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Nemesis I	Posted - 2004.05.18 14:59:00 - [31] I use linux within XP, seems to solve everything! Still have the Spectrum - 'now entering space' (tm) program, for those who want to work on the script, to get in the extra stuff.. like ships, database, internet etc etc. Nem
poldi	Posted - 2004.05.19 16:49:00 - [32] Thanks for all the neat posts :) i appriciate that. But as i read through the posts again and again a strange feeling overcame me: It seems that they didnt realy answer my question about the strange crash when trying to start EVE. Fact for me ist: I like Linux and i work with it. In everydaywork its damn good(Im a student in computer science). I cant switch to windows cause, i must not reboot my machine for several reasons. Anyway, i wouldnt want to ... Well, so much about the flame. Does anybody run this under linux? And would he be so kind, to help me with this?
Moornblade	Posted - 2004.06.13 21:04:00 - [33] Hmmm...Original poster must have done something sneaky to install eve in linux. I keep getting the plugins directory can not be found. Hmm..... Perhaps copying some native win98 dlls over will help....
Trianon Starstealer	Posted - 2004.06.13 21:59:00 - [34] Originally by: Cortex Reaver Edited by: Cortex Reaver on 18/05/2004 18:43:12 Drop the anti-Microsoft j!had. It's not becoming and quite frankly, makes you look like a fool to anyone with any real technical saavy. The ability to install the Linux Distro du jour, doesn't make you "1337." Infact, the browsing statistics collected on /. basically prove that the average Linux zealot actually runs Windows with a picture of Tux as their wallpaper. I'm all for multi-platform clients. Infact, my primary OS at home and my preffered OS for most tasks is FreeBSD. My favorite OS, however, is the one that's right for the job. Argue with that! The real problem in going forward with a viable multi-platform game client is the lack of a decent graphics API. OpenGL filled the role for a long time, but the world has really passed it by. It simply can't handle the lighting and shading features today's gamers demand. Even Id Software (John Carmack), a long time OpenGL devotee has recognized this. The engine for Doom III will be an OpenGL/DirectX-9 hybrid in order to achieve the desired effect. If your time is so useless, that you wanna waste it trying to get DirectX working under Wine, then go for it. My freetime is in short supply and valuable, therefore I'd rather spend it playing EVE on a stable platform, and by your own admission, EVE under Wine is far from stable. I want to add that since the game has gone retail, I've had exactly ONE CTD on my XP box. The stability of any platform really has more to do with the skill of the person administering the box than the avocacy ji!had that its owner is on. -CR You give sh\|t to people who prefer to play under linux and who are willing to spend time getting it to work, and then when someone critises the overweight, bloated, bug ridden security hole that IS Windows you start crying like a jerk and claim nobody knows what they are doing and it all a plot against good old Microsoft.......... OK, I run Linux as a preferred OS and Windows as a preferred Gaming system (unless a game has a native installer for Linux in which case I would use that). Your comments in both posts you made demonstrate one thing....... you don't have a clue....
Postman	Posted - 2004.06.13 22:52:00 - [35] There is a company that makes MacOS, Linux, PS2, Xbox, etc ports of popular games. Maybe trying to bug that company to make a port for EVE would have more succes then bugging WineX to implement DX9 (btw, isn't WineX something you have to pay for?). Or go work at CCP and help them port the game to Linux/MacOS themself. ----------------------- EVE-DB Staff member
Cetshwayo	Posted - 2004.06.14 01:13:00 - [36] Indeed there is a company. Loki Games or something like that. Check out www.lokigames.com I got my Quake 3 from them (looooong time ago) and it works pretty good. Though Quake 3 already does use OpenGL... However I doubt that they will create an EVE port when the client is constantly being updated through patches and so forth.
Scorpyn	Posted - 2004.06.14 01:19:00 - [37] Edited by: Scorpyn on 14/06/2004 01:22:41 I'm not sure, but I think Loki Games are out of business... at least they stopped for a while Edit : Checked their website... maybe it was just their store that was closed? They haven't updated their news for a long time though...
Non Serviam	Posted - 2004.06.24 08:27:00 - [38] Edited by: Non Serviam on 24/06/2004 08:31:00 Edited by: Non Serviam on 24/06/2004 08:30:35 Tried it and all that i'm getting is: bash-2.05b$ cedega -use-pthreads yes --use-dos-cwd /home/ch/.point2play/Eve/c_drive/Program\ Files/CCP/EVE /home/ch/.point2play/Eve/c_drive/Program\ Files/CCP/EVE/eve.exe 'import site' failed; use -v for traceback sounds like a python error msg for me. ne1 got that error too? or even knows how to fix it? Edit: can someone with a "working" config post his prefs.ini pls
Cortex Reaver	Posted - 2004.06.24 10:02:00 - [39] Originally by: Trianon Starstealer Originally by: Cortex Reaver Edited by: Cortex Reaver on 18/05/2004 18:43:12 Drop the anti-Microsoft j!had. It's not becoming and quite frankly, makes you look like a fool to anyone with any real technical saavy. The ability to install the Linux Distro du jour, doesn't make you "1337." Infact, the browsing statistics collected on /. basically prove that the average Linux zealot actually runs Windows with a picture of Tux as their wallpaper. You give sh\|t to people who prefer to play under linux and who are willing to spend time getting it to work, and then when someone critises the overweight, bloated, bug ridden security hole that IS Windows you start crying like a jerk and claim nobody knows what they are doing and it all a plot against good old Microsoft.......... OK, I run Linux as a preferred OS and Windows as a preferred Gaming system (unless a game has a native installer for Linux in which case I would use that). Your comments in both posts you made demonstrate one thing....... you don't have a clue.... HAHAHAHA Yeah, I'll just reffer you back to the first paragraph you quoted. -CR /* Cortex Reaver crtxreavr at trioptimum dot com "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, 1759 */
Kintac	Posted - 2004.06.25 08:20:00 - [40] Hi, anyone tried running EvE with Cedega 4.0 ? Which configurations did you make (Prefs.ini, or Cedega¦s config file ) ?
Kintac	Posted - 2004.06.25 08:22:00 - [41] Hi, anyone tried running EvE with Cedega 4.0 ? Which configurations did you make (Prefs.ini, or Cedega¦s config file ) ?
SwitchBl4d3	Posted - 2004.06.25 08:27:00 - [42] FAILING ALL THIS USE WINDOWS IT WORKS FINE FOR ME. "Teh lord of Nonni"
Psilocybe Cubensis	Posted - 2004.06.25 09:20:00 - [43] Originally by: SwitchBl4d3 FAILING ALL THIS USE WINDOWS IT WORKS FINE FOR ME. Sigh.. funny guy number 6. I'm not even going to try to explain it. Originally by: Kintac anyone tried running EvE with Cedega 4.0 ? Which configurations did you make (Prefs.ini, or Cedega¦s config file ) ? I only had to turn off advancedDevice=1 in my prefs.ini because EVE crashed when I undocked with that setting turned on. I still haven't been able to get rid of the white menus though :( That would make EVE instantly playable on Linux for me. (And yes I'm a flower-smelling hippy.) -- Lisp is the red pill.
C4w3	Posted - 2004.06.25 09:44:00 - [44] I for one would like to see more multiplatform games, iw also tried to get EVE to work on nix but expirienced same problems as the rest of you lot, direct X is a major issue and the 100¦s of programs like winex. (My comment to the l33tness of running nix or win, imho same **** diffrent name, but some things are easier to do in nix and some thing are better in win enviroment, if i wanna run eg network testing enviroments or not invest 10000000 $ on a database test setup might use nix code is open so programming makes it alot easier) anyway my 200ú It¦s summer grab that beer get out in the sun with family and friends i promise EVE will still be here in 1 month ;0) Sincearly C4w3 CEO Corp 1 Field Marshal of the Curse Forces. "If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I will pull out a conventional one.
Non Serviam	Posted - 2004.06.25 13:50:00 - [45] Edited by: Non Serviam on 25/06/2004 13:52:10 @switchblade: u replied to the wrong topic, post ur detailed explanation of how u managed to get eve running on windows here pls. the nobel prize committee has been informed about ur outstanding achievements allready. back to the topic can someone who got it running pls post something about their config(kernel version, nvidia/ati gpu, prepackaged cedega/cvs compile, point2play/command line, cedega config, pref.ini, did u use the eve client installed in ur "real" windows partition/install in the "fake" cedega c-drive) thanx in advance ps: mine is still crashing before i get to the login screen, shows the startup image, the eula screen doesn't come up(kernel 2.6.7, radeon9800pro/driver version 3.9, prepacked cedega, not using point2play coz starting it with point2play it even doesn't show the startup pic, installed a new client in the "fake" c-drive)
Psilocybe Cubensis	Posted - 2004.06.25 19:14:00 - [46] Originally by: Non Serviam can someone who got it running pls post something about their config(kernel version, nvidia/ati gpu, prepackaged cedega/cvs compile, point2play/command line, cedega config, pref.ini, did u use the eve client installed in ur "real" windows partition/install in the "fake" cedega c-drive) Righto, here we go: Kernel 2.4.20, NVIDIA FX5700, prepackaged Cedega 4.0, commandline, copied the EVE install from my Windows partition to my Transgaming_drive. prefs.ini ========= advancedDevice=1 buffersize=80 debug=0 decimal=. desktopHeight=768 desktopPrimary=0 desktopSetup=1 desktopWidth=1024 digit=, eulaagreed=1367194830 eveampGain=0.795698924731 evevoiceGain=0.55 host=0 inputhost=localhost masterVolume=0.903225806452 messagePeriod=200 music=stop network=0 networkAdvanced=0 newbie=0 password=:i_r_l337: PatchDownloadPath=http://eve.skjalfti.is port=26000 savepasswords=1 texelalign=0.0 uiampGain=0.4 username=lord_zap (I need to set advancedDevice=0 to prevent crashing when undocking.) Cedega config is unchanged from the installed version. -- Lisp is the red pill.
Non Serviam	Posted - 2004.06.26 11:33:00 - [47] i can fully understand that there will be no native linux eve client, it's sort of impossible after choosing direct3d to render the graphics but would it be possible to contact transgaming and support em to get it running using cedega? or at least to support us who are working on it by giving us documentation of all graphics related prefs.ini options?
Xeria	Posted - 2004.06.26 20:37:00 - [48] Hey, When i run the client, (which i installed and patched from cd) i get the splash screen, the the client window opens, but the splash screen never disappears and the window is grey (not white). Bit confused at whats going on. The first message i always get is 'import site' failed; use -v for traceback Any idea what that means? Your Tachyon Beam Laser I places an excellent hit on arkad [MOO], inflicting 702.3 damage.
Xeria	Posted - 2004.06.26 20:45:00 - [49] Originally by: Non Serviam i can fully understand that there will be no native linux eve client, it's sort of impossible after choosing direct3d to render the graphics but would it be possible to contact transgaming and support em to get it running using cedega? or at least to support us who are working on it by giving us documentation of all graphics related prefs.ini options? The prefs.ini is part of eve, not winex Your Tachyon Beam Laser I places an excellent hit on arkad [MOO], inflicting 702.3 damage.
Captain Brownfinger	Posted - 2004.06.26 22:37:00 - [50] Hey Cortex why gotta be such a ***** about this ? You obviously have no interest in this thread other to insult people who like linux and would really like to play thier games under that os. If those people want to spend thier time experimenting with these things then let them. You learn far more about computers this way. Bottom line is if you got nothing constructive to add dont be a loser and insult for no reason.
Caesium	Posted - 2004.06.26 22:50:00 - [51] no love with kernel 2.6.7 x.org ati 3.9.0 and cedega or current cvs, I suspect it's due to the ati drivers tho with the previous version I could atleast get the pure white login screen.
Non Serviam	Posted - 2004.06.26 23:56:00 - [52] Originally by: Xeria Originally by: Non Serviam i can fully understand that there will be no native linux eve client, it's sort of impossible after choosing direct3d to render the graphics but would it be possible to contact transgaming and support em to get it running using cedega? or at least to support us who are working on it by giving us documentation of all graphics related prefs.ini options? The prefs.ini is part of eve, not winex that might be the reason i'm asking ccp to release documentation, not transgaming ;) site.py is a file used for local "site" python config which is imported using an "import site" command. i think this error message isn't related to our problems, but that's only my 0.02 isk any dev available to comment on the possibility of releasing documentation for prefs.ini option? eve was running very well using winex during beta(before the d3d9 effects were introduced) btw so most important would be any options to disable some of those effects.
Xeria	Posted - 2004.06.27 14:30:00 - [53] Originally by: KIAHicks btw if anyone finds out why the login screen is flat white and can solve that problem give me a shout as that will probably be why the main windows when playing are white.. If we can resolve that then I can play eve in linux properly, rather than just training skills/chatting :) I can confirm that the flat white login screen is caused by the graphics driver NOT winex. I have run eve on my server board which has a pathetic for gaming, acceptable for server... trident cyberblade, with white login screen. Therefore i would consider the problem to be driver related. Your Tachyon Beam Laser I places an excellent hit on arkad [MOO], inflicting 702.3 damage.
SatireWolf	Posted - 2004.07.07 21:41:00 - [54] I don't think the problem is purely driver related. I'm running Fedora Core 2, on an AMD64 (32bit version of Fedora) with 1024MB of ram, and a Geforce FX5700 256MB (128bit memory bus). I'm using the latest nVidia drivers that were released a few days ago (61.06 x86-linux). I was running the 2.6.7 kernel stock, but I switched over to a stock fedora kernel for testing. My kernel version is 2.6.6-1.435.2.3. To get cedega to work correctly on fedora I first had to disable prelinking in /etc/sysconfig/prelink and run the cron.daily prelink job. Then I had to disable the exec-shield kernel option in /proc/sys/kernel/exec-shield and /proc/sys/kernel/exec-shield-randomize. After all that cedega installed eve just fine. Before that though I was getting an error 21 from cedega 4. So long story short, my config is fine, but I get a white screen when I first start it up as well as the site.py error. I think the white screen is more of a start up problem. I'm going to try copying my stock windows install to this system later and see what happens. I'll just have to zip it up and burn it on dvd or something. I think this will work, it's just that there's something missing when you just do a clean install from the downloadable copy of EVE. I'll keep trying... If I can get this to work I'll write up a howto and put up a web page about it.
SatireWolf	Posted - 2004.07.07 21:41:00 - [55] I don't think the problem is purely driver related. I'm running Fedora Core 2, on an AMD64 (32bit version of Fedora) with 1024MB of ram, and a Geforce FX5700 256MB (128bit memory bus). I'm using the latest nVidia drivers that were released a few days ago (61.06 x86-linux). I was running the 2.6.7 kernel stock, but I switched over to a stock fedora kernel for testing. My kernel version is 2.6.6-1.435.2.3. To get cedega to work correctly on fedora I first had to disable prelinking in /etc/sysconfig/prelink and run the cron.daily prelink job. Then I had to disable the exec-shield kernel option in /proc/sys/kernel/exec-shield and /proc/sys/kernel/exec-shield-randomize. After all that cedega installed eve just fine. Before that though I was getting an error 21 from cedega 4. So long story short, my config is fine, but I get a white screen when I first start it up as well as the site.py error. I think the white screen is more of a start up problem. I'm going to try copying my stock windows install to this system later and see what happens. I'll just have to zip it up and burn it on dvd or something. I think this will work, it's just that there's something missing when you just do a clean install from the downloadable copy of EVE. I'll keep trying... If I can get this to work I'll write up a howto and put up a web page about it.
SatireWolf	Posted - 2004.07.07 21:46:00 - [56] Originally by: Psilocybe Cubensis Originally by: Non Serviam can someone who got it running pls post something about their config(kernel version, nvidia/ati gpu, prepackaged cedega/cvs compile, point2play/command line, cedega config, pref.ini, did u use the eve client installed in ur "real" windows partition/install in the "fake" cedega c-drive) Righto, here we go: Kernel 2.4.20, NVIDIA FX5700, prepackaged Cedega 4.0, commandline, copied the EVE install from my Windows partition to my Transgaming_drive. prefs.ini ========= advancedDevice=1 buffersize=80 debug=0 decimal=. desktopHeight=768 desktopPrimary=0 desktopSetup=1 desktopWidth=1024 digit=, eulaagreed=1367194830 eveampGain=0.795698924731 evevoiceGain=0.55 host=0 inputhost=localhost masterVolume=0.903225806452 messagePeriod=200 music=stop network=0 networkAdvanced=0 newbie=0 password=:i_r_l337: PatchDownloadPath=http://eve.skjalfti.is port=26000 savepasswords=1 texelalign=0.0 uiampGain=0.4 username=lord_zap (I need to set advancedDevice=0 to prevent crashing when undocking.) Cedega config is unchanged from the installed version. Psilocybe what linux distro and version etc are you running? Also what nvidia drivers are you using?
SatireWolf	Posted - 2004.07.07 21:46:00 - [57] Originally by: Psilocybe Cubensis Originally by: Non Serviam can someone who got it running pls post something about their config(kernel version, nvidia/ati gpu, prepackaged cedega/cvs compile, point2play/command line, cedega config, pref.ini, did u use the eve client installed in ur "real" windows partition/install in the "fake" cedega c-drive) Righto, here we go: Kernel 2.4.20, NVIDIA FX5700, prepackaged Cedega 4.0, commandline, copied the EVE install from my Windows partition to my Transgaming_drive. prefs.ini ========= advancedDevice=1 buffersize=80 debug=0 decimal=. desktopHeight=768 desktopPrimary=0 desktopSetup=1 desktopWidth=1024 digit=, eulaagreed=1367194830 eveampGain=0.795698924731 evevoiceGain=0.55 host=0 inputhost=localhost masterVolume=0.903225806452 messagePeriod=200 music=stop network=0 networkAdvanced=0 newbie=0 password=:i_r_l337: PatchDownloadPath=http://eve.skjalfti.is port=26000 savepasswords=1 texelalign=0.0 uiampGain=0.4 username=lord_zap (I need to set advancedDevice=0 to prevent crashing when undocking.) Cedega config is unchanged from the installed version. Psilocybe what linux distro and version etc are you running? Also what nvidia drivers are you using?
SubSeven	Posted - 2004.07.07 21:50:00 - [58] Great Work KIA!! Maybe if EVE was running on Linux vs Windows, you wouldn't get all the memory leaks that you even encounter from sitting in a station and doing nothing to PVPing,etc. I would definately pay for a version of EVE for LINUX if it ever came available!
SubSeven	Posted - 2004.07.07 21:50:00 - [59] Great Work KIA!! Maybe if EVE was running on Linux vs Windows, you wouldn't get all the memory leaks that you even encounter from sitting in a station and doing nothing to PVPing,etc. I would definately pay for a version of EVE for LINUX if it ever came available!
SubSeven	Posted - 2004.07.07 21:51:00 - [60] Edited by: SubSeven on 07/07/2004 21:55:29 Damn Double Post!

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