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LifeLines m3 Corp Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.04 17:24:00 - [271] ok so every system has its own node, yes? i wonder would it be possible to add additional nodes that work like this... X system has 300 players in it, terrible lag. The server detects high player count in that system and "attaches" more CPU power from "emergency" nodes? :S im no IT pro, just sharing my thoughts..
Kagura Nikon Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.04 17:30:00 - [272] Originally by: bulabuba Well, if you clear away all the flames and the smoke that goes with them, what you see going on here is good stuff. The alliance is mounting a hard, sustained attack, the coalition is putting up a hard, determined defense and (at least for right now) being slowly but surely pushed back. Classic test of will. Props to everyone involved. Whether IAC/Red/AAA and others are able to hold, or whether their line breaks and IAC gets removed from the field, there is no doubt that the implications for morale and strategic position on both sides are huge. why you say that? the difference on POS claiming sover from IAC to bob got only bigger from 3 weeks ago to today. The POS lost where less than what we deployed just after initial BOB "spam" If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.10.04 17:38:00 - [273] Originally by: bulabuba Well, if you clear away all the flames and the smoke that goes with them, what you see going on here is good stuff. The alliance is mounting a hard, sustained attack, the coalition is putting up a hard, determined defense and (at least for right now) being slowly but surely pushed back. Classic test of will. Props to everyone involved. Whether IAC/Red/AAA and others are able to hold, or whether their line breaks and IAC gets removed from the field, there is no doubt that the implications for morale and strategic position on both sides are huge. What are you smoking? BoB lost another station today in Feyth. FAT is just 1 system in 1 warzone. Whatever happens doesn't affect morale much for anyone I think. If it did, BoB would have crumbled after 66- or other systems in Omist they lost after fighting hard to keep it. ------------------------------------------------ New idea for sovereignty: Sovereignty revisited
Kagura Nikon Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.04 17:40:00 - [274] Originally by: Malachon Draco Originally by: bulabuba Well, if you clear away all the flames and the smoke that goes with them, what you see going on here is good stuff. The alliance is mounting a hard, sustained attack, the coalition is putting up a hard, determined defense and (at least for right now) being slowly but surely pushed back. Classic test of will. Props to everyone involved. Whether IAC/Red/AAA and others are able to hold, or whether their line breaks and IAC gets removed from the field, there is no doubt that the implications for morale and strategic position on both sides are huge. What are you smoking? BoB lost another station today in Feyth. FAT is just 1 system in 1 warzone. Whatever happens doesn't affect morale much for anyone I think. If it did, BoB would have crumbled after 66- or other systems in Omist they lost after fighting hard to keep it. Witch station? Real curiosity. I might want to go check the garage offers that the former residents placed on market. If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.10.04 18:01:00 - [275] Originally by: Mynas Atoch stuff You have first-hand knowledge of the timeline. As such, I defer to your post. Originally by: Del369 Do i look bovvered Mynas ? I am chilled m8, yesterday wasn't fun for us though, our side didn't load the fight grids, at least most of us didnt, I sat at that 3-1 pos for 5 mins, then thought i had better gtfo there as nothing was loading, i clicked warp, 15 whole minutes later, with the same handful o friendly ships on screen as when i'd warped in i finally warped out, still with nothing else loaded, and from ts (for iac at least) it was the same story. how the hell you guys were repping carriers, deploying fighters and actually killing stuff i'll never know tbh (and i refuse to put the handy hat of tin foil on here) so no more days like yesterday please We were getting updates of module-activation lag on TS from someone sitting there with a stopwatch. It was seven minutes, then ten, then dropped to four, then back to ten.... The reason you got that dreadnought as far into structure as you did was that our carriers took ten minutes to lock it, and another ten minutes to get their remote reps to activate on it, and his shield booster didn't activate until he was into armor, IIRC. In other words, the lag was hitting us, too. We just sat there and kept jamming our buttons. Fights like this, BTW, are the reason everyone should use lasers. --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
NATMav F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.10.04 18:03:00 - [276] Originally by: LifeLines ok so every system has its own node, yes? i wonder would it be possible to add additional nodes that work like this... X system has 300 players in it, terrible lag. The server detects high player count in that system and "attaches" more CPU power from "emergency" nodes? :S im no IT pro, just sharing my thoughts.. Beating a dead horse. -CCP did not design the game to be able to reallocate resources on the fly. They can only be reallocated by shutting down the affected nodes or the entire cluster. -Under normal operations, low-traffic systems share a node with high-traffic systems to allow more solar systems to occupy one node. In the case of Jita, or a "reinforced node" system, the entire node is dedicated to that single system. This is the optimal scenario within the boundaries and limitations written into game, and it is still less than adequate. -Throwing hardware at this problem won't fix it, unless something comes along that far outshines the current hardware is running. Unless the game is rewritten to allow a single system to span multiple nodes, you won't see any breakthroughs in performance.
Del369 Caldari Office linebackers Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.04 18:26:00 - [277] Originally by: Pilk Originally by: Mynas Atoch stuff You have first-hand knowledge of the timeline. As such, I defer to your post. Originally by: Del369 Do i look bovvered Mynas ? I am chilled m8, yesterday wasn't fun for us though, our side didn't load the fight grids, at least most of us didnt, I sat at that 3-1 pos for 5 mins, then thought i had better gtfo there as nothing was loading, i clicked warp, 15 whole minutes later, with the same handful o friendly ships on screen as when i'd warped in i finally warped out, still with nothing else loaded, and from ts (for iac at least) it was the same story. how the hell you guys were repping carriers, deploying fighters and actually killing stuff i'll never know tbh (and i refuse to put the handy hat of tin foil on here) so no more days like yesterday please We were getting updates of module-activation lag on TS from someone sitting there with a stopwatch. It was seven minutes, then ten, then dropped to four, then back to ten.... The reason you got that dreadnought as far into structure as you did was that our carriers took ten minutes to lock it, and another ten minutes to get their remote reps to activate on it, and his shield booster didn't activate until he was into armor, IIRC. In other words, the lag was hitting us, too. We just sat there and kept jamming our buttons. Fights like this, BTW, are the reason everyone should use lasers. --P you did all that without smacking, didn't hurt to bad did it ? well done, keep that up and i might actually converse with you in future Originally by: Saladin Edit: I never post disclaimers in any of my more contrversial posts because I think anyone who thinks I am speaking for anyone other than myself is a muppet anyways.
bulabuba Gallente Klima Galactic	Posted - 2007.10.04 19:12:00 - [278] Originally by: Malachon Draco What are you smoking? BoB lost another station today in Feyth. FAT is just 1 system in 1 warzone. Whatever happens doesn't affect morale much for anyone I think. If it did, BoB would have crumbled after 66- or other systems in Omist they lost after fighting hard to keep it. Well, lets see: I'm smoking the stuff that tells me IAC folding would be much bigger strategically and psychologically in this conflict than the epic conquest of the mighty Red Moon Federation that Goon has been crowing about so comically. No offense to RMF, I'm sure they're fine players, but I'm also sure that they'd be the first to admit that they aren't first order players in this game that IAC are. I'm smoking the stuff that tells me that if IAC loses their space despite the determined combined defense of the Russians, AAA, TCF, and IAC combined, it shows that the alliance can gain ground wherever they focus no matter what the coalition throws at them. If the alliance fails, it will show that they cannot gain ground against the main Coalition fleet, the impact of which, again, would be huge. I'm smoking the stuff that tells me that the coalition obviously sees FAT as the strategic battle based on how they are deployed. Otherwise they'd leave IAF to defend their own space and send their whole fleet to tear up Feyth. All this wannabe propaganda by the Goons trying to get some attention just isn't working. As leet as I'm sure they think they are, the aliance just isn't biting. It's pretty obvious where the important action is going on. Someone does need to get a memo down to the Feyth residents that they need to hang together, instead of being hung separately. This stuff about Rise moving to ISS space is just stupidity. ISS, RISE, EXE, and everyone else who lives down there and I presume wants to keep living down there needs to unify under one command and take it to the Goons as one force and put the their ass in a sling, or at least slow them up so that they have less to crow about while the important work is happening further north. BoB isn't coming to help you, but by the same token, Red and AAA are too busy to help Goon too, and they aren't much without them. Cowboy up and take it to them together, instead of letting them displace you one at a time. ----------------------------------------------- Are GoonSwarm ever going to be allowed to build up in any way in 0.0 space again? No. -DB Preacher[BoB]
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.04 19:29:00 - [279] majority of IAC in this thread really need to stay off the forums http://eve.klaki.net/
Hexman The Ankou The Reckoning.	Posted - 2007.10.04 20:36:00 - [280] windows and MS sql server are bad, mkay? AmigaOS and uhm...dbase are good. Even if they dont work together meh (I'm bored, anyone notice this?)

Hellaciouss Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.04 20:41:00 - [281] Originally by: bulabuba Someone does need to get a memo down to the Feyth residents that they need to hang together, instead of being hung separately. This stuff about Rise moving to ISS space is just stupidity. ISS, RISE, EXE, and everyone else who lives down there and I presume wants to keep living down there needs to unify under one command and take it to the Goons as one force and put the their ass in a sling, or at least slow them up and keep them pinned down in Feyth so that they have less to crow about and aren't able to help their allies while the important work is happening further north. BoB isn't coming to help you, but by the same token, Red and AAA are too busy to help Goon too, and they aren't much without them. Cowboy up and take it to them together, instead of letting them displace you one at a time. You see, ISS and RISE can't help down south as they've been ordered by BoB to help take FAT. The Alliance is throwing absolutely every possible body they can into FAT, and their not taking it anywhere near as fast as they had hoped and planned. Anyway, I think I'll take a break from posting, as I don't want to get whipped by the ebil slave driver Tyrrax.
William Hernandez Mushin Market	Posted - 2007.10.04 22:52:00 - [282] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk majority of IAC in this thread really need to stay off the forums QFT Bottom line is that for the last few days no IAC or there frinds dare undock or enter system or be podded. Last to do so, AAA lost 2 cap ships and killed none
Sionn Klorgh Minmatar The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.10.05 00:05:00 - [283] Edited by: Sionn Klorgh on 05/10/2007 00:05:15 Quote: QFT Bottom line is that for the last few days no IAC or there frinds dare undock or enter system or be podded. Last to do so, AAA lost 2 cap ships and killed none EDIT: IAC has sovergnty in the system Right. The reality of the situation is that while FAT still stands and its pos stand more or less intact after the latest MC/BOB/friend push, your entire front around you collapses from a lack of defense elsewhere.
Scavok GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.05 00:22:00 - [284] Originally by: bulabuba Someone does need to get a memo down to the Feyth residents that they need to hang together, instead of being hung separately. This stuff about Rise moving to ISS space is just stupidity. ISS, RISE, EXE, and everyone else who lives down there and I presume wants to keep living down there needs to unify under one command and take it to the Goons as one force and put the their ass in a sling, or at least slow them up and keep them pinned down in Feyth so that they have less to crow about and aren't able to help their allies while the important work is happening further north. BoB isn't coming to help you, but by the same token, Red and AAA are too busy to help Goon too, and they aren't much without them. Cowboy up and take it to them together, instead of letting them displace you one at a time. Quotin' this. Feyth is a lonely, lonely place, and Goons suck without their russian overlords. There's not much logic involved in fighting a fight for an alliance that's not going to help you at all while you lose your home.
Philippe Alumeres PPN United Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.10.05 01:18:00 - [285] Originally by: Damir36 Well Pilk, I think I remember shooting you once... but the Guys you mentioned above, in difference to you they never owned a complete Region Oh ****, for this comment I will get yelled at by my CEO, but I read Pilk once to often now. Well, shouting at you would not change the fact that Pilk is talking trash. Things did not change much since the Impass campaign. He was clueless then as much as he is now. Anyway, please, no PPN United posting in this thread, thanks.
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.10.05 02:32:00 - [286] Edited by: Pilk on 05/10/2007 02:36:39 Originally by: Philippe Alumeres Originally by: Damir36 Well Pilk, I think I remember shooting you once... but the Guys you mentioned above, in difference to you they never owned a complete Region Oh **, for this comment I will get yelled at by my CEO, but I read Pilk once to often now. Well, shouting at you would not change the fact that Pilk is talking trash. Things did not change much since the Impass campaign. He was clueless then as much as he is now. Anyway, please, no PPN United posting in this thread, thanks. Dude, you have less than NEGATIVE three hundred points on your own alliance's killboard. At least show up on the field of battle--longer than it takes to get doomsdayed, anyway, which is your only appearance on an allied keyboard in the last ten months--before you smack me. Alternately, include something concrete in your smack: Pilk smells funny, or Pilk is a jackass to everyone on TS when acting as FC, or SOMETHING. "Pilk is clueless" doesn't say much; about what am I clueless, exactly? --P Kosh*: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.*
Linavin Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.05 02:34:00 - [287] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk majority of IAC in this thread really need to stay off the forums Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk need to stay off the forums Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk off the forums ---
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.10.05 03:04:00 - [288] Originally by: Linavin Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk majority of IAC in this thread really need to stay off the forums Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk need to stay off the forums Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk off the forums What is this "off the forums" you speak of? Wait, there is a game outside the forums? WHY WAS I NOT TOLD THIS??? 23 Member EVE Video makers: save bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder! (updated)
Pnuka Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.05 03:09:00 - [289] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Linavin Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk majority of IAC in this thread really need to stay off the forums Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk need to stay off the forums Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk off the forums What is this "off the forums" you speak of? Wait, there is a game outside the forums? WHY WAS I NOT TOLD THIS??? Hey, aren't you like the Warren Buffet of Eve?
tartrus Templars of Space Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.05 03:47:00 - [290] do we hav a kills/losses yet r is this still going ? pls tell me bob failed :D I would rather fight bob than old friends. personal feelings aside

Miko Tanagi Amarr The Collective	Posted - 2007.10.07 12:18:00 - [291] Wow, new tactic for BoB in FAT. As hostiles are jumping in, they are convo spamming them. Way to go RKK, your members are a class act. Bellon, especially you...
Cvuos GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.07 12:23:00 - [292] Originally by: Miko Tanagi As hostiles are jumping in, they are convo spamming them. Petition this, seriously!
Ezoran DuBlaidd Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.10.07 12:30:00 - [293] Originally by: Cvuos Originally by: Miko Tanagi As hostiles are jumping in, they are convo spamming them. Petition this, seriously! that is hilarious. screens or it's not happened
Hellaciouss Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.07 14:29:00 - [294] I just got home and I can't log into FAT \o/. I love paying for something I can't play \o/ Anyone have the numbers in FAT?
Proxay Gallente Fallen Angel's Blade.	Posted - 2007.10.07 14:34:00 - [295] Edited by: Proxay on 07/10/2007 14:36:46 Originally by: Hellaciouss I just got home and I can't log into FAT \o/. I love paying for something I can't play \o/ Anyone have the numbers in FAT? 765 in local... Pic1 Pic2 Pic3 Pic4 As you can see, it's boring PewPew today. stop nuking my sig Kruel :P Nuffin but luv - Kreul
Arshes Nei Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.10.07 14:35:00 - [296] Originally by: Hellaciouss I just got home and I can't log into FAT \o/. I love paying for something I can't play \o/ Anyone have the numbers in FAT? Last count before i crashed was far above 600. Obviously once you crash you cant log back in soo ... yeah im ****ed.
Capt Rapace Alpha Production Technologies Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.07 14:37:00 - [297] Crashed as the 'cap fleet' warped into the POS. (Only saw 5 interceptors for about 10 minutes). Can't log back in.
Maksiim Doom and Gloom	Posted - 2007.10.07 14:42:00 - [298] Its like 'Never get out of the boat' but different in that its NEVER LOG OFF IF LAGGED OUT, Some people don't get it. FanFest is for...
Arshes Nei Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.10.07 14:43:00 - [299] Originally by: Maksiim Its like 'Never get out of the boat' but different in that its NEVER LOG OFF IF LAGGED OUT, Some people don't get it. And some people dont get that crashing usually does not imply consent or having any choice about it.
coeathal vega Gallente Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.10.07 14:44:00 - [300] local topped out at 777.... oh joy ----



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