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Xaldor
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Posted - 2007.12.04 09:26:00 -
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When you feel the need to go burn a hole in your lung, log out. How hard is it to do that? If you are not involved in combat before you log-out your ship vanishes and you can take your time with your self-mutilation of your organs.
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Ares Lightfeather
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.12.04 09:33:00 -
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The OP is just a troll. I can't believe people actually treated this thread as something else than a joke.
His point of view his the very reason why suicide ganking should exist, and miss completely the reason why suicide ganking still is unbalanced now.
Well, it was good for a laugh. -- random eve-related content -- |

Zaqar
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Posted - 2007.12.04 09:35:00 -
[63]
Great thread 10/10
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Galack Fyar
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Posted - 2007.12.04 09:38:00 -
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I'd also like to point out that CCP actually say in the official player guide (you really should be reading these things when you start playing):
"Don't play the game in AFK mode. This game is not designed with this kind of playing style in mind and you should NEVER consider your ship and character safe while being away from your computer."
As such, game changes to support AFK play will not happen. I'd suggest you try to quit smoking. It's better for your health and prevents you from needing to go AFK to light up :) |

Zaqar
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Posted - 2007.12.04 09:41:00 -
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lol
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Kazuma Saruwatari
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Posted - 2007.12.04 09:45:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Tarminic FAIL
There is nothing wrong with suicide ganking, carrying around 400 million ISK in a 1 million ISK hauler is absolutely idiotic.
I'm sorry, but this. -
Odd Pod Out, a blog of EVE Online |

Sathynos
Caldari Moronic Confluence
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Posted - 2007.12.04 09:46:00 -
[67]
You wrote urgent in the topic, so I guess devs are now dropping all work and fitting your ship with 100% resists. I bet. -- "Say yes to pron on Concord billboards" campaing. Eve mercenaries portal: http://www.eve-mercs.com |

Zaqar
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Posted - 2007.12.04 09:50:00 -
[68]
Some of you lot are quite thick 
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Gaven Blands
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Posted - 2007.12.04 09:50:00 -
[69]
Watch some old Eve videos involving CONCORD. God I wish I could turn the clock back to two month before Invention was released. That was my Golden era.
That was when EVERY suicide hit cost you one catalyst, and gained you 100 million in T2 strips or Local Hull expanders.
Kolmogorow. You are todays face of whining knob jockey. You seem to like going AFK. Next time you want to post on the forums, may I suggest going AFK instead? --
Awwwww Diddums! Did I wardec your highsec alt recently or something? |

Caldo
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.12.04 09:57:00 -
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to OP:
Yesterday I also got ganked in Uedama. I was lazy on AP in a badger . I got ganked. I mailed the guy to congratulate him and laugh at my Nubbishness.
Move on. NEEEXT.
Caldo
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ChimeraRouge
Caldari Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.12.04 11:00:00 -
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Originally by: Kolmogorow Yesterday I was shot down approaching a gate with a hauler in an empire high-sec system while I was afk smoking at the window. The hauler wasn't worth anything but the cargohold contained stuff worth around 300-400 Mil ISK. Of course I was scanned at the gate by a high-sec pirate (and/or his nearby mate in an industrial/freighter), my stuff was identified as a lot more worth than his battleship and he decided, let's draw an expensive ticket in the ganking lottery.
Wtf are you stupid?
Originally by: Kolmogorow
OK, he failed (can happen). He destroyed my hauler, the loot can dropped, CONCORD took down his battleship and ... the loot container didn't contain the pile of the item he was after (the remaining stuff was almost worthless compared to the BS). So it was an unlucky evening for both of us (more for me, by the way), blowing away half a billion iskies into space.
This is, of course, crap and INACCEPTABLE and can only be the result of a big hole in the game design.
So first of all it MUST be possible to afk smoke at the window without risk while flying through high sec. Nobody can really have the patience and expect or wish to sit in front of the screen, mouse clicking and jumping and waiting for alignment of ships with terrible agility over distances of 10 or 20 or whatever solar systems.
Maybe you should go back to World of****craft
Originally by: Kolmogorow
So I need urgently the following alternative changes in the game mechanics:
Option 1: CONCORD must strike much faster and harder in high sec. Proposal for the storyline background: An ancient paper of the Talocan was discovered describing in detail the construction and deployment of a "wormhole smartbomb" (Note: "The Talocan were masters of Spatial manipulation and Hypereuclidean Mathematics." They were able to do such things!) This nice weapon (controlled only by CONCORD) works like the following: As soon as someone fires the first missile or blaster particle or bullet at a high sec gate a detector installed inside the gate takes notice of that, constructs a wormhole leading directly into the hostile ship, deploys a smartbomb with almost infinite destructive power through that wormhole and blows up the ship. At the same time the wormhole sucks the fired ammunition back before it can reach the attacked ship which will stay happy without a single scratch. All this must work with faster-than-light speed to take also laser guns into account which isn't really a problem for the Talocan. (Note: The Talocan could build technology "even though the scientific theories behind them remain a mystery". Yes, there are things between heaven and earth we cannot understand!)
Option 2: I need an Autopilot-Warp-To-Zero option together with a Autopilot-Cloaked-Alignment-And-Immediate-Warp-After-Decloaking capability. I don't care if this is bound to a module or skill. I will buy the BPO, build the module and train the skill to level 5.
As far as both options allow me to afk smoke at the window it doesn't matter for me which one is choosen.
Because I cannot imagine that anyone (especially the window smokers) will disagree (pirates could still hunt in the middle between two gates waiting for ships with low capacitor capacity coming out of warp directly in front of them - with a little luck), so you only need to sign this petitionlike request for an early implementation in one of the next patches. (If necessary the Trinity patch can be postponed.)
Thank you in advance!
I hope you die of lung cancer afk smoking.
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Gaven Blands
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Posted - 2007.12.04 11:06:00 -
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Edited by: Gaven Blands on 04/12/2007 11:07:00
Originally by: ChimeraRouge I hope you die of lung cancer afk smoking.
I hope Eve University teaches you something about not being a complete knob. --
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Sorted
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2007.12.04 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Kolmogorow
This is, of course, crap and INACCEPTABLE and can only be the result of a big hole in the game design.
So first of all it MUST be possible to afk smoke at the window without risk while flying through high sec. Nobody can really have the patience and expect or wish to sit in front of the screen, mouse clicking and jumping and waiting for alignment of ships with terrible agility over distances of 10 or 20 or whatever solar systems.
You can, SAFESPOT OR DOCK
You want to shave 2 mins off your journey then YOU TAKE THE RISK, Just like the tool who crashes the Million quid sports car doing 110MpH - wants to take a few secs off the joureny and takes the risk. At least you only hurt yourself with your stupidity, impatience and lazyness.
Sorted
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Brixer
Dai Dai Hai
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Posted - 2007.12.04 12:08:00 -
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troll/sarcasm/whiner .. whetever.
Concord is changed in Trinity. They have invented some new nifty gear to render you and your drones useless *fast*. T1 haulers will probably still pop, but you'd have to put an awfull lot of ships on a freighter to make it pop.
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Demarcus
Killjoy.
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Posted - 2007.12.04 12:20:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic FAIL
There is nothing wrong with suicide ganking, carrying around 400 million ISK in a 1 million ISK hauler is absolutely idiotic.
Yup, thats what transport ships are for. ------------------------------------- You are all worthless, and weak.
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Riho
Northen Breeze
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Posted - 2007.12.04 12:21:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic FAIL
There is nothing wrong with suicide ganking, carrying around 400 million ISK in a 1 million ISK hauler is absolutely idiotic.
QFT
if the OP wants to smoke (whats bad for your health anyways), dock. simple95% of hi sec systems have ATLEAST 1 station.
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Minerva Vulcan
Caldari The Nexus Foundation Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2007.12.04 12:43:00 -
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_______________________________ I need new voices in my head, To speak my secret evils with. I need new lovers in my bed, To be my friends and special pets. |

Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.12.04 12:58:00 -
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Great OP. Epic lulz at all the flamers, the FAIL irony is so sweet.
Laughing *with* the op, and **at** the FAILcrew.
Eve-Online: The Text Adventure |

Malcanis
High4Life SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.04 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kolmogorow Yesterday I was shot down approaching a gate with a hauler in an empire high-sec system while I was afk smoking at the window. The hauler wasn't worth anything but the cargohold contained stuff worth around 300-400 Mil ISK. Of course I was scanned at the gate by a high-sec pirate (and/or his nearby mate in an industrial/freighter), my stuff was identified as a lot more worth than his battleship and he decided, let's draw an expensive ticket in the ganking lottery.
OK, he failed (can happen). He destroyed my hauler, the loot can dropped, CONCORD took down his battleship and ... the loot container didn't contain the pile of the item he was after (the remaining stuff was almost worthless compared to the BS). So it was an unlucky evening for both of us (more for me, by the way), blowing away half a billion iskies into space.
This is, of course, crap and INACCEPTABLE and can only be the result of a big hole in the game design.
So first of all it MUST be possible to afk smoke at the window without risk while flying through high sec. Nobody can really have the patience and expect or wish to sit in front of the screen, mouse clicking and jumping and waiting for alignment of ships with terrible agility over distances of 10 or 20 or whatever solar systems.
So I need urgently the following alternative changes in the game mechanics:
Option 1: CONCORD must strike much faster and harder in high sec. Proposal for the storyline background: An ancient paper of the Talocan was discovered describing in detail the construction and deployment of a "wormhole smartbomb" (Note: "The Talocan were masters of Spatial manipulation and Hypereuclidean Mathematics." They were able to do such things!) This nice weapon (controlled only by CONCORD) works like the following: As soon as someone fires the first missile or blaster particle or bullet at a high sec gate a detector installed inside the gate takes notice of that, constructs a wormhole leading directly into the hostile ship, deploys a smartbomb with almost infinite destructive power through that wormhole and blows up the ship. At the same time the wormhole sucks the fired ammunition back before it can reach the attacked ship which will stay happy without a single scratch. All this must work with faster-than-light speed to take also laser guns into account which isn't really a problem for the Talocan. (Note: The Talocan could build technology "even though the scientific theories behind them remain a mystery". Yes, there are things between heaven and earth we cannot understand!)
Option 2: I need an Autopilot-Warp-To-Zero option together with a Autopilot-Cloaked-Alignment-And-Immediate-Warp-After-Decloaking capability. I don't care if this is bound to a module or skill. I will buy the BPO, build the module and train the skill to level 5.
As far as both options allow me to afk smoke at the window it doesn't matter for me which one is choosen.
Because I cannot imagine that anyone (especially the window smokers) will disagree (pirates could still hunt in the middle between two gates waiting for ships with low capacitor capacity coming out of warp directly in front of them - with a little luck), so you only need to sign this petitionlike request for an early implementation in one of the next patches. (If necessary the Trinity patch can be postponed.)
Thank you in advance!
http://support.eve-online.com/Pages/KB/Article.aspx?id=341
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |

Hermosa Diosas
The-Secret-Service Retribution.
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Posted - 2007.12.04 13:27:00 -
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Edited by: Hermosa Diosas on 04/12/2007 13:30:22 I agree that suicide ganking needs to be addressed, especially if done in groups? How not sure? CONCORD yes a i agree should hit harder and alot faster But as i ive said in another post, fit WCS lots of them, fit hardeners to limit the damage given so you can warp away. and most of all if your hauling lots of crap FIT A CLOAK!!
So empire space is not 100% safe whoever thought it was then now realise it isnt.
Quote: Kamikaze attacks
Despite the lack of absolute safety, empire space is still relatively safe. The biggest threat to the average player in Empire space is the risk of ôkamikazeö attacks when carrying a cargo of noteworthy value. Just like on modern day earth, the risk of attack rises with the amount of money sticking out of your pockets. If attacking you becomes a lucrative enough option, the best of neighbourhoods may become unsafe for you to walk around in.
Some players are willing to lose ships and their good standing with Concord for the hope of quick profit from a juicy loot drop. The ôkamikazeö attackers usually work in pairs or groups. They scan the cargo holds of bypassing pilots flying easily destructable ships until they see something worthy of a ship loss. They then blow up the ship and and while Concord do what they do best, a second character picks up the loot from the shipÆs wreck.
This is not seen as an exploit of the intended game mechanics and there is no compensation or reimbursement to be had for losses caused by attacks in secure space.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.12.04 13:29:00 -
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This thread fails so badly, it turned into win. You just paid 400million isk to learn an important lesson my friend. Sig removed for the third time, inappropriate content. Sig Locked. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes |

Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.12.04 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz This thread fails so badly, it turned into win. You just paid 400million isk to learn an important lesson my friend.
Yeah, he learned how many people either failed to read or understand his post, and how many people write automatic replies based on what they *think* he was going to say.
Eve-Online: The Text Adventure |

Adamas Skysail
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Posted - 2007.12.04 13:39:00 -
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Over a day old and 3 pages later and people still don't get it... Glorious!
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Maximillian Power
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.12.04 13:39:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz This thread fails so badly, it turned into win. You just paid 400million isk to learn an important lesson my friend.
no he didn't. |

Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.12.04 13:40:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Sokratesz This thread fails so badly, it turned into win. You just paid 400million isk to learn an important lesson my friend.
Yeah, he learned how many people either failed to read or understand his post, and how many people write automatic replies based on what they *think* he was going to say.
Only read the first post..this is what so many real whiners do to one's brain..standard replies hardwired.. Sig removed for the third time, inappropriate content. Sig Locked. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes |

Freya Runestone
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.12.04 13:58:00 -
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the irony is strong in this one
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P'uck
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Posted - 2007.12.04 14:01:00 -
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Edited by: P''uck on 04/12/2007 14:03:20
Originally by: Kolmogorow
Originally by: Tarminic ...carrying around 400 million ISK in a 1 million ISK hauler is absolutely idiotic.
Yes, but I do that afk.
this post says (at least to me) : trolling.
or at least a somewhat creative way of trying to educate our carebears.
when i carry that much stuff AFK through hisec, i get a BS with a FULL passive HP tank, armor and shield. i mean after all youre afk, right? so how could a DCU that could theoretically double your hull HP be of any use to you? right, no use, since you want to stand at the window, having a smoke. or takin a dump, doin the laundry. whatever.
funny thing is... i tried to explain this concept of passive hp tanking for afk hisec hauling, all i got is flames and flak.
let me just use this spot here to say to all those people (especially to this suicide ganker, that scanned me on the way to jita and then told me "its the worst fit ever", but without being able to gank me )
youre all a bunch of idiots. mixed hp passive tanking is TEH ****nit for afk hauling.
atruemisnomer, you still me owe me 10 mil, because of this bet about the topic. and you know it. im gonna pod you to 0sp and back if you wont pay up... the day i can be bothered to log in, that is 
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Xaen
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.12.04 14:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kolmogorow Yesterday I was shot down approaching a gate with a hauler in an empire high-sec system while I was afk smoking at the window. The hauler wasn't worth anything but the cargohold contained stuff worth around 300-400 Mil ISK. Of course I was scanned at the gate by a high-sec pirate (and/or his nearby mate in an industrial/freighter), my stuff was identified as a lot more worth than his battleship and he decided, let's draw an expensive ticket in the ganking lottery.
I would have ganked you too.
Originally by: Kolmogorow OK, he failed (can happen). He destroyed my hauler,
That's a contradiction. You exploded = he succeeded.
Originally by: Kolmogorow This is, of course, crap and INACCEPTABLE and can only be the result of a big hole in the game design.
Looks fine to me. Let me guess, T1 hauler with minimal tanking modules fitted.
Originally by: Kolmogorow So first of all it MUST be possible to afk smoke at the window without risk while flying through high sec. Nobody can really have the patience and expect or wish to sit in front of the screen, mouse clicking and jumping and waiting for alignment of ships with terrible agility over distances of 10 or 20 or whatever solar systems.
That's just loltastic. Is it unfair that I don't smoke and therefore don't need to afk haul? Nerf non-smokers!
Originally by: Kolmogorow So I need urgently the following alternative changes in the game mechanics:
Option 1: CONCORD must strike much faster and harder in high sec. Proposal for the storyline background: An ancient paper of the Talocan was discovered describing in detail the construction and deployment of a "wormhole smartbomb" (Note: "The Talocan were masters of Spatial manipulation and Hypereuclidean Mathematics." They were able to do such things!) This nice weapon (controlled only by CONCORD) works like the following: As soon as someone fires the first missile or blaster particle or bullet at a high sec gate a detector installed inside the gate takes notice of that, constructs a wormhole leading directly into the hostile ship, deploys a smartbomb with almost infinite destructive power through that wormhole and blows up the ship. At the same time the wormhole sucks the fired ammunition back before it can reach the attacked ship which will stay happy without a single scratch. All this must work with faster-than-light speed to take also laser guns into account which isn't really a problem for the Talocan. (Note: The Talocan could build technology "even though the scientific theories behind them remain a mystery". Yes, there are things between heaven and earth we cannot understand!)
Option 2: I need an Autopilot-Warp-To-Zero option together with a Autopilot-Cloaked-Alignment-And-Immediate-Warp-After-Decloaking capability. I don't care if this is bound to a module or skill. I will buy the BPO, build the module and train the skill to level 5.
lol
Originally by: Kolmogorow As far as both options allow me to afk smoke at the window it doesn't matter for me which one is choosen.
Are you for real?
Originally by: Kolmogorow Because I cannot imagine that anyone (especially the window smokers) will disagree (pirates could still hunt in the middle between two gates waiting for ships with low capacitor capacity coming out of warp directly in front of them - with a little luck), so you only need to sign this petitionlike request for an early implementation in one of the next patches. (If necessary the Trinity patch can be postponed.)
Thank you in advance!
Don't haul a load so expensive that it invites suicide gankers. Break it up. Alternatively, since you're so willing to train skills, use a transport ship. Tank it out. I broke my teeth on a transport ship over the weekend. Did loldamage to it before I got CONCORDOKKEN'D. A battleship ganker can do more, but risks more. If you're hauling a load sweet enough to be attractive to a BS ganker you're a fool. Support fixing the EVE UI | Suggest Jita fixes If you'd suicide gank yourself for what you're hauling, don't.
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Xaen
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.12.04 14:29:00 -
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Originally by: Adamas Skysail Over a day old and 3 pages later and people still don't get it... Glorious!
I see what you did there.  Support fixing the EVE UI | Suggest Jita fixes If you'd suicide gank yourself for what you're hauling, don't.
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Harm Gently
Naughty 40 Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.12.04 14:35:00 -
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this troll was excellent!
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