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UMEE	Posted - 2007.11.27 11:12:00 - [1] I understand that there's a shift toward using more of the GPU instead of the CPU...but I can't help but worry about the huge amount of detail that needs to be processed. Do you guys think FPS will decrease or increase? Lag decrease or increase? I'm really excited, and at the same time afraid to be terribly disappointed with the performance of my PC =(
Dristra Amarr Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.27 11:15:00 - [2] I know my pc will grind up the new graphics with a smile, and yes if you have a good pc, eve will be faster with trinity. It's great being Amarr isn't it. Support the introduction of Blaze M crystals for Amarr!
G4sp4h Caldari Legionari	Posted - 2007.11.27 11:22:00 - [3] i have a noob question but trinity will be support multicore cpu? for example core duo quadcore? or not?
UMEE	Posted - 2007.11.27 11:25:00 - [4] my pc is solid i think. it runs eve quite smoothly right now on highest resolution. i have a 7900GS...hoping this will be enough for a smooth trinity experience.
Jen Oniera Yurai-Tenshin Zaibatsu	Posted - 2007.11.27 11:25:00 - [5] I read on another forum, can't remember which, that trinity will support dual core, but not quad core. Of course, running multiple clients will benefit regardless. (Don't quote me)
Shaemell Buttleson Darwin With Attitude oooh Shiny	Posted - 2007.11.27 11:29:00 - [6] Edited by: Shaemell Buttleson on 27/11/2007 11:29:51 Originally by: G4sp4h i have a noob question but trinity will be support multicore cpu? for example core duo quadcore? or not? I remember reading that multicore comps will utitlise all the cores in the future but I'm pretty sure thats when the DX10 version will be released but that isn't going to be this expansion or the next AFAIK. Just he fact the GPU will do alot of the work should in theory speed it up quite nicely. [orange]snip Do not use your signature to troll or insult other EVE players snip - I somehow doubt Rauth put that :) Cortes yeah he did I promise Shae* -Rauth Kivaro (mods@ccpgame
UMEE	Posted - 2007.11.27 11:34:00 - [7] Originally by: Shaemell Buttleson Edited by: Shaemell Buttleson on 27/11/2007 11:29:51 Originally by: G4sp4h i have a noob question but trinity will be support multicore cpu? for example core duo quadcore? or not? I remember reading that multicore comps will utitlise all the cores in the future but I'm pretty sure thats when the DX10 version will be released but that isn't going to be this expansion or the next AFAIK. Just he fact the GPU will do alot of the work should in theory speed it up quite nicely. IF one has a really good video card =P
Mr Saito	Posted - 2007.11.27 11:39:00 - [8] Can someone tell me if my PC will run ok with Trinity? Pentium 4 3.2 GHz 1 GB RAM NVIDIA GeForce 6800

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.11.27 11:41:00 - [9] The new graphics engine was recently put on Singularity (test server) and it was reported that things run a a lot better. This was without the CPU to GPU improvements though, so when those come it'll get even better. Wrangler Community Manager CCP Games, EVE Online Email / Netfang "The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it."

G4sp4h Caldari Legionari	Posted - 2007.11.27 11:43:00 - [10] so multicore cpu & 8800 ftw lol

Scorp Gallente Bladerunners Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.11.27 11:44:00 - [11] I dont think eve will be 'faster' at the moment on my current system im pushing at the 200fps barrier even in space shooting shiney things, but in trinity I doubt very much I will get that level of fps, I dont mind if it drops alot 200 is a bit extreme after all. Its a good thing that the engine is moving over to more GPU intensive. I think it will actually help with mutli client users. I know this wasn't in your post but I think the multi clients will be alot more 'larger'. Look at it this way everybody that plays with more than one client always has a 'main' account. that account they could run under the new engine while they could push all their alts along on the basic client that will be pretty much what we have now. I could actually imagine a much larger amounts of characters being run on one system. Why? well from my understanding the current client is very CPU based and the new basic client shouldn't be much different. The new client high end client will most likely free up some CPU for those alt clients. Hey dont quote me much on this its just my basic understanding and I know very little but its just my thought on it all :). I think the new client should be alot more 'smoother' as in loading of textures will be alot smoother instead of killing you for a few seconds then giving you the client back. Along with any other smoother ways of running the game that you can think of. As said before its doubtful that it will run any where near the speed eve can now but It will be alot more smoother while doing so. Linkeh Pooh
Shaemell Buttleson Darwin With Attitude oooh Shiny	Posted - 2007.11.27 11:49:00 - [12] Originally by: Scorp I dont think eve will be 'faster' at the moment on my current system im pushing at the 200fps barrier even in space shooting shiney things, but in trinity I doubt very much I will get that level of fps, I dont mind if it drops alot 200 is a bit extreme after all. Its a good thing that the engine is moving over to more GPU intensive. I think it will actually help with mutli client users. I know this wasn't in your post but I think the multi clients will be alot more 'larger'. Look at it this way everybody that plays with more than one client always has a 'main' account. that account they could run under the new engine while they could push all their alts along on the basic client that will be pretty much what we have now. I could actually imagine a much larger amounts of characters being run on one system. Why? well from my understanding the current client is very CPU based and the new basic client shouldn't be much different. The new client high end client will most likely free up some CPU for those alt clients. Hey dont quote me much on this its just my basic understanding and I know very little but its just my thought on it all :). I think the new client should be alot more 'smoother' as in loading of textures will be alot smoother instead of killing you for a few seconds then giving you the client back. Along with any other smoother ways of running the game that you can think of. As said before its doubtful that it will run any where near the speed eve can now but It will be alot more smoother while doing so. 200 FPS [orange]snip Do not use your signature to troll or insult other EVE players snip - I somehow doubt Rauth put that :) Cortes yeah he did I promise... Shae* -Rauth Kivaro (mods@ccpg
Abbadon Caldari Pukin' Dogs D0GMA	Posted - 2007.11.27 11:52:00 - [13] Edited by: Abbadon on 27/11/2007 11:52:39 This is all been covered over 9000 ! times but here goes: With the new patch EVERYONE gets the new graphics engine. The new graphics engine uses the GPU far more effectively than current one = MORE FPS FOR EVERY ONE...FULL STOP Also with the new patch comes OPTIONAL models and textures, these are the shiny new graphics. To be able to use the OPTIONAL new graphics you need a DX9c / SM3 graphics card. To check if your card supports these, use this TOOL written by CCP .
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UMEE	Posted - 2007.11.27 12:00:00 - [15] Originally by: Scorp I dont think eve will be 'faster' at the moment on my current system im pushing at the 200fps barrier even in space shooting shiney things, but in trinity I doubt very much I will get that level of fps, I dont mind if it drops alot 200 is a bit extreme after all. Its a good thing that the engine is moving over to more GPU intensive. I think it will actually help with mutli client users. I know this wasn't in your post but I think the multi clients will be alot more 'larger'. Look at it this way everybody that plays with more than one client always has a 'main' account. that account they could run under the new engine while they could push all their alts along on the basic client that will be pretty much what we have now. I could actually imagine a much larger amounts of characters being run on one system. Why? well from my understanding the current client is very CPU based and the new basic client shouldn't be much different. The new client high end client will most likely free up some CPU for those alt clients. Hey dont quote me much on this its just my basic understanding and I know very little but its just my thought on it all :). I think the new client should be alot more 'smoother' as in loading of textures will be alot smoother instead of killing you for a few seconds then giving you the client back. Along with any other smoother ways of running the game that you can think of. As said before its doubtful that it will run any where near the speed eve can now but It will be alot more smoother while doing so. you scare me... if im lucky i get 30fps while doing agent missions, 40-60 flying around. 80 in station. thats on the 7900GS but regardless, i feel better now, thank you CCP dude.
UMEE	Posted - 2007.11.27 12:02:00 - [16] Originally by: CCP Wrangler The new graphics engine was recently put on Singularity (test server) and it was reported that things run a a lot better. This was without the CPU to GPU improvements though, so when those come it'll get even better. oh thats right, but what will happen when you put the actual graphics on there is my question. like the 1.3 gigs worth of details and textures. wont things be different once you upload that on SiSi?
Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2007.11.27 12:08:00 - [17] Edited by: Andrue on 27/11/2007 12:10:08 Originally by: CCP Wrangler The new graphics engine was recently put on Singularity (test server) and it was reported that things run a a lot better. This was without the CPU to GPU improvements though, so when those come it'll get even better. Although probably not if the GPU is crap. My laptop uses the Intel 945 chipset (950 gpu) so I doubt it'll improve much. Although rather oddly the Sisi client says my laptop supports the new content. Oink, oink. Flap, flap. -- (Battle hardened industrialist) [Brackley, UK] My budgie can say "ploppy bottom". You have been warned.
Sleepkevert	Posted - 2007.11.27 12:11:00 - [18] Originally by: CCP Wrangler The new graphics engine was recently put on Singularity (test server) and it was reported that things run a a lot better. This was without the CPU to GPU improvements though, so when those come it'll get even better. You'r actually telling me those aren't in place yet? God damnit you guys are doing a great job optimizing then Can't wait to see the real deal _______ Sign my sig!
Riho Northen Breeze	Posted - 2007.11.27 12:12:00 - [19] i got quad core and 8800gts i hope they put in multi cpu support so i wount get lagged out because of cpu anymore :D so far the few games that have been released whit multi cpu support have been awesome :) (supreme commander shows it the best compareing it to my previeous 1 core cpu :D)
Daram Thakk'ar Minmatar 343rd Mining Division	Posted - 2007.11.27 12:15:00 - [20] Originally by: Scorp I dont think eve will be 'faster' at the moment on my current system im pushing at the 200fps barrier even in space shooting shiney things A million ISK says he's lying through his teeth. I run on a Core2Duo 6600, 4Gb RAM with a 8800GT and not getting anywhere near that FPS count

Dracorimus Caldari 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.11.27 12:18:00 - [21] I get upwards of 160 FPS in space, granted not in all places but in general 160 fps -
SteeleResolve Domination. Cult of War	Posted - 2007.11.27 12:21:00 - [22] Edited by: SteeleResolve on 27/11/2007 12:21:13 Originally by: Daram Thakk'ar Originally by: Scorp I dont think eve will be 'faster' at the moment on my current system im pushing at the 200fps barrier even in space shooting shiney things A million ISK says he's lying through his teeth. I run on a Core2Duo 6600, 4Gb RAM with a 8800GT and not getting anywhere near that FPS count But at what resolutions?
Baleur Miners In Barges Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2007.11.27 12:26:00 - [23] Edited by: Baleur on 27/11/2007 12:26:44 If you get 200fps its time to put on some AF and AA and transparency AA and AA gamma correction and stuff like that.. What are you gonna use 200fps for? NOTHING. Might as well use some of it for increased visuals, damn newbie dorks with their computers their mom bought them, with themselves not even knowing how to change resolutions in a game. Have fun playing in 800x600, enjoy your 200fps. I'd rather have 50fps with kickass awesome resolutions and AA than 200fps and everything looking like a grainy piece of turds. ------------------------- This post represents my entire alliance views and opinions. Not.. ;(
SIlver Light Minmatar 5punkorp EternalRising	Posted - 2007.11.27 12:35:00 - [24] I've tested the new graphics engine on sisi. ON TQ atm I get 35-40 FPS in space with effects and sound off. On Sisi with the same options I get 75-85 FPS in space, so yes, it's better ------ Proud Member of 5punkorp
CaptainSeafort Gallente Through the Looking Glass	Posted - 2007.11.27 12:42:00 - [25] Originally by: Daram Thakk'ar A million ISK says he's lying through his teeth. I run on a Core2Duo 6600, 4Gb RAM with a 8800GT and not getting anywhere near that FPS count Originally by: Baleur If you get 200fps its time to put on some AF and AA and transparency AA and AA gamma correction and stuff like that.. E6850 Dual Core, 8800gtx, 170-240fps with max settings + AA and my 1680x1050 monitor. You can send my million to this character =) "Planets and moons no longer hitch rides on player ships. Their towel privileges have been revoked." HHGG Lives on in EVE!
UMEE	Posted - 2007.11.27 12:42:00 - [26] Originally by: SIlver Light I've tested the new graphics engine on sisi. ON TQ atm I get 35-40 FPS in space with effects and sound off. On Sisi with the same options I get 75-85 FPS in space, so yes, it's better whoa. thats sick =) but, question: this is WITHOUT the new graphics, right?
Daram Thakk'ar Minmatar 343rd Mining Division	Posted - 2007.11.27 12:42:00 - [27] Originally by: SteeleResolve Edited by: SteeleResolve on 27/11/2007 12:21:13 Originally by: Daram Thakk'ar Originally by: Scorp I dont think eve will be 'faster' at the moment on my current system im pushing at the 200fps barrier even in space shooting shiney things A million ISK says he's lying through his teeth. I run on a Core2Duo 6600, 4Gb RAM with a 8800GT and not getting anywhere near that FPS count But at what resolutions? 1280x720 on a 32" LCD
Mc Fraser	Posted - 2007.11.27 12:49:00 - [28] Originally by: watermelon420 Sorry for the noob question, but how do you check how much FPS your game is running at? Ctrl + F
Daram Thakk'ar Minmatar 343rd Mining Division	Posted - 2007.11.27 12:52:00 - [29] Originally by: CaptainSeafort Originally by: Daram Thakk'ar A million ISK says he's lying through his teeth. I run on a Core2Duo 6600, 4Gb RAM with a 8800GT and not getting anywhere near that FPS count Originally by: Baleur If you get 200fps its time to put on some AF and AA and transparency AA and AA gamma correction and stuff like that.. E6850 Dual Core, 8800gtx, 170-240fps with max settings + AA and my 1680x1050 monitor. You can send my million to this character =) In station doesn't count... and yeah, I'd sure take your word for it...
belzebub1 Gallente The Funkalistic SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.27 13:07:00 - [30] Edited by: belzebub1 on 27/11/2007 13:07:31 I do not believe that you are getting 200FPS I am running core 2 Duo, 8800GTX with 4GB ram and 1TB Raid 0 SATA HDD's and I do not get near this. I tend to run eve windowed on dual 19" FP's. Link to a picture of your FPS in space please. Rgds Belz



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