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Vaari
Amarr Imperial Pharmacy
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Posted - 2008.01.09 20:25:00 -
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I think it is time to close the ability to create alternative characters. They are constantly pain and are used to haras others. I see them nothing but nuisance. This game would be much better without them. I demand that next patch will eliminate all existing alts and prevent their creation.
This beginning. This birth of life. This dawn of greatness. I can not fail, for I have the Emperor to lead me and destiny to follow. undefined |

Maasus Maxx
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.09 20:26:00 -
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No
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.09 20:27:00 -
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Possibly the dumbest suggestion since the one to work alts into the design of the game.
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Turin
Caldari Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.09 20:28:00 -
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I demand the next patch remove you from the player database.
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Dianeces
Minmatar Repo Industries
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Posted - 2008.01.09 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: Vaari I think it is time to close the ability to create alternative characters. They are constantly pain and are used to haras others. I see them nothing but nuisance. This game would be much better without them. I demand that next patch will eliminate all existing alts and prevent their creation.
Your ideas are intriguing. I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
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Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.01.09 20:32:00 -
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If we ended alt, what would I press to talk on ventrilo?
Can we just keep the right alt? I hardly ever use the left one! _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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Valrandir
Gallente Slacker Industries Cult of War
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Posted - 2008.01.09 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: Vaari I think it is time to close the ability to create alternative characters. They are constantly pain and are used to haras others. I see them nothing but nuisance. This game would be much better without them. I demand that next patch will eliminate all existing alts and prevent their creation.
Yes
1- Warn that in 6 months all alts will be terminated and each account will only hold one character. 2- In 6 months, do it.
-------------------------------- This has surpassed the Yarrdware specification and has been dubbed Uberware - Oveur
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Victor Forge
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.01.09 20:36:00 -
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No, but make it possible to see all alts of a poster in forums. Then posters will have to stand for their posts instead of hiding behind alts.
In game there is no better or more available Scout than a completly untrained alt with no implants in a starter ship. It is simply not worth the ammo to kill.
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Haradgrim
The Wild Bunch INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.01.09 21:01:00 -
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I sometimes wonder how "certain" people manage to get up in the morning and avoid dying throughout the day.....
The problem with any attempt to ban alts (I'm actually for alts, but I'm currently only commenting on the technical limitations) is that its well, impossible.
I'd like to see someone come up with a method that didn't result in one or all of the following:
1) Removal of GTCs 2) Banning of any family member or roomate that makes use of the same IP to play 3) Parents unable to pay for Child / Spouse account with the same credit card
or: if you meant simply 1 character per account:
1) Cries of injustice from those who can't afford two
Easier solution; Step 1) if someone's alt is harrassing you, report it. Step 2) If the GMs do nothing; its not harrassment. in which case: Step 3) turn around and punch them in the mouth. Too Many of them? Step 4) Get some friends Still doesn't work: Step 5) Give me your stuff 
Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
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Miki Fin
Gallente Independant Union of Rangers
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Posted - 2008.01.09 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: Victor Forge No, but make it possible to see all alts of a poster in forums. Then posters will have to stand for their posts instead of hiding behind alts.
In game there is no better or more available Scout than a completly untrained alt with no implants in a starter ship. It is simply not worth the ammo to kill.
As long as we do the same ingame too.
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Big Edward
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.01.09 21:15:00 -
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This is a topic, like perma death, that gets resurrected 1) everytime a new game goes into development, 2) every so often when people get frustrated with various aspects of a game and need something to blame it on.
I've played in places that only allowed one character. Actually, I played on a private UO server that not only had a one character limit but implemented permanent death.
I think SWG also had a one character limit, at least in the early days, but they had multiple servers, you could make new characters on other servers.
The biggest problem is not being about to try out new things, new races, etc. Creating alts is the game for some people, it was damm near a skill tree in CoH. The differences in EVE between various types is small so it could probably be done without too much pain but it sure is nice to put on a new skin and go hide occasionally.
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Estephania
Independent Political Analysts
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Posted - 2008.01.09 21:17:00 -
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At the later stages this game is built on alts. Play it for 2 years and you will understand that the code name for Eve is "alts online". How do you think all those guys with pirate implants and uber T2 ships are financing their PvP activity?
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Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.01.09 21:33:00 -
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Edited by: Andrue on 09/01/2008 21:34:36
Originally by: Estephania At the later stages this game is built on alts. Play it for 2 years and you will understand that the code name for Eve is "alts online". How do you think all those guys with pirate implants and uber T2 ships are financing their PvP activity?
If they are financing with 'alts' in the truest sense of the word they are gimping their primary. You can only train one char per account.
More likely those people have multiple accounts in which case they are paying for the privilege. Using multiple accounts that way probably means only playing one at once. In that case CCP is getting extra money without their infrastruture being under extra load. I pay for two accounts but almost never play both at once so I end up paying double the subscription for the same amount of time spent on the server.
If people couldn't fund a PvP life with a PvE life they wouldn't PvP as much. Using another char to fund your PvP life is good for the game. -- (Battle hardened industrialist)
[Brackley, UK]
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Ulstan
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Posted - 2008.01.09 21:33:00 -
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Banning alts won't work, people will just use multiple accounts.
And there's no feasible way to ban multiple accounts, and no game company wishes to sabotage their earnings enough to try ;P
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Cheyenne Shadowborn
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.01.09 21:40:00 -
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Originally by: Pwett Can we just keep the right alt? I hardly ever use the left one!
No. Cause thats alt gr - presumably thats the griefer alt the OP whines about  --
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Vansard
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Posted - 2008.01.09 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: Vaari I think it is time to close the ability to create alternative characters. They are constantly pain and are used to haras others. I see them nothing but nuisance. This game would be much better without them. I demand that next patch will eliminate all existing alts and prevent their creation.
Yes! yes! yes!
That would be the best move to do. No more hauling alts, trading alts, production & mining alts, science alts, scam alts, pirate alts, recon alts, social alts, etc... . You all keep whining Eve is overcrowded - is mainly overcrowded by alts, multiple accounts & mutiple accounts alts. I'm sure it would only make the game better.
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2008.01.09 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Valrandir
Originally by: Vaari I think it is time to close the ability to create alternative characters. They are constantly pain and are used to haras others. I see them nothing but nuisance. This game would be much better without them. I demand that next patch will eliminate all existing alts and prevent their creation.
Yes
1- Warn that in 6 months all alts will be terminated and each account will only hold one character. 2- In 6 months, do it.
3- In another 3 months fix the people who had their mains deleted instead. Explain it was an error in the SQL. ---- Anything less is wasted effort |

Battleclash
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Posted - 2008.01.09 21:50:00 -
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I have a dream my brothers and sisters! I have a dream that one day, alts and mains alike, will live together in peace and harmony on this world. Yes, I have a dream that one day no character shall be thought of as a lesser man because he is called an alt. Now I ask you my brothers and sisters, do you see this dream as I do hallelujah!?
Originally by: Vladimir Ilych Stupidity is universal.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.01.09 21:52:00 -
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Define Alt. -
DesuSigs |

Malcanis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.09 21:54:00 -
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Originally by: Vaari I think it is time to close the ability to create alternative characters. They are constantly pain and are used to haras others. I see them nothing but nuisance. This game would be much better without them. I demand that next patch will eliminate all existing alts and prevent their creation.
Leave my alts alone you nasty man!
I have a cyno alt and a scouting alt, and I apologise for neither. Your problem is not with alts but the people behind them.
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |

Dunedon
Ansillon Industries
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Posted - 2008.01.09 21:56:00 -
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How about you keep alts, but make them truely alternate CHARACTERS, not cannon fodder, forum *****s or scam/suicide bait.
Make it so no character on a single account can have more than 50% of the total SP of the account, would force those that want to play differant characters to split their training (which they would have to do anyway to have playable characters) ... and would make it difficult to impossible for people to create "useless" alts, without paying for it by reduced training on their main.
Just a suggestion that allows alts, but I think reduces some of the headaches associated with their misuse.
- Dunedon ------ WYSIWYG: I don't post with an Alt ... if I die in game for having an opinion, at least I know someone listened. - Dunedon |

Turin
Caldari Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.09 22:00:00 -
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Originally by: Dunedon Edited by: Dunedon on 09/01/2008 21:57:56 How about you keep alts, but make them truely alternate CHARACTERS, not cannon fodder, forum *****s or scam/suicide bait.
Make it so no character on a single account can have more than 50% of the total SP of the account, would force those that want to play differant characters to split their training (which they would have to do anyway to have playable characters) ... and would make it difficult to impossible for people to create "useless" alts, without paying for it by reduced training on their main.
Just a suggestion that allows alts, but I think reduces some of the headaches associated with their misuse.
Edit: And to Crumplecorn's point ... I'm defining alt here as a secondary (or tertiary) character on a single account ... I have zero problem with people paying for more than one account to play multiple characters simultaniously.
- Dunedon
This wouldnt really work. If for example, you had two character, and you wanted to train one to be a RECON specialist, and the other a cap ship pilot. The cap ship pilot would take FAR FAR more skills to train, and so you would have to spend at least twice the time training garbage skills on your other characters so that you could just get your cap ship training in.
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Uchuu
Prophets Of a Damned Universe
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Posted - 2008.01.09 22:08:00 -
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I suggest CCP figure out a way to be able to control multiple accounts/chars simultaneously on one client, like an RTS.
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Vansard
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Posted - 2008.01.09 22:21:00 -
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Originally by: Dunedon Edited by: Dunedon on 09/01/2008 21:57:56 How about you keep alts, but make them truely alternate CHARACTERS, not cannon fodder, forum *****s or scam/suicide bait. ...
I was thinking about some kind of punishment for intesive char swapping. This would be something connected to skill training too. It could work the following way: if you swap char, the char you left has skill training stopped, and has a 24h timer before he can skill train again. It would block pretty well those that uses alts on a daily basis, but still make alts valid as a way to experience with other gameplay approach.
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Malcanis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.09 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: Vansard
Originally by: Dunedon Edited by: Dunedon on 09/01/2008 21:57:56 How about you keep alts, but make them truely alternate CHARACTERS, not cannon fodder, forum *****s or scam/suicide bait. ...
I was thinking about some kind of punishment for intesive char swapping. This would be something connected to skill training too. It could work the following way: if you swap char, the char you left has skill training stopped, and has a 24h timer before he can skill train again. It would block pretty well those that uses alts on a daily basis, but still make alts valid as a way to experience with other gameplay approach.
Hey, thanks. What about those of us that don't use our alts to smack-post, grief or generally be ass holes?
See if you can find someone that will claim I have ever done those things, let alone metagamed, scammed, broken a 1v1, etc etc etc.
Why should I be punished?
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |

Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.01.09 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Uchuu I suggest CCP figure out a way to be able to control multiple accounts/chars simultaneously on one client, like an RTS.
Yes because the overview isn't clogged up enough already.
About the only real complaint I can see is using alts to infiltrate your enemys corp and spy on him. The current system makes this ridiculously easy if you have even the smallest scrap of brain matter floating around in your head.
Originally by: Richard Phallus
Come live with the common idiot, it's more fun down here.
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Akane Miyamoto
Paisti Paisti Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.01.09 22:53:00 -
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I see Vaari finally got sick of alts corp thiefing IPHAR. To be honest removing alts let alone preventing their creation (Which is impossible because you can just make a new account.. Oh wait, most people already use alts on separate accounts!) is ridiculous.
I think it's time you tighten your grib on member processing and start ruling your corp with more cruel methods, you're amarr after all aren't you? ;)
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The Miyamotos, Chaper #1
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2008.01.09 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Hey, thanks. What about those of us that don't use our alts to smack-post, grief or generally be ass holes?
See if you can find someone that will claim I have ever done those things, let alone metagamed, scammed, broken a 1v1, etc etc etc.
Why should I be punished?
Or me... I do all that with my main... my alt just sells the goods and has no idea where they came from 
Originally by: Tarminic
Okay, that's it. You are on the KOS list, and you better pray that I don't have access to a locater agent. 
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Pendana Mider
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Posted - 2008.01.09 23:00:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Uchuu I suggest CCP figure out a way to be able to control multiple accounts/chars simultaneously on one client, like an RTS.
Yes because the overview isn't clogged up enough already.
About the only real complaint I can see is using alts to infiltrate your enemys corp and spy on him. The current system makes this ridiculously easy if you have even the smallest scrap of brain matter floating around in your head.
Don't let anyone join your corp then?
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Seeker Khan
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Posted - 2008.01.09 23:03:00 -
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I am an alt and I like being an alt.
I know its early, but you lead the award for
"Damn Stupid Idea Of 2008"
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