nickiy	Posted - 2007.10.16 10:42:00 - [43] I had about 28mil I think when i first bought my cerb. Can ift it nicely with T2 stuff and what not, but aint that confident in it:P Nighthawk ftw
sapage1 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.16 12:20:00 - [44] Originally by: Chaplain Veritas title says it all. i figure right now that is my long/mid-range goal. i'm still fairly young eve-wise and figure assfrigs and hacs are a fair goal to set for myself. is it feasible to skip over BS's, just continue doing missions / ratting / noobpvp in an ever pimping-out battlecruiser while i get support skills and other necessary skills up for assfrigs (and eventually hacs)? i figure why should i work to get my heavy guns and other BS stuff rolling if i don't plan to fly the real big stuff. thanks for helping eliminate noobishness and ignorance. I would say if you just put SP towards hac then 12+ mill sp would be fine as you really need some support skills to fly one effectivily. You don't need lvl5 everything lvl4 is fine to start but you will notice the difference with lvl5. I would say get hac lvl4 also before flying them as you will miss out on a bit with lvl2 or 3. I personally had 40mill sp on one char before I was in my first hac but that char was pretty specialized into other areas. My pvp char was in a hac with 30+ sp but he is a pretty old char and I used to fly BS so I had all my support skills. For missions I would stick with a BC over a hac they tank better and do better damage for the most part. BS are fun I have to admit flying a tempest with all gunnery lvl5 large proj5 and BS is nice as there is not much in game that can do as much damage :) Your Sig is great but we are not allowed to let you have it....
Ezekiel Sulastin Gallente Eve University	Posted - 2007.10.17 00:17:00 - [45] I was at about 11.5m when I stepped into an Ishtar - however, much of the previous training for t2 equipment was complete due to my quest to get a t2-fit cruiser or BC. The only thing I was lacking was t2 heavy drones, but I decided to get the Ishtar first since I would be away from Eve for a while soon after - fly it a bit before I leave, and let heavies finish while I was out. I could get and fit a Deimos, but I have other things to buy at the moment >.> As anyone ingame can tell you, I love my Ishtar :)
Chaplain Veritas Amarr	Posted - 2007.10.17 00:36:00 - [46] Originally by: Ezekiel Sulastin I was at about 11.5m when I stepped into an Ishtar - however, much of the previous training for t2 equipment was complete due to my quest to get a t2-fit cruiser or BC. The only thing I was lacking was t2 heavy drones, but I decided to get the Ishtar first since I would be away from Eve for a while soon after - fly it a bit before I leave, and let heavies finish while I was out. I could get and fit a Deimos, but I have other things to buy at the moment >.> As anyone ingame can tell you, I love my Ishtar :) i'd kill to be working towards hopping in an ishtar instead of a gimpy amarr HAC. lord i hate the amarr HACs. ffs why am i even wasting my time???? oh yeah, in hopes they aren't so gimpy by the time i can get in one. ____________________________ the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist
sapage1 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.17 11:52:00 - [47] Originally by: Roc Wieler 12,467,529 SP and able to masterfully fly a Vagabond and also a Rapier. I knew what I wanted to do from the start. That helps. Had researched the forums for about a month before I actually signed up to EVE. At 12mill SP you are still pretty light on for a hac to be honest. You might be able to fly it well but you will be missing certain key skills to really take advantage of the ship as a whole. Gunnery need about 5mill+ here support + tech2 Cap + engineering few mill in here cap helps as do shields :) tech2 light drone you will notice how good they are. Nav this is a very important one and you should really put some time into it :) Your Sig is great but we are not allowed to let you have it....
Wayward Hooligan Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.10.17 20:23:00 - [48] Originally by: Chaplain Veritas Originally by: Ezekiel Sulastin I was at about 11.5m when I stepped into an Ishtar - however, much of the previous training for t2 equipment was complete due to my quest to get a t2-fit cruiser or BC. The only thing I was lacking was t2 heavy drones, but I decided to get the Ishtar first since I would be away from Eve for a while soon after - fly it a bit before I leave, and let heavies finish while I was out. I could get and fit a Deimos, but I have other things to buy at the moment >.> As anyone ingame can tell you, I love my Ishtar :) i'd kill to be working towards hopping in an ishtar instead of a gimpy amarr HAC. lord i hate the amarr HACs. ffs why am i even wasting my time???? oh yeah, in hopes they aren't so gimpy by the time i can get in one. Zealot and Sac are great. NanoSac is badass solo boat. Zealot with beams is amazing in gangs.
Cpt Branko The Bloody Red	Posted - 2007.10.18 12:30:00 - [49] Hmmm - I'm at 8.45M atm and still not close to flying a HAC. According to my calculations, I'll need about 800K more SP in gunnery, about 300K-400K SP more in navigation, might as well throw some 500K in drones (I have next to no SP in drones) and 200K in electronics (still need signature analysis V, always skipped that one) until I feel my support skills would enable me to fly a HAC to a reasonable level of efficency. After that, throw on the required Cruiser V and HACs to IV (which is, roughly a mil SP), and it appears I'll be able to fly a HAC at some 11.4M SP, which sounds just about in-line with what people here say. By that time I'll have enough experience flying a nano-Cynabal to fly a Vagabond to a good standard of efficency. As for BS, I can't fly a BS, I've spent my EvE life flying smaller things. Even BCs I find kindof slow - I'm having most fun in frigates, really, and can stomach cruisers.
Rashmika Clavain Gallente Revelation Space	Posted - 2007.10.18 15:14:00 - [50] 21m here
badermans UK Corp	Posted - 2007.10.20 01:57:00 - [51] I have just over 16mill sp and i can fly a HAC with all support skills at least to level 4 and can use all T2 stuff on my HAC. Also I have BS 5. It just all depends on what you want to spec for. Im sure you could fly a hac with allt the support skills to 4 as well as the main ones to 5 with 8 mill sp
Chr0nosX Ore Mongers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.10.20 22:54:00 - [52] 17mil SP roughly.
Umit Davala Corpus PCG The State	Posted - 2007.10.20 23:23:00 - [53] About 17mil here. I didnt see the point in training for a Vaga when they were costing the best part of half a bil to buy and fit decently. Yay invention!
ClogMan Caldari Unknown-Heroes KA0S Theory	Posted - 2007.10.22 10:39:00 - [54] I try to follow the rule "get the skills to fly it well" before i upgrade my ships. I dotn see the point in getting the ship and then train for all the side skills (gunnery, navigation etc. etc) Therefor i think i had about 25m SP before i sat foot in a vaga. Im not in a hurry to get new ships, i prefer getting my skills in order first :)
Havok Pierce Gallente D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.11.21 04:43:00 - [55] Edited by: Havok Pierce on 21/11/2007 04:44:53 29m, I actually flew Command Ships (Astarte) before I flew any HACs (Deimos). I <3 the Deimos, btw. Right, I hate flying battleships in PVP. You generally want the ship's skill at L4 before you really start flying it decently. Also, you really do need T2 weapons/armor for the thing as well as the support skills at at least L3/L4. Originally by: CCP Wrangler There's a Community petition category??
Jessica Molla	Posted - 2007.11.21 13:09:00 - [56] Originally by: Havok Pierce Edited by: Havok Pierce on 21/11/2007 04:44:53 29m, I actually flew Command Ships (Astarte) before I flew any HACs (Deimos). I <3 the Deimos, btw. Right, I hate flying battleships in PVP. You generally want the ship's skill at L4 before you really start flying it decently. Also, you really do need T2 weapons/armor for the thing as well as the support skills at at least L3/L4. i had around 9 mil, but after i got it i had to skill up some support skills so i really started flying it after i reached like 12 mils...at this point i started to skill for astarte too
Splash Whale Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.21 15:47:00 - [57] 9.6 Just jumped into my shiny Ishtar
Inen Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.11.21 18:47:00 - [58] Still have not gone for it yet (27 million SP). Right now I want to get my shield skills to V (and large AC spec to IV) and a few other skills first before I look into adding a new ship to my arsenal. My first HAC will be a Munnin though And I know I don't need shield skills for it (armor is done with level V to all except the comp skills which are at IV). I also need my drone skills up... blah so much to train.
Derrios Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.11.21 21:33:00 - [59] like 10m for ishtar (but i needed a lot more imo)
ArmyOfMe hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.11.22 07:32:00 - [60] Originally by: Michael Anthony I dont believe total skill points make much difference... what matters are the support skills.. I was soloing lvl 3s with my eagle because i had the necessary support skills... I am currently in a nighthawk, and that is the greatest ship i have ever flown. I am actually able to solo lvl 4 missions in that sucker, though i do always decline angel extravaganza and when worlds collide. I also have trouble with Guristas Extravaganza, though i am able to complete it every time. Just takes 5-6 hours and lots of warp outs.. Anyway, Im getting a little off topic, but i wish i had never trained Battleships ... it seems a waste of skill points to me... i cant stand those things... umm, the nighthawk doesnt have problems with any level 4 mission, so you should be safe in both angel extravaganza and worlds collide even tho they take a few hours. Not sure what your doing wrong to have to jump out during gurista extravaganza

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