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Shakalakahiki	Posted - 2007.11.15 23:55:00 - [1] How many females play ever? Are there any known statistics?
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance	Posted - 2007.11.15 23:56:00 - [2] EVE's female population is about 5%, so based on accounts that would be approximately 10,000 ladies. ---------------- Tarminic - 29 Million SP in ~~pink~~ Forum Warfare
Maltitol Gallente Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.15 23:57:00 - [3] Originally by: Tarminic EVE's female population is about 5%, so based on accounts that would be approximately 10,000 ladies. more fish in the sea my ass.. only 10,000? i'm calling DIBS! Originally by: CCP Wrangler Well boohoo.
2k7	Posted - 2007.11.15 23:57:00 - [4] 32-24-32, a cup. oh not those kinds of stats.
Kenneth McCoy Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2007.11.16 00:01:00 - [5] The few women that I know play eve are way better than I am. My opinions and views are not the official views of my Corp.
Shakalakahiki	Posted - 2007.11.16 00:01:00 - [6] What could we do to make it more appealing to the female audience? (nintendogs aside)
Krazy Bitsch	Posted - 2007.11.16 00:04:00 - [7] Originally by: Maltitol Originally by: Tarminic EVE's female population is about 5%, so based on accounts that would be approximately 10,000 ladies. more fish in the sea my ass.. only 10,000? i'm calling DIBS! im calling "YOU NEED A LIFE"....
Sleepkevert Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.11.16 00:04:00 - [8] Originally by: Shakalakahiki What could we do to make it more appealing to the female audience? (nintendogs aside) Ambulation, duh, thats the whole sole reason for that expantion! _______ Sign my sig
Kenneth McCoy Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2007.11.16 00:09:00 - [9] tbh, Ambulation is going to suck when you see some curvy gallente walk by, and realize you just checked out a dude. My opinions and views are not the official views of my Corp.
Ilvan	Posted - 2007.11.16 00:09:00 - [10] Originally by: Shakalakahiki What could we do to make it more appealing to the female audience? (nintendogs aside) There's always the Phobos.
Shakalakahiki	Posted - 2007.11.16 00:13:00 - [11] Originally by: Ilvan Originally by: Shakalakahiki What could we do to make it more appealing to the female audience? (nintendogs aside) There's always the Phobos. What's Phobos? LOL if ambulation is for women, call me a CHIKITA! I'm stoked for ambulation. It can open a hell of alot of possiblities. Wouldn't less combat orientated things be more appealing to women? Say designing ships, stations outfits and things? Although it may come off as sexist, women do tend to be less aggressive (durr lets go blow stuff up, boss) and more constructive (I wanna make it look pretty). Thoughts?
sableye principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.11.16 00:14:00 - [12] Originally by: Kenneth McCoy tbh, Ambulation is going to suck when you see some curvy gallente walk by, and realize you just checked out a dude. if ya get drunk you won't remember the next day Join The Fight With Promo Today
Kenneth McCoy Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2007.11.16 00:16:00 - [13] Originally by: sableye Originally by: Kenneth McCoy tbh, Ambulation is going to suck when you see some curvy gallente walk by, and realize you just checked out a dude. if ya get drunk you won't remember the next day Remind me not to go bar hopping with you My opinions and views are not the official views of my Corp.
Richard Phallus	Posted - 2007.11.16 00:19:00 - [14] They are all in hiding, for very justifiable reasons.
Maltitol Gallente Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.16 00:21:00 - [15] Originally by: Krazy Bitsch im calling "YOU NEED A LIFE".... I dont get it Originally by: CCP Wrangler Well boohoo.
Kryton Bitterstar	Posted - 2007.11.16 00:21:00 - [16] Originally by: Shakalakahiki Originally by: Ilvan Originally by: Shakalakahiki What could we do to make it more appealing to the female audience? (nintendogs aside) There's always the Phobos. What's Phobos? LOL if ambulation is for women, call me a CHIKITA! I'm stoked for ambulation. It can open a hell of alot of possiblities. Wouldn't less combat orientated things be more appealing to women? Say designing ships, stations outfits and things? Although it may come off as sexist, women do tend to be less aggressive (durr lets go blow stuff up, boss) and more constructive (I wanna make it look pretty). Thoughts? i have a thought. go meet some more women. they dont mind blowing things up in a game. some find it rather stress relieving. fear the woman at the helm of a megathron.
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance	Posted - 2007.11.16 00:21:00 - [17] Originally by: Richard Phallus They are all in hiding, for very justifiable reasons. Based on all past and future posts in this thread, very justifiable. ---------------- Tarminic - 29 Million SP in ~~pink~~ Forum Warfare
Kalahari Wayrest	Posted - 2007.11.16 00:29:00 - [18] Quote: Wouldn't less combat orientated things be more appealing to women? Say designing ships, stations outfits and things? Although it may come off as sexist, women do tend to be less aggressive (durr lets go blow stuff up, boss) and more constructive (I wanna make it look pretty). Thoughts? You're an idiot I can expand on this in detail if you wish, women are more constructive afterall __________________________ Indulge Me Consider Yourself Indulged - Immy ♥ Wow immy scored - Xorus
Kenneth McCoy Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2007.11.16 00:34:00 - [19] There's a female in my Corp who shall remain nameless, and she's the most ruthless, indiscriminate, and effective killer that VHI has. We have to like, beg her not to pod everyone we kill. My opinions and views are not the official views of my Corp.
Bryg Philomena Green Lantern Corps	Posted - 2007.11.16 00:37:00 - [20] I know quite a few females in eve. They are all good players. Many I would trust with my life. Hell, we all have clones :) Originally by: CCP Wrangler Am I reading this correctly? You claim you have a bug that undresses female avatars??? Your signature image exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie
Kazuma Saruwatari	Posted - 2007.11.16 00:45:00 - [21] Originally by: Kenneth McCoy The few women that I know play eve are way better than I am. quoting this because its true. Same for me, the female EVE players I do know of will wtfpwn me in every segment of EVE gameplay I try to get into. Yes, I feel like a wuss in their ranks, and treated like one for the first month or so. Cant say I didnt like it though - Odd Pod Out, a blog of EVE Online
Der Komissar	Posted - 2007.11.16 00:54:00 - [22] 2 Girls, 1 Eve. Anyone?
Kenneth McCoy Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2007.11.16 00:55:00 - [23] Originally by: Der Komissar 2 Girls, 1 Eve. Anyone? /me shivers My opinions and views are not the official views of my Corp.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.16 01:03:00 - [24] HAHA, I know one of them Originally by: Liz Kali Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking "Villains, I say to you now... knock off all that evil!" ~The Tick
Paulo Damarr	Posted - 2007.11.16 01:29:00 - [25] What are girls? Originally by: MOTOK0 A bit like the second coming of jesus only with screaming and tears and whine threads.
Minia Cor	Posted - 2007.11.16 01:38:00 - [26] Originally by: Tarminic EVE's female population is about 5%, so based on accounts that would be approximately 10,000 ladies. and .00001% of those are hot..
Brianna Tempest	Posted - 2007.11.16 02:12:00 - [27] You're all a bunch of wusses. Who is to say that a female can't be hot, play eve, and love shopping and flowers at the same time? I pod all my kills, btw.
Val Vympel	Posted - 2007.11.16 02:48:00 - [28] Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Richard Phallus They are all in hiding, for very justifiable reasons. Based on all past and future posts in this thread, very justifiable. I'm not in hiding I obviously play a female avatar in EVE,this however has been the exception not the rule for me in other MMO's I tend to play whatever interests me from a character creation standpoint. My "mood" of course determines allot as well. I don't make gender assumptions when I converse with other players,I find it rather irrelevant. It is the quality of the player that I care about Cheers
Ren Surkova Down In Flames	Posted - 2007.11.16 02:52:00 - [29] Originally by: Brianna Tempest You're all a bunch of wusses. Who is to say that a female can't be hot, play eve, and love shopping and flowers at the same time? I pod all my kills, btw. maybe, but if they were hot why would they advertise that they were female in eve? they can probably get all the attention they want from a far less creepy source than internet spaceship sausagefest land
Psorion The Nine Gates Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.16 02:57:00 - [30] Originally by: Kenneth McCoy There's a female in my Corp who shall remain nameless, and she's the most ruthless, indiscriminate, and effective killer that VHI has. We have to like, beg her not to pod everyone we kill. /Signed. Every woman I have flown with in this game are straight killers... [and sound great in TS]
Leora Nomen	Posted - 2007.11.16 03:02:00 - [31] Originally by: Ren Surkova Originally by: Brianna Tempest You're all a bunch of wusses. Who is to say that a female can't be hot, play eve, and love shopping and flowers at the same time? I pod all my kills, btw. maybe, but if they were hot why would they advertise that they were female in eve? they can probably get all the attention they want from a far less creepy source than internet spaceship sausagefest land For one thing it stops people from refering to you as 'he' all the time. Even if you play a female character they still do it. If you are a guy and play a male character and your friends in game would refer to you as 'she' all the time i'm sure you'd tell them that you're a 'he' in fact without trying to advertise anything. guide to game time codes
Dafuzz Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.11.16 03:13:00 - [32] Originally by: Brianna Tempest You're all a bunch of wusses. Who is to say that a female can't be hot, play eve, and love shopping and flowers at the same time? I pod all my kills, btw. I am hot, I play eve, love shopping and flowers too. I am a male tho. -Dfz PS: I pod too -- -If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets..
Shakalakahiki	Posted - 2007.11.16 03:20:00 - [33] Anyone have any suggestions on what would bring in more girls?
Val Vympel	Posted - 2007.11.16 03:47:00 - [34] Originally by: Leora Nomen For one thing it stops people from refering to you as 'he' all the time. Even if you play a female character they still do it. If you are a guy and play a male character and your friends in game would refer to you as 'she' all the time i'm sure you'd tell them that you're a 'he' in fact without trying to advertise anything. I gently correct any player that assumes that I am a gender other than what my portrait displays. It doesn't bother me when it happens. I am particularly fond of being called "dude" I usually ask that the player interject "ette" as a suffix next time. "Hey Bro" is another favorite. I prefer not to know the "true" gender of player.If I know and it is different from what their portrait displays I still tend to address them according to what I see in their portrait anyway. I would like to commend the male population of EVE. I have played for 6 months and have never been disrespected because of my gender or had to deal with anything vulgar or sexually innappropriate. Thanks "GUYS"
Nachshon Caldari Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.11.16 03:53:00 - [35] I know quite a few girls in EVE. Evanda Char, Elsebeth Rhiannon, Sonja Dragooran... we have quite a few women in EM. And one of them - Eva - is our leader. ____________________________________ Caldari by birth, Minmatar by citizenship. The True Meaning of Freedom
Leora Nomen	Posted - 2007.11.16 05:52:00 - [36] Originally by: Shakalakahiki Anyone have any suggestions on what would bring in more girls? introduce malls and shopping ... and make it a pvp activity too oh wait, i think you were looking for a serious answer :P check this out: http://www.nickyee.com/daedalus/archives/000432.php The Daedalus Project has some surveys posted on mmorpgs and some of these show what factors make men and women want to play, what exactly interests them in the game. Since so few girls play EVE I would suppose it just doesn't give them what they are looking for in an mmorpg. guide to game time codes
Mini Puce	Posted - 2007.11.16 06:23:00 - [37] Edited by: Mini Puce on 16/11/2007 06:23:00 ghayz are considered as female?
Bryg Philomena Green Lantern Corps	Posted - 2007.11.16 06:30:00 - [38] Originally by: Val Vympel I don't make gender assumptions when I converse with other players,I find it rather irrelevant. It is the quality of the player that I care about Cheers QFT. I am like this too. I know a lot of female players. And they are some of the most fun people. Except one, she was FC for CLS and did an amazing amount of POS sitting. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Am I reading this correctly? You claim you have a bug that undresses female avatars??? Your signature image exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie
ZerKar Caldari Zen'Tar	Posted - 2007.11.16 09:07:00 - [39] Originally by: Shakalakahiki What could we do to make it more appealing to the female audience? (nintendogs aside) Make a Pink Ship damnit! Well just kidding, though my friend would love that lol. Honestly, I think just more socail interaction other than beating eachother over the head with weapons tends to be a turn on for us of the fairer sex so this next big revolution to the gaming experience should help. I guess if I had to say the one major thing that draws some of us as it is, it is that you are rarely really hit on or given all those lovely loser one-liners thanks to being so many boy-girls LOL. Honestly, I find it very amusing seeing the boys playing girls and even more so if they are making an honest RP attempt to act like one (though Gods not in a stereotypical "girly" fashion I hope, unless it really BURNS someone you just killed, then it is funny.). +++++++++++++++ I saw the Sign...! O.o
Gold Rogers Solitude Empires United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.16 09:41:00 - [40] Originally by: Leora Nomen Originally by: Shakalakahiki Anyone have any suggestions on what would bring in more girls? introduce malls and shopping ... and make it a pvp activity too I can see it now "Your handbag back hand slap strike for a wrecking 600 damage" ZOMG NERF HANDBAGS!!!! ---------
Cursus Publicus Amarr	Posted - 2007.11.16 09:49:00 - [41] Spaceship MMO + girls really does not compute. The game would need more socialization that feels personal instead of just ships communicating to eachother. Some deeper character customization might help too. According to other MMOs I could say that roleplaying servers/posisbility to roleplay well attracts the female population to some extent too. Or at least it seems like there'd be more people on those servers who at least claim to be female.
N1fty Amarr Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2007.11.16 10:00:00 - [42] I know several different kinds of female Eve players. One is a total yarr pirate who will blow you up without question, I must say she scares me. Then theres this other one who has a corp of alt-miners, loves nothing better than chewing on veldspar all day and building ships. Wouldn't hurt a fly, although she does ask others to that for her. And then theres one kind of imbetween those two enjoys to pvp, enjoys a bit of ratting, and generally acts like your average pvp player. Although she does a mean Celestis with which you do NOT want to ****. So to sum up, I don't think you can lump women into a group and say what they are interested in. Mostly it seems they like to blow stuff up or chew on a roid like the rest of Eve. ============================================ Reload all with <AmmoType>
duffmantt Dragonian Freelancers KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.16 10:10:00 - [43] Some of the nicest players ive met in Eve are girls. Also, Dj Xyliana anyone? Any Devs who sign below are officially cool.
The Herrick Gallente Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.11.16 10:13:00 - [44] I feel sorry for all those that are gonna get hundreds of convo invites when they next log in now. Unless of course they enjoy the attention.
duffmantt Dragonian Freelancers KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.16 10:16:00 - [45] Quote: get hundreds of convo invites when they next log in now. Unless of course they enjoy the attention. Oh, i forgot to mention. I'm a girl and im sat astride my thorax wearing little pink panties. Any Devs who sign below are officially cool.
Gold Rogers Solitude Empires United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.16 10:28:00 - [46] Originally by: duffmantt Oh, i forgot to mention. I'm a Guy In Real Life and im sat astride my thorax wearing little pink panties. Fixed it for you. ---------
Lexiana Del'Amore Gallente Nouvelle Rouvenor	Posted - 2007.11.16 10:32:00 - [47] i'm looking forward to the walking in stations part as it will give me something other to do than run missions. The industry side of eve does not interest me much and each time ive done some pew pew and killed somebody ive given them a donation to buy a new ship and fittings as i feel bad about it
duffmantt Dragonian Freelancers KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.16 10:36:00 - [48] Quote: The industry side of eve does not interest me much and each time ive done some pew pew and killed somebody ive given them a donation to buy a new ship and fittings as i feel bad about it Thats the great thing about Eve, you just play as you want to play. Im fully into pew pew but, hell, im really looking forward to ambulation. Vareity is the spice of life and i'd love to go on an op then mess around in stations for a few hours drinking in a bar with my friends (and enemies). Any Devs who sign below are officially cool.
SoftRevolution	Posted - 2007.11.16 10:38:00 - [49] Edited by: SoftRevolution on 16/11/2007 10:39:48 EVE feels really antisocial when you start playing. There's little or no reason to group up to do any of the low level PVE stuff. I think fixing that in combination with the ambulation stuff and faction warfare (i.e. moar ingame fiction and social stuff) would probably take care of a lot of the more stereotypical reasons why EVE is unappealing to women. Mind you, most of the girls I know who game I met playing Planetside which was a glorified FPS. Not sure how social and friendly that game was really. Despite claims otherwise I'm sure most of them just liked shooting people in the facebones. Interestingly I've had the same responses from the couple of people I've tried to get interested in EVE regardless of gender - that it's repetitive, that there is too much travelling and that the amount of time it takes to be able to do anything worthwhile is far too long. EVE RELATED CONTENT
Fuazzole	Posted - 2007.11.16 12:34:00 - [50] It's like the perv! thread. People should realy think about it before they post the names and personal details (gender) of others.
benzss Templar Securities and Holdings Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.11.16 12:39:00 - [51] I successfully got my girlfriend to play eve a couple of months ago, and she still plays. I think I win this thread.
Cypherous Minmatar Liberty Rogues Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.11.16 12:47:00 - [52] I've known a number of female EVE players over my time in EVE, all very nice people some who have shot me and some who i've shot, just treat them like you would everyone else :) --------- Liberty Rogues Website
duffmantt Dragonian Freelancers KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.16 12:47:00 - [53] My mum started playing eve on release and she got me to join. I think i win (she doesnt play anymore sadly) Any Devs who sign below are officially cool.
xRazoRx The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2007.11.16 13:20:00 - [54] I can confirm that there are 3 (three) girls in my corporation.
Dr Paithos Minmatar Republic Deep Space Institute	Posted - 2007.11.16 13:25:00 - [55] I can confirm that if you're a girl playing eve and get smacked about it (happens often) the most hilarious thing to do is pretend you're a * guy and it's turning you on Originally by:** RedFall How dare you try to argue my point with your so called "evidence". I don't need any, I have truthiness on my side.
Obidom Jax	Posted - 2007.11.16 13:27:00 - [56] Originally by: Brianna Tempest You're all a bunch of wusses. Who is to say that a female can't be hot, play eve, and love shopping and flowers at the same time? I pod all my kills, btw. Now why cant i meet a woman just like this? Maybe we should start an Eve Speed dating, everyone turns up in pods to be safe (then see how long it takes for someone to gatecrash and start podding!!)
Kalahari Wayrest	Posted - 2007.11.16 13:29:00 - [57] Quote: So to sum up, I don't think you can lump women into a group and say what they are interested in. Sense! __________________________ Indulge Me Consider Yourself Indulged - Immy ♥ Wow immy scored - Xorus
NoobALTS	Posted - 2007.11.16 13:30:00 - [58] Originally by: Tarminic EVE's female population is about 5%, so based on accounts that would be approximately 10,000 ladies. And how many of these were actually born female?
Dr Paithos Minmatar Republic Deep Space Institute	Posted - 2007.11.16 13:32:00 - [59] Originally by: NoobALTS Originally by: Tarminic EVE's female population is about 5%, so based on accounts that would be approximately 10,000 ladies. And how many of these were actually born female? All except your mum Originally by: RedFall How dare you try to argue my point with your so called "evidence". I don't need any, I have truthiness on my side.
The Herrick Gallente Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.11.16 13:33:00 - [60] I'd rather not think about that Anyway I think most of us agree that while girls lack that floppy thing they're just the same as the rest of EvE.
Myz Toyou Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.11.16 13:43:00 - [61] Oceana has for sure the hottest voice I ever heard on TS/Vent and also likes to be primary -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your signature image exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Ares Lightfeather Gallente	Posted - 2007.11.16 13:54:00 - [62] Quote: EVE's female population is about 5%, so based on accounts that would be approximately 10,000 ladies. You mean that 5% of the players use their girlfriend / mother credit card ? -- Siggie ! Come back here ! -- Originally by: Victor Valka Originally by: MotherMoon well a drone UI is a bit of an artist job Drone AI is obviously done by an artist too. One that is heavily into abstract
Snake Doctor MacroIntel United Corporations Against Macros	Posted - 2007.11.16 15:32:00 - [63] There are girls who play eve. I can confirm at least 4. I will direct you to this, however. Join Macrointel!
Kol Hauksness	Posted - 2007.11.16 16:08:00 - [64] Originally by: Shakalakahiki Anyone have any suggestions on what would bring in more girls? The sole purpose of the ambulation project is exactly that. It's been publicly stated.
fuze	Posted - 2007.11.16 16:24:00 - [65] Originally by: Tarminic EVE's female population is about 5%, so based on accounts that would be approximately 10,000 ladies. 5% female, 5% male and 90% drunken pervs which happen to be male but nobody actually cares.
Shakalakahiki	Posted - 2007.11.16 17:14:00 - [66] Some neat ideas. Hoping for more though, especially from females. As an aside, to the people who are "defending" female eve players, there is no need. This is not an attack on the female character what so ever. There are clear distinctions between male and female tastes (as you can see, only 5 % of eve is female). The point of this thread is to address this issu and to add content that would be more appealing to females in general. Alot of people have mentioned that girls are no different than guys and then list friends they've met on eve. Yet wouldn't that be skewed? The girls who do come on to play eve are attracted to what eve is offereing now. So the ones that are here would have more similiar mindset to the males who already play. The goal of this thread is, however, to bring up content that would be appealing to female gamers outside of eve, while still maintaining the core that is eve.
Leroy Payne	Posted - 2007.11.16 17:14:00 - [67] Hi2U I R GRL, SEND ISK PLS111
Snake Doctor MacroIntel United Corporations Against Macros	Posted - 2007.11.16 17:53:00 - [68] Yeah-- would you like to be the only girl in a room of 19 guys, 12 of which have no discernible social skills? No. Probably not. Just a thought. The females in-game are not going to outright tell you who they are. Join Macrointel!
Korran Minare Gallente Spaced Cowboys	Posted - 2007.11.16 17:55:00 - [69] one of the gals i went to college with plays eve, and i know its her cause when i started playing eve she messaged me on Xfire and was like oh you play eve now, coool.
Thenoran Caldari Frontier Economics Fallout Project	Posted - 2007.11.16 17:57:00 - [70] Originally by: Maltitol Originally by: Tarminic EVE's female population is about 5%, so based on accounts that would be approximately 10,000 ladies. more fish in the sea my ass.. only 10,000? i'm calling DIBS! On which planet would that sea happen to be?
000Hunter000 Gallente Magners Marauders	Posted - 2007.11.16 18:06:00 - [71] Originally by: Shakalakahiki What could we do to make it more appealing to the female audience? (nintendogs aside) Ambulation and different outfits offcourse. CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!! Magners is now recruiting, evemail me or Dagazbo ingame.
Kaaii Caldari Kaaii-Net Research Labs	Posted - 2007.11.16 18:13:00 - [72] Oh, this thread is going places, I can feel it..... According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
Lance Tyr Minmatar C-R Logistics Detrimental Imperative	Posted - 2007.11.16 18:18:00 - [73] Originally by: Shakalakahiki Edited by: Shakalakahiki on 16/11/2007 18:12:23 How many females play ever? Are there any known statistics? Also, please comment on how we could attract more Female players. (ie new content, different mechanics, advertising) Why do you care? Eve isn't a dating service...
Shakalakahiki	Posted - 2007.11.16 18:22:00 - [74] Edited by: Shakalakahiki on 16/11/2007 18:23:05 Originally by: Lance Tyr Originally by: Shakalakahiki Edited by: Shakalakahiki on 16/11/2007 18:12:23 How many females play ever? Are there any known statistics? Also, please comment on how we could attract more Female players. (ie new content, different mechanics, advertising) Why do you care? Eve isn't a dating service... There is more to women than just dating them. It is possible to be friends with someone from the opposite sex and to engage in activitise with them that are platonic. There are many reasons why introducing materials that would attract females to eve would be beneficial: 1) opens up new market possibilities 2) diversifies the gaming experience (through content) 3) would help expand the eve population 4) would diversify the population, giving a richer game experience etc etc etc
Nicho Void Hyper-Nova	Posted - 2007.11.16 18:33:00 - [75] Edited by: Nicho Void on 16/11/2007 18:33:54 Wrong thread. I lose at forums. ---------------
SiJira	Posted - 2007.11.17 22:06:00 - [76] there are no girls in eve shhhhh ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem
Drakolus Amarr NCL Research	Posted - 2007.11.17 23:08:00 - [77] What happens when eve voice, ambulation and more girls meet EVE? "Lock, got point, shields, armor..." In her sweetest voice "Hey there honey, check these out..." a few seconds later "Wha, why am I in the clone bay?" NCL Research - We don't research jack
Thorion Mortisfilius	Posted - 2007.11.18 04:14:00 - [78] I flew (flown?) with two female pilots that I knew were women and would not hesitate to fly with them again. They were as ruthless & calculating as any other pilot I have met. On the note of what can be used to attract more into the game: I don't believe game content is a major contributor here as much as the ratio of women-to-men that actually get into gaming in general. I wish it wasn't so though, because in my experience women bring a totally different aspect to any game due to their unique approach to most things. Example: Males see a fly and pick up the biggest object he can gets his hands on and smashes it. Females breakout fly strips and poisons so the creature will die slowly and/or horribly.
Ron Hauller Gallente The Wild Bunch INTERDICTION	Posted - 2007.11.18 05:12:00 - [79] Don't be silly. Women are a myth. A myth perpetuated by people that are trying to prevent me from playing Internet Spaceships in my free time. runs away
Dextrius Gallente ironwood ink	Posted - 2007.11.18 07:50:00 - [80] There are plenty of girls in EVE.... a whole alliance full of them just look at goonswarm Ruin EVE? Some Goonswarm members gloat, destroy EVE Online
Lakshmii D'hara Federation	Posted - 2007.11.18 08:48:00 - [81] Quote: 3) would help expand the eve population Hehe, I think we're getting ahead of ourselves a little here... nudgenudge ________
SoftRevolution	Posted - 2007.11.18 11:07:00 - [82] Originally by: Dextrius There are plenty of girls in EVE.... a whole alliance full of them just look at goonswarm This would work so much better if SomethingAwful wasn't renowned for it's shambling neckbeard population. EVE RELATED CONTENT
Sakura Nihil Stimulus	Posted - 2007.11.18 11:19:00 - [83] Damn, I missed the start of the tri-annual posting of the "OMG Gurlz!" question ... Say no to knee-jerk additions and nerfs, mmkay?
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.11.18 11:41:00 - [84] Girls? In EVE? Pfft, right, next thing you'll be saying that you're NOT living in your parents basement, surrounded by your star wars collectibles, don't have skin problems and have a social life My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
d026 THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.11.18 12:33:00 - [85] our ceo is female and pwns.
saskia	Posted - 2007.11.18 12:38:00 - [86] I think the biggest barrier to female players is the fact that it is a science fiction game. The reality is that eve is probably more suited to female players than most other games the slow burning and adaptable aspect of the game play make it perfect. The problem is hooking them first I could suggest advertising specifically aimed at women but that has probably already been done. On the subject of ambulation I don't want it, it makes me very afraid I fear change. Saskia (female by the way)
Pitt Bull Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.18 12:42:00 - [87] Only ugly girls use the internet...
Miz Cenuij Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.11.18 12:46:00 - [88] Space sl*ts do it with pirates. "Men are going to die... and I'm going to kill them"
Jmarr Hyrgund Astrometrics Unlimited	Posted - 2007.11.18 12:49:00 - [89] @ Pit Bull, Switch it around: Only spotty nerds with no social skills use the internet. Join the 21st century already. "I can't afford to 0wn, is it possible to r3nt?"
The Herrick Gallente Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.11.18 12:50:00 - [90] Originally by: Pitt Bull Only ugly girls use the internet... Well only ugly guys use the internet too. The rest are off finding out how a girl's soft and squishy bits work.
Pitt Bull Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.18 12:59:00 - [91] You guys need to speak for yourselves.
Cruthensis Gallente Farmer Killers United Corporations Against Macros	Posted - 2007.11.18 13:18:00 - [92] Originally by: Pitt Bull Only ugly girls use the internet... Originally by: Pitt Bull You guys need to speak for yourselves. I see what you did there Did you? 1. Buy Vexor 2. Fit for Gank 3. Suicide ISK farmer 4. Grind sec 5. see 1.
Drakolus Amarr NCL Research	Posted - 2007.11.18 14:44:00 - [93] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Girls? In EVE? Pfft, right, next thing you'll be saying that you're NOT living in your parents basement, surrounded by your star wars collectibles, don't have skin problems and have a social life HEAVENS! I would NEVER think to claim such a thing. We all know intarweb spaceships are serious business. On that note, hell yes I am having fun posting in the tri-annual OMG Gurlz thread :) NCL Research - We don't research jack
Adunh Slavy KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.18 15:36:00 - [94] Ambulation will help bring more females to Eve, and not because they can wear clothes and decorate stuff, but because it can add depth to the context of relationships between players. We males are a pretty shallow lot compared to females when it comes to relationships. Social interaction and the vagaries of social politicking are lost on most of us gorillas, but contain depths of play potential for females that no game mechanics can ever simulate. Game mechanics however can help create the environments for more social interaction, and Ambulation will do that very well I think. -AS The Real Space Initiative (Forum Link)
Snake Doctor MacroIntel United Corporations Against Macros	Posted - 2007.11.18 16:16:00 - [95] /me struggles to find continuing content in this thread. [x] Fail Join Macrointel!
JonVe Gallente The Greater Goon GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.18 17:16:00 - [96] Originally by: Dextrius There are plenty of girls in EVE.... a whole alliance full of them just look at goonswarm I can confirm this.
Lisento Slaven Amarr Capitalism Amuck	Posted - 2007.11.18 17:18:00 - [97] I know how to attract more female players. Put up your A/S/L stats and pics lolz 22/M/IN got pics 4 reel --- Put in space whales!
SiJira	Posted - 2007.11.18 19:21:00 - [98] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Girls? In EVE? Pfft, right, next thing you'll be saying that you're NOT living in your parents basement, surrounded by your star wars collectibles, don't have skin problems and have a social life we would never believe you if you said such things ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem
Triksterism Gallente Image Not Found	Posted - 2007.11.18 22:58:00 - [99] I'm gonna go ahead and add some grief here and proclaim "Nerds." ----------------------------------- *CCP Please update my portrait on the website/forums :D*
Ecchus Minmatar Egbinger Mining Co	Posted - 2007.11.19 00:03:00 - [100] What's a female? ========== Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering whale; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee.. - Melville.
Nice Guy	Posted - 2007.11.19 00:05:00 - [101] Originally by: Ecchus What's a female? Something that is seen in real life.. You know, that upcoming expantion from EVE?
Shakalakahiki	Posted - 2007.11.19 18:44:00 - [102] Originally by: Adunh Slavy Ambulation will help bring more females to Eve, and not because they can wear clothes and decorate stuff, but because it can add depth to the context of relationships between players. We males are a pretty shallow lot compared to females when it comes to relationships. Social interaction and the vagaries of social politicking are lost on most of us gorillas, but contain depths of play potential for females that no game mechanics can ever simulate. Game mechanics however can help create the environments for more social interaction, and Ambulation will do that very well I think. Exaclty the kind of input I'm looking for. So expanding on this, what else can be done?
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.11.19 18:47:00 - [103] Fee-Male: (noun) More expensive version of a male. Originally by: Cecil Montague They should change that warning on entering low sec to: "Go read Crime and Punishment for a few days then come back."
Adunh Slavy Ammatar Trade Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.19 19:20:00 - [104] Edited by: Adunh Slavy on 19/11/2007 19:23:22 Edited by: Adunh Slavy on 19/11/2007 19:20:25 Originally by: Shakalakahiki Originally by: Adunh Slavy We males are a pretty shallow lot compared to females when it comes to relationships. Social interaction and the vagaries of social politicking are lost on most of us gorillas, but contain depths of play potential for females that no game mechanics can ever simulate. Exaclty the kind of input I'm looking for. So expanding on this, what else can be done? This is going to sound completely nuts to most people, it sounds pretty goofy to me too, but I think females would like this basic idea. I will for lack of a better term call it a "friend tree". Allow players to say who their friends are, a public list and a private list, and a player can allow anyone in the private list to see the rest of the private list, anyone can see the public friends list. If you click on a player's "friend" it will take you to that player's friend list, etc. etc, round and round. As a guy I don't really give a carp about something like this as it holds little value to me. But females love that kind of stuff in my experience. It adds a social element to the game, who's in who's in crowd, who knows who, why does sally the evil -10 pirate know Jenny the happy fluffy carebear? These things interest females to no end and are mostly ignored by males and/or not taken very seriously by males. It adds a very deep social element that is completely under player controls that has zero impact on our little ships. -AS The Real Space Initiative (Forum Link)
Val Vympel	Posted - 2007.11.19 20:07:00 - [105] The more I read this thread,the more I feel like a "Unicorn" or some other rare mythical creature. No flame intended towards the OP of this thread,if of course your intentions for the thread are simple curiosity and good natured. A question or two if I may... What difference does it really make what gender a player is? A friend is a friend....right? I don't want to jump to conclusions about anyone's intentions,however it seems in my opinion that the purpose of this thread is a veiled attempt to "expose" women for a purpose I cannot fathom. Confused
An Anarchyyt Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.11.19 20:12:00 - [106] Originally by: Val Vympel The more I read this thread,the more I feel like a "Unicorn" or some other rare mythical creature. No flame intended towards the OP of this thread,if of course your intentions for the thread are simple curiosity and good natured. A question or two if I may... What difference does it really make what gender a player is? A friend is a friend....right? I don't want to jump to conclusions about anyone's intentions,however it seems in my opinion that the purpose of this thread is a veiled attempt to "expose" women for a purpose I cannot fathom. Confused How can I make my Eve-Base ** without women? Duh. Originally by:** CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Adunh Slavy Ammatar Trade Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.19 20:13:00 - [107] Originally by: Val Vympel What difference does it really make what gender a player is? A friend is a friend....right? Heh. I am not the OP, but I think the intention was honorable, how to attract females to Eve and not some veiled attempt to talk about the Freudian fun one can have with females flying Thoraxes. -AS The Real Space Initiative (Forum Link)
Rydis Minmatar Death of Virtue	Posted - 2007.11.19 20:14:00 - [108] Edited by: Rydis on 19/11/2007 20:16:01 Edited by: Rydis on 19/11/2007 20:15:34 Soooo... I read this entire thread and at one point thought I would reply in one way, then by the time I got a few more posts down, I thought about adding some other response and by the time I finished, decided no response really might be the best response. My response of no response has now been posted. p.s. could someone humor me and go post a picture of their pet in my thread on Out of Pod Experiences? ~~~squeak* Daddy can I kill him...pleeease?!~~~* [email protected]
An Anarchyyt Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.11.19 20:20:00 - [109] Originally by: An Anarchyyt Originally by: Val Vympel The more I read this thread,the more I feel like a "Unicorn" or some other rare mythical creature. No flame intended towards the OP of this thread,if of course your intentions for the thread are simple curiosity and good natured. A question or two if I may... What difference does it really make what gender a player is? A friend is a friend....right? I don't want to jump to conclusions about anyone's intentions,however it seems in my opinion that the purpose of this thread is a veiled attempt to "expose" women for a purpose I cannot fathom. Confused How can I make my Eve-Base ** without women? Duh. Edit: Even my 1337-sp34k is censored :( Originally by:** CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Snake Doctor MacroIntel United Corporations Against Macros	Posted - 2007.11.19 20:20:00 - [110] Originally by: Adunh Slavy Edited by: Adunh Slavy on 19/11/2007 19:56:02 Edited by: Adunh Slavy on 19/11/2007 19:23:22 Edited by: Adunh Slavy on 19/11/2007 19:20:25 Originally by: Shakalakahiki Originally by: Adunh Slavy We males are a pretty shallow lot compared to females when it comes to relationships. Social interaction and the vagaries of social politicking are lost on most of us gorillas, but contain depths of play potential for females that no game mechanics can ever simulate. Exaclty the kind of input I'm looking for. So expanding on this, what else can be done? This is going to sound completely nuts to most people, it sounds pretty goofy to me too, but I think females would like this basic idea. I will for lack of a better term call it a "friend tree". Allow players to say who their friends are, a public list and a private list, and a player can allow anyone in the private list to see the rest of the private list, anyone can see the public friends list. If you click on a player's "friend" it will take you to that next player's public friend list, etc. etc, round and round. As a guy I don't really give a carp about something like this as it holds little value to me. But females love that kind of stuff in my experience. It adds a social element to the game, who's in who's in crowd, who knows who, why does sally the evil -10 pirate know Jenny the happy fluffy carebear? These things interest females to no end and are mostly ignored by males and/or not taken very seriously by males. It adds a very deep social element that is completely under player controls that has zero impact on our little ships. No to Eve-Myspace Join Macrointel!
Illyrinia	Posted - 2007.11.19 20:22:00 - [111] 99% of the chars that claim to be female arent, and the ones that are female prefer not to be known, i know for sure 4 female pilots.
Haradgrim Caldari The Wild Bunch INTERDICTION	Posted - 2007.11.19 20:26:00 - [112] I know at least 1 FC who's a woman Hell hath no fury a woman scorned, but I fear a woman with good gang bonuses more! Your signature exceeds the byte me limit allowed on the forums-Darth Patches Oh Noes!
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.11.19 20:34:00 - [113] You want more female players in EVE? The answer is simple. Step 1: Ambulation. Step 2: Introduce decorating. It MAY sound sexist or whatever thing you want to call it, but the MAJOR element in SW:G and female playerbase was that you could get a house, decorate it and by gods, was it fun. HEck, they even had a Decorating competition monthly if i remember correctly. And it's not "bad for EVE", if anything else, it would make the space pewpew more manly, dangerous, out there and "living it up". My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Ch1xOr Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.11.19 20:35:00 - [114] Originally by: Adunh Slavy This is going to sound completely nuts to most people, it sounds pretty goofy to me too, but I think females would like this basic idea. I will for lack of a better term call it a "friend tree". Allow players to say who their friends are, a public list and a private list, and a player can allow anyone in the private list to see the rest of the private list, anyone can see the public friends list. If you click on a player's "friend" it will take you to that next player's public friend list, etc. etc, round and round. As a guy I don't really give a carp about something like this as it holds little value to me. But females love that kind of stuff in my experience. It adds a social element to the game, who's in who's in crowd, who knows who, why does sally the evil -10 pirate know Jenny the happy fluffy carebear? These things interest females to no end and are mostly ignored by males and/or not taken very seriously by males. It adds a very deep social element that is completely under player controls that has zero impact on our little ships. Except when your ship get blown up because you know the wrong people who know the wrong people....etc Seriously, if you want a 'deep social element' look at the politics, look at the market, though, run awaaay from missions. As for attracting women: As with all things, if you try and make everyone happy you end up with flavourless mash. Eve is good as it is, and it offers something for most people. Good enough i think.
An Anarchyyt Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.11.19 20:37:00 - [115] Originally by: Sheriff Jones You want more female players in EVE? The answer is simple. Step 1: Ambulation. Step 2: Introduce decorating. It MAY sound sexist or whatever thing you want to call it, but the MAJOR element in SW:G and female playerbase was that you could get a house, decorate it and by gods, was it fun. HEck, they even had a Decorating competition monthly if i remember correctly. And it's not "bad for EVE", if anything else, it would make the space pewpew more manly, dangerous, out there and "living it up". Yet, most of the girls who I have shown Eve have never asked about either of those things. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.11.19 21:01:00 - [116] Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 19/11/2007 21:00:56 Originally by: An Anarchyyt Yet, most of the girls who I have shown Eve have never asked about either of those things. But, if you mentioned to thoe same girls, while showing EVE, that there's ambulation coming, where you can walk around stations, hang out in bars, decorate your own apartment with cool stuff...well..you get the point. Women rarely ask things like "well can you do this in the game?", and mostly wait for you to show what you can do. But i could almost bet(dependant on girl entirely), that MOST girls would like those features. My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Shakalakahiki	Posted - 2007.11.19 21:07:00 - [117] Edited by: Shakalakahiki on 19/11/2007 21:09:44 Originally by: Val Vympel The more I read this thread,the more I feel like a "Unicorn" or some other rare mythical creature. No flame intended towards the OP of this thread,if of course your intentions for the thread are simple curiosity and good natured. A question or two if I may... What difference does it really make what gender a player is? A friend is a friend....right? I don't want to jump to conclusions about anyone's intentions,however it seems in my opinion that the purpose of this thread is a veiled attempt to "expose" women for a purpose I cannot fathom. Confused I'm not offended by your comment, but it does make me look creepy! This thread is to serve one purpose: to generate information and ideas on how to increase the population of female eve players. It's pretty obvious that video games are a male dominated hobby; however, if you've been paying attention to Nintendo, you'll notice things are changing. Markets are becoming saturated and games are becoming repetitive. What nintendy is doing, is creating something that is appealing to old video game junkies, part time players and people who don't play video games. Now before anyone chews my head off with "the wii blows goats compared to 360's !337 grafix!1!1!one!!!1! eleven", try to take a look at the similiarities between even and the Wii/DS. In eve, the developers have given a wide range of choices and try not to force the players into anything. This parallels with wii because Nintendo is creating a wide variety of games for many different people. In eve you can be a miner, trader, corporate head-honcho, a pirate, a bounty hunter etc etc. In short, it appeals to a wide variety of game styles and preferences. Although much work has been put in to eve to create a sandbox, open ended game, the lack of a female audience is quite apparent. You might argue that it's video games or MMORPG's that don't appeal, which is definitly partlyt he cause, yet it is not entirely the reason. Look at WOW for example, (don't worry, I do not want Eve to become a WOW), when I played for the month or so that I played, I noticed far more females there than on Eve. That was probably the only thing that I liked more on WOW than Eve (everything else on eve is just better). So my intent, I assure you, is only to bring up interesting ideas to develope Eve further more into the sandbox style game that it is, by catering more to the female population. There are some wonderful female-oriented games (if you can call them that) such as "The Sims". I think if some of the detailes of "The Sims" were implemented into this game, it would develop into a more robust, wider appealing, sandbox style game that more people would enjoy. Beyond that, the people that alreay play or played Eve could expand their activities into other realsm (Inter-galactic casino tournaments, outer-realm monster collecting, costume design and manufacturing etc etc)
Apocryphon	Posted - 2007.11.19 21:48:00 - [118] http://eve.enviroweb.org/ Plenty of women in Eve Online, check their site.
Illyrinia Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.19 21:54:00 - [119] Originally by: Apocryphon http://eve.enviroweb.org/ Plenty of women in Eve Online, check their site. lol thats um... awkward
Val Vympel	Posted - 2007.11.19 21:58:00 - [120] Originally by: Shakalakahiki Edited by: Shakalakahiki on 19/11/2007 21:09:44I'm not offended by your comment, but it does make me look creepy! This thread is to serve one purpose: to generate information and ideas on how to increase the population of female eve players. Sorry,I did not want you to feel creepy. Thank you for responding and for the clarification of your topic. I understand now. In appreciation,and to honor the intent of your thread I have been trying to think of ways that EVE could appeal to and sign-up more women. Unfortunatly,I'm at a loss for a specific idea. In general,it is my belief that EVE could benefit from better marketing. That may seem odd considering the game is more than four years old,however McDonalds,Coca-Cola etc. spend 10's of millions or more every year to keep their product name in the forefront. Believe it or not I discovered this game by accident while checking out game reviews on a Christian video game review website. My first MMO was SWG in 03'...but I never really followed all the new games being developed or in the case of EVE the other games of that time. If EVE slipped past me...a player semi-immersed for 4 years in the MMO community..I think that may signal a need for better marketing. For what it is worth...
An Anarchyyt Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.11.19 22:08:00 - [121] Originally by: Val Vympel spend 10's of millions or more every year to keep their product name in the forefront. Replace the M with a B and you're much closer to the target. All those companies also have vastly more resources than CCP. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Kalahari Wayrest	Posted - 2007.11.19 22:19:00 - [122] Edited by: Kalahari Wayrest on 19/11/2007 22:20:47 ...There's a bit of a fault to this line of questioning. The idea that there are specific things that could be done to 'attract females' just makes so many assumptions, the main being that there is a one ideal you have of 'female players' that you form in your head initially before you think of things which might appeal to the imaginary 'her'. Which is balls. Turn the question around and you can see how silly it is. What could you do to a game to get men to play it? Now look at eve and consider how diverse it is, given your arguement assumes that by needing to attract females, it currently only attracts men (or is designed in that way) there is a plethora of different play styles at work - eve is dynamic and diverse and able to suit different types of players. I'd be unable to break it down really, given peoples 'roles' tend to overlap, but the game play is very varied and allows both peace and pewpew, cooperation and competiton, and all the space inbetween. As such, there's no one idealized 'man' who plays eve, and the different roles players undertake are often competing and conflicting. So why are you assuming theres one idealized 'female' who could be appealed to? Any attempts to 'target' females like this, and simplify them into one characteristic of 'femininity' (some great examples in this thread, females like decorating, the sims, nintendogs...) is misguided and patronising. Leave eve the way it is. The players who like it will play it, the ones who don't won't. As for less women playing games than men, society I think, needs to change before that stigma is lost rather than the games attempting to feminize them to make women playing games more socially acceptable. edit: the short version is, my problem with your question isn't that you aren't treating women the same as men, it's that you're suggesting all women are the same. __________________________ Indulge Me Consider Yourself Indulged - Immy ♥ Wow immy scored - Xorus
Rydis Minmatar Death of Virtue	Posted - 2007.11.19 22:32:00 - [123] Finally. A good response. My boyfriend tried getting me to eve for months before I finally relented to just try the trial. I said there was no way I would like something like Eve. I really like Eve. ----------------------------------------------- ~~~squeak* Daddy can I kill him...pleeease?!~~~* [email protected]
Dr Paithos Minmatar Republic Deep Space Institute	Posted - 2007.11.19 23:11:00 - [124] Edited by: Dr Paithos on 19/11/2007 23:12:43 Eve will have more women playing when there aren't ****** threads like this made every week Seriously if girls wanted to hang out with a load of acne-ridden guys with aspergers they'd go volunteer to work with the disabled The number one thing you could all do to "attract girls to eve lol" is to shut the hell up Originally by:** RedFall How dare you try to argue my point with your so called "evidence". I don't need any, I have truthiness on my side.
Ancy Denaries Caldari Isseras Manufacture	Posted - 2007.11.20 13:17:00 - [125] Originally by: Dr Paithos Edited by: Dr Paithos on 19/11/2007 23:12:43 Eve will have more women playing when there aren't ******** threads like this made every week Seriously if girls wanted to hang out with a load of acne-ridden guys with aspergers they'd go volunteer to work with the disabled The number one thing you could all do to "attract girls to eve lol" is to shut the hell up I take offence in you stating that aspergers is a grave disability, and I also dislike the tone in which you use it. My girlfriend is a so called aspergers, and I happen to love her still. There's nothing bad with it once you can handle it.
ShardowRhino Caldari Species 5618 R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.11.20 14:19:00 - [126] Originally by: Val Vympel Originally by: Leora Nomen For one thing it stops people from refering to you as 'he' all the time. Even if you play a female character they still do it. If you are a guy and play a male character and your friends in game would refer to you as 'she' all the time i'm sure you'd tell them that you're a 'he' in fact without trying to advertise anything. I gently correct any player that assumes that I am a gender other than what my portrait displays. It doesn't bother me when it happens. I am particularly fond of being called "dude" I usually ask that the player interject "ette" as a suffix next time. "Hey Bro" is another favorite. I prefer not to know the "true" gender of player.If I know and it is different from what their portrait displays I still tend to address them according to what I see in their portrait anyway. I would like to commend the male population of EVE. I have played for 6 months and have never been disrespected because of my gender or had to deal with anything vulgar or sexually innappropriate. Thanks "GUYS" we..apparently haven't met :)
ShardowRhino Caldari Species 5618 R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.11.20 14:22:00 - [127] Originally by: Illyrinia Originally by: Apocryphon http://eve.enviroweb.org/ Plenty of women in Eve Online, check their site. lol thats um... awkward can we say Fem****s?
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.11.20 14:23:00 - [128] Originally by: ShardowRhino we..apparently haven't met :) I was just thinking that i'm so ashamed of our "male" population...6 months and NO sexual innuendo? What gives! My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Rydis Minmatar Death of Virtue	Posted - 2007.11.20 14:30:00 - [129] Edited by: Rydis on 20/11/2007 14:33:45 Edited by: Rydis on 20/11/2007 14:33:20 "I would like to commend the male population of EVE. I have played for 6 months and have never been disrespected because of my gender or had to deal with anything vulgar or sexually innappropriate. Thanks "GUYS"" Um. I would feel really weird if the guys I fly with weren't vulgar or sexually inappropriate, because then I'd know they were being different and out of their element because I was there! I do put my face into my hands a lot but they make me laugh. ----------------------------------------------- ~~~squeak* Daddy can I kill him...pleeease?!~~~* [email protected]

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