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Ivan Bigun	Posted - 2007.11.02 12:24:00 - [1] Bonuses are now: Amarr Battleship Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to capacitor capacity and 2% bonus to the velocity factor of stasis webifiers per level Marauder Skill Bonus: 7.5% bonus to repair amount of armor repair systems and 5% bonus to large energy turret damage per level Role Bonus: 100% bonus to large energy weapon damage, 100% bonus to range and velocity of tractor beams Good news they made a much needed change to the ship, but I'm not sure this was the right one :/
NoNah Unseen University	Posted - 2007.11.02 12:26:00 - [2] 10 turrets(with the 50% cap use built in), 37.5% more tank, 25% more cap, and a 99% web, I do believe this is a ship I'll fly. Postcount: 600454 [02:40:22] <elmickers> if you're caldari in a fleet fight, bring a corp
Shadowsword COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.11.02 12:27:00 - [3] THIS I will buy. :) Now, CCP, if you could boost the Golem, too... ------------------------------------------ What is Oomph? It the sound Amarr players makes when they get kicked in the ribs.
Dr Fighter	Posted - 2007.11.02 12:29:00 - [4] nice, ccp's ears do work!
Ishina Fel Caldari Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.11.02 12:31:00 - [5] Originally by: Shadowsword THIS I will buy. :) Now, CCP, if you could boost the Golem, too... I like the Golem as it is, actually. Buff room for large link addresses in sigs plz :(
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.02 12:36:00 - [6] the loladin is dead! long live the paladin! --- planetary interaction idea!
iiOs Blood Corsair's Blood Blind	Posted - 2007.11.02 12:38:00 - [7] it still got ugly apoc hull, no?
Xanos Blackpaw Amarr The Firestorm Elite	Posted - 2007.11.02 12:42:00 - [8] Originally by: iiOs it still got ugly apoc hull, no? DIE HERETIC!!! the apoc look good!!!!!1! Playing minmatar is "like going down a flight of stairs in a office chair firing an Uzi".
Acoco Osiris Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.11.02 12:47:00 - [9] Is this a whole new bonus or did they switch one? But IMO, a needed change. ------------------------------ One more soldier off to war... And one Velator in my hangars.
Kagura Nikon Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.11.02 12:49:00 - [10] Goood, now.. DO SOEMTHIGN ABOUT THE APOC!!!! Give him enough Fitting capability to do something usefull!!! If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Aya Otosaki	Posted - 2007.11.02 13:02:00 - [11] if this is true, thanks ccp :):):) ----- Ignorance is my strength.
Xandria Pearl KIA Corp	Posted - 2007.11.02 13:04:00 - [12] Nice... at least the nightmare prices will drop cause I realy want one due to its' looks Do we get bubble+hearthstone modules for the pala?
Viktor VonCarstein Amarr Phoenix Industries Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.02 13:05:00 - [13] Now this looks promising. I will be looking forward to testing this out. Spray and Pray With hate all things are possible
Kerdrak 3B Legio IX Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.02 13:09:00 - [14] AWESOME ________________________________________
Valator Uel Caldari Pax Minor Asylum Total Comfort	Posted - 2007.11.02 13:36:00 - [15] Much better! All they need to do is change the stasis web bonus to a range per level and this will be PERFECT yet still not overpowered (like the Kronos :P ) -----------------------------------------------------
iiOs Blood Corsair's Blood Blind	Posted - 2007.11.02 13:38:00 - [16] Originally by: Valator Uel Much better! All they need to do is change the stasis web bonus to a range per level and this will be PERFECT yet still not overpowered (like the Kronos :P ) YEA, SHOOTING at 80km with pulse wont be overpowered
Kerdrak 3B Legio IX Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.02 13:41:00 - [17] New Paladin is fine, seriously. No need of range bonuses :) ________________________________________
Valator Uel Caldari Pax Minor Asylum Total Comfort	Posted - 2007.11.02 13:45:00 - [18] Originally by: iiOs Originally by: Valator Uel Much better! All they need to do is change the stasis web bonus to a range per level and this will be PERFECT yet still not overpowered (like the Kronos :P ) YEA, SHOOTING at 80km with pulse wont be overpowered Stasis web range, not pulse ;) -----------------------------------------------------
iiOs Blood Corsair's Blood Blind	Posted - 2007.11.02 13:47:00 - [19] Originally by: Valator Uel Originally by: iiOs Originally by: Valator Uel Much better! All they need to do is change the stasis web bonus to a range per level and this will be PERFECT yet still not overpowered (like the Kronos :P ) YEA, SHOOTING at 80km with pulse wont be overpowered Stasis web range, not pulse ;) ARG!
Talsha Talamar Amarr Nebula Rasa Holdings Nebula Rasa	Posted - 2007.11.02 13:48:00 - [20] Edited by: Talsha Talamar on 02/11/2007 13:48:41 Edited by: Talsha Talamar on 02/11/2007 13:47:46 Originally by: iiOs it still got ugly apoc hull, no? BURN The Apoc has one of the most sexy hulls in game. Thank you CCP, finally a ship whose gentle form, can haunt my darkest dreams of light to come, in far far away SP heavens
Yukisa	Posted - 2007.11.02 13:50:00 - [21] Edited by: Yukisa on 02/11/2007 13:51:00 Good change. I agree with the web change to range rather than effect. Pulses aren't point blank like blasters. Plus the paladin is very heavy and slow, it will not be able to dictate range at all to keep ships in below 10km for webs to be effective. That and it will differentiate it from the kronos a bit. Same bonuses = boring. As for hulls.. Abaddon is the best looking ship in the game. Thorax and Mega are very close behind.
Leandro Salazar The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.11.02 13:50:00 - [22] Edited by: Leandro Salazar on 02/11/2007 13:53:48 Bah wtf... This is sooo dumb. They remove the only useful bonus it had and keep the three crappy ones? That way it still don't have anything that makes it worth it over the Abaddon. The tank and cap bonuses are superfluous, I can tank and gank fine in an Abaddon already, and the web bonus is downright silly. While the tracking bonus, especially in light of the TC nerf on Sisi, was its only redeeming factor. It needs both tracking and damage, and it does not need either cap or web or rep. Oh well, guess that means I will be stuck with getting one of those new Nightmares to complement my Kronos. There is no 'n' in turret There is no 'r' in faction There is no 'a' in Scorpion There is no 'e' in Caldari There is no makeup in rogue drones
Neon Razor Caldari MAFIA	Posted - 2007.11.02 13:54:00 - [23] this ship is now sexy
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2007.11.02 14:00:00 - [24] Edited by: Imperator Jora''h on 02/11/2007 14:06:15 Originally by: Acoco Osiris Is this a whole new bonus or did they switch one? But IMO, a needed change. They changed the tracking bonus to a damage bonus. This is certainly an improvement but still not sure it is enough to save the ship from obscurity. That web bonus is just the suck and the cap bonus is meh...especially since it seems out of the box it has no cap advantage over any other Marauder. Seriously...anyone to get close enough to actually be caught by the web probably wants to be there anyway (read blaster boats) and they will kick the Paladin's ass at those ranges. Anything the Paladin would want to get close and catch with the web will almost certainly have zero problems staying away from the Paladin. Pulse are the least damaging close range weapon which is fine because they are the longest range/lowest tracking. The web bonus flies right in the face of that. Also, the rep amount bonus should really be a resist bonus. Gallente traditionally have gotten the rep amount thing, Amarr being the "tank" race (supposedly) get the resist bonus. Seems to have worked ok so far with other ships. Don't see why the Paladin should be different. EDIT: Change the web amount bonus to a web range bonus OR toss the web bonus and give it back the tracking bonus and you might have a ship worth flying.
Keijo Hobbit Enterprises GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.02 14:08:00 - [25] Originally by: Leandro Salazar The tank and cap bonuses are superfluous, I can tank and gank fine in an Abaddon already... O RLY? Can you tank, say, a level 5 mission or a 10/10 complex in it without logistics support? I'm not saying you will be able to do so in the Paladin, mind you, but it seems like it might be the idea behind these ships.
Dammar Amarr Ephorate	Posted - 2007.11.02 14:08:00 - [26]
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2007.11.02 14:12:00 - [27] Originally by: Keijo Originally by: Leandro Salazar The tank and cap bonuses are superfluous, I can tank and gank fine in an Abaddon already... O RLY? Can you tank, say, a level 5 mission or a 10/10 complex in it without logistics support? I'm not saying you will be able to do so in the Paladin, mind you, but it seems like it might be the idea behind these ships. I do not know for sure but I doubt the Marauders will be especially better at tanking L5 or 10/10's than current battleships. Ok...some better but I doubt enough to really make a go of it without logistics support. Looking at the Marauders I think I would still prefer to tank my Damnation to the eyeballs for the main tank in those missions. Just guessing though. Hard to say without trying it (which at least I haven't).
Shevar Minmatar A.W.M Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.11.02 14:14:00 - [28] Edited by: Shevar on 02/11/2007 14:15:30 Originally by: Acoco Osiris Is this a whole new bonus or did they switch one? But IMO, a needed change. Old situation; * 5% bonus to capacitor capacity per Amarr BS level * 2% bonus to stasis webifier velocity factor per Amarr BS level * 7.5% bonus to armor repair amount per Marauder level * 7.5% bonus to large energy turret tracking per Marauder level I'll take 5% damage over tracking any day of the week. --- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
Jack Jombardo Amarr	Posted - 2007.11.02 14:18:00 - [29] Originally by: iiOs it still got ugly apoc hull, no? ye :( I wish it would be the Abaddon Hull
Cleron	Posted - 2007.11.02 14:33:00 - [30] Another damage clone, that's all we need. Why would i buy this ship when i can grab a Geddon stick a few rigs in it for less then a T2 BS and go kick some ass or hop in an Abaddon ? Cap bonus dose not address the weapon cap issue. 10% weapon cap reduction is required even hear. The Web bonus we have talked about before, it must be range or bust, better off with tracking other wise. Hell i'd still like a 10% armor bonus over the damage (or web). Over all it won't be a bad mission runner... good luck finding one used in PVP though.

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