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Anton Marx
Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 18:48:00 -
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ok I would normally never do this and I'm creating a thread for the first time on these forums, but I just had to say it... LAG IN FAT IS ABSOLUTELY MONSTROUS! I am frozen for the past 30 minutes.
Local was up to 670 and dropped down to 550...
Huge fight going on at a now-destroyed Umbra POS
More intel coming as people alt+tab in frustration...
- Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate -
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Dave White
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.10.03 18:49:00 -
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kk
Originally by: GM Tacgnol Oveur descended from the heavens (also known as the second floor) and beat us all with his nerfbat. 
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Charlie Crocodile
Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.10.03 18:50:00 -
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I've been trying to login for the past 30 mins, no luck whatsoever. Signature inappropriate for Teen rated forum. Mail us at [email protected] if you require further information - Valorem |

Chip2k3
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.10.03 18:50:00 -
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Edited by: Chip2k3 on 03/10/2007 18:54:01 i'm a big noob
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Nightsabre
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Posted - 2007.10.03 18:51:00 -
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FAT lag in FAT eh...
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Dalilia Emeraldfire
RONA Corporation FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 18:51:00 -
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Originally by: Chip2k3 if you dont ever post then why do you have a forum sig? 
Actually, he said he has never created a thread. He didn't say he never posted. 
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Rochel Hakiri
principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 18:52:00 -
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He was talking about creating a thread, anyways CCP : Welp!!!
40 minutes and counting ...
lemme play ma game please
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Chip2k3
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.10.03 18:54:00 -
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Originally by: Dalilia Emeraldfire
Originally by: Chip2k3 if you dont ever post then why do you have a forum sig? 
Actually, he said he has never created a thread. He didn't say he never posted. 
good point
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Shirokko Papshimar
Gallente SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 18:54:00 -
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i can also confirm this im trying to login in fat and all i have had is a black screen for 30mins ..
please dont primery me 
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Anton Marx
Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 18:55:00 -
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I wouldn't normally whine
And I never said I don't post, I said I never created a thread
Think before you troll, mmk?
- Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate -
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bauke jacob
Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 18:55:00 -
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ccp has to fix the lag problems you cant call this a fight 
And you think i have an anger problem? |

Ms Tolarri
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 18:55:00 -
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OMG I LOCKED SOMETHING!1!1!1
AND IM SHOOTING IT!1!1
OMFG! I R WINNING THIS WARZ FOR MY TEAM!
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xMillz
Dark Blade Incorporated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 18:55:00 -
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Yep... Got kicked.. and now cannot get back in... 45 mins and still waiting
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Tappits
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 18:55:00 -
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Go go iac + blues kill a pod for me (or a titan for that matter) and i will have a pint for you :)
-I suck at pvp but that does not stop me from poping your pod :) |

Chip2k3
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.10.03 18:57:00 -
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hmmmm, it's all IAC that cant login, BoB seem fine? dev h4x theories anyone?
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Major Stormer
Caldari Copperhead Inc. Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.03 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: Chip2k3 hmmmm, it's all IAC that cant login, BoB seem fine? dev h4x theories anyone?
I vote your a noob :P
Originally by: SirMolle Excuse me? BoB slave corp?
k, if thats what you wish, you just got your wish granted. Forever.
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Nlewis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.03 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: Chip2k3 hmmmm, it's all IAC that cant login, BoB seem fine? dev h4x theories anyone?
of course
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Enochia Starr
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.03 18:59:00 -
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Originally by: Chip2k3 hmmmm, it's all IAC that cant login, BoB seem fine? dev h4x theories anyone?
your kidding right
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Andargor theWise
Collateral Damage Unlimited Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:00:00 -
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I have work-lag. 
Seriously, this sux for everyone.  - Stop the Feature Glut: Take the API to the Next Level
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Shirokko Papshimar
Gallente SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: Enochia Starr
Originally by: Chip2k3 hmmmm, it's all IAC that cant login, BoB seem fine? dev h4x theories anyone?
your kidding right
indeed its everyone :(
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Timmehh
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:01:00 -
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haha woot! the IAC/-A- fleet just got doomsdayed |

Ezoran DuBlaidd
Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Enochia Starr
Originally by: Chip2k3 hmmmm, it's all IAC that cant login, BoB seem fine? dev h4x theories anyone?
your kidding right
i believe our alliance should not post in this thread.
my thoughts may or may not be the feelings of my corp, alliance and/or God.
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Hellaciouss
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:02:00 -
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There is no fight. No one can reload weapons. Epic Fail on CCP's part.
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OmegaKnight
The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:03:00 -
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Poor Fat, was such a nice neighborhood, now its gone down hill.
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Urgomar
Four Rings D-L
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: Hellaciouss There is no fight. No one can reload weapons. Epic Fail on CCP's part.
Is it finally the Amarr boost ?
Amarr would be better at lagged fleet fights because they dont need to reload their weapons ! Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected]) |

Chip2k3
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:04:00 -
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I was just lolling at you all, unable to login, no seriousness in the comment
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Shirokko Papshimar
Gallente SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:04:00 -
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i know we all pay enough real money for ccp to get decent hardware but who is intrested in chipping in ú5 to sort this out once and for all??

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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:06:00 -
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I don't think anyone doomsdayed
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Tinky Winkey
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:07:00 -
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What fight in FAT been trying to log back in for 35 minutes after dropping!!!!!!! CCP please forget any more new sparkley bits and concentrate on letting us play what we already have but can't
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MINERALMAN
UA Industry Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:07:00 -
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"lag? what lag?.....server is working fine " "I Guess it's cause of your provider and PC problem"
PS. I spend a lot of free time in EVE... can i ask a question? FOR WHAT? for that lags? PS 2 . Oy Hil... do something with your hardware faster as you can mate 
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OmegaKnight
The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:07:00 -
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See this is what happens when yall try and out do jita.
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CrazyDK
Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:08:00 -
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LAG THERE IS NO LAG IN FAT THAT IS ALL CCP WILL SAY THER SERVER SUCKS RUNNING ON VIC20 COMPUTER
FIX THIS LAG FFS
LOVE CRAZYDK I LOVE LAG |

xMillz
Dark Blade Incorporated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:09:00 -
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Heres an idea CCP... FIX THE LAG ISSUE!
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xBlood
Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:09:00 -
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Sucks dudes.
Question: are capitals involved in any form?
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CrazyDK
Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:09:00 -
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LAG THERE IS NO LAG IN FAT THAT IS ALL CCP WILL SAY THER SERVER SUCKS RUNNING ON VIC20 COMPUTER
FIX THIS LAG FFS
LOVE CRAZYDK I LOVE LAG |

Nlewis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk I don't think anyone doomsdayed
the servers did
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bauke jacob
Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:09:00 -
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\o/ crazy ftw 
And you think i have an anger problem? |

Hellaciouss
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: xBlood Sucks dudes.
Question: are capitals involved in any form?
Yes. Combined fleets were on all of the McBoB capitals. Unfortunately no one was able to reload to finish off the one dread that was put to 30% hull. Once people started having to reload it's armor/shields started going back up from the carriers. No one has been able to reload since.
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Chip2k3
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:13:00 -
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Edited by: Chip2k3 on 03/10/2007 19:15:00 God ya gotta lol at the morons who think you can get 600 people in 1 system and have no lag. Ya dont like it then only bring 50 V 50 asshats
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xBlood
Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Chip2k3 God ya gotta lol at the morons who think you can get 600 people in 1 system and have no lag. Ya dont like it then briong 50 V 50 only asshats
Is this like...the 5th time you've trolled in one thread? gotta be a record 
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Isabel Sweet
Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:14:00 -
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we need more hamsters
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Phear meh
Blackbeards
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:15:00 -
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here's an idea.. dont put almost 700 people and ships in a single system. \ ccp doesnt have to and shouldnt do a dam thing to help you. its your fault ya jump into it. everyone knows jita lags..
imo just allow 100 people tops in a system.. this old crap of blob warfare is just sickning. lrn2play omg my Charity Regard sig is gone :(((( |

Chip2k3
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: xBlood
Originally by: Chip2k3 God ya gotta lol at the morons who think you can get 600 people in 1 system and have no lag. Ya dont like it then briong 50 V 50 only asshats
Is this like...the 5th time you've trolled in one thread? gotta be a record 
Bored ftw
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Victor Mason
Minmatar The Fated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:16:00 -
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Need some more server power for FAT and with the fight going for so long now about 2-3 weeks its really stupid of CCP NOT to give FAT and server to its self... Or at least one faster than a 486 SX25....
Vic
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Chip2k3
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: Phear meh here's an idea.. dont put almost 700 people and ships in a single system. \ ccp doesnt have to and shouldnt do a dam thing to help you. its your fault ya jump into it. everyone knows jita lags..
imo just allow 100 people tops in a system.. this old crap of blob warfare is just sickning. lrn2play
Thats what I said and got called a troll! :'(
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Timmehh
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: xBlood
Originally by: Chip2k3 God ya gotta lol at the morons who think you can get 600 people in 1 system and have no lag. Ya dont like it then briong 50 V 50 only asshats
Is this like...the 5th time you've trolled in one thread? gotta be a record 
it's not trolling. it's facts |

Toffles
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:17:00 -
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This is all BoB's fault for consolidating everything onto one front.
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Nlewis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Chip2k3
Originally by: Phear meh here's an idea.. dont put almost 700 people and ships in a single system. \ ccp doesnt have to and shouldnt do a dam thing to help you. its your fault ya jump into it. everyone knows jita lags..
imo just allow 100 people tops in a system.. this old crap of blob warfare is just sickning. lrn2play
Thats what I said and got called a troll! :'(
maybe no one likes you
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Hellaciouss
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Phear meh here's an idea.. dont put almost 700 people and ships in a single system. \ ccp doesnt have to and shouldnt do a dam thing to help you. its your fault ya jump into it. everyone knows jita lags..
imo just allow 100 people tops in a system.. this old crap of blob warfare is just sickning. lrn2play
Yep, what a good ******* idea. Tell 98% of your alliance they're not allowed to ******* help defend their home. Good ******* idea! Why didn't anyone else ******* think of this!
Phear meh for #1 Dev.
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Enochia Starr
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:17:00 -
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Edited by: Enochia Starr on 03/10/2007 19:17:36
Originally by: Phear meh here's an idea.. dont put almost 700 people and ships in a single system. \ ccp doesnt have to and shouldnt do a dam thing to help you. its your fault ya jump into it. everyone knows jita lags..
imo just allow 100 people tops in a system.. this old crap of blob warfare is just sickning. lrn2play
Then CCP should have designed a game in such a way that you didnt NEED a local of 700 to take or defend a system. So yes its ALL CCP faults.
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Attak
Trioptimum FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: Isabel Sweet we need more hamsters
omw
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Validor
International Multi-Player Consortium Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:24:00 -
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cap ships involved?
you tell me.
Linkage
and
Linkage
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Hellaciouss
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:25:00 -
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Originally by: Timmehh
Originally by: Hellaciouss
Originally by: Phear meh here's an idea.. dont put almost 700 people and ships in a single system. \ ccp doesnt have to and shouldnt do a dam thing to help you. its your fault ya jump into it. everyone knows jita lags..
imo just allow 100 people tops in a system.. this old crap of blob warfare is just sickning. lrn2play
Yep, what a good ******* idea. Tell 98% of your alliance they're not allowed to ******* help defend their home. Good ******* idea! Why didn't anyone else ******* think of this!
Phear meh for #1 Dev.
i see a lot of stars bitter?
Me? Bitter? Na. As some forum alt above just sayed, Mc and BoB only managed to kill one PoS out of the 11 that came out over the past two days. I'm just sad we didn't get to completely *****their capital fleet because no one could reload.
I guess you could say I am bitter?
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Bluebear8
Orion Ore International Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:29:00 -
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But, of course we have lag in FAT.
BoB told all its friends they have to appear today or face a rental increase.
IAC told all its members ... FREE DRINKS!
EPIC battles ... deserve EPIC posts ...
You all know, CCP planned it this way... While you wait to relog, you should enjoy this thread to find out who is winning today's FORUM battle! 
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jernej
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: Hellaciouss
Originally by: Timmehh
Originally by: Hellaciouss
Originally by: Phear meh here's an idea.. dont put almost 700 people and ships in a single system. \ ccp doesnt have to and shouldnt do a dam thing to help you. its your fault ya jump into it. everyone knows jita lags..
imo just allow 100 people tops in a system.. this old crap of blob warfare is just sickning. lrn2play
Yep, what a good ******* idea. Tell 98% of your alliance they're not allowed to ******* help defend their home. Good ******* idea! Why didn't anyone else ******* think of this!
Phear meh for #1 Dev.
i see a lot of stars bitter?
Me? Bitter? Na. As some forum alt above just sayed, Mc and BoB only managed to kill one PoS out of the 11 that came out over the past two days. I'm just sad we didn't get to completely *****their capital fleet because no one could reload.
I guess you could say I am bitter?
We didn't reload either. We only used amarr ships. Nerf amarr.
Oh and I think I pwned tempest at some point, but mail didn't load yet 
Originally by: Evil Thug ...is barely possible due to imbalanced location agents. We managed to get bob only twice with login trap...
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Wainak
Amarr Warhamsters Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:29:00 -
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SERVER IS WORKING FINE! NO LAG @ ALL!
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Nlewis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: jernej
Originally by: Hellaciouss
Originally by: Timmehh
Originally by: Hellaciouss
Originally by: Phear meh here's an idea.. dont put almost 700 people and ships in a single system. \ ccp doesnt have to and shouldnt do a dam thing to help you. its your fault ya jump into it. everyone knows jita lags..
imo just allow 100 people tops in a system.. this old crap of blob warfare is just sickning. lrn2play
Yep, what a good ******* idea. Tell 98% of your alliance they're not allowed to ******* help defend their home. Good ******* idea! Why didn't anyone else ******* think of this!
Phear meh for #1 Dev.
i see a lot of stars bitter?
Me? Bitter? Na. As some forum alt above just sayed, Mc and BoB only managed to kill one PoS out of the 11 that came out over the past two days. I'm just sad we didn't get to completely *****their capital fleet because no one could reload.
I guess you could say I am bitter?
We didn't reload either. We only used amarr ships. Nerf amarr.
Oh and I think I pwned tempest at some point, but mail didn't load yet 
wrong alliance. it would make more sense if this reply was toward goons
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Lionel Richie
The Commodores
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:32:00 -
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As Journey said "Don't stop believin' Hold on to that feelin" maybe IAC will win a battle someday. |

Silvestri
Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:33:00 -
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I sure as hell better see alot of reimbursements and not lag issues. I'm 0-3 from these so called game creators on reimbursements with the answer "There is no error found on our server".....FFS I wanna slap CCP in the head...
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Phear meh
Blackbeards
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:34:00 -
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Linkage
use this in FAT.. im sure it will fix everything omg my Charity Regard sig is gone :(((( |
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Peroptris
White Star Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:34:00 -
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for the idiot who stated that its the fleets involved fault for bringing blobs how exactly do u plan for this game to work? We all agree blobbing isnt much fun and causes huge lag BUT simply saying dont bring blobs is ridiculous...ok lets all just sit here and twiddle our thumbs because u cant take down pos with small numbers and u cant expect the defenders to just go oh damn u guys were here first with ur gang we wont out blob u. How is 100 people limit going to work? all the major alliances can now bring 100 pilots easily so all they need to do is keep their system full when pos come out of reinforced and they are 100% safe because hostiles cant get in due limit. Blobs suck, blobs cause lag but rite now because ccp hasnt got a server that can handle them AND they havent come up with a way to make blobs less necessary IT IS 100% their problem and fault. Blaming bob, iac, goons, whoever is idiocy. they are playing the cards ccp dealt them.
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Timmehh
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: Wainak SERVER IS WORKING FINE! NO LAG @ ALL!
I feel your pain man. that is a terrible way to die |

Ezoran DuBlaidd
Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:37:00 -
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Edited by: Ezoran DuBlaidd on 03/10/2007 19:38:03 damnit, i said no posting in this thread and i meant me!
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Setana Manoro
Gallente Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:38:00 -
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Edited by: Setana Manoro on 03/10/2007 19:39:49
Originally by: Phear meh here's an idea.. dont put almost 700 people and ships in a single system. \ ccp doesnt have to and shouldnt do a dam thing to help you. its your fault ya jump into it. everyone knows jita lags..
imo just allow 100 people tops in a system.. this old crap of blob warfare is just sickning. lrn2play
Actually ... it is CCP's fault. CCP have made the current game mechanics where it takes 2 months to take a system instead of 1 week possible, they changed it. If they had just nerfed the supercaps and kept the old no-sov system, then these fights would be much-much-much shorter. But no, ccp made them longer because war keeps stuff interesting, keeps ppl paying, keeps money coming in their pockets, keeps resources spent - ppl actually lose 20 capitals and a super cap to take a system with a station now.
Yes, you are that stupid and don't have the ability to see the bigger picture; stop posting now !
I'm not neutral in RAGOON vs BOB, I just dislike both sides. :) |

Silvestri
Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Peroptris for the idiot who stated that its the fleets involved fault for bringing blobs how exactly do u plan for this game to work? We all agree blobbing isnt much fun and causes huge lag BUT simply saying dont bring blobs is ridiculous...ok lets all just sit here and twiddle our thumbs because u cant take down pos with small numbers and u cant expect the defenders to just go oh damn u guys were here first with ur gang we wont out blob u. How is 100 people limit going to work? all the major alliances can now bring 100 pilots easily so all they need to do is keep their system full when pos come out of reinforced and they are 100% safe because hostiles cant get in due limit. Blobs suck, blobs cause lag but rite now because ccp hasnt got a server that can handle them AND they havent come up with a way to make blobs less necessary IT IS 100% their problem and fault. Blaming bob, iac, goons, whoever is idiocy. they are playing the cards ccp dealt them.
FINALLY....I found intelligence....I really like the..."oh damn you were here first"...lmao.
Got to admit. It's seriously sad that a game operates like this. 
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Gontard
Minmatar E-Truth
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:39:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Bluebear8
BoB told all its friends they have to appear today or face a rental increase.
IAC told all its members ... FREE DRINKS!
All your alliance is as ******** as you ?
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Phear meh
Blackbeards
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:40:00 -
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Originally by: Peroptris for the idiot who stated that its the fleets involved fault for bringing blobs how exactly do u plan for this game to work? We all agree blobbing isnt much fun and causes huge lag BUT simply saying dont bring blobs is ridiculous...ok lets all just sit here and twiddle our thumbs because u cant take down pos with small numbers and u cant expect the defenders to just go oh damn u guys were here first with ur gang we wont out blob u. How is 100 people limit going to work? all the major alliances can now bring 100 pilots easily so all they need to do is keep their system full when pos come out of reinforced and they are 100% safe because hostiles cant get in due limit. Blobs suck, blobs cause lag but rite now because ccp hasnt got a server that can handle them AND they havent come up with a way to make blobs less necessary IT IS 100% their problem and fault. Blaming bob, iac, goons, whoever is idiocy. they are playing the cards ccp dealt them.
they play their cards because they want to. no one made them jump into FAT and in the middle of a huge battle and truly expect to not be lagged out..
lag all ya want, blob all ya want, just dont expect the rest of us to CARE. everyone knows jita lags with 500 people... suddenly you think your special for wanting to kill a pos or fleet..and deserve a special favor?
lrn2play omg my Charity Regard sig is gone :(((( |

Silvestri
Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:41:00 -
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Edited by: Silvestri on 03/10/2007 19:41:47
Originally by: Gontard
Originally by: Bluebear8
BoB told all its friends they have to appear today or face a rental increase.
IAC told all its members ... FREE DRINKS!
All your alliance is as ******** as you ?
I'm guessing the word that is bleaped out is....... hungover?? Do I win?
Edit: How many of you just checked to see if hungover fits???  
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Nlewis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:41:00 -
[69]
Edited by: Nlewis on 03/10/2007 19:42:01
Originally by: Silvestri
Originally by: Gontard
Originally by: Bluebear8
BoB told all its friends they have to appear today or face a rental increase.
IAC told all its members ... FREE DRINKS!
All your alliance is as ******** as you ?
I'm guessing the word that is bleaped out is....... hungover?? Do I win?
if you hit quote you can see what they said. but your answer is much more fitting
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Ms Tolarri
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:41:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Wainak SERVER IS WORKING FINE! NO LAG @ ALL!
You really shouldn't be running a Widescreen monitor with a single-core CPU. It will kill your performance.
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Nlewis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:43:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Ms Tolarri
Originally by: Wainak SERVER IS WORKING FINE! NO LAG @ ALL!
You really shouldn't be running a Widescreen monitor with a single-core CPU. It will kill your performance.
what
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xBlood
Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:43:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Validor cap ships involved?
you tell me.
Linkage
and
Linkage
holy poo 
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Silvestri
Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:43:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Nlewis Edited by: Nlewis on 03/10/2007 19:42:01
Originally by: Silvestri
Originally by: Gontard
Originally by: Bluebear8
BoB told all its friends they have to appear today or face a rental increase.
IAC told all its members ... FREE DRINKS!
All your alliance is as ******** as you ?
I'm guessing the word that is bleaped out is....... hungover?? Do I win?
if you hit quote you can see what they said. but your answer is much more fitting
I know but....just being ********....
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Ms Tolarri
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:43:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Nlewis
Originally by: Ms Tolarri
Originally by: Wainak SERVER IS WORKING FINE! NO LAG @ ALL!
You really shouldn't be running a Widescreen monitor with a single-core CPU. It will kill your performance.
what
Less pixels = less effort
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Zyta Eke
Bombshell Cartel
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:45:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Phear meh suddenly you think your special for wanting to kill a pos or fleet..and deserve a special favor?
What do you expect BoB and IAC to do? Get together and agree to bring 50 people each for a POS killing? 
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Wainak
Amarr Warhamsters Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:45:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Ms Tolarri
Originally by: Wainak SERVER IS WORKING FINE! NO LAG @ ALL!
You really shouldn't be running a Widescreen monitor with a single-core CPU. It will kill your performance.
umm actually i have core quad 6600(o/c up to 3Mhz) and 10Mbit (both in and out) internet connection. please dont tell me about my connectivity and hardware :)
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Ezoran DuBlaidd
Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:47:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Nlewis Edited by: Nlewis on 03/10/2007 19:42:01
Originally by: Silvestri
Originally by: Gontard
Originally by: Bluebear8
BoB told all its friends they have to appear today or face a rental increase.
IAC told all its members ... FREE DRINKS!
All your alliance is as ******** as you ?
I'm guessing the word that is bleaped out is....... hungover?? Do I win?
if you hit quote you can see what they said. but your answer is much more fitting
he said ********
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Hellaciouss
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:47:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Wainak
Originally by: Ms Tolarri
Originally by: Wainak SERVER IS WORKING FINE! NO LAG @ ALL!
You really shouldn't be running a Widescreen monitor with a single-core CPU. It will kill your performance.
umm actually i have core quad 6600(o/c up to 3Mhz) and 10Mbit (both in and out) internet connection. please dont tell me about my connectivity and hardware :)
It's ok Wainak, some people actually think CCP is right when they say it's not their servers that are messing up. When you can't reload your weapons for 30+ minutes obviously it's YOUR PC that is completely screwed, not the server.
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Maximus Maridius
Gallente Navy Special Forces
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:47:00 -
[79]
MY GOD! ITS A MIRACLE!
NO GOON POSTS!
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:48:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Ms Tolarri
Originally by: Wainak SERVER IS WORKING FINE! NO LAG @ ALL!
You really shouldn't be running a Widescreen monitor with a single-core CPU. It will kill your performance.
No logic on that sentence. The rasterization is made on the last stage of the pipeline of your video card> that is the ONLY stage where resolution on ANY game have ANY influence on performance.
If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough |
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Ezoran DuBlaidd
Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:49:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Maximus Maridius MY GOD! ITS A MIRACLE!
NO GOON POSTS!
are you drunk?
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Lionel Richie
The Commodores
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:50:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Wainak
Originally by: Ms Tolarri
Originally by: Wainak SERVER IS WORKING FINE! NO LAG @ ALL!
You really shouldn't be running a Widescreen monitor with a single-core CPU. It will kill your performance.
umm actually i have core quad 6600(o/c up to 3Mhz) and 10Mbit (both in and out) internet connection. please dont tell me about my connectivity and hardware :)
yewr connectz suckz and yewr hardwarez suckz evenmorezzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:50:00 -
[83]
I feel for the hamsters.
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Phear meh
Blackbeards
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:50:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Zyta Eke
Originally by: Phear meh suddenly you think your special for wanting to kill a pos or fleet..and deserve a special favor?
What do you expect BoB and IAC to do? Get together and agree to bring 50 people each for a POS killing? 
personally i don't care what BOB and anyone does. just dont ***** here and expect to be cuddled like a 2 year old who throws a tantrum.
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Nlewis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:54:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Ms Tolarri
Originally by: Nlewis
Originally by: Ms Tolarri
Originally by: Wainak SERVER IS WORKING FINE! NO LAG @ ALL!
You really shouldn't be running a Widescreen monitor with a single-core CPU. It will kill your performance.
what
Less pixels = less effort
please cite some sources
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xBlood
Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:54:00 -
[86]
I think some people want eve to be like:
'After you old chap.' 'Not at all dear sir, you first' 'What jolly good weather' etc etc.
Fact is...blobs are needed to defend and to attack. The end.
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Void Seller
All In Enterprise
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:57:00 -
[87]
Lag is good, hello
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Ezoran DuBlaidd
Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:59:00 -
[88]
Originally by: xBlood I think some people want eve to be like:
'After you old chap.' 'Not at all dear sir, you first' 'What jolly good weather' etc etc.
Fact is...blobs are needed to defend and to attack. The end.
qft, even though someone with an "opinion" opines otherwise.
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Timmehh
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:02:00 -
[89]
Edited by: Timmehh on 03/10/2007 20:02:33
Originally by: Wainak
Originally by: Ms Tolarri
Originally by: Wainak SERVER IS WORKING FINE! NO LAG @ ALL!
You really shouldn't be running a Widescreen monitor with a single-core CPU. It will kill your performance.
umm actually i have core quad 6600(o/c up to 3Mhz) and 10Mbit (both in and out) internet connection. please dont tell me about my connectivity and hardware :)
What a slow connection you got there  but clearly you have not configured it right. you need this: -RJ10 cables -clock the cpu to 175% -modify bios to overload FSB -disable norton antivirus -before a fight, hit ctrl+alt+e then ctrl+alt+t and then ctrl+q
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Optical Nerve
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:02:00 -
[90]
I can't describe the fustration about this game when involving alliance vs. alliance clashes. Why did they in CCP even bother to create such into the game when this clearly doesn't work in practice.
Can't you guys at CCP focus on performance now for a while. Buy some epic computing hardware just to house these kinds of 500+ clashes of players?
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Sextus Licinius
Caldari Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:03:00 -
[91]
Edited by: Sextus Licinius on 03/10/2007 20:03:51
Originally by: Chip2k3
"blah blah - pyramid quote style spam - more idiotic comments - more pyramid quote style spam. "
Dude you don't deserve the tag you're wearing and actively disrespecting all the ppl interested in this thread.
"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man" |

Groox
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:03:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Validor
Linkage
Look at the local count # - can't be go(o)d 
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Timmehh
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:06:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Groox
Originally by: Validor
Linkage
Look at the local count # - can't be go(o)d 
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Ms Tolarri
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:07:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Nlewis
Originally by: Ms Tolarri
Originally by: Nlewis
Originally by: Ms Tolarri
Originally by: Wainak SERVER IS WORKING FINE! NO LAG @ ALL!
You really shouldn't be running a Widescreen monitor with a single-core CPU. It will kill your performance.
what
Less pixels = less effort
please cite some sources
Well logically, the fewer pixels there are being told to do things, the less strain it will put on hardware. Running at that resolution on your "core quad 6600(o/c up to 3Mhz)" is going to take more effort than running a resolution which is lower. This is also why Anti-Aliasing reduces FPS - 2x AA will render at twice the size and scale it down, giving it smoother edges. 6x AA does the same at 6x etc.
And if you do have a Core[b]2[b]Quad 6600, overclocked to 3mhz (lol, I'll overlook this and assume you meant Ghz Underclocking ftw), why not record at full size? Fraps will run at more or less the same speed at that size, due to load being shifted to a different core. Just fyi, I run a core2quad and frapsed that entire 'fight' at full resolution with max effects on, 6x AA, 16x AF and zoomed in quite often, getting 10 - 20 fps.
Kay 
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Nlewis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:07:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Optical Nerve I can't describe the fustration about this game when involving alliance vs. alliance clashes. Why did they in CCP even bother to create such into the game when this clearly doesn't work in practice.
Can't you guys at CCP focus on performance now for a while. Buy some epic computing hardware just to house these kinds of 500+ clashes of players?
I think that I have read that the new engine supposedly will be optimized when it comes to sending info back and forth to the server reducing server load. So if this is correct and it actually will do that, then all this **** may be over with shortly
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Optical Nerve
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:12:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Nlewis
Originally by: Optical Nerve I can't describe the fustration about this game when involving alliance vs. alliance clashes. Why did they in CCP even bother to create such into the game when this clearly doesn't work in practice.
Can't you guys at CCP focus on performance now for a while. Buy some epic computing hardware just to house these kinds of 500+ clashes of players?
I think that I have read that the new engine supposedly will be optimized when it comes to sending info back and forth to the server reducing server load. So if this is correct and it actually will do that, then all this **** may be over with shortly
That would be just awesome. Imagine, you if you could actually activate a module within a minute. :D
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:12:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Ms Tolarri 2x AA will render at twice the size and scale it down, giving it smoother edges. 6x AA does the same at 6x etc.
Fail, learn what multisampling does. Nobody seriously uses supersampling anymore 
23 Member
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Boomershoot
Caldari Insurgent New Eden Tribe Deus Ex.
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:13:00 -
[98]
how's the battle goin'?
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Ms Tolarri
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:14:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Boomershoot how's the battle goin'?
post sum pics
It ended a half hour ago 
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Boomershoot
Caldari Insurgent New Eden Tribe Deus Ex.
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:15:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Ms Tolarri
Originally by: Boomershoot how's the battle goin'?
post sum pics
It ended a half hour ago 
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David Miliband
Evil Proctologists
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:15:00 -
[101]
@Wainak: I think I've spotted your problem; your CPU isn't fast enough, I chucked out my 3mhz machine about 15 years ago and bought a new one when Intel released the 10Mhz chip. TBH I'm surprised you can even run eve let alone load fleet battles.
/on topic and more seriously:
Quote: CCP should have designed a game in such a way that you didnt NEED a local of 700 to take or defend a system. So yes its ALL CCP faults.
^^ What he said. the current territorial warfare system sucks fat, hairy donkey balls.
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Nlewis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:15:00 -
[102]
Edited by: Nlewis on 03/10/2007 20:16:20
Originally by: Ms Tolarri
Originally by: Nlewis
Originally by: Ms Tolarri
Originally by: Nlewis
Originally by: Ms Tolarri
Originally by: Wainak SERVER IS WORKING FINE! NO LAG @ ALL!
You really shouldn't be running a Widescreen monitor with a single-core CPU. It will kill your performance.
what
Less pixels = less effort
please cite some sources
Well logically, the fewer pixels there are being told to do things, the less strain it will put on hardware. Running at that resolution on your "core quad 6600(o/c up to 3Mhz)" is going to take more effort than running a resolution which is lower. This is also why Anti-Aliasing reduces FPS - 2x AA will render at twice the size and scale it down, giving it smoother edges. 6x AA does the same at 6x etc.
And if you do have a Core[b]2[b]Quad 6600, overclocked to 3mhz (lol, I'll overlook this and assume you meant Ghz Underclocking ftw), why not record at full size? Fraps will run at more or less the same speed at that size, due to load being shifted to a different core. Just fyi, I run a core2quad and frapsed that entire 'fight' at full resolution with max effects on, 6x AA, 16x AF and zoomed in quite often, getting 10 - 20 fps.
Kay 
1280x1024 has more pixels than 1280x800 and doesn't run any different than 1024x768 in eve. sure you could use full graphics during that fight, eve currently does not use your graphics card and you have a good processor. this has nothing to do with widescreen over non-widescreen. Even with AA and AF running with(outside of) eve, it still shouldn't make much of a difference performance wise since your graphics card already has little to no load put onto it
I tried to edit this into my other post but it wouldn't work for some reason
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lofty29
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:20:00 -
[103]
Edited by: lofty29 on 03/10/2007 20:24:32
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Hummer H3
Irational Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:20:00 -
[104]
I don't know any MMO thats capable of dealing with such a stupid number of players in one place.
Why on earth with BoB+allies tied up in FAT, goons haven't swarmed into Bob homespace and started attempting to drop cyno jammers or reinforce POS instead of putting even more ships into an already overloaded system.
Honestly is there a reason why it makes more sence to Lag FAT that potentially draw BoB back to their homespace?
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Ms Tolarri
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:22:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Hummer H3 Why on earth with BoB+allies tied up in FAT, goons haven't swarmed into Bob homespace and started attempting to drop cyno jammers or reinforce POS instead of putting even more ships into an already overloaded system.
Because I'd imagine BoB are smart enough to adjust stront levels in their towers so that they don't come out of reinforced at the same time as the ones in FAT-.
Of course, they may have just survived 4 years by not being intelligent 
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:22:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Hummer H3 I don't know any MMO thats capable of dealing with such a stupid number of players in one place.
Why on earth with BoB+allies tied up in FAT, goons haven't swarmed into Bob homespace and started attempting to drop cyno jammers or reinforce POS instead of putting even more ships into an already overloaded system.
Honestly is there a reason why it makes more sence to Lag FAT that potentially draw BoB back to their homespace?
Quote of the month in my book me, myself and I ------> |

Ms Tolarri
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:23:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Nlewis 1280x1024 has more pixels than 1280x800 and doesn't run any different than 1024x768 in eve. sure you could use full graphics during that fight, eve currently does not use your graphics card and you have a good processor. this has nothing to do with widescreen over non-widescreen. Even with AA and AF running with(outside of) eve, it still shouldn't make much of a difference performance wise since your graphics card already has little to no load put onto it
I tried to edit this into my other post but it wouldn't work for some reason
/cuts the quote-pyramid
Anyway
"1280x1024 has more pixels than 1280x800 and doesn't run any different than 1024x768." Lawl wtf? It will run slower at a higher resolution, just not noticeably slower. Besides, 1280x800 isn't a widescreen resolution, just a wide aspect ratio. The original res of that video, by doubling the half-size res, is 1680x1048. That's 1.7 million pixels, as opposed to 1024x768 / 1280x800 running at under 1 million. 70% more pixels to render makes no difference?
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Dhip C
Minmatubbies
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:27:00 -
[108]
There is a known issue with EVE client and newer cards, the GPU will heat up to about 75 degrees unless you change a setting in your prefs.ini.
See the Known issue forums.
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Kara Ivanova
Latrocinium Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:29:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Dhip C There is a known issue with EVE client and newer cards, the GPU will heat up to about 75 degrees unless you change a setting in your prefs.ini.
See the Known issue forums.
GPUs, in my eve? Cant be! 
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Silvestri
Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:29:00 -
[110]
You guys really need to quit all this connection speed and MHz.....you're all going to confuse the hell out of CCP....
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Odda
Gallente Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:36:00 -
[111]
So how didd the battle go?
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bulabuba
Gallente Klima Galactic
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:36:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Hummer H3
Why on earth with BoB+allies tied up in FAT, goons haven't swarmed into Bob homespace and started attempting to drop cyno jammers or reinforce POS instead of putting even more ships into an already overloaded system.
Because overloading a system to the point where it lags out and dies works for them. It's the tactic they've been using for at least a year now. Where have you been?
Quote: Honestly is there a reason why it makes more sence to Lag FAT that potentially draw BoB back to their homespace?
Yep, there is a reason. Lagging a system out makes winning and losing more of a crapshoot, and tends to favor the force that had the most people in a system at the time the node died. You can expect to see Goons do this every time the Russians look like they might be in trouble. Why does it make sense? Because, again, it works for them, and has been working for over a year now. The unhappy state of the game is that either side will do what it takes to win, whether that means playing the game, or playing the game mechanics and server limitations.
If it came down to a contest of pure pvp skill, tactics, and strategy, I don't think even the Goons could delude themselves into thinking they'd have much of a chance against MC and BoB. Fortunately for them, it doesn't.
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Are GoonSwarm ever going to be allowed to build up in any way in 0.0 space again? No.
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Xrensa
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:40:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Hummer H3 I don't know any MMO thats capable of dealing with such a stupid number of players in one place.
Why on earth with BoB+allies tied up in FAT, goons haven't swarmed into Bob homespace and started attempting to drop cyno jammers or reinforce POS instead of putting even more ships into an already overloaded system.
Honestly is there a reason why it makes more sence to Lag FAT that potentially draw BoB back to their homespace?
We don't sell out our friends for personal gains. BoB has and always will. That's the difference.
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Karim alRashid
Gallente principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:40:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Bluebear8
BoB told all its friends they have to appear today or face a rental increase.
Honest, the first time I read it as "rectal increase" 
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Caldari citizen40
Caldari Caldari Resistance Fighters
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:46:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Xrensa
Originally by: Hummer H3 ...
We don't sell out our friends for personal gains. BoB has and always will. That's the difference.
Of course not, you only use them for personal gains.. oh no that is the same!! :)
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Carnmire
Caldari Quantum Industries Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:49:00 -
[116]
So the mighty BoB war machine is averaging 1 POS down every two weeks or so? I guess theyre aiming for early '08 sov in FAT.
******************************************** "INVASION"? I prefer Target-Rich Environment Laughter is the sanctuary of the Soul! |

Xrensa
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:50:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Caldari citizen40
Originally by: Xrensa
Originally by: Hummer H3 ...
We don't sell out our friends for personal gains. BoB has and always will. That's the difference.
Of course not, you only use them for personal gains.. oh no that is the same!! :)
Isn't friends helping each other to get some place... the point of friends?
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Liam Galagher
Savey
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:53:00 -
[118]
Originally by: bulabuba
If it came down to a contest of pure pvp skill, tactics, and strategy, I don't think even the Goons could delude themselves into thinking they'd have much of a chance against MC and BoB.
oh, a little bobbit fanboy? how lovely...
iam pretty sure that bob will take any chance of (mis-)using the game mechanics to save face in this war. they dont have any other choice.
but, seriosly, pure pvp skill tactics? come on, are you kidding? getting supercaps into the battlefield and spamming fighters requires pvp skills?
the only group that deserves the title of being "good in pvp tactics" is tripple A at this point, as they¦ve shown with that bigbadaboom recently. any other party is just trying to get along ...
gallente klima galactic...lol _________________________________________
*** i¦ve got the finger on the button *** |

Nlewis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:53:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Ms Tolarri
Originally by: Nlewis 1280x1024 has more pixels than 1280x800 and doesn't run any different than 1024x768 in eve. sure you could use full graphics during that fight, eve currently does not use your graphics card and you have a good processor. this has nothing to do with widescreen over non-widescreen. Even with AA and AF running with(outside of) eve, it still shouldn't make much of a difference performance wise since your graphics card already has little to no load put onto it
I tried to edit this into my other post but it wouldn't work for some reason
/cuts the quote-pyramid
Anyway
"1280x1024 has more pixels than 1280x800 and doesn't run any different than 1024x768." Lawl wtf? It will run slower at a higher resolution, just not noticeably slower. Besides, 1280x800 isn't a widescreen resolution, just a wide aspect ratio. The original res of that video, by doubling the half-size res, is 1680x1048. That's 1.7 million pixels, as opposed to 1024x768 / 1280x800 running at under 1 million. 70% more pixels to render makes no difference?
any other game and I agree with you but we are talking about eve
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:54:00 -
[120]
Edited by: Darcuese on 03/10/2007 20:54:32
Originally by: Carnmire So the mighty BoB war machine is averaging 1 POS down every two weeks or so? I guess theyre aiming for early '08 sov in FAT.
this is about lag and particular fight, no? Sry, i might be wrong. Im sure there are plenty of other threads regarding speed of taking poses down .
But, then again, i guess you just randomly enter a thread and paste something 
me, myself and I ------> |
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Xrensa
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:57:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Darcuese Edited by: Darcuese on 03/10/2007 20:54:32
Originally by: Carnmire So the mighty BoB war machine is averaging 1 POS down every two weeks or so? I guess theyre aiming for early '08 sov in FAT.
this is about lag and particular fight, no? Sry, i might be wrong. Im sure there are plenty of other threads regarding speed of taking poses down .
But, then again, i guess you just randomly enter a thread and paste something 
I think we hold the record with 30 of yours in a day.
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Kara Ivanova
Latrocinium Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:57:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Nlewis
Originally by: Ms Tolarri
Originally by: Nlewis 1280x1024 has more pixels than 1280x800 and doesn't run any different than 1024x768 in eve. sure you could use full graphics during that fight, eve currently does not use your graphics card and you have a good processor. this has nothing to do with widescreen over non-widescreen. Even with AA and AF running with(outside of) eve, it still shouldn't make much of a difference performance wise since your graphics card already has little to no load put onto it
I tried to edit this into my other post but it wouldn't work for some reason
/cuts the quote-pyramid
Anyway
"1280x1024 has more pixels than 1280x800 and doesn't run any different than 1024x768." Lawl wtf? It will run slower at a higher resolution, just not noticeably slower. Besides, 1280x800 isn't a widescreen resolution, just a wide aspect ratio. The original res of that video, by doubling the half-size res, is 1680x1048. That's 1.7 million pixels, as opposed to 1024x768 / 1280x800 running at under 1 million. 70% more pixels to render makes no difference?
any other game and I agree with you but we are talking about eve
Any idea how badly you just failed?
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Nlewis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.03 21:00:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Kara Ivanova
Originally by: Nlewis
Originally by: Ms Tolarri
Originally by: Nlewis 1280x1024 has more pixels than 1280x800 and doesn't run any different than 1024x768 in eve. sure you could use full graphics during that fight, eve currently does not use your graphics card and you have a good processor. this has nothing to do with widescreen over non-widescreen. Even with AA and AF running with(outside of) eve, it still shouldn't make much of a difference performance wise since your graphics card already has little to no load put onto it
I tried to edit this into my other post but it wouldn't work for some reason
/cuts the quote-pyramid
Anyway
"1280x1024 has more pixels than 1280x800 and doesn't run any different than 1024x768." Lawl wtf? It will run slower at a higher resolution, just not noticeably slower. Besides, 1280x800 isn't a widescreen resolution, just a wide aspect ratio. The original res of that video, by doubling the half-size res, is 1680x1048. That's 1.7 million pixels, as opposed to 1024x768 / 1280x800 running at under 1 million. 70% more pixels to render makes no difference?
any other game and I agree with you but we are talking about eve
Any idea how badly you just failed?
why? I have switched many times between 1280x1024 and 1024x768 many times and I have noticed no difference whatsoever
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Ztrain
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.03 21:02:00 -
[124]
More Dots more Dots!!! Lag does the killboard good.
Z CCP (Producers of Slide Show Online) takin the fun out of EVE, one patch at a time. |

Wigglytuff
Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.03 21:12:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Ms Tolarri
Originally by: Wainak SERVER IS WORKING FINE! NO LAG @ ALL!
You really shouldn't be running a Widescreen monitor with a single-core CPU. It will kill your performance.
EPIC post.
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Pilk
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.10.03 21:15:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Validor cap ships involved?
you tell me.
Linkage
and
Linkage
You're in a seven-ganglink command ship with no command processors, it's not even the fleet-command variety (so you're only able to run one of them at a time), you aren't the fleet commander, you have no drones in your bay, and you're on-grid with the fight despite it not being physically possible for you to get on a killmail if you wanted to.
Thank you for contributing absolutely NOTHING to that fight. I'm sure everyone was happy to have you there.
--P
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2007.10.03 21:15:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Ztrain More Dots more Dots!!! Lag does the killboard good.
Z
Hehe 
I wonder though if you will say the same when your next titan goes down 
I can't really imagine that any mature player can enjoy that lag. Shooting ships that are lagged out or desynced?
How exciting *yawns*
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Kay Han
Caldari Friendship 7 Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.03 21:18:00 -
[128]
wish i was there.      
Originally by: CCP Atropos Personally I think Amarr ships should consume slaves in a similar way that other ships consume ammunition.
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Kara Ivanova
Latrocinium Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.03 21:18:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Nlewis why? I have switched between 1280x1024 and 1024x768 many times and I have noticed no difference whatsoever
Did you go from 1 frame / minute to one frame / 50 seconds then?
Seriously, there is a difference. Like Mrs T said, sometimes it's barely noticeable, but you're trying to challenge cold hard fact 
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XoPhyte
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.03 21:22:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Wainak SERVER IS WORKING FINE! NO LAG @ ALL!
Yeah those are no fun, It looks like you where about to warp out, I hope you did .
And it has nothing to do with the computer speed, the grid never loaded, meaning the server never sent him the grid details. Happens to all of us TBH, I have had my fair share of it as well.
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Winters Chill
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.10.03 21:27:00 -
[131]
So...who won
/popcorn
*munch*munch*
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Ztrain
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.03 21:27:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Gnulpie
Originally by: Ztrain More Dots more Dots!!! Lag does the killboard good.
Z
Hehe 
I wonder though if you will say the same when your next titan goes down 
I can't really imagine that any mature player can enjoy that lag. Shooting ships that are lagged out or desynced?
How exciting *yawns*
For thoes that didn't see it. I am sarcastic as hell. Lag sucks for EVERYONE involved. Problem is until enough people demand that they fix their broken game nothing will change.
Okay enough seriousness. On the more sarcastic note it is kinda cool to be able to play an MMO at a pace that partaking in huge fleet battles at the same time as playing another MMO. What other MMO can offer that?
Z CCP (Producers of Slide Show Online) takin the fun out of EVE, one patch at a time. |

Shirokko Papshimar
Gallente SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 21:28:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Darcuese its my fault tbh
yes sir im afraid it is all ur fault u should be ashamed
but we love you so .. you forgiven
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Kaaii
Caldari Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.10.03 21:28:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Winters Chill So...who won
/popcorn
*munch*munch*
Why, Bob did, of course.... \0/
According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
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Hellaciouss
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 21:29:00 -
[135]
Edited by: Hellaciouss on 03/10/2007 21:31:06
Originally by: Pilk Noob talking smack --P
You know, I keep seeing you smack all over the forums, so I asked myself, "Who are these AXE guys? They must be pretty big to be giving out advice like this". So I looked at the Sov map and tried to find Axiom Empire somewhere. For some reason they were not listed in the Sov tab and thought "that can't be possible for the amount of smack I read from this Pilk guy", so I went online and found this well known website and yet it shows them as having no space anywhere.
Talk about worthless. Obviously both the Sov map in-game and the sov statistics on that site are out of date, right guys? ..right? .....guys?
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Felfany
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Posted - 2007.10.03 21:31:00 -
[136]
Edited by: Felfany on 03/10/2007 21:30:50 whoops*
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Aversin
Gallente principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 21:31:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Bluebear8 But, of course we have lag in FAT.
BoB told all its friends they have to appear today or face a rental increase.
IAC told all its members ... FREE DRINKS!
EPIC battles ... deserve EPIC posts ...
You all know, CCP planned it this way... While you wait to relog, you should enjoy this thread to find out who is winning today's FORUM battle! 
WHAT THE CRAP WE GET FREE DRINKS? WHY DID NO ONE TELL ME!
Originally by: Razner Cerizo They will never quit. The beatings will continue until morale improves.
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Ezoran DuBlaidd
Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.10.03 21:33:00 -
[138]
Originally by: bulabuba
Originally by: Hummer H3
Why on earth with BoB+allies tied up in FAT, goons haven't swarmed into Bob homespace and started attempting to drop cyno jammers or reinforce POS instead of putting even more ships into an already overloaded system.
Because overloading a system to the point where it lags out and dies works for them. It's the tactic they've been using for at least a year now. Where have you been?
Quote: Honestly is there a reason why it makes more sence to Lag FAT that potentially draw BoB back to their homespace?
Yep, there is a reason. Lagging a system out makes winning and losing more of a crapshoot, and tends to favor the force that had the most people in a system at the time the node died. You can expect to see Goons do this every time the Russians look like they might be in trouble. Why does it make sense? Because, again, it works for them, and has been working for over a year now. The unhappy state of the game is that either side will do what it takes to win, whether that means playing the game, or playing the game mechanics and server limitations.
If it came down to a contest of pure pvp skill, tactics, and strategy, I don't think even the Goons could delude themselves into thinking they'd have much of a chance against MC and BoB. Fortunately for them, it doesn't.
wasn't that tactic used for years before goons were ingame?
or do you just ignore the parts of history that don't suit your own propaganda?
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Ezoran DuBlaidd
Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.10.03 21:35:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Darcuese Edited by: Darcuese on 03/10/2007 20:54:32
Originally by: Carnmire So the mighty BoB war machine is averaging 1 POS down every two weeks or so? I guess theyre aiming for early '08 sov in FAT.
this is about lag and particular fight, no? Sry, i might be wrong. Im sure there are plenty of other threads regarding speed of taking poses down .
But, then again, i guess you just randomly enter a thread and paste something 
translated: yes
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Orangir
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.03 21:42:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Kara Ivanova Did you go from 1 frame / minute to one frame / 50 seconds then?
Seriously, there is a difference. Like Mrs T said, sometimes it's barely noticeable, but you're trying to challenge cold hard fact 
No, there isn't a difference. EVE offloads most graphics processing to the CPU rather than the GPU. Increasing the load on the GPU won't make a difference because your framerate is being limited by the CPU already. It'd be like running Bioshock with an 8800 and a Pentium 3, increasing AA and AF won't lower your framerates because your CPU will be choking and lowering your framerates on even the lowest settings.
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Winters Chill
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.10.03 21:43:00 -
[141]
Edited by: Winters Chill on 03/10/2007 21:44:32
Originally by: Dawn Razor
Then I shut down the game and watched the movie "Sunshine" by Danny Boyle. A really good movie, I¦d recommend it to any scifi fans...it¦s in the same vein as Event Horizon, slightly less gory and a bit more intelligent maybe.
Intelligent? Really? The entire hook is based on a series implausable "what could go wrong next" moments. I didn't like it, ah well to each thier own I suppose.
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Kara Ivanova
Latrocinium Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.03 21:56:00 -
[142]
Originally by: Orangir
Originally by: Kara Ivanova Did you go from 1 frame / minute to one frame / 50 seconds then?
Seriously, there is a difference. Like Mrs T said, sometimes it's barely noticeable, but you're trying to challenge cold hard fact 
No, there isn't a difference. EVE offloads most graphics processing to the CPU rather than the GPU. Increasing the load on the GPU won't make a difference because your framerate is being limited by the CPU already. It'd be like running Bioshock with an 8800 and a Pentium 3, increasing AA and AF won't lower your framerates because your CPU will be choking and lowering your framerates on even the lowest settings.
Do you not realise that a GPU is just a CPU in disguise, haxx0red to make it solely for graphics processing?
I wasn't saying anything about AA and AF increasing / decreasing framerate, so why did you even bring that into the equation? Increasing the number of pixels to change every frame makes the CPU (which, as Eve is pretty crappily programmed, and does all of its graphics rendering on the CPU (AA and AF don't count as theyre programmed externally with graphics drivers) work harder to do so, thus reducing framerate.
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Asylum Seaker
Quam Singulari M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.10.03 21:57:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Phear meh
imo just allow 100 people tops in a system.. this old crap of blob warfare is just sickning. lrn2play
So how are you meant to attack this system if the defense fleet is 100 strong? Which it will be, no problem.
The universe is hostile, so impersonal, devour to survive, so it is, so it's always been.
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Pilk
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.10.03 22:02:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Hellaciouss You know, I keep seeing you smack all over the forums, so I asked myself, "Who are these AXE guys? They must be pretty big to be giving out advice like this". So I looked at the Sov map and tried to find Axiom Empire somewhere. For some reason they were not listed in the Sov tab and thought "that can't be possible for the amount of smack I read from this Pilk guy", so I went online and found this well known website and yet it shows them as having no space anywhere.
Talk about worthless. Obviously both the Sov map in-game and the sov statistics on that site are out of date, right guys? ..right? .....guys?
Are you suggesting, then, that Burn Eden, 0utbreak, and oooh Shiny are all worthless? They don't hold any outposts, either. Indeed, if the price of admission to 0.0 combat is owning an outpost, why was BOS doing the heavy lifting for you guys in 49-U? They hold no stations.
At any rate, if you want to respond to me pointing out that you had a patently-worthless player on the field by firing a shot at my alliance's e-cred, you're probably already beyond my help. We'll win the battle because we know how to fit ships so that they're a boon to our effectiveness, not a liability. Meanwhile, I'm sure you'll win some sort of e-cred e-peen contest.
--P
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OmegaKnight
The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 22:06:00 -
[145]
Need more hamsters
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xBlood
Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.10.03 22:10:00 -
[146]
Edited by: xBlood on 03/10/2007 22:10:03 ^
awesome 
Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Valorem ([email protected]) |

Karunel
Princeps Corp YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.10.03 22:17:00 -
[147]
That BP needs more research.  ____
Originally by: elbenito The problem with large fleet engagements is that the hamsters stop to watch.
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Lucy Liusius
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 22:23:00 -
[148]
Hell my friend , calm down 
AXE was once with the good guys , actually helped fight MC with IAC way back in the day ...
sad really to see them where they are to day 
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Ivor Gunn
No One Expects The Spanish Inquisition
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Posted - 2007.10.03 22:24:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Lucy Liusius sad really to see them where they are to day 
As opposed to aligning with goons?
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Orangir
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.03 22:25:00 -
[150]
Originally by: Kara Ivanova
Do you not realise that a GPU is just a CPU in disguise, haxx0red to make it solely for graphics processing?
I wasn't saying anything about AA and AF increasing / decreasing framerate, so why did you even bring that into the equation? Increasing the number of pixels to change every frame makes the CPU (which, as Eve is pretty crappily programmed, and does all of its graphics rendering on the CPU (AA and AF don't count as theyre programmed externally with graphics drivers) work harder to do so, thus reducing framerate.
You don't get graphics processing, do you? When I had a 9600XT, changing from 800x600 to 1027x768 actually increased my framerates. Do you know why?
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Hellaciouss
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 22:26:00 -
[151]
Originally by: Pilk We'll win the battle because we know how to fit ships so that they're a boon to our effectiveness, not a liability. --P
Yah, you guys proved how much you're winning today, that's for sure. 1 PoS out of 11, was it? 18 Days left Pilk. Tick Tock.
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Timmehh
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Posted - 2007.10.03 22:34:00 -
[152]
Originally by: Lucy Liusius Hell my friend , calm down 
AXE was once with the good guys , actually helped fight MC with IAC way back in the day ...
sad really to see them where they are to day 
The good guys!?? what are the bad guys doing that is so bad? and vv
personally, i think a "minority" in goonswarm are the real badguys
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Lucy Liusius
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 22:43:00 -
[153]
Its really simple 
The bad guys are killing me and my friends
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Andargor theWise
Collateral Damage Unlimited Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 22:44:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Timmehh
Originally by: Lucy Liusius Hell my friend , calm down 
AXE was once with the good guys , actually helped fight MC with IAC way back in the day ...
sad really to see them where they are to day 
The good guys!?? what are the bad guys doing that is so bad? and vv
personally, i think a "minority" in goonswarm are the real badguys
The bad guys are, you know, them!!!
- Stop the Feature Glut: Take the API to the Next Level
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Anton Marx
Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 22:51:00 -
[155]
Btw Pilk, for some reason, I have always wondered if you're a girl in RL?
- Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate -
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Andargor theWise
Collateral Damage Unlimited Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 22:55:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Anton Marx Btw Pilk, for some reason, I have always wondered if you're a girl in RL?
It's not a dating site, Anton.  - Stop the Feature Glut: Take the API to the Next Level
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Timmehh
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.10.03 22:55:00 -
[157]
i see. but you started the war!
AAA actually started the war against AXE when they were in Impass a while back.
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Ezoran DuBlaidd
Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.10.03 23:00:00 -
[158]
Originally by: Timmehh i see. but you started the war!
AAA actually started the war against AXE when they were in Impass a while back.
So IAC/AAA are the badguys here 
one group - full of happy drunks.
another group - full of people who have declared they have two purposes 1 take over all 0.0 and empire 2 exterminate a certain ethnic group from new eden.
you do the math - who is good and who is evil.
ps - below is what ethnic means.
1. pertaining to or characteristic of a people, esp. a group (ethnic group) sharing a common and distinctive culture, religion, language, or the like. 2.belonging to or deriving from the cultural, racial, religious, or linguistic traditions of a people or country: ethnic dances. 3.Obsolete. pagan; heathen.
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Lucy Liusius
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 23:01:00 -
[159]
We are pretty bad .. arent we 
woot woot 
RAGOONIAAAC FOR THE WIN !!!!!!!!
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Galgarak
Gallente Malus Spiritus
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Posted - 2007.10.03 23:04:00 -
[160]
Edited by: Galgarak on 03/10/2007 23:05:16
Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd
one group - full of happy drunks. who whine(get the pun?) and moan about lag when losing and brag and chest beat if they win
another group - full of people who have declared they have two purposes 1 take over all 0.0 and empire 2 exterminate a certain ethnic group from new eden.
you do the math - who is good and who is evil.
changed for you, i did the math, i guess it depends who you are sided with, however evil is a strong word to use over a game
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Alfosia
Novastorm Inc Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 23:05:00 -
[161]
Originally by: Timmehh
The good guys!?? what are the bad guys doing that is so bad? and vv
personally, i think a "minority" in goonswarm are the real badguys
The good guys are the ones trying to liberate 0.0 from BoB's tyranical reign, you know, the people who tried to take it all and force everyone to pay to live there.
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Ezoran DuBlaidd
Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.10.03 23:06:00 -
[162]
Originally by: Galgarak Edited by: Galgarak on 03/10/2007 23:05:16
Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd
one group - full of happy drunks. who whine(get the pun?) and moan about lag when losing and brag and chest beat if they win
another group - full of people who have declared they have two purposes 1 take over all 0.0 and empire 2 exterminate a certain ethnic group from new eden.
you do the math - who is good and who is evil.
changed for you, i did the math, i guess it depends who you are sided with, however evil is a strong word to use over a game
ethnic cleansing is a stronger (and evil) concept for an alliance to have in a game.
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Timmehh
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.10.03 23:07:00 -
[163]
Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd
Originally by: Timmehh i see. but you started the war!
AAA actually started the war against AXE when they were in Impass a while back.
So IAC/AAA are the badguys here 
one group - full of happy drunks.
another group - full of people who have declared they have two purposes 1 take over all 0.0 and empire 2 exterminate a certain ethnic group from new eden.
you do the math - who is good and who is evil.
ps - below is what ethnic means.
1. pertaining to or characteristic of a people, esp. a group (ethnic group) sharing a common and distinctive culture, religion, language, or the like. 2.belonging to or deriving from the cultural, racial, religious, or linguistic traditions of a people or country: ethnic dances. 3.Obsolete. pagan; heathen.
pff. taking over all of 0.0 isent possible. neither is controling empire.
read my post again regarding my argument.
ps. - below is what reading means
the cognitive process of understanding a written linguistic message; "he enjoys reading books" a datum about some physical state that is presented to a user by a meter or similar instrument; "he could not believe the meter reading"; "the barometer gave clear indications of an approaching storm"
a particular interpretation or performance; "on that reading it was an insult"; "he was famous for his reading of Mozart"
written material intended to be read; "the teacher assigned new readings"; "he bought some reading material at the airport" |

Rhaegor Stormborn
Pestilent Industries Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.10.03 23:07:00 -
[164]
Originally by: Chip2k3 Edited by: Chip2k3 on 03/10/2007 19:15:00 God ya gotta lol at the morons who think you can get 600 people in 1 system and have no lag. Ya dont like it then only bring 50 V 50 asshats
Idiot ^^
Rhaegor Stormborn Fleet Admiral - Pestilent Industries Amalgamated [PIA] Recruitment Thread |

Ezoran DuBlaidd
Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.10.03 23:08:00 -
[165]
Edited by: Ezoran DuBlaidd on 03/10/2007 23:09:45
Originally by: Timmehh
Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd
Originally by: Timmehh i see. but you started the war!
AAA actually started the war against AXE when they were in Impass a while back.
So IAC/AAA are the badguys here 
one group - full of happy drunks.
another group - full of people who have declared they have two purposes 1 take over all 0.0 and empire 2 exterminate a certain ethnic group from new eden.
you do the math - who is good and who is evil.
ps - below is what ethnic means.
1. pertaining to or characteristic of a people, esp. a group (ethnic group) sharing a common and distinctive culture, religion, language, or the like. 2.belonging to or deriving from the cultural, racial, religious, or linguistic traditions of a people or country: ethnic dances. 3.Obsolete. pagan; heathen.
pff. taking over all of 0.0 isent possible. neither is controling empire.
read my post again regarding my argument.
ps. - below is what reading means
the cognitive process of understanding a written linguistic message; "he enjoys reading books" a datum about some physical state that is presented to a user by a meter or similar instrument; "he could not believe the meter reading"; "the barometer gave clear indications of an approaching storm"
a particular interpretation or performance; "on that reading it was an insult"; "he was famous for his reading of Mozart"
written material intended to be read; "the teacher assigned new readings"; "he bought some reading material at the airport"
yeah, because if i hadn't defined what ethnic (group) was, the next dozen posts would've been people who "read" and said "goons aren't an ethnic group". so, you put your definition because someone would post "that's not reading"?
what's that four letter word i'm looking for here...
edited: i notice you commented on 0.0, but not on the ethnic cleansing. hence, my definition served it's purpose. while yours was a vain attempt at trolling? mocking? boogering?
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Timmehh
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.10.03 23:12:00 -
[166]
Edited by: Timmehh on 03/10/2007 23:13:18
Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd
stuff....
what's that four letter word i'm looking for here...
edited: i notice you commented on 0.0, but not on the ethnic cleansing. hence, my definition served it's purpose. while yours was a vain attempt at trolling? mocking? boogering?
1. the four letter word is "read"
2. i edited
read why IAC/AAA are the badguys |

Ezoran DuBlaidd
Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.10.03 23:14:00 -
[167]
Originally by: Timmehh
1. the four letter word is "read"
2. i edited
read why IAC/AAA are the badguys
um, no, that's not the four letter word, but it starts with f and has the ale sound in it.
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Timmehh
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.10.03 23:16:00 -
[168]
Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd
Originally by: Timmehh
1. the four letter word is "read"
2. i edited
read why IAC/AAA are the badguys
um, no, that's not the four letter word, but it starts with f and has the ale sound in it.
search for the post and you shall find ? |

Tenebrys
Promethean Industries R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.10.03 23:19:00 -
[169]
Originally by: Timmehh read
Quote: Posting with an unidentified alt in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, please be sure to have the "Show Corporation" and "Show Alliance" checkboxes ticked in your forum settings.
The term alt for the purpose of these rules also includes anybody in an NPC corp.
Quote: Timmehh Republic Military School
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Timmehh
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.10.03 23:24:00 -
[170]
What? im not in any alliance. and what is "alt"? |
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Timmehh
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.10.03 23:30:00 -
[171]
Originally by: Del369
Originally by: Timmehh i see. but you started the war!
AAA actually started the war against AXE when they were in Impass a while back.
So IAC/AAA are the badguys here 
Nope, McFix invaded us not once but twice, in good christian stylee we let them slap both our cheeks before going for the nuts, i would link you to Seleenes leaked convo that goes in depth on it, but i can't be arsed 
ok then. well IAC are the good guys then 
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Nlewis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.03 23:32:00 -
[172]
Originally by: Timmehh What? im not in any alliance. and what is "alt"?
what you are posting with. post with your main
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Ezoran DuBlaidd
Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.10.03 23:33:00 -
[173]
Originally by: Nlewis
Originally by: Timmehh What? im not in any alliance. and what is "alt"?
what you are posting with. post with your main
his alien ant overlords said, "NO" to that.
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Nero Winger
Most Wanted INC
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Posted - 2007.10.03 23:38:00 -
[174]
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Timmehh
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.10.03 23:43:00 -
[175]
Edited by: Timmehh on 03/10/2007 23:45:10
Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd
Originally by: Nlewis
Originally by: Timmehh What? im not in any alliance. and what is "alt"?
what you are posting with. post with your main
his alien ant overlords said, "NO" to that.
my ceo is called Anstar Virt, but i've never seen him in corp channel
anyway, i think we've gone a little off topic now
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Jogyn
Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.10.04 00:12:00 -
[176]
After reading the whole thread i have some questions.
How many posses was killed and how many was saved? How many caps did MCBOBFIX + comrades field and how many did IAAAC + rest field? How many caps were lost? How big support fleets were there and who was there except MCFIXBOB/IAAAC? Whats the pos count in FAT?
Kinda sad that there is 7 pages of smack about a battle and no info at all.
-P3- |

Black Jumper
Altera Odyssea Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.10.04 00:16:00 -
[177]
Sorry for another wasted evening for you all guys. Anyways don't delude yourself about being able to fight with what would be considered normal warfare related to the size of the ongoing conflict.
CCP won't ever fix their game so people can fight such battles (advertised for by ccp by the way).
So don't take it all too seriously and spend some quality time with your wife / fried / pet / and so on.
Good luck all for next fights.
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Gungankllr
Caldari STK Scientific M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.10.04 00:23:00 -
[178]
I think it's hilarious to see people try to complain about the server not being able to handle 700 people fighting at the same time.
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Hellaciouss
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.04 00:26:00 -
[179]
Originally by: Jogyn After reading the whole thread i have some questions.
How many posses was killed and how many was saved? How many caps did MCBOBFIX + comrades field and how many did IAAAC + rest field? How many caps were lost? How big support fleets were there and who was there except MCFIXBOB/IAAAC? Whats the pos count in FAT?
Kinda sad that there is 7 pages of smack about a battle and no info at all.
- 1 PoS was killed
- 5 of 5 were saved yesterday, 5 of 6 were saved today
- I think 2 or 3 Coalition Carriers were killed. No McBoB & Pet Cap loses I believe. Got 1 Dread to 30% hull but no one could reload ammo at that point and it lived.
- Both fleets were pretty large (probably 200+ each not including capitals), no idea exactly how many different alliances were there.
- Probably classified, or at least I ain't telling. IAC still hold Sov though

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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.10.04 00:28:00 -
[180]
Originally by: Gungankllr I think it's hilarious to see people try to complain about the server not being able to handle 700 people fighting at the same time.
Truly hilarious when there is a video of a CCP member of staff talking about a fight involving 1000...as a promotion.
How do you suggest anyone fights a POS war Gunga?
I, erm, like kill things and stuff |
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Mynas Atoch
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.04 00:28:00 -
[181]
Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 04/10/2007 00:31:42 Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 04/10/2007 00:28:59
Originally by: Jogyn After reading the whole thread i have some questions.
How many posses was killed and how many was saved? How many caps did MCBOBFIX + comrades field and how many did IAAAC + rest field? How many caps were lost? How big support fleets were there and who was there except MCFIXBOB/IAAAC? Whats the pos count in FAT?
Kinda sad that there is 7 pages of smack about a battle and no info at all.
One killed, five saved. Notably, the only one killed was the only one that came out after the Alliance Euros got home from work.
Impossible to say. The numbers changed every minute. Cap fleets during the Euro daytime are very unstable as people leave and join for real life stuff all the time. Both sides had 40-50 at peak, but the numbers were higher for the Red/AAA capital fleet earlier in the day, and higher for the Alliance later.
Three carriers were killed, all Coalition. One Alliance dread got into low structure before his reps activated, but the dps mysteiously died off as all those who locked him took thrity minutes to reload. Thanks Blizz!
Again the numbers in the support fleets varied. Till late Euro evening, its safe to say that the Coalition had the advantage in numbers. 2v3 and 3v4 were the ratios being bandied about. AXE, ISS, EXE, ESA, Goons, RA, UNL and TCF all showed up.
You'd need to ask IAC about the pos count - they get the mails.
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Jogyn
Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.10.04 00:33:00 -
[182]
Thanks Hellaciouss and Mynas for the answers and info, seems like the forums aint dead just yet ;)
-P3- |

CaptainMiller
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Posted - 2007.10.04 00:38:00 -
[183]
Originally by: Yaay The best news of the day is the IAC contribution to BoB's war effort today... full story later.
We do appreciate the free stuff

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DenverThe LastDinosaur
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Posted - 2007.10.04 00:40:00 -
[184]
Originally by: CaptainMiller
Originally by: Yaay The best news of the day is the IAC contribution to BoB's war effort today... full story later.
We do appreciate the free stuff

Like when the BOB member gave IAC a mothership but the other way around?
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Lazuran
Gallente Time And ISK Sink Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.04 01:04:00 -
[185]
Originally by: Gungankllr I think it's hilarious to see people try to complain about the server not being able to handle 700 people fighting at the same time.
I think it is more hilarious to see people from small, insignificant alliances claiming that the game works as intended when it's broken for normal alliance warfare.
When CCP openly admits that EVE does not work for fights with more than XXX people in a system, then feel free to ridicule people who attempt to do that, but until then, how about you stop trolling.
isn't it funny how some people advocate both GTC<=>ISK trades and EVE being superior due to its cruelty and costly losses, when they use the former to circumvent the latter?
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Gungankllr
Caldari STK Scientific M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.10.04 01:55:00 -
[186]
Originally by: Lazuran
Originally by: Gungankllr I think it's hilarious to see people try to complain about the server not being able to handle 700 people fighting at the same time.
I think it is more hilarious to see people from small, insignificant alliances claiming that the game works as intended when it's broken for normal alliance warfare.
When CCP openly admits that EVE does not work for fights with more than XXX people in a system, then feel free to ridicule people who attempt to do that, but until then, how about you stop trolling.
I don't believe common sense is trolling.
Everybody knows that when you reach a certain point of data input and transferral the servers are unable to cope and you experience lag.
With 700 people in a system, it's not just the 700 in the system, but the other people on the same node.
The bladed server system has to take the inputs of each and every one of those pilots, track the changes, and spit out the results. I know it is far more complicated than that, but it is what it is.
I think we can all agree that CCP has dumped a tremendous amount of money into their servers, to the tune of several million dollars thus far.
Unless there is a vast leap forward in data transferral technology, and processing speed server side technology there will always be lagfests like were experienced today in FAT.
I've been in all sorts of fleet battles from 20 vs. 20 on up into the hundreds, so I can say I have some experience with lag. Node crashes, 15 minute module activation, .25 FPS slideshows.
Being through all that doesn't change anything, I know that if you stuff 400 people in one system and intend to shoot it out, there is going to be lag. Loads and loads and loads of lag.
CCP advertising 1000 man fleet battles isn't realistic, I agree with that. Yes, it can be done, but it's like putting a volkswagen engine in a school bus and being proud you were able to move. I just think that beefing up the servers again and again to deal with the fundamental problem of data thoroughput isn't the answer we need to seek.
If there was some sort of tangiable reward for bringing less forces to the battlefield, then MAYBE you would see smaller, more manageable battles.
Everyone wants to win, which is why they bring as many people as they can. Such is warfare, such is life.
I'm not a huge fan of having to artificially cap the amount of people allowed in a system, but that was a start.
Instead of everyone saying "Woe is me, the server can't handle the processes of 700 people plus everyone else on the node" start thinking outside the box and help CCP come up with some ideas to reduce the amount of people needed on the battlefield to win.
Be part of the problem or be part of the solution.
I'll start a thread in the features and ideas section, and link it in a second. Will it help? I really don't know, but has to be better than all of us snapping at each other for a problem we ALL know about.
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Rechal
Active Measures Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.10.04 02:06:00 -
[187]
Another epic "Who cares?" thread on CAOD.
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hawkeiz
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.04 02:28:00 -
[188]
If ccp setups the game mechanics like they have to promote these large and lenghty fleet battles, then they need to design the infrastrucuture to handle it.
I see all these messages going back and forth about peoples graphics settings and resolution. That my friends is NOT the issue during these lag spikes. My cpu is fine, my graphics card is fine, but what isnt fine is getting the information from ccp's server to my client and back. During this morning's battle, sitting there waiting to reload and activate my modules I poped up the monitor. Looked at the network tab and saw 10 outstanding calls. Now as far as I understand, those represent 10 things my client is requesting from the server... a couple of minutes later, those 10 requests still sat there. No graphics issue.
One of two things is happening. Network saturation or server saturation. Now-a-days with partitionable servers and virtual machines that would automatically acquire large amounts of CPU when necessary, it really isnt a huge design challenge to overcome these kind of CPU demand issue, but alas, CCP decided to go the blade route.
But I'm not here to solve CCP's issues or come up with design recommendations on my speculated concept of how they are running things. The point of this post is simply a rant and a serious request to CCP to address these issues FOREMOST. I could care less about walking around the station, if the only meangingful message I receive after undocking is "Ship is out of control"
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Kraken Sra'vik
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Posted - 2007.10.04 02:48:00 -
[189]
Hmm, didn't CCP put a system cap on a BoB system that was invaded...
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Wigglytuff
Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.04 03:01:00 -
[190]
Originally by: Kraken Sra'vik Hmm, didn't CCP put a system cap on a BoB system that was invaded...
They've done it a few times, the specific Bob incident you're thinking of is likely when the coalition was going after a 'titan' that turned out to be a mothership, iirc they put the 700 player cap in place, and had they not, the other 2000 or so players from both sides trying to get there would've likely crashed the node, if not the server as a whole in the process.
Cap was also used when LV's baby titan was killed iirc.
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Kraken Sra'vik
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Posted - 2007.10.04 03:49:00 -
[191]
Originally by: Wigglytuff
Originally by: Kraken Sra'vik Hmm, didn't CCP put a system cap on a BoB system that was invaded...
They've done it a few times, the specific Bob incident you're thinking of is likely when the coalition was going after a 'titan' that turned out to be a mothership, iirc they put the 700 player cap in place, and had they not, the other 2000 or so players from both sides trying to get there would've likely crashed the node, if not the server as a whole in the process.
Cap was also used when LV's baby titan was killed iirc.
Then, tbh, why don't they put one on FAT temporarily. It's not like this is going to get smaller.
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Moonlight Express
Amarr Moonlight Express Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.04 04:45:00 -
[192]
Originally by: Wigglytuff
Originally by: Kraken Sra'vik Hmm, didn't CCP put a system cap on a BoB system that was invaded...
They've done it a few times, the specific Bob incident you're thinking of is likely when the coalition was going after a 'titan' that turned out to be a mothership, iirc they put the 700 player cap in place, and had they not, the other 2000 or so players from both sides trying to get there would've likely crashed the node, if not the server as a whole in the process.
Cap was also used when LV's baby titan was killed iirc.
Do you make up things as you go along or you just repeat the crap that someone feeds you without knowing the facts?
First of all, the Titan that turned out to be Mother ship TURNED OUT TO BE EMPTY POS! All the capitals that were killed in that fight still hold the record of most capitals lost in a single battle. It was also known by opposition that it was not a baby Titan in the POS to begin with and it was held secret from their member, so basically they were all sacrificed.
Second, there was no cap limit on systems when LV lost their baby Titan, thatÆs why there was no way to defend 1K+ blob from crashing the node and thatÆs why CCP introduced the 700 cap limit in the first place.
Get your facts strait if you are going to repeat propaganda on CAOD or someone WILL call you out on in. This time, that someone is me. 
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Yaay
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.04 05:11:00 -
[193]
Edited by: Yaay on 04/10/2007 05:13:27 Edited by: Yaay on 04/10/2007 05:12:25
Originally by: Kraken Sra'vik
Originally by: Wigglytuff
Originally by: Kraken Sra'vik Hmm, didn't CCP put a system cap on a BoB system that was invaded...
They've done it a few times, the specific Bob incident you're thinking of is likely when the coalition was going after a 'titan' that turned out to be a mothership, iirc they put the 700 player cap in place, and had they not, the other 2000 or so players from both sides trying to get there would've likely crashed the node, if not the server as a whole in the process.
Cap was also used when LV's baby titan was killed iirc.
Then, tbh, why don't they put one on FAT temporarily. It's not like this is going to get smaller.
fat never exceeded 700 today... that is to say it reached about 680 peak, and then quickly fell.
for that matter, f-t never exceeded about 580.
lag is lag, it comes and goes, stuff happens, stop arguing and start adjusting... the other day in fat we had 420 in local and 2 second mod lag. on that day, a titan was killed 17 AAA capitals downed and 3 iac towers destroyed.
now someone please follow this post with something about fighterhaxploituberness so we can get on with our lives.
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larietta
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.10.04 05:26:00 -
[194]
i had abit ov lag but not much i play will all effects off and graphics off eve looks some thing like this Linkage
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PCaBoo
RennTech SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 05:53:00 -
[195]
Originally by: larietta i had abit ov lag but not much i play will all effects off and graphics off eve looks some thing like this Linkage
wow you fail! Your high score sux! 
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Karim alRashid
Gallente principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.04 05:58:00 -
[196]
Originally by: Mynas Atoch
One killed, five saved. Notably, the only one killed was the only one that came out after the Alliance Euros got home from work.
Of course, they get reinforced only after IAC/AAA go to sleep.
What is your point ?
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Jonathan Peterbilt
Caldari Damage Unlimited Inc
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Posted - 2007.10.04 06:11:00 -
[197]
Originally by: Karim alRashid
Originally by: Mynas Atoch
One killed, five saved. Notably, the only one killed was the only one that came out after the Alliance Euros got home from work.
Of course, they get reinforced only after IAC/AAA go to sleep.
What is your point ?
In EVE, you know you failed and you depend on others when you start timing your life to one of the Russian time zones 
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Victoria Ehr
Twisted Attitude Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.10.04 06:40:00 -
[198]
Everything has goon-down hill, i just hope this "need for speed" plan of action kicks in pretty soon 
Demand answers and inherit lies; Ask questions and inherit truth. Ramileus |

Orangir
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.04 06:45:00 -
[199]
Originally by: Jonathan Peterbilt In EVE, you know you failed and you depend on others when you start timing your life to one of the Russian time zones 
Or when your alliance loses all of their space and desperately hopes that BoB will adopt them. Yeah, that too.
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ante geia
principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.04 06:51:00 -
[200]
CCP, please let us do the 1000 pilot conga.
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Del369
Caldari Office linebackers Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.04 07:18:00 -
[201]
Edited by: Del369 on 04/10/2007 07:20:36
Originally by: Jonathan Peterbilt
Originally by: Karim alRashid
Originally by: Mynas Atoch
One killed, five saved. Notably, the only one killed was the only one that came out after the Alliance Euros got home from work.
Of course, they get reinforced only after IAC/AAA go to sleep.
What is your point ?
In EVE, you know you failed and you depend on others when you start timing your life to one of the Russian time zones 
Quite the contrary my ball less alt posting little nobody, we weren't the ones that decided to consolidate the WHOLE war in one place, were we now ? that's right, no we weren't, that's down to your little friends, we could however send everyone home and just leave the field to IAC and FIX, then we can talk about who fails at what.........
edit* yes Timmeh we are the good guys, on every level, and we are ultimately going to take Darth Bobbits light sabre and stick it in his collective bottom 
Originally by: Saladin Edit: I never post disclaimers in any of my more contrversial posts because I think anyone who thinks I am speaking for anyone other than myself is a muppet anyways.
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Von Kleist
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.04 07:21:00 -
[202]
Originally by: Jonathan Peterbilt
Originally by: Karim alRashid
Originally by: Mynas Atoch
One killed, five saved. Notably, the only one killed was the only one that came out after the Alliance Euros got home from work.
Of course, they get reinforced only after IAC/AAA go to sleep.
What is your point ?
In EVE, you know you failed and you depend on others when you start timing your life to one of the Russian time zones 
Dont worry about po little jonny, he's one of dem ol ded 'V' peeps crushin goons industrial backbone
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Lady Carris
Amarr Office linebackers Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.04 07:29:00 -
[203]
Originally by: Mynas Atoch One killed, five saved. Notably, the only one killed was the only one that came out after the Alliance Euros got home from work.
Also of note the day previous, 5 POSes was saved as Alliance forces would not engage fully whilst other members of the Alliance was not there.
See what I did there? 
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Shoukei
Boobs Ahoy
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Posted - 2007.10.04 07:31:00 -
[204]
Originally by: Lady Carris See what I did there? 
you timed pos for russian prime and hoped enough ruskies will be online to save your pos? 
here be signatures! |

Tom McCash
Asgard Schiffswerften Ev0ke
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Posted - 2007.10.04 07:39:00 -
[205]
Originally by: Rochel Hakiri He was talking about creating a thread, anyways CCP : Welp!!!
40 minutes and counting ...
lemme play ma game please
Stop expecting fun with these numbers. This is technical not possible.
Stob blobbing (i mean both sides). Maybe then you can expect fun.
Till then : Dont blame CCP for your own faults
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.10.04 07:42:00 -
[206]
Originally by: Shoukei
Originally by: Lady Carris See what I did there? 
you timed pos for russian prime and hoped enough ruskies will be online to save your pos? 
IAC gets under a huge attack and plans for the best strategic time when they and their allies can defend it. I bet AAA prefer IAC doing this than letting them come out at midnight when it would mean the Russians would have to stand idly by or do a middle of the night alarmclock op to save the POS.
And what is worse in any case, IAC depending on allies in case of a huge attack, or all the BoB pets...sorry, renters whose whole existence in 0.0 is dependent on big daddy BoB handing them space as well as save their asses whenever a baddy comes along. ------------------------------------------------
New idea for sovereignty: Sovereignty revisited |

Del369
Caldari Office linebackers Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.04 07:47:00 -
[207]
Originally by: Tom McCash
Originally by: Rochel Hakiri He was talking about creating a thread, anyways CCP : Welp!!!
40 minutes and counting ...
lemme play ma game please
Stop expecting fun with these numbers. This is technical not possible.
Stob blobbing (i mean both sides). Maybe then you can expect fun.
Till then : Dont blame CCP for your own faults
Better see BOB about consolodating the whole war in one place on that level Tom, we would quite happily leave it at just us and FIX, BOB however seem to be fighting a moral war and thought we would be an easy target  Funny thing is, even if IAC folded tomorrow, we still out lasted all these sad little bitter alt posters alliances who were swept aside a long time ago. This is the 3rd time they've tried destroying us now, and look where it's getting them ? The steam roller was supposed to have wiped us out by last weekend if intel serves correct.......
Originally by: Saladin Edit: I never post disclaimers in any of my more contrversial posts because I think anyone who thinks I am speaking for anyone other than myself is a muppet anyways.
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Nahia Senne
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.04 07:58:00 -
[208]
Coalition bring 400 people to fight 200 alliance. Then they proceed to whine about alliance blobbing.
Its all in the magical 3 to 1 ratio i tell you. You just need to bring x3 more people and you will score a decisive victory.
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Del369
Caldari Office linebackers Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.04 07:59:00 -
[209]
Originally by: Nahia Senne Coalition bring 400 people to fight 200 alliance. Then they proceed to whine about alliance blobbing.
Its all in the magical 3 to 1 ratio i tell you. You just need to bring x3 more people and you will score a decisive victory.
you might wanna learn to read before you post, helps in not making you look like a complete numpty 
Originally by: Saladin Edit: I never post disclaimers in any of my more contrversial posts because I think anyone who thinks I am speaking for anyone other than myself is a muppet anyways.
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Alice Cholmondeley
I Am Legend
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Posted - 2007.10.04 08:27:00 -
[210]
Originally by: Malachon Draco
And what is worse in any case, IAC depending on allies in case of a huge attack, or all the BoB pets...sorry, renters whose whole existence in 0.0 is dependent on big daddy BoB handing them space as well as save their asses whenever a baddy comes along.
It's funny, INVICTUS could never stand up against any baddy, though you criticize others for having a little help. It's pretty obvious what is worse, alliances like yours, IAC and goons never fighting any fight alone. |
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Sentinel Eeex
Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.04 08:50:00 -
[211]
Originally by: Nahia Senne Coalition bring 400 people to fight 200 alliance. Then they proceed to whine about alliance blobbing.
Its all in the magical 3 to 1 ratio i tell you. You just need to bring x3 more people and you will score a decisive victory.
So, tell me... how many ships you saw on that grid, last night?
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Del369
Caldari Office linebackers Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.04 09:03:00 -
[212]
Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley
Originally by: Malachon Draco
And what is worse in any case, IAC depending on allies in case of a huge attack, or all the BoB pets...sorry, renters whose whole existence in 0.0 is dependent on big daddy BoB handing them space as well as save their asses whenever a baddy comes along.
It's funny, INVICTUS could never stand up against any baddy, though you criticize others for having a little help. It's pretty obvious what is worse, alliances like yours, IAC and goons never fighting any fight alone.
whats funny here miss cholostomybag is your never ending derranged bitter spew 
Originally by: Saladin Edit: I never post disclaimers in any of my more contrversial posts because I think anyone who thinks I am speaking for anyone other than myself is a muppet anyways.
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Lube Myholes
Nekkid Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.04 09:04:00 -
[213]
Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley
Originally by: Malachon Draco
And what is worse in any case, IAC depending on allies in case of a huge attack, or all the BoB pets...sorry, renters whose whole existence in 0.0 is dependent on big daddy BoB handing them space as well as save their asses whenever a baddy comes along.
It's funny, INVICTUS could never stand up against any baddy, though you criticize others for having a little help. It's pretty obvious what is worse, alliances like yours, IAC and goons never fighting any fight alone.
Hush, back in your cage BOB alt or your alliance m8 Isabel Sweet will pod you, have you forget about that ?
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Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 09:12:00 -
[214]
Originally by: Lube Myholes
Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley
Originally by: Malachon Draco
And what is worse in any case, IAC depending on allies in case of a huge attack, or all the BoB pets...sorry, renters whose whole existence in 0.0 is dependent on big daddy BoB handing them space as well as save their asses whenever a baddy comes along.
It's funny, INVICTUS could never stand up against any baddy, though you criticize others for having a little help. It's pretty obvious what is worse, alliances like yours, IAC and goons never fighting any fight alone.
Hush, back in your cage BOB alt or your alliance m8 Isabel Sweet will pod you, have you forget about that ?
ownd. ---
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Alice Cholmondeley
I Am Legend
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Posted - 2007.10.04 09:28:00 -
[215]
Edited by: Alice Cholmondeley on 04/10/2007 09:30:53
Originally by: Lube Myholes
Hush, back in your cage BOB alt or your alliance m8 Isabel Sweet will pod you, have you forget about that ?
How many buckets does it take to carry your tears?
Originally by: Del369
whats funny here miss cholostomybag is your never ending derranged bitter spew 
Great nameplay there, mr numpty. Seeing how you got Grimpak to side with you you know you've earned your mad props. |

Lube Myholes
Nekkid Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.04 09:30:00 -
[216]
Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley
Originally by: Lube Myholes
Hush, back in your cage BOB alt or your alliance m8 Isabel Sweet will pod you, have you forget about that ?
How many buckets does it take to carry your tears?
More then you need to carry your balls!
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Alice Cholmondeley
I Am Legend
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Posted - 2007.10.04 09:32:00 -
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Edited by: Alice Cholmondeley on 04/10/2007 09:34:22
Originally by: Lube Myholes
Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley
How many buckets does it take to carry your tears?
More then you need to carry your balls!
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Del369
Caldari Office linebackers Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.04 09:39:00 -
[218]
Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Edited by: Alice Cholmondeley on 04/10/2007 09:30:53
Originally by: Lube Myholes
Hush, back in your cage BOB alt or your alliance m8 Isabel Sweet will pod you, have you forget about that ?
How many buckets does it take to carry your tears?
Originally by: Del369
whats funny here miss cholostomybag is your never ending derranged bitter spew 
Great nameplay there, mr numpty. Seeing how you got Grimpak to side with you you know you've earned your mad props.
i think you might want to re read what you wrote there dear, it's about as derranged and off target as the rest of your tripe 
Originally by: Saladin Edit: I never post disclaimers in any of my more contrversial posts because I think anyone who thinks I am speaking for anyone other than myself is a muppet anyways.
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.10.04 09:46:00 -
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Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley
Originally by: Malachon Draco
And what is worse in any case, IAC depending on allies in case of a huge attack, or all the BoB pets...sorry, renters whose whole existence in 0.0 is dependent on big daddy BoB handing them space as well as save their asses whenever a baddy comes along.
It's funny, INVICTUS could never stand up against any baddy, though you criticize others for having a little help. It's pretty obvious what is worse, alliances like yours, IAC and goons never fighting any fight alone.
Are the bitter tears you shed making it hard to read Alice? I was not criticizing anyone for a little help, or even a lot of help. I was just criticizing hypocrits who criticize IAC for getting a lot of help, while harboring people who never fought to get the space they got. Like your pets. ------------------------------------------------
New idea for sovereignty: Sovereignty revisited |

Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.10.04 09:46:00 -
[220]
Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley
Originally by: Malachon Draco
And what is worse in any case, IAC depending on allies in case of a huge attack, or all the BoB pets...sorry, renters whose whole existence in 0.0 is dependent on big daddy BoB handing them space as well as save their asses whenever a baddy comes along.
It's funny, INVICTUS could never stand up against any baddy, though you criticize others for having a little help. It's pretty obvious what is worse, alliances like yours, IAC and goons never fighting any fight alone.
You make BoB look so bad with your pro-alliance alt posting I would almost suspect you are a goon :)
- Gob
Stealth bombers work! |
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Alice Cholmondeley
I Am Legend
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Posted - 2007.10.04 09:53:00 -
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Edited by: Alice Cholmondeley on 04/10/2007 09:54:49
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Are the bitter tears you shed making it hard to read Alice? I was not criticizing anyone for a little help, or even a lot of help. I was just criticizing hypocrits who criticize IAC for getting a lot of help, while harboring people who never fought to get the space they got. Like your pets.
Oh Malachon, my personal pet project. I know it is hard for you to understand just about anything that goes on around here. Keep up the good work you do within the alliance though, i'm sure someday someone will care :)
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EnacheV1
Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.10.04 09:54:00 -
[222]
When the last coalition IAC tower died there were 250 alliance people and 400 coalition people in the system.
That's the most important thing for me. Looks like 3:1 it's the magic number for win. ------ Ofc "this is my opinion and not that of my Alliance".
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.10.04 10:05:00 -
[223]
Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Edited by: Alice Cholmondeley on 04/10/2007 09:54:49
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Are the bitter tears you shed making it hard to read Alice? I was not criticizing anyone for a little help, or even a lot of help. I was just criticizing hypocrits who criticize IAC for getting a lot of help, while harboring people who never fought to get the space they got. Like your pets.
Oh Malachon, my personal pet project. I know it is hard for you to understand just about anything that goes on around here. Keep up the good work you do within the alliance though, i'm sure someday someone will care :)
Edit for Gob: you'd be amazed 
Thanks, you just confirmed how clueless you are. You're a joke, trying to psyche people out with little tidbits of hearsay and innuendo. Nice try, but you just made a mistake.
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Del369
Caldari Office linebackers Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.04 10:06:00 -
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Edited by: Del369 on 04/10/2007 10:09:44
Originally by: EnacheV1 When the ONLY coalition IAC tower to have died in FAT in the last 2 (yes two) weeks there were 250 alliance people and 400 coalition people in the system.
That's the most important thing for me. Looks like 3:1 it's the magic number for win.
When i logged off last night in FAT (late Euro time) it was 9-1 for your side, your point ? edit* fixed your quote for you 
Originally by: Saladin Edit: I never post disclaimers in any of my more contrversial posts because I think anyone who thinks I am speaking for anyone other than myself is a muppet anyways.
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.04 10:19:00 -
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Originally by: EnacheV1 When the last coalition IAC tower died there were 250 alliance people and 400 coalition people in the system.
That's the most important thing for me. Looks like 3:1 it's the magic number for win.
how many Carriers dreads and moms had each side? Simple numbers alone don 't tell whoel story nowadays.
Also on uber lag fight you need a bit of luck. Lag may hit a bit more one side than other and that is enoguh to unbalance stuff) Lag fightign is nothign about skills.
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Maximillian Bayonette
Baleful Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.10.04 10:20:00 -
[226]
Originally by: Del369 Edited by: Del369 on 04/10/2007 10:09:44
Originally by: EnacheV1 When the ONLY coalition IAC tower to have died in FAT in the last 2 (yes two) weeks there were 250 alliance people and 400 coalition people in the system.
That's the most important thing for me. Looks like 3:1 it's the magic number for win.
edit* fixed your quote for you 
Are you serious? Have you forgotten about all the other IAC towers that has been popped or do you really not know about them?
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Sophie Rebecca
British Aerospace Inc
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Posted - 2007.10.04 10:20:00 -
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Originally by: Del369 Edited by: Del369 on 04/10/2007 10:09:44
Originally by: EnacheV1 When the ONLY coalition IAC tower to have died in FAT in the last 2 (yes two) weeks there were 250 alliance people and 400 coalition people in the system.
That's the most important thing for me. Looks like 3:1 it's the magic number for win.
When i logged off last night in FAT (late Euro time) it was 9-1 for your side, your point ? edit* fixed your quote for you 
Check ur facts before posting,,
FAT 4-1 Insidious IAC - DEAD FAT 9-14 Infinity Enterprises IAC - DEAD ED- 7-3 VVS -A- - DEAD FAT 3-7 IAC - DEAD
And as for this
Originally by: Malachon Draco IAC gets under a huge attack and plans for the best strategic time when they and their allies can defend it. I bet AAA prefer IAC doing this than letting them come out at midnight when it would mean the Russians would have to stand idly by or do a middle of the night alarmclock op to save the POS.
And what is worse in any case, IAC depending on allies in case of a huge attack, or all the BoB pets...sorry, renters whose whole existence in 0.0 is dependent on big daddy BoB handing them space as well as save their asses whenever a baddy comes along.
LOL just lol, sir you have failed, walk away from the forums to prevent urself looking like more of an idiot!
When IAC is blobbed its allies coming to help when they get bailed, when FIX for example get blobbed and get allies to help its cos they are weak and dont deserve to be in 0.0, come on thats the argument skills of a 5 year old right there.
What have Invictus done of note? what significant space or history do you hold? go away insignificant troll. LOL
It would have been nice to see FIX and IAC go at it but Alliance warfare has become this bind of allies helping each other so the blobs will continue.
I also dispute a lot of IAC's timelie views, it was IAC/BOS/POS/The Reckoning and -A- that attacked FIX and got stuck for nearly 2 months. THEN MC joined in and you cryed blob, the KB's and forum posts all support this so stop believeing the lies your being told on your forums.
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Del369
Caldari Office linebackers Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.04 10:28:00 -
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Edited by: Del369 on 04/10/2007 10:35:52 Edited by: Del369 on 04/10/2007 10:28:56
Originally by: Sophie Rebecca
Originally by: Del369 Edited by: Del369 on 04/10/2007 10:09:44
Originally by: EnacheV1 When the ONLY coalition IAC tower to have died in FAT in the last 2 (yes two) weeks there were 250 alliance people and 400 coalition people in the system.
That's the most important thing for me. Looks like 3:1 it's the magic number for win.
When i logged off last night in FAT (late Euro time) it was 9-1 for your side, your point ? edit* fixed your quote for you 
Check ur facts before posting,,
FAT 4-1 Insidious IAC - DEAD FAT 9-14 Infinity Enterprises IAC - DEAD ED- 7-3 VVS -A- - DEAD FAT 3-7 IAC - DEAD
And as for this
Originally by: Malachon Draco IAC gets under a huge attack and plans for the best strategic time when they and their allies can defend it. I bet AAA prefer IAC doing this than letting them come out at midnight when it would mean the Russians would have to stand idly by or do a middle of the night alarmclock op to save the POS.
And what is worse in any case, IAC depending on allies in case of a huge attack, or all the BoB pets...sorry, renters whose whole existence in 0.0 is dependent on big daddy BoB handing them space as well as save their asses whenever a baddy comes along.
LOL just lol, sir you have failed, walk away from the forums to prevent urself looking like more of an idiot!
When IAC is blobbed its allies coming to help when they get bailed, when FIX for example get blobbed and get allies to help its cos they are weak and dont deserve to be in 0.0, come on thats the argument skills of a 5 year old right there.
What have Invictus done of note? what significant space or history do you hold? go away insignificant troll. LOL
It would have been nice to see FIX and IAC go at it but Alliance warfare has become this bind of allies helping each other so the blobs will continue.
I also dispute a lot of IAC's timelie views, it was IAC/BOS/POS/The Reckoning and -A- that attacked FIX and got stuck for nearly 2 months. THEN MC joined in and you cryed blob, the KB's and forum posts all support this so stop believeing the lies your being told on your forums.
oh wow my bad mistake, you got a whole 3 of ours in FAT in 2 weeks, aren't you just the uber ickle alt, well well done braincell you really pwn'd me there still extremely crap since you threw everything AND the kitchen sink at us and that's all you could manage don't ya think ? oh and how about you post with your nutless main ? edit 2, uhm you sent mc in to save fix, then you had to start throwing the pets in one by one to save both mc and fix, in fact you had to eventually throw in everything AND the kitchen sink to save them, and it's still not enough 
Originally by: Saladin Edit: I never post disclaimers in any of my more contrversial posts because I think anyone who thinks I am speaking for anyone other than myself is a muppet anyways.
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Maximillian Bayonette
Baleful Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.10.04 10:39:00 -
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Originally by: Del369
oh wow my bad mistake, you got a whole 3 of ours in FAT in 2 weeks, aren't you just the uber ickle alt, well well done braincell you really pwn'd me there still extremely crap since you threw everything AND the kitchen sink at us and that's all you could manage don't ya think ? oh and how about you post with your nutless main ?
Personally I don't blame you for making that mistake. I've only interested myself in the Catch conflict these last weeks since I left MM, and I've found it to be very hard to get solid facts with the number of alts from both sides tossing figures here and there. It does seem like there's some revisionist history in the making from IAC these last few days though, and there's a whole lot more smack than is really called for. I don't know if the Alliance smacks in FAT local, but on these boards it's really the Coalition doing all the smacking.
25s seems to have fallen quickly enough, and it is only -A- and RED that are really slowing the advance the Alliance is making in FAT. This seems to be the truth of the situation when facts are gathered from here and SHC. Is this a faulty assumption?
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Sophie Rebecca
British Aerospace Inc
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Posted - 2007.10.04 10:40:00 -
[230]
Edited by: Sophie Rebecca on 04/10/2007 10:41:26
Originally by: Del369 oh wow my bad mistake, you got a whole 3 of ours in FAT in 2 weeks, aren't you just the uber ickle alt, well well done braincell you really pwn'd me there still extremely crap since you threw everything AND the kitchen sink at us and that's all you could manage don't ya think ? oh and how about you post with your nutless main ? edit 2, uhm you sent mc in to save fix, then you had to start throwing the pets in one by one to save both mc and fix, in fact you had to eventually throw in everything AND the kitchen sink to save them, and it's still not enough 
I am a min you plank, I enjoy watching the wars and politics and have plenty of friends in alliances for info.
Tell me how many IAC caps re-inforced the BOB and MC POS's? how many IAC caps were defending FAT yesterday?
Being in IAC's position I wouldnt be throwing mud about calling in friends to "save" FIX, and no I didnt send anyone anywhere.
Those POS's were actually lost in the past week not even two and theres more to go arent there? how many IAC pos's in re-inforced at the moment, hows the cyno jammer or station services in FAT?
For that matter hows the 25S station?
Oh and dont forget to time your next towers for YOUR primetime  |
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.10.04 10:43:00 -
[231]
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Edited by: Alice Cholmondeley on 04/10/2007 09:54:49
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Are the bitter tears you shed making it hard to read Alice? I was not criticizing anyone for a little help, or even a lot of help. I was just criticizing hypocrits who criticize IAC for getting a lot of help, while harboring people who never fought to get the space they got. Like your pets.
Oh Malachon, my personal pet project. I know it is hard for you to understand just about anything that goes on around here. Keep up the good work you do within the alliance though, i'm sure someday someone will care :)
Edit for Gob: you'd be amazed 
Thanks, you just confirmed how clueless you are. You're a joke, trying to psyche people out with little tidbits of hearsay and innuendo. Nice try, but you just made a mistake.
Hes trolling you mal stop falling for it =p
- Gob
Stealth bombers work! |

Alice Cholmondeley
I Am Legend
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Posted - 2007.10.04 10:44:00 -
[232]
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Thanks, you just confirmed how clueless you are. You're a joke, trying to psyche people out with little tidbits of hearsay and innuendo. Nice try, but you just made a mistake.
You should really stop caring Malachon, it's what you do. |

Del369
Caldari Office linebackers Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.04 10:48:00 -
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Edited by: Del369 on 04/10/2007 10:49:57
Originally by: Maximillian Bayonette
Originally by: Del369
oh wow my bad mistake, you got a whole 3 of ours in FAT in 2 weeks, aren't you just the uber ickle alt, well well done braincell you really pwn'd me there still extremely crap since you threw everything AND the kitchen sink at us and that's all you could manage don't ya think ? oh and how about you post with your nutless main ?
Personally I don't blame you for making that mistake. I've only interested myself in the Catch conflict these last weeks since I left MM, and I've found it to be very hard to get solid facts with the number of alts from both sides tossing figures here and there. It does seem like there's some revisionist history in the making from IAC these last few days though, and there's a whole lot more smack than is really called for. I don't know if the Alliance smacks in FAT local, but on these boards it's really the Coalition doing all the smacking.
25s seems to have fallen quickly enough, and it is only -A- and RED that are really slowing the advance the Alliance is making in FAT. This seems to be the truth of the situation when facts are gathered from here and SHC. Is this a faulty assumption?
if you check where the smack is originating from you'll see it mainly starts with bitter alts from long dead alliances spewing their pathetic drivel (imho) as for red and a slowing the advance, you can also turn that on it's head and say that it's only because they moved EVERYTHING into the fight that they are getting any pos's at all, and 3 in 2 weeks, it's hardly spectacular is it ?. to the nutless alt, i know your a min m8 
Originally by: Saladin Edit: I never post disclaimers in any of my more contrversial posts because I think anyone who thinks I am speaking for anyone other than myself is a muppet anyways.
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Maximillian Bayonette
Baleful Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.10.04 10:51:00 -
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Originally by: Del369
if you check where the smack is originating from you'll see it mainly starts with bitter alts from long dead alliances spewing their pathetic drivel (imho) as for red and a slowing the advance, you can also turn that on it's head and say that it's only because they moved EVERYTHING into the fight that they are getting anywhere at all. to the nutless alt, i know your a min m8 
Yes, you are right. It's mostly an alt that starts all the ruckus. What I don't get is why people are so quick to jump on it. You are of course right about the other part too, but my question still stands. It seems the Alliance is making (albeit slow) progress in FAT. Can the coalition hold the system?
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Rochel Hakiri
principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.04 11:08:00 -
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Edited by: Rochel Hakiri on 04/10/2007 11:08:13 Sooo shall we let the Alt brigade finish this thread?
Can't wait till BoB wins something, so they can (again) post with their mains..
Anywyas, little clue/ball/nuts/ less alts.. the thread is yours..
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Isabel Sweet
Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.04 11:12:00 -
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Edited by: Isabel Sweet on 04/10/2007 11:16:02
Originally by: Lube Myholes Hush, back in your cage BOB alt or your alliance m8 Isabel Sweet will pod you, have you forget about that ?[/quote
I will if i find who is it. But the problem in this matter is that u are a coward alt too. And i hate cowards, no matter what side they think they are. But i will troll only cowards that post proBoB because in that case is personal (ingame personal of course - i roleplay).
Goodbye dear sir and try to find the courage to post with your main.
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Del369
Caldari Office linebackers Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.04 11:19:00 -
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Originally by: Maximillian Bayonette
Originally by: Del369
if you check where the smack is originating from you'll see it mainly starts with bitter alts from long dead alliances spewing their pathetic drivel (imho) as for red and a slowing the advance, you can also turn that on it's head and say that it's only because they moved EVERYTHING into the fight that they are getting anywhere at all. to the nutless alt, i know your a min m8 
Yes, you are right. It's mostly an alt that starts all the ruckus. What I don't get is why people are so quick to jump on it. You are of course right about the other part too, but my question still stands. It seems the Alliance is making (albeit slow) progress in FAT. Can the coalition hold the system?
well what are we expected to do, let them just endlessly spew their drivel ? i'd be all for a better enforcement of rules and a proper alliance forum tbh ? can we hold the system ? who knows, tbqh i'd say atm it can go either way, and maybe cirumstances will change (eg bob starts losing lots of it's territory elsewhere, or pets change sides etc etc) basically they want to destroy iac, but it's something they've wanted to do since the 1st mcfix invasion (this is number 3) but we are still here.... 
Originally by: Saladin Edit: I never post disclaimers in any of my more contrversial posts because I think anyone who thinks I am speaking for anyone other than myself is a muppet anyways.
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Mynas Atoch
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.04 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: Del369 if you check where the smack is originating from you'll see it mainly starts with bitter alts from long dead alliances spewing their pathetic drivel (imho) as for red and a slowing the advance, you can also turn that on it's head and say that it's only because they moved EVERYTHING into the fight that they are getting any pos's at all, and 3 in 2 weeks, it's hardly spectacular is it ?. to the nutless alt, i know your a min m8 
del, chill. get that filter script thing for firefox and add the alts to it. Life becomes much more relaxing. If you want our view on what happened, just ask, either here or ingame. And accept that we see it differently without getting upset over it. All I was trying to explain to those that aren't involved, was the different outcome between the five towers that died and the one that survived was down to timezone.
We had some excellent fun yesterday, capped with a most horrendous lagfest. We attack when we think we can win. We hold when we can't. When its a waste of time, we go do something else. You guys do the same. Only the idiots and the alts expect different. Yesterday at various points both sides thought they could win, or at the very least that it was worth engaging. EVE is always better when that happens, regardless of who is who and how many are on each side.
More days like yesterday, please, only with less people in system.
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Del369
Caldari Office linebackers Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.04 11:33:00 -
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Originally by: Mynas Atoch
Originally by: Del369 if you check where the smack is originating from you'll see it mainly starts with bitter alts from long dead alliances spewing their pathetic drivel (imho) as for red and a slowing the advance, you can also turn that on it's head and say that it's only because they moved EVERYTHING into the fight that they are getting any pos's at all, and 3 in 2 weeks, it's hardly spectacular is it ?. to the nutless alt, i know your a min m8 
del, chill. get that filter script thing for firefox and add the alts to it. Life becomes much more relaxing. If you want our view on what happened, just ask, either here or ingame. And accept that we see it differently without getting upset over it. All I was trying to explain to those that aren't involved, was the different outcome between the five towers that died and the one that survived was down to timezone.
We had some excellent fun yesterday, capped with a most horrendous lagfest. We attack when we think we can win. We hold when we can't. When its a waste of time, we go do something else. You guys do the same. Only the idiots and the alts expect different. Yesterday at various points both sides thought they could win, or at the very least that it was worth engaging. EVE is always better when that happens, regardless of who is who and how many are on each side.
More days like yesterday, please, only with less people in system.
Do i look bovvered Mynas ? I am chilled m8, yesterday wasn't fun for us though, our side didn't load the fight grids, at least most of us didnt, I sat at that 3-1 pos for 5 mins, then thought i had better gtfo there as nothing was loading, i clicked warp, 15 whole minutes later, with the same handful o friendly ships on screen as when i'd warped in i finally warped out, still with nothing else loaded, and from ts (for iac at least) it was the same story. how the hell you guys were repping carriers, deploying fighters and actually killing stuff i'll never know tbh (and i refuse to put the handy hat of tin foil on here)  so no more days like yesterday please  i still have you in my address book btw, from the apology you sent me after the count stabbed iac in the back when he napped cc while we were engaging them defending iss space. possibly the catalyst to this whole malarky 
Originally by: Saladin Edit: I never post disclaimers in any of my more contrversial posts because I think anyone who thinks I am speaking for anyone other than myself is a muppet anyways.
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Zylatis
Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.04 11:39:00 -
[240]
Can't we all just get along?
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Scavok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.04 11:42:00 -
[241]
Edited by: Scavok on 04/10/2007 11:42:24
Originally by: Mynas Atoch
More days like yesterday, please, only with less people in system.
Send some of your *****es to feyth or we're going to keep coming 
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Wigglytuff
Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.04 11:44:00 -
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Originally by: Moonlight Express
Originally by: Wigglytuff
Originally by: Kraken Sra'vik Hmm, didn't CCP put a system cap on a BoB system that was invaded...
They've done it a few times, the specific Bob incident you're thinking of is likely when the coalition was going after a 'titan' that turned out to be a mothership, iirc they put the 700 player cap in place, and had they not, the other 2000 or so players from both sides trying to get there would've likely crashed the node, if not the server as a whole in the process.
Cap was also used when LV's baby titan was killed iirc.
Do you make up things as you go along or you just repeat the crap that someone feeds you without knowing the facts?
First of all, the Titan that turned out to be Mother ship TURNED OUT TO BE EMPTY POS! All the capitals that were killed in that fight still hold the record of most capitals lost in a single battle. It was also known by opposition that it was not a baby Titan in the POS to begin with and it was held secret from their member, so basically they were all sacrificed.
Second, there was no cap limit on systems when LV lost their baby Titan, thatÆs why there was no way to defend 1K+ blob from crashing the node and thatÆs why CCP introduced the 700 cap limit in the first place.
Get your facts strait if you are going to repeat propaganda on CAOD or someone WILL call you out on in. This time, that someone is me. 
You do realize they killed an empty pos, believing it was the 'titan' (ms) right? They went in looking for a titan kill and got an empty pos, it doesn't change the facts of that situation (coalition believing it was killing a titan, a MS was being made not a titan, system cap was in place). Doesn't matter that the lower ranking guys didn't know, or that they hit the wrong pos, you can ***** about who of what position knew what, my point was that I was clarifying Kraken's statement.
I'd thought at some point CCP put the cap on the LV raid due to the constant node crashed people kept *****ing about, guess not, my bad.
Also, why the hell would I spread propaganda? I have nothing at stake in that south war unless people one day can claim lowsec systems. Not everyone's made for trolling like you are.
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Sophie Rebecca
British Aerospace Inc
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Posted - 2007.10.04 11:45:00 -
[243]
Del369,
Take a deep breath m8, my post questioned the IAC timeline, you then went off the deep end with the "joo noob" comments.
You then got my attitude back and have totally ignored the questions I posed cos either you cant or dont want to answer them.
Go back and read my first post and You'll see I'd love to have seen just IAC and FIX going at it, would have made for a better conflict imo.
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Silvestri
Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.04 11:47:00 -
[244]
Respect Mynas...as usual. I think this thread needs to just die now or be locked. It ran it's course and it was not really that fun reading so much bickering. Just let this thread die now....
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Pilk
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.10.04 12:42:00 -
[245]
Originally by: Del369
Originally by: Tom McCash
Originally by: Rochel Hakiri He was talking about creating a thread, anyways CCP : Welp!!!
40 minutes and counting ...
lemme play ma game please
Stop expecting fun with these numbers. This is technical not possible.
Stob blobbing (i mean both sides). Maybe then you can expect fun.
Till then : Dont blame CCP for your own faults
we would quite happily leave it at just us and FIX
So that's why you attacked 49-U with BOS? And then, shortly afterwards, when you couldn't push past FIX, -A-? That doesn't seem like someone spoiling for a heads-up war.
Tell me, just how big is IAC's capital fleet? I'm pretty sure FIX can field more dreadnoughts than you by a factor of two; they brought over twenty to one of our ops in 49- over a month ago. FIX v IAC, 1v1, is a fight you do not want and cannot win.
Regardless, though, it's all smoke, mirrors, and hot air. We'll likely never know what would happen if IAC attacked FIX solo, barring the short period of time when IAC attacked FIX solo* and FIX defended spectacularly-well. What we have now is, I believe, technically referred to as a "cluster****", and there's nothing for it but to keep fighting these 250 v. 400 lagfests until someone gives up. We'll know soon.
--P
*: Note: Not solo.
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Mynas Atoch
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.04 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: Pilk So that's why you attacked 49-U with BOS? And then, shortly afterwards, when you couldn't push past FIX, -A-? That doesn't seem like someone spoiling for a heads-up war.
I'm pretty sure AAA didn't get involved until MC did, and we intervened reluctantly after The Reckoning's cap fleet got involved. Even then we had no initial plans to deploy ANY capitals - just prevent FIX getting rolled over while we had a Titan in build. BOS was not a factor we considered relevant. But gradually it escalated, and both sides are responsible for that.
This isn't the first time either side have misjudged an opponents response to their own escalation. It won't be the last.
Myn .
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Andargor theWise
Collateral Damage Unlimited Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.04 13:00:00 -
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Edited by: Andargor theWise on 04/10/2007 13:00:27
The smack is mainly on the forums, tbh. Ban those alts. 
We are routinely joking with McBobFix in local, smack is few and far between, and gets usually scolded by alliance-mates when it happens.
Respect. - Stop the Feature Glut: Take the API to the Next Level
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.04 13:09:00 -
[248]
Originally by: Mynas Atoch
Originally by: Pilk So that's why you attacked 49-U with BOS? And then, shortly afterwards, when you couldn't push past FIX, -A-? That doesn't seem like someone spoiling for a heads-up war.
I'm pretty sure AAA didn't get involved until MC did, and we intervened reluctantly after The Reckoning's cap fleet got involved. Even then we had no initial plans to deploy ANY capitals - just prevent FIX getting rolled over while we had a Titan in build. BOS was not a factor we considered relevant. But gradually it escalated, and both sides are responsible for that.
This isn't the first time either side have misjudged an opponents response to their own escalation. It won't be the last.
Myn .
Pretty much the true on a precise measure I would say.
If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough |

Barthezz
Paradox v2.0
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Posted - 2007.10.04 13:13:00 -
[249]
Originally by: Mynas Atoch I'm pretty sure AAA didn't get involved until MC did, and we intervened reluctantly after The Reckoning's cap fleet got involved. Even then we had no initial plans to deploy ANY capitals - just prevent FIX getting rolled over while we had a Titan in build. BOS was not a factor we considered relevant. But gradually it escalated, and both sides are responsible for that.
This isn't the first time either side have misjudged an opponents response to their own escalation. It won't be the last.
Myn .
I'm not 100% sure but I also think AAA only got involved after MC got involved. At least in 49-. And BoB only got involved once ED- almost fell. I still think ED- would have fallen if lag wasnt as bad as it was.
That said, IAC did have BoS and The Reckoning on their side. However Fix wasnt just Fix either, it included several other factions as well.
To me those where the fun times, after that things got 'too big' and laggy, ruined the fun. But such is life in eve-alliance warfare. ---
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Sophie Rebecca
British Aerospace Inc
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Posted - 2007.10.04 13:40:00 -
[250]
Actually I think -A- attacked ED- on the 12th July.
-A-'s first tower was placed in ED- on the 16th July
MC then started to support FIX on the 25th July
thats the timeline I have. |
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.04 13:44:00 -
[251]
Originally by: Sophie Rebecca Actually I think -A- attacked ED- on the 12th July.
-A-'s first tower was placed in ED- on the 16th July
MC then started to support FIX on the 25th July
thats the timeline I have.
Maybe first active MC combat. But we had seen MC Motherships near 49 way earlier, and "alternative sources of information" pointed MC was already "hired" to come help FIX. At end there was not MUCh fighting with AAA or MC without the other on field. It was a FIX-IAC fight then became McFix - IAAAC fight. Then McBoBFIX - IAAC then McBOBFix vs IRAAAC fight. And I hope stop there, the tickers for these groups are already ridiculous enough.
If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough |

Del369
Caldari Office linebackers Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.04 13:52:00 -
[252]
ok so we are all agreed at last, now i have iskies to make :) my apologies to the alt/min that i seem to have offended, sorry m8 with alt spew flying everywhere if you got caught innocently in the crossfire my sincere apologies 
Originally by: Saladin Edit: I never post disclaimers in any of my more contrversial posts because I think anyone who thinks I am speaking for anyone other than myself is a muppet anyways.
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Hellaciouss
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.04 14:15:00 -
[253]
Originally by: Pilk Useless drivel
Pilk you really should stop posting. You're starting to get owned by your own Allies (see: Mynas Atoch post) when you go off on one of your "I know everything" tirades when you actually don't know ****.
And about your earlier comment about some of our Allies not having space - Do you see any of them smacking on the forums?
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Royaldo
Gallente KVA Noble Inc. Institute of Cooperative Education
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Posted - 2007.10.04 14:24:00 -
[254]
Originally by: Moonlight Express
Originally by: Wigglytuff
Originally by: Kraken Sra'vik Hmm, didn't CCP put a system cap on a BoB system that was invaded...
They've done it a few times, the specific Bob incident you're thinking of is likely when the coalition was going after a 'titan' that turned out to be a mothership, iirc they put the 700 player cap in place, and had they not, the other 2000 or so players from both sides trying to get there would've likely crashed the node, if not the server as a whole in the process.
Cap was also used when LV's baby titan was killed iirc.
Do you make up things as you go along or you just repeat the crap that someone feeds you without knowing the facts?
First of all, the Titan that turned out to be Mother ship TURNED OUT TO BE EMPTY POS! All the capitals that were killed in that fight still hold the record of most capitals lost in a single battle. It was also known by opposition that it was not a baby Titan in the POS to begin with and it was held secret from their member, so basically they were all sacrificed.
Second, there was no cap limit on systems when LV lost their baby Titan, thatÆs why there was no way to defend 1K+ blob from crashing the node and thatÆs why CCP introduced the 700 cap limit in the first place.
Get your facts strait if you are going to repeat propaganda on CAOD or someone WILL call you out on in. This time, that someone is me. 
you are an alt. how ******* ******** are you? bragging about posting with an alt? 1. did he mention anything about the cap ships? no he didnt. learn to read moron. 2. the cap was put there to save bob's ass. fact! get more ccp help you chicken****alt 3. buhuu about sekrit stuff withheld.. like hell bob doesnt lie their ass of to say rise..
Why cant you just for once post with your main?
You can point out wrong fact's posted by others but it wont watter, cus you are an alt. Some tiny 7 stone 17 year old alt. And thats a fact till you boy learn to post with your main. how afraid must 1 be to not post with their main char in a game? too add on that, why did you chose to have a girl for avatar? cus you got no balls..?
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Damir36
Gallente PPN United Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.10.04 14:26:00 -
[255]
Originally by: Pilk Originally by: Hellaciouss You know, I keep seeing you smack all over the forums, so I asked myself, "Who are these AXE guys?
Are you suggesting, then, that Burn Eden, 0utbreak, and oooh Shiny are all worthless? They don't hold any outposts, either. Indeed, if the price of admission to 0.0 combat is owning an outpost, why was BOS doing the heavy lifting for you guys in 49-U? They hold no stations.
Well Pilk, I think I remember shooting yo once... but the Guys you mentioned above, in diffrece to you they never owned a complete Region 
Oh ****, for this comment I will get yelled at by my CEO, but read Pilk once to often.
For the Fight in Fat: First Fight of the day was ok, reasonable Module Activation times and reloading possible, a bit laggy at the end as I tried to repair my Alt and some other ppls Armordamage. I think this first round could be said that the MCBOBFIX..."won" as they managed to destroy a Carrier that miswarped. I don`t know about IAC, but our Kills and losses otherwise where fairly even. The second fight was pure frustration. Sat there in my Alts Mega, waiting 15 Min for Grid to load, than 10 Minutes for locking and another ten for weaponactivation. After that only one Gun reloaded and was shot empty while the Rest of the guns still tried to reload. I tried to stop aligning but my BS just flew on. 10 Minutes later I was out of Optirange, 5 Minutes later I was out of lockingrange still screaming at my ship to stop and that Dread to die. Then I spammed the warp to Button a couple of times and watched TV till about 30 Minutes later I warped to the POS and had another 15 Minutes of Gridloading. I think the fight was over by then...
Not funny CCP
Grn¯e Damir
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Sophie Rebecca
British Aerospace Inc
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Posted - 2007.10.04 14:28:00 -
[256]
Originally by: Del369 ok so we are all agreed at last, now i have iskies to make :) my apologies to the alt/min that i seem to have offended, sorry m8 with alt spew flying everywhere if you got caught innocently in the crossfire my sincere apologies 
Min / Main potatoe, patato 
I'll agree theres a lot of ALT smack and drivel in here and I dont think I was smacking or driveling, I did post a few facts.
I dont pretend to be involved, I stopped with mass alliance warfare on my previous main a long time ago when it became the lag gamble it is today, since then he sits skill training and this char runs industry to save some isk for when the servers get sorted out, but I do have a lot of friend on all sides, IAC / FIX / BOB / MC / CVA / MM / PURE you name them I know people in them so I enjoy hearing things from both sides.
As for the whole who joined in who first my opinion is it looks like -A- and IAC dogpiled FIX then MC reacted, but my friends arent in the top chans of IAC so I dont know what intel you get. I'm also supprised MC's titan was in build at the time, I was under the impression that it had been built some months ago.
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Del369
Caldari Office linebackers Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.04 14:37:00 -
[257]
Originally by: Sophie Rebecca
Originally by: Del369 ok so we are all agreed at last, now i have iskies to make :) my apologies to the alt/min that i seem to have offended, sorry m8 with alt spew flying everywhere if you got caught innocently in the crossfire my sincere apologies 
Min / Main potatoe, patato 
I'll agree theres a lot of ALT smack and drivel in here and I dont think I was smacking or driveling, I did post a few facts.
I dont pretend to be involved, I stopped with mass alliance warfare on my previous main a long time ago when it became the lag gamble it is today, since then he sits skill training and this char runs industry to save some isk for when the servers get sorted out, but I do have a lot of friend on all sides, IAC / FIX / BOB / MC / CVA / MM / PURE you name them I know people in them so I enjoy hearing things from both sides.
As for the whole who joined in who first my opinion is it looks like -A- and IAC dogpiled FIX then MC reacted, but my friends arent in the top chans of IAC so I dont know what intel you get. I'm also supprised MC's titan was in build at the time, I was under the impression that it had been built some months ago.
So personally I think Pilk is right more than Mynas is but hey ho.
mc got involved way back when mcfix tried to eradicate us the 1st time, that wasn't long after the count back stabbed us, so in a nutshell pilks about as right as letting michael jackson babysit your kids 
Originally by: Saladin Edit: I never post disclaimers in any of my more contrversial posts because I think anyone who thinks I am speaking for anyone other than myself is a muppet anyways.
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Sophie Rebecca
British Aerospace Inc
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Posted - 2007.10.04 14:43:00 -
[258]
Originally by: Del369 mc got involved way back when mcfix tried to eradicate us the 1st time, that wasn't long after the count back stabbed us, so in a nutshell pilks about as right as letting michael jackson babysit your kids 
Ah now thats very true, if we go that far back, ISS threw the first stone, FIX got brought a long for s**ts and giggles.
Then there were the 10 FIX towers dropped in FAT a few months before this recent conflict kicked off.
Funny thing is that without prohibition IAC and FIX would probably been good neighbors, there are striking simularities between the two. |

Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.04 14:52:00 -
[259]
Originally by: Royaldo
2. the cap was put there to save bob's ass. fact! get more ccp help you chicken****alt
There was no system cap, seriously.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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Kubera
Amarr Rakasha Legion
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Posted - 2007.10.04 15:06:00 -
[260]
Originally by: All of you
Rabble! Rabble Rabble! His fault! Her fault! You're wrong! We roxxor! CCP'S FAULT!
As "entertaining" as this banter is, despite the obvious lag what has been killed and lost? Hardly think this situation would warrant a battle report per se, but how about a body count?
If you guys can get over accusing each other of various backstabs and mis deeds.
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Del369
Caldari Office linebackers Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.04 15:07:00 -
[261]
Originally by: Sophie Rebecca
Originally by: Del369 mc got involved way back when mcfix tried to eradicate us the 1st time, that wasn't long after the count back stabbed us, so in a nutshell pilks about as right as letting michael jackson babysit your kids 
Ah now thats very true, if we go that far back, ISS threw the first stone, FIX got brought a long for s**ts and giggles.
Then there were the 10 FIX towers dropped in FAT a few months before this recent conflict kicked off.
Funny thing is that without prohibition IAC and FIX would probably been good neighbors, there are striking simularities between the two.
quite correct, apparantly Seleenes meglomaniacal dreams included "removing" us, god knows why fix got involved, but they did, and now we are here, dunno what Tyraxx ever shoved up Seleenes dress but he/she/it obviously didn't see the funny side 
Originally by: Saladin Edit: I never post disclaimers in any of my more contrversial posts because I think anyone who thinks I am speaking for anyone other than myself is a muppet anyways.
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laotse
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.10.04 15:08:00 -
[262]
so the bob mc laggg machine workt again http://80.126.192.128:8888/tfd/uploads/1121735338/gallery_11_8_1124480365.jpg
Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes |

CaptainMiller
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Posted - 2007.10.04 15:38:00 -
[263]
Edited by: CaptainMiller on 04/10/2007 15:46:54 edit wrong character and it was smack
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Pnuka
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.04 15:47:00 -
[264]
Originally by: CaptainMiller
Originally by: Del369
oh wow my bad mistake, you got a whole 3 of ours in FAT in 2 weeks
So you admit you were wrong and just spewing crap out of your ass? See why noone likes you? Because you just yell and scream like a child with no real merit.
With a name like Operation Steamroller, I think we were expecting a bit more is all.
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Del369
Caldari Office linebackers Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.04 15:47:00 -
[265]
Originally by: CaptainMiller
Originally by: Del369
oh wow my bad mistake, you got a whole 3 of ours in FAT in 2 weeks
So you admit you were wrong and just spewing crap out of your ass? See why noone likes you? Because you just yell and scream like a child with no real merit.
lol don't this nutless alt just beat all, go and find the balls to post with your main son.
Originally by: Saladin Edit: I never post disclaimers in any of my more contrversial posts because I think anyone who thinks I am speaking for anyone other than myself is a muppet anyways.
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Silent butViolent
Harder Better Faster Stronger
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Posted - 2007.10.04 16:04:00 -
[266]
Look guys, it's simple. To those who say "Don't Blob" you're complete wastes of bandwidth. How are you NOT going to defend your home with EVERYTHING you have?
And do you honestly think that if IAC said to BoB "We're bringing 100 people in BS into FAT, that's it, come fight us clean and no lag." BoB would oblige? No...because...
CYVOK tried that. In the ASCN conflict, he offered a fair fight to BoB with no one else in the system and BoB balked. Was it because they realized a fair fight 50v50 would be a coin flip? Probably. Was it because they realized that their tactic was working (inty / speed HAC gangs to annihilate ASCN solo'ers/ratters/etc and they didn't have the hardware to compete? Who knows.
I can say BoB's invasion of ASCN was intimidating, I was there. Invasion of IAC? Can't really call it that yet, and I'm not there...but hearing reports from BOTH sides I don't think it's anything but "spicy", and that's pushing it.  |

larietta
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.10.04 16:15:00 -
[267]
blah cant you see from that screen shot i was bloded
Originally by: PCaBoo
Originally by: larietta i had abit ov lag but not much i play will all effects off and graphics off eve looks some thing like this Linkage
wow you fail! Your high score sux! 
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bulabuba
Gallente Klima Galactic
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Posted - 2007.10.04 16:31:00 -
[268]
Well, if you clear away all the flames and the smoke that goes with them, what you see going on here is good stuff. The alliance is mounting a hard, sustained attack, the coalition is putting up a hard, determined defense and (at least for right now) being slowly but surely pushed back. Classic test of will. Props to everyone involved.
Whether IAC/Red/AAA and others are able to hold, or whether their line breaks and IAC gets removed from the field, there is no doubt that the implications for morale and strategic position on both sides are huge.
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Are GoonSwarm ever going to be allowed to build up in any way in 0.0 space again? No.
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Aldee
Federated Holdings
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Posted - 2007.10.04 16:53:00 -
[269]
We all know what must be done.....time to shard Jita Fat
/me has been reading general discussion to much 
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Calexis Atredies
Quantum Industries Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.04 16:58:00 -
[270]
I have an idea for CCP... Come fleet engagements ENGAGE RTS MODE!! Where you nominated FC becomes the commander and you dont do sh** but sit in front of a blank screen till you die, at which point a message appears saying "sorry for your loss but we dont give a crap".
Hell at least it would be better than floating aroud in your tin can waiting to be popped... think of it as star wars crossed with C&C, ah C&C... those were the good old days 
Even better how about a turn based alternative!! 
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LifeLines
m3 Corp Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 17:24:00 -
[271]
ok so every system has its own node, yes? i wonder would it be possible to add additional nodes that work like this...
X system has 300 players in it, terrible lag. The server detects high player count in that system and "attaches" more CPU power from "emergency" nodes? :S im no IT pro, just sharing my thoughts..
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.04 17:30:00 -
[272]
Originally by: bulabuba Well, if you clear away all the flames and the smoke that goes with them, what you see going on here is good stuff. The alliance is mounting a hard, sustained attack, the coalition is putting up a hard, determined defense and (at least for right now) being slowly but surely pushed back. Classic test of will. Props to everyone involved.
Whether IAC/Red/AAA and others are able to hold, or whether their line breaks and IAC gets removed from the field, there is no doubt that the implications for morale and strategic position on both sides are huge.
why you say that? the difference on POS claiming sover from IAC to bob got only bigger from 3 weeks ago to today. The POS lost where less than what we deployed just after initial BOB "spam"
If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough |

Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.10.04 17:38:00 -
[273]
Originally by: bulabuba Well, if you clear away all the flames and the smoke that goes with them, what you see going on here is good stuff. The alliance is mounting a hard, sustained attack, the coalition is putting up a hard, determined defense and (at least for right now) being slowly but surely pushed back. Classic test of will. Props to everyone involved.
Whether IAC/Red/AAA and others are able to hold, or whether their line breaks and IAC gets removed from the field, there is no doubt that the implications for morale and strategic position on both sides are huge.
What are you smoking? BoB lost another station today in Feyth. FAT is just 1 system in 1 warzone. Whatever happens doesn't affect morale much for anyone I think. If it did, BoB would have crumbled after 66- or other systems in Omist they lost after fighting hard to keep it. ------------------------------------------------
New idea for sovereignty: Sovereignty revisited |

Kagura Nikon
Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.04 17:40:00 -
[274]
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Originally by: bulabuba Well, if you clear away all the flames and the smoke that goes with them, what you see going on here is good stuff. The alliance is mounting a hard, sustained attack, the coalition is putting up a hard, determined defense and (at least for right now) being slowly but surely pushed back. Classic test of will. Props to everyone involved.
Whether IAC/Red/AAA and others are able to hold, or whether their line breaks and IAC gets removed from the field, there is no doubt that the implications for morale and strategic position on both sides are huge.
What are you smoking? BoB lost another station today in Feyth. FAT is just 1 system in 1 warzone. Whatever happens doesn't affect morale much for anyone I think. If it did, BoB would have crumbled after 66- or other systems in Omist they lost after fighting hard to keep it.
Witch station? Real curiosity. I might want to go check the garage offers that the former residents placed on market.
If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough |

Pilk
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.10.04 18:01:00 -
[275]
Originally by: Mynas Atoch stuff
You have first-hand knowledge of the timeline. As such, I defer to your post.
Originally by: Del369 Do i look bovvered Mynas ? I am chilled m8, yesterday wasn't fun for us though, our side didn't load the fight grids, at least most of us didnt, I sat at that 3-1 pos for 5 mins, then thought i had better gtfo there as nothing was loading, i clicked warp, 15 whole minutes later, with the same handful o friendly ships on screen as when i'd warped in i finally warped out, still with nothing else loaded, and from ts (for iac at least) it was the same story. how the hell you guys were repping carriers, deploying fighters and actually killing stuff i'll never know tbh (and i refuse to put the handy hat of tin foil on here)  so no more days like yesterday please 
We were getting updates of module-activation lag on TS from someone sitting there with a stopwatch. It was seven minutes, then ten, then dropped to four, then back to ten....
The reason you got that dreadnought as far into structure as you did was that our carriers took ten minutes to lock it, and another ten minutes to get their remote reps to activate on it, and his shield booster didn't activate until he was into armor, IIRC. In other words, the lag was hitting us, too. We just sat there and kept jamming our buttons.
Fights like this, BTW, are the reason everyone should use lasers. 
--P
Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. |

NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.10.04 18:03:00 -
[276]
Originally by: LifeLines ok so every system has its own node, yes? i wonder would it be possible to add additional nodes that work like this...
X system has 300 players in it, terrible lag. The server detects high player count in that system and "attaches" more CPU power from "emergency" nodes? :S im no IT pro, just sharing my thoughts..
Beating a dead horse.
-CCP did not design the game to be able to reallocate resources on the fly. They can only be reallocated by shutting down the affected nodes or the entire cluster.
-Under normal operations, low-traffic systems share a node with high-traffic systems to allow more solar systems to occupy one node. In the case of Jita, or a "reinforced node" system, the entire node is dedicated to that single system. This is the optimal scenario within the boundaries and limitations written into game, and it is still less than adequate.
-Throwing hardware at this problem won't fix it, unless something comes along that far outshines the current hardware is running. Unless the game is rewritten to allow a single system to span multiple nodes, you won't see any breakthroughs in performance.
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Del369
Caldari Office linebackers Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.04 18:26:00 -
[277]
Originally by: Pilk
Originally by: Mynas Atoch stuff
You have first-hand knowledge of the timeline. As such, I defer to your post.
Originally by: Del369 Do i look bovvered Mynas ? I am chilled m8, yesterday wasn't fun for us though, our side didn't load the fight grids, at least most of us didnt, I sat at that 3-1 pos for 5 mins, then thought i had better gtfo there as nothing was loading, i clicked warp, 15 whole minutes later, with the same handful o friendly ships on screen as when i'd warped in i finally warped out, still with nothing else loaded, and from ts (for iac at least) it was the same story. how the hell you guys were repping carriers, deploying fighters and actually killing stuff i'll never know tbh (and i refuse to put the handy hat of tin foil on here)  so no more days like yesterday please 
We were getting updates of module-activation lag on TS from someone sitting there with a stopwatch. It was seven minutes, then ten, then dropped to four, then back to ten....
The reason you got that dreadnought as far into structure as you did was that our carriers took ten minutes to lock it, and another ten minutes to get their remote reps to activate on it, and his shield booster didn't activate until he was into armor, IIRC. In other words, the lag was hitting us, too. We just sat there and kept jamming our buttons.
Fights like this, BTW, are the reason everyone should use lasers. 
--P
you did all that without smacking, didn't hurt to bad did it ? well done, keep that up and i might actually converse with you in future 
Originally by: Saladin Edit: I never post disclaimers in any of my more contrversial posts because I think anyone who thinks I am speaking for anyone other than myself is a muppet anyways.
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bulabuba
Gallente Klima Galactic
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Posted - 2007.10.04 19:12:00 -
[278]
Originally by: Malachon Draco
What are you smoking? BoB lost another station today in Feyth. FAT is just 1 system in 1 warzone. Whatever happens doesn't affect morale much for anyone I think. If it did, BoB would have crumbled after 66- or other systems in Omist they lost after fighting hard to keep it.
Well, lets see:
I'm smoking the stuff that tells me IAC folding would be much bigger strategically and psychologically in this conflict than the epic conquest of the mighty Red Moon Federation that Goon has been crowing about so comically. No offense to RMF, I'm sure they're fine players, but I'm also sure that they'd be the first to admit that they aren't first order players in this game that IAC are.
I'm smoking the stuff that tells me that if IAC loses their space despite the determined combined defense of the Russians, AAA, TCF, and IAC combined, it shows that the alliance can gain ground wherever they focus no matter what the coalition throws at them. If the alliance fails, it will show that they cannot gain ground against the main Coalition fleet, the impact of which, again, would be huge.
I'm smoking the stuff that tells me that the coalition obviously sees FAT as the strategic battle based on how they are deployed. Otherwise they'd leave IAF to defend their own space and send their whole fleet to tear up Feyth.
All this wannabe propaganda by the Goons trying to get some attention just isn't working. As leet as I'm sure they think they are, the aliance just isn't biting. It's pretty obvious where the important action is going on.
Someone does need to get a memo down to the Feyth residents that they need to hang together, instead of being hung separately. This stuff about Rise moving to ISS space is just stupidity. ISS, RISE, EXE, and everyone else who lives down there and I presume wants to keep living down there needs to unify under one command and take it to the Goons as one force and put the their ass in a sling, or at least slow them up so that they have less to crow about while the important work is happening further north. BoB isn't coming to help you, but by the same token, Red and AAA are too busy to help Goon too, and they aren't much without them. Cowboy up and take it to them together, instead of letting them displace you one at a time.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.04 19:29:00 -
[279]
majority of IAC in this thread really need to stay off the forums 
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Hexman
The Ankou The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2007.10.04 20:36:00 -
[280]
windows and MS sql server are bad, mkay?
AmigaOS and uhm...dbase are good. Even if they dont work together meh
(I'm bored, anyone notice this?)

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Hellaciouss
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.04 20:41:00 -
[281]
Originally by: bulabuba Someone does need to get a memo down to the Feyth residents that they need to hang together, instead of being hung separately. This stuff about Rise moving to ISS space is just stupidity. ISS, RISE, EXE, and everyone else who lives down there and I presume wants to keep living down there needs to unify under one command and take it to the Goons as one force and put the their ass in a sling, or at least slow them up and keep them pinned down in Feyth so that they have less to crow about and aren't able to help their allies while the important work is happening further north. BoB isn't coming to help you, but by the same token, Red and AAA are too busy to help Goon too, and they aren't much without them. Cowboy up and take it to them together, instead of letting them displace you one at a time.
You see, ISS and RISE can't help down south as they've been ordered by BoB to help take FAT. The Alliance is throwing absolutely every possible body they can into FAT, and their not taking it anywhere near as fast as they had hoped and planned.
Anyway, I think I'll take a break from posting, as I don't want to get whipped by the ebil slave driver Tyrrax.
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William Hernandez
Mushin Market
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Posted - 2007.10.04 22:52:00 -
[282]
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk majority of IAC in this thread really need to stay off the forums 
QFT
Bottom line is that for the last few days no IAC or there frinds dare undock or enter system or be podded.
Last to do so, AAA lost 2 cap ships and killed none
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Sionn Klorgh
Minmatar The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.10.05 00:05:00 -
[283]
Edited by: Sionn Klorgh on 05/10/2007 00:05:15
Quote: QFT
Bottom line is that for the last few days no IAC or there frinds dare undock or enter system or be podded.
Last to do so, AAA lost 2 cap ships and killed none
EDIT: IAC has sovergnty in the system
Right. The reality of the situation is that while FAT still stands and its pos stand more or less intact after the latest MC/BOB/friend push, your entire front around you collapses from a lack of defense elsewhere.
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Scavok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.05 00:22:00 -
[284]
Originally by: bulabuba
Someone does need to get a memo down to the Feyth residents that they need to hang together, instead of being hung separately. This stuff about Rise moving to ISS space is just stupidity. ISS, RISE, EXE, and everyone else who lives down there and I presume wants to keep living down there needs to unify under one command and take it to the Goons as one force and put the their ass in a sling, or at least slow them up and keep them pinned down in Feyth so that they have less to crow about and aren't able to help their allies while the important work is happening further north. BoB isn't coming to help you, but by the same token, Red and AAA are too busy to help Goon too, and they aren't much without them. Cowboy up and take it to them together, instead of letting them displace you one at a time.
Quotin' this. Feyth is a lonely, lonely place, and Goons suck without their russian overlords. There's not much logic involved in fighting a fight for an alliance that's not going to help you at all while you lose your home.
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Philippe Alumeres
PPN United Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.10.05 01:18:00 -
[285]
Originally by: Damir36
Well Pilk, I think I remember shooting you once... but the Guys you mentioned above, in difference to you they never owned a complete Region  
Oh ****, for this comment I will get yelled at by my CEO, but I read Pilk once to often now.
Well, shouting at you would not change the fact that Pilk is talking trash. Things did not change much since the Impass campaign. He was clueless then as much as he is now. 
Anyway, please, no PPN United posting in this thread, thanks.
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Pilk
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.10.05 02:32:00 -
[286]
Edited by: Pilk on 05/10/2007 02:36:39
Originally by: Philippe Alumeres
Originally by: Damir36
Well Pilk, I think I remember shooting you once... but the Guys you mentioned above, in difference to you they never owned a complete Region  
Oh ****, for this comment I will get yelled at by my CEO, but I read Pilk once to often now.
Well, shouting at you would not change the fact that Pilk is talking trash. Things did not change much since the Impass campaign. He was clueless then as much as he is now. 
Anyway, please, no PPN United posting in this thread, thanks.
Dude, you have less than NEGATIVE three hundred points on your own alliance's killboard.
At least show up on the field of battle--longer than it takes to get doomsdayed, anyway, which is your only appearance on an allied keyboard in the last ten months--before you smack me.
Alternately, include something concrete in your smack: Pilk smells funny, or Pilk is a jackass to everyone on TS when acting as FC, or SOMETHING. "Pilk is clueless" doesn't say much; about what am I clueless, exactly?
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Linavin
Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.05 02:34:00 -
[287]
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk majority of IAC in this thread really need to stay off the forums 
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk need to stay off the forums
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk off the forums
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.10.05 03:04:00 -
[288]
Originally by: Linavin
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk majority of IAC in this thread really need to stay off the forums 
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk need to stay off the forums
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk off the forums
What is this "off the forums" you speak of? Wait, there is a game outside the forums? WHY WAS I NOT TOLD THIS???
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Pnuka
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.05 03:09:00 -
[289]
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Linavin
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk majority of IAC in this thread really need to stay off the forums 
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk need to stay off the forums
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk off the forums
What is this "off the forums" you speak of? Wait, there is a game outside the forums? WHY WAS I NOT TOLD THIS???
Hey, aren't you like the Warren Buffet of Eve?
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tartrus
Templars of Space Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.05 03:47:00 -
[290]
do we hav a kills/losses yet r is this still going ? pls tell me bob failed :D
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Miko Tanagi
Amarr The Collective
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Posted - 2007.10.07 12:18:00 -
[291]
Wow, new tactic for BoB in FAT. As hostiles are jumping in, they are convo spamming them. Way to go RKK, your members are a class act. Bellon, especially you...
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Cvuos
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.07 12:23:00 -
[292]
Originally by: Miko Tanagi As hostiles are jumping in, they are convo spamming them.
Petition this, seriously!
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Ezoran DuBlaidd
Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.10.07 12:30:00 -
[293]
Originally by: Cvuos
Originally by: Miko Tanagi As hostiles are jumping in, they are convo spamming them.
Petition this, seriously!
that is hilarious. screens or it's not happened
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Hellaciouss
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.07 14:29:00 -
[294]
I just got home and I can't log into FAT \o/. I love paying for something I can't play \o/
Anyone have the numbers in FAT?
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Proxay
Gallente Fallen Angel's Blade.
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Posted - 2007.10.07 14:34:00 -
[295]
Edited by: Proxay on 07/10/2007 14:36:46
Originally by: Hellaciouss I just got home and I can't log into FAT \o/. I love paying for something I can't play \o/
Anyone have the numbers in FAT?
765 in local...
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As you can see, it's boring PewPew today.
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Arshes Nei
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.10.07 14:35:00 -
[296]
Originally by: Hellaciouss I just got home and I can't log into FAT \o/. I love paying for something I can't play \o/
Anyone have the numbers in FAT?
Last count before i crashed was far above 600. Obviously once you crash you cant log back in soo ... yeah im ****ed.
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Capt Rapace
Alpha Production Technologies Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.07 14:37:00 -
[297]
Crashed as the 'cap fleet' warped into the POS. (Only saw 5 interceptors for about 10 minutes). Can't log back in.
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Maksiim
Doom and Gloom
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Posted - 2007.10.07 14:42:00 -
[298]
Its like 'Never get out of the boat' but different in that its NEVER LOG OFF IF LAGGED OUT, Some people don't get it.
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Arshes Nei
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.10.07 14:43:00 -
[299]
Originally by: Maksiim Its like 'Never get out of the boat' but different in that its NEVER LOG OFF IF LAGGED OUT, Some people don't get it.
And some people dont get that crashing usually does not imply consent or having any choice about it.
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coeathal vega
Gallente Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.10.07 14:44:00 -
[300]
local topped out at 777.... oh joy
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Kaaii
Caldari Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.10.07 14:44:00 -
[301]
local 19 from 800....
According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
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Capt Rapace
Alpha Production Technologies Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.07 14:49:00 -
[302]
Originally by: Maksiim Its like 'Never get out of the boat' but different in that its NEVER LOG OFF IF LAGGED OUT, Some people don't get it.
Definately was a crash. Slightly different from a log off.
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Nez Sewers
Black Toilet.
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Posted - 2007.10.07 14:51:00 -
[303]
Originally by: Cvuos
Originally by: Miko Tanagi As hostiles are jumping in, they are convo spamming them.
Petition this, seriously!
FOFOFOFOFOFO...
Petition yourself first.  --------- Darker(and more stinking) side of ...
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Cringeley
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.07 15:01:00 -
[304]
Originally by: Nez Sewers FOFOFOFOFOFO...
Petition yourself first. 
Convo openings and gang invites frequently cause lag, whereas new text appearing in an existing chat window never does.
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Kaaii
Caldari Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.10.07 15:12:00 -
[305]
Edited by: Kaaii on 07/10/2007 15:14:52 Edited by: Kaaii on 07/10/2007 15:13:46
800.......
Guess they really want to save IAC anyway...
dieing the death of a rag doll
One down, one to go...
According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
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Algorithm 5
Caldari Hakata Group Blade.
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Posted - 2007.10.07 15:36:00 -
[306]
At 600 in local we got a neat "See guys that system max they say is 600 doesn't exist" in TS from Shrike :)
One tower dropped, no contest, lag out to 15m module/warp time.
As we SLOWLY warp out of the first POS, local peaked for me at 801 in local and seemed to hit a hard limit there at pretty much 800 in local.
As I type this, there's a (slow, laggy) battle on the CNC gate in between the GBC non-BS support fleet and various RSF and friends.
Between people being podded and people crashing and unable to log back in, local had fallen to 730 (and still falling at a few people a minute) by the time I crashed, and I'm now unable to log back in.
I don't think I locked or hit anything yet :)
Next time I swear to god I'm just gunna bring a covert ops, and I'll leave the pew pew to people in England closer to the servers than Australia.
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tEvEy
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.07 15:39:00 -
[307]
This is a big joke, this is ruining the game
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True Sebiestor
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.10.07 15:40:00 -
[308]
well...
After warping to regroup point and load grid i'd 2 auto, emergency warps and after that i found myself at our POS. Then i got desync and then i was droped from game.
Thank you CCP for great game.
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Soros
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.10.07 15:43:00 -
[309]
CCP are busy making new ships cant you understand
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Buzee
Flight Of Fantasy
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Posted - 2007.10.07 15:44:00 -
[310]
I hope you are all aware that with this all for blob tactcis, the RSF will start pulling the stops to blob out systems that they intend to take. BOB set the precedent back in 2004, now they will get it big style.
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True Sebiestor
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.10.07 15:45:00 -
[311]
Originally by: Soros CCP are busy making new ships cant you understand
Oh...yeah, sorry I forgot :) Ofc its more important 
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tEvEy
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.07 15:47:00 -
[312]
Originally by: Soros CCP are busy making new ships cant you understand
I would be happy if i was able to use my old ship or any ship at all.
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Zion Lior
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Posted - 2007.10.07 15:49:00 -
[313]
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Algorithm 5
Caldari Hakata Group Blade.
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Posted - 2007.10.07 15:49:00 -
[314]
Since this is a thread for the LAST major battle, I've started a new thread for the Oct 8th fight.
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Zion Lior
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Posted - 2007.10.07 15:53:00 -
[315]
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Alty MacAlterson
Alt Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.07 16:08:00 -
[316]
Originally by: Pnuka
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Linavin
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk majority of IAC in this thread really need to stay off the forums 
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk need to stay off the forums
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk off the forums
What is this "off the forums" you speak of? Wait, there is a game outside the forums? WHY WAS I NOT TOLD THIS???
Hey, aren't you like the Warren Buffet of Eve?
If he is he should buy me out for 5 billion ISK.
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Gabriel Karade
Nulli-Secundus
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Posted - 2007.10.07 16:17:00 -
[317]
Originally by: True Sebiestor
Originally by: Soros CCP are busy making new ships cant you understand
Oh...yeah, sorry I forgot :) Ofc its more important 
Yes it is, because like it or not, you 800 are a tiny minority of the player base, and everyone knows whatÆs going to happen when you cram that many into one system, and all attempt to ælemmingÆ onto one grid at a timeà 
Sit back, relax, and enjoy the bang 
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Abn Matar
Minmatar Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.07 16:30:00 -
[318]
Originally by: Gabriel Karade
Sit back, relax, and enjoy the bang 
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DeWieKat
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.10.07 16:34:00 -
[319]
Originally by: Gabriel Karade
Originally by: True Sebiestor
Originally by: Soros CCP are busy making new ships cant you understand
Oh...yeah, sorry I forgot :) Ofc its more important 
Yes it is, because like it or not, you 800 are a tiny minority of the player base, and everyone knows whatÆs going to happen when you cram that many into one system, and all attempt to ælemmingÆ onto one grid at a timeà 
Sit back, relax, and enjoy the bang 
and who tf might you be, anyway?
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Tunajuice
Convergent Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.10.07 16:47:00 -
[320]
Edited by: Tunajuice on 07/10/2007 16:47:40 My overview is showing 2 goon shuttles and a goon IBIS.
But I am glad goonswarm doesn't just bring useless ships to a fight to increase lag or anything.
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Laissezfaire
Minmatar Raddick Explorations Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.10.07 16:54:00 -
[321]
Edited by: Laissezfaire on 07/10/2007 16:53:50
Originally by: Tunajuice Edited by: Tunajuice on 07/10/2007 16:47:40 My overview is showing 2 goon shuttles and a goon IBIS.
But I am glad goonswarm doesn't just bring useless ships to a fight to increase lag or anything.
I am sure they were command ships.
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Nymysys
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.07 17:01:00 -
[322]
Originally by: Tunajuice Edited by: Tunajuice on 07/10/2007 16:47:40 My overview is showing 2 goon shuttles and a goon IBIS.
But I am glad goonswarm doesn't just bring useless ships to a fight to increase lag or anything.
We bring useless ships.
BoB brings FIX.
Guess we are even.
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Jasese
Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.07 17:03:00 -
[323]
Originally by: Nymysys
Originally by: Tunajuice Edited by: Tunajuice on 07/10/2007 16:47:40 My overview is showing 2 goon shuttles and a goon IBIS.
But I am glad goonswarm doesn't just bring useless ships to a fight to increase lag or anything.
We bring useless ships.
BoB brings FIX.
Guess we are even.
Well said brosef
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Daveydweeb
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.07 17:08:00 -
[324]
Originally by: Tunajuice Edited by: Tunajuice on 07/10/2007 16:47:40 My overview is showing 2 goon shuttles and a goon IBIS.
But I am glad goonswarm doesn't just bring useless ships to a fight to increase lag or anything.
Those three lagged out the other eight hundred, you heard it here first.
By the way, your post was ridiculed in the other thread, why did you think it wouldn't be here?
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Mistae
Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2007.10.07 17:20:00 -
[325]
As of 17:00 Eve time. TodayÆs kill ratio is 30 BOB losses to 100 Goon,RA,IAC. Yesterdays was something like 60 Bob losses to 230 Goon, RA,IAC. The ration of BS kills seams to be the same as overall kills. This is according to the BOB killboard thus it does not take into count value of ship, whether the opponents kill board is different, does not take into count strategic advantage does not take into count either sides ability to replace losses. (even if the actual numbers are off the ratio of kills could still be approximetly the same.)
If someone has better stats, or an accurate analysis of the killboard numbers please enlighten us. _______________
My personal (not to well informed speculation/guess) is that in this show of strength a 3 to 1 kill ratio is meaningful. I also do not of any reason why they can not repeat this in other contested systems and indicates that Goon, RA recent advances in Feyth are the result of BOB not committing all their resources. If this is the case then those advances could be stopped or reversed at a time of BOB's choosing. The above is simply speculation from an interested observer, I would appreciate your reasoned fact based argument for or against.
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Ivor Gunn
No One Expects The Spanish Inquisition
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Posted - 2007.10.07 17:23:00 -
[326]
why is there a rise member talking about k:d ratios? is he just ******* stupid, or a goon spy on a smear campaign?
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Cvuos
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.07 17:27:00 -
[327]
Originally by: Mistae
The above is simply speculation from an interested observer, I would appreciate your reasoned fact based argument for or against.
I too would speculate the same if I had my Eve-life in a doomed station, but I'm afraid killboard stats have no effect on RIT sov.
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Daveydweeb
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.07 17:28:00 -
[328]
Originally by: Ivor Gunn why is there a rise member talking about k:d ratios? is he just ******* stupid, or a goon spy on a smear campaign?
Quick, someone make a joke about RISE anticipating the station-walking feature.
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Sherpondeldey
Minmatar Solar Dragons Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.07 18:14:00 -
[329]
Originally by: Phear meh here's an idea.. dont put almost 700 people and ships in a single system. \ ccp doesnt have to and shouldnt do a dam thing to help you. its your fault ya jump into it. everyone knows jita lags..
imo just allow 100 people tops in a system.. this old crap of blob warfare is just sickning. lrn2play
not everyone even knows that there is Jita solar system. If one is supposed to know about lag and performance problems with 600 players in local it should be put down in an official document from ccp. Like EULA
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