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firefly5000
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.12.10 03:14:00 -
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MeGotAnswers
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Posted - 2007.12.10 03:14:00 -
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To the OP, so sad, too bad. And I say that as someone who has gotten suicide ganked. Really, CONCORD *AND* should be doing more agressive sec hits for pirating, because there isn't a realistic/RP valid reason why someone can kill 6 ships illegally and suffer any real sanctions. Doubling the initial sec hit to -.2 and making ship destruction -.5 would be imho far more realistic consequences, and would cause empire raiders to be more selective. Perhaps also faction rating hits if you gank someone in a newbie corp, or who has significant standings with that faction.
It would be nice to also have some industrial specific modules/rigs. Something drastic -30 to -50% Cargo, -25% speed, -60% CPU (so it's only practical for industrials), in return for more HP/resistances. It should require a few lvl 3-4 skills, but wouldn't really be as awesome as transports.
Empire piracy it isn't challenging as is now, and its just a little too easy from an RP point of view. It still should exist though.
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SL Helper
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Posted - 2007.12.10 03:28:00 -
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I think that suicidegankings need to be looked at by CCP. I think a module or a special type of container that prevents cargoscanning would be nice. There sould be some kind of drawback (cargospace maybe?) in using them tho.
Btw, isn't it annoying that I type with this increadible large font? Imagine if everyone would start using it. Stop it ffs!
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Spike 68
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.12.10 07:44:00 -
[154]
 Originally by: Tarminic
FAIL
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umop 3pisdn
Minmatar
Fnck the blob.
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Posted - 2007.12.10 07:54:00 -
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Anyone who thinks a hauler is in more danger in empire than in 0.0 doesnt live near me.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2007.12.10 08:14:00 -
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Remove insurance payouts to ships shot down by Concord, problem solved.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Garong
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Posted - 2007.12.10 08:24:00 -
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Removing the insurance payout for the gankers would fix a great deal. Right now there is almost no risk vs a potential huge reward for suiciding.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.12.10 08:32:00 -
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Removing the reward for suicide gankers would also fix a great deal.
Stop moving valuables in T1 haulers and shuttles!
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Galack Fyar
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Posted - 2007.12.10 08:34:00 -
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Edited by: Galack Fyar on 10/12/2007 08:34:24
Edited by: Galack Fyar on 10/12/2007 08:34:11
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Edelhonk
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Posted - 2007.12.10 08:44:00 -
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Edited by: Edelhonk on 10/12/2007 08:46:57
Edited by: Edelhonk on 10/12/2007 08:45:36
jupp...the Insurance is the main problem here.
It nearly no risk for the ganker (the security standing loss is a joke tbh, 1 or 2 hours of rat hunting and tata...im back to my old standing)
The Insurance is part of CONCORDE, but they pay for a ship destroyed by their own security because the ship owner does breaking the law
Its the same if you do a bank robbery, drive away in your own car, your car got crashed by police in the carchase and after that you can take all the money from the robbery and police pay you a new car and you only have to do 3 hours of social work as punishment.....little bit strange.
atm a Indu with a load of 50 Mil ISK is worth a suizide ganking.
btw, all ppl saying "omg, fly in a T2 Indu with tankfitting" and "dont fly afk, noob"
1. the T2 are brought in the game from CCP for lowsec space, check the description
2. did you ever fly 25 or more (even with warp to 0 it takes over 45 min to do a run of 25 jumps) jumps, its boring like hell and i play this game to have fun, not to be bored.
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Edelhonk
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Posted - 2007.12.10 08:52:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Removing the reward for suicide gankers would also fix a great deal.
Stop moving valuables in T1 haulers and shuttles!
seems you are not up to date...atm suizide gankers hunting even Freigters
so you argument is BS
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.12.10 08:53:00 -
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Edited by: Crumplecorn on 10/12/2007 08:55:41
Originally by: Edelhonk
1. the T2 are brought in the game from CCP for lowsec space, check the description
2. did you ever fly 25 or more (even with warp to 0 it takes over 45 min to do a run of 25 jumps) jumps, its boring like hell and i play this game to have fun, not to be bored.
1. Nothing to do with anything.
2. If you don't want to put in the time, then either don't move the stuff, or take the risk of dying.
Originally by: Edelhonk
Originally by: Crumplecorn
Removing the reward for suicide gankers would also fix a great deal.
Stop moving valuables in T1 haulers and shuttles!
seems you are not up to date...atm suizide gankers hunting even Freigters
so you argument is BS
No, I'm afraid my argument would only be 'BS' as you say if only freighters were ganked. Most whines about suicide ganking involved smaller ships. Small time gankers would be out of business is freighters were the only worthy targets.
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Garong
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Posted - 2007.12.10 09:02:00 -
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Edited by: Garong on 10/12/2007 09:04:36
Originally by: Crumplecorn
Removing the reward for suicide gankers would also fix a great deal.
Stop moving valuables in T1 haulers and shuttles!
Like using a blockade runner? I doubt they had high sec hauling in mind when they designed the ship, and its not exactly invulnerable.
Freighters get ganked as well, Inties can get smartbombed.
Theres no ship that is suicide proof, and i'm not asking to change that.
Changing insurance will not turn high sec into happy fluffy carebear land, but it will hurt the wallet for the ganker when he fails/ loot is destroyed.
>edit< wow i post too slow :p
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Kurogauna
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Posted - 2007.12.10 11:15:00 -
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Edited by: Kurogauna on 10/12/2007 11:16:33
I'm a suicide ganker. I agree, it's just too easy to get a great reward without any risks.
But suicide ganking is still a big part of high sec metal game... It's the ability to suicide gank that must be nerfed, but the retaliation from the victim.
please take a look at this post. It's an idea that can affect suicide gank.
Dont like baby blue ? Tell it to the devs HERE, Thanx. |
Jovienus
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Posted - 2007.12.10 11:41:00 -
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Suicide ganking is like real life suicide bombers. Unfortunately no one can really stop them, so I don't see any reason why they should be nerfed in EVE. Afterall one of the greatest aspects of EVE is the feel of realism in terms of social simulation. Anything humans can do in RL can be emulated in EVE from killing, stealing, conning, trading, war, pirating, peace treaties, etc...
So please keep suicide ganking in. It adds spice to an already extraoridinary game.
-J
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Malbolge
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Posted - 2007.12.10 11:46:00 -
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OP is about --><-- this far from Troll Nirvana.
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Vagablonde
Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.12.10 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Jovienus
Suicide ganking is like real life suicide bombers.
-J
Originally by: Jovienus
real life suicide bombers.
-J
Originally by: Jovienus
suicide bombers.
-J
Originally by: Jovienus
suicide
-J
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Garia666
Amarr
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
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Posted - 2007.12.10 11:56:00 -
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Edited by: Garia666 on 10/12/2007 11:56:04
just get a couple of alts suiciding in noob ships on the route which your heading.. So you can spawn allot of concord before you travel.. thats pretty safe
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Uhr Zylex
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Posted - 2007.12.10 14:53:00 -
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all aboard the failtrain
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Jovienus
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Posted - 2007.12.10 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Vagablonde
Originally by: Jovienus
Suicide ganking is like real life suicide bombers.
-J
Originally by: Jovienus
real life suicide bombers.
-J
Originally by: Jovienus
suicide bombers.
-J
Originally by: Jovienus
suicide
-J
And your point is?
Its a perfectly valid statement, players are using suicidal tactics to achieve a specific goal. Just like suicide bombers in real life using their suicide bombing to achieve their goals. The only difference thank god is that suicide bomber don't have access to clone vats. 
I can't see anyway to code a solution here even if we wanted too. How do you tell a computer the difference between a suicide ganker and an accidental hi-sec engagement or misfire! Would you servely punish all of them on top of the already damaging loss of their ship?
I think as it stand CCP should stop NERFING everything in sight. It might not be nice but it is a feature of the game, if you begin to NERF what players can do with their ships in EVE then how long will it be before you end up not being able to do anything due to someone crying foul.
I sympathize with the loss of the ship I myself suffered the loss of a 250Mil ISKs Raven is a camping Mothership when entering a lo-sec system. I didn't once cry foul... I took the beating lost the ship like I knew damn well I would do and simply brought a new one, ok so a week later a lost that one too, but hey thats my bad luck, it could happen to anyone. Just so happened to me. Point is EVE is about the good, the bad and the ugly. The good being teamwork, profits and sportsmanship, the bad being scamming, pirating, thieving, and the ugly being suicide gankers, griefing and podding. Its all part of the same multispectrum aspect of EVE.
So before you cry foul, think for a second - if I did this would I be crying foul? The answer is most definitely NO.
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Athus
Dark Malice Inc
Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2007.12.10 15:44:00 -
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Uhm,
Can I point out that while I personally don't like getting ganked at a empire gate I NEVER LEAVE THE SHIP ALONE. your just asking for a uberwtfbbqpwn gank doing that. I have suggestions:
1) don't fly AFK (DUUUUUH)
2) WOW warp to 0 is kewl
3) quit EvE.
I have carried 4 and 500 mil piles of goods in a ity and even I know not to leave the thing alone in space to travel AP 15 KM to a gate. can't get ganked if your warping to 0.
LOL I think you learned a lesson. EvE is meant to be as realistic as possible in some regards.. get used to it.
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Kolmogorow
Freedom Resources
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Posted - 2007.12.10 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Edelhonk
...did you ever fly 25 or more (even with warp to 0 it takes over 45 min to do a run of 25 jumps) jumps, its boring like hell and i play this game to have fun, not to be bored.
THAT is by far the most sophisticated statement about the issue! And the only solution not to be bored flying 25 jumps through high sec is to fly afk and to do something other in the meantime.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.12.11 00:20:00 -
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Originally by: Kolmogorow
Originally by: Edelhonk
...did you ever fly 25 or more (even with warp to 0 it takes over 45 min to do a run of 25 jumps) jumps, its boring like hell and i play this game to have fun, not to be bored.
THAT is by far the most sophisticated statement about the issue! And the only solution not to be bored flying 25 jumps through high sec is to fly afk and to do something other in the meantime.
hey guys i find it boring that i dont ever have enough isk lets make your ships instantly teleport anywhere and everything is free
Trashed sig, Shark was here |
OOOSOOO
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.12.11 00:33:00 -
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*hiccup* |
Semkhet
KR0M
The Red Skull
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Posted - 2007.12.11 00:55:00 -
[175]
Fascinating. Can't believe that this thread reached 174 posts with half the replies displaying a complete inability to grasp the spirit of the OP...
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.12.11 00:59:00 -
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Originally by: Semkhet
Fascinating. Can't believe that this thread reached 174 posts with half the replies displaying a complete inability to grasp the spirit of the OP...
you think hes joking? how do you know some newb dont start thinking hes serious?
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abbagabba
Gallente
Monster Raving Loonies
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Posted - 2007.12.11 01:24:00 -
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Edited by: abbagabba on 11/12/2007 01:24:23
Originally by: Semkhet
Fascinating. Can't believe that this thread reached 174 posts with half the replies displaying a complete inability to grasp the spirit of the OP...
I keep thinking it's the other, almost identical post that was deadly serious. You can't expect people to read page 1 before they reply, can you? 
But I agree with the op, everyone has the right to a bit of afk smoking.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2007.12.11 01:27:00 -
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Originally by: abbagabba
Edited by: abbagabba on 11/12/2007 01:24:23
Originally by: Semkhet
Fascinating. Can't believe that this thread reached 174 posts with half the replies displaying a complete inability to grasp the spirit of the OP...
I keep thinking it's the other, almost identical post that was deadly serious. You can't expect people to read page 1 before they reply, can you?
But I agree with the op, everyone has the right to a bit of afk smoking.
You have the right to go afk whenever you want to, but don't come whining here when you do and something bad happens 
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
thats a boot.ini a file used by windows
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umop 3pisdn
Minmatar
Fnck the blob.
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Posted - 2007.12.11 01:35:00 -
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Originally by: OOOSOOO
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Anacrit Mc'Sinister
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Posted - 2007.12.11 01:53:00 -
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Edited by: Anacrit Mc''Sinister on 11/12/2007 01:55:34
Quote:
Option 3:
The INVULNERABILITY BUTTON
i love that one!!! i want tha button too!!
infact: dear CCP. forget all my amarr/cloaking/explotation/ewar rants.. this xmass i want INVULNERABILITY BUTTON!!
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