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Buyerr	Posted - 2007.12.04 09:21:00 - [1] I am so sick and tired of the so called pvp. Ganked 10V1 is NOT PVP. Killing a defenceless ship is NOT pvp! It have around the same pvp element as me jumping some one from behind with a baseball bat and celling it a ôfightö afterwards. You gotta change the lame and extremely stupid way gates and pvp works. Or you will end up with nothing but gankers! I am so sick and tired of getting ganked and I am so sick and tired of having to gank. There is freaking more pvp and tactic in freaking WORLD OF WARCRAFT. How big do you think that game would be if lvl 70 could stand around killing lvl 5Æs all day?! (which is kind of the same odds when ganking some one). Get your head out of you buttholes and do some work on the pvp section of the game so pvp will Actually become pvp and not just a freaking gang-*****of some oneà Sigh FFS.. canÆt be that freaking hard..
Mark Lucius The Vinlanders SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.04 09:24:00 - [2] [ ]Use scouts. [ ]Don't fly alone. [ ]Get your friends. [x]Waaah waaah. --- Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
NTRabbit Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club Enelaise	Posted - 2007.12.04 09:24:00 - [3] Originally by: Buyerr I am so sick and tired of the so called pvp. Ganked 10V1 is NOT PVP. Killing a defenceless ship is NOT pvp! It have around the same pvp element as me jumping some one from behind with a baseball bat and celling it a ôfightö afterwards. Why not? It's the safest way, isn't it? ------
Zaqar	Posted - 2007.12.04 09:27:00 - [4]
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2007.12.04 09:27:00 - [5] Im going to try to be reasonable toward you. Most likely I will be the only one who aint going to ask for your stuff and point you toward WoW.. A special thing about EVE is the non-consentual PvP. You are free to do whatever you want to, even in Highsec, just as long you can take the beating by concord and loss of sec status. Most players dont want this to change. It is after all what makes eve special! I reccomend joining a empire corp or staying in a NPC corp. Many consider the last thing lame, but its a valid option, and its your choice. Its up to you in other words. ' The price to stay safe is less options. Low sec and deep space will not really be available if you want to avoid PvP. There are however lots of things to do in Empire. Mining and missioning. And you can have just as much fun as they who are in dee space, without having to worry too much about podding. Just beware to not beg to be podded by flying very valuable stuffs around unprotected. Empire is safer - not safe! Last thing ill help you with is to donate a flame suit for you. You WILL need it! Good luck! Sarah McTeef: You all should really try and stay on topic. Which when I last checked, was my grocery list
Karlemgne The Black Fleet The Cosa Nostra	Posted - 2007.12.04 09:31:00 - [6] Can I have your stuff? There are plenty of optional PvP games out there, bud. Try WoW.
IntegralHellsing Gallente CRESCENT Inc.	Posted - 2007.12.04 09:31:00 - [7] get a gang of 10 and engage another gang of 10 then. simple. --------------------------------------
Viliny principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.12.04 09:33:00 - [8] in world of warcraft you CAN grief people at levels 10(?), 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 65. And all those levels are like killing a level 10. Heres the difference with eve
Rjaiajik Kajvoril	Posted - 2007.12.04 09:33:00 - [9] What the hell do you think Trinity is you dumb ****? Trinity is specifically adding the Black Ops Battleship and Jump Freighters so people don't have to go through the damn gates. It'll mean people will need to rethink pirating.
Ares Lightfeather Gallente	Posted - 2007.12.04 09:38:00 - [10] Originally by: Rjaiajik Kajvoril What the hell do you think Trinity is you dumb ****? Trinity is specifically adding the Black Ops Battleship and Jump Freighters so people don't have to go through the damn gates. It'll mean people will need to rethink pirating. Don't say it !!! The usual carebear, errr ganker pirate forum troll still didn't understand that it's possible to bypass any gatecamp now. Don't tell them, they might start to whine about it ! -- random eve-related content --

Kurogauna	Posted - 2007.12.04 09:39:00 - [11] Do you want sportive pvp ? Play First person shooters or guild wars. Eve pvp is not sportlike, it is warlike. I am sorry you have been ambushed. - Real men tank hull.
N1fty Amarr Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2007.12.04 09:40:00 - [12] Aaaaaand (say it with me guys) go back to WoW. Darwinism wins again! á ============================================
Yakia TovilToba Halliburton Inc.	Posted - 2007.12.04 09:40:00 - [13] Why can't we all just be friends and not fight each other
N1fty Amarr Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2007.12.04 09:41:00 - [14] Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Why can't we all just be friends and not fight each other Thats what the dev's were trying to tell us at fanfest á ============================================
Sathynos Caldari Moronic Confluence	Posted - 2007.12.04 09:44:00 - [15] I'm sorry you got ganked again. Um, actually I'm not. Thank you for reminding, I didn't gank anyone this week yet. -- "Say yes to pron on Concord billboards" campaing. Eve mercenaries portal: http://www.eve-mercs.com
Kazuma Saruwatari	Posted - 2007.12.04 09:45:00 - [16] Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Why can't we all just be friends and not fight each other We really need Oveur saying this sound-clipped to the forums. - Odd Pod Out, a blog of EVE Online
Maximillian Power Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2007.12.04 09:46:00 - [17] Originally by: Karlemgne Can I have your stuff? There are plenty of optional PvP games out there, bud. Yes - but not with internet spaceships :)
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova	Posted - 2007.12.04 10:11:00 - [18] I take your attention to these sigs made by Crumplecorm: and also in case you're quitting --- planetary interaction idea!
Chloey Rans	Posted - 2007.12.04 10:20:00 - [19] EvE is this, Eve is that. Wonder where you all know this from? The way Eve is played is just according to a set of rules the Devs give us. And the Devs didn't give us weapons of mass destruction. If there would be a nuclear torpedo in EvE, blobs at gates would not exist. In 0.0 there are just a lot of anarchist running around who like to pawn others. no roleplay.
Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2007.12.04 10:37:00 - [20] Originally by: Buyerr I am so sick and tired of the so called pvp. Ganked 10V1 is NOT PVP. Killing a defenceless ship is NOT pvp! It have around the same pvp element as me jumping some one from behind with a baseball bat and celling it a ôfightö afterwards. You gotta change the lame and extremely stupid way gates and pvp works. Or you will end up with nothing but gankers! I am so sick and tired of getting ganked and I am so sick and tired of having to gank. There is freaking more pvp and tactic in freaking WORLD OF WARCRAFT. How big do you think that game would be if lvl 70 could stand around killing lvl 5Æs all day?! (which is kind of the same odds when ganking some one). Get your head out of you buttholes and do some work on the pvp section of the game so pvp will Actually become pvp and not just a freaking gang-***of some oneà Sigh FFS.. canÆt be that freaking hard.. Could I have had your stuff if you hadn't lost it? -- (Battle hardened industrialist) [Brackley, UK] My budgie can say "ploppy bottom". You have been warned.**

XrayZ Euphoria Foundation	Posted - 2007.12.04 10:40:00 - [21] Originally by: Grimpak this... can i have it? --------------------------------------
Selene Arlath	Posted - 2007.12.04 10:45:00 - [22] Eve is split up in high sec and low sec for a reason. High-sec is safe, but the rewards are less. Low-sec/0.0 is not safe, but the rewards are greater. All MMO's are about risk vs reward. Eve is no different. You want that high priced ore to refine into profitable space ship and module production? You either a) take the risk by going to low sec, and reap the reward, or you b) buy it in high sec, at higher cost, for less reward. Your choice. There is no secret that if you go to low-sec, there is a very distinct possibility that someone might ransom you, blow up your ship, steal your modules or your ore and puncture your pod. You get a warning before you jump to low-sec. You, and noone else, clicks on OK to jump instead of cancel when you get that warning, and thus YOU accept the risk that your ship, cargo and pod might get blown up. If you want to be safe(er) in low-sec, hire some escorts, go with some corp members, scout out the systems first in a shuttle before you bring in the cargoship or mining barge. True, PvP can sometimes be ganking... but 10v1 ? That sounds to me like someone is trying to be a greedy soloist, instead of playing the game, as most MMO's are meant to be played, together with other people. Do you go into some high-end raiding instance alone in World of Warcraft? Yes the rewards are awesome, but you know you'll get smothered. So you bring a group, or even a raid. How does that relate to Eve? Low-sec is your "raid place" if you want to mine or rat. You go alone, the chance of getting pummeled is pretty high... so guess what? You bring a group (gang) or a raid (mining op). Getting killed while flying around solo is never going to stop. Accept it and move on, noone is to blame but yourself. If you can't deal with the game the way the dev's designed it, and by following the rules that the game has lined out, well... then this isn't the game for you. I don't keep playing an FPS game if I hate the fact that everyone uses guns instead of swords like I'm used to in an MMO
Sinder Ohm Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.12.04 10:58:00 - [23] Edited by: Sinder Ohm on 04/12/2007 10:58:23 Ganking people like you makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside
Cpt Branko The Bloody Red	Posted - 2007.12.04 11:01:00 - [24] Originally by: Buyerr I am so sick and tired of the so called pvp. Ganked 10V1 is NOT PVP. Killing a defenceless ship is NOT pvp! It have around the same pvp element as me jumping some one from behind with a baseball bat and celling it a ôfightö afterwards. You gotta change the lame and extremely stupid way gates and pvp works. Or you will end up with nothing but gankers! I am so sick and tired of getting ganked and I am so sick and tired of having to gank. There is freaking more pvp and tactic in freaking WORLD OF WARCRAFT. How big do you think that game would be if lvl 70 could stand around killing lvl 5Æs all day?! (which is kind of the same odds when ganking some one). Get your head out of you buttholes and do some work on the pvp section of the game so pvp will Actually become pvp and not just a freaking gang-*****of some oneà Sigh FFS.. canÆt be that freaking hard.. All you do is whine. Whine about being blobbed, whine about nano-ships, whine, in fact, about everything. Killing a defenceless ships is piracy. It makes money. In the words of a pirate in Tama, after being asked about using a number of BS to gank passing haulers: "Well, MY pos is always fueled." Gates work the way they work: they're the only way to actually kill people who are just passing through, and unless you're utterly incompetent, you can evade / pass through gatecamps relatively easily. The last time I was caught at a gate was by Veto about a month and something ago, and it only happened because they know their business and I was in a BC (and they had an interceptor, which you can use against pirates). WoW you speak of, a level 70 can gank about 500 level 5s all day long, in fact, so your perspective is completely flawed. You don't have to gank or be ganked. You can fly small ships solo or in small groups and pick your fights and have a lot of fun, profit and the only real requirement is intelligence what and when to strike. The fact you are lousy at PvP (and choosing your fights and blob evasion is a essential part of PvP) doesn't make PvP suck. It makes you suck ;) Rifters!
The Snowman Gallente Four Rings Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.04 11:04:00 - [25] The truth is, the only reason why your ganked is probably because that large gang have formed together to go have fun, if they dont come across a worthy advesry then picking off the juicy noobs goes some way to having a bit of a laugh.. If you cant beat em, join em!
Korad Konstentyn The Genyosha Society PURGE.	Posted - 2007.12.04 11:05:00 - [26] Eve is not a Dojo Eve is not a tournament Eve is Warfare
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.12.04 11:12:00 - [27] The EvE roleplayers society would like to take this chance to thank the OP for his immersive and convincing characterisation of a victim. We take our hats off to you, and your ability to so completely master that role; you have certainly raised the bar as to what is to be expected from others who take on that part. Well done sir, well done. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Buyerr	Posted - 2007.12.04 11:13:00 - [28] Edited by: Buyerr on 04/12/2007 11:13:05 Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Im going to try to be reasonable toward you. Most likely I will be the only one who aint going to ask for your stuff and point you toward WoW.. A special thing about EVE is the non-consentual PvP. You are free to do whatever you want to, even in Highsec, just as long you can take the beating by concord and loss of sec status. Most players dont want this to change. It is after all what makes eve special! I reccomend joining a empire corp or staying in a NPC corp. Many consider the last thing lame, but its a valid option, and its your choice. Its up to you in other words. ' The price to stay safe is less options. Low sec and deep space will not really be available if you want to avoid PvP. There are however lots of things to do in Empire. Mining and missioning. And you can have just as much fun as they who are in dee space, without having to worry too much about podding. Just beware to not beg to be podded by flying very valuable stuffs around unprotected. Empire is safer - not safe! Last thing ill help you with is to donate a flame suit for you. You WILL need it! Good luck! i am in a 0.0 alliance ;) so it is not the problem and i don't care about losing isk and ships, and i don't care about having to use scout or if you can highsec gank, and low sec piratecy. i think it is all a good thing, what i think i REALLY bad is the LACK of any pvp, which is the reason i am writing this, unless you want to lose ship upon ship without gaining anything then you will have to do the gank, scout use 10 hours for each succesfull pvp hit. what i am talking about is to fix the fact that 99% (random high number) of the pvp you will see will be really unfair fights, that have nothing really to do with pvp and more to do with a gang-raping of some others... so i know all about how you do successful pvp, but the fact is still that the pvp in eve as it is now is one big ganking and in between hours upon hours of waiting, it have more to do with who have the most patients and can sit there looking at the screen for hours upon hours without doing anything but waiting, then it is about who have the best skills or ships for that matter ^^. hehe i don't need a flame suit but thank you very much ^^
Nianda SeCann	Posted - 2007.12.04 11:17:00 - [29] Originally by: Mark Lucius [ ]Use scouts. [ ]Don't fly alone. [ ]Get your friends. [x]Waaah waaah. wow 10 words and no spelling mistakes, must be a 1st for your level of intellect. Let me guess you'll only fly in a 10 man gang, so PvP againest 1 is OK for YOU? Nevermind, but seriously the age level for EVE is supposed to be higher than yer normal arcade junkie and yet the most constructive answer you can come up with this!! The OP has a point, don't lower yerself to the bottom of the pond to reply, use that gray matter between yer ears
Sorted Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.12.04 11:17:00 - [30] PVP means player vs player. So yes, 10 players vs 1 is PVP. No where did it say PVP had to be fair. If you wanted the same skills, in the same ships played by equaly skilled pilots it would come down to chance wouldnt it. Then it would be "waaaa waaaaa I may as well just flip a coin" Somewere, wether its 10 v 1 or 45m SP pilot vs 5 m SP pilot, or BS vs frig etc its gonna get unfair. Thats eve, deal with it. Lifes unfair, get some skills and some mates and watch local/yourback/thenextlocal and you'll fix your "I just got Ganked/i got away/I Won ratio. Pick your fights.



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