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Bawlduke	Posted - 2004.12.22 18:04:00 - [121] to say Eve is running on linux, when it is being emulated via a third party application, on linux, is the same as me claiming I can run linux on windows when it is actualy in VM-ware... To run on an OS, the game would have to be ported to work on that OS. If an application is used to get Eve (or any other app) to run 'in' an OS, then emulation is the issue. Ask the creators of the emulator, not CCP for support, since it is their code that caues the problem. "it's like Hee Haw in space..."
Maveric7911	Posted - 2004.12.22 18:05:00 - [122] Edited by: Maveric7911 on 22/12/2004 18:09:24 well if you knew anything about cedega you would know its not a emulator. and on a second note this is a problem that many "windows" users have as well go read the forums then speak.
Maveric7911	Posted - 2004.12.22 18:05:00 - [123] Edited by: Maveric7911 on 22/12/2004 18:09:24 well if you knew anything about cedega you would know its not a emulator. and on a second note this is a problem that many "windows" users have as well go read the forums then speak.
Bawlduke	Posted - 2004.12.22 18:16:00 - [124] Originally by: Maveric7911 Edited by: Maveric7911 on 22/12/2004 18:09:24 well if you knew anything about cedega you would know its not a emulator. and on a second note this is a problem that many "windows" users have as well go read the forums then speak. Is Eve ported to Linux? (no) Does the 'tool' run 'in' linux and give the user the ability to run a Windows application within the 'tool' that is running 'in' Linux? (yes) By definition, that is an emulator. I can call a car, a "multiwheeled utility device for transportation", but it is still a car... "it's like Hee Haw in space..."
Bawlduke	Posted - 2004.12.22 18:16:00 - [125] Originally by: Maveric7911 Edited by: Maveric7911 on 22/12/2004 18:09:24 well if you knew anything about cedega you would know its not a emulator. and on a second note this is a problem that many "windows" users have as well go read the forums then speak. Is Eve ported to Linux? (no) Does the 'tool' run 'in' linux and give the user the ability to run a Windows application within the 'tool' that is running 'in' Linux? (yes) By definition, that is an emulator. I can call a car, a "multiwheeled utility device for transportation", but it is still a car... "it's like Hee Haw in space..."
Maveric7911	Posted - 2004.12.22 18:26:00 - [126] Edited by: Maveric7911 on 22/12/2004 18:27:32 Does the 'tool' run 'in' linux and give the user the ability to run a Windows application within the 'tool' that is running 'in' Linux? (yes) You really are dumb arn't you. You have no clue what the "tool" does or how it works. An emulator creates a full enviroment of what you are tring to emulate "ie vmware or nes eviroments". Cedega how ever does not create this full enviroment, it brings in partial amounts of the windows system that is needed by games in order to run. Ie dx and a few other dll's.The game is still running under the native linux enviroment but once again in terms you can understand it has pointers to the areas of windows that it actually requires. Once again maybe you should go read and learn how things really work before you speak about things you don't have the slightest clue about. Now back to my orginal note as I said before this error I get is also the same exact error many windows users get, once again read the forums. So I was asking in this thread since their are linux users reading it to see if any of them are having this problem or have had this problem. Thanks
Maveric7911	Posted - 2004.12.22 18:26:00 - [127] Edited by: Maveric7911 on 22/12/2004 18:27:32 Does the 'tool' run 'in' linux and give the user the ability to run a Windows application within the 'tool' that is running 'in' Linux? (yes) You really are dumb arn't you. You have no clue what the "tool" does or how it works. An emulator creates a full enviroment of what you are tring to emulate "ie vmware or nes eviroments". Cedega how ever does not create this full enviroment, it brings in partial amounts of the windows system that is needed by games in order to run. Ie dx and a few other dll's.The game is still running under the native linux enviroment but once again in terms you can understand it has pointers to the areas of windows that it actually requires. Once again maybe you should go read and learn how things really work before you speak about things you don't have the slightest clue about. Now back to my orginal note as I said before this error I get is also the same exact error many windows users get, once again read the forums. So I was asking in this thread since their are linux users reading it to see if any of them are having this problem or have had this problem. Thanks
Famine Aligher'ri	Posted - 2004.12.25 07:05:00 - [128] Originally by: Cortex Reaver Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri That's like me saying "Wow Linux has alot of usless daemons running by default" or something. I don't think I would ever pay for unix or linux (Lives 5 blocks from Redhat Linux). I think I keep in the same spirit of it always being free like unix was intended. Till some corp ****s decided to make it more than what it was to better there pockets/popularity. -Famine P.S Fuse, Mac's don't suck... You suck my friend... Actually, UNIX was originally a commercial product by Bell Labs of AT&T. Bell Labs made it freely available to educational institutions for a short time, then terminated this free license. This license termination is what prompted the development of the BSD branch of operations systems. Oh, but wait. . . you already know that 'cause you're a know-it-all linux guy telling us how the world is run. -CR Keyword "Was" and now will be always. No im not a know it all "Linux" guy. Don't think I even mentioned that in my post. Just pointing out to the guy (Funny) named "Subseven". Also wanted to point out the word "Branch". New "Branchs" with new "People" makes a new "Meaning". Get my drift or do I need to spell it out for you even more? -Famine Aligher'ri Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri -The Frig-
Famine Aligher'ri	Posted - 2004.12.25 07:05:00 - [129] Originally by: Cortex Reaver Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri That's like me saying "Wow Linux has alot of usless daemons running by default" or something. I don't think I would ever pay for unix or linux (Lives 5 blocks from Redhat Linux). I think I keep in the same spirit of it always being free like unix was intended. Till some corp ****s decided to make it more than what it was to better there pockets/popularity. -Famine P.S Fuse, Mac's don't suck... You suck my friend... Actually, UNIX was originally a commercial product by Bell Labs of AT&T. Bell Labs made it freely available to educational institutions for a short time, then terminated this free license. This license termination is what prompted the development of the BSD branch of operations systems. Oh, but wait. . . you already know that 'cause you're a know-it-all linux guy telling us how the world is run. -CR Keyword "Was" and now will be always. No im not a know it all "Linux" guy. Don't think I even mentioned that in my post. Just pointing out to the guy (Funny) named "Subseven". Also wanted to point out the word "Branch". New "Branchs" with new "People" makes a new "Meaning". Get my drift or do I need to spell it out for you even more? -Famine Aligher'ri Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri -The Frig-
The Burninator	Posted - 2004.12.31 01:26:00 - [130] Originally by: Poldi45 Hi, everything works perfectly fine for me: - i have a perfect mouse - it runs smooth - sounds fine too except for one problem that makes the game unplayable: It seems, that the client is unable to add new stuff to the cache?!?! everytime i get to something new the client crashes, if i start the game on a windows machine and copy over the cahe of the particular thing it works. quite anoying (especially for the guy with the windows machine). Ah one more thing: the game crashes when i try to look at a stargate, but that might also be cause by the cache, dunno. flying to it while not looking at it works tho :))) can anybody help? specs r: Athlon 2500+ MSI Nvidia fx5900XT with driver ver. 6629(latest so far) cedega 4.2 transgaming binary version(no cvs) all that on at up to date Fedora Core 3 system(kde 3.3) (lots of 3rd party stuff like ATRPMS in it). I use the "prefs.ini" someone postet in this forum earlier. maybe someone who has most of the stuff in his cache already can upload it and post the link here, so the linux people can play :) PS: Dont tell me to use windows as i dont have it and cannot install it on the machine. You could try this, go into your config and set your working directory to wherever eve is. At that point it should be able to write to the directory no problem....i think :P I've been trying to get this to work for a day now, and with the latest patch. The game doesn't even load for me. I dont know, i could have some setting wrong or something, tried it one Cedega 4.2 and 4.11 and a buncha others :P still doesn't like it. It just kinda looks like its going to start up then stops. Anyone got any ideas?? ---------------- BDCI Website - We solve problems.
The Burninator	Posted - 2004.12.31 01:26:00 - [131] Originally by: Poldi45 Hi, everything works perfectly fine for me: - i have a perfect mouse - it runs smooth - sounds fine too except for one problem that makes the game unplayable: It seems, that the client is unable to add new stuff to the cache?!?! everytime i get to something new the client crashes, if i start the game on a windows machine and copy over the cahe of the particular thing it works. quite anoying (especially for the guy with the windows machine). Ah one more thing: the game crashes when i try to look at a stargate, but that might also be cause by the cache, dunno. flying to it while not looking at it works tho :))) can anybody help? specs r: Athlon 2500+ MSI Nvidia fx5900XT with driver ver. 6629(latest so far) cedega 4.2 transgaming binary version(no cvs) all that on at up to date Fedora Core 3 system(kde 3.3) (lots of 3rd party stuff like ATRPMS in it). I use the "prefs.ini" someone postet in this forum earlier. maybe someone who has most of the stuff in his cache already can upload it and post the link here, so the linux people can play :) PS: Dont tell me to use windows as i dont have it and cannot install it on the machine. You could try this, go into your config and set your working directory to wherever eve is. At that point it should be able to write to the directory no problem....i think :P I've been trying to get this to work for a day now, and with the latest patch. The game doesn't even load for me. I dont know, i could have some setting wrong or something, tried it one Cedega 4.2 and 4.11 and a buncha others :P still doesn't like it. It just kinda looks like its going to start up then stops. Anyone got any ideas?? ---------------- BDCI Website - We solve problems.
The Burninator	Posted - 2004.12.31 08:51:00 - [132] Upon further investigation my problem lied within point2play, as soon as I went to launch eve with the cedega eve.exe command, it worked flawlessly, up until it tried to load the character portraits at which point it crashes :P ---------------- BDCI Website - We solve problems.
The Burninator	Posted - 2004.12.31 08:51:00 - [133] Upon further investigation my problem lied within point2play, as soon as I went to launch eve with the cedega eve.exe command, it worked flawlessly, up until it tried to load the character portraits at which point it crashes :P ---------------- BDCI Website - We solve problems.
The Burninator	Posted - 2004.12.31 08:53:00 - [134] Originally by: Maveric7911 Edited by: Maveric7911 on 22/12/2004 17:12:01 every time I try to run the game in cedega I get this error. 1 : blue.BluePyOS: InitBasicModuleSupport() failed 0 : blue.BluePyOS: Unhandled Python exception: BluePyOS::PyError() AttributeError: 'stackless.module' object has no attribute '_extension_registry'[ Any thoughts? I have tried fresh installs from both 3106.exe and 3007.exe as well as just the folder from my windows drive I get the same error with all of these. This sounds like something to do with Python, probably not up to date or a version that is not supported. ---------------- BDCI Website - We solve problems.
The Burninator	Posted - 2004.12.31 08:53:00 - [135] Originally by: Maveric7911 Edited by: Maveric7911 on 22/12/2004 17:12:01 every time I try to run the game in cedega I get this error. 1 : blue.BluePyOS: InitBasicModuleSupport() failed 0 : blue.BluePyOS: Unhandled Python exception: BluePyOS::PyError() AttributeError: 'stackless.module' object has no attribute '_extension_registry'[ Any thoughts? I have tried fresh installs from both 3106.exe and 3007.exe as well as just the folder from my windows drive I get the same error with all of these. This sounds like something to do with Python, probably not up to date or a version that is not supported. ---------------- BDCI Website - We solve problems.
Maveric7911	Posted - 2005.01.07 16:34:00 - [136] Originally by: The Burninator Originally by: Maveric7911 Edited by: Maveric7911 on 22/12/2004 17:12:01 every time I try to run the game in cedega I get this error. 1 : blue.BluePyOS: InitBasicModuleSupport() failed 0 : blue.BluePyOS: Unhandled Python exception: BluePyOS::PyError() AttributeError: 'stackless.module' object has no attribute '_extension_registry'[ Any thoughts? I have tried fresh installs from both 3106.exe and 3007.exe as well as just the folder from my windows drive I get the same error with all of these. This sounds like something to do with Python, probably not up to date or a version that is not supported. Ya thats possible I know a few others who get this. I know my python is up to date I am thinking it may just not be supported.
Maveric7911	Posted - 2005.01.07 17:10:00 - [137] cedega eve.exe root@SonicBoom EVE]# 0x900022ec:1: Event manual=1 signaled=0 name="" 0x90008eb0:1: Thread 0002 unix tid=3512 teb=0xa7fe8d60 state=1 process=0001 0x900022bc:1: Token owned by 0x90008dec 0x90008dec:1: Process 0001 next=(nil) prev=(nil) handles=(nil) Well I now get to the splash screen but I get this anyone got any ideas? The splash screen comes up and then disapears and I get nothing.
Strongbow	Posted - 2005.01.07 18:24:00 - [138] Edited by: Strongbow on 07/01/2005 20:44:31 Does anyone reading this thred have a copy of the eve mouse fix mentioned it this Thread I now have EvE running under Linux but am having the problem with the curser that makes the game very hard to play at present, ok for chatting and checking skills etc. Maveric7911: we must stop meeting like this, people will start to talk :D, wish i could help you with your problem
Claude Emaipart	Posted - 2005.01.07 19:11:00 - [139] Edited by: Claude Emaipart on 07/01/2005 19:24:04 Originally by: Maveric7911 Edited by: Maveric7911 on 22/12/2004 18:27:32 Does the 'tool' run 'in' linux and give the user the ability to run a Windows application within the 'tool' that is running 'in' Linux? (yes) You really are dumb arn't you. You have no clue what the "tool" does or how it works. An emulator creates a full enviroment of what you are tring to emulate "ie vmware or nes eviroments". Cedega how ever does not create this full enviroment, it brings in partial amounts of the windows system that is needed by games in order to run. Ie dx and a few other dll's.The game is still running under the native linux enviroment but once again in terms you can understand it has pointers to the areas of windows that it actually requires. Once again maybe you should go read and learn how things really work before you speak about things you don't have the slightest clue about. Now back to my orginal note as I said before this error I get is also the same exact error many windows users get, once again read the forums. So I was asking in this thread since their are linux users reading it to see if any of them are having this problem or have had this problem. Thanks If it is not ported to run as a native application, and uses anything to emulate the environment needed, it is an emulator, or at least an emulation tool. If the application is ported, it is running as a native application. Emulation is not only about the hardware, it can and is often (gasp) to emulate a software environment (omg). Imagine that...software that creates an environment that an application can run 'in' while using an OS that can not run the application in its native form. Get out of the Linux zealot ms-hater mode, and face reality. He was correct, you are biased, and the tools used to run any Windows application in Linux are emulation environments. As far as your insulting the guy, that is very immature. Your argument was moot after that (who wants to read childish insults). From what the DEV's of Eve have posted, they may port the code, and I like that. Linux is a great OS, and Eve would be a great addition to its appeal. Until then, I just run the program under it's native OS. Simple.
Fer Blanc	Posted - 2005.01.18 02:16:00 - [140] 1 : blue.BluePyOS: InitBasicModuleSupport() failed 0 : blue.BluePyOS: Unhandled Python exception: BluePyOS::PyError() AttributeError: 'stackless.module' object has no attribute '_extension_registry'[ if you are getting that, then you are probably running through Point2Play which is borked. install cedega normally and run the exe.exe file by hand, then it works perfect (except for that mouse thing) -- fer
Fuse	Posted - 2005.01.18 04:14:00 - [141] Originally by: Fer Blanc 1 : blue.BluePyOS: InitBasicModuleSupport() failed 0 : blue.BluePyOS: Unhandled Python exception: BluePyOS::PyError() AttributeError: 'stackless.module' object has no attribute '_extension_registry'[ if you are getting that, then you are probably running through Point2Play which is borked. install cedega normally and run the exe.exe file by hand, then it works perfect (except for that mouse thing) Honestly, I don't feel like paying $5 per month to get a half a$$ runing game I would rather just install Windows 2000 clean on a second partition to run eve. 0.o It's not you... no wait it is you.
Attrezzo Pox	Posted - 2005.03.16 18:46:00 - [142] Originally by: Cortex Reaver Edited by: Cortex Reaver on 18/05/2004 18:43:12 Drop the anti-Microsoft j!had. It's not becoming and quite frankly, makes you look like a fool to anyone with any real technical saavy. The ability to install the Linux Distro du jour, doesn't make you "1337." Infact, the browsing statistics collected on /. basically prove that the average Linux zealot actually runs Windows with a picture of Tux as their wallpaper. I'm all for multi-platform clients. Infact, my primary OS at home and my preffered OS for most tasks is FreeBSD. My favorite OS, however, is the one that's right for the job. Argue with that! The real problem in going forward with a viable multi-platform game client is the lack of a decent graphics API. OpenGL filled the role for a long time, but the world has really passed it by. It simply can't handle the lighting and shading features today's gamers demand. Even Id Software (John Carmack), a long time OpenGL devotee has recognized this. The engine for Doom III will be an OpenGL/DirectX-9 hybrid in order to achieve the desired effect. If your time is so useless, that you wanna waste it trying to get DirectX working under Wine, then go for it. My freetime is in short supply and valuable, therefore I'd rather spend it playing EVE on a stable platform, and by your own admission, EVE under Wine is far from stable. I want to add that since the game has gone retail, I've had exactly ONE CTD on my XP box. The stability of any platform really has more to do with the skill of the person administering the box than the avocacy ji!had that its owner is on. -CR Your mortal enemy installed gentoo stage 1, and you're jealous aren't you? It's ok man. You forget that it's people like the ones that posted in this forum that got everything in linux to work. People who wanted it to work because they could make it work. The same kind of people that make FreeBSD. If everyone just used the OS that was "right for the job" then we'd all still be running on unix or OS X. (though it would look different I bet if no one ever decided to make a competitive OS). Because those were first, so seeing as everyone would theoretically make software for the right OS for the job those would always be the ones people turned to. Get a life man. This forum is about fixing those problems in Linux us Linux users would appriciate. Sure there are some unrealistic posts about a linux client but we've all managed to ignore those, the least you could do if it bothers you so much is grow up and just skip the troll opporitunity.
Attrezzo Pox	Posted - 2005.03.16 19:00:00 - [143] For those of you that have gotten eve to work in linux could you help me out. I need some clues. do you guys find that copying the install from windows works better than useing the install in point2play. btw I'm currently running cedega 4.3 I've heard it's supposed to work best in that. I keep getting errors though when it runs, and I've been clued by one of the devs that "the Python error could possibly be solved be reinstalling the game to a different location using the full client build". It's a python error in blue.dll. Everytime I start the game it pops open a window and then crashs the winex logs aren't helpful but I get this from the eve client #errors b321 2005.03.15 22.42.14.txt File created 2005.03.15 22:42:14 1 : blue.BluePyOS: Unhandled Python exception: BluePyOS::PyError() AttributeError: 'stackless.module' object has no attribute '_extension_registry'0 : blue.BluePyOS: InitBasicModuleSupport() failed if anyone's got an idea. I'm certain anything would help
Attrezzo Pox	Posted - 2005.03.16 19:06:00 - [144] Originally by: Maveric7911 cedega eve.exe root@SonicBoom EVE]# 0x900022ec:1: Event manual=1 signaled=0 name="" 0x90008eb0:1: Thread 0002 unix tid=3512 teb=0xa7fe8d60 state=1 process=0001 0x900022bc:1: Token owned by 0x90008dec 0x90008dec:1: Process 0001 next=(nil) prev=(nil) handles=(nil) Well I now get to the splash screen but I get this anyone got any ideas? The splash screen comes up and then disapears and I get nothing. Wait wait wait... how'd you get the python errors worked out?
Attrezzo Pox	Posted - 2005.03.16 19:07:00 - [145] Originally by: Fer Blanc 1 : blue.BluePyOS: InitBasicModuleSupport() failed 0 : blue.BluePyOS: Unhandled Python exception: BluePyOS::PyError() AttributeError: 'stackless.module' object has no attribute '_extension_registry'[ if you are getting that, then you are probably running through Point2Play which is borked. install cedega normally and run the exe.exe file by hand, then it works perfect (except for that mouse thing) Nice I'll try it out. Sorry I posted before getting to that page.
Ticondrius	Posted - 2005.03.16 19:42:00 - [146] Edited by: Ticondrius on 16/03/2005 19:46:40 Someone had sorted out the mouse poitner issue once I'd thought. w2ish I could find the post. GODDAMNIT CCP! GIVE US A FORUM SEARCH! Is it THAT hard? (No...) Anyway...Haven't tried Winex lately. Any luck? The big problem with the white screens is the DX9 shaders AFAIK. WineX doesn't support them yet. TomB, if there was a way to disable some of the advanced DX9 stuff in the prefs.ini file, that's go a very long way to letting us run EVE in Linux. Ok, this interested me greatly, is this a REAL SS, or is something pulling our collective leg? Piccy "If I'm brutally honest and it offends you, that's not my fault." (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Dionysus Davinci	Posted - 2005.03.16 20:28:00 - [147] Interesting, but you would have to be a fool to trust it in pvp.
Elissen	Posted - 2005.03.16 20:28:00 - [148] A month ago or so I tried it with a friend to get it going under Linux (HL-2 ran very smooth on his box under linux). We got to the character selection screen when it crahsed, and I think at the point where it renders the portraits. Beats the previous time when we tried; the installer didn't even run back then
rowbin hod	Posted - 2005.03.16 20:47:00 - [149] Originally by: Elissen A month ago or so I tried it with a friend to get it going under Linux (HL-2 ran very smooth on his box under linux). We got to the character selection screen when it crahsed, and I think at the point where it renders the portraits. People have mentioned this before. Under linux eve seems unable to render cahrshots at all. One solution people cam up with was to make sure you copy your cache over so that all the little piccies are already available. --- "Due to the European lard shortage, we are currently unable to supply this product."
aeti	Posted - 2005.03.16 21:06:00 - [150] Originally by: Ticondrius Ok, this interested me greatly, is this a REAL SS, or is something pulling our collective leg? Piccy very much real it works fine now, and I have flown around and shot ppl etc with it

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