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Rjaiajik Kajvoril Amarr Autonomous Systems	Posted - 2007.12.24 23:24:00 - [1] Ok. Surely people must agree that the word filter on this forum is excessive, I can understand certain words for the sake of stopping overzelous parents from having a hissy fit but It's seriously annoying me. Words such as ***3r and t1t should not be blocked, especially when they block ANY appearance of the world. I've seen sites that have gone as far as to block the word sex, people who live in Sussex in UK where getting temp blocks for excessive profanity. I don't want the forums goint this way. When we cant use words like fire*3r or bluet1t it's getting too bad. The game has no filter AT ALL! Why is the forum becoming ** germany, all these blocked words need be seriously looked into because guess what... people here don't need protecting from nasty words, they're not that pathetic. RickRoll Avoidance Trolling EVE Knowledge
Vikarion United Heavens	Posted - 2007.12.24 23:26:00 - [2] Because if we were allowed to talk like the foul-mouthed space jockeys we are, the internets would melt.
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.12.24 23:26:00 - [3] Most of this was supposed to be fixed with the recent forum upgrade. Apparently they failed. Words like***pit and *er should now work, but... Originally by:** Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.12.24 23:27:00 - [4] and I got so many *** and ** jokes I can't tell here now Originally by:** Tarminic Okay, that's it. You are on the KOS list, and you better pray that I don't have access to a locater agent.
Harris Warspite Developments	Posted - 2007.12.24 23:28:00 - [5] Edited by: Harris on 24/12/2007 23:29:06 Quote: Forum Community Changes and Improvements - Devblog The forum word filter will be updated and some words resulting in filtering of words like***pit or *** will be reviewed. Proper use of multiple definition words will not result in a warning, but improper usage will. Relax buddy, changes will happen. Petition it if you have a word you think should be allowed
Chromakey Dreamcoat Caldari Model Of Aggression	Posted - 2007.12.24 23:30:00 - [6] Edited by: Chromakey Dreamcoat on 24/12/2007 23:31:19 why can't we say the word *** <== ghey?
Vikarion United Heavens	Posted - 2007.12.24 23:30:00 - [7] Likely it is in part because some country out there has rather ludicrous standards of what is decent, and an army of lawyers. More likely that some programmer got paranoid. Most likely that someone managed to abuse every single one of those relatively harmless words in such a way as to make the rest of us begin dry-heaving.
Benco97 Gallente Mineral Dynamics	Posted - 2007.12.24 23:33:00 - [8] Edited by: Benco97 on 24/12/2007 23:33:14 My surname gets filtered Cockayne edit - wait... the forums make me look a fool ;.; Originally by: Kirjava This man speaks the truth, when he farts we count the length in seconds and make squillions buying winning lottery tickets.
Benco97 Gallente Mineral Dynamics	Posted - 2007.12.24 23:34:00 - [9] Originally by: Chromakey Dreamcoat Edited by: Chromakey Dreamcoat on 24/12/2007 23:31:19 why can't we say the word * <== ghey? Why would you want to? Originally by:** Kirjava This man speaks the truth, when he farts we count the length in seconds and make squillions buying winning lottery tickets.
Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2007.12.24 23:45:00 - [10] the word sa***uard gets blocked too (s a f e g u a r d), not sure what that one is about. --
Aladdin Insane Hampshire Massive DIstributed	Posted - 2007.12.25 00:01:00 - [11] Edited by: Aladdin Insane on 25/12/2007 00:03:42 Edited by: Aladdin Insane on 25/12/2007 00:02:33 Edited by: Aladdin Insane on 25/12/2007 00:01:49 Testing... sod, bugger,***, bloody hell, crap, git, arselicker,***jockey, Arse edit: arse edit2: can't believe thats not edited?! _____________________ Eve is not a sandbox Sandboxes always have kitty poo in them
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.12.25 00:04:00 - [12] Poor S******dly :P Now recruiting!
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.12.25 00:13:00 - [13] Originally by: Tharrn Poor S****dly :P Originally by:** Tarminic Okay, that's it. You are on the KOS list, and you better pray that I don't have access to a locater agent.
Synapse Archae Amarr Demonic Retribution Pure.	Posted - 2007.12.25 00:39:00 - [14] Edited by: Synapse Archae on 25/12/2007 00:39:22 ***** * ****** * ****. *** * ** ****** **, ** * ****** * *. ******!??!! - - - Originally by:** CCP Garthagk While these forums may not give you everything that you want, they will usually let you post.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.12.25 00:41:00 - [15] Originally by: Synapse Archae Edited by: Synapse Archae on 25/12/2007 00:39:22 ***** * ****** * ****. *** * ** ****** **, ** * ****** * *. ********!??!! That's cheating. - DesuSigs
Ky Vatta Caldari Majority 12	Posted - 2007.12.25 17:03:00 - [16] Originally by: Tharrn Poor S*****dly :P That`s because americans think it should be spelled Snickerdly (which doesn`t make sense at all, someone send CCP an Oxford English Dictionary) --- Self-confessed Carebear, and proud* of it
Silencioso Muerte	Posted - 2007.12.25 18:09:00 - [17] Edited by: Silencioso Muerte on 25/12/2007 18:10:28 seeing as the average age in EVE is like 29 or sumthing, maybe ccp should stop acting like this is WoW. Why would anyone filter the word *** Ghey, its hardly offensive language. I think.. your jsut trying to keep your mods in with a job, beucase they dont do anything else. edit: i jsut noticed they guy who is stunned because "arse" isnt filtered; What are you 12?! Your the reason its going to get blocked now. ---------------------- **** off and leave my sig alone, if you spent more time trying to fix the lag in your game than of your forums (of which there is NONE) you might get a little less complaints!
Ogul Caldari ZiTek Deepspace Explorations Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.12.25 18:35:00 - [18] Edited by: Ogul on 25/12/2007 18:35:35 Originally by: Silencioso Muerte Why would anyone filter the word *** Ghey, its hardly offensive language. Maybe CCP are a bunch of homophobes? --- This is a war declaration, issued from your alt corp. It is used to gank people in high sec.
Taua Roqa Minmatar Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.12.25 18:48:00 - [19] I comple* agr *th yu tbh. -------------------------------------------- Threads are stacking-nerfed; the more posts you add the less effective those posts are. mooooooo.
techzer0 IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.12.25 19:13:00 - [20] Originally by: Tharrn Poor S******dly :P Never noticed that one... ____________________ Hi. I'm not an alt :)
Shoukei Caldari Boobs Ahoy	Posted - 2007.12.25 19:16:00 - [21] useless word filter has always been the crappies feature on these forums. here be signatures!
Rjaiajik Kajvoril Amarr Autonomous Systems	Posted - 2007.12.27 00:58:00 - [22] Well I'm glad that people agree with me that this needs changing. Is there some way we can petition this to CCP or the webmasters in the forums. It's rediculas. I am personally offended that the word g4y is blocked to the point where I have to avoid the filters with leetspeak to even discuss it. SINCE WHEN DID CCP BECOME MY PARENTS!? They don't give a flying FCK about this in game, I sware all the bloody time in game, yet the forum is censored to a rediculas level. People don't have the right to 'not be offended'. The majority of the EVE players are adults, the EVE players that are children need to shut the hell up, the adults are talking... CCP fix this, it's pssing me off, and I want to express that it's p*ssing me off without the use of a damn asterix to protect the children from my mentally damaging words. So much therapy... grow up. RickRoll Avoidance Trolling EVE Knowledge
Dagda Dia	Posted - 2007.12.27 01:10:00 - [23] You grow up. If you can't talk like that in the bussiness world why do you think you can here? You whinne for the right to cus in the forums and I will whine against you cussing in the forums. Move along nothing to see here, yes I am a ALT Just portecting my main.
Mrs Nottcase Fire Mandrill	Posted - 2007.12.27 01:13:00 - [24] Solution Very simple, easy solution. Create an automatic parental filter, which accounts have by default. This filter censors images and 'bad' words. In Forums > Settings -- Create an option to enable/disable this parental filter.
Sister Impotentata Elite Angels Of Death	Posted - 2007.12.27 01:13:00 - [25] So basically the words are not the problem, the people that snigger at legitimate usage are the problem. It is unreasonable to demand the Mods be able to judge all the offensive words in all of the parent languages we might be using. Therefore they use filtering tools. Sometimes these tools are overzealous in their filtering. That is the price we pay in this age of internet correctness. Perhaps if more people could be more mature in their usage, we wouldn't need these filters. ----- TANSTAAFL Originally by: Psycho John Petrucci If there's any point where you feel it's too difficult, then just stop. Because you just, you don't have it, you're just not good.
Maj Woodcock Minmatar United Space Aillance USA	Posted - 2007.12.27 01:20:00 - [26] Originally by: Sister Impotentata ... Perhaps if more people could be more mature in their usage, we wouldn't need these filters. you got it right sister! PROMISES MADE > PROMISES KEPT *SO SAY WE ALL* "we will deal with it as harshly as our policies allow."
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.12.27 01:27:00 - [27] Originally by: Tarminic Okay, that's it. You are on the KOS list, and you better pray that I don't have access to a locater agent.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.12.27 01:44:00 - [28] Why is S@ddam filtered when Stalin is not? Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Richard Phallus	Posted - 2007.12.27 01:46:00 - [29] Originally by: Dagda Dia You grow up. If you can't talk like that in the bussiness world why do you think you can here? You whinne for the right to cus in the forums and I will whine against you cussing in the forums. You are in the wrong business, I can swear all day and even at people, if they are the right ones. More often about people, when they aren't listening, but I digress. Anyway, pull the large object from your rectum, it seems to be impairing your ability to relax.
Sister Impotentata Elite Angels Of Death	Posted - 2007.12.27 02:00:00 - [30] Originally by: Richard Phallus Originally by: Dagda Dia You grow up. If you can't talk like that in the bussiness world why do you think you can here? You whinne for the right to cus in the forums and I will whine against you cussing in the forums. You are in the wrong business, I can swear all day and even at people, if they are the right ones. More often about people, when they aren't listening, but I digress. Anyway, pull the large object from your rectum, it seems to be impairing your ability to relax. Dagda's wrong and you are right... but both for the wrong reasons. I can talk like "that" in the business world. But I choose not to. What I don't say makes me more powerful. Likewise, I could swear all day at the right people, the wrong people, people present and people not. I'm in that position. But I don't. When I start swearing, I've already lost. My people know when I'm unsatisfied with their performance. Getting upset about it is fail. ----- TANSTAAFL Originally by: Psycho John Petrucci If there's any point where you feel it's too difficult, then just stop. Because you just, you don't have it, you're just not good.
Daelin Blackleaf Aliastra	Posted - 2007.12.27 02:06:00 - [31] Edited by: Daelin Blackleaf on 27/12/2007 02:06:57 Originally by: Sister Impotentata this age of internet correctness. --------- Slightly more on topic it never ceases to amaze me how "civilized" people seem to feel the need to make certain parts of their vocabulary taboo. It seems that these words are picked almost at random and that their elevation to "curse word" status merely increases their use. I'm not talking about CCP here, we all have to live with the rules of "civilized society", but I for one find such restrictions on language immature, petty, and a mockery of the very idea free speech. To please both sides I would like to see the filter made optional as many other parental controls are. I think I'm old enough to decide for myself and I very much dislike the idea of the entire community being restrained by what I personally consider a lunatic fringe of etiquette zealots who believe politeness is a reason to insult, harass, and threaten people all in the name of proper use of English while failing to realize the world has changed and language itself evolves. [/rant]
Richard Phallus	Posted - 2007.12.27 02:10:00 - [32] Originally by: Sister Impotentata ..insightful things... Note that I didn't curse in my post, used more creative words to get my point across (for what it's worth I usually curse at equipment personally)
Karanth Gallente Eve's Brothers of Destiny Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2007.12.27 02:16:00 - [33] Edited by: Karanth on 27/12/2007 02:16:30 Double post. All that's left... There is only one sig hijack that matters, the orginal and only member of the hijack squad. me. -Eris. ps Black russians are better then beer. Well, there's not many of us left! -Rauth
Karanth Gallente Eve's Brothers of Destiny Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2007.12.27 02:16:00 - [34] Originally by: Tharrn Poor S****dly :P Originally by: Sister Impotentata So basically the words are not the problem, the people that snigger at legitimate usage are the problem. It is unreasonable to demand the Mods be able to judge all the offensive words in all of the parent languages we might be using. Therefore they use filtering tools. Sometimes these tools are overzealous in their filtering. That is the price we pay in this age of internet correctness. Perhaps if more people could be more mature in their usage, we wouldn't need these filters. Now, that is a neat trick. All that's left... There is only one sig hijack that matters, the orginal and only member of the hijack squad. me. -Eris. ps Black russians are better then beer. Well, there's not many of us left! -Rauth
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.12.27 02:20:00 - [35] I'm sick of having to quote people to see what they actually called me. - DesuSigs
Sister Impotentata Elite Angels Of Death	Posted - 2007.12.27 02:30:00 - [36] Originally by: Richard Phallus Note that I didn't curse in my post, used more creative words to get my point across Oops, I hope I didn't imply that. Using creative words is exactly the idea. Originally by: Karanth Now, that is a neat trick. ~~I won't tell you who I learned it from, but I learned it within the past few days. I'd only use it to access legitimate words otherwise obscured by filters, if I were you. Otherwise we'll all lose.~~ It's not a trick, and I shouldn't have done it in GD. ----- TANSTAAFL Originally by: Psycho John Petrucci If there's any point where you feel it's too difficult, then just stop. Because you just, you don't have it, you're just not good.
Rjaiajik Kajvoril Amarr Autonomous Systems	Posted - 2007.12.27 10:35:00 - [37] I'm not going to lie, I want to be able to sware. It's legitimate use of the English language to express emotions, often displeasure or anger but that's not my point. Words like Sadd4m, G4y, N4zi, Cr4cker etc. should not be blocked. I'm fed up of being treated like a child by the damn internet, we shouldn't have to stand for this. Why can't we discuss Sadd4m or homosexuality? Are our delicate minds going to melt or something? Let's just have a little test here. George W. Bush. Was that filtered? I doubt it, yet he's more of a tyrant than any other political leader alive today. Political correctness is the language of cowardice. It's like I described in the topic about why religion and politics are banned from discussion in "Out Of Pod" (effectively making the whole section nothing more than spam and 'celebrity gossip news'). We have no freedom in the forums and it's sickening to be treated like this. The forum is supposed to be for the EVE community, a community that's largely adults, treat us like adults and make the forum suited for it's target audience. RickRoll Avoidance Trolling EVE Knowledge
Angela Toren Amarr Toren Shipyards	Posted - 2007.12.27 10:58:00 - [38] Edited by: Angela Toren on 27/12/2007 11:01:10 Originally by: Rjaiajik Kajvoril SINCE WHEN DID CCP BECOME MY PARENTS!? Ever since you decided to use their forums.
El'Niaga Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2007.12.27 10:59:00 - [39] The use of profane or vulgar language is not something that is appropriate to a forum dedicated to a game open to people of all ages. While the average age might be in the mid twenties (though I've not seen any empirical data to support that claim) there are a large number of teens and preteens that play EVE. Such language does not assist in making any arguments or in getting a point across. All such language serves is to demean, belittle, and harass other individuals. I seriously doubt those of you claiming you can use such language at work would keep your jobs long if you used such to your boss or co worker or even to customers in the process of that work. Yes you might could use it in the break room or at the water cooler, but you'd quickly find yourself in hot water using it in other places I highly suspect.
Cyberman Mastermind	Posted - 2007.12.27 11:12:00 - [40] Originally by: Rjaiajik Kajvoril I'm fed up of being treated like a child by the damn internet, I'd suppose that if they allowed these words, someone, somewhere, would have the brilliant idea of being offended by the letter combination and might try to sue CCP. So they're trying to be safe by blocking these words so no one can find an excuse for sueing and/or making troubles. I'd hope I'm wrong, but I don't doubt there are people willing to do that(suing over a word). -------------------------------------------------- I'm a rich person. How I know? I can afford to be a miner.
Shevar Minmatar A.W.M Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.12.27 11:16:00 - [41] Sniggerdly Annoying you gotta resolve to tricksies but meh, better then having a way to tight censor filter (that being said I wouldn't use it to unmask words like **** :>) --- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
SoftRevolution	Posted - 2007.12.27 11:16:00 - [42] Edited by: SoftRevolution on 27/12/2007 11:18:58 The language filter is ricockulous. Some of the words it will filter are fairly mindbendingly stupid. "*"? Who uses that as an insult? I could just call someone a "Raving cottaging enthusiast" instead. *? What? I mean really. Is that to stop us misuing CCP's forum for nefarious fissure related discussions? Some of the words it doesn't filter are pretty stupid too :/ I hate having to self-edit my own swearing so it doesn't look like I'm trying to sneakily get around the filter. I also find the rules about being nice to everybody vaguelly objectionable (some people need insulting and harassing) but that's another whinge. EVE RELATED CONTENT**
Orther Whyte VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Te-Ka	Posted - 2007.12.27 11:21:00 - [43] Edited by: Orther Whyte on 27/12/2007 11:23:32 personally I think the filters are NOT extreme enough; I would love to see every post with more than one "!" or "1!1" or "eve!n11!1!!" type phrase, pwn, or other stupid jargon removed, but I'll be happy with what I have for now. moderation is at the discretion of the moderator, not the public if you don't like go pwn somewhere else!!!111! <personal view not anyone's I may represent>
Shevar Minmatar A.W.M Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.12.27 11:23:00 - [44] Originally by: El'Niaga The use of profane or vulgar language is not something that is appropriate to a forum dedicated to a game open to people of all ages. While the average age might be in the mid twenties (though I've not seen any empirical data to support that claim) there are a large number of teens and preteens that play EVE. Such language does not assist in making any arguments or in getting a point across. All such language serves is to demean, belittle, and harass other individuals. I seriously doubt those of you claiming you can use such language at work would keep your jobs long if you used such to your boss or co worker or even to customers in the process of that work. Yes you might could use it in the break room or at the water cooler, but you'd quickly find yourself in hot water using it in other places I highly suspect. I doubt I would be fired for using a word like mar*** (a small catlike species living in southern america). Yet it is filtered, giving warnings for inappropiate language is 1 thing having some lame filter filtering out all word combinations that can be made with certain letters is just plain stupid. Also please tell me why a word would be inappropiate for minors while not a problem for grown ups? I really doubt any word will be "new" for them and if you think they are then I would say you really need to get a reality check :>. --- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
Rjaiajik Kajvoril Amarr Autonomous Systems	Posted - 2007.12.27 11:26:00 - [45] Originally by: El'Niaga The use of profane or vulgar language is not something that is appropriate to a forum dedicated to a game open to people of all ages. While the average age might be in the mid twenties (though I've not seen any empirical data to support that claim) there are a large number of teens and preteens that play EVE. Such language does not assist in making any arguments or in getting a point across. All such language serves is to demean, belittle, and harass other individuals. Yet it is allowed within the in-game chat rooms... double standards?! RickRoll Avoidance Trolling EVE Knowledge
Zeknichov Life. Universe. Everything.	Posted - 2007.12.27 11:29:00 - [46] Is assassin filtered? Anyways I don't see why anyone would argue for a filter? If the filter is in place for legal reasons then by all means keep it in place. If it's in place for anything other then that please get rid of them. Make all the business comparisons you want, just keep in mind EVE is a game and the forums are for the players who play the game not the employees.
Jeremiah Kane Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.12.27 11:33:00 - [47] Originally by: Tharrn Poor S******dly :P Indeed
Speed Addict	Posted - 2007.12.27 11:37:00 - [48] i completely agree with the TS - - - Hi Speed Devil You are receiving this notice to inform you that your posting privileges have now been permanently terminated. now don't blame me for altposting :(
Tyr Zewa Caldari MASS Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service	Posted - 2007.12.27 11:41:00 - [49] A grade school teacher in Kentucky asked her students to use The word fascinate" in a sentence. Molly put up her hand and said, "My family went to my granddad's Farm, and we all saw his pet sheep. It was fascinating." The teacher said, "That was good, but I wanted you to use the word "fascinate, not fascinating". Sally raised her hand. She said, "My family went to see Rock City and I was fascinated." The teacher said, "Well, that was good Sally, but I wanted you To use The word "fascinate." Little Johnny raised his hand. The teacher hesitated Because she had been burned by Little Johnny before. She finally decided there was no way he could damage the word "fascinate", so she called on him. He said, "My aunt Bessie has a sweater with ten buttons, but her T1ts are so big she can only fasten eight."
Rjaiajik Kajvoril Amarr Autonomous Systems	Posted - 2007.12.27 11:42:00 - [50] Unless it would cause EVE Online trouble that could lead to the game being closed down we don't need this filter, and before people say that CCP would be sued, no-one has ever successfully sued an internet forum for containing swear words. It would be laughed out of any court room, it's just plain rediculas. What is the reason for this filter? What is it's purpose other than to annoy people who happen to type a word with g, a and y in that order somewhere in the letter configuration that happens to have occured in the English Language? CCP fix this now. It's irritating and insulting to the very group that buy your product and therefore pay your wages. Sort it out and stop mothering us. RickRoll Avoidance Trolling EVE Knowledge
Kasak Black The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.12.27 11:43:00 - [51] I wonder, is the word '*****' still filtered?
Kasak Black The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.12.27 11:45:00 - [52] OMG it still is. How is that word offensive!? A gap between two objects is called a 'C rack' I mean come on, I know it can be used for words like *** Pipe and *** between your motheres legs, but seriously.
Rjaiajik Kajvoril Amarr Autonomous Systems	Posted - 2007.12.27 11:55:00 - [53] Because obviously if we where discussing anything on the forums we couldn't possibly use the word cr4ck to talk about something that has split, snapped, chipped or in any other way broken... no we must be talking about recreational drugs and naturally if we read the slang term for this drug we will immediately start trading it and start drug rings... probably by bit-torrent, after all torrenting is evil as well... Ok. I'm all sarcasmed out. CCP, GET OFF YOUR ARSE AND SORT THIS OUT. IT'S PATHETIC. At the very least just block actually obscene words. I can understand the blocking of words such as (and you'll need to press "quote" to read these) **, , ** etc. They serve no purpose other than to be obscene. But we don't need such overzelous filters. It's irritating and insulting. RickRoll Avoidance Trolling EVE Knowledge
SsjGhost	Posted - 2007.12.27 12:02:00 - [54] Would it be too hard to implement a similar system used on X-Box Live. You could select a forum based on the language, EG Extreme = Anything goes Moderate = A few naughty words but none beginning in F, C or S..... Family = No Smack Talk Carebare = Only people on E telling each other how much this community just needs to give each other more hugs.
Charlie Crocodile Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.12.27 12:41:00 - [55] You think that living in Sussex is bad for filtering? Try S****horpe :) Signature inappropriate for Teen rated forum. Mail us at [email protected] if you require further information - Valorem
Rjaiajik Kajvoril Amarr Autonomous Systems	Posted - 2007.12.27 19:22:00 - [56] Yeah, I've been to Scvnthorpe.... the amount of vandalized street signs along the way way funny as all hell. This issue needs resolving, NOW!... RickRoll Avoidance Trolling EVE Knowledge
Saladin Minmatar Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.12.27 19:33:00 - [57] Surely ** is a PG13 word. I should be able to call someone a head? Besides, ** can also be the nickname for Richard.
Rhatar Khurin Minmatar Sten Industries	Posted - 2007.12.27 19:47:00 - [58] Edited by: Rhatar Khurin on 27/12/2007 19:47:25 Hmm, i wonder if the word Christmas is blocked? Doesnt seem to be, which is strange. As many other MMO forums i've used that one is pretty common. _
Max Hardcase Art of War	Posted - 2007.12.27 21:30:00 - [59] Edited by: Max Hardcase on 27/12/2007 21:35:02 ***** is both the name of a drug and of a fissure in a material. The latter one is more commonly used in everyday talk. Its even hard to think of a synonym that people will understand. C rack. With silly inefficient word banning like this ......
Rhaegor Stormborn Volition Cult The Volition Cult	Posted - 2007.12.27 21:35:00 - [60] Originally by: Dagda Dia You grow up. If you can't talk like that in the bussiness world why do you think you can here? You whinne for the right to cus in the forums and I will whine against you cussing in the forums. http://employeefactor.com/2007/10/can_swearing_be_good_for_busin.html Rhaegor Stormborn Fleet Admiral - The Volition Cult
Bish Ounen Gallente Omni-Core Freedom Fighters Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2007.12.27 21:45:00 - [61] what? I have to fix a crack in my tub. In history I learned that Hitler was the leader of the Nazi party. An archaic term for donkey is ass Sniggardly is not a word, but Niggardly is. It is defined as: Grudging or petty in giving or spending. Saddam Hussein is the former dictator of Iraq. How is it you guys have issues with the filter and I don't? Obviously the filter will be corrected and updated when they update the forum software. It would be nice, however, to have an on/off toggle in our personal forum settings, with on as the default. ------------------------------------------ How much would it cost to roll back to RevII CCP?
Rjaiajik Kajvoril Amarr Autonomous Systems	Posted - 2007.12.28 09:33:00 - [62] Nice get around. I'll remember that one... RickRoll Avoidance Trolling EVE Knowledge
Karanth Gallente Eve's Brothers of Destiny Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2007.12.28 10:07:00 - [63] Edited by: Karanth on 28/12/2007 10:08:54 Oh HELL no! Now the mods will descend with permabanning vengeance! The forums will suffer more than the day of the threadnought, when stickies were seen on the third page! The end is nigh! Repent, mother******! Also, while the Forapocalypse is happening, can SOMEONE update my portrait? I changed it almost a month ago now... All that's left... There is only one sig hijack that matters, the orginal and only member of the hijack squad. me. -Eris. ps Black russians are better then beer. Well, there's not many of us* left! -Rauth
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2007.12.28 10:22:00 - [64] I have friends who live in S****horpe, just north of Lincoln, UK. Must they always be victimised by profanity filters?
Rjaiajik Kajvoril Amarr Autonomous Systems	Posted - 2007.12.28 10:27:00 - [65] Edited by: Rjaiajik Kajvoril on 28/12/2007 10:27:38 Edited by: Rjaiajik Kajvoril on 28/12/2007 10:26:43 The poor people in scunthorpe are being victimised... fix it people, fix it. (by the way, I will use the get around for legit usage, not to swear in the forums unduely, that would get me banned. I'm not an idiot). RickRoll Avoidance Trolling EVE Knowledge
fasfhadtrv	Posted - 2007.12.28 10:32:00 - [66] Edited by: fasfhadtrv on 28/12/2007 10:32:04 Originally by: El'Niaga The use of profane or vulgar language is not something that is appropriate to a forum dedicated to a game open to people of all ages. While the average age might be in the mid twenties (though I've not seen any empirical data to support that claim) there are a large number of teens and preteens that play EVE. Such language does not assist in making any arguments or in getting a point across. All such language serves is to demean, belittle, and harass other individuals. I seriously doubt those of you claiming you can use such language at work would keep your jobs long if you used such to your boss or co worker or even to customers in the process of that work. Yes you might could use it in the break room or at the water cooler, but you'd quickly find yourself in hot water using it in other places I highly suspect. I'm totally going to get fired for mentioning ****** Also... "all ages" what all ages? What kids play eve? Oh thats right they play caldari and are in NPC corps with ravens doing missions. % Of kids in eve=very low % Of kids in eve THAT USE THE FORUMS=Incredibly low Also thanks for the qoute tip people
Rjaiajik Kajvoril Amarr Autonomous Systems	Posted - 2007.12.28 11:49:00 - [67] I want to know who decided that these kids are going to be perminatly damaged by these bad words, oh the scaring is awful. They will never recover because they saw the letters f, u, c and k in a specific order. Clearly these kids will have perminant pychological disorders from reading the names of past political parties or dictators that have had a defined effect on the world. We can't ever mention them, think of the children. Well I'm not a child and I don't care if a kid accidentally winds up here because if they're smart enough to play EVE they're smart enough to find **** on the net or read Maddox (google it if you don't know). CCP need to learn that. RickRoll Avoidance Trolling EVE Knowledge
Xavia Cameron Caldari Southern Cross Incorporated Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.28 12:16:00 - [68] I'm 15 and even I agree the filter is insane. You won't find too many players that much younger then me. And I assure you in a modern high school you have to be doing something wrong to not know these words exist. If you already know these words exist, what harm can come of reading them more? We teenagers are not as impressionable as a lot of people give us credit for.
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2007.12.28 12:27:00 - [69] I do hope they get around to fixing it. For the record, the reason certain historical figures were originally added to the list was that the forum has a strict no-politics ban which certain people were flouting regularly in posts concerning those figures. I can see why they added them to the filter but it would have been better done as a short term measure and then removed.
Buchatar Caldari Landra Corp	Posted - 2007.12.28 12:27:00 - [70] Originally by: Xavia Cameron I'm 15 and even I agree the filter is insane. You won't find too many players that much younger then me. And I assure you in a modern high school you have to be doing something wrong to not know these words exist. If you already know these words exist, what harm can come of reading them more? We teenagers are not as impressionable as a lot of people give us credit for. Here here, then again... all it takes is one stupidly over-protective parent and a lawyer. An example is one I saw in WoW (yes this is on topic before I get flamed). One of the races had a joke that went a little like this: "I kill two dwarves in the morning, I kill two dwarves at night, I kill two dwarves in the afternoon and everything alright, I kill two dwarves in times of peace and two in time of war, I kill two dwarves before I kill two dwarves, and then I kill two more." Now this was a good laugh and arguably one of the best little ditty's in the game. However... it was removed... why? Someone noticed that the original version of this song, that is quite old went. "I smoke two spliffs in the morning..." etc. I dont know the finer details... only that all it took was what I said above... "one stupidly over-protective parent and a lawyer." --- Your mother was a hamster, and your afterburners smell of elderberries!
Rjaiajik Kajvoril Amarr Autonomous Systems	Posted - 2007.12.28 13:29:00 - [71] But let's face it, what judge would take the case seriously? Yes it could happen, but if people worry about every sue happy person who could have a problem with them they will never do anything. We shouldn't pander to these people because let's face it, they will find something to get offended at anyway, we should just ignore them. RickRoll Avoidance Trolling EVE Knowledge
Kastar Paragon Horizons Intergalactic Brotherhood	Posted - 2007.12.28 13:34:00 - [72] How is it that this is annoying to anyone ? There's always a synonym... -----------------------------------------------
Rjaiajik Kajvoril Amarr Autonomous Systems	Posted - 2007.12.28 13:36:00 - [73] It's bothering people because it's blocking legitimate words, and longer words that just happen to have 4 letters in it in a certain order. It needs sorting. RickRoll Avoidance Trolling EVE Knowledge
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2007.12.28 13:57:00 - [74] My autopilot voice is ***ling. Is this a sound card issue? Also there is no synonym for Shorpe. Charles **ens would not approve.
Ed Anger Weekly World News Derek Knows Us	Posted - 2007.12.28 14:00:00 - [75] word filters are moronic. please make it a changeable option at the very least.
Xaen Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.12.28 14:49:00 - [76] My autistic stepbrother is clinically ******, and he does not dislike *ers. ^^ Says it all really. And yes, I really have an autistic stepbrother. -- Support fixing the EVE UI \| Suggest Jita fixes**
JamnOne Amarr	Posted - 2007.12.28 16:25:00 - [77] Originally by: Ky Vatta Originally by: Tharrn Poor S****dly :P That`s because americans think it should be spelled Snickerdly (which doesn`t make sense at all, someone send CCP an Oxford English Dictionary) Hmm, don't know if it is an American thing or not but this is what I have learned about the two words, if you will notice it appears as if s** is an alteration to the word snicker based off of the dates and the Etymology. s**[1,intransitive verb] Main Entry: 1snig+ger Pronunciation: \ˈsni-gər\ Function: intransitive verb Inflected Form(s): snig+gered; snig+ger+ing \-g(ə-)riŋ\ Etymology: by alteration Date: circa 1706 Main Entry: 1snick+er Pronunciation: \ˈsni-kər\ Function: intransitive verb Inflected Form(s): snick+ered; snick+er+ing \-k(ə-)riŋ\ Etymology: origin unknown Date: 1694 ________________________ Originally by:** CCP Prism X Hah! Vengeance is sweet!
Lorz0r You're Doing It Wrong	Posted - 2007.12.28 16:38:00 - [78] basically whoever thought that the word cr4ck needed to be censored is a moron how can you even use that word offensively??
Cpt Branko The Bloody Red	Posted - 2007.12.28 16:43:00 - [79] It is highly annoying. I mean, here I go trolling ships and modules again to say some ship is not ***ble (f i t t a b l e) and it bloody censors me. I mean, seriously, what, the ship in question is insulted by my insinuation it's not ***ble? Wtf is up with that? Rifters!
Bish Ounen Gallente Omni-Core Freedom Fighters Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2007.12.28 16:54:00 - [80] Originally by: JamnOne Originally by: Ky Vatta Originally by: Tharrn Poor S****dly :P That`s because americans think it should be spelled Snickerdly (which doesn`t make sense at all, someone send CCP an Oxford English Dictionary) Hmm, don't know if it is an American thing or not but this is what I have learned about the two words, if you will notice it appears as if s** is an alteration to the word snicker based off of the dates and the Etymology. s**[1,intransitive verb] Main Entry: 1snig+ger Pronunciation: \ˈsni-gər\ Function: intransitive verb Inflected Form(s): snig+gered; snig+ger+ing \-g(ə-)riŋ\ Etymology: by alteration Date: circa 1706 Main Entry: 1snick+er Pronunciation: \ˈsni-kər\ Function: intransitive verb Inflected Form(s): snick+ered; snick+er+ing \-k(ə-)riŋ\ Etymology: origin unknown Date: 1694** That and the fact that there is NO WORD "Sniggardly", or "Sniggerdly", or "Snickerdly". Those words don't exist in the English language, not even as Slang. As you noted, there IS a word "snigger", and you provided a very nice definition, thank you. Of course, there is also the word "Niggardly" which I defined in my previous post up at the top of page 2 of this thread. That particular word was involved in a huge uproar here in the States within the last 2 years due to someone using it in a school function (used it in it's appropriate context and meaning as well). The local "African American" populace got wind of it's use via people that were there, and a huge national uproar was started. I can only assume that was due to the fact that it sounds very much like the "N-Word" which many "people of color" rightly find highly offensive. Ultimately though, the people that got upset ended up humiliated when the real meaning of the word was blasted all over national television and they were made to look like ignorant rubes. The scandal died down almost as quickly as it started. And I think that's the real lesson about censorship; When we begin to prevent the use of some words simply due to the fact that some people might be offended by them, it leads to a "loss of language" where both the meaning of words, and general literacy gets lost in the desire to not offend. In the end, society gets poorer and less interesting because of it. ---------------------------------------------- How much would it cost to roll back to RevII CCP?
Hamfast Gallente	Posted - 2007.12.28 18:06:00 - [81] Originally by: Rjaiajik Kajvoril But let's face it, what judge would take the case seriously? Yes it could happen, but if people worry about every sue happy person who could have a problem with them they will never do anything. We shouldn't pander to these people because let's face it, they will find something to get offended at anyway, we should just ignore them. My sister is a teacher, her School District has forbidden the use of all Disney materials because Disney successfully sued a teacher for showing her class a Disney movie... A Lady was awarded Millions by a court when she opened the top of her coffee and placed the cup between her legs while driving, hit a bump and found out the coffee was hot... Need I go on? All it takes is an "Offended" person, a lawyer (the term shyster comes to mind) and a Judge with an agenda... --------*****-------- It takes 43 muscles to frown and 17 to smile, but it doesn't take any to just sit there with a dumb look on your face.
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2007.12.28 18:10:00 - [82] Originally by: Hamfast A Lady was awarded Millions by a court when she opened the top of her coffee and placed the cup between her legs while driving, hit a bump and found out the coffee was hot... That one is an urban legend. One of the details out of those you list is true but she wasn't driving and the cup was closed. She was burned by the paper.
Shevar Minmatar A.W.M Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.12.28 18:11:00 - [83] Originally by: Lorz0r basically whoever thought that the word cr4ck needed to be censored is a moron how can you even use that word offensively?? Lay down the ***** pipe if you can't see how this can be used offensively. On the other hand making comments on sniffing a bunch of lines of coke isn't blocked in any way. But meh messages like these should be moderated and not some filter since the word crack is used in a lot of different words, just as line and coke. --- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
Kas Riel Minmatar Vengeance 8 Interceptors	Posted - 2007.12.28 18:20:00 - [84] Edited by: Kas Riel on 28/12/2007 18:22:12 kinda amusing that you can't say things like ***** on the forum (cr4ck) because they're worried somebody will get offended and file a lawsuit.. but come on if you can get away with unexpected downtimes (not many i admit) and you know the whole boot.ini thing without any worries whats the problem? oh and that picture a while back on the front page? you know the one of somebody getting shot in the face.. that couldn't have been taken as offensive AT ALL oh and before somebody starts screaming EULA!! just make a little check box in your settings that says your over 18/21 or whatever the legal age is in your part of the world and that any offending that goes on has nothing at all to do with CCP
Suzerain	Posted - 2007.12.28 18:29:00 - [85] I never understood why some of the bits like "*" that's f.e.g, in for example, sauard is filtered. just what exactly is to ** in Iceland, do I even dare ask? and, really, referring to the executed leader of iraq, particularly given hssein is a common name akin to filtering Jones or something, is a bit daft. personally, I am a firm believer that anything that is history should not be filtered. Htler, Mussolini, Pol Pot, Tito.... sorry, tto. (because of cause, boobies are unfiltered, but tts are. I am of course, talking about birds there, too...) Pinochet... the list goes on. who are we, as people to censor history and in doing so, deny that such events happened. Yes, the leader of the national socialist party of germany from 1933 to 1945 was a monster... but to erase the name is political correctness gone mad.
Danae Melios Azteca Transportation Unlimited	Posted - 2007.12.28 18:37:00 - [86] I have a feeling that *** was filtered because of the EU. Back in beta, I heard that there were issues with getting the game approved because creating and smuggling illegal drugs (boosters) would be part of gameplay. I suspect that the reference to Gallente being of French origin was because at the time France held the head spot in the EU (I'm American, so I'm not sure-- is it the President of the EU? Prime Minister? Chief Operating Officer?) and this was meant to appease the French ego and help Eve through what I understand was a rocky approval track. Because of the illegal drug issue, I have thought that that word filter was specifically to impress how strongly CCP stood against actual drug smuggling activities. On the other hand, maybe they just bought the word filter's definition bank from some other site, and slapped it in and haven't devoted resources to updating it. Originally by:** game box Conceive a new life without boundaries, where murder, plunder, betrayal, and delusions of grandeur will lead you to boundless glory or to the brink of ruin.
Hamfast Gallente	Posted - 2007.12.28 18:38:00 - [87] Originally by: Adonis 4174 Originally by: Hamfast A Lady was awarded Millions by a court when she opened the top of her coffee and placed the cup between her legs while driving, hit a bump and found out the coffee was hot... That one is an urban legend. One of the details out of those you list is true but she wasn't driving and the cup was closed. She was burned by the paper. Story I stand corrected... --------*****-------- It takes 43 muscles to frown and 17 to smile, but it doesn't take any to just sit there with a dumb look on your face.
Cpt Syrinx	Posted - 2007.12.28 18:41:00 - [88] "so how does one ***** a 10/10 complex?" Making such a question impossible is quite silly, and condescending as well. Most of us are adults that should not require to be moderated by such a system. For those who cannot handle that responsibility themselves, those that read anything offensive can simply be adult enough to ignore it. If they absolutely feel offended they report the poster, not something that would generate towers of work for the forum moderators. Children are to be moderated by their parents, its not CCP's responsibility. If a flawed system would appoint that responsibility to CCP avoiding it in this manner is not the way to go.
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2007.12.28 18:43:00 - [89] Edited by: Adonis 4174 on 28/12/2007 18:45:41 Originally by: Hamfast Originally by: Adonis 4174 Originally by: Hamfast A Lady was awarded Millions by a court when she opened the top of her coffee and placed the cup between her legs while driving, hit a bump and found out the coffee was hot... That one is an urban legend. One of the details out of those you list is true but she wasn't driving and the cup was closed. She was burned by the paper. Story I stand corrected... Note that I'm not disputing whether burning yourself with coffee and getting a fortune in damages is over the top. But it's one of those stories that gets better every time it's told. I suffered burns over most of my legs from cocoa as a child. It was knocked over by someone else and all. Nobody got sued.
Lorz0r You're Doing It Wrong	Posted - 2007.12.28 18:45:00 - [90] Originally by: Shevar Originally by: Lorz0r basically whoever thought that the word cr4ck needed to be censored is a moron how can you even use that word offensively?? Lay down the ***** pipe if you can't see how this can be used offensively. On the other hand making comments on sniffing a bunch of lines of coke isn't blocked in any way. But meh messages like these should be moderated and not some filter since the word crack is used in a lot of different words, just as line and coke. yeah as you said yourself - that's ridiculous because then you have to censor every single word that could be used any offensive sentance imagined. Where does it stop?
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2007.12.28 18:47:00 - [91] Originally by: Lorz0r Originally by: Shevar Originally by: Lorz0r basically whoever thought that the word cr4ck needed to be censored is a moron how can you even use that word offensively?? Lay down the ***** pipe if you can't see how this can be used offensively. On the other hand making comments on sniffing a bunch of lines of coke isn't blocked in any way. But meh messages like these should be moderated and not some filter since the word crack is used in a lot of different words, just as line and coke. yeah as you said yourself - that's ridiculous because then you have to censor every single word that could be used any offensive sentance imagined. Where does it stop? Didn't pwn come about because some game servers banned typing 'owned' as a taunt?
Lorz0r You're Doing It Wrong	Posted - 2007.12.28 18:55:00 - [92] Originally by: Adonis 4174 Originally by: Lorz0r Originally by: Shevar Originally by: Lorz0r basically whoever thought that the word cr4ck needed to be censored is a moron how can you even use that word offensively?? Lay down the ***** pipe if you can't see how this can be used offensively. On the other hand making comments on sniffing a bunch of lines of coke isn't blocked in any way. But meh messages like these should be moderated and not some filter since the word crack is used in a lot of different words, just as line and coke. yeah as you said yourself - that's ridiculous because then you have to censor every single word that could be used any offensive sentance imagined. Where does it stop? Didn't pwn come about because some game servers banned typing 'owned' as a taunt? Dunno, I always assumed it was just a typo that caught on
Hamfast Gallente	Posted - 2007.12.28 19:28:00 - [93] Originally by: Adonis 4174 Edited by: Adonis 4174 on 28/12/2007 18:45:41 Originally by: Hamfast Originally by: Adonis 4174 Originally by: Hamfast A Lady was awarded Millions by a court when she opened the top of her coffee and placed the cup between her legs while driving, hit a bump and found out the coffee was hot... That one is an urban legend. One of the details out of those you list is true but she wasn't driving and the cup was closed. She was burned by the paper. Story I stand corrected... Note that I'm not disputing whether burning yourself with coffee and getting a fortune in damages is over the top. But it's one of those stories that gets better every time it's told. I suffered burns over most of my legs from cocoa as a child. It was knocked over by someone else and all. Nobody got sued. I understood that, I also feel that one story gets modified with each telling in no way diminishes that if you have an "Offended" person, a Lawyer and a Judge then you have the makings of a Lawsuit... Oh, and that Companies go out of their way to try to protect themselves as best they can. --------*****-------- It takes 43 muscles to frown and 17 to smile, but it doesn't take any to just sit there with a dumb look on your face.
Hamfast Gallente	Posted - 2007.12.28 21:05:00 - [94] For those that are not aware... Lawsuit abuse This is why there are filters, this is what you may be opening CCP up to when you avoid the filter... Then again, it could be some other game fuction or item that someone takes them to court over... --------*****-------- It takes 43 muscles to frown and 17 to smile, but it doesn't take any to just sit there with a dumb look on your face.
Cpt Syrinx	Posted - 2007.12.28 22:21:00 - [95] Originally by: Hamfast For those that are not aware... Lawsuit abuse This is why there are filters, this is what you may be opening CCP up to when you avoid the filter... Then again, it could be some other game fuction or item that someone takes them to court over... For the neccesary protection CCP could keep the filter in place on public access on the boards, then when logged in it should be made a choice. This way sensible people can choose to turn the filter off. For underage clients i'll turn to my earlier statement on parental responsibility. Make the feature password protected. For the overprotective kind of parent only their own responsibility to protect their children's actions remains.
Aeon Jonas Caldari The Caldari Confederation	Posted - 2007.12.28 22:32:00 - [96] Originally by: Vikarion Because if we were allowed to talk like the foul-mouthed space jockeys we are, the internets would melt. I am fire safety officer, this would be very bad indeed. Slaps health and safety ban on said act.
Rjaiajik Kajvoril Amarr Autonomous Systems	Posted - 2008.01.01 11:39:00 - [97] Right.... to stop the damn arguing. Snigger = A sly, suppressed and muffled laugh. Sniggerdly = To do something while suppressing laughter. That is ENGLISH! (i.e. not bloody American). Now to get back to the complaint at hand. RickRoll Avoidance Trolling EVE Knowledge
Jessica Lorelei Minmatar Unholy Crusader Mining Corp	Posted - 2008.01.01 14:35:00 - [98] Originally by: Rjaiajik Kajvoril Right.... to stop the damn arguing. Snigger = A sly, suppressed and muffled laugh. Sniggerdly = To do something while suppressing laughter. That is ENGLISH! (i.e. not bloody American). Now to get back to the complaint at hand. YAY burn American dictionaries, force them to learn proper English
Zaknussem Caldari The Ironbreakers	Posted - 2008.01.01 19:51:00 - [99] When the word censor gets updated, I suggest that a word be added to the filter; The word "nerf" should not be allowed to grace this forum ever again.
Rjaiajik Kajvoril Amarr Autonomous Systems	Posted - 2008.01.03 11:10:00 - [100] I would include the word "carebear" in that as well.... but I hate all censoring. RickRoll Avoidance Trolling EVE Knowledge

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