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LuzArius	Posted - 2007.11.06 04:29:00 - [1] Man its been 3 months and I"m still a complete noob this sucks. I want to fly a battleship efficiently but I still lack the skills. I have trained my learning skills and even have +3 implants but still training takes soo long. I wish I could grind skills to finish in a few days instead of waiting a month.
syphurous Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2007.11.06 04:33:00 - [2] WARNING YOU ARE NOW IN A TROLL POST ___ Drones hold a special place in my hull, its called a drone bay.
Rogue 2 Amarr	Posted - 2007.11.06 04:33:00 - [3] Edited by: Rogue 2 on 06/11/2007 04:41:18 "WARNING YOU ARE NOW IN A TROLL POST" True, but I agree somewhat. I think the skill training is juuuuust a bit too long. I think that's one reason EVE subscription is "low" (not that 30+k on a single server is "low"). Personally, I'd like to see training take about 75-80% of the time it currently takes. I'm sure people will flame me, but I think a little faster training would get more ppeople in the game. OTOH, this is basically a PvP game, so maybe there's a method to the madness. :)
Dianeces Minmatar Repo Industries	Posted - 2007.11.06 04:34:00 - [4] Give me your battleship, I'll fly it effectively for you. Problem solved, right? Quote: Cristobalus DeMora > so what do the forums say? Jaleean Atheria > smack smack smack flame smack flame smack smack flame alt post flame flame flame smack flame click
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2007.11.06 04:39:00 - [5] Awww c'mon, someone give the farmer his Raven! These forums are FUBAR, upgrade this decade!
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.06 04:41:00 - [6] Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 06/11/2007 04:43:29 Hehe, I been playing for over a year and I don't have large turrets trained yet... 3 months? Awwww, you poor baby Ok ok ok, I use cruise/torps on a Nuet + remote repping Typhoon with T2 drones and 34K armor tank. Yarrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!! Originally by: Liz Kali Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking I owned someone on forums!!!
Rogue 2 Amarr	Posted - 2007.11.06 04:42:00 - [7] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Hehe, I been playing for over a year and I don't have large turrets trained yet... 3 months? Awwww, you poor baby OK, I officially retract my previous post. :D
Ed Anger Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.11.06 04:42:00 - [8] i got battelships in 2 weeks, no problem can kill manny things all ded. fatser enough hoho!
Jaikar Isillia Blue Labs Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.11.06 04:44:00 - [9] For 0.0 ratting, you can power to a BS really quick.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.06 04:44:00 - [10] Originally by: Rogue 2 Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Hehe, I been playing for over a year and I don't have large turrets trained yet... 3 months? Awwww, you poor baby OK, I officially retract my previous post. :D Damn right! I'm the forum *** most starved for attention here Originally by:** Liz Kali Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking I owned someone on forums!!!
Sharon Mercedes	Posted - 2007.11.06 04:53:00 - [11] Originally by: LuzArius Man its been 3 months and I"m still a complete noob this sucks. I want to fly a battleship efficiently but I still lack the skills. I have trained my learning skills and even have +3 implants but still training takes soo long. I wish I could grind skills to finish in a few days instead of waiting a month. That's right murky baller! I must agree with you on skill training, i relly sucks. The consept is good, but i would take 30 yo 40% from the training times away. I want to fly a carrier before the year ends, not after 20 years of playing (20 years because carrier is last thing i train).
Rogue 2 Amarr	Posted - 2007.11.06 04:58:00 - [12] Originally by: Sharon Mercedes That's right murky baller! I must agree with you on skill training, i relly sucks. The consept is good, but i would take 30 yo 40% from the training times away. I want to fly a carrier before the year ends, not after 20 years of playing (20 years because carrier is last thing i train). I agre. No gym for home, work out floor with 30, but is it for 20 like 30 lb when you no lift it to be for men, for 30 lbs instead? or half is 10 for 20 pounds?
Reem Fairchild Minmatar Republic University	Posted - 2007.11.06 04:59:00 - [13] Edited by: Reem Fairchild on 06/11/2007 04:59:49 Here's an idea: Don't fly battleships. I've been playing for almost a year, and I still frequently fly Rifters (and have fun doing it).
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.06 05:04:00 - [14] Originally by: Reem Fairchild Edited by: Reem Fairchild on 06/11/2007 04:59:49 Here's an idea: Don't fly battleships. I've been playing for almost a year, and I still frequently fly Rifters (and have fun doing it). o/\o <--- high five Originally by: Liz Kali Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking I owned someone on forums!!!
VJ Maverick Caldari Maverick Specialized Services	Posted - 2007.11.06 05:06:00 - [15] Originally by: LuzArius Man its been 3 months and I"m still a complete noob this sucks. I want to fly a battleship efficiently but I still lack the skills. I have trained my learning skills and even have +3 implants but still training takes soo long. I wish I could grind skills to finish in a few days instead of waiting a month. Can I have your stuff? Originally by: Bodhisattvas by the way you keep on missing the "a" from pwn, do you need any help with its pl
Scav Silver Amarr Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.06 05:09:00 - [16] One of the negatives and positives of this game.. If ya not so active, ya are the same level as the freaks.. On the other hand, ya can never catch someone few years into the game.. á ----------------------------------------------------------- "Scav est procul Porta!!" -=Pimary=- "Tonight you dine in....BKG?" -=Ashemi Darkhold=-
Kryttos Caldari Combat and Mining Utility Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.06 05:21:00 - [17] this isnt WoW. if you want instant gratification, go there.
Horchan Gallente	Posted - 2007.11.06 05:24:00 - [18] Originally by: Scav Silver One of the negatives and positives of this game.. If ya not so active, ya are the same level as the freaks.. On the other hand, ya can never catch someone few years into the game.. Bzzt. Sorry, but your answer is incorrect. Thanks for playing though. You can catch up. Specialize. There is only so much SP you can gain to improve a specific task. What the older players have over newer players is versatility. --- Originally by: VJ Maverick Jita is closed on Sundays. It's a holy day.
John Grimm The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.11.06 05:29:00 - [19] Originally by: Horchan Originally by: Scav Silver One of the negatives and positives of this game.. If ya not so active, ya are the same level as the freaks.. On the other hand, ya can never catch someone few years into the game.. Bzzt. Sorry, but your answer is incorrect. Thanks for playing though. You can catch up. Specialize. There is only so much SP you can gain to improve a specific task. What the older players have over newer players is versatility. This one speaks the truth. Originally by: Rawne Karrde PVP in EvE is consentual, you agree to it when you login. If you don't like it you're in the wrong game.
Rogue 2 Amarr	Posted - 2007.11.06 05:33:00 - [20] Edited by: Rogue 2 on 06/11/2007 05:32:54 Originally by: Kryttos if you want instant gratification, go there. lol. This comment makes me laugh. They're both games.
Belce Caldari ADAMA Corps Division of Eden	Posted - 2007.11.06 05:40:00 - [21] Also you won't be long in this game when you can actually play a very meaningful role in small gang to fleet ops. The frigate tackle, no tackle no kill, is a great and very challenging role that new pilots can learn the skills for and take even longer to master. Truth is Truth
Ilvan	Posted - 2007.11.06 05:46:00 - [22] Originally by: Rogue 2 Edited by: Rogue 2 on 06/11/2007 05:32:54 Originally by: Kryttos if you want instant gratification, go there. lol. This comment makes me laugh. They're both games. Yes, but EVE is a game that doesn't provide instant gratification.
Reem Fairchild Minmatar Republic University	Posted - 2007.11.06 06:03:00 - [23] Originally by: Rogue 2 Edited by: Rogue 2 on 06/11/2007 05:32:54 Originally by: Kryttos if you want instant gratification, go there. lol. This comment makes me laugh. They're both games. However, they're very different game. There is a mentality some players in Eve have that I think comes from playing games like WoW, games where you level up and get better all the time. They play Eve, and they want to constantly go for the next big thing, the next "level" so to speak. They don't think there's any point in flying frigates (even tech 2 frigates) unless you're a newbie. Thanks to the change that happened right around when I first started playing, new characters now start with 800k sp instead of 30k something. Within a couple of days you can be flying cruisers. Within a couple of weeks you can be flying battleships. So now (with this mentality mentioned above), why would you ever be flying anything less than battleships except for those first few weeks, right? Well, except you can't fit them well, you can't fly them well, you don't know what you're doing and you can't afford replacing them when you lose them... Ooopss... Dissappointment. The thing about Eve though is that almost all ships are important and useful. Especially when it comes to tech 2 ships. Which would you say is better between a covert ops ship, an Interdictor and a Command ship? You can't compare like that. They are all useful ships in a fleet, even though there's a price and an sp difference. There is no "leveling" in that sense. You can spend your entire "Eve life" only flying small ships, and do very well at it. Now, if someone just really wants to specialize in battleships, that's another story. Yes, it is going to take more time, but a lot of the skills you need for battleships are also useful for smaller ships and you can be flying them in the meantime. As an added bonus, you get to learn to play the game without losing loads of ISK all the time.
Phoenix Lord The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.11.06 06:04:00 - [24] Keep in mind flying something effectively also involves your own damn experience, not just your SP. I was in a battleship at 3 months. Got into fleet battles about a month later, didnt even lose that BS for another 3-4 months when i got ganked ratting. Quit *****ing and go learn :P Be satisfied with what you have as well.. the higher end stuff might seem fun, but they can also be a pain in the ass (namely getting the money for them, and losing them). _____
Dred'Pirate Jesus Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2007.11.06 06:10:00 - [25] Originally by: LuzArius I wish I could grind skills to finish in a few days instead of waiting a month. Then go play any MMO except for Eve.. Originally by: David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
Arii Smith Caldari StarHunt Fallout Project	Posted - 2007.11.06 06:12:00 - [26] Tarminic or an idiot? YOU DECIDE!
Yerik Locke Caldari The New Order. United Connection's	Posted - 2007.11.06 06:21:00 - [27] What sets Eve apart is its slower, more tactical approach to improving yourself. This is a game where you must wait for things you want. When you finally get it, it feels all the better.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.06 06:39:00 - [28] Originally by: Arii Smith Tarminic or an idiot? YOU DECIDE! I don't believe Tarminic would sink quite this low. Originally by: Liz Kali Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking I owned someone on forums!!!
Claude Leon Gallente Ixion Defence Systems The Cyrene Initiative	Posted - 2007.11.06 06:39:00 - [29] Originally by: Horchan Originally by: Scav Silver One of the negatives and positives of this game.. If ya not so active, ya are the same level as the freaks.. On the other hand, ya can never catch someone few years into the game.. Bzzt. Sorry, but your answer is incorrect. Thanks for playing though. You can catch up. Specialize. There is only so much SP you can gain to improve a specific task. What the older players have over newer players is versatility. I wanna have your childrenz. Fantastic post.
cal nereus Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.11.06 06:41:00 - [30] I have over 10 million skill points and I'm no where near satisfied. But I'm a whole lot better off than I was just a few months ago, and I can clearly tell the difference. That's all you need really. --- Join BH-DL Skills

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