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2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.11 02:05:00 -
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EA downgraded to neutral
http://research.tdameritrade.com/public/stocks/news/story.asp?docKey=4018-EDD480048AC047B2AFC4AA7FCF54FB0E-2UV7P54MAD3QC6VP8UCAKI0LV2 |
Jhagiti Tyran
Muppet Ninja's Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
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Posted - 2012.02.11 04:28:00 -
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So why are you so butthurt about ToR? Are you mad because you paid for a game you didn't like? Are you mad because other people like it when you did not and now you want to justify your dislike by seeing the game perform poorly? Perhaps its because the game is in competition with a game you like?
Did George Lucas ruin your life with the Phantom Menace? Where you on the SWG team at SOE and got sacked after it closed just before the release of ToR?
I am not trolling I am genuinely interested, the population of the game (or the game itself) doesn't interest me but I am really curious about what's causing you and all of the others to rampage all over the internet spamming about how ToR is dying, dead sucks and all other kinds of hyperbole.
Its almost pathological, the only other thing people seem so fervent about is "WAKE UP SHEEPLE 9/11 WAS INSIDE JOB!!!111!!". I am curious about what is causing it. |
2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.11 15:02:00 -
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Jhagiti Tyran wrote:So why are you so butthurt about ToR? Are you mad because you paid for a game you didn't like? Are you mad because other people like it when you did not and now you want to justify your dislike by seeing the game perform poorly? Perhaps its because the game is in competition with a game you like?
Did George Lucas ruin your life with the Phantom Menace? Where you on the SWG team at SOE and got sacked after it closed just before the release of ToR?
I am not trolling I am genuinely interested, the population of the game (or the game itself) doesn't interest me but I am really curious about what's causing you and all of the others to rampage all over the internet spamming about how ToR is dying, dead sucks and all other kinds of hyperbole.
Its almost pathological, the only other thing people seem so fervent about is "WAKE UP SHEEPLE 9/11 WAS INSIDE JOB!!!111!!". I am curious about what is causing it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzDIClx-_pY |
2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.11 20:30:00 -
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http://www.swtor.com/server-status
During peak hours on a Saturday, the busiest day of the week at time of posting this, we have 20 heavy, 174 standard and 22 light servers. Worst weekend since launch, previous was worse than that before and all the way back to end of December last year. No one can argue that it has failed considered time and money invested into a game that not only lacks some sort of growth but is dying in numbers within a month after launch.
Their forums is fun though, people still claiming it is killing WoW and EVE etc as we speak |
Astenion
Spiritus Draconis
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Posted - 2012.02.11 20:32:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote:Quote:SWTOR cost 300+ million to make I like how this number keeps going up each time I see it.
THIS. First it was 80 million, then it was 150 million. Next it jumped to 200 million, and now we see it has reached the 300 million mark.
Wow, geniuses. Before long, Bioware will be its own country and have its own government and budget at this rate if it can fork out 300 million dollars to develop games. Imagine how rich they'll be in ten years! They'll be able to join the UN and maybe even become a part of NATO and develop its own military made up of gamers who have never fired a weapon in their life but can play BF3 really well.
GET OFF MY INTERNET. |
Astenion
Spiritus Draconis
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Posted - 2012.02.11 20:40:00 -
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I don't see the big deal. Are you that big of a pathetic nerd as to actually be ELITIST about an internet science fiction role playing video game? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?!
Forever alone = you |
2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.11 20:41:00 -
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Astenion wrote:Micheal Dietrich wrote:Quote:SWTOR cost 300+ million to make I like how this number keeps going up each time I see it. THIS. First it was 80 million, then it was 150 million. Next it jumped to 200 million, and now we see it has reached the 300 million mark. Wow, geniuses. Before long, Bioware will be its own country and have its own government and budget at this rate if it can fork out 300 million dollars to develop games. Imagine how rich they'll be in ten years! They'll be able to join the UN and maybe even become a part of NATO and develop its own military made up of gamers who have never fired a weapon in their life but can play BF3 really well. GET OFF MY INTERNET.
http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/01/17/analyst-believes-star-wars-the-old-republic-had-a-500-million/
EA refuse to tell us how much it is.
Michael Pachter made up the 80 million USD price tag way back. Most believe it is around 300 million USD, latest analysts think it is infact 500 million USD.
You are welcome to investigate it further. The more I have tried to figure out how much it is and take into consideration how much it costs to create a new studio and offices etc. Not to mention the trailers, 7 years of development and more, 300 million USD seems to make sense and I think that is why it is the most quoted figure. It could be more, I doubt it could be less. |
2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.11 20:42:00 -
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Astenion wrote:I don't see the big deal. Are you that big of a pathetic nerd as to actually be ELITIST about an internet science fiction role playing video game? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?!
Forever alone = you
Calm down, relax and take your medication |
Astenion
Spiritus Draconis
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Posted - 2012.02.11 20:48:00 -
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Show me who these analysts are and show me where they're quoted as saying IT'S HALF A BILLION ******* DOLLARS FOR A ******* VIDEO GAME. That's absolute LUNACY. Voice acting just doesn't cost that much and the video game is not even close graphically to other video games of today. IT RUNS ON DX9 FOR DOG'S SAKE! Were they all snorting coke off hookers' **** every morning for 7 years?
Had they made an entire game from start to finish, scrapped it, and then started all over from the very beginning with a completely new graphics engine, new voice actors, cutting edge technology, ten times as big a universe as it is now, and even made a movie to go with it, IT STILL WOULDN'T HAVE COST 500 MILLION DOLLARS. I don't need to investigate further because all this is is a bunch of video game nerds pulling bullshit out of their asses. |
Micheal Dietrich
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2012.02.11 20:49:00 -
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You guys heard it here first. Two hundred and sixteen servers filled with players enjoying the game is fail (Keyword!).
Edit: Rough approximation based on server size 3000 we get 430,000 fails playing online currently. Pretty much dead on with my drop off prediction that I had with other users on the Rift forums. It's also 9 times more fail than Eve has online currently. |
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Astenion
Spiritus Draconis
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Posted - 2012.02.11 20:49:00 -
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2bhammered wrote:Astenion wrote:I don't see the big deal. Are you that big of a pathetic nerd as to actually be ELITIST about an internet science fiction role playing video game? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?!
Forever alone = you Calm down, relax and take your medication
Sorry, but I have zero tolerance for people who say stupid **** simply because it's the first thing that comes to their mind. |
2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.11 20:51:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote:You guys heard it here first. Two hundred and sixteen servers filled with players enjoying the game is fail (Keyword!).
#64Posted: 2012.02.11 20:30 | Report | Edited by: 2bhammered http://www.swtor.com/server-status
During peak hours on a Saturday, the busiest day of the week at time of posting this, we have 20 heavy, 174 standard and 22 light servers. Worst weekend since launch, previous was worse than that before and all the way back to end of December last year. No one can argue that it has failed considered time and money invested into a game that not only lacks some sort of growth but is dying in numbers within a month after launch.
Their forums is fun though, people still claiming it is killing WoW and EVE etc as we speak .
You seem to care a lot about this thread |
Astenion
Spiritus Draconis
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Posted - 2012.02.11 20:59:00 -
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Here's what has to be taken into account: it's not WoW, it's Star Wars. SW has millions of fans, this is true, but not every single fan is going to play an MMO of SW. I, for example, never played SWG because it didn't interest me even though I am a huge SW fan.
This is a game that revolves around the SW universe and people who aren't big fans of SW aren't going to fork over money every month to play a video game they probably won't like. You have somehow jumped to the conclusion that it's a world easily accessible to the layperson like WoW was. This just isn't the case.
If anything, SWTOR is closer to Eve due to its niche market. It's not an underground title from a small company, but nonetheless it's only going to appeal to those who enjoy Star Wars. I fail to see how so many have overlooked this fact when it's as plain as day. |
Micheal Dietrich
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2012.02.11 20:59:00 -
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2bhammered wrote:You seem to care a lot about this thread
I enjoy pointing out fallacies in idiotic logic, it's a side hobby of mine. |
2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.11 21:12:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote:2bhammered wrote:You seem to care a lot about this thread I enjoy pointing out fallacies in idiotic logic, it's a side hobby of mine.
You have done it quite a few times in this thread already, that is, pointing out to everyone that you have "idiotic logic". I have humored you this far by responding to your posts with reason and even a bit of humor, but since all you can do is troll and use contradiction in your arguments in more than one thread I shall stop and leave you for good to rant, cry and ***** all you want all day long.
Just remember, this is a forum with a thread about a video game, not the end of the world |
Astenion
Spiritus Draconis
143
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Posted - 2012.02.11 21:14:00 -
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2bhammered wrote:
You are the only one here saying "stupid ****" simply because it is the first thing that came to your mind. Also you are behaving like a madman for the record, take a deep breath, read my disclaimer and calm the **** down because you are about to have a brain aneurysm if you keep this up.
I think you overestimate your powers of perception, Dr. Shrinkmann. The first thing that came to my mind is that you're an idiot if you actually believe these "analysts" (who, by the way, you still haven't referenced) claim it cost them half a billion dollars to make a video game on par with 2007/8 technology, and you see nothing at all wrong with that statement. This is not madness, this is reality, and you have officially broken with it.
Like I said, zero tolerance for stupid ****. If you don't like my calling you out on it, stop pulling ridiculous crap out of your ass. |
2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.11 21:26:00 -
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Astenion wrote:2bhammered wrote:
You are the only one here saying "stupid ****" simply because it is the first thing that came to your mind. Also you are behaving like a madman for the record, take a deep breath, read my disclaimer and calm the **** down because you are about to have a brain aneurysm if you keep this up.
I think you overestimate your powers of perception, Dr. Shrinkmann. The first thing that came to my mind is that you're an idiot if you actually believe these "analysts" (who, by the way, you still haven't referenced) claim it cost them half a billion dollars to make a video game on par with 2007/8 technology, and you see nothing at all wrong with that statement. This is not madness, this is reality, and you have officially broken with it. Like I said, zero tolerance for stupid ****. If you don't like my calling you out on it, stop pulling ridiculous crap out of your ass.
No I don't think I overestimate my power of perception at all. In fact, I would bet money on that you do see a shrink and take meds, that or you are very passionate about SWToR. But I honestly do not care one way or the other, nor will I care enough talk to you anymore. I just wanted you to calm down because the way you write a post it seems like you are slamming your keyboard screaming and throwing a fit, which is not healthy at all. Also not what I want people to do with this thread.
Feel free to rant and cry about my thread until your face is blue though, I wont try to stop you, peace |
Micheal Dietrich
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2012.02.11 21:26:00 -
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2bhammered wrote:Micheal Dietrich wrote:2bhammered wrote:You seem to care a lot about this thread I enjoy pointing out fallacies in idiotic logic, it's a side hobby of mine. You have done it quite a few times in this thread already, that is, pointing out to everyone that you have "idiotic logic". I have humored you this far by responding to your posts with reason and even a bit of humor, but since all you can do is troll and use contradiction in your arguments in more than one thread I shall stop and leave you for good to rant, cry and ***** all you want all day long. Just remember, this is a forum with a thread about a video game, not the end of the world
Haha the old switch-a-roo of my comment! Forum tactic #33. Oh dear, you completely have me cornered now! What. Ever. Shall. I. Do?
And you are correct, it is a video game and not the end of the world. For the majority of us anyways. But you are hell bent on seeing some supposed destruction of a game that you didn't enjoy. For the average person, when they don't enjoy a video game, they simply quit and move on but you, no, you must lobby for it's downfall and post inane dribble. We knew a lawyer like that once, his name was Jack Thompson. |
Astenion
Spiritus Draconis
143
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Posted - 2012.02.11 21:38:00 -
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2bhammered wrote:No I don't think I overestimate my power of perception at all. In fact, I would bet money on that you do see a shrink and take meds, that or you are very passionate about SWToR. But I honestly do not care one way or the other, nor will I care enough talk to you anymore. I just wanted you to calm down because the way you write a post it seems like you are slamming your keyboard screaming and throwing a fit, which is not healthy at all. Also not what I want people to do with this thread. Feel free to rant and cry about my thread until your face is blue though, I wont try to stop you, peace
Haha, the troll is strong with this one. I'm going to question people's sanity when I'm discovered to be full of it because my skin is so thin you can read a newspaper through it. Yes, that's exactly what I'm doing, just banging away at the keyboard frantically and punching my monitor. Oh, the frustration.
Forums are an art form of debate, which you suck at terribly. If you can't back up your claims or even see your idiocy, just stop posting. If you don't like being called out for saying stupid crap, stop posting stupid crap for which you will be called out. If you can't understand sarcasm with bite, stop posting...hell, for that matter what are you doing in Eve if you can't take the spears? |
2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.11 21:40:00 -
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Bioware Austin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRrMu7B1L2I |
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2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.11 22:41:00 -
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"Francis rages about Star Wars the old republic"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JToIHroU-WY&feature=fvwrel
Funniest game rant ever
(tune in tomorrow for more videos, biodrones and tortanic stuff) |
Astenion
Spiritus Draconis
143
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Posted - 2012.02.12 00:15:00 -
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Ah Francis...I've been waiting for this one. This is destined to become a classic. |
2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.12 00:39:00 -
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Astenion wrote:Ah Francis...I've been waiting for this one. This is destined to become a classic.
He is funny, check his latest video when he destroys his xbox
A funny pic a bit off-topic but funny
http://i42.tinypic.com/2j2sqw9.jpg |
2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
63
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Posted - 2012.02.12 10:16:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooQcJ7_kAvE&feature=related Train-wreck has arrived!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjxLk-KsmmA&feature=related No love for Australians!
Ok end of fun now let's be serious
http://youtu.be/SLExu-OjkPY |
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
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Posted - 2012.02.12 17:35:00 -
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This thread is gorgeous, people rebuking each other's claim will make my monday tomorrow at the office.
Please keep it going and alive, I for one sub to the FAIL TOR , Tortanic mindset, but must hopelessly admit I shelled 60$ for this plastic box made in china gizmo : Book of Sith Vault Edition
IT OPENS AND CLOSES OMGGGGGGGG STAR WARSSSSS ... meh , I want it Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco |
2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
64
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Posted - 2012.02.13 03:44:00 -
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Brujo Loco wrote:This thread is gorgeous, people rebuking each other's claim will make my monday tomorrow at the office. Please keep it going and alive, I for one sub to the FAIL TOR , Tortanic mindset, but must hopelessly admit I shelled 60$ for this plastic box made in china gizmo : Book of Sith Vault Edition IT OPENS AND CLOSES OMGGGGGGGG STAR WARSSSSS ... meh , I want it
I try my best to bring entertainment
I also had a sub, because one have to in order to play/use my 28 free days (yep EA screwed over a lot of people not giving them a month, or EA month=28 days,) but I did not mind since I stopped playing after 2 weeks or something, it was that boring. I think Bioware lacks what they use to have, it is called "fun".
This is a good review that sums up a lot of the problems with SWToR.
http://www.wolfsheadonline.com/swtors-300-million-virtual-bridge-to-nowhere/#b5414
Most common word by the way used to describe SWToR, they had a thread on the official forums for people to use one word to describe the game. That word is "Soulless" and says it all really.
By the way, why buy the book? Just google it,even youtube has them uploaded, I listened to Revan on youtube. I also regretted it
Now over to something completely different! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9C9OKMyZng&feature=related
Oh and a great comic depicting Bioware, SWToR and fans based on revenge of the sith movie.
http://imgur.com/a/mgIyx |
Drachiel
Mercury LLC
9
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Posted - 2012.02.18 06:05:00 -
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SWTor massive stinking bomb.
Server stats in the floor. |
Astrid Stjerna
Teraa Matar
608
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Posted - 2012.02.18 09:20:00 -
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2bhammered wrote: They never cared, they never cared about making a great game, they just wanted something fast to capitalize on WoWs success and get a piece of the pie.
The thing to know about EA is that they've had that reputation for a long, long time. Back when EA was publishing for Origin (the makers of the Ultima series), they were notorious for rushed (and very incomplete) products, family-destroying mandatory overtime and unreasonable launch dates.
Ultima VII Part I: rushed, but thankfully finished properly. Ultima VII Part II: rushed and unfinished. Ultima VIII: cancelled expansion pack, dangling plot hooks. Ultima IX: executive-meddled into a god-awful, bug-filled, nearly-unplayable, lore-destroying mess. Ultima Online: filled with samurai and elves (neither of which have ever appeared in the Ultima universe). UO II: cancelled because it would compete with its predecessor.
After a huge backlash from 'Widows of EA', they relented and started to clean up, but the reputation still lingers.... ((Please note:-áAt times, my characters-ámay be a-holes, but-áI am most certainly not.-áWhat they say IC has no bearing on my OOC opinions or behaviors, and I apologize in advance if you are offended OOC by anything I might say or do-áIC.)) |
mama guru
Evolution
25
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Posted - 2012.02.18 12:07:00 -
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tortanic is what happens when a bunch of idiots from /v/ and reddit starts posting about a less than satisfactory launch. It's not gonna die just because you have nothing better to post about.
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EVE online is the fishermans friend of MMO's. If it's too hard you are too weak. |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2012.02.18 13:56:00 -
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mama guru wrote:tortanic is what happens when a bunch of idiots from /v/ and reddit starts posting about a less than satisfactory launch. It's not gonna die just because you have nothing better to post about.
They're just putting a dramatic presentation for the declining population trend and feelings of disapointment many players have felt. By looking at the server population trends it seems clear that the game peaked soon after launch and has been on a steady decline ever since. It will likely peak again in march, since it launches it's initial asian servers then, but the current trend confirms its popularity is in a steady decline. |
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