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2bhammered
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Posted - 2012.02.22 16:11:00 -
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Astrid Stjerna wrote:2bhammered wrote: They never cared, they never cared about making a great game, they just wanted something fast to capitalize on WoWs success and get a piece of the pie.
The thing to know about EA is that they've had that reputation for a long, long time. Back when EA was publishing for Origin (the makers of the Ultima series), they were notorious for rushed (and very incomplete) products, family-destroying mandatory overtime and unreasonable launch dates. Ultima VII Part I: rushed, but thankfully finished properly. Ultima VII Part II: rushed and unfinished. Ultima VIII: cancelled expansion pack, dangling plot hooks. Ultima IX: executive-meddled into a god-awful, bug-filled, nearly-unplayable, lore-destroying mess. Ultima Online: filled with samurai and elves (neither of which have ever appeared in the Ultima universe). UO II: cancelled because it would compete with its predecessor. After a huge backlash from 'Widows of EA', they relented and started to clean up, but the reputation still lingers....
EA to me is what most big movie and music studios are today, perhaps even worse.
I remember when they started to change and accept the fact that they have lost it. They even took a few risks making new IP's such as Dead Space, with a clear stated goal to be at the top of meta-critic. Now they buy review scores and when users give a score less than 8 out of 10 they even went as far as accuse/imply that fans of WoW went on some campaign to destroy its reputation.
It is kinda funny, but I think they have gone mad over at BW and EA. It would not surprise me to learn that they really think their game is worth 5/5 even though they paid for reviewers to give it that score. It is akin to George Lucas coming up with Jar Jar Binks thinking it is a great character and is funny because the people he pay agrees with him.
EA has lost money for years and years and continue to do so, their management handles the company in a similar manner to that of a bank or investment firm etc. Perhaps they think they are eligible to bailouts?
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2bhammered
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Posted - 2012.02.22 16:22:00 -
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mama guru wrote:tortanic is what happens when a bunch of idiots from /v/ and reddit starts posting about a less than satisfactory launch. It's not gonna die just because you have nothing better to post about.
It is dying as a game, it is dead as far as EA and BW goals with this game as those of their investors. The game is a massive failure both as a piece of entertainment and financial investment.
If you want to put your head in the sand and ignore that fact and pretend everyone such as I are mere "trolls" and "idiots" go for it, but don't think your conviction can alter reality. |

2bhammered
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Posted - 2012.02.22 16:29:00 -
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http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2012/01/20/star-wars-the-old-republic-the-story-behind-a-galactic-gamble/#/0
Interesting article above about the development. Some sweet bits of truth that offers further explanation as to how and why EA and BW ****** up SWTOR.
IE-
"Art has been outsourced to Russia, Estonia and China. Motion capture filming is done in L.A. and Vancouver, Canada, with voices recorded in New York, London and Paris in English, French and German. Quality assurance testing takes place in Romania, Argentina and India, while technical operations are run out of Virginia and the customer service center operates in Ireland. A regular plane shuttles employees between Austin and Electronic ArtsGÇÖ headquarters in Redwood Shores, Calif."
Worst planning ever??
"After attempts to adapt GÇ£Lord of the Rings,GÇ¥ GÇ£A Game of ThronesGÇ¥ and Marvel comic book super-heroes like such as Spider-Man, the team signed a co-publishing deal with GÇ£Star WarsGÇ¥ creator George Lucas."
Not first choice ha? I wonder if you even "wanted" to make a Star Wars MMO at all... |

2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.23 20:09:00 -
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The user rating of Star Wars: The Old Republic on Metacritic is lower, however - but Ohlen was quick to explain why he thinks that is.
"Oh that's easy," he retorted. "Several of the designers were watching the Metacritic page when it finally came up and what happened was there is a community out there, and we don't know who they are - it could be a bunch of different people - who aren't really playing the game but have a vested interest in hating the game. And we saw literally hundreds of 0/10s come up within the first couple of hours of Metacritic coming on. So it was people who weren't even playing the game basically putting on that they hated it.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-01-12-bioware-swtor-post-mortem-its-more-innovative-than-an-fps
Where ignorance is bliss... |

Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
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Posted - 2012.02.23 23:38:00 -
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Astrid Stjerna wrote: Ultima VII Part I: rushed, but thankfully finished properly. Ultima VII Part II: rushed and unfinished. Ultima VIII: cancelled expansion pack, dangling plot hooks. Ultima IX: executive-meddled into a god-awful, bug-filled, nearly-unplayable, lore-destroying mess. Ultima Online: filled with samurai and elves (neither of which have ever appeared in the Ultima universe). UO II: cancelled because it would compete with its predecessor.
Funny that you mention that.... remember the main villains from Ultima VII?
Elisabeth & Abraham.
E & A.....
And no, that wasn-¦t a coincidence. Unbanned since 2011.10.20. |

2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.24 18:36:00 -
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Prime time folks!!
http://www.swtor.com/server-status
1 server heavy!
100 standard!
110 light!!
http://beta.xfire.com/games/swtor |

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2012.02.24 19:34:00 -
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Is there a particular point you want to make or are you just responding to criticism of you choosing a bad time for your previous server status measurement? Everyone grounded in reality knows people are logging in less and less to the game. In all likelyhood the game is bleeding subs, but there is no way of telling at what speed, since you can explain the severity of the server status changes in all kinds of various ways(for example end of holidays and people play less at max level and after the initial playing spree, ect. depending on how desperate you are to give it a positive spin). Basicly meaning until you get exact figures you can even attempt to claim they're increasing their sub count at a good rate and the players are just loggin in less for various reasons.
Just to make it clear, I don't doubt the game has troubles right now and what BW will do in the next month or two will decide how severe the bleeding will end up being. I know people who play or played the game and the story from them is always pretty much the same. Really excited at the start, good leveling experience and then at max level everyone loses interest in a few weeks and the ones who still play are finding less and less reason to do so, since their guild mates have abandoned the game and they can't access the content anymore due to difficulty of finding groups and are thinking of following their friends back to whatever game they went back to. Final verdict varies between weak to average MMO with good leveling.
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stoicfaux
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Posted - 2012.02.25 01:33:00 -
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Got a survey in the email (I played in the beta.) After selecting that I wasn't going to buy the game, I got some interesting questions.
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.27 12:12:00 -
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http://www.keenandgraev.com/2012/02/14/copy-gold-leader-out/
Keen says he is out.
http://www.swtor.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=255
Forums are on fire and...
http://www.torocast.com/content/1330304692/torocast-ep-141-everyone-moves
Let's talk about GW2 on the longest running tor fan podcast and about how awesome it will be :D (because SWTOR sucks.)
PS: TOR had the worst server stats this weekend since its launch, like previous weekend and the one before that and the one before that one etc... |

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2012.02.27 20:01:00 -
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I predicted this happening when somone describe ToR as Instanceville.
Found this thread funny anyone want to start betting isk?
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=330046&page=1
I say 250k subs in 6 months.
50 mil isk.
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2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.28 04:08:00 -
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I'll be putting 50mil ISK for maximum 300k subs at the end of May 
Feel free to take my bet! |

2bhammered
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Posted - 2012.03.02 09:19:00 -
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http://penny-arcade.com/report/editorial-article/the-doctors-from-bioware-discuss-the-old-republic-launch-ending-a-trilogy-a
Possible Mass Effect MMO? Ray Muzyka CEO of Bioware Corp seems to think so.
GÇ£Now that weGÇÖve learned MMOs are really easy to make, and simple to run after the fact, weGÇÖre on it!GÇ¥ |

Zeomebuch Nova
Metalworks
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Posted - 2012.03.08 18:56:00 -
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OP, you seem to very emotional regarding either the success or fail of SwTor (a game i have not even touched).
Just out of curiosity (and being serious):
How much time have you spent hating this game? Was the time worth it? |

Stellar Vix
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.08 20:48:00 -
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It would be much less time you would waste on it if you heed her warnings. |

Zeomebuch Nova
Metalworks
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Posted - 2012.03.08 22:13:00 -
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Stellar Vix wrote:It would be much less time you would waste on it if you heed her warnings.
This meaning, that he does all the hating, because he care about the time of unknown people would or would not waste?
Interesting, not even my mom back then cared so much about my own time. |

Jhagiti Tyran
Muppet Ninja's Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
237
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Posted - 2012.03.08 23:17:00 -
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Zeomebuch Nova wrote:Stellar Vix wrote:It would be much less time you would waste on it if you heed her warnings. This meaning, that he does all the hating, because he cares about the potentially wasted time of unknown people? Interesting, not even my mom cared so much about my own time back then. I feel important now.
Bioware haters are fun, the magnificent Jim Sterling describes them well,
Quote:It's becoming an annual circus that we all have free tickets to. A new BioWare game is released, and there's a catastrophic fallout of complaints, accusations, and histrionic rage. Some of it's ridiculous, some of it's justified, but all of it can prove entertaining for the spectators.
Thank god for Jim. |

Erk Aspurgur
Ghost Patrol Bringers of Death.
0
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Posted - 2012.03.10 18:04:00 -
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i just wanted to say that i left swtor for playing eve, have played 2 months and this is a very fascinating game, complex, and uniqe game unless most other mmos. |

2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.10 18:42:00 -
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Erk Aspurgur wrote:i just wanted to say that i left swtor for playing eve, have played 2 months and this is a very fascinating game, complex, and uniqe game unless most other mmos.
Objection!
Unique?
Are you serious??? |

2bhammered
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Posted - 2012.03.10 18:45:00 -
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Zeomebuch Nova wrote:Stellar Vix wrote:It would be much less time you would waste on it if you heed her warnings. This meaning, that he does all the hating, because he cares about the potentially wasted time of unknown people? Interesting, not even my mom cared so much about my own time back then. I feel important now.
Hey, do you post this drivel on reddit, 4chan, ign.com, 1up.com, gamespot.com, shakcnews.com, youtube.com, facebook.com, rottentomatoes.com, twitter.com, blogs, other forums etc?
Yes, you are important, so important that you bumped a thread I and others already left long ago 
Thanks! |

Erk Aspurgur
Ghost Patrol Bringers of Death.
0
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Posted - 2012.03.10 21:48:00 -
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2bhammered wrote:Erk Aspurgur wrote:i just wanted to say that i left swtor for playing eve, have played 2 months and this is a very fascinating game, complex, and uniqe game unless most other mmos. Objection!Unique?COMPLEX??? ARE YOU SERIOUS???
hmm, i think u got it wrong, mayby you should try to read my post again... |

Lady Skank
Ban Evasion inc
7
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Posted - 2012.03.10 23:11:00 -
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Erk Aspurgur wrote:2bhammered wrote:Erk Aspurgur wrote:i just wanted to say that i left swtor for playing eve, have played 2 months and this is a very fascinating game, complex, and uniqe game unless most other mmos. Objection!Unique?COMPLEX??? ARE YOU SERIOUS??? hmm, i think u got it wrong, mayby you should try to read my post again...
One has to wonder how so much stupid can fit into a single person. |

2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.10 23:40:00 -
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Erk Aspurgur wrote:
hmm, i think u got it wrong, mayby you should try to read my post again...
I read it again.
I hope you can forgive me and welcome to EvE Online  |

2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.10 23:41:00 -
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Lady Skank wrote:
One has to wonder how so much stupid can fit into a single person.
Indeed, I read his post as "left for swtor" when it was "left swtor for". Have a good day Skank! |

Erk Aspurgur
Ghost Patrol Bringers of Death.
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Posted - 2012.03.10 23:47:00 -
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2bhammered wrote:Erk Aspurgur wrote:
hmm, i think u got it wrong, mayby you should try to read my post again...
I read it again. I hope you can forgive me and welcome to EvE Online 
hehe, np and thanks. |

2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.10 23:52:00 -
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Erk Aspurgur wrote:2bhammered wrote:Erk Aspurgur wrote:
hmm, i think u got it wrong, mayby you should try to read my post again...
I read it again. I hope you can forgive me and welcome to EvE Online  hehe, np and thanks. 
If you need anything just let me know. Tips, help or whatever, just send me a mail in-game to this character if you can think of something. |

2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.12 01:27:00 -
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http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/03/08/behind-the-scenes-of-star-wars-the-old-republic-throwing-people-at-the-problem/
"During the last six months of development, the team began a difficult triage process; where features that werenGÇÖt going to make it for launch were cut. All development heads were summoned to daily meetings at what Dallas dubbed GÇÿThe Death StarGÇÖ GÇô with each team being coached on what to cut, and what to keep. GÇ£Some developers cried,GÇ¥ explained Dallas. GÇ£I didnGÇÖt enjoy that.GÇ¥"
"To grow, the TOR team were hiring relentlessly. Dallas explained that they would travel to game development schools around the US and offer the top ten percent of each graduating class a year long contract to work in Austin."
"To build the game, the team hired in stages; first building a structure they thought that would work, before laying on staff. At peak, the team size was staggering: 280 QA staff. 140 artists split evenly between internal and outsourced staff. 80 engineers and programmers, 75 designers, 40 platform engineers and 30 producers to manage the teamGÇÖs workload and organise."
If interested read the full article, it does offer some good insights into the problems with developing SWTOR.
Today http://beta.xfire.com/games/swtor further dropping with only one server reaching status "heavy" in the EU.
SWTOR now marked as warhammer online with a Star Wars skin has now more problems to deal with after the failure of Mass Effect 3 and in general EA failing at every turn. |

Adacia Calla
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:31:00 -
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It has about the same features and gameplay as WoW: The Burning Crusade, with worse raid bosses. Test signature....forum not applying settings :( |

Indus Mono
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 04:04:00 -
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I shared this in another thread but I think it's pertinent here too --> SWTOR video says it all (with boobs)
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Lord Mandelor
Consolidated Holdings War Ensemble.
132
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Posted - 2012.03.14 06:03:00 -
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The F2P weekend is going to be amazing. "The ship isn't sinking! My side just rose up 200 feet!" ConHo Daily: http://conhodaily.blogspot.com Stories ranging from midgets inside your Damage Control to drones becoming self-aware. |

Jhagiti Tyran
Muppet Ninja's Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
237
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Posted - 2012.03.14 07:15:00 -
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2bhammered wrote: the failure of Mass Effect 3 and in general EA failing at every turn.r
Rubbish, Mass Effect 3 outsells Mass Effect 1 & 2 combined |
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