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KIAHicks
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Posted - 2004.03.21 14:15:00 -
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As I type this, I'm logged in and chatting away in eve from, shock horror, linux :)
Major pain to get it to work, but for those who are intrested... grab the pthreaded cvs version of winex. Install eve using winex then edit the eve prefs.ini file and set the alphagain to 1 and full screen to 0 and widescreen to 0. When you then run eve.exe with cvswine it will load as a flat white screen. You have to know where to click on the user/pass word boxes to login, but once you've done that everything works :)
Well, ok so still a few probs, ie can't get the mouse cursor to show :( and the window borders are white (including menu). but it does mean you can login and chat while your busy doing things in linux.. and if your needed always reboot to windows to help out :)
Over time the suport should get better as well, so long as ccp don't use too many more of the directx 9 options :(
Keenon: "After sitting in the system for FIVE hours without even a (go away)"...
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KIAHicks
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Posted - 2004.03.21 14:17:00 -
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btw if anyone finds out why the login screen is flat white and can solve that problem give me a shout as that will probably be why the main windows when playing are white.. If we can resolve that then I can play eve in linux properly, rather than just training skills/chatting :)
Keenon: "After sitting in the system for FIVE hours without even a (go away)"...
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.03.21 14:20:00 -
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Awesome work Hicks, now if I only can find an half decent computer 
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Lao Tzu
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Posted - 2004.03.21 15:43:00 -
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Roxor, time to get my Gentoo partion back in use
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2004.03.21 18:04:00 -
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I would LOVE to see a CCP released EVE client for Linux. It's what the servers run on from what I understand, I would think it would be a natural extension of that development.
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AlCapone
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Posted - 2004.03.21 19:16:00 -
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Great job KIAHicks.
do you can play without any bigger Probs?? Do PvP and Mining ?
If yes I can go and definitly kill WINSUCKS on my box.
Thanxs
AlCapone
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2004.03.21 19:24:00 -
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I would LOVE to see a CCP released EVE client for Linux. It's what the servers run on from what I understand, I would think it would be a natural extension of that development.
Actually, the servers run windows.
Hicks, great news & job though, I'm gonna save a few gigs for my gentoo partitions when I get my new HDD tomorrow.
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haggis
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Posted - 2004.03.21 19:54:00 -
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I would LOVE to see a CCP released EVE client for Linux. It's what the servers run on from what I understand, I would think it would be a natural extension of that development.
I'd rather them go for a variety of unix systems, or do it so that it would be easy to port to other unixes, that way they could tap into that mac user base... I have a mac, and only just built my pc, and whilst owning that mac, I know I would jump at the opportunity to play a mmorpg, so they should be able to get quite a few players from doing that...
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KIAHicks
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Posted - 2004.03.21 20:14:00 -
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atm I'm just using it to log in and chat etc while doing other stuff. Only reason I have windows installed is eve and cod, everything else I do in linux. I wouldn't dare to mine/pvp with it running in linux atm though, not until the directx 9 support improves.
Still at least its possible to keep an eye on whats happening whilst working :)
Keenon: "After sitting in the system for FIVE hours without even a (go away)"...
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IZON
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Posted - 2004.03.21 20:18:00 -
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w00t! now that's a research breakthrough 
"...master! there's a guy in the south village called IZON, he is a Ninja!" |
Jolo
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Posted - 2004.03.21 20:19:00 -
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The servers and clients are totally different. If they server even ran on a unix platform, that doesn't mean it's easy to port the client to unix.
The more and more we use DX9, the less and less you will see unix clients.
If you want to bother someone about it. Bother the WineX dev team to make the directX9 implimentation perfect.
It comes down to the old argument:
Why spend money, time, effort, resources on developing AND maintaining a client for ~1% of the user base. It doesn't make sense really.
Your best bet is to bug wineX or join thier mail list and contribute somehow.
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AlCapone
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Posted - 2004.03.21 21:24:00 -
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Jolo, yes 1% is not much and I would like to see a vote for that so that ccp could see how many people would like it and if we get 20-30% we would defnitly have a better chance.
And yes they should think about a Mac version too, since not many mmorpg`s are out for it and i think 1-2k more users would be possible for them.
So maybe CCP should think of a vote for Linux and Mac and see how many players would like to have it.
And they only need to make a nativ unix version which will run under every Distri wihtout big problems
cya
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Neslo
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Posted - 2004.03.21 22:31:00 -
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nice job hicks!
hmmm eve research agent hicks... I can see it now!
From Ashes to Ashes... From Dust to Dust....
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Jolo
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Posted - 2004.03.21 22:47:00 -
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Jolo, yes 1% is not much and I would like to see a vote for that so that ccp could see how many people would like it and if we get 20-30% we would defnitly have a better chance.
And yes they should think about a Mac version too, since not many mmorpg`s are out for it and i think 1-2k more users would be possible for them.
So maybe CCP should think of a vote for Linux and Mac and see how many players would like to have it.
And they only need to make a nativ unix version which will run under every Distri wihtout big problems
cya
There are many problems with supporting other formats.
*You have to hire new customer service representatives and TRAIN THEM to understand how to support mac/unix versions.
*Linux has at least 10 major (and 100+ minor) distro's. You would have to TRAIN staff to support EVERY one. Also, you'd have to train them how to handle problems with linux installs. Because a lot of people who use linux, SHOULDNT be using it and don't know what's really going on. The tech support would have to know how to fix peoples gtk installs, or all that junk.
It would be a disaster for CCP to try and attempt a UNIX client now. That's just my 2 bits.
It would be fesasble if they hired a third party developer to do it who has the C.S. infrastructure to handle the unix questions and developers who can do DX9 stuff. Same goes for MAC.
Anyway. I have using unix for almost 10 years.
But i'd never want a unix game client. Unix is for the server land. I'm still waiting to be impressed by a desktop unix.
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haggis
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Posted - 2004.03.21 23:42:00 -
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Quote:
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Jolo, yes 1% is not much and I would like to see a vote for that so that ccp could see how many people would like it and if we get 20-30% we would defnitly have a better chance.
And yes they should think about a Mac version too, since not many mmorpg`s are out for it and i think 1-2k more users would be possible for them.
So maybe CCP should think of a vote for Linux and Mac and see how many players would like to have it.
And they only need to make a nativ unix version which will run under every Distri wihtout big problems
cya
There are many problems with supporting other formats.
*You have to hire new customer service representatives and TRAIN THEM to understand how to support mac/unix versions.
*Linux has at least 10 major (and 100+ minor) distro's. You would have to TRAIN staff to support EVERY one. Also, you'd have to train them how to handle problems with linux installs. Because a lot of people who use linux, SHOULDNT be using it and don't know what's really going on. The tech support would have to know how to fix peoples gtk installs, or all that junk.
It would be a disaster for CCP to try and attempt a UNIX client now. That's just my 2 bits.
It would be fesasble if they hired a third party developer to do it who has the C.S. infrastructure to handle the unix questions and developers who can do DX9 stuff. Same goes for MAC.
Anyway. I have using unix for almost 10 years.
But i'd never want a unix game client. Unix is for the server land. I'm still waiting to be impressed by a desktop unix.
Off-topic, but, you haven't liked ANY of the window managers/desktop thingies? I quite liked KDE when I was running freeBSD.
As for the customer support, then ccp could simply just support one flavour of linux and mac OSX (because, I find, OSX is the most user-friendly OS out there, you wouldn't really need to do much customer-service training), allow customers to run it under other OSes, but explain that they are not supported.
Also, it would benefit ccp in ways other than a larger player-base, it would greatly improve their reputation, people respect companies that support unixes, and there is a rather large hardcore mac fraternity who won't stop banging on about it (a good mmorpg would be their first line of defence when it comes down to the old 'macs have no games' argument). Basically, it provides good publicity for the company, alot of people see microsoft as evil, any company that supports non-microsoft oses often gets similiar recognition to eco-friendly companies, in the eyes of many geeks, anyway.
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.03.21 23:51:00 -
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As much as I would like it, it's just not realistic. you'd have to port all of the DX9 stuff to opengl equivalent, port network code, threading, etc. Then you have sound drivers, do you wanna go oss or alsa.
Better to fix current bugs and add more stuff in Windows version, then to worry about linux one, IMHO
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Shaqan
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Posted - 2004.03.22 14:20:00 -
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So, did anyone else manage this? Getting my "EVE-pc" later this week, and it seems like I'll save some gigs for a linux install.
/me crosses his fingers
Disclaimer: above text is written to express my thoughts about this subject, and are not an attack on anybody. Spelling errors may occur frequently, and will always do, please do not comment -i know. |
Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.03.22 14:50:00 -
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This is VERY good news - I'll install gentoo asap (not today, busy with other stuff ) and try to fix the remaining problems if possible
My linux install is kind of broken atm (hardware upgrades, windows reinstalls wiping the bootsector and so on), otherwise I'd tried the cvs version of winex some time ago...
Off topic : Linux desktop stuff has come a long way. No desktop manager is perfect, and some ppl shouldn't use linux - but on the other hand, many ppl shouldn't use Windows either. There are not really that many ppl using linux that can't handle it (afaik).
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KIAHicks
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Posted - 2004.03.22 15:06:00 -
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I don't think its worth ccp looking into supporting linux really, since the devs already have the on-going task of improving the client and adding new features. IT would require a seperate team to handle porting, and that would be an additional cost, which considering those of us who would like to see a linux client already play under windows, is just not economical.
Although I'd love to see a linux client, its probably a way too much work to port the code over. However, support isn't really an issue, you'd just do what other game companies do. Provide an unsupported version for linux :)
I think in the long run we will have to wait for transgaming to improve their directx support, until then I wouldn't recommend undocking in linux :P
On another note, ut2004 is out and has a native linux installer included :)
Who knows though, 3 to 4 years down the line when eve2 comes out :) Maybe they'll include seperate clients with native support for windows, mac and linux.
Keenon: "After sitting in the system for FIVE hours without even a (go away)"...
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xor
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Posted - 2004.03.24 12:10:00 -
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awesome.. now to get it working in non-noob unix.. :) |
The Enslaver
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Posted - 2004.03.24 12:33:00 -
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Actually, the servers run windows.
That explains an incredible amount.
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Rizzler
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Posted - 2004.04.14 14:47:00 -
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KIAHicks, can you please give us your winex config file and compile options and prefs.ini file. Ive been trying getting it to work but it doesnt work, install will complain about plugins dir and a preinstalled eve will just crash without any message.
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poldi
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Posted - 2004.05.17 20:40:00 -
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Yes, id love to get that prefs.ini and config too.
I cant get it to run, it alwasy crashes either on the character creation screen, or - after i created a character on windows - the screen, where you can select the character after loggin in.
loggin in is pretty easy btw:
1. set username in prefs.ini
2. wait for the white screen
3. click into the white like 2 or 3 times
4. press enter twice
- now an error comparing about password should appear -
5. press enter again.
6. enter password
7. press enter again
and there you go .... on my machine it crashes just the moment i want to click on the character.
anybody resolved this?
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Cortex Reaver
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Posted - 2004.05.17 21:18:00 -
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I have two URLs that adequately describe you Linux dorks:
http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2003-06-30&res=l
http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2002-01-28&res=l
"I can make the game run like sh!t under Linux!"
You're my freak'n hero!
-CR
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temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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Deprave
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Posted - 2004.05.17 23:24:00 -
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supporting multiple clients wouldn't be needed if they'd used open systems platforms to start with.. any software developer that these days uses OS dependant technologies are twits.
a linux client isn't nearly as important to me as an OSX one.. I way perher to use my mac then a stinking PC.
The person saying linux would be hard to support because the the different distros obviously doesn't understand what distro's really are, linux kernel + user space apps.. they don't change the technology any.
If CCP did a poll i think they'd be supprised at the demand on other platforms.. and did you ever stop to think that the ~1% figure is only of the current userbase, obviously there are people without multiple machines using OSX that don't have a choice of playing..
I would be very tempted to move to games that support my platform for no other reason then that they actually do support it.
as for training staff hogswash, they don't support the client they've got.. that logic doesn't even come into play.. I'm yet to see someone that actaully works for ccp.
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Fuse
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Posted - 2004.05.17 23:41:00 -
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Macs suck. So does Linux when it comes to sound drivers. You damn flower smelling hippies. |
Odaroff
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Posted - 2004.05.17 23:49:00 -
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Strange, I have less problems with my SB Audigy X-Gamer under Linux than I do under Windows XP Pro.
I guess you just aren't qualified to run an operating system that requires computer knowledge.
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Trianon Starstealer
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Posted - 2004.05.18 00:24:00 -
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Edited by: Trianon Starstealer on 18/05/2004 00:26:02
I would guess that it's a framebuffer issue, but it's been a long time since I've done any graphics programming in Linux so I could be wrong. Try a different window manager, I've found some handle graphics slightly better than others.
As for those that ridicule Linux Graphics and sound......... you probably pulled an MSCE Cert off the toilet roll in the local public lav and now consider yourself an expert. If you knew what you were talking about you would know why X is a far superior and far more flexible windowing system.... as for sound..... Audigy XGamer sounds stunning in every game I've played.... there is little or no difference between the sound quality on Linux and that on Windows.
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Fuse
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Posted - 2004.05.18 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: Odaroff
Strange, I have less problems with my SB Audigy X-Gamer under Linux than I do under Windows XP Pro.
I guess you just aren't qualified to run an operating system that requires computer knowledge.
I am just pointing out that the Linux driver library is lagging. Not all vendors support Linux and that does not make it bad but allot more work.
I guess you just aren't qualified to run and operating system that my 7 year old niece can run.
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Cortex Reaver
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Posted - 2004.05.18 14:24:00 -
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Edited by: Cortex Reaver on 18/05/2004 18:43:12
Drop the anti-Microsoft j!had. It's not becoming and quite frankly, makes you look like a fool to anyone with any real technical saavy. The ability to install the Linux Distro du jour, doesn't make you "1337." Infact, the browsing statistics collected on /. basically prove that the average Linux zealot actually runs Windows with a picture of Tux as their wallpaper.
I'm all for multi-platform clients. Infact, my primary OS at home and my preffered OS for most tasks is FreeBSD. My favorite OS, however, is the one that's right for the job. Argue with that!
The real problem in going forward with a viable multi-platform game client is the lack of a decent graphics API. OpenGL filled the role for a long time, but the world has really passed it by. It simply can't handle the lighting and shading features today's gamers demand. Even Id Software (John Carmack), a long time OpenGL devotee has recognized this. The engine for Doom III will be an OpenGL/DirectX-9 hybrid in order to achieve the desired effect.
If your time is so useless, that you wanna waste it trying to get DirectX working under Wine, then go for it. My freetime is in short supply and valuable, therefore I'd rather spend it playing EVE on a stable platform, and by your own admission, EVE under Wine is far from stable.
I want to add that since the game has gone retail, I've had exactly *ONE* CTD on my XP box. The stability of any platform really has more to do with the skill of the person administering the box than the avocacy ji!had that its owner is on.
-CR
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temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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Nemesis I
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Posted - 2004.05.18 14:59:00 -
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I use linux within XP, seems to solve everything!
Still have the Spectrum - 'now entering space' (tm) program, for those who want to work on the script, to get in the extra stuff.. like ships, database, internet etc etc.
Nem
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poldi
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Posted - 2004.05.19 16:49:00 -
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Thanks for all the neat posts :) i appriciate that.
But as i read through the posts again and again a strange feeling overcame me: It seems that they didnt realy answer my question about the strange crash when trying to start EVE.
Fact for me ist: I like Linux and i work with it. In everydaywork its damn good(Im a student in computer science). I cant switch to windows cause, i must not reboot my machine for several reasons. Anyway, i wouldnt want to ...
Well, so much about the flame. Does anybody run this under linux? And would he be so kind, to help me with this?
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Moornblade
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Posted - 2004.06.13 21:04:00 -
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Hmmm...Original poster must have done something sneaky to install eve in linux. I keep getting the plugins directory can not be found.
Hmm..... Perhaps copying some native win98 dlls over will help....
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Trianon Starstealer
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Posted - 2004.06.13 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: Cortex Reaver
Edited by: Cortex Reaver on 18/05/2004 18:43:12
Drop the anti-Microsoft j!had. It's not becoming and quite frankly, makes you look like a fool to anyone with any real technical saavy. The ability to install the Linux Distro du jour, doesn't make you "1337." Infact, the browsing statistics collected on /. basically prove that the average Linux zealot actually runs Windows with a picture of Tux as their wallpaper.
I'm all for multi-platform clients. Infact, my primary OS at home and my preffered OS for most tasks is FreeBSD. My favorite OS, however, is the one that's right for the job. Argue with that!
The real problem in going forward with a viable multi-platform game client is the lack of a decent graphics API. OpenGL filled the role for a long time, but the world has really passed it by. It simply can't handle the lighting and shading features today's gamers demand. Even Id Software (John Carmack), a long time OpenGL devotee has recognized this. The engine for Doom III will be an OpenGL/DirectX-9 hybrid in order to achieve the desired effect.
If your time is so useless, that you wanna waste it trying to get DirectX working under Wine, then go for it. My freetime is in short supply and valuable, therefore I'd rather spend it playing EVE on a stable platform, and by your own admission, EVE under Wine is far from stable.
I want to add that since the game has gone retail, I've had exactly *ONE* CTD on my XP box. The stability of any platform really has more to do with the skill of the person administering the box than the avocacy ji!had that its owner is on.
-CR
You give sh|t to people who prefer to play under linux and who are willing to spend time getting it to work, and then when someone critises the overweight, bloated, bug ridden security hole that IS Windows you start crying like a jerk and claim nobody knows what they are doing and it all a plot against good old Microsoft..........
OK, I run Linux as a preferred OS and Windows as a preferred Gaming system (unless a game has a native installer for Linux in which case I would use that).
Your comments in both posts you made demonstrate one thing....... you don't have a clue....
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Postman
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Posted - 2004.06.13 22:52:00 -
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There is a company that makes MacOS, Linux, PS2, Xbox, etc ports of popular games. Maybe trying to bug that company to make a port for EVE would have more succes then bugging WineX to implement DX9 (btw, isn't WineX something you have to pay for?).
Or go work at CCP and help them port the game to Linux/MacOS themself.
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Cetshwayo
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Posted - 2004.06.14 01:13:00 -
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Indeed there is a company. Loki Games or something like that. Check out www.lokigames.com I got my Quake 3 from them (looooong time ago) and it works pretty good. Though Quake 3 already does use OpenGL... However I doubt that they will create an EVE port when the client is constantly being updated through patches and so forth.
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.06.14 01:19:00 -
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Edited by: Scorpyn on 14/06/2004 01:22:41
I'm not sure, but I think Loki Games are out of business... at least they stopped for a while 
Edit : Checked their website... maybe it was just their store that was closed? They haven't updated their news for a long time though...
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Non Serviam
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Posted - 2004.06.24 08:27:00 -
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Edited by: Non Serviam on 24/06/2004 08:31:00
Edited by: Non Serviam on 24/06/2004 08:30:35
Tried it and all that i'm getting is:
bash-2.05b$ cedega -use-pthreads yes --use-dos-cwd /home/ch/.point2play/Eve/c_drive/Program\ Files/CCP/EVE /home/ch/.point2play/Eve/c_drive/Program\ Files/CCP/EVE/eve.exe
'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
sounds like a python error msg for me. ne1 got that error too? or even knows how to fix it?
Edit: can someone with a "working" config post his prefs.ini pls
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Cortex Reaver
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Posted - 2004.06.24 10:02:00 -
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Originally by: Trianon Starstealer
Originally by: Cortex Reaver
Edited by: Cortex Reaver on 18/05/2004 18:43:12
Drop the anti-Microsoft j!had. It's not becoming and quite frankly, makes you look like a fool to anyone with any real technical saavy. The ability to install the Linux Distro du jour, doesn't make you "1337." Infact, the browsing statistics collected on /. basically prove that the average Linux zealot actually runs Windows with a picture of Tux as their wallpaper.
You give sh|t to people who prefer to play under linux and who are willing to spend time getting it to work, and then when someone critises the overweight, bloated, bug ridden security hole that IS Windows you start crying like a jerk and claim nobody knows what they are doing and it all a plot against good old Microsoft..........
OK, I run Linux as a preferred OS and Windows as a preferred Gaming system (unless a game has a native installer for Linux in which case I would use that).
Your comments in both posts you made demonstrate one thing....... you don't have a clue....
HAHAHAHA
Yeah, I'll just reffer you back to the first paragraph you quoted.
-CR
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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Kintac
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Posted - 2004.06.25 08:20:00 -
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Hi,
anyone tried running EvE with Cedega 4.0 ? Which configurations did you make (Prefs.ini, or Cedega¦s config file ) ?
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Kintac
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Posted - 2004.06.25 08:22:00 -
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Hi,
anyone tried running EvE with Cedega 4.0 ? Which configurations did you make (Prefs.ini, or Cedega¦s config file ) ?
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SwitchBl4d3
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Posted - 2004.06.25 08:27:00 -
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FAILING ALL THIS USE WINDOWS IT WORKS FINE FOR ME.
"Teh lord of Nonni"
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Psilocybe Cubensis
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Posted - 2004.06.25 09:20:00 -
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Originally by: SwitchBl4d3
FAILING ALL THIS USE WINDOWS IT WORKS FINE FOR ME.
Sigh.. funny guy number 6. I'm not even going to try to explain it.
Originally by: Kintac
anyone tried running EvE with Cedega 4.0 ? Which configurations did you make (Prefs.ini, or Cedega¦s config file ) ?
I only had to turn off advancedDevice=1 in my prefs.ini because EVE crashed when I undocked with that setting turned on.
I still haven't been able to get rid of the white menus though :( That would make EVE instantly playable on Linux for me.
(And yes I'm a flower-smelling hippy.)
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C4w3
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Posted - 2004.06.25 09:44:00 -
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I for one would like to see more multiplatform games, iw also tried to get EVE to work on *nix but expirienced same problems as the rest of you lot, direct X is a major issue and the 100¦s of programs like winex. (My comment to the l33tness of running *nix or win, imho same **** diffrent name, but some things are easier to do in *nix and some thing are better in win enviroment, if i wanna run eg network testing enviroments or not invest 10000000 $ on a database test setup might use *nix code is open so programming makes it alot easier) anyway my 200ú It¦s summer grab that beer get out in the sun with family and friends i promise EVE will still be here in 1 month ;0)
Sincearly C4w3 CEO Corp 1
Field Marshal of the Curse Forces.
"If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I will pull out a conventional one. |
Non Serviam
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Posted - 2004.06.25 13:50:00 -
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Edited by: Non Serviam on 25/06/2004 13:52:10
@switchblade: u replied to the wrong topic, post ur detailed explanation
of how u managed to get eve running on windows
here
pls. the nobel prize committee has been informed about ur outstanding
achievements allready.
back to the topic
can someone who got it running pls post something about their
config(kernel version, nvidia/ati gpu, prepackaged cedega/cvs compile,
point2play/command line, cedega config, pref.ini, did u use the eve
client installed in ur "real" windows partition/install in the "fake"
cedega c-drive)
thanx in advance
ps: mine is still crashing before i get to the login screen, shows the
startup image, the eula screen doesn't come up(kernel 2.6.7,
radeon9800pro/driver version 3.9, prepacked cedega, not using point2play
coz starting it with point2play it even doesn't show the startup pic,
installed a new client in the "fake" c-drive)
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Psilocybe Cubensis
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Posted - 2004.06.25 19:14:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Non Serviam
can someone who got it running pls post something about their config(kernel version, nvidia/ati gpu, prepackaged cedega/cvs compile, point2play/command line, cedega config, pref.ini, did u use the eve client installed in ur "real" windows partition/install in the "fake"
cedega c-drive)
Righto, here we go: Kernel 2.4.20, NVIDIA FX5700, prepackaged Cedega 4.0, commandline, copied the EVE install from my Windows partition to my Transgaming_drive.
prefs.ini
=========
advancedDevice=1
buffersize=80
debug=0
decimal=.
desktopHeight=768
desktopPrimary=0
desktopSetup=1
desktopWidth=1024
digit=,
eulaagreed=1367194830
eveampGain=0.795698924731
evevoiceGain=0.55
host=0
inputhost=localhost
masterVolume=0.903225806452
messagePeriod=200
music=stop
network=0
networkAdvanced=0
newbie=0
password=:i_r_l337:
PatchDownloadPath=http://eve.skjalfti.is
port=26000
savepasswords=1
texelalign=0.0
uiampGain=0.4
username=lord_zap
(I need to set advancedDevice=0 to prevent crashing when undocking.)
Cedega config is unchanged from the installed version.
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Lisp is the red pill. |
Non Serviam
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Posted - 2004.06.26 11:33:00 -
[47]
i can fully understand that there will be no native linux eve client, it's sort of impossible after choosing direct3d to render the graphics
but would it be possible to contact transgaming and support em to get it running using cedega? or at least to support us who are working on it by giving us documentation of all graphics related prefs.ini options?
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Xeria
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Posted - 2004.06.26 20:37:00 -
[48]
Hey,
When i run the client, (which i installed and patched from cd) i get the splash screen, the the client window opens, but the splash screen never disappears and the window is grey (not white). Bit confused at whats going on. The first message i always get is 'import site' failed; use -v for traceback Any idea what that means?
Your Tachyon Beam Laser I places an excellent hit on arkad [MOO], inflicting 702.3 damage.
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Xeria
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Posted - 2004.06.26 20:45:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Non Serviam
i can fully understand that there will be no native linux eve client, it's sort of impossible after choosing direct3d to render the graphics
but would it be possible to contact transgaming and support em to get it running using cedega? or at least to support us who are working on it by giving us documentation of all graphics related prefs.ini options?
The prefs.ini is part of eve, not winex
Your Tachyon Beam Laser I places an excellent hit on arkad [MOO], inflicting 702.3 damage.
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Captain Brownfinger
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Posted - 2004.06.26 22:37:00 -
[50]
Hey Cortex why gotta be such a ***** about this ? You obviously have no interest in this thread other to insult people who like linux and would really like to play thier games under that os. If those people want to spend thier time experimenting with these things then let them. You learn far more about computers this way.
Bottom line is if you got nothing constructive to add dont be a loser and insult for no reason.
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Caesium
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Posted - 2004.06.26 22:50:00 -
[51]
no love with kernel 2.6.7 x.org ati 3.9.0 and cedega or current cvs, I suspect it's due to the ati drivers tho with the previous version I could atleast get the pure white login screen.
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Non Serviam
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Posted - 2004.06.26 23:56:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Xeria
Originally by: Non Serviam
i can fully understand that there will be no native linux eve client, it's sort of impossible after choosing direct3d to render the graphics
but would it be possible to contact transgaming and support em to get it running using cedega? or at least to support us who are working on it by giving us documentation of all graphics related prefs.ini options?
The prefs.ini is part of eve, not winex
that might be the reason i'm asking ccp to release documentation, not transgaming ;)
site.py is a file used for local "site" python config which is imported using an "import site" command. i think this error message isn't related to our problems, but that's only my 0.02 isk
any dev available to comment on the possibility of releasing documentation for prefs.ini option?
eve was running very well using winex during beta(before the d3d9 effects were introduced) btw so most important would be any options to disable some of those effects.
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Xeria
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Posted - 2004.06.27 14:30:00 -
[53]
Originally by: KIAHicks
btw if anyone finds out why the login screen is flat white and can solve that problem give me a shout as that will probably be why the main windows when playing are white.. If we can resolve that then I can play eve in linux properly, rather than just training skills/chatting :)
I can confirm that the flat white login screen is caused by the graphics driver NOT winex. I have run eve on my server board which has a pathetic for gaming, acceptable for server... trident cyberblade, with white login screen. Therefore i would consider the problem to be driver related.
Your Tachyon Beam Laser I places an excellent hit on arkad [MOO], inflicting 702.3 damage.
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SatireWolf
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Posted - 2004.07.07 21:41:00 -
[54]
I don't think the problem is purely driver related. I'm running Fedora Core 2, on an AMD64 (32bit version of Fedora) with 1024MB of ram, and a Geforce FX5700 256MB (128bit memory bus). I'm using the latest nVidia drivers that were released a few days ago (61.06 x86-linux). I was running the 2.6.7 kernel stock, but I switched over to a stock fedora kernel for testing. My kernel version is 2.6.6-1.435.2.3.
To get cedega to work correctly on fedora I first had to disable prelinking in /etc/sysconfig/prelink and run the cron.daily prelink job. Then I had to disable the exec-shield kernel option in /proc/sys/kernel/exec-shield and /proc/sys/kernel/exec-shield-randomize.
After all that cedega installed eve just fine. Before that though I was getting an error 21 from cedega 4.
So long story short, my config is fine, but I get a white screen when I first start it up as well as the site.py error. I think the white screen is more of a start up problem. I'm going to try copying my stock windows install to this system later and see what happens. I'll just have to zip it up and burn it on dvd or something. I think this will work, it's just that there's something missing when you just do a clean install from the downloadable copy of EVE.
I'll keep trying... If I can get this to work I'll write up a howto and put up a web page about it.
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SatireWolf
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Posted - 2004.07.07 21:41:00 -
[55]
I don't think the problem is purely driver related. I'm running Fedora Core 2, on an AMD64 (32bit version of Fedora) with 1024MB of ram, and a Geforce FX5700 256MB (128bit memory bus). I'm using the latest nVidia drivers that were released a few days ago (61.06 x86-linux). I was running the 2.6.7 kernel stock, but I switched over to a stock fedora kernel for testing. My kernel version is 2.6.6-1.435.2.3.
To get cedega to work correctly on fedora I first had to disable prelinking in /etc/sysconfig/prelink and run the cron.daily prelink job. Then I had to disable the exec-shield kernel option in /proc/sys/kernel/exec-shield and /proc/sys/kernel/exec-shield-randomize.
After all that cedega installed eve just fine. Before that though I was getting an error 21 from cedega 4.
So long story short, my config is fine, but I get a white screen when I first start it up as well as the site.py error. I think the white screen is more of a start up problem. I'm going to try copying my stock windows install to this system later and see what happens. I'll just have to zip it up and burn it on dvd or something. I think this will work, it's just that there's something missing when you just do a clean install from the downloadable copy of EVE.
I'll keep trying... If I can get this to work I'll write up a howto and put up a web page about it.
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SatireWolf
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Posted - 2004.07.07 21:46:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Psilocybe Cubensis
Originally by: Non Serviam
can someone who got it running pls post something about their config(kernel version, nvidia/ati gpu, prepackaged cedega/cvs compile, point2play/command line, cedega config, pref.ini, did u use the eve client installed in ur "real" windows partition/install in the "fake"
cedega c-drive)
Righto, here we go: Kernel 2.4.20, NVIDIA FX5700, prepackaged Cedega 4.0, commandline, copied the EVE install from my Windows partition to my Transgaming_drive.
prefs.ini
=========
advancedDevice=1
buffersize=80
debug=0
decimal=.
desktopHeight=768
desktopPrimary=0
desktopSetup=1
desktopWidth=1024
digit=,
eulaagreed=1367194830
eveampGain=0.795698924731
evevoiceGain=0.55
host=0
inputhost=localhost
masterVolume=0.903225806452
messagePeriod=200
music=stop
network=0
networkAdvanced=0
newbie=0
password=:i_r_l337:
PatchDownloadPath=http://eve.skjalfti.is
port=26000
savepasswords=1
texelalign=0.0
uiampGain=0.4
username=lord_zap
(I need to set advancedDevice=0 to prevent crashing when undocking.)
Cedega config is unchanged from the installed version.
Psilocybe what linux distro and version etc are you running? Also what nvidia drivers are you using?
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SatireWolf
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Posted - 2004.07.07 21:46:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Psilocybe Cubensis
Originally by: Non Serviam
can someone who got it running pls post something about their config(kernel version, nvidia/ati gpu, prepackaged cedega/cvs compile, point2play/command line, cedega config, pref.ini, did u use the eve client installed in ur "real" windows partition/install in the "fake"
cedega c-drive)
Righto, here we go: Kernel 2.4.20, NVIDIA FX5700, prepackaged Cedega 4.0, commandline, copied the EVE install from my Windows partition to my Transgaming_drive.
prefs.ini
=========
advancedDevice=1
buffersize=80
debug=0
decimal=.
desktopHeight=768
desktopPrimary=0
desktopSetup=1
desktopWidth=1024
digit=,
eulaagreed=1367194830
eveampGain=0.795698924731
evevoiceGain=0.55
host=0
inputhost=localhost
masterVolume=0.903225806452
messagePeriod=200
music=stop
network=0
networkAdvanced=0
newbie=0
password=:i_r_l337:
PatchDownloadPath=http://eve.skjalfti.is
port=26000
savepasswords=1
texelalign=0.0
uiampGain=0.4
username=lord_zap
(I need to set advancedDevice=0 to prevent crashing when undocking.)
Cedega config is unchanged from the installed version.
Psilocybe what linux distro and version etc are you running? Also what nvidia drivers are you using?
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SubSeven
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Posted - 2004.07.07 21:50:00 -
[58]
Great Work KIA!!
Maybe if EVE was running on Linux vs Windows, you wouldn't get all the memory leaks that you even encounter from sitting in a station and doing nothing to PVPing,etc. I would definately pay for a version of EVE for LINUX if it ever came available!
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SubSeven
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Posted - 2004.07.07 21:50:00 -
[59]
Great Work KIA!!
Maybe if EVE was running on Linux vs Windows, you wouldn't get all the memory leaks that you even encounter from sitting in a station and doing nothing to PVPing,etc. I would definately pay for a version of EVE for LINUX if it ever came available!
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SubSeven
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Posted - 2004.07.07 21:51:00 -
[60]
Edited by: SubSeven on 07/07/2004 21:55:29
Damn Double Post!
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SubSeven
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Posted - 2004.07.07 21:51:00 -
[61]
Edited by: SubSeven on 07/07/2004 21:55:29
Damn Double Post!
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Raph L'Odair
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Posted - 2004.09.17 22:50:00 -
[62]
My current status running EVE on linux is that I manage to blindtype and click myself past the loginscreen, but the game crashes when it has nearly finished building the character selection screen.
Anyone else have this problem (or the solution for it)?
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Kill me and I will never do business with you again! |
Raph L'Odair
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Posted - 2004.09.17 22:50:00 -
[63]
My current status running EVE on linux is that I manage to blindtype and click myself past the loginscreen, but the game crashes when it has nearly finished building the character selection screen.
Anyone else have this problem (or the solution for it)?
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Kill me and I will never do business with you again! |
Death Priest
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Posted - 2004.09.18 00:02:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Cortex Reaver
I have two URLs that adequately describe you Linux dorks:
http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2003-06-30&res=l
http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2002-01-28&res=l
"I can make the game run like sh!t under Linux!"
You're my freak'n hero!
-CR
I would rather be a Linux/FreeBsd/Unix/OS400 Dork then be a Brainwashed desciple of the Church of Bill Gates
At least I could do things freely without paying the M$ Tax
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Death Priest
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Posted - 2004.09.18 00:02:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Cortex Reaver
I have two URLs that adequately describe you Linux dorks:
http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2003-06-30&res=l
http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2002-01-28&res=l
"I can make the game run like sh!t under Linux!"
You're my freak'n hero!
-CR
I would rather be a Linux/FreeBsd/Unix/OS400 Dork then be a Brainwashed desciple of the Church of Bill Gates
At least I could do things freely without paying the M$ Tax
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Death Priest
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Posted - 2004.09.18 00:06:00 -
[66]
Originally by: SubSeven
Great Work KIA!!
Maybe if EVE was running on Linux vs Windows, you wouldn't get all the memory leaks that you even encounter from sitting in a station and doing nothing to PVPing,etc. I would definately pay for a version of EVE for LINUX if it ever came available!
To be quite Honest I would personally pay $79.00 for the Linux verion.
As for the 1% BS that FUD is old come up with a better Lie.
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Death Priest
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Posted - 2004.09.18 00:06:00 -
[67]
Originally by: SubSeven
Great Work KIA!!
Maybe if EVE was running on Linux vs Windows, you wouldn't get all the memory leaks that you even encounter from sitting in a station and doing nothing to PVPing,etc. I would definately pay for a version of EVE for LINUX if it ever came available!
To be quite Honest I would personally pay $79.00 for the Linux verion.
As for the 1% BS that FUD is old come up with a better Lie.
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SubSeven
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Posted - 2004.09.18 00:25:00 -
[68]
To be quite Honest I would personally pay $79.00 for the Linux verion.
So would I, who wouldn't?
As for the 1% BS that FUD is old come up with a better Lie.
Wtf are you talking about? Take a look on google about all the useless services running on Windows 2000 or XP that almost noone uses , and everyone knows eve has memory leaks!(the softwares not perfect, ya know?) Combine those two together and you get a clusterf*** of memory leaks and crashes/lag!
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SubSeven
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Posted - 2004.09.18 00:25:00 -
[69]
To be quite Honest I would personally pay $79.00 for the Linux verion.
So would I, who wouldn't?
As for the 1% BS that FUD is old come up with a better Lie.
Wtf are you talking about? Take a look on google about all the useless services running on Windows 2000 or XP that almost noone uses , and everyone knows eve has memory leaks!(the softwares not perfect, ya know?) Combine those two together and you get a clusterf*** of memory leaks and crashes/lag!
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Roamie
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Posted - 2004.09.20 01:28:00 -
[70]
I use Linux for every single thing I do except Eve-Online and Battlefield (and have done for years), so I'm a very experienced Linux user, and here's what I think. I know Battlefield works in WineX, but that Eve-Online has quite some way to go. I don't think that this is the responsibility of the CCP team. First we'll have to see them really making money on the Windows version before it'll be practical to even discuss a port to different platforms. If it isn't profitable on Windows, it's not profitable on anything.
Not to mention that since they went with DirectX to begin with, they're not going to switch to OpenGL easily.
However, sponsoring the WineX project gets you on a voting list about what they make compatible first. The more games that use DirectX 9 that will get voted for, the sooner WineX is going to support Eve. Actually, WineX is already quite stunning, it runs an amazing amount of games perfectly, it's only a matter of time before Eve starts to run in WineX.
I think those who want to see games run on Linux in general, oughta pay more attention to WineX and less attention to the game developers themselves. Let Windows be the game platform, if we can have the Windows API anyway, there's no point at all for specific a Linux version from the developers.
Furthermore, WineX supporting Eve instead of Eve supporting WineX (or OpenGL), will also benefit other games that use the same DirectX methods as Eve-Online. Hence, there's a much greater audience interested in the development of WineX than to supporting one specific game. |
Roamie
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Posted - 2004.09.20 01:28:00 -
[71]
I use Linux for every single thing I do except Eve-Online and Battlefield (and have done for years), so I'm a very experienced Linux user, and here's what I think. I know Battlefield works in WineX, but that Eve-Online has quite some way to go. I don't think that this is the responsibility of the CCP team. First we'll have to see them really making money on the Windows version before it'll be practical to even discuss a port to different platforms. If it isn't profitable on Windows, it's not profitable on anything.
Not to mention that since they went with DirectX to begin with, they're not going to switch to OpenGL easily.
However, sponsoring the WineX project gets you on a voting list about what they make compatible first. The more games that use DirectX 9 that will get voted for, the sooner WineX is going to support Eve. Actually, WineX is already quite stunning, it runs an amazing amount of games perfectly, it's only a matter of time before Eve starts to run in WineX.
I think those who want to see games run on Linux in general, oughta pay more attention to WineX and less attention to the game developers themselves. Let Windows be the game platform, if we can have the Windows API anyway, there's no point at all for specific a Linux version from the developers.
Furthermore, WineX supporting Eve instead of Eve supporting WineX (or OpenGL), will also benefit other games that use the same DirectX methods as Eve-Online. Hence, there's a much greater audience interested in the development of WineX than to supporting one specific game. |
Jon Frimann
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Posted - 2004.09.20 01:33:00 -
[72]
Edited by: Jon Frimann on 20/09/2004 02:01:49
Maybe i can help you on that.. :D
I was working on an wine solution, so this might help me more then you think. :)
Edit: i can't seems to find the prefs.ini in my wine eve online install.
Lost in Space |
Jon Frimann
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Posted - 2004.09.20 01:33:00 -
[73]
Edited by: Jon Frimann on 20/09/2004 02:01:49
Maybe i can help you on that.. :D
I was working on an wine solution, so this might help me more then you think. :)
Edit: i can't seems to find the prefs.ini in my wine eve online install.
Lost in Space |
Cortex Reaver
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Posted - 2004.09.20 03:58:00 -
[74]
Originally by: SubSeven
Great Work KIA!!
Maybe if EVE was running on Linux vs Windows, you wouldn't get all the memory leaks that you even encounter from sitting in a station and doing nothing to PVPing,etc. I would definately pay for a version of EVE for LINUX if it ever came available!
Right, because nothing that was written for Linux ever had a memory leak.
-CR
/*
Cortex Reaver
crtxreavr at trioptimum dot com
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, 1759
*/ |
Cortex Reaver
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Posted - 2004.09.20 03:58:00 -
[75]
Originally by: SubSeven
Great Work KIA!!
Maybe if EVE was running on Linux vs Windows, you wouldn't get all the memory leaks that you even encounter from sitting in a station and doing nothing to PVPing,etc. I would definately pay for a version of EVE for LINUX if it ever came available!
Right, because nothing that was written for Linux ever had a memory leak.
-CR
/*
Cortex Reaver
crtxreavr at trioptimum dot com
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, 1759
*/ |
Cortex Reaver
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Posted - 2004.09.20 04:14:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Cortex Reaver
I'm all for multi-platform clients. Infact, my primary OS at home and my preffered OS for most tasks is FreeBSD. My favorite OS, however, is the one that's right for the job. Argue with that!
The real problem in going forward with a viable multi-platform game client is the lack of a decent graphics API. OpenGL filled the role for a long time, but the world has really passed it by. It simply can't handle the lighting and shading features today's gamers demand. Even Id Software (John Carmack), a long time OpenGL devotee has recognized this. The engine for Doom III will be an OpenGL/DirectX-9 hybrid in order to achieve the desired effect.
This has actually changed in recent days. OpenGL v2.0 was finally released which supports the lighting and shading featues that OpenGL has been lacking.
So I guess a multi-platform re-write of the EVE client is now possible, but I wouldn't hold your breath.
-CR
/*
Cortex Reaver
crtxreavr at trioptimum dot com
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, 1759
*/ |
Cortex Reaver
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Posted - 2004.09.20 04:14:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Cortex Reaver
I'm all for multi-platform clients. Infact, my primary OS at home and my preffered OS for most tasks is FreeBSD. My favorite OS, however, is the one that's right for the job. Argue with that!
The real problem in going forward with a viable multi-platform game client is the lack of a decent graphics API. OpenGL filled the role for a long time, but the world has really passed it by. It simply can't handle the lighting and shading features today's gamers demand. Even Id Software (John Carmack), a long time OpenGL devotee has recognized this. The engine for Doom III will be an OpenGL/DirectX-9 hybrid in order to achieve the desired effect.
This has actually changed in recent days. OpenGL v2.0 was finally released which supports the lighting and shading featues that OpenGL has been lacking.
So I guess a multi-platform re-write of the EVE client is now possible, but I wouldn't hold your breath.
-CR
/*
Cortex Reaver
crtxreavr at trioptimum dot com
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, 1759
*/ |
Ton Kayeed
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Posted - 2004.09.20 09:45:00 -
[78]
guys, check the Tech forum. The white login screen and subsequent problems is something that WINDOWS users are having. I did as well, with the latest NV drivers for windows. I had to switch to the CCP-recommended driver version, which IIRC is one of the 4xxx. TRy doing that withyour linux NV drivers before messing with anything else.
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Ton Kayeed
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Posted - 2004.09.20 09:45:00 -
[79]
guys, check the Tech forum. The white login screen and subsequent problems is something that WINDOWS users are having. I did as well, with the latest NV drivers for windows. I had to switch to the CCP-recommended driver version, which IIRC is one of the 4xxx. TRy doing that withyour linux NV drivers before messing with anything else.
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Aodha Khan
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Posted - 2004.09.20 10:05:00 -
[80]
CCP have enough to do without having to develop Eve on Linux aswell. 1-2% of the desktop really doesn't justify the time nor expense. And we would be sacrificing new features and content in the actual game due to resources being taken.
Please, don't waste any time on this CCP.
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak. |
Aodha Khan
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Posted - 2004.09.20 10:05:00 -
[81]
CCP have enough to do without having to develop Eve on Linux aswell. 1-2% of the desktop really doesn't justify the time nor expense. And we would be sacrificing new features and content in the actual game due to resources being taken.
Please, don't waste any time on this CCP.
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak. |
Zen Takore
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Posted - 2004.09.29 22:59:00 -
[82]
Edited by: Zen Takore on 29/09/2004 23:01:10
Cortex Reaver; If you don't like Linux don't use it.
Personally I choose Linux over Windows any day, but that's my personal fscking decision to make. Yours is yours, so have your fscking freedom elsewhere arseh0le.
Boyakasha! |
Zen Takore
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Posted - 2004.09.29 22:59:00 -
[83]
Edited by: Zen Takore on 29/09/2004 23:01:10
Cortex Reaver; If you don't like Linux don't use it.
Personally I choose Linux over Windows any day, but that's my personal fscking decision to make. Yours is yours, so have your fscking freedom elsewhere arseh0le.
Boyakasha! |
Domalais
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Posted - 2004.09.29 23:27:00 -
[84]
Edited by: Domalais on 29/09/2004 23:30:44
Originally by: Death Priest
At least I could do things freely without paying the M$ Tax
http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2002-07-22&res=l
Sounds like the zealots are restless.
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Domalais
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Posted - 2004.09.29 23:27:00 -
[85]
Edited by: Domalais on 29/09/2004 23:30:44
Originally by: Death Priest
At least I could do things freely without paying the M$ Tax
http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2002-07-22&res=l
Sounds like the zealots are restless.
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kurg
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Posted - 2004.09.29 23:53:00 -
[86]
Id love a linux version, but honestly Id think the best thing woykd be that the moved the server to a unixcluster instead of winblowz...
even the paranoid has real enemies...
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kurg
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Posted - 2004.09.29 23:53:00 -
[87]
Id love a linux version, but honestly Id think the best thing woykd be that the moved the server to a unixcluster instead of winblowz...
even the paranoid has real enemies...
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Cyberwizzard
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Posted - 2004.10.24 01:31:00 -
[88]
Allright, new version of Cedega has just been released - anyone tried it yet?
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Cyberwizzard
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Posted - 2004.10.24 01:31:00 -
[89]
Allright, new version of Cedega has just been released - anyone tried it yet?
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Rinekar
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Posted - 2004.10.24 02:27:00 -
[90]
Congrats guys, I am greatly interested in getting EVE running in Linux since I only have Windows so I can play the game... :(
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Rinekar
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Posted - 2004.10.24 02:27:00 -
[91]
Congrats guys, I am greatly interested in getting EVE running in Linux since I only have Windows so I can play the game... :(
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.10.24 03:16:00 -
[92]
I would personally love to play EVE on my ibook rather then on my pc.
................. |
Cruz
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Posted - 2004.10.24 03:16:00 -
[93]
I would personally love to play EVE on my ibook rather then on my pc.
................. |
Leipuri
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Posted - 2004.10.24 08:40:00 -
[94]
Could someone delete all anti-linux and anti-microsoft posts from this thread and this could be good informative thread for these who try get eve run on linux or atleast give these who already made these posts ability to delete these posts themself once they finally reliase how foolish it look like.
Personally its good news if eve is getting closer to work from linux as it means potential new subscribers and these who have windows installed just so they could play eve could finally do full move to their primary OS. I doubt there would be any need to for new customer support like someone hint here just because cedega would run eve and updating client wouldnt become too complex aslong it would run on top of cedega, so same updates would work for both linux and windows and if it didnt work for linux it would would require update to cedega instead changes to client.
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Leipuri
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Posted - 2004.10.24 08:40:00 -
[95]
Could someone delete all anti-linux and anti-microsoft posts from this thread and this could be good informative thread for these who try get eve run on linux or atleast give these who already made these posts ability to delete these posts themself once they finally reliase how foolish it look like.
Personally its good news if eve is getting closer to work from linux as it means potential new subscribers and these who have windows installed just so they could play eve could finally do full move to their primary OS. I doubt there would be any need to for new customer support like someone hint here just because cedega would run eve and updating client wouldnt become too complex aslong it would run on top of cedega, so same updates would work for both linux and windows and if it didnt work for linux it would would require update to cedega instead changes to client.
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Cyberwizzard
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Posted - 2004.10.25 17:17:00 -
[96]
I just read that ppl are testing it with Cedega 4.1 right now - still no word from them though :(
Anyhow, I read somewhere that CCP is gonna have a talk with Transgaming within a few weeks (when Shiva is 'finished') to try and get EVE to run in linux. This aint a promise that we'll have EVE in linux by christmas but at least there is progress :)
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Cyberwizzard
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Posted - 2004.10.25 17:17:00 -
[97]
I just read that ppl are testing it with Cedega 4.1 right now - still no word from them though :(
Anyhow, I read somewhere that CCP is gonna have a talk with Transgaming within a few weeks (when Shiva is 'finished') to try and get EVE to run in linux. This aint a promise that we'll have EVE in linux by christmas but at least there is progress :)
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BeuBii
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Posted - 2004.11.30 00:59:00 -
[98]
fix for mouse
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=128221
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BeuBii
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Posted - 2004.11.30 00:59:00 -
[99]
fix for mouse
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=128221
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Poldi45
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Posted - 2004.12.19 23:08:00 -
[100]
Hi,
everything works perfectly fine for me:
- i have a perfect mouse
- it runs smooth
- sounds fine too
except for one problem that makes the game unplayable:
It seems, that the client is unable to add new stuff to the cache?!?! everytime i get to something new the client crashes, if i start the game on a windows machine and copy over the cahe of the particular thing it works. quite anoying (especially for the guy with the windows machine).
Ah one more thing: the game crashes when i try to look at a stargate, but that might also be cause by the cache, dunno. flying to it while not looking at it works tho :)))
can anybody help? specs r:
Athlon 2500+
MSI Nvidia fx5900XT with driver ver. 6629(latest so far)
cedega 4.2 transgaming binary version(no cvs)
all that on at up to date Fedora Core 3 system(kde 3.3) (lots of 3rd party stuff like ATRPMS in it).
I use the "prefs.ini" someone postet in this forum earlier.
maybe someone who has most of the stuff in his cache already can upload it and post the link here, so the linux people can play :)
PS: Dont tell me to use windows as i dont have it and cannot install it on the machine.
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Poldi45
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Posted - 2004.12.19 23:08:00 -
[101]
Hi,
everything works perfectly fine for me:
- i have a perfect mouse
- it runs smooth
- sounds fine too
except for one problem that makes the game unplayable:
It seems, that the client is unable to add new stuff to the cache?!?! everytime i get to something new the client crashes, if i start the game on a windows machine and copy over the cahe of the particular thing it works. quite anoying (especially for the guy with the windows machine).
Ah one more thing: the game crashes when i try to look at a stargate, but that might also be cause by the cache, dunno. flying to it while not looking at it works tho :)))
can anybody help? specs r:
Athlon 2500+
MSI Nvidia fx5900XT with driver ver. 6629(latest so far)
cedega 4.2 transgaming binary version(no cvs)
all that on at up to date Fedora Core 3 system(kde 3.3) (lots of 3rd party stuff like ATRPMS in it).
I use the "prefs.ini" someone postet in this forum earlier.
maybe someone who has most of the stuff in his cache already can upload it and post the link here, so the linux people can play :)
PS: Dont tell me to use windows as i dont have it and cannot install it on the machine.
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Cortex Reaver
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Posted - 2004.12.20 00:14:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Poldi45
Hi,
everything works perfectly fine for me:
- i have a perfect mouse
- it runs smooth
- sounds fine too
except for one problem that makes the game unplayable:
It seems, that the client is unable to add new stuff to the cache?!?! everytime i get to something new the client crashes, if i start the game on a windows machine and copy over the cahe of the particular thing it works. quite anoying (especially for the guy with the windows machine).
Ah one more thing: the game crashes when i try to look at a stargate, but that might also be cause by the cache, dunno. flying to it while not looking at it works tho :)))
can anybody help? specs r:
Athlon 2500+
MSI Nvidia fx5900XT with driver ver. 6629(latest so far)
cedega 4.2 transgaming binary version(no cvs)
all that on at up to date Fedora Core 3 system(kde 3.3) (lots of 3rd party stuff like ATRPMS in it).
I use the "prefs.ini" someone postet in this forum earlier.
maybe someone who has most of the stuff in his cache already can upload it and post the link here, so the linux people can play :)
PS: Dont tell me to use windows as i dont have it and cannot install it on the machine.
File permissions? When you mount fat32 or NTFS under linux, the filesystem inherits the permissions of the mount point recursivly.
permissions or ownership could also be the problem if you've copied to game to ext2fs.
'man chmod' 'man chown'
-CR
PS: Linux is for punks who hate Microsoft. FreeBSD is for people who love UNIX.
/*
Cortex Reaver
crtxreavr at trioptimum dot com
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, 1759
*/ |
Cortex Reaver
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Posted - 2004.12.20 00:14:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Poldi45
Hi,
everything works perfectly fine for me:
- i have a perfect mouse
- it runs smooth
- sounds fine too
except for one problem that makes the game unplayable:
It seems, that the client is unable to add new stuff to the cache?!?! everytime i get to something new the client crashes, if i start the game on a windows machine and copy over the cahe of the particular thing it works. quite anoying (especially for the guy with the windows machine).
Ah one more thing: the game crashes when i try to look at a stargate, but that might also be cause by the cache, dunno. flying to it while not looking at it works tho :)))
can anybody help? specs r:
Athlon 2500+
MSI Nvidia fx5900XT with driver ver. 6629(latest so far)
cedega 4.2 transgaming binary version(no cvs)
all that on at up to date Fedora Core 3 system(kde 3.3) (lots of 3rd party stuff like ATRPMS in it).
I use the "prefs.ini" someone postet in this forum earlier.
maybe someone who has most of the stuff in his cache already can upload it and post the link here, so the linux people can play :)
PS: Dont tell me to use windows as i dont have it and cannot install it on the machine.
File permissions? When you mount fat32 or NTFS under linux, the filesystem inherits the permissions of the mount point recursivly.
permissions or ownership could also be the problem if you've copied to game to ext2fs.
'man chmod' 'man chown'
-CR
PS: Linux is for punks who hate Microsoft. FreeBSD is for people who love UNIX.
/*
Cortex Reaver
crtxreavr at trioptimum dot com
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, 1759
*/ |
Poldi45
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Posted - 2004.12.20 08:38:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Cortex Reaver
File permissions? When you mount fat32 or NTFS under linux, the filesystem inherits the permissions of the mount point recursivly.
permissions or ownership could also be the problem if you've copied to game to ext2fs.
'man chmod' 'man chown'
no, that cant be it. I own all the files and they r all "777".
Any other idea? running as root gives the same result for me btw.
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Poldi45
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Posted - 2004.12.20 08:38:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Cortex Reaver
File permissions? When you mount fat32 or NTFS under linux, the filesystem inherits the permissions of the mount point recursivly.
permissions or ownership could also be the problem if you've copied to game to ext2fs.
'man chmod' 'man chown'
no, that cant be it. I own all the files and they r all "777".
Any other idea? running as root gives the same result for me btw.
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2004.12.20 09:37:00 -
[106]
Edited by: Famine Aligher'ri on 20/12/2004 09:37:53
Originally by: SubSeven
To be quite Honest I would personally pay $79.00 for the Linux verion.
So would I, who wouldn't?
As for the 1% BS that FUD is old come up with a better Lie.
Wtf are you talking about? Take a look on google about all the useless services running on Windows 2000 or XP that almost noone uses , and everyone knows eve has memory leaks!(the softwares not perfect, ya know?) Combine those two together and you get a clusterf*** of memory leaks and crashes/lag!
Heh had to reply to this even if it is off topic.
Yes there are some usless stuff running. Like any experienced computer nerd knows, you can configured stuff not to run or to run. So I don't see the problem here in you using that as a insult or something. That's like me saying "Wow Linux has alot of usless daemons running by default" or something. I don't think I would ever pay for unix or linux (Lives 5 blocks from Redhat Linux). I think I keep in the same spirit of it always being free like unix was intended. Till some corp ****s decided to make it more than what it was to better there pockets/popularity.
-Famine
P.S
Fuse, Mac's don't suck... You suck my friend...
Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
-The Frig- |
Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2004.12.20 09:37:00 -
[107]
Edited by: Famine Aligher'ri on 20/12/2004 09:37:53
Originally by: SubSeven
To be quite Honest I would personally pay $79.00 for the Linux verion.
So would I, who wouldn't?
As for the 1% BS that FUD is old come up with a better Lie.
Wtf are you talking about? Take a look on google about all the useless services running on Windows 2000 or XP that almost noone uses , and everyone knows eve has memory leaks!(the softwares not perfect, ya know?) Combine those two together and you get a clusterf*** of memory leaks and crashes/lag!
Heh had to reply to this even if it is off topic.
Yes there are some usless stuff running. Like any experienced computer nerd knows, you can configured stuff not to run or to run. So I don't see the problem here in you using that as a insult or something. That's like me saying "Wow Linux has alot of usless daemons running by default" or something. I don't think I would ever pay for unix or linux (Lives 5 blocks from Redhat Linux). I think I keep in the same spirit of it always being free like unix was intended. Till some corp ****s decided to make it more than what it was to better there pockets/popularity.
-Famine
P.S
Fuse, Mac's don't suck... You suck my friend...
Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
-The Frig- |
Poldi45
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Posted - 2004.12.20 14:01:00 -
[108]
Those flames r just anoying, plz stop it. It doesnt help anybody so jerk off somewhere else.
I noticed that it doesnt seem to runs with the cvsversion generated via the WineX.sh skript. I cant see the login screen nor anything else after loggin in with it. Ill try with cedega 4.1.1 now.
one strange thing is that the game still runs at 1024x768 although its runs as 1280x1024 on a windows machine using the same EVE directory. The games does not produce any registry entry where it saves the resolutions, so it must be in the EVE directory somewhere(i tried 2 windows computers, one of em had never run eve before and still had the higher res) but not interpretet when run though cedega. So there is something generally wrong with the access to the cache. wtf do they do to the files there?!?!?
Does cedega access the filesystem in a case sensitive way? I can hardly believe it, but itll be easy to find out.
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Poldi45
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Posted - 2004.12.20 14:01:00 -
[109]
Those flames r just anoying, plz stop it. It doesnt help anybody so jerk off somewhere else.
I noticed that it doesnt seem to runs with the cvsversion generated via the WineX.sh skript. I cant see the login screen nor anything else after loggin in with it. Ill try with cedega 4.1.1 now.
one strange thing is that the game still runs at 1024x768 although its runs as 1280x1024 on a windows machine using the same EVE directory. The games does not produce any registry entry where it saves the resolutions, so it must be in the EVE directory somewhere(i tried 2 windows computers, one of em had never run eve before and still had the higher res) but not interpretet when run though cedega. So there is something generally wrong with the access to the cache. wtf do they do to the files there?!?!?
Does cedega access the filesystem in a case sensitive way? I can hardly believe it, but itll be easy to find out.
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Cortex Reaver
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Posted - 2004.12.20 15:21:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
That's like me saying "Wow Linux has alot of usless daemons running by default" or something. I don't think I would ever pay for unix or linux (Lives 5 blocks from Redhat Linux). I think I keep in the same spirit of it always being free like unix was intended. Till some corp ****s decided to make it more than what it was to better there pockets/popularity.
-Famine
P.S
Fuse, Mac's don't suck... You suck my friend...
Actually, UNIX was originally a commercial product by Bell Labs of AT&T. Bell Labs made it freely available to educational institutions for a short time, then terminated this free license. This license termination is what prompted the development of the BSD branch of operations systems. Oh, but wait. . . you already know that 'cause you're a know-it-all linux guy telling us how the world is run.
-CR
/*
Cortex Reaver
crtxreavr at trioptimum dot com
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, 1759
*/ |
Cortex Reaver
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Posted - 2004.12.20 15:21:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
That's like me saying "Wow Linux has alot of usless daemons running by default" or something. I don't think I would ever pay for unix or linux (Lives 5 blocks from Redhat Linux). I think I keep in the same spirit of it always being free like unix was intended. Till some corp ****s decided to make it more than what it was to better there pockets/popularity.
-Famine
P.S
Fuse, Mac's don't suck... You suck my friend...
Actually, UNIX was originally a commercial product by Bell Labs of AT&T. Bell Labs made it freely available to educational institutions for a short time, then terminated this free license. This license termination is what prompted the development of the BSD branch of operations systems. Oh, but wait. . . you already know that 'cause you're a know-it-all linux guy telling us how the world is run.
-CR
/*
Cortex Reaver
crtxreavr at trioptimum dot com
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, 1759
*/ |
Oveur
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Posted - 2004.12.20 15:38:00 -
[112]
Could we please keep this conversation focused on the topic at hand and not make this the 9.872.859.227.687.938.987.865th thread for OS wars on the internet!
EVE on other platforms is something we are investigating. EVE running better on CEDEGA is most likely due to the work they have been doing with Half-Life 2 compatibility, so kudos to the Transgaming team 
Posting workarounds here helps us pinpoint where additional work is needed to increase compatibility, please keep it up (or link to other threads that have workarounds)
_____________________________
I say hey sky, s'other say I won say, I pray to J I get the same ol' same ol. |
Oveur
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Posted - 2004.12.20 15:38:00 -
[113]
Could we please keep this conversation focused on the topic at hand and not make this the 9.872.859.227.687.938.987.865th thread for OS wars on the internet!
EVE on other platforms is something we are investigating. EVE running better on CEDEGA is most likely due to the work they have been doing with Half-Life 2 compatibility, so kudos to the Transgaming team
Posting workarounds here helps us pinpoint where additional work is needed to increase compatibility, please keep it up (or link to other threads that have workarounds)
_____________________________
I say hey sky, s'other say I won say, I pray to J I get the same ol' same ol. |
Avon
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Posted - 2004.12.20 15:45:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Oveur
9.872.859.227.687.938.987.865th
Odd, that part of the post caused a buffer overflow on my Windows box...
______________________________________________
Never argue with idiots.
They will just drag it down to their level, and then beat you through experience. |
Avon
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Posted - 2004.12.20 15:45:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Oveur
9.872.859.227.687.938.987.865th
Odd, that part of the post caused a buffer overflow on my Windows box...
______________________________________________
Never argue with idiots.
They will just drag it down to their level, and then beat you through experience. |
flummox
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Posted - 2004.12.20 15:54:00 -
[116]
Edited by: flummox on 20/12/2004 15:53:48
lol...
Oveur and Avon posted close enough together in my forum trolling for me to think Avon's post awarded the thread with the Illustrious "Gold Bar"... lol
that was scary... 8)
SOFT !! (sorry, off f'n topic !!)
there is a fine, but dissasterous line between a fart and a shart. i suggest you make sure which side you want to be on... |
flummox
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Posted - 2004.12.20 15:54:00 -
[117]
Edited by: flummox on 20/12/2004 15:53:48
lol...
Oveur and Avon posted close enough together in my forum trolling for me to think Avon's post awarded the thread with the Illustrious "Gold Bar"... lol
that was scary... 8)
SOFT !! (sorry, off f'n topic !!)
there is a fine, but dissasterous line between a fart and a shart. i suggest you make sure which side you want to be on... |
Maveric7911
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Posted - 2004.12.22 17:11:00 -
[118]
Edited by: Maveric7911 on 22/12/2004 17:12:01
every time I try to run the game in cedega I get this error.
1 : blue.BluePyOS: InitBasicModuleSupport() failed
0 : blue.BluePyOS: Unhandled Python exception: BluePyOS::PyError()
AttributeError: 'stackless.module' object has no attribute '_extension_registry'[
Any thoughts?
I have tried fresh installs from both 3106.exe and 3007.exe as well as just the folder from my windows drive I get the same error with all of these.
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Maveric7911
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Posted - 2004.12.22 17:11:00 -
[119]
Edited by: Maveric7911 on 22/12/2004 17:12:01
every time I try to run the game in cedega I get this error.
1 : blue.BluePyOS: InitBasicModuleSupport() failed
0 : blue.BluePyOS: Unhandled Python exception: BluePyOS::PyError()
AttributeError: 'stackless.module' object has no attribute '_extension_registry'[
Any thoughts?
I have tried fresh installs from both 3106.exe and 3007.exe as well as just the folder from my windows drive I get the same error with all of these.
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Bawlduke
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Posted - 2004.12.22 18:04:00 -
[120]
to say Eve is running on linux, when it is being emulated via a third party application, on linux, is the same as me claiming I can run linux on windows when it is actualy in VM-ware...
To run on an OS, the game would have to be ported to work on that OS. If an application is used to get Eve (or any other app) to run 'in' an OS, then emulation is the issue. Ask the creators of the emulator, not CCP for support, since it is their code that caues the problem.
"it's like Hee Haw in space..."
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Bawlduke
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Posted - 2004.12.22 18:04:00 -
[121]
to say Eve is running on linux, when it is being emulated via a third party application, on linux, is the same as me claiming I can run linux on windows when it is actualy in VM-ware...
To run on an OS, the game would have to be ported to work on that OS. If an application is used to get Eve (or any other app) to run 'in' an OS, then emulation is the issue. Ask the creators of the emulator, not CCP for support, since it is their code that caues the problem.
"it's like Hee Haw in space..."
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Maveric7911
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Posted - 2004.12.22 18:05:00 -
[122]
Edited by: Maveric7911 on 22/12/2004 18:09:24
well if you knew anything about cedega you would know its not a emulator.
and on a second note this is a problem that many "windows" users have as well go read the forums then speak.
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Maveric7911
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Posted - 2004.12.22 18:05:00 -
[123]
Edited by: Maveric7911 on 22/12/2004 18:09:24
well if you knew anything about cedega you would know its not a emulator.
and on a second note this is a problem that many "windows" users have as well go read the forums then speak.
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Bawlduke
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Posted - 2004.12.22 18:16:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Maveric7911
Edited by: Maveric7911 on 22/12/2004 18:09:24
well if you knew anything about cedega you would know its not a emulator.
and on a second note this is a problem that many "windows" users have as well go read the forums then speak.
Is Eve ported to Linux? (no)
Does the 'tool' run 'in' linux and give the user the ability to run a Windows application within the 'tool' that is running 'in' Linux? (yes)
By definition, that is an emulator.
I can call a car, a "multiwheeled utility device for transportation", but it is still a car...
"it's like Hee Haw in space..."
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Bawlduke
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Posted - 2004.12.22 18:16:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Maveric7911
Edited by: Maveric7911 on 22/12/2004 18:09:24
well if you knew anything about cedega you would know its not a emulator.
and on a second note this is a problem that many "windows" users have as well go read the forums then speak.
Is Eve ported to Linux? (no)
Does the 'tool' run 'in' linux and give the user the ability to run a Windows application within the 'tool' that is running 'in' Linux? (yes)
By definition, that is an emulator.
I can call a car, a "multiwheeled utility device for transportation", but it is still a car...
"it's like Hee Haw in space..."
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Maveric7911
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Posted - 2004.12.22 18:26:00 -
[126]
Edited by: Maveric7911 on 22/12/2004 18:27:32
Does the 'tool' run 'in' linux and give the user the ability to run a Windows application within the 'tool' that is running 'in' Linux? (yes)
You really are dumb arn't you. You have no clue what the "tool" does or how it works. An emulator creates a full enviroment of what you are tring to emulate "ie vmware or nes eviroments". Cedega how ever does not create this full enviroment, it brings in partial amounts of the windows system that is needed by games in order to run. Ie dx and a few other dll's.The game is still running under the native linux enviroment but once again in terms you can understand it has pointers to the areas of windows that it actually requires. Once again maybe you should go read and learn how things really work before you speak about things you don't have the slightest clue about. Now back to my orginal note as I said before this error I get is also the same exact error many windows users get, once again read the forums. So I was asking in this thread since their are linux users reading it to see if any of them are having this problem or have had this problem.
Thanks
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Maveric7911
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Posted - 2004.12.22 18:26:00 -
[127]
Edited by: Maveric7911 on 22/12/2004 18:27:32
Does the 'tool' run 'in' linux and give the user the ability to run a Windows application within the 'tool' that is running 'in' Linux? (yes)
You really are dumb arn't you. You have no clue what the "tool" does or how it works. An emulator creates a full enviroment of what you are tring to emulate "ie vmware or nes eviroments". Cedega how ever does not create this full enviroment, it brings in partial amounts of the windows system that is needed by games in order to run. Ie dx and a few other dll's.The game is still running under the native linux enviroment but once again in terms you can understand it has pointers to the areas of windows that it actually requires. Once again maybe you should go read and learn how things really work before you speak about things you don't have the slightest clue about. Now back to my orginal note as I said before this error I get is also the same exact error many windows users get, once again read the forums. So I was asking in this thread since their are linux users reading it to see if any of them are having this problem or have had this problem.
Thanks
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2004.12.25 07:05:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Cortex Reaver
Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
That's like me saying "Wow Linux has alot of usless daemons running by default" or something. I don't think I would ever pay for unix or linux (Lives 5 blocks from Redhat Linux). I think I keep in the same spirit of it always being free like unix was intended. Till some corp ****s decided to make it more than what it was to better there pockets/popularity.
-Famine
P.S
Fuse, Mac's don't suck... You suck my friend...
Actually, UNIX was originally a commercial product by Bell Labs of AT&T. Bell Labs made it freely available to educational institutions for a short time, then terminated this free license. This license termination is what prompted the development of the BSD branch of operations systems. Oh, but wait. . . you already know that 'cause you're a know-it-all linux guy telling us how the world is run.
-CR
Keyword "Was" and now will be always. No im not a know it all "Linux" guy. Don't think I even mentioned that in my post. Just pointing out to the guy (Funny) named "Subseven". Also wanted to point out the word "Branch". New "Branchs" with new "People" makes a new "Meaning". Get my drift or do I need to spell it out for you even more?
-Famine Aligher'ri
Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
-The Frig- |
Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2004.12.25 07:05:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Cortex Reaver
Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
That's like me saying "Wow Linux has alot of usless daemons running by default" or something. I don't think I would ever pay for unix or linux (Lives 5 blocks from Redhat Linux). I think I keep in the same spirit of it always being free like unix was intended. Till some corp ****s decided to make it more than what it was to better there pockets/popularity.
-Famine
P.S
Fuse, Mac's don't suck... You suck my friend...
Actually, UNIX was originally a commercial product by Bell Labs of AT&T. Bell Labs made it freely available to educational institutions for a short time, then terminated this free license. This license termination is what prompted the development of the BSD branch of operations systems. Oh, but wait. . . you already know that 'cause you're a know-it-all linux guy telling us how the world is run.
-CR
Keyword "Was" and now will be always. No im not a know it all "Linux" guy. Don't think I even mentioned that in my post. Just pointing out to the guy (Funny) named "Subseven". Also wanted to point out the word "Branch". New "Branchs" with new "People" makes a new "Meaning". Get my drift or do I need to spell it out for you even more?
-Famine Aligher'ri
Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
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The Burninator
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Posted - 2004.12.31 01:26:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Poldi45
Hi,
everything works perfectly fine for me:
- i have a perfect mouse
- it runs smooth
- sounds fine too
except for one problem that makes the game unplayable:
It seems, that the client is unable to add new stuff to the cache?!?! everytime i get to something new the client crashes, if i start the game on a windows machine and copy over the cahe of the particular thing it works. quite anoying (especially for the guy with the windows machine).
Ah one more thing: the game crashes when i try to look at a stargate, but that might also be cause by the cache, dunno. flying to it while not looking at it works tho :)))
can anybody help? specs r:
Athlon 2500+
MSI Nvidia fx5900XT with driver ver. 6629(latest so far)
cedega 4.2 transgaming binary version(no cvs)
all that on at up to date Fedora Core 3 system(kde 3.3) (lots of 3rd party stuff like ATRPMS in it).
I use the "prefs.ini" someone postet in this forum earlier.
maybe someone who has most of the stuff in his cache already can upload it and post the link here, so the linux people can play :)
PS: Dont tell me to use windows as i dont have it and cannot install it on the machine.
You could try this, go into your config and set your working directory to wherever eve is. At that point it should be able to write to the directory no problem....i think :P
I've been trying to get this to work for a day now, and with the latest patch. The game doesn't even load for me. I dont know, i could have some setting wrong or something, tried it one Cedega 4.2 and 4.11 and a buncha others :P still doesn't like it. It just kinda looks like its going to start up then stops. Anyone got any ideas??
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The Burninator
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Posted - 2004.12.31 01:26:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Poldi45
Hi,
everything works perfectly fine for me:
- i have a perfect mouse
- it runs smooth
- sounds fine too
except for one problem that makes the game unplayable:
It seems, that the client is unable to add new stuff to the cache?!?! everytime i get to something new the client crashes, if i start the game on a windows machine and copy over the cahe of the particular thing it works. quite anoying (especially for the guy with the windows machine).
Ah one more thing: the game crashes when i try to look at a stargate, but that might also be cause by the cache, dunno. flying to it while not looking at it works tho :)))
can anybody help? specs r:
Athlon 2500+
MSI Nvidia fx5900XT with driver ver. 6629(latest so far)
cedega 4.2 transgaming binary version(no cvs)
all that on at up to date Fedora Core 3 system(kde 3.3) (lots of 3rd party stuff like ATRPMS in it).
I use the "prefs.ini" someone postet in this forum earlier.
maybe someone who has most of the stuff in his cache already can upload it and post the link here, so the linux people can play :)
PS: Dont tell me to use windows as i dont have it and cannot install it on the machine.
You could try this, go into your config and set your working directory to wherever eve is. At that point it should be able to write to the directory no problem....i think :P
I've been trying to get this to work for a day now, and with the latest patch. The game doesn't even load for me. I dont know, i could have some setting wrong or something, tried it one Cedega 4.2 and 4.11 and a buncha others :P still doesn't like it. It just kinda looks like its going to start up then stops. Anyone got any ideas??
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The Burninator
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Posted - 2004.12.31 08:51:00 -
[132]
Upon further investigation my problem lied within point2play, as soon as I went to launch eve with the cedega eve.exe command, it worked flawlessly, up until it tried to load the character portraits at which point it crashes :P
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The Burninator
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Posted - 2004.12.31 08:51:00 -
[133]
Upon further investigation my problem lied within point2play, as soon as I went to launch eve with the cedega eve.exe command, it worked flawlessly, up until it tried to load the character portraits at which point it crashes :P
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The Burninator
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Posted - 2004.12.31 08:53:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Maveric7911
Edited by: Maveric7911 on 22/12/2004 17:12:01
every time I try to run the game in cedega I get this error.
1 : blue.BluePyOS: InitBasicModuleSupport() failed
0 : blue.BluePyOS: Unhandled Python exception: BluePyOS::PyError()
AttributeError: 'stackless.module' object has no attribute '_extension_registry'[
Any thoughts?
I have tried fresh installs from both 3106.exe and 3007.exe as well as just the folder from my windows drive I get the same error with all of these.
This sounds like something to do with Python, probably not up to date or a version that is not supported.
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The Burninator
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Posted - 2004.12.31 08:53:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Maveric7911
Edited by: Maveric7911 on 22/12/2004 17:12:01
every time I try to run the game in cedega I get this error.
1 : blue.BluePyOS: InitBasicModuleSupport() failed
0 : blue.BluePyOS: Unhandled Python exception: BluePyOS::PyError()
AttributeError: 'stackless.module' object has no attribute '_extension_registry'[
Any thoughts?
I have tried fresh installs from both 3106.exe and 3007.exe as well as just the folder from my windows drive I get the same error with all of these.
This sounds like something to do with Python, probably not up to date or a version that is not supported.
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Maveric7911
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Posted - 2005.01.07 16:34:00 -
[136]
Originally by: The Burninator
Originally by: Maveric7911
Edited by: Maveric7911 on 22/12/2004 17:12:01
every time I try to run the game in cedega I get this error.
1 : blue.BluePyOS: InitBasicModuleSupport() failed
0 : blue.BluePyOS: Unhandled Python exception: BluePyOS::PyError()
AttributeError: 'stackless.module' object has no attribute '_extension_registry'[
Any thoughts?
I have tried fresh installs from both 3106.exe and 3007.exe as well as just the folder from my windows drive I get the same error with all of these.
This sounds like something to do with Python, probably not up to date or a version that is not supported.
Ya thats possible I know a few others who get this. I know my python is up to date I am thinking it may just not be supported.
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Maveric7911
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Posted - 2005.01.07 17:10:00 -
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cedega eve.exe
root@SonicBoom EVE]# 0x900022ec:1: Event manual=1 signaled=0 name=""
0x90008eb0:1: Thread 0002 unix tid=3512 teb=0xa7fe8d60 state=1 process=0001
0x900022bc:1: Token owned by 0x90008dec
0x90008dec:1: Process 0001 next=(nil) prev=(nil) handles=(nil)
Well I now get to the splash screen but I get this anyone got any ideas? The splash screen comes up and then disapears and I get nothing.
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Strongbow
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Posted - 2005.01.07 18:24:00 -
[138]
Edited by: Strongbow on 07/01/2005 20:44:31
Does anyone reading this thred have a copy of the eve mouse fix mentioned it this Thread
I now have EvE running under Linux but am having the problem with the curser that makes the game very hard to play at present, ok for chatting and checking skills etc.
Maveric7911: we must stop meeting like this, people will start to talk :D, wish i could help you with your problem
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Claude Emaipart
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Posted - 2005.01.07 19:11:00 -
[139]
Edited by: Claude Emaipart on 07/01/2005 19:24:04
Originally by: Maveric7911
Edited by: Maveric7911 on 22/12/2004 18:27:32
Does the 'tool' run 'in' linux and give the user the ability to run a Windows application within the 'tool' that is running 'in' Linux? (yes)
You really are dumb arn't you. You have no clue what the "tool" does or how it works. An emulator creates a full enviroment of what you are tring to emulate "ie vmware or nes eviroments". Cedega how ever does not create this full enviroment, it brings in partial amounts of the windows system that is needed by games in order to run. Ie dx and a few other dll's.The game is still running under the native linux enviroment but once again in terms you can understand it has pointers to the areas of windows that it actually requires. Once again maybe you should go read and learn how things really work before you speak about things you don't have the slightest clue about. Now back to my orginal note as I said before this error I get is also the same exact error many windows users get, once again read the forums. So I was asking in this thread since their are linux users reading it to see if any of them are having this problem or have had this problem.
Thanks
If it is not ported to run as a native application, and uses anything to emulate the environment needed, it is an emulator, or at least an emulation tool.
If the application is ported, it is running as a native application.
Emulation is not only about the hardware, it can and is often (gasp) to emulate a software environment (omg). Imagine that...software that creates an environment that an application can run 'in' while using an OS that can not run the application in its native form.
Get out of the Linux zealot ms-hater mode, and face reality. He was correct, you are biased, and the tools used to run any Windows application in Linux are emulation environments. As far as your insulting the guy, that is very immature. Your argument was moot after that (who wants to read childish insults).
From what the DEV's of Eve have posted, they may port the code, and I like that. Linux is a great OS, and Eve would be a great addition to its appeal. Until then, I just run the program under it's native OS. Simple.
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Fer Blanc
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Posted - 2005.01.18 02:16:00 -
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1 : blue.BluePyOS: InitBasicModuleSupport() failed
0 : blue.BluePyOS: Unhandled Python exception: BluePyOS::PyError()
AttributeError: 'stackless.module' object has no attribute '_extension_registry'[
if you are getting that, then you are probably running through Point2Play which is borked.
install cedega normally and run the exe.exe file by hand, then it works perfect (except for that mouse thing)
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Fuse
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Posted - 2005.01.18 04:14:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Fer Blanc
1 : blue.BluePyOS: InitBasicModuleSupport() failed
0 : blue.BluePyOS: Unhandled Python exception: BluePyOS::PyError()
AttributeError: 'stackless.module' object has no attribute '_extension_registry'[
if you are getting that, then you are probably running through Point2Play which is borked.
install cedega normally and run the exe.exe file by hand, then it works perfect (except for that mouse thing)
Honestly, I don't feel like paying $5 per month to get a half a$$ runing game I would rather just install Windows 2000 clean on a second partition to run eve.
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Attrezzo Pox
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Posted - 2005.03.16 18:46:00 -
[142]
Originally by: Cortex Reaver
Edited by: Cortex Reaver on 18/05/2004 18:43:12
Drop the anti-Microsoft j!had. It's not becoming and quite frankly, makes you look like a fool to anyone with any real technical saavy. The ability to install the Linux Distro du jour, doesn't make you "1337." Infact, the browsing statistics collected on /. basically prove that the average Linux zealot actually runs Windows with a picture of Tux as their wallpaper.
I'm all for multi-platform clients. Infact, my primary OS at home and my preffered OS for most tasks is FreeBSD. My favorite OS, however, is the one that's right for the job. Argue with that!
The real problem in going forward with a viable multi-platform game client is the lack of a decent graphics API. OpenGL filled the role for a long time, but the world has really passed it by. It simply can't handle the lighting and shading features today's gamers demand. Even Id Software (John Carmack), a long time OpenGL devotee has recognized this. The engine for Doom III will be an OpenGL/DirectX-9 hybrid in order to achieve the desired effect.
If your time is so useless, that you wanna waste it trying to get DirectX working under Wine, then go for it. My freetime is in short supply and valuable, therefore I'd rather spend it playing EVE on a stable platform, and by your own admission, EVE under Wine is far from stable.
I want to add that since the game has gone retail, I've had exactly *ONE* CTD on my XP box. The stability of any platform really has more to do with the skill of the person administering the box than the avocacy ji!had that its owner is on.
-CR
Your mortal enemy installed gentoo stage 1, and you're jealous aren't you? It's ok man. You forget that it's people like the ones that posted in this forum that got everything in linux to work. People who wanted it to work because they could make it work. The same kind of people that make FreeBSD. If everyone just used the OS that was "right for the job" then we'd all still be running on unix or OS X. (though it would look different I bet if no one ever decided to make a competitive OS). Because those were first, so seeing as everyone would theoretically make software for the right OS for the job those would always be the ones people turned to. Get a life man. This forum is about fixing those problems in Linux us Linux users would appriciate. Sure there are some unrealistic posts about a linux client but we've all managed to ignore those, the least you could do if it bothers you so much is grow up and just skip the troll opporitunity. |
Attrezzo Pox
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Posted - 2005.03.16 19:00:00 -
[143]
For those of you that have gotten eve to work in linux could you help me out. I need some clues. do you guys find that copying the install from windows works better than useing the install in point2play. btw I'm currently running cedega 4.3 I've heard it's supposed to work best in that. I keep getting errors though when it runs, and I've been clued by one of the devs that "the Python error could possibly be solved be reinstalling the game to a different location using the full client build". It's a python error in blue.dll. Everytime I start the game it pops open a window and then crashs the winex logs aren't helpful but I get this from the eve client
#errors b321 2005.03.15 22.42.14.txt
File created 2005.03.15 22:42:14
1 : blue.BluePyOS: Unhandled Python exception: BluePyOS::PyError()
AttributeError: 'stackless.module' object has no attribute '_extension_registry'0 : blue.BluePyOS: InitBasicModuleSupport() failed
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Attrezzo Pox
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Posted - 2005.03.16 19:06:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Maveric7911
cedega eve.exe
root@SonicBoom EVE]# 0x900022ec:1: Event manual=1 signaled=0 name=""
0x90008eb0:1: Thread 0002 unix tid=3512 teb=0xa7fe8d60 state=1 process=0001
0x900022bc:1: Token owned by 0x90008dec
0x90008dec:1: Process 0001 next=(nil) prev=(nil) handles=(nil)
Well I now get to the splash screen but I get this anyone got any ideas? The splash screen comes up and then disapears and I get nothing.
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Attrezzo Pox
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Posted - 2005.03.16 19:07:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Fer Blanc
1 : blue.BluePyOS: InitBasicModuleSupport() failed
0 : blue.BluePyOS: Unhandled Python exception: BluePyOS::PyError()
AttributeError: 'stackless.module' object has no attribute '_extension_registry'[
if you are getting that, then you are probably running through Point2Play which is borked.
install cedega normally and run the exe.exe file by hand, then it works perfect (except for that mouse thing)
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Ticondrius
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Posted - 2005.03.16 19:42:00 -
[146]
Edited by: Ticondrius on 16/03/2005 19:46:40
Someone had sorted out the mouse poitner issue once I'd thought. w2ish I could find the post. GODDAMNIT CCP! GIVE US A FORUM SEARCH! Is it THAT hard? (No...)
Anyway...Haven't tried Winex lately. Any luck? The big problem with the white screens is the DX9 shaders AFAIK. WineX doesn't support them yet.
TomB, if there was a way to disable some of the advanced DX9 stuff in the prefs.ini file, that's go a very long way to letting us run EVE in Linux.
Ok, this interested me greatly, is this a REAL SS, or is something pulling our collective leg?
Piccy
"If I'm brutally honest and it offends you, that's not my fault."
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.03.16 20:28:00 -
[147]
Interesting, but you would have to be a fool to trust it in pvp.
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Elissen
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Posted - 2005.03.16 20:28:00 -
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A month ago or so I tried it with a friend to get it going under Linux (HL-2 ran very smooth on his box under linux). We got to the character selection screen when it crahsed, and I think at the point where it renders the portraits.
Beats the previous time when we tried; the installer didn't even run back then
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rowbin hod
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Posted - 2005.03.16 20:47:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Elissen
A month ago or so I tried it with a friend to get it going under Linux (HL-2 ran very smooth on his box under linux). We got to the character selection screen when it crahsed, and I think at the point where it renders the portraits.
People have mentioned this before. Under linux eve seems unable to render cahrshots at all. One solution people cam up with was to make sure you copy your cache over so that all the little piccies are already available.
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aeti
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Posted - 2005.03.16 21:06:00 -
[150]
Originally by: Ticondrius
Ok, this interested me greatly, is this a REAL SS, or is something pulling our collective leg?
Piccy
very much real
it works fine now, and I have flown around and shot ppl etc with it
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rowbin hod
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Posted - 2005.03.16 21:15:00 -
[151]
Originally by: aeti
very much real
it works fine now, and I have flown around and shot ppl etc with it
whatwhatwhatwhat?????
Tell me everything!!!! What distro, what version of cedega, python etc... what process did you do when you installed it - i want a detailed exact step by step guide!!!!!
OMG, maybe i can get rid of Xp \o/
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Ticondrius
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Posted - 2005.03.16 22:41:00 -
[152]
Ditto... EVE is the ONLY thing making me to continue to feed the M$ monster. If we can get someone to post a complete HowTO, it deserves to be stikied ASAP.
"If I'm brutally honest and it offends you, that's not my fault."
(\_/)
(O.o)
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ElfeGER
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Posted - 2005.03.16 23:47:00 -
[153]
Originally by: Ticondrius
Edited by: Ticondrius on 16/03/2005 19:46:40
Someone had sorted out the mouse poitner issue once I'd thought. w2ish I could find the post. GODDAMNIT CCP! GIVE US A FORUM SEARCH! Is it THAT hard? (No...)
Anyway...Haven't tried Winex lately. Any luck? The big problem with the white screens is the DX9 shaders AFAIK. WineX doesn't support them yet.
TomB, if there was a way to disable some of the advanced DX9 stuff in the prefs.ini file, that's go a very long way to letting us run EVE in Linux.
Ok, this interested me greatly, is this a REAL SS, or is something pulling our collective leg?
Piccy
do you mean http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/wiki/index.php/Eve_Online??
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Sirisu
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Posted - 2005.03.17 00:36:00 -
[154]
I've been playing eve with linux since last year.
You need Cedega 4.3, which i'm using on Debian unstable, Kernel 2.6.10 with NVidia drivers.
It's working well enough for a carebear like me 
PvP would not be as good as with windows, because eve is 50%-60% slower with linux.
I get crashes when i'm near Minmatar gates or stations, but why should i go there anyway...
Perhaps when you zoom all the way out it could work, i didn't test that tough.
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Buri Niflheim
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Posted - 2005.06.15 20:25:00 -
[155]
Edited by: Buri Niflheim on 15/06/2005 20:26:35
Edited by: Buri Niflheim on 15/06/2005 20:26:20
ive got eve running under cedega well enough to do combat in and without it crashing, still have mouse pointer issues though. I fixed them once accidentally and then went and fiddled with more settings to get performance up and whatever i did broke them again. i really wish i remember what i did - ill keep fiddling.
gentoo amd64 with cedega 4.3 btw and a geforce 6600gt (so nvidia drivers - pretty win with linux support)
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OffBeaT
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Posted - 2005.06.15 21:58:00 -
[156]
Edited by: OffBeaT on 15/06/2005 22:01:32
i never could understand linux users when it came too working it for gamming.
any os that is open source for all too mess with is just a hackers dream.
linux is only good for the office/servers.
i could see no real use for it too the home user.
the only good i see with that os, is it uses less resources and will run better on weaker pc's, if you can get software too work with it.
thou, i am no pro with it.
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Kane Ululani
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Posted - 2005.06.15 23:17:00 -
[157]
Edited by: Kane Ululani on 15/06/2005 23:17:57
Quote:
i never could understand linux users when it came too working it for gamming.
Because they are enthusiasts who like to tinker. Like people who overclock hardware or install intercoolers and nitrous kits on their cars.
It's also a challenge. They like to solve hard problems. I have found these very useful employees.
Quote:
any os that is open source for all too mess with is just a hackers dream.
Most security professionals use linux, freebsd, or openbsd in their jobs and on their networks. I use all
3 for specific purposes. Windows is trash for security, but great for gaming.
BTW, UNIX is open source. UNIX variants are the only B-1, B-2 rated OS's under the Orange guidelines. These are used as guards between very secure networks.
http://www.levenez.com/unix/ Unix History
Further, NSA choose Linux for SELinux, their secure port with mandatory access control built into the kernel. NSA was forced to give it up by the MS lobby. (Don't even start with the tinfoil hat, all of the code has been audited)
Quote:
linux is only good for the office/servers.
the only good i see with that os, is it uses less resources and will run better on weaker pc's, if you can get software too work with it.
Beowulf Clusters - Massively Multi-Parallel Supercomputing
http://extremelinux.esd.ornl.gov Oak Ridge National Laboratories
http://www.llnl.gov/linux/mcr/ Lawrence Livermore National Labs
I can also post some links from CERN if you like?
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Domalais
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Posted - 2005.06.16 03:05:00 -
[158]
Originally by: Kane Ululani
BTW, UNIX is open source.
Incorrect. Linux is open source. UNIX is a commercial product.
Similarly, net/free/open/dragonfly BSDs are open source, straight BSD and OS X are both commercial BSD-based products.
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Aodha Khan
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Posted - 2005.06.16 07:17:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Kane Ululani
Quote:
any os that is open source for all too mess with is just a hackers dream.
Most security professionals use linux, freebsd, or openbsd in their jobs and on their networks. I use all
3 for specific purposes. Windows is trash for security, but great for gaming.
Quote:
linux is only good for the office/servers.
the only good i see with that os, is it uses less resources and will run better on weaker pc's, if you can get software too work with it.
Linux has more security problems than Windows.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2002182315_security17.html
http://www.vnunet.com/news/1161323
http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic3136.html
http://www.newsfactor.com/perl/story/19649.html
http://www.zone-h.org/winvslinux
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Capsicum
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Posted - 2005.06.16 07:21:00 -
[160]
This thread is over a year old, necromancy is bad m'kay?.
Any new discussions about EVE and Linux really belong
here
Thanks.
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