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Krashion Angry Dragon Research and Production 16	Posted - 2013.09.19 19:09:00 - [301] - Quote Bo Katan wrote: Who normally pays for the toon transfer? I see some auctions saying "I will pay the transfer fee" - so is it normally expected that the buyer pays? Rules state the seller must always pay for the transfer and cannot directly add on xtra for plex/transfer fees i.e charge a buyer 2x plex or an xtra bill for transfer
DScore De Quasar Astronautics Inc. 0	Posted - 2013.09.28 03:20:00 - [302] - Quote Re: Hi -P-é-+-Ç-¦-¦-+-é-¦-+-î: Mackenzie Ayres -ö-¦-é-¦ -+-é-+-Ç-¦-¦-¦-+: 2013.09.28 01:44 -Ü-+-+-â: DScore De, Or we follow the rules and you transfer money and I complete transfer.-á "The ISK that a buyer sends when attempting to purchase a character is considered to belong to him until such a time as the character being purchased has been delivered to the account of his choosing. If the character sale is not completed, the ISK must be returned in full to the potential buyer." Rule # 18, you must transfer first. If you dont transfer with 24 hours I will void your bid and report you to CCP as a potential scammer.-á https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=6369&find=unread Thanks Mac. Hi From: DScore De Sent: 2013.09.28 01:23 To: Mackenzie Ayres Hi ... I understand we will do everything by the book ... my account this character Kyb78russ mail [email protected] .... you started transfer as current, a letter arrives from SSR I translate money .. Hi all, tell me please it's divorce or I must first translate ISK?
The Infested Terran State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.10.07 19:04:00 - [303] - Quote By accident i forgot to swap the isk from the character i sold to this isk holding toon, how can i get my isk back? i proof of my isk
kat arina Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.10.16 18:22:00 - [304] - Quote If a seller allows a payment delay to his buyer , mentioning it in a private sale topic, is he still supported by CCP ?
Wylt Echerie Conqueror Worm Limited 0	Posted - 2013.10.18 10:51:00 - [305] - Quote Can you please update the bazaar rules to state that your thread will be locked if you ever post in your own thread twice in the same day. ever. no matter the circumstances. forget common sense. ignore reason. twice and it's locked. Oh wait, also please add: Except when it's not and it's alright to post 4 or 5 times a day and we're cool with that. Also 100% fine to use alt accounts to ask questions, make comments, fake bids to bump your posts. I really would like to ensure that I stay within the guidelines but it's quite hard to do when they're not clearly stated. Thanks!
Mishi Med Perkone Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.10.27 10:27:00 - [306] - Quote Is there any ingame channel for character trading?
Setsuka Kurosawa Invado Conglomerate 1	Posted - 2013.11.04 21:29:00 - [307] - Quote Is there a way to know or find out if a character that was for sale and last bumped a few days prior to an offer placed is no longer for sale or no longer on a subbed account? I really want to buy a character that I fell in love with but she is never online when I try to convo her, doesn't respond to my mails or replies to her WTS thread, and is not training for anything... Please respond or offer some sort of help, this is driving me nuts. I really would love to have this character: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=288222&find=unread as my own. Thanks.
Nooni Woomba Perkone Caldari State 1	Posted - 2013.11.10 14:20:00 - [308] - Quote [quote=CCP Spitfire]In an effort to reduce the amount of character scams, GM workload and player frustration, the following changes are being made to the announcements concerning character sales or auctions for ISK. No other form of trade is sanctioned or supported. The ISK that a buyer sends when attempting to purchase a character is considered to belong to him until such a time as the character being purchased has been delivered to the account of his choosing. If the character sale is not completed, the ISK must be returned in full to the potential buyer. So here is the deal I would like an official answer on with an explanation: 1. Seller opens an Auction 2. A Buy-Out offer was posted (Buyer 1) on the thread 3. Seller accepts buyout offer on the thread - to make it clear: A buyout offer was posted for all to see, and the seller accepted that buyout offer for all to see, as they were posted in the thread. 4. Buyer 1 sends the ISK to seller and posts this information in the thread 5. Seller post receiving 6. NINE HOURS GO BY 7. Buyer 2 sends an evemail to the character in being sold and inquires about: "Hey I saw you accepted a buyout offer on the board for X-Amount. I want to outbit that guy" 8. 1 hour goes by and BUYER2 now posts a larger amount of the previously accepted buyout offer. CCP - please define OWNERSHIP (When does the ownership start) CCP - please define when the SALE of the character is completed. CCP - please explain why buyer 1 should send buyer2 his money back (based on what rule?) The character sale was completed by definition the minute the chain of process was completed. Buyout offer posted -> Buyout Offer accepted -> Agreed-upon amount was sent and received -> Transfer started. Now all of this bull was POSTED in the sales thread. How can anyone after NINE hours even expect to get the character????
Amanda Hard Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.11.13 08:20:00 - [309] - Quote CCP - how about some representation here guys? I mean, its your made up rules that obviously still leave a lot of questions and siding with one party while the other party understands to be also right is the result. So no matter what you do until you bring clarification, one side will get screwed.

CCP Eterne C C P C C P Alliance 2934	Posted - 2013.11.13 12:10:00 - [310] - Quote Unfortunately no discussion of action taken in a support ticket or about other players accounts can be discussed in this thread. If you have any questions/concerns about a specific auction, please send in a support ticket under the Billing -> Character Transfers category. EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept @CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents


Nooni Woomba Perkone Caldari State 1	Posted - 2013.11.13 17:57:00 - [311] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: Unfortunately no discussion of action taken in a support ticket or about other players accounts can be discussed in this thread. If you have any questions/concerns about a specific auction, please send in a support ticket under the Billing -> Character Transfers category. Why did you even bother to reply, seriously. You evaded every single question and prompt for clarification there was - most importantly the one about the rules governing the process of selling / auctioning characters off. Are you kidding me? Also, you directing me to the petition - I have been waiting a very long time to get a straight answer and there, just like you presented here today, I get the same kind of hot-air responses and I say "responses" because whatever you guys fumble out of your keyboards cannot be classified as "answers". Why is it not possible to get straight answers to straight questions?
Tiffany Kautsuo Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 9	Posted - 2013.11.14 13:41:00 - [312] - Quote Nooni Woomba wrote: CCP Eterne wrote: Unfortunately no discussion of action taken in a support ticket or about other players accounts can be discussed in this thread. If you have any questions/concerns about a specific auction, please send in a support ticket under the Billing -> Character Transfers category. Why did you even bother to reply, seriously. You evaded every single question and prompt for clarification there was - most importantly the one about the rules governing the process of selling / auctioning characters off. Are you kidding me? Also, you directing me to the petition - I have been waiting a very long time to get a straight answer and there, just like you presented here today, I get the same kind of hot-air responses and I say "responses" because whatever you guys fumble out of your keyboards cannot be classified as "answers". Why is it not possible to get straight answers to straight questions? Forget the action on the account - cant be hard to figure out that I am looking for answers to the steps PRECEDING account actions by CCP. If you dont understand those, I can perhaps repeat / reword? Any way I can help, please let me know aye? Thats how they are. They have 28 rules governing the character bazaar. What they dont tell you is that that other "rules" apply - unwritten rules. Quote: Senior GM XXXX posted We simply do not allow any mistakes or errors made through the character bazaar to benefit another player. Much like we will not allow a buyer to keep the ISK is the seller forgets to transfer it from the character before it is transferred, we will not allow a seller to be paid multiple times for the same character. So even if you are within the 28 rules and some person comes online 9, 12, 24 hours or like 2 years later and sends the ISK higher than the last or even already accepted buyout offer, according to Senior GM XXXX, you cannot keep the ISK if he (the player) convinces the GM somehow, that he was under the impression he would still be able to get the character. It happened to me, anyone saying anything different doesnt know what he is talking about. So no matter what the rules state, apparantly CCP modifies those on the fly to fit their needs and they will action your account, remove the ISK, put you in the red without even having to give you an explanation. The funny thing is, you can create petitions all you want. They dodge specific answers to specific questions. Questions like "Which rule did I break" are answered with - as an example - Rule #19. If you show proof that the auction / sale ended and that you therefor think Rule 19 is void and that you acted right in spending the ISK, they come up with something like "We simply do not allow any mistakes or errors made through the character bazaar to benefit another player". Thats a catch-all folks, meaning, no matter what rules 1-28 say, it doesnt matter. No Mistakes, ever and it has previously not been made public, so here you have it. If an idiot still sends you ISK (and there aparently isnt a stop-time) even though the auction ended, you cannot keep the ISK. Bullshit or not, thats how they operate right now. Anyone not believing this, evemail me and I will share my petition log.
Tiffany Kautsuo Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 9	Posted - 2013.11.14 13:43:00 - [313] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: Unfortunately no discussion of action taken in a support ticket or about other players accounts can be discussed in this thread. If you have any questions/concerns about a specific auction, please send in a support ticket under the Billing -> Character Transfers category. You failed to notice that it wasnt about discussing the actions taken in a support ticket, but about discussing and defining your own rules.
Nooni Woomba Perkone Caldari State 1	Posted - 2013.11.14 14:05:00 - [314] - Quote .
Kaden Saken Bernard Matthews Corp - Poultry Division 0	Posted - 2013.11.24 21:20:00 - [315] - Quote a friend of my son said he has a character hes not using on one of his account and if i give him enough isk for the transfer he will transfer character is this with in the rules? Regards Kaden
Jorgus Liet Faulty Logic Gate 5	Posted - 2013.11.28 06:45:00 - [316] - Quote I bought this toon from a guy who had multiple threads and never bothered to list them as sold. I logged on to my account today and someone sent me isk and a b/o offer. Is it my responsibility to send the isk back to the guy who sent the isk and offer after this toon was transferred to my account or is it the responsibility of the guy I bought this toon from because he ran multiple ads and never bothered updating them? (CCP will be able to verify this account was sold) Thanks Jorgu
DarkStarr Nova Caldari Provisions Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.12.04 16:12:00 - [317] - Quote I have two accounts , want to transfer to one account. One is a reactivated account for 30 days the other is a new account for 90 days. If I transfer the 90 day account to my older reactivated will that make the older account good for 90 days or would I lose the the 90 days? Not going to transfer till I know for sure .Can not find the answer to this question , Please help
Testicles Perkone Caldari State 1	Posted - 2013.12.06 12:34:00 - [318] - Quote DarkStarr Nova wrote: I have two accounts , want to transfer to one account. One is a reactivated account for 30 days the other is a new account for 90 days. If I transfer the 90 day account to my older reactivated will that make the older account good for 90 days or would I lose the the 90 days? Not going to transfer till I know for sure .Can not find the answer to this question , Please help account time is ONLY relevant to the account that its applied too and is non transferable. chars themselves have no game time
Lyvv Hamburger Jungs Fidelas Constans 0	Posted - 2013.12.07 13:15:00 - [319] - Quote Jorgus Liet wrote: I bought this toon from a guy who had multiple threads and never bothered to list them as sold. I logged on to my account today and someone sent me isk and a b/o offer. Is it my responsibility to send the isk back to the guy who sent the isk and offer after this toon was transferred to my account or is it the responsibility of the guy I bought this toon from because he ran multiple ads and never bothered updating them? (CCP will be able to verify this account was sold) Update: I went ahead and sent the money back .. seemed like the right thing to do. LoL Thanks Jorgu You are sooo good. What do you need? i-net love? pathetic almost
William Kusoni Perkone Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.12.18 20:15:00 - [320] - Quote does me adding notes to my open support ticket put it at the end of the 'cue'.. Also I've heard tickets take 4days or so, this true? (char sale/scam)

Angelina Mortale State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.01.28 18:51:00 - [321] - Quote https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4163975#post4163975 I didn`t payed attention to the topics description or the topic description was edited not sure, thinking that its a 85 m sp char(its actually 4m sp) , and made 15 b offer, sent isk and in like 5 mins realized my mistake... i would like to cancel that character transfer and return my isk, i am ready to compensate 1.3b for plex paid for transfer to the character owner Transfer was started approx 15 mins ago I`ve opened support ticket , but decided to also post here because this situation is pretty interesting in my opinion and this might be good lesson for some other people out there :) sadly i had to learn my lesson like that. Also have to mention that i posted in thread that i cancel offer before transfer started, dunno if it matters
Silvie Bloom Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2014.02.15 10:00:00 - [322] - Quote mistake
killerK3ller Get Off Me Dawgg 0	Posted - 2014.02.17 20:05:00 - [323] - Quote Hi im wanting to sell this toon. But i subed it up for a year. can this be included in the price?
Dixon Cutter Savvys Corp 1	Posted - 2014.03.06 02:08:00 - [324] - Quote So someone took my 2B ISK and walked away without transferring the character to my account. I followed all the forum rules buying it. I put in a CCP Support ticket and it's been sitting in the Open status for 24 hrs already. Is the jerk just going to get away with the theft? Is Support just busy or is this an inactive queue of some sort, since normally I hear back from CCP very quickly for any support case I have filed before. Weird. Miss my 2B :(
Reggae Loving Jamaican Welcome to Estonia 1	Posted - 2014.03.21 15:51:00 - [325] - Quote My roommate wants to trancfer hes character hes not playing anymore to my account. Can he just do this through the payd character trnacfer protcess or does every trancfer has to involve somekinda isk sale process ?
Jason Atavuli SA-Brotherhood Brothers Of The Dark Sun 2	Posted - 2014.03.23 00:13:00 - [326] - Quote Reggae Loving Jamaican wrote: My roommate wants to trancfer hes character hes not playing anymore to my account. Can he just do this through the payd character trnacfer protcess or does every trancfer has to involve somekinda isk sale process ? https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Character_Transfer Yes, it would at the very minimum only involve the paid character transfer process: Your roommate needs to have 2 plex in the redeeming system of his account in which the character is residing, in order to pay CCP for facilitating the transfer (removing the existing character name at transfer would be a nice way to prevent mis representation related to in rule #9). There is no official / formalised market within the game for selling or buying a toon. This is why the character bazaar exists, so that you can document the sale every step of the way, in case of some sort of irregularity when publicly selling a toon. In private almost anything goes really . . . If your roommate were to assign a price to the toon he's transferring to you, it is up to yourself and your roommate to arrange payment. Once payment has been arranged, it is upto your roommate to effect / finalise the transfer. You then wait 10 hours and the toon is supposed to appear in your account. Assuming your roommate isn't going to skank you . . . Or at least that's how I understand it, I've never bought or sold a toon before, have just been reading up on it for about an hour now, as I need to start a new account and move a multi-character-training alt from an existing account to it's own account. Pretoria EVE meet 7 December 2013, Centurion Rugby Club.Bring & Braai, Cash Bar on site.-á-áMany thanks to-áthe Organisers, "Warpcore Stabilisers"-áDit gaan 'n lekker jol wees manne :D-á
Simon Cow Caldari Provisions Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.03.27 14:45:00 - [327] - Quote I would like to know which section to file a petition in to either dispute or validate a 1 day ban for replying to posters on my thread. I am not sure this was deserved and would like either reversal or understanding of the situation. I had simply replied to 2 posters on my thread after having made my daily bump. I would not have had I any clue that this was going to be a violation of Character Bazaar policy.
Th'ieam Or Aliastra Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.05.12 18:37:00 - [328] - Quote Same issue as the above poster. Would just like to understand why my post was locked for 24 hrs. I replied to 2 posts made after my "bump of the day" and even refered one reply to private message to get it away from the forum post. Then bumped the next day as usual and the tread got 24 hrs lock. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4582341#post4582341&_ga=1.11785650.765596388.1383226546
Damillia Seraph Black Core Federation Black Core Alliance 2	Posted - 2014.05.19 15:02:00 - [329] - Quote If I've already made the payment to buy a character (4.5billion) and the guy up and disappears, do I get my money back?
Victor Eliam Free the Carebears 117	Posted - 2014.05.19 16:19:00 - [330] - Quote Damillia Seraph wrote: If I've already made the payment to buy a character (4.5billion) and the guy up and disappears, do I get my money back? Yes, you need to file a petition to Customer Support regarding this issue. CCP is acting quite fast on this matter as no scam is allowed on the bazaar. Here is the email of CCP support : [email protected] o7



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