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Lynn Liguria
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.27 16:57:00 -
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ISD Stensson wrote:Lynn Liguria wrote:Question: I am trying to sell this character, can i have the buyer send the ISK to a separate account??? Also, i don't get the Catch 22, if this character is supposed to get the ISK, how can I sell it and get the ISK (out of this characters wallet) before the 10 hr wait period??? Thanks. ReRead the Rules, NVM, and thank you Look. The character being sold have recieved ISKs. You are moving this ISKs next to another character and initializing character transfer. When 10-hours period is started you can not do anything with this character. But, as per rules, whenever a character is transferred before the seller has moved the ISK received from the sale to another one of their characters, the Customer Support team will return that ISK to the rightful owner. The buyer cannot expect to receive both the character and the ISK that they paid to purchase it. Was my answer useful? If no, feel free to ask additional questions. Sorry for long answering.
Yes, and thanks ISD Stennson |
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ISD Stensson
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
76
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Posted - 2012.08.27 17:42:00 -
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Emadman wrote:WANT TO BUY AMMENDMENT TO RULES ! Ok Whilst we all the know the reasons for the rules, WHY MUST the character already be in an NPC corp, some of us will try and sell our characters whilst also not burning our current bridges Take myself I listed a WTS whilst still in my current corp, and on the post it IS VERY clear that i would not accept any isk until i am in an NPC corp, also bearing in mind the mechanics of the character x-fer system where it WILL NOT let you transfer a chracter unless already in an npc corp Whilst i would like to sell my toon, its not black and white in that i MUST sell my toon, the fact is if there are no takers on my WTS thread, then i would happily carry on doing what im doing, howver by leaving the corp i have burnt my bridges. I dont see the need to have him/her already in an npc corp at time of listing, but FULLY agree with the mechanics of not being able to transfer unless in an npc. Can this rule not be changed to make it easier for some of us who would like to see if selling our toons is a viable option maybe something along lines of "no financial transaction to take place unless the toon is in an NPC corp" rather than CCP Spitfire wrote:
The character being sold must be in an NPC corporation at the time of posting.
Or if this rule cannot be ammended can we GET clarification why this rule is so important when the mechanics WILL NOT allow transfer whilst still in a corp??? Ameyn Mimian wrote:How long has #9 been a rule and why did it come about?
Having to drop my character to an NPC just to gauge interest for it makes no sense at all. What if I decide the offers aren't woth my time? Now I have to further muddle up the corp history, which effects sale value. as you can see im not the only one who wants further information... The only people that would seem to gain from this would be character traders who dont play the characters they own. rather than the regular eve players who might/might not want to upgrade their toon to a betteer one if they can sell their current toon Also just had a look and at a rough guess i see in region of 50 locked threads over last few days just because they are not in npc corporation, and most (in region of 45) state they will be in npc within 24hours, this is in terms of use of time a complete was of ISD time and could surely be spent in better areas of eve (how about jita local locking all the bots/macroers from spamming scam contracts and nope i dont mean the regualr scams but the guys who seem to be able to spam for roughly 22 hours a day every day(not instead of regular players trying to sell toons) The character transfering system will not let you transfer the character until you are in an NPC corporation. Yes. But you probably didn't think anything about the buyer. He expects to wait only 10 hours before recieving the character. He is expecting no additional 24 hours of waiting (while the seller drops his roles and is passing to the NPC corporation). When it happens he starts to be nervous, he writes petition on you about possible scam, he derails your thread with blaming and abusing. And so on. As a result, your inflexible will to save the bridges (for 1-2 additional days) throws additional work and additional nervous for you, for buyer, for moderators, and for Support Team.
The bargain with the seller who is in a player owned corporation in many cases throws additional time while the buyer must wait. Sellers may writes any remarks about dropped corporation roles in their threads, but this kind of deals in many cases throws additional time while the buyer must wait (because seller's corp roles was not dropped, in spite of their remarks).
In order to avoid this kind of situations: The character being sold must be in an NPC corporation at the time of posting. Every bargain must be complete after 10-hours delay (not after 10+24 hours of delaying).
(Please do not take this post as a message that is personalised to you. It is only my manner of speaking.) ISD Stensson Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Emadman
Ministry of Destruction SCUM.
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Posted - 2012.08.27 18:54:00 -
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ISD Stensson wrote:The character transfering system will not let you transfer the character until you are in an NPC corporation. Yes. But you probably didn't think anything about the buyer. He expects to wait only 10 hours before recieving the character. He is expecting no additional 24 hours of waiting (while the seller drops his roles and is passing to the NPC corporation). When it happens he starts to be nervous, he writes petition on you about possible scam, he derails your thread with blaming and abusing. And so on. As a result, your inflexible will to save the bridges (for 1-2 additional days) throws additional work and additional nervous for you, for buyer, for moderators, and for Support Team. The bargain with the seller who is in a player owned corporation in many cases throws additional time while the buyer must wait. Sellers may writes any remarks about dropped corporation roles in their threads, but this kind of deals in many cases throws additional time while the buyer must wait (because seller's corp roles was not dropped, in spite of their remarks). In order to avoid this kind of situations: The character being sold must be in an NPC corporation at the time of posting. Every bargain must be complete after 10-hours delay (not after 10+24 hours of delaying). (Please do not take this post as a message that is personalised to you. It is only my manner of speaking.)
THanks for the response :), but, whilst i do agree with the extra waiting, i still dont see why it is such a problem (ie having posts blocked/locked etc) if as long as the buyer is aware that the toon is still in a corp at time of bidding and thus will take the 24hours before he has left corp Obviously if like my situation and on my own post i put in that i wsa still in corp and the roles would be dropped at time of acceptable bid and even then i would not accept payment until im in NPC i dont understand how this is such a problem, and to be honest has only been a lockable offense over the recent history
I have bought and sold many many toons (and nope im not trader just like different/new toons every 6motnhs or so) and not once in the situation as with this guy has it been a problem for the buyer (or even myself as seller)
Can this rule not be modified to at least something like i suggested where no isk should be transferred until in npc corp, but listing can at least start whilst in a player corp |
Ameyn Mimian
The Suicide Kings Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.08.29 07:57:00 -
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ISD Stensson wrote:The character transfering system will not let you transfer the character until you are in an NPC corporation. Yes. But you probably didn't think anything about the buyer. He expects to wait only 10 hours before recieving the character. He is expecting no additional 24 hours of waiting (while the seller drops his roles and is passing to the NPC corporation). When it happens he starts to be nervous, he writes petition on you about possible scam, he derails your thread with blaming and abusing. And so on. As a result, your inflexible will to save the bridges (for 1-2 additional days) throws additional work and additional nervous for you, for buyer, for moderators, and for Support Team. The bargain with the seller who is in a player owned corporation in many cases throws additional time while the buyer must wait. Sellers may writes any remarks about dropped corporation roles in their threads, but this kind of deals in many cases throws additional time while the buyer must wait (because seller's corp roles was not dropped, in spite of their remarks). In order to avoid this kind of situations: The character being sold must be in an NPC corporation at the time of posting. Every bargain must be complete after 10-hours delay (not after 10+24 hours of delaying). (Please do not take this post as a message that is personalised to you. It is only my manner of speaking.)
This change is incredibly short sighted. It would be much simpler to require the poster to specify when the character can be transferred. At the most, require posters to have dropped roles so that they can leave corp instantly, whenever an agreement is reached. Anything but requiring somebody to leave their corporation until they are sure a sale can be made.
I'm sorry that GMs, mods, and other folks are inconvenienced by this, but don't push that inconvenience onto everybody. |
Yuzi Shoei
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.08.29 21:33:00 -
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Can i change the Name of the Toon? Can i resculp a Toon after i bought me one? Can i change gender? |
Emadman
Ministry of Destruction SCUM.
2
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Posted - 2012.08.29 21:56:00 -
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Yuzi Shoei wrote:Can i change the Name of the Toon? Can i resculp a Toon after i bought me one? Can i change gender?
No Yes (in most cases) No |
Aneut
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.09.01 00:26:00 -
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Your forum got hacked!
I bought a character last night and confirmed the private sale on a forum post I got the seller to create (I have screenshots) the URL is 404 now
Char purchased was: BadKitty Miau
On refreshing the page today (on which the buyer confirmed sale and then isk received for transfer to begin) the page is gone.
What use are all the CCP rules and regulations if people can just delete the forum post afterwards?
What section do I submit a petition in where fail char sale following CCP rules and forum and char selling is suspected hacker?
I also have evemails confirming purchase.
Regards, Aneut |
Aneut
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2012.09.01 03:20:00 -
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Aneut wrote:Your forum got hacked!I bought a character last night (AEST / since last DT) and confirmed the private sale on a forum post I got the seller to create (I have screenshots) the URL is 404 nowChar purchased was: BadKitty MiauOn refreshing the page today (on which the buyer confirmed sale and then isk received for transfer to begin) the page is gone. What use are all the CCP rules and regulations if people can just delete the forum post afterwards? What section do I submit a petition in where fail char sale following CCP rules and forum and char selling is suspected hacker? I also have evemails confirming purchase. Regards, Aneut
http://eve-search.com/thread/149530-1/page/1#5
Shows the sale thread indexed before it was allowed to be deleted from eveonline forums. |
Trit
Q-Tech Solutions
3
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Posted - 2012.09.04 02:50:00 -
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Why does a character have to be in an NPC corp to post the sale?
It is enough that the toon be in the NPC corp at time of transfer. What problem arose that required this change?
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Ana K
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.09.05 15:27:00 -
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Some questions:
I will be selling this character soon, but I don't want my main on this account disclosed. When I receive the ISK for this character's sale, I will need to transfer the ISK to my main, and then initiate character transfer. Will that ISK transfer to my main show up in the Journal of this character after this character is in the possession of its new owner? Will past ISK transfers to my main, and all other ISK activity, also show up in the Journal? Or will Journal and Wallet transactions be wiped at the time of transfer?
Also, how does one use two PLEX's to pay the transfer fee? Do I buy them in-game and do something to them in-game related to character transfer fee? A quick step by step list would be appreciated.
Thanks! |
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Emadman
The Soprano Family
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Posted - 2012.09.06 17:48:00 -
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Ana K wrote:Some questions:
I will be selling this character soon, but I don't want my main on this account disclosed. When I receive the ISK for this character's sale, I will need to transfer the ISK to my main, and then initiate character transfer. Will that ISK transfer to my main show up in the Journal of this character after this character is in the possession of its new owner? Will past ISK transfers to my main, and all other ISK activity, also show up in the Journal? Or will Journal and Wallet transactions be wiped at the time of transfer?
Also, how does one use two PLEX's to pay the transfer fee? Do I buy them in-game and do something to them in-game related to character transfer fee? A quick step by step list would be appreciated.
Thanks!
in simple yes all historical transactions appear in the wallet even after transfer, so what i would recommend just create a dead alt then transfer the isk to him then move it after, delete the dead alt, this will make the jounral entry pointless
in terms of hte plex, just have them in station and then right click "add to redeemable items" then when you log into the account management to transfe the toon you select payment by plex and it will pick up fact you have 2 plex in the redeem state and use them |
Picard Alduin
Red is Dead Mech Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.09.10 19:59:00 -
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Hi everyone. Can someone confirm that i can pay for a new Character with another account. For example, this one i have is 4 months old, yet i have just set up a new one today with no charachters loaded, it's just empty to move my new charachter in to (when i buy one) i assume this is all ok?!
I hope that makes sense :P |
Psion Zateki
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.09.11 14:49:00 -
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Picard Alduin wrote:Hi everyone. Can someone confirm that i can pay for a new Character with another account. For example, this one i have is 4 months old, yet i have just set up a new one today with no charachters loaded, it's just empty to move my new charachter in to (when i buy one) i assume this is all ok?!
I hope that makes sense :P
Yes i often set up a new account using the buddy program then when i buy a toon transfer to that accout. The only rule is that the account must be fully paid up, IE not on trial. |
Silver Widowmaker
AMLS Corporation COF Alliance
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Posted - 2012.09.11 21:02:00 -
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How do I bump? |
Cruore Regis
Terra Rosa Academy
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Posted - 2012.09.13 19:35:00 -
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Just make a post in your topic. If it's just for the sole purpose of bumping type like "Bump" or something. Just remember this can only be done once a day. |
Kerrigan Xavius
FIRST SHOCK SQUADRON MASQUERADE.
0
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Posted - 2012.09.14 13:47:00 -
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If the character change the rules during WTS? First was b/o price 23 bil. Now he changed the rules... And he changed the rules after one guy make b/o offer 24 bil. Is this normal? https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=153291&p=2 |
Dark Riser Skir
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.09.17 08:10:00 -
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How long does it take for a newly fully activated account to be able to receive a character? I created and subbed a new account yesterday at 10:00 eve time and doesn't let me use the character transfer service.. |
QuazTempCEO
Gank 'u' Hard
0
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Posted - 2012.09.17 23:27:00 -
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In the T&C nothing has been fully agreed until isk has been transferred, and even then should the parties be unhappy the isk can be returned and nothing has been broken, unlike somewhere like Ebay where once the buy out price is met the buyer has to fulfill his duty this isn't the case, quite often you will see a buy price far exceed the OPs original WTS price.
Dark Riser Skir wrote:How long does it take for a newly fully activated account to be able to receive a character? I created and subbed a new account yesterday at 10:00 eve time and doesn't let me use the character transfer service..
Usually it is only a matter of about 15minutes max, even then once the new account is subbed up full paying then its near immediate, I have (roughly) created 35 accounts and had bought many toons to be used on the new aaccounts, and never has it failed, so i must ask... Have you upgraded the account from a trial to full?? if so then i would suggest if still a problem to petition CCP and advise them of such. I am assuming your buying a toon, however i believe if a toon is being sold then its either 3 or 7 days until a toon can be sold from a new account.
Hope that answes both questions. |
QuazTempCEO
Gank 'u' Hard
0
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Posted - 2012.09.17 23:32:00 -
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Emadman wrote:WANT TO BUY AMMENDMENT TO RULES ! Ok Whilst we all the know the reasons for the rules, WHY MUST the character already be in an NPC corp, some of us will try and sell our characters whilst also not burning our current bridges Take myself I listed a WTS whilst still in my current corp, and on the post it IS VERY clear that i would not accept any isk until i am in an NPC corp, also bearing in mind the mechanics of the character x-fer system where it WILL NOT let you transfer a chracter unless already in an npc corp Whilst i would like to sell my toon, its not black and white in that i MUST sell my toon, the fact is if there are no takers on my WTS thread, then i would happily carry on doing what im doing, howver by leaving the corp i have burnt my bridges. I dont see the need to have him/her already in an npc corp at time of listing, but FULLY agree with the mechanics of not being able to transfer unless in an npc. Can this rule not be changed to make it easier for some of us who would like to see if selling our toons is a viable option maybe something along lines of "no financial transaction to take place unless the toon is in an NPC corp" rather than CCP Spitfire wrote:
The character being sold must be in an NPC corporation at the time of posting.
Or if this rule cannot be ammended can we GET clarification why this rule is so important when the mechanics WILL NOT allow transfer whilst still in a corp??? Ameyn Mimian wrote:How long has #9 been a rule and why did it come about?
Having to drop my character to an NPC just to gauge interest for it makes no sense at all. What if I decide the offers aren't woth my time? Now I have to further muddle up the corp history, which effects sale value. as you can see im not the only one who wants further information... The only people that would seem to gain from this would be character traders who dont play the characters they own. rather than the regular eve players who might/might not want to upgrade their toon to a betteer one if they can sell their current toon Also just had a look and at a rough guess i see in region of 50 locked threads over last few days just because they are not in npc corporation, and most (in region of 45) state they will be in npc within 24hours, this is in terms of use of time a complete was of ISD time and could surely be spent in better areas of eve (how about jita local locking all the bots/macroers from spamming scam contracts and nope i dont mean the regualr scams but the guys who seem to be able to spam for roughly 22 hours a day every day(not instead of regular players trying to sell toons)
Whilst i started this thread some time ago on a now sold toon, i would like to ask all non affiliated buyers to report any thread where the toon is in player corp being sold to be reported, whilst creating more work for the GM's we might actually force/get them to reconsider the ludicrious rule about being a NPC at time of listing,whilst i know this might be wrong way round, but if they are complaing about a few Petitions regarding some buyers waiting 24hours for roles to drop, creating a load of reported posts might show them that it is worthwhile changing the rule to jsut state how long until a player being sold will take until he/she is in a NPC corp to be transferred.
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Samantha Ming
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.09.20 08:08:00 -
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Hi I want to sell a toon someone gave me. ( no time to play I think, or bored ) What do I do?
First of all, I did a price check on the forums.
Then what?
I'm afraid of the transfer, afraid to be scammed Dont know why lol
is Eve mail the best way to trade character?
This toon is available in an account sepparatly of mine, Will I have to do the transfer? it will cost 2 plex right?
thank you for your answer.
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QuazTempCEO
Gank 'u' Hard
0
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Posted - 2012.09.20 10:25:00 -
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Samantha Ming wrote:Hi I want to sell a toon someone gave me. ( no time to play I think, or bored ) What do I do?
First of all, I did a price check on the forums.
Then what?
I'm afraid of the transfer, afraid to be scammed Dont know why lol
is Eve mail the best way to trade character?
This toon is available in an account sepparatly of mine, Will I have to do the transfer? it will cost 2 plex right?
thank you for your answer.
List the character on eveboard.com you will need the api for this. Then create a forum listing, ensuring that the toon is in NPC corp before doing this.... (see my post above yours) Think of a price, then sell ONLY VIA FORUM. once the guys sends you isk, transfer isk from your toon > alt, then transfer on the account management screen, ensuring eith you have enough on your credit card or the 2 plexes within the redeemable system on the character your going to transfer. As a seller you can't really get scammed because you dont move him until the isk is received.
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Kinet
Frog Steamers
12
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Posted - 2012.09.27 16:11:00 -
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Can I sell a char with SP's that are not allocated? The char has 2 mill SP's that were refunded from learning skills that I have not used? Or do I have to spend them? |
aramo
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.09.28 08:32:00 -
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Kinet wrote:Can I sell a char with SP's that are not allocated? The char has 2 mill SP's that were refunded from learning skills that I have not used? Or do I have to spend them?
Yes just list them in the advert, people will often look favoroubly on toons with un-accolated SP as they can use this themselves... :) |
Flux Raider
Secutor Corporation Per Flamma Exorior
0
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Posted - 2012.09.30 15:59:00 -
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Flux Raider wrote:I was wondering if I get to change the name/appearance/gender of the toon if I buy one or am I stuck with what someone else made it?
anyone know? |
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CCP Gargant
C C P C C P Alliance
85
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Posted - 2012.10.03 12:59:00 -
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The first rule has been updated to allow multiple characters to be sold within the same thread provided there is proof of ownership.
Carry on! CCP Gargant | Community Representative |
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jaros mantra
7A29
0
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Posted - 2012.10.05 12:31:00 -
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How do you carry on if you have agreed to buy a toon off someone privately,
Do you still have to go through posting in the Bazaar ?? |
Prisoner 14
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.10.05 23:10:00 -
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jaros mantra wrote:How do you carry on if you have agreed to buy a toon off someone privately,
Do you still have to go through posting in the Bazaar ??
Just put a thread up on the toon being sold saying "pvt sale to toon xyz". and then XYZ confirms and bingo done.
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bludgen
Trojan Legion Fidelas Constans
0
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Posted - 2012.10.07 15:28:00 -
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I have a question, when i am buying a new character, do i send the isk to the character im buying along withmy user name (i use to log on with) within a mail? if not where do i send the isk? |
Boo X
Enterprise Initiatives
3
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Posted - 2012.10.09 00:11:00 -
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Rule 8 states 'The character for sale must be from an active account, you cannot trade characters from inactive accounts.'
can the transfer be done with an hour games time left, or does the account have to be active for the 10 hour cooling off period, could some1 clarify please
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I Hate Jita
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.10.09 01:19:00 -
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I purchased a character today on the character bazaar forums but the seller has not started the transfer yet.
I sent the isk and account name 6hrs ago and the seller keeps stalling on when he will start the transfer.
When do i get worried and petition this as a character sale scam? |
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