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Rukkal
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Posted - 2007.12.07 18:57:00 -
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Dear OP,
No.
Sometimes unpleasant things happen to people. A rock *****s your car's window, you get stung by a bee, a man accidentaly trips you and sprains your ankle.
Expecting to be compensated for lifes little injuries is one of the worst aspects of today's generation.
Accept that you suffered an inconvience, even a financial one, and go have a drink with your friends and laugh about it.
I was effected by the boot.ini and spent a nervous hour working to get it replaced.
Did it suck? Yeah.
Am I demanding to be paid for my stress. Nope.
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Mickey Knox
Caldari
Interstellar eXodus
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.12.07 19:11:00 -
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there is two key points here, no more really:
1.) They should have NEVER used a file name of a crucial windows system file in their program, this is bad practice and should have never been allowed through QA
2.) even worse, this problem already surfaced during sissy deployment and should have been fixe then AT THE LATEST, but it still made it to release http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=648131&page=1#8
it doesnt matter how long it takes a geek to fix it, how easy it is to fix etc. it is a serious defect that they caused NOT with as simple game play bug that we always have or some weird circumstance, this was gross negligence on a big scale whihh could have been avoided all together with a little bit of care and brain usage. And that is the reason they should compensate us, not because its yet another bug (dont even get me started on towers and bridges, which ****es me off almost as much but thats just eve business as usual), but because it was negligent.
month of playtime seems about right
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Sister Libertina
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Posted - 2007.12.07 19:21:00 -
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I agree with the poster just up there. This is the compensation culture gone mad. Maybe i'm just getting old, but it seems you can't do anything now without the risk of being sued for compensation. Sure CCP messed up, but asking for compensation is a bit strong. Companies and local councils all over the UK have made lots petty rules to stop them getting caught out by the compensation culture. In the future CCP could sa***uard themselves against demands for compensation by simply not providing anymore updates. Is that what you want?
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Joensen
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Posted - 2007.12.07 19:32:00 -
[364]
 Originally by: Mickey Knox
month of playtime seems about right
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Draconius Krynar
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2007.12.07 19:37:00 -
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Never before in the history of humanity has so many whiners complained about something so trivial..
People make mistakes
Microsoft made the mistake of allowing key system files to be in the root and be modified
CCP made a typo in their patch which modified said file
Now lets look at the whingers' mistakes..
The installed a game on a company laptop which caused a serious problem to said laptop.. who's to blame there? NOT CCP
They installed a game on the same partition as their system files... who's to blame there? NOT CCP
They don't have an XP disk to restore from.. who's to blame there? NOT CCP
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Tressin Khiyne
Minmatar
Interstellar Vacation Center
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Posted - 2007.12.07 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: Draconius Krynar
Now lets look at the whingers' mistakes..
The installed a game on a company laptop which caused a serious problem to said laptop.. who's to blame there? NOT CCP
They installed a game on the same partition as their system files... who's to blame there? NOT CCP
They don't have an XP disk to restore from.. who's to blame there? NOT CCP
OI!
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Sister Libertina
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Posted - 2007.12.07 19:42:00 -
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Edited by: Sister Libertina on 07/12/2007 19:45:57
Edited by: Sister Libertina on 07/12/2007 19:42:55
Originally by: Draconius Krynar
Never before in the history of humanity has so many whiners complained about something so trivial..
People make mistakes
Microsoft made the mistake of allowing key system files to be in the root and be modified
CCP made a typo in their patch which modified said file
Now lets look at the whingers' mistakes..
The installed a game on a company laptop which caused a serious problem to said laptop.. who's to blame there? NOT CCP
They installed a game on the same partition as their system files... who's to blame there? NOT CCP
They don't have an XP disk to restore from.. who's to blame there? NOT CCP
Well, whilst I disagree with all the compensation malarky I also have to disagree about who is to blame.
Sure there are risks downloading files, but it was CCP's update that removed the boot.ini file, not the user doing it intentionally. If you took your car to be serviced and the mechanic accidently removed the spark pulgs would it be your fault for taking it to be serviced? Of course not.
However, people are people and mistakes happen. Lets just get on with enjoying the game.
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Horatio Nately
Caldari
808 Enterprises
The Red Skull
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Posted - 2007.12.07 19:54:00 -
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Edited by: Horatio Nately on 07/12/2007 19:56:30
meh, It's a quick fix in some cases but you also have to consider that quite a few 'gamers' dont even know how their system works.
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Kazuma Saruwatari
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Posted - 2007.12.07 19:58:00 -
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Originally by: Sister Libertina
...CCP's update that removed the boot.ini file, not the user doing it intentionally. If you took your car to be serviced and the mechanic accidently removed the spark pulgs would it be your fault for taking it to be serviced? Of course not.
The most perfect analogy regarding the boot.ini issue I've seen.
/thread with quoted up above. Sister Libertina wins forums for today.
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Mickey Knox
Caldari
Interstellar eXodus
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.12.07 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: Draconius Krynar
Never before in the history of humanity has so many whiners complained about something so trivial..
People make mistakes
Microsoft made the mistake of allowing key system files to be in the root and be modified
CCP made a typo in their patch which modified said file
Now lets look at the whingers' mistakes..
The installed a game on a company laptop which caused a serious problem to said laptop.. who's to blame there? NOT CCP
They installed a game on the same partition as their system files... who's to blame there? NOT CCP
They don't have an XP disk to restore from.. who's to blame there? NOT CCP
you can post the same **** over and over, there is many legit ways to setup your computer, no more right or wrong, personal preference, also nobodys business where i install a product i buy and use to the product specifications that came with it. I can expect for a PRODUCT I BUY AND PAY FOR that is manufactured to the best of the knowledge of the producing party to not be SO OBVIOUSLY FAULTY. If the best of ccps knowledge is to use a windows system file name for their program files, then good night we are all doomed. you can not fault ppl for having their system setup in a way that allows for ccp to break it, its ccps negligence no matter how you look at it. your argument equates to somebody buying a desk lamp for example, putting it on a desk, the lamp explodes and sets the papers on the desk on fire and the manufacturer arguing that you shouldn't have put it on a desk with papers on it idiot.
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Fitz Bonham
La Inquisicion
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Posted - 2007.12.07 20:12:00 -
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Edited by: Fitz Bonham on 07/12/2007 20:13:46
In my opinion ccp should give a few months of free game time to those who were affected by that problem, i did not lost nothing just becouse i killed my OS 10 hours before the problem and everything was saved in an auxiliary HDD so i was able to copy a boot.ini before restarting but i know at least 2 or 3 people who were not able to recover his boot.ini using windows xp cd and they have lost lots of data.
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aelawan
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Posted - 2007.12.07 20:18:00 -
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it's obvious ccp's legal advisers are telling them not to comment publicly (except of course ccp employees making forum alts to be ccp fanboi's to try to turn the tide of public criticism and alienating the subscriber base into thinking it was their own fault - rediculous).
since they wont comment on a considerable portion of their subscriber base wanting reparations/restitution, I think the only route to go here is to make it more public outside of the community forums.
I am sure almost any decent sized enterprising law firm would drool at the opportunity/possibility of a long drawn out class-action lawsuit.
I think that is what is needed here sicne ccp refuses to comment or make it up to us.
Basically all they (and their renamed forum alt'ed employees) have said was 'suck it up, we arent liable for anything .. its your own fault for not being a computer professional.
Then when it hits all the gamers forums and communities, people will be closing their referrer accounts, stripping the eve ads for new players and free trials, and be giving eve a bad rap (rightfully so) and generally negative advertising.
After all, who would want to risk installing the game and ruining their operating system ...
who would want to trust a company who made a huge neglectful mistake that ruined countless operating system installs and acted inappropriately after it ?
also account cancellations would send a huge message.
there are plenty of other games.
Who wants all that to happen ?
certainly not me, but what other choices does a subscriber base have when a comany screws up, then blames the subscriber base for it, and offers nothing to make it up to them ?
I guess we are seeing ccp's true colors.
it's obvious they dont care about us at all.
hopefully it wont take those extremes i mentioned for them to act right.
You see, a company is only as good as their reaction to adversity.
I am not seeing anything good from ccp.
As business owners, my husband and I have done alot of things we didnt legally have to do to keep our reputation and customers happy.
It's called doing good business and acting appropriately to your customers.
It isnt going to affect ccp by making reparations.restitution in the form of gametime.
In fact, I feel it would solidify their reputation as a good company who cares about their users and are a stand up company if they do so.
AS i stated in another thread, I ahve no problem with people making mistakes. After all we are humans.
... but, I feel they should make up for them or pay for said mistakes.
Lastly, I feel the employee responsible should be severely disciplined for such a novice mistake.
Are the programmers at ccp professional or bargain basement wannabes without proper schooling and experience with something that can effect tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of peoples computer systems ?
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Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.12.07 20:23:00 -
[373]
YOU'LL GET NOTHING AND LIKE IT!!!!!
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Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.07 20:24:00 -
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Anyone that would blame the end user for this huge snafu should have their head examined...
If you are going to develop a game and use the same name for a critical system ini file, you had damn better well verify the installation folder.
I'm willing to bet CCP feels very bad about this and yes, some form of compensation should be forthcoming, if nothing more then free game play time.
This latest snafu will make anyone leery of installing patches from CCP...
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Titen
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Posted - 2007.12.07 20:31:00 -
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Maybe this has already been mentioned.. dunno.. but I'm gonna say it anyway.
CCP is like any other business, they reserve the right to refuse service to anyone they choose - for any reason they choose.
If yer not getting my drift here.. it goes like this:
1. Complain you want a free month for your boot.ini woes
2. CCP Gives you the free month, then cancels your account cuz they dont want whiney folks messing in their pocketbooks
3. Go play Halo on XBox from now on
If you installed this GAME on a machine that makes you money (the only viable reason to report some kind of 'loss' in my opinion) then you're a doofus who doesn't deserve to work from home.
If it wasn't your home system and you installed it at work - head to the unemployment line for wasting company time.
If it was your only computer, and you work from home on it, open up the help wanted ads and go find some new employment because your current job choice isn't working.
Just my 2.0038839 cents worth.
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aelawan
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Posted - 2007.12.07 20:32:00 -
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indirect consequences ?
more like DIRECT consequences.
this is ccp's logo .. you tell me whats wrong with this picture:
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Krows
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Posted - 2007.12.07 20:33:00 -
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So aelawan, your best solution to the problem is to make this public so that large legal firms will make every attempt to sue CCP for this? You want to destroy CCP? Honestly now, I have the feeling the CCP guys out there are working there asses off to ensure that a hot fix comes out soon that is going to fix the blatant majority of other issues that have just cropped up (POS problems, anyone?).
Do I think Trinity was a little rushed? Yes, I do.
Do I think CCP messed up pretty badly with the boot.ini issue? Of course.
But under no circumstances should you condemn them for all time because of this mistake, they are actively trying to fix the problem and they will respond in due course.
I will say that the only compensation I would think should be appropriate would be a week of play time for all accounts, considering the tumult of trouble the game is going through right now.
Personally though, if anyone installed EVE on their work computer (IE at the office, not on their own machine) I hope you don't lose your jobs over this, but just know you should be doing work on the damn thing instead of playing EVE. I don't get to play video games during lecture or when I'm at work, get on the bandwagon.
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aelawan
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Posted - 2007.12.07 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: Krows
So aelawan, your best solution to the problem is to make this public so that large legal firms will make every attempt to sue CCP for this? You want to destroy CCP? Honestly now, I have the feeling the CCP guys out there are working there asses off to ensure that a hot fix comes out soon that is going to fix the blatant majority of other issues that have just cropped up (POS problems, anyone?).
Do I think Trinity was a little rushed? Yes, I do.
Do I think CCP messed up pretty badly with the boot.ini issue? Of course.
But under no circumstances should you condemn them for all time because of this mistake, they are actively trying to fix the problem and they will respond in due course.
I will say that the only compensation I would think should be appropriate would be a week of play time for all accounts, considering the tumult of trouble the game is going through right now.
Personally though, if anyone installed EVE on their work computer (IE at the office, not on their own machine) I hope you don't lose your jobs over this, but just know you should be doing work on the damn thing instead of playing EVE. I don't get to play video games during lecture or when I'm at work, get on the bandwagon.
i want ccp to start acting right, and even if they dont care about us, I want them to make us THINK they DO care.
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Mickey Knox
Caldari
Interstellar eXodus
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.12.07 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: aelawan
blah blah
Point me to where CCP blames the subscriber base. Tell me how CCP's action, and not indirect consequences, caused any real damage or cost a lot of time. Lead me to the cave you were living in that isolated you from the figurative arm-waving and shouting CCP engaged in to try to stop it affecting any more people. Tell me one good consequence of replacing someone who made a 'novice mistake' with an actual novice. Help me understand how the one mistake is their 'true colors' and the usual good level of support is all just a lie. Give me your stuff.
I challenge you the other way around, give me one good example of good customer service you received from ccp.
hmmm, high number of nooblinger alts in this thread, all on ccp's side very weird
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Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.12.07 20:37:00 -
[380]
Originally by: aelawan
Originally by: Krows
So aelawan, your best solution to the problem is to make this public so that large legal firms will make every attempt to sue CCP for this? You want to destroy CCP? Honestly now, I have the feeling the CCP guys out there are working there asses off to ensure that a hot fix comes out soon that is going to fix the blatant majority of other issues that have just cropped up (POS problems, anyone?).
Do I think Trinity was a little rushed? Yes, I do.
Do I think CCP messed up pretty badly with the boot.ini issue? Of course.
But under no circumstances should you condemn them for all time because of this mistake, they are actively trying to fix the problem and they will respond in due course.
I will say that the only compensation I would think should be appropriate would be a week of play time for all accounts, considering the tumult of trouble the game is going through right now.
Personally though, if anyone installed EVE on their work computer (IE at the office, not on their own machine) I hope you don't lose your jobs over this, but just know you should be doing work on the damn thing instead of playing EVE. I don't get to play video games during lecture or when I'm at work, get on the bandwagon.
i want ccp to start acting right, and even if they dont care about us, I want them to make us THINK they DO care.
I used to have a guy working for me that had an attitude like yours. He decided to quit and it made me happy.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.12.07 20:43:00 -
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Originally by: Mickey Knox
Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: aelawan
blah blah
Point me to where CCP blames the subscriber base. Tell me how CCP's action, and not indirect consequences, caused any real damage or cost a lot of time. Lead me to the cave you were living in that isolated you from the figurative arm-waving and shouting CCP engaged in to try to stop it affecting any more people. Tell me one good consequence of replacing someone who made a 'novice mistake' with an actual novice. Help me understand how the one mistake is their 'true colors' and the usual good level of support is all just a lie. Give me your stuff.
I challenge you the other way around, give me one good example of good customer service you received from ccp.
hmmm, high number of nooblinger alts in this thread, all on ccp's side very weird
I've never had a problem with EVE. I pay subscreepshun, I receev game. That's quite an achievement considering EVE is one gigantic server cluster.
WTF is a nooblinger? A noob that fires bling out of its eyes?
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Pun Ani
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Posted - 2007.12.07 20:43:00 -
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Edited by: Pun Ani on 07/12/2007 20:48:10
Originally by: antientity
Since i haven't seen anyone blame Microsoft yet, i will do my civil duty.
More like inane, childish doody.
Ignorance has caused a lot of people problems with thier computers, but let's start with this:
Item #1: If you don't know what you're talking about consider shutting up.
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1. What kind of operating system allows such critical files to be easily deleted or tampered with?
Boot.ini is properly marked as system, hidden but is not protected by WFP (windows file protection) because it is user configurable. Refer to Item #1.
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2. What kind of operating system puts critical files in the root folder?
Folder? Critical files in root? Are you sure you know what you're talking about?
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3. There should at least be something to apply the settings in boot.ini before windows attempts it?
Check english. Unable to decypher.
Now, I'll agree boot.ini probably needs more protection, but the rules are pretty f'ing simple here. How often do you or other software you install break hidden, system attribute rules and nuke something like boot.ini ? Refer to Item #1. The answer is simple, CCP screwed the pooch.
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1. Don't use Microsoft development software or BITS...
...if you don't know what the hell you're doing.
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2. Don't look at environment variables windows supplies...
...if you don't know what the hell you're doing.
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3. MSSQL really isn't that good.
... where is this even relevant? Are you saying CCP is using MSSQL? Put down the ***** pipe. Besides, MSSQL is on par with Oracle, even Oracle DBA's respect it. I suppose you'll say something like PostGRE is better than MSSQL and make yourself look like an even bigger tool.
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4. Don't use reserved file names that aren't really reserved cause microsoft doesn't make databases.
... Again, showing that you really don't know what you're talking about. databases? lol. Are you like 15?
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5. Change your exefile.exe to something other then exefile.exe however funny it may be to keep it that way.
... oookay. Stunning wisdom from the peanut gallery. Stay in school, son.
Congratulations, you've failed.
p.s. Since everyone is stomping their feet and pouting, I think CCP should buy me a car and a trip to Vegas. You have my email address. Hurry back.
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aelawan
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Posted - 2007.12.07 20:43:00 -
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Edited by: aelawan on 07/12/2007 20:47:11
it's widely known that cowards use new forum/ingame alts to hide their true identity so they dont have to be put to task for their commentaryor actions on their main identity, and all of them are for ccp on this issue ...
it isnt a far stretch to guess WHY they are for ccp.
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Price Watcher
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Posted - 2007.12.07 20:58:00 -
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CCP could stop a lot of this talk by apologizing.
Right at this moment the damage to their reputation is still small. Sooner or later the facts of this situation will get out.
I imagine the blogs will have nice headlines.
"Eve-Online 'upgrade' Acts Like Virus"
"Eve-Online Disables Users' Computers, CCP Silent"
"Untrustworthy 'Upgrade' by Eve-Online"
"'Not Our Problem' Says Eve-Online. Computers Wrecked - Customers Stiffed."
Wonderful publicity, no? It will happen in spite of all fanbois and right soon.
CCP needs to get out in front of this thing by admitting the mistake and making amends loudly and publicly. This would be the best and smartest thing they could do.
Or they could just take an epic hit to their reputation in the gaming community.
Their choice.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.12.07 21:01:00 -
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can you compensate yourself and unsubcribe so we dont have to hear your stupid whines? go ask compensation from microsoft for windows not working correctly and let me know if you even get a reply 
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Dulsung
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Posted - 2007.12.07 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: Price Watcher
CCP needs to get out in front of this thing by admitting the mistake and making amends loudly and publicly. This would be the best and smartest thing they could do.
Did you not get the same email I got?
Originally by: email from yesterday
Dear customer
Some users may have been inadvertently affected by an error in the install scripts for the Premium Graphics Upgrade process for the new Trinity Expansion.
... snip snip ...
For those of you who need further assistance please file a petition in the boot.ini technical category from our website or by sending an email to [email protected] or call one of the temporary special call-in help lines that we have set up:
US (Atlanta): + 404 292 1819 Ext 241 - Open 1400-2200 EDT
US (Atlanta): Toll free number available soon, will be announced on www.eve-online.com
German/English language: +49 211 505 7720 (Local) Open 0600-1500 GMT
French language +49 211 505 7 721 (Local) Open 0600-1500 GMT
Russian language +49 211 505 7 722 (Local) Open 0600-1500 GMT
Iceland toll free number is being set up, will be announced on www.eve-online.com
Please note that these special help lines can only assist with this particular issue.
We apologize for any inconvenience caused by this issue. All expansions and patches currently on our website are free of this error and safe to download and install.
Sincerely,
CCP
Sure looks to me like CCP has admitted to the mistake, is making amends loudly and publicly (see the front page, forums, news, emails, in game warnings, MOTD warnings, even setting up live phone support) and has apologized for it.
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Tressin Khiyne
Minmatar
Interstellar Vacation Center
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Posted - 2007.12.07 21:10:00 -
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I find it hilarious that everyone wants free game time. Let's try to get perspective on this request:
Requesting game time as compensation means you MUST still want to play the game, which means you still trust CCP to provide you with quality product, and the issue, however major, was not tragic enough to dissolve your interest in their product.
In the end, your request for more game time is a confession that CCP has held up to their end of the bargain in supplying a desirable product.
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Price Watcher
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Posted - 2007.12.07 21:10:00 -
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Nope, I honestly got no email about this. And me with more than one account. 
'Making amends' is more than publishing on these forums, where not even all of the current subscribers go. It involves compensation for damages.
I will not need compensation myself as I was not hit, but there are plenty who need and deserve to have their repair bill paid at the very least.
Originally by: Dulsung
Originally by: Price Watcher
CCP needs to get out in front of this thing by admitting the mistake and making amends loudly and publicly. This would be the best and smartest thing they could do.
Did you not get the same email I got?
Originally by: email from yesterday
Dear customer
Some users may have been inadvertently affected by an error in the install scripts for the Premium Graphics Upgrade process for the new Trinity Expansion.
... snip snip ...
For those of you who need further assistance please file a petition in the boot.ini technical category from our website or by sending an email to [email protected] or call one of the temporary special call-in help lines that we have set up:
US (Atlanta): + 404 292 1819 Ext 241 - Open 1400-2200 EDT
US (Atlanta): Toll free number available soon, will be announced on www.eve-online.com
German/English language: +49 211 505 7720 (Local) Open 0600-1500 GMT
French language +49 211 505 7 721 (Local) Open 0600-1500 GMT
Russian language +49 211 505 7 722 (Local) Open 0600-1500 GMT
Iceland toll free number is being set up, will be announced on www.eve-online.com
Please note that these special help lines can only assist with this particular issue.
We apologize for any inconvenience caused by this issue. All expansions and patches currently on our website are free of this error and safe to download and install.
Sincerely,
CCP
Sure looks to me like CCP has admitted to the mistake, is making amends loudly and publicly (see the front page, forums, news, emails, in game warnings, MOTD warnings, even setting up live phone support) and has apologized for it.
Pretty much makes your faked headlines seem a little.. iffy, especially the blatantly wrong last one.
POST WITH YOUR ALT!
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Kerfira
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Posted - 2007.12.07 21:40:00 -
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Originally by: Mickey Knox
I challenge you the other way around, give me one good example of good customer service you received from ccp.
Identifying an error in their application, removing the DL and provide a fix in less than 6 hours without charging extra sounds like pretty good customer service to me!
It's sure not something you'd get from Dell, Microsoft or other big companies!
FYI, I was affected by this, but restoring boot.ini was a piece of cake.
The amount of whine in this thread is truly amazing. One should think from it that you'd caught someone doing something like this deliberately!
It was a bloody mistake people! A bad one I grant you, but still just a MISTAKE! And it was made because they wanted to do something for YOU, to give YOU a little extra for the game you (supposedly) like before christmas.
I pity all you whiners that you have so little common sense as to blame people for mistakes. Especially when they were made trying to do YOU a service!
I got some news for you. Mistakes happen all the time! YOU make lots of them too! Every time you point your finger at someone in blame, count the number of fingers pointing at yourself. The proportion is right!
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
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Turin
Caldari
Eternity INC.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.12.07 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Mos7Wan7ed
Edited by: Mos7Wan7ed on 07/12/2007 00:44:18
I would be willing to bet out of the 3-4 agreements you had to go through to download install and patch eve that you gave away your rights to compensation to any damage eve software does to your computer or data LOL
Once again. Just because something is put in writing, and you click the "agree" button, does NOT automatically exempt a company from unreasonable damages. Just because something is in writing, does not make it true. Please get this through your head.
JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING IS IN WRITING DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE. JUST BECAUSE YOU AGREE TO SOMETHING DOES NOT MAKE IT OVERLY BINDING.
The EULA eve has is WAY to broad and ambiguious to stand up in court if someone wanted to challange it. Especially in the EU where consumer protection is at a higher standerd. But really, who is going to? You? Me? LAUGH!
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