However, if you really want to remove personal fittings from the DB and back to the client then you're back in ClientLand. I don't really do ClientLand so I cannot speak to the complexity of that.

First of all, I am not your dude.


Secondly, if I want to have 5 dozen Celestis fittings, I should really be able to have that. Why can't I? The amount of DB space required for fittings is probably small in the grand scheme of things.

I would just love to be able to have the old system back.

I was just looking at the stats from TQ after reading this and:
Out of ~310k characters only ~102k have more than 10 fittings saved or a little less than a third of all people using fittings.
Looking at the rest of the gap there are ~58k characters with twenty or more fittings saved, 37k with thirty or more, ~23k with forty and a little less than 8k pilots are already on the limit of fifty.

This is an interesting number.

This makes the most sense. If there were a third option...ie "Personal (max 50)" "Corp (max 100)" "Local (max unlimited)"

See how the usage changes with that, then look into adding additonal slots.

I'm a multi-computer user, so I prefer using the server-side storage. But as the quoted post above says, sometimes I'm just looking at fits temporarily or something and would use whatever machine I'm currently on for that.

KB

I am an incursion runner and I have 50 fittings already filling up.
100 please!

Yeah I'd have thought more people would use the "Save Fitting" feature.

Example: 597:25861;1:6673;3:439;1:4025;1:1183;1:1998;1:1236;1:11269;1::

DBAs never want to store data unless they see a real reason for it to be there. more data in the DB = slower db.

I seriously don't understand how it's a problem to store fittings. The server stores evemail data, notes, the fittings are smaller than the data in your inbox and your useless undeleted bookmarks.

People utilize the fittings menu for plenty of different tanks, any and all different purposes. Now you put it a limit of 50, which is hardly anything.

CCP can put a corp/alliance fitting limit that will just make it less great of a feature and mostly useless. Then you can make it highly more useless by putting personal/local limits. Or how about, just let us do whatever we want with the tool, because it seriously has no affect on anyone what so ever.

Unlimited fittings, local or serverside (I dont care), please and thanks.

They will never bump it higher than it is currently. The number was chosen because it was a marketing move for a future strategy,
Less than 50 there would have been lots more of complains about missing slots. More, you wouldn't be able to sell them through the Nex shop. 50 is the magic number.

I was just looking at the stats from TQ after reading this and:
Out of ~310k characters only ~102k have more than 10 fittings saved or a little less than a third of all people using fittings.
Looking at the rest of the gap there are ~58k characters with twenty or more fittings saved, 37k with thirty or more, ~23k with forty and a little less than 8k pilots are already on the limit of fifty.

Out of interest, what cap would be acceptable. There has to be a cap or people will never bother with cleaning up the fittings they never use and nobody likes having useless data in our DB if we can avoid it.

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and a little less than 8k pilots are already on the limit of fifty.

Out of interest, what cap would be acceptable. There has to be a cap or people will never bother with cleaning up the fittings they never use and nobody likes having useless data in our DB if we can avoid it.

I was just looking at the stats from TQ after reading this and:
Out of ~310k characters only ~102k have more than 10 fittings saved or a little less than a third of all people using fittings.
Looking at the rest of the gap there are ~58k characters with twenty or more fittings saved, 37k with thirty or more, ~23k with forty and a little less than 8k pilots are already on the limit of fifty.

On the corporation side (Max of 100 fittings) we have a total of ~35k corporations saving their fittings.
~11k of those have more than ten fittings, ~6k with more than twenty, ~4k with more than thirty, ~3K with more than forty and moving to ~1.5K, then ~500, ~250, ~150, ~100 and then finally ~35 with all 100 slots filled.

So seeing as corporations must have fittings for all the different operations they are in as well as probably some baseline skill requirements per operational type and only 35 of those find themselves limited by the current 100 maximum: Would you be happy with that max on characters as well? Without even hinting at a promise of doing anything I can tell you that this change is essentially trivial. However, if you really want to remove personal fittings from the DB and back to the client then you're back in ClientLand. I don't really do ClientLand so I cannot speak to the complexity of that. But I sure don't mind removing your data from the database. I love removing data!

At any rate, just thought I'd pipe in on the discussion as that's what I'm doing these days.

Out of interest, what cap would be acceptable. There has to be a cap or people will never bother with cleaning up the fittings they never use and nobody likes having useless data in our DB if we can avoid it.

I was just looking at the stats from TQ after reading this and:
Out of ~310k characters only ~102k have more than 10 fittings saved or a little less than a third of all people using fittings.
Looking at the rest of the gap there are ~58k characters with twenty or more fittings saved, 37k with thirty or more, ~23k with forty and a little less than 8k pilots are already on the limit of fifty.

On the corporation side (Max of 100 fittings) we have a total of ~35k corporations saving their fittings.
~11k of those have more than ten fittings, ~6k with more than twenty, ~4k with more than thirty, ~3K with more than forty and moving to ~1.5K, then ~500, ~250, ~150, ~100 and then finally ~35 with all 100 slots filled.

So seeing as corporations must have fittings for all the different operations they are in as well as probably some baseline skill requirements per operational type and only 35 of those find themselves limited by the current 100 maximum: Would you be happy with that max on characters as well? Without even hinting at a promise of doing anything I can tell you that this change is essentially trivial. However, if you really want to remove personal fittings from the DB and back to the client then you're back in ClientLand. I don't really do ClientLand so I cannot speak to the complexity of that. But I sure don't mind removing your data from the database. I love removing data!

At any rate, just thought I'd pipe in on the discussion as that's what I'm doing these days.

Yeah I'd have thought more people would use the "Save Fitting" feature.