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StevieSG	Posted - 2008.01.23 17:46:00 - [211] Sounds strange but I'd be interested in the following: When Fat Kids Attack The five Atlas Green alliance could be fun to watch.. OMG ROFL KFC WTF http://www.eve-online.tv/default.aspx
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.01.23 17:54:00 - [212] All I can say is that if Star Fraction was to win this time I'd be in favour of agreeing to fight an exhibition match with Hun afterwards and give them half the prizes if they beat us. (if they fail to get into the tourney on the reserve list that is). Eve TV could always film it too "I might not have meant anything by it"
Eol Galathil Gallente The Nexus Foundation Endless Horizon	Posted - 2008.01.23 18:02:00 - [213] Edited by: Eol Galathil on 23/01/2008 18:04:22 Originally by: StevieSG I've got it: They let everyone in.. We have 400 matches spanning about two months..I'm sure everyone has enough time to construct the same team for the weekends over two months? Yes? No, better idea.. We have a year long battle, run the same as a football tournie.. even worse. Okay wait.. They only let super-power teams in... new talented alliances can go away.. No... They only let new players in... screw the old regime.. No.. I've got it...! 40 teams, first come first serve and if you were somewhere else at the time of sign-ups , you know what?- Pick a team and support them as you would your own; the same as any sport. Better luck next time. All this stuff about hollow victory is ridiculous. I'd rather fight a team that really wanted to be there tbh. Give alliances a seeding according to their performance in previous tournaments and preference according to that, seedings would also help to split the teams up into fair groups, it's essentially the way every major tourney is the world works. Eve is becoming far too big for a first come first serve system and this would be the only option as i see it
Evil Edna Seal Cub Clubbing Club	Posted - 2008.01.23 18:09:00 - [214] or you could, you know, not make overblown examples and fallacious attempts at humour, and, shocker here, help come up with a solution that allows more teams to participate in a workable way, for the benefit of both the tournament as a whole and the teams. wildcat has offered in literally every single thread about this to come up with a bracket system that works if noone else is capable/wanting to. maybe take him up on that hmm?
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.23 19:01:00 - [215] Edited by: An Anarchyyt on 23/01/2008 19:01:38 Originally by: StevieSG The five I'm sure they'll be the same BoB they were last time. I don't know the other three, but I can only assume When Fat Kids Attack has to be an alt-alliance. If not, they just sound stupid. The last alliance tournament was the bset so far, and I guess it is going to stay that way. Perhaps instead, I'll just switch on the world cup final between Burkina Faso and Ghana. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Ituralde The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.23 20:03:00 - [216] So, say this whole 'reserve list' idea really takes off. Say it's used for the next tourney, where most likely even more alliances will sign on. Say you have a couple people out there with a couple billion looking to make some more. Next time you get something like this, a bunch of them sign up some alliances as 'competitors' and force legit contenders to bribe them out of the tourney. They either screw over legit alliances and force them to pay extra to get in or they stay in and the tourney is half **** just because some rich entrepreneurs decided to jump the gun with a billion ISK each looking to make a buck. Now, as nobody knew what would happen, I'd say that this certainly isn't the case this time. But really? I think a bad precedent is being set. The simple story of EVE is that more and more PVP alliances are really stepping up to the plate and becoming capable of fielding credible tourney teams. And the game is only growing. Frankly, if you want tourneys to be a success, you do have to accommodate for this growth. CCP has done so quite well in the past so I honestly don't see why a solution can't be found now and in the future to sort this out. When push comes to shove, it's not an Alliance tourney if most of the major alliances and major teams can't even get in. _____________________________ Fear is the mind-killer.
Sinsalura id TECH	Posted - 2008.01.23 20:57:00 - [217] Originally by: StevieSG I've got it: They let everyone in.. We have 400 matches spanning about two months..I'm sure everyone has enough time to construct the same team for the weekends over two months? Yes? No, better idea.. We have a year long battle, run the same as a football tournie.. even worse. Okay wait.. They only let super-power teams in... new talented alliances can go away.. No... They only let new players in... screw the old regime.. No.. I've got it...! 40 teams, first come first serve and if you were somewhere else at the time of sign-ups , you know what?- Pick a team and support them as you would your own; the same as any sport. Better luck next time. All this stuff about hollow victory is ridiculous. I'd rather fight a team that really wanted to be there tbh. This year the 40 slots were filled in 2 days, next year, how fast will those 40 spots go? First come first serve is a BAD system for EVE tournaments; that ultimately will benefit some and disadvantage others depending on the time signups open. ~ id TECH ~ now recruiting
011010110101101	Posted - 2008.01.23 20:59:00 - [218] Originally by: Sinsalura Originally by: StevieSG I've got it: They let everyone in.. We have 400 matches spanning about two months..I'm sure everyone has enough time to construct the same team for the weekends over two months? Yes? No, better idea.. We have a year long battle, run the same as a football tournie.. even worse. Okay wait.. They only let super-power teams in... new talented alliances can go away.. No... They only let new players in... screw the old regime.. No.. I've got it...! 40 teams, first come first serve and if you were somewhere else at the time of sign-ups , you know what?- Pick a team and support them as you would your own; the same as any sport. Better luck next time. All this stuff about hollow victory is ridiculous. I'd rather fight a team that really wanted to be there tbh. This year the 40 slots were filled in 2 days, next year, how fast will those 40 spots go? First come first serve is a BAD system for EVE tournaments; that ultimately will benefit some and disadvantage others depending on the time signups open. but last time, 40 slots took 10 days to fill, and people needed poking to get that many. so yeah, maybe next time it needs rethinking, but this time, based on previous events, it didn't
QwaarJet Gallente hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.01.23 21:07:00 - [219] Originally by: An Anarchyyt Edited by: An Anarchyyt on 23/01/2008 19:01:38 Originally by: StevieSG The five I'm sure they'll be the same BoB they were last time. I don't know the other three, but I can only assume When Fat Kids Attack has to be an alt-alliance. If not, they just sound stupid. The last alliance tournament was the bset so far, and I guess it is going to stay that way. Perhaps instead, I'll just switch on the world cup final between Burkina Faso and Ghana. WFKA have I believe the likes of x13 and Cosmic Fusion in them, so they are pretty good. Know nothing about Green Alliance. The Five.....well I hope they don't win it that's for sure. Atlas were good last tourney, maybe this time will exit in the Quarter Finals.
Ohne Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.01.23 21:24:00 - [220] Originally by: StevieSG I've got it: They let everyone in.. We have 400 matches spanning about two months..I'm sure everyone has enough time to construct the same team for the weekends over two months? Yes? No, better idea.. We have a year long battle, run the same as a football tournie.. even worse. Okay wait.. They only let super-power teams in... new talented alliances can go away.. No... They only let new players in... screw the old regime.. No.. I've got it...! 40 teams, first come first serve and if you were somewhere else at the time of sign-ups , you know what?- Pick a team and support them as you would your own; the same as any sport. Better luck next time. All this stuff about hollow victory is ridiculous. I'd rather fight a team that really wanted to be there tbh. ...
firefly5000 Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.01.24 00:08:00 - [221] I got a good plan make a 2nd torment for wild cards so if team A vs Team B loser get out and so on so tell the finals they can jump in and join the main torment
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.01.24 01:25:00 - [222] Anyoen that says it woudl be interested in watchign fat kids versus green alliance instead of Agaisnt All Authorities versus Band of brothers, shoudl not even be allowed to dare to speak about pvp again.. ever.... Evil Thug swearign in russian is worth more than all those unknown alliances combined could do! NExt thing people will say they prefer to watch caracals blow than see Tyrrax blow a unique ship in a tournament ( I am sure his low reserves on unique ships will change someday :) ) ------------------------------------------------- If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.01.24 05:05:00 - [223] Next time just send out an invitation to the final 16 a week or two prior to open sign-ups and there will be no more messes like this. If they fail to sign back up during that period then they shouldn't be in and that's still less than half the slots slated for previously successful teams. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
QwaarJet Gallente hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.01.24 05:21:00 - [224] Also, now that the teams are confirmed, when can we expect the group stage drawing?
Celedris Stimulus	Posted - 2008.01.24 06:22:00 - [225] Originally by: StevieSG I've got it: They let everyone in.. We have 400 matches spanning about two months..I'm sure everyone has enough time to construct the same team for the weekends over two months? Yes? ... All this stuff about hollow victory is ridiculous. I'd rather fight a team that really wanted to be there tbh. This is an asinine post. An alliance's executor happened to be away from Eve in the 2-day window in which they are afforded to sign up; Oh hay guys I guess those defending champions "didn't really want to be there tbh" Of course it's a hollow victory when half of the top teams -including last year's victor- are arbitrarily excluded from the event due to the rather sophomoric sign-up procedure. There will very likely be one-man alliances signing up next time if the current rules go unaltered. As a purely practical matter, many of the alliances would set aside two or three teams to try and guarantee they will get a spot. And hey, if you get more than one of your teams in, just sell your extra spots to the unlucky suckers who didn't spam their refresh buttons as fast as you did. Because you really wanted to be there.
Evil Pookie BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2008.01.24 10:11:00 - [226] Edited by: Evil Pookie on 24/01/2008 10:12:34 I dont know why you are arguing with stevie. She is not in charge of the tournament. She is hardly an expert on pvp. To be honest i think stevie got the job because she was the first chick that they asked to do eve-tv that was not horrified at the thought of having to deal with internet spaceships nerds on a regular basis. yes, i am talking to you, dont think i'm talking about the other internet spaceships nerds. you, reading this thread, are that internet spaceships nerd! edited because i cant spell teh internetz
Larno Gallente Deadly Addiction	Posted - 2008.01.24 12:25:00 - [227] Whoever decided there was going to be a limited number of slots is an idiot. Whoever also decided that a good fix would be "bribing" alliances to drop out for a "chance" of getting in is an idiot. It doesn't directly affect me as I wouldn't be entering either way, but this is just **** up. Oh, and whoever said it's "too late" to change stuff now, is an even bigger idiot. Fix it CCP.** ---------- "Whining gets you stuff, that is why humans got to the top of the food chain and all the other animals got nerfed."
5n4keyes Sacred Templars DeStInY.	Posted - 2008.01.24 14:48:00 - [228] Stevie rules. All i can say is, the teams are now as they are, no amount of shouting, screaming, or ranting is going to make and changes to this tourny, however, it will teach people to make sure on the sixth tourny to get those apps in fast! I guess its now down to just, may the best team win!
Noobie Noobsen	Posted - 2008.01.24 15:20:00 - [229] its too late too change it for this tournament. anything else would be more than an surprise. but for the future the tournament-team should resconsider some things about letting anybody in this tournament, just by the time they send the sign in. maybe some rl comparison could help in this special case... olympics are mentioned somewhere on page 2 or 3, football wm or em qualifications are nothing special and nobody is offended by this procedere. and by changing the rules and therefor lowering the costs for participants to win this thing (no pirate imps, factions cosmos etc stuff) only sps and tactics matters now. its obvious that much more allys signed in than before (i have no proof for this, but it seems so) and many allys, who usually are part of this, arent on the list. to qualify for the football wm you have to be part of the fifa and go through some qualifying games and the best are in (+ the host of the games, not actual champion). its only fair, that any ally can sign in for the tournament (all pay ccp the same --> they have equal rights). the pvpcs team should plan a schedule , theat can handle it, or let wildcat do the work, if they are to busy, to get their job done. p.s.: sorry for spelling, not native english speaker.
Ovek Gallente Cosmic Fusion When Fat Kids Attack	Posted - 2008.01.25 23:28:00 - [230] Originally by: Kagura Nikon Anyoen that says it woudl be interested in watchign fat kids versus green alliance instead of Agaisnt All Authorities versus Band of brothers, shoudl not even be allowed to dare to speak about pvp again.. ever.... Evil Thug swearign in russian is worth more than all those unknown alliances combined could do! NExt thing people will say they prefer to watch caracals blow than see Tyrrax blow a unique ship in a tournament ( I am sure his low reserves on unique ships will change someday :) ) Oh i apologise but some people tend to actually see real pvp'ers in a pvp tournament. I believe the old tournaments to not be FAIR if we weren't there then how is it people can call themselves tournament champions? Some people are so stupid.
Seishi Maru The Black Dawn Gang Mashen T'plak	Posted - 2008.01.26 12:11:00 - [231] Originally by: Ovek Originally by: Kagura Nikon Anyoen that says it woudl be interested in watchign fat kids versus green alliance instead of Agaisnt All Authorities versus Band of brothers, shoudl not even be allowed to dare to speak about pvp again.. ever.... Evil Thug swearign in russian is worth more than all those unknown alliances combined could do! NExt thing people will say they prefer to watch caracals blow than see Tyrrax blow a unique ship in a tournament ( I am sure his low reserves on unique ships will change someday :) ) Oh i apologise but some people tend to actually see real pvp'ers in a pvp tournament. I believe the old tournaments to not be FAIR if we weren't there then how is it people can call themselves tournament champions? Some people are so stupid. yeah and you are on top of list of those people. FAce it! The championship on the viwer point of view its about the fight between the big boys. The STUFF liek you are nothing more than same thign as the common pvp we see all over day live. No one cares if Fat Kids or Greens win a fight. But a lot of people woudl cheer with all heart in a AAA vs BOB fight for example.
Gutsani The Hoodie Mafia Cosa Nostra.	Posted - 2008.01.26 14:19:00 - [232] /me walks in with the gasoline ok guys, we gonna play it nice? no? /me puts the thread on fire flame on \o/ Sig Locked. Moderator abuse.
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.26 17:28:00 - [233] Originally by: Seishi Maru yeah and you are on top of list of those people. FAce it! The championship on the viwer point of view its about the fight between the big boys. The STUFF liek you are nothing more than same thign as the common pvp we see all over day live. No one cares if Fat Kids or Greens win a fight. But a lot of people woudl cheer with all heart in a AAA vs BOB fight for example. Exactly. Look at people's reaction to BoB getting destroyed by Thoraxes. Who is actually going to care if that happens to When Fat Kids Attack? Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Waywatcher 0utbreak	Posted - 2008.01.26 20:12:00 - [234] Who is in and who isnt is not really the point. The point is that too have sign-ups only cover 2 days and too require one certain person to be online in that small time period (alliance exec) is just ridiculous. No matter how much fuss or notice people are given it is still stupid too need one specific person to be online for an alliance that could have upto 5000 people in it. Every year "we" (the sub payers) dont get the service we deserve and these tourneys are always surrounded with bad planning and unprofesinalism. When will people be held responsible? never cos the "its our game,we make the rules" attitude surrounds everything.
LordVodka Earned In Blood	Posted - 2008.01.27 12:07:00 - [235] Shame alot of teams didn't make it in this tourny that wanted to be, but as a former alliance corporation with Divine order, we wish you luck good sirs.
Life Machine Caldari Damned Legion Mournival Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.27 18:24:00 - [236] sure, lots of people may like seeing big names vs big names, but not everyone that watches the tourney thinks like that. As I've said in another thread, although I thought that was a very exciting match, my favourite tourney match I can remember was Destiny vs some other alliance (I don't think it was a big one...but might've been). Maker7 was pilotting an Ishkur (again, I think, heh) vs a Megathron as they were the last pilots alive. the Frigate was actually WINNING the fight and just as he was breaking the tank of the megathron pilot, he went out of the arena and got popped. It may not be as easy to remember as "Wow...a team of thoraxes just beat bobs setup" but it was a much more entertaining fight.
Blue Broker	Posted - 2008.01.29 14:25:00 - [237] As bribing seems to be CCP approved way of doing stuff, I wonder how much ISK (game or real) is needed to bribe GMs running the show to swing the match in your favor? Hell, if It's ok to bribe every participant into dropping out, this should be too. And to quote CCP Atropos "it may take a few attempts" to get the right GM sooo GM Nova is running the show..gonna go consult the local shaman on the price tag. Of course, GMs and CCP stuff will refuse all such attempts, cos you know, only the lowly people like us would accept bribes and such.
Mang0o Caldari Cosmic Fusion When Fat Kids Attack	Posted - 2008.01.30 12:04:00 - [238] OMG, so damn many crying boys in here... I love you Mang0o, take a guess why -Eris
Malar HUN Corp. HUN Reloaded	Posted - 2008.01.30 16:26:00 - [239] Edited by: Malar on 30/01/2008 16:25:56 Originally by: Mang0o OMG, so damn many crying boys in here... Sad, fat boys posting one-line wisenesses are better, or what? --------------------------------------------- Comments in this post are mine and mine only
Mang0o Caldari Cosmic Fusion When Fat Kids Attack	Posted - 2008.01.30 18:50:00 - [240] Originally by: Malar Edited by: Malar on 30/01/2008 16:25:56 Originally by: Mang0o OMG, so damn many crying boys in here... Sad, fat boys posting one-line wisenesses are better, or what? well tbh the pepole that dident sign up cant be mad at anyone but them selfs.. so dont get it why thay trash talking CCP, not like thay gonna let 40other allinaces in becos pepole cry about it on forums.. do you? I love you Mang0o, take a guess why -Eris

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